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His predictions have drawn global attention, which the world is now living through. When he was just 13, he warned the world of a disruption that nobody could imagine, and that was the COVID-19 pandemic.
Indian astrologer Abigan, who predicted the COVID-19 pandemic, and from there on, he went on to predict the Russia-Ukraine war, the Hamas attack on Israel, and the recent conflict between India and Pakistan. And in this episode, we return with Abigan to look ahead from a critical turning point. A year that will redefine the course of humanity, not just for this decade, but for the rest of the century.
Since 2020, the world has transformed almost entirely. The world as we know it before that and after that is completely different, and conflict has escalated during this time frame. We are right in the middle of this decade, and we are not seeing it simmer down. Fear and anxiety lead to a chain reaction. Once there is fear of life, fear of losing livelihood, and uncertainty regarding the future, people tend to be a little bit more aggressive. With these wars mushrooming up everywhere, do you see an alignment into it becoming a bigger war, where actually, I might say, just World War III? Are we heading in that direction?
We're definitely heading in that direction. And I think people watching this also by now might have seen the way things are going. We have about five years until another massive conflict breaks out.
Who do you see emerging as the next global power? I mean, America has been like a superpower since quite a long period. Where do you see the relations of our country with our neighbors, you know, with China, with Sri Lanka, with Pakistan?
I think it's going to be, of course, negative during this time frame. But do you think for the people who invest in stock markets, etc., right now, we are at the point where gold, where silver, every investment instrument is at its lifetime peaks?
The assets which you mentioned at lifetime highs, yes, those are to watch out regarding because gold and silver, I have been talking about them growing rapidly since 2017 when I started to make predictions for Jyotisha. And in 2019, as...
Welcome, welcome again, Krishna.
Thanks for having me again.
So, before I ask, I would like to talk about the world in totality first.
Okay.
'Cause we're seeing so much of changes, and I want you to just give a backdrop of why we are seeing these changes right from the beginning of this decade. Right from when your first prediction came true, that was COVID, then there are wars, these regional conflicts continuously happening, and it seems no one else is bothered if two countries are going into a war. There is a very strange shift in the consciousness of people, as countries, as a collective consciousness.
Nobody seems to be bothered, and it's just escalating. And we are right in the middle of this decade, and we are not seeing it simmer down.
Absolutely.
So, where are we heading?
That's a very good question. In fact, since 2020, the world has transformed almost entirely. The world as we know it before that and after that is completely different. Just look at your own lives before 2020 and say, after 2020. There's been a complete transformation in the way we perceive the world, just after COVID, and then pre-COVID. It's two entirely different eras, and conflict has escalated during this time frame.
People's perceptions of borders have changed rapidly, and in history, this happens during certain intervals. Every couple of years, specifically around 20 years, the way we perceive things changes just a little bit. That's because of the great conjunction. So, in the Shastras, Varahamihira, for example, in the Brihat Samhita, has mentioned a theory. He says, "By Praana, whenever Guru and Shani come together along with certain other Grahas, they create fear and anxiety amongst the people." And fear and anxiety leads to a chain reaction. So, once there's fear, once there is fear of life, fear of losing livelihood, and uncertainty regarding the future, people tend to be a little bit more aggressive, and that escalates into a pattern, which is exactly what we're seeing now.
So, in 2019, when I noticed this combination first, three emotions gripped me. One was a certain sense of dread, obviously, that something absolutely uncertain is going to happen. To be very frank, even I did not know exactly what's going to happen. It was clear that there would be a mixture of things that would take place, but it wasn't clear exactly what's going to happen. The other emotion was also excitement, to an extent, because every time such a combination has taken place in the past, some amazing things have happened as well. We'll get to that next.
But yes, we are at the cusp of complete transformation. And to answer your question, why is it so?
If you look at history, there are certain intervals. As I mentioned, the closest parallel you can draw to 2020 is the year 1206, when Genghis Khan was brought together by his people as a leader. He brought together all the tribes of Mongolia, and he led them on a massive invasion from the eastern side of Asia all the way to the south part of Asia and West Asia, all the way to Europe. And that was one of the most devastating campaigns humanity has ever witnessed, for several reasons. Of course, the powers that he attacked refused to cede territory to him, so he continued on his rampage. And there were some very positive outcomes also because of it. Nature, ecology, and the development of the world took a completely different turn. Disease spread became faster, and human population experienced a sort of a great... it's a very sad thing, but it did experience a significant level down, which resulted in certain positive genetic changes as well. So, every such combination of this sort results in a very positive outcome as well as a very negative outcome. But the reason why it's special is that it all happens so fast.
And the other parallel that can come close to this is 1603, when the stock market was invented and when humanity first began to rapidly globalize. So, that happened just around 1603. The first stock exchange was opened in Amsterdam. So, we are seeing exactly that, a new pivotal moment for the world. And this time, it started in 2020. And the last time something similar to this took place, 1935, Italy invaded Ethiopia, for example. I think it did invade certain African countries around 1935, and that was the first major act of, you know, advancement globally in terms of geopolitical relations just getting destroyed. We're seeing something very similar now, and it will escalate from this point onwards. We have about five years until another massive conflict breaks out, and a few more years from now.
So, this decade, beginning 2020, which you compare to 1203 of Genghis Khan.
Was the trigger like Genghis Khan? There was the trigger.
It could be, yes. Definitely COVID could be equated to Genghis Khan in a way because he was such a monumental force in the transformation of the world, and COVID has been a monumental force as well. The way we perceive everything has changed.
Yes, I understand one thing. You know, there changed the consciousness of everyone. Everybody realized how fragile life is.
True.
You saw deaths left, right, and center. But that consciousness is what you're saying is attracting all these events which are taking place?
Absolutely. Absolutely. And global borders, as such, cannot remain the same for a very long period of time. It is a fallacy that we think that geopolitical boundaries must remain the same. No one, including the United Nations or the United States, can help maintain that sort of status quo. In fact, over a period of time, they tend to act against it.
Status quo is only possible to maintain during periods of peace, and we are not currently in a period of peace. And throughout history, borders have constantly been changing. Very few countries have remained the same as they were. Very few. And whatever changes have taken place have been violent. Very few have been peaceful. So, it's natural. We have over 8 billion humans on Earth. We have a couple of religions which are antagonistic to one another, which have their own psychological fallacies that are imprinted into children the moment they're born. And we have 8 billion humans, at the end of the day. So, conflict is almost guaranteed. What we don't know is when and where. And that's what I'm trying to research on now: when, where, and how exactly is this going to go about?
Okay, so beginning 2020, and from there on, we've seen so many conflicts happen in different regions. So many countries getting involved. And other countries are not being directly affected, but they're not even getting involved in those things. So, at this point of time, you know, and we've just seen what America has done with Venezuela, and again, everyone is quiet, although they're raising an alarm, but really not the way it should be done.
Mhm.
So, do you think this will go on? So, just tell me right from here, let's say 2026. Let's see what do you say about 2026 for the world politics, the geopolitical situation?
Yes. Um, I was definitely expecting a few new conflicts to come about. So, Venezuela was just a small event. Possibly less than 40 people died, those military servicemen. Civilian casualties were extremely limited. I don't think there was even one. I might be wrong. But yes, this is probably not the conflict that was supposed to happen in 2026. We're supposed to see something bigger. This is not the only one, and there's going to be an expansion because steadily from 1935, year on year, there were new global conflicts that picked up pace. So, I expect something to happen once more in 2026. In the Indian subcontinent, there can be some serious trouble, one around March, but I don't think it's going to be too significant. After June, again, there's going to be an escalation because we are getting into a new period now, as Bharat itself, and the whole Indian subcontinent for that matter. So, yes, new problems will begin. They will escalate because we are in a new time frame that is calling for violence, and it's just going to happen. There's not much that can be done to prevent it. So, globally, it is going to happen. It's going to... This will continue.
This will continue. This will continue.
I'll come to India later. But let's say globally, that war you see in Russia and Ukraine, will it end in the near future? It's already been three and a half years.
Unfortunately, no. Not in its entirety. There can be an armistice, as I mentioned in the... when I was invited to Russia to speak about it as well. They asked me specific questions on when it would end. And last three years, ever since I have been giving predictions about the war, I mentioned that ending doesn't seem very likely. There's going to be a temporary sort of temporary armistice somewhere around 2028, 2027 as well, but the fighting will continue on other fronts of the war. So, it's not going to be a total armistice. It's an extremely complex issue, and I would be very surprised if it becomes peaceful.
And do you see more nations getting involved? Not directly in that conflict, but on the southeastern, sorry, on the eastern side of Asia, the South China Sea?
That's where I see the possibility of nations actually getting involved. That region. Yes, the eastern...
Amongst themselves?
With the involvement of external powers, that's more likely. So, the focus point is somehow shifting from Europe to the eastern side of Asia because prosperity is shifting there. And with prosperity comes some conflict. But the most devastating parts of the conflict is not going to be in that direction. It's just going to be conflicts, but not as devastating in the eastern part of Asia.
With these wars mushrooming up everywhere, do you see an alignment into it becoming a bigger war, where actually, I might say, just World War III? Are we heading in that direction?
We're definitely heading in that direction. I think people watching this also by now might have seen the way things are going. I had talked about this in 2020 as well, 2021 as well, saying that the world is actually approaching in that direction, and it's very much likely to happen. Even some other Jyotishis that I know personally have also felt the same from a very long time, not just now. Now, of course, everyone can see it happening. We already have three conflict zones in the world. So, the most logical thing would be that this would expand into a larger conflict.
So, in 2020, when we noticed this combination first, it was very weird the way the Grahas are coming together. It's not something that happens every decade or so. It's something that happens once in 8 centuries or so. So, obviously, they're going to be massive changes. The maps we saw in 1206, when the world was fragmented into different parts, despite the smaller population of humans at the time, there were so many conflicts, and such a large percentage of human life was lost. This time, fortunately, we're not going to see that large a percentage of the population getting destroyed, as some people fear, which is why I'm talking about this. Some people fear that a lot of people are going to die.
And yes, people will die, but I don't think it's going to be at such a scale as it was in World War II, for example. It's not going to be that.
When does the entire school of astrology actually predict when do we see bigger wars, or let's say, let's not name it World War II. It sounds very big.
Yes. Yes. But would you say it'll be very big?
It would be large enough, but not at the scale of World War II. The amount of lives that were lost in World War II...
But a lot of countries will be involved, and there'll be two sides. Not two sides, maybe more sides, which is why it's going to be more protracted and not very quick. And the outcomes are going to be very different for each place. And whatever it is, prosperity would technically move further east, towards the eastern side of Asia, and even to India, this, and even Africa. So, these are going to be the benefactors of such a situation. And yes, it's going to be a big thing, but it's not going to be as concerted as World War II. It's going to be in different fronts, not as concerted. It's not like a power, a single power simply summons countries together and goes to war. Nothing like that.
Okay. So, a lot of countries will be involved in their own regions, or something? A fragmented kind of a thing?
Very fragmented.
Very fragmented. But this will happen, you think, before 2030? It seems like...
There is one, there are two time frames we are looking at and studying currently. Even I'm studying these two periods to see which one of them is more likely. One begins in 2029, ends 2032, since there is again an agglomeration of Grahas coming together. And there's another such time frame that's just after 2035 and going into 2039, specifically 2039. So, my understanding of this is that my analysis is that we're going to see it in two stages. Stage one, which will happen somewhere around 2029 to 2032, and it's going to be a little bit more fragmented. And stage two is going to be a bit more concerted, but not as much as World War II, and that's going to be around 2039, sorry, 2039 to 2041, approximately. So, that there we have another great conjunction of Guru and Shani, very similar to the one that we had in 1943. And very similar to the one we had in 1941, sorry. So, 1941, there was a major great conjunction, a triple great conjunction. So, Guru and Shani came together from the Earth's perspective, not once, not twice, but thrice. So, something like that, but not completely similar, is happening in 2040. So, yes, we can expect something around that time.
Okay. So, when you say you can already see the planets heading conjoined towards, you know, a certain event which will take place, and it talks about a lot of fear, a lot of devastation of human life, etc. But also, if I see karmically, right now, what every country is doing, the maximum amount of expenditure is going in arms and ammunitions. Absolutely. In military. In military power. And wherever the energy goes, it has to manifest in some way. Can manifest. You know, so that's like, so this is planetary? That planets are making the consciousness like this, or the consciousness is affecting the planets? I just want to know this.
That's a very good question. In fact, it is the combinations of the Grahas that have an impact on the way humans are thinking. However, the previous actions of these societies, of human, of the whole human population as a whole, has impacted their karma. So, they've been collecting this karma, and it has reached a level at which now the effect needs to be dispersed. And the dispersing of those effects happens through the Grahas. But technically, it's just supposed to happen. It's basically a cycle, an astrological cycle, and the astrological cycle impacts an economic cycle, as you mentioned. So, when the economies of countries grow rapidly and some of them reach a saturation point, at that point, unfortunately, most human beings tend to move their attention towards security, and some of that spills over to defense, and what they call defense sometimes moves into insecurity for other countries, which results in conflict. So, that cycle, we've seen happening over the last 20 years silently, and now it's suddenly exploded after 2020. You would see that Germany's budget has increased. Japan is... Every country's budget is increasing. You know? Japan is looking to... looking to abolish Article 9 of their constitution very soon. I had discussed this in 2022 as well, once, that there's a very strong possibility of Japan becoming more militarized very soon. And now they have already elected a government that's in favor of this happening, rightfully so from their perspective. And every country is preparing for something like this, and it's most definitely going to happen. I don't see a world...
Attracting it? Our consciousness will attract this?
Absolutely. One time wherein humanity collectively prevented such a situation was in the around 1980s. Whatever it was, they did a phenomenal job of preventing it. I would say astrologically, the time frame was more peaceful because I've been talking about another cycle as well. Some of our viewers might not have heard me, but very rarely, I've spoken about it. It's called the Samvatsara cycle. It's a 60-year cycle, and it's made up of 20-year parts, like three parts. And there was one such cycle, let me give an example, between 1914 and 1974, which was really horrific. We had five massive conflicts. The use of some of the most horrible weapons, absolute disregard for human rights. The whole concept of human rights seemed like it didn't even exist during this time frame, and it just came about later. And just after 1975, whatever humanity did for those 60 years has been rather very stabilizing. We hear bad news, obviously, on a day-to-day basis, but whatever it was, it was lesser than that.
Yeah. It's been more prosperous.
It's been more prosperous, and we prevented the Cold War between the USSR and the US escalating. The two nations, and the world did a phenomenal job at that. The chances of it happening were very high. Unfortunately, now the planetary cycles seem to be not in favor of that. However, I am hoping, and I do believe, and my analysis points towards the possibility of being able to prevent another all-out situation like that in this decade. I am very confident that humanity will not escalate into a nuclear war and get into that kind of trouble. Because we are still in that peaceful 60-year period, which is going to end in 2033. Which is why I feel the second leg of this conflict is going to be worse. The first leg of this conflict, which is towards the end of this decade, might not be as worse.
That's my humble opinion.
Okay. And who do you see emerging as the next global power? I mean, America has been like a superpower since quite...
Yes.
...a long period. But now we see that might dissolving slightly, and other people are really trying to catch the rope from there, you know? China is emerging. True. Russia is also standing its own feet, although economically they might not be so strong. Do you see a shift in the global power?
I do see. I do see. In fact, that's also related that the planetary... America was like a superpower for how many years, you would say?
It has been an extension of the Western superpowers.
Yes. And there's a cycle for that again.
But they were always in alliance. They were always in alliance.
So, that 400-year cycle of prosperity on of of say the Europeans technically is supposed to end just around 2020. That's exactly when those 400 years have ended. Which means since 2020, there has been a very strong reduction in the power of the Western economies, and they can, and the populations there are feeling it. First of all, there is a saturation of wealth, massive inequality is increasing. And on the other hand side, some of the most mismanaged countries on the East have rapidly turned to better countries. For example, in Europe, you can see the transition. Some of the countries that were considered absolutely horrible for being able to live peacefully are now becoming attractive locations. For example, Poland versus the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom, Great Britain, for a lot of time was being recognized as one of the best countries to live in. And now it's shifted, and Polish people used to go and live in the UK. Now it's changing. Some of the Britishers are trying to live in Poland, for example. So, we're seeing this eastward shift even within Europe because from an astrological standpoint, Europe technically falls in two astrological zones. If you just take the... take the world like the globe and superimpose the zodiac on the globe, which is what happens all the time naturally. If you superimpose it at an epochal moment, you would see that Europe is divided into two parts. And the eastern part technically did not experience any prosperity during the rapid rise of the Western powers. That entire period, 1603 to 2020, for example, Eastern Europe did not experience much prosperity. Russia was never able to experience its period of its golden time. Probably there's only one or two years that can be pointed out as a golden period for Russia, whereas you can point out an entire century for the other powers. And that's coming to an end. And just around 2020, we're going to see the power move this way. So, Russia obviously is going to be doing well. At the start of the war as well, I had mentioned in my videos that the sanctions that the other countries are placing on Russia are not going to have such an impact as it might have because they were expecting Russia's economy to kind of crumble and the leadership to get overthrown. None of that has happened, and I don't think it will happen. Even if there is a... I expect a leadership change sometime around 2027, okay, for Russia, but I still do not... In fact, even this year, there's a negative period for their president. So, even if there is a change, it will not lead to destruction in Russia. In fact, Russia is going to grow rapidly over the next couple of years, unfortunately, through war. And we have seen that many societies, war has been a catalyst to prosperity, and war has been a structuring force in many societies. That's the unfortunate reality of humanity. War leads to structure in societies if managed properly, and a society before war versus after war, there's a huge difference, and most of the time it's positive. The long-term effect is positive.
The long-term effect, the final outcome of that thing. Okay. And what about China as a country? It's emerged, specifically after COVID, it's come in the prominence. It's the factory of the world today.
Very true. And will it become more powerful?
Absolutely. Because it's on the eastern side, and this... The level of growth year on year is going to minimize from this point onwards. It's not going to be the same level, obviously, because of the humongous size. But it'll be able to cement its growth and expand its influence now because the capital has to go somewhere, and China will be able to deploy it very well. There will be an internal strife within China, obviously, because when the US was rising as a power, even the US experienced a difference in ideologies, and there was a civil war. China has already seen round one of that civil war, okay, already done in late 1950s to early 60s, sorry, around 1949. It's already experienced one round of that, and another round they crushed in around the 1960s. So, a third round of that is likely, but this will only help the country further. It will not destroy the country. And since China is one, the second most populous country in the world, the astrological rules apply slightly differently here, since we're talking about a huge number of population. So, and ultimately, a country is just a group of people, and how they decide to take things forward. So, if you look at the massive number of people there, they follow a slightly different cycle. This is since time immemorial, ever since China was founded as a country, as an empire, throughout its different cycles of empires. It follows the Jupiter-Saturn cycle very closely, and the ancient Chinese observed this, and they wrote about this. And some of the Chinese astrological texts are really good because they're very precise about these combinations, and they have mentioned that whenever such a Jupiter-Saturn combination comes about, the country experiences upheaval. So, in 2040, I expect another round of upheaval. But whatever happens, China will still be, if not number two, probably if not number one, probably definitely number two for an extended period of time. People who expect China to collapse, I think, are going to be quite wrong on this. That's my humble opinion. I... I can be wrong as well. But as far as my analysis goes, I don't see China collapsing as others seem to claim, and I expect it to grow rapidly, cement its influence. And similarly, I see something for India happening, but yeah, we'll come to that.
So, we just spoke about that how mass consciousness, we, every country is spending towards arms and ammunitions and military power, we're bound to get into a war, right? And at the same time, every country is also exploiting all natural resources. We have no regard for Mother Nature or Earth. With these wars happening, continuous bombardment, do we, obviously that's also consciousness, and the universe has to respond to it. Do we also see some kind of global natural calamities happening in this period, say this decade or next decade?
Yes, this particular decade, there will be some really problematic ones. This time, I'm also analyzing the possibility of a massive volcanic eruption. But I don't think it'll happen now. This is mostly like 40 years down the line or something. But just tracking it because the kind of volcanic eruption I'm talking about is not something ordinary. It's something to the scale of what we saw around 1883. I think there was an explosion of the Krakatoa volcano, which resulted in the Northern Hemisphere, I believe, getting blacked out completely.
Okay.
And for a lot of time, nothing was growing there, and there was a famine because of it as well. So, we're looking at something at that scale. It's going to be temporary, but I'm identifying when it could happen. There's one possibility that it could happen around 2040. But apart from that, other natural calamities because of human actions and because of the karmic effect of human actions on nature, yes, that's very much likely. It will happen ultimately. We are also part of nature. As human beings, the actions we do are just part of the whole process. So, in case those actions, like not every exploitation of natural resources is very harmful to nature in the longer run, but some types are. And the countries that engage in that type of, say, creating calamities as such, especially if they do something horrible with nuclear weapons, then it will have a negative karmic impact for sure. And the US has already collected a significant amount of that. Every superpower, over the course of its governance over the world, collects a significant amount of negative karma by virtue of being the single largest power in the world. Rome did it. The Chinese empires did it. They killed their own people on large scales, like scales that would terrify us even today. Like over a million people would die in every single rebellion in China, and they were just slaughtering each other. So, they regularly experience the effect of their actions. When India was the superpower in the world for several centuries together, we were rather peaceful. But in between, the kind of wars we have had in between our own states in those eras of prosperity have been absolutely terrifying. And similarly, the US has already accumulated its own level of karma, and it is going to experience it maybe about 20 or 30 years from now, specifically 20 years from now.
So, before we come to India and the background of all the major global events.
Yes.
Okay. What do you see the center of America being politically? I'm talking about, you know, now it's right now it's being headed by Donald Trump.
Yes.
And do you see him finishing his entire term in 2024?
Um, before the election, I was asked this exact same question, and at that time, it was very conflicting astrological signals. Obviously, we don't have the birth details of the candidates, and the candidates themselves. We were not sure if they would be the ultimate candidates because there was so much uncertainty. But increasingly, it was clear that when I looked at the combinations in August, in an interview, I mentioned that the Republican party is most likely to come to power.
Yes.
Donald Trump would be most likely president. This time, in 2028, there is a very unique combination, even before that, in 2027 itself, that shows political unrest in the US for probably the first time in several decades. I would be surprised if it does not take place, but there's a very strong likelihood of that happening. And this would not completely unseat the US from its position. The US is going to continue to be a significant power in the world, influence. Yes. Major massive influence over the next 20 years easily, at least, and after which there will be a decline. Even now, there will be a decline, but the rate of decline is going to increase after 2033, specifically 2033.
For America?
For the US.
For the US. The rate of decline is going to increase. The rate of decline is currently probably, say, 1% in terms of global influence every year, 1 or 2%. After 2033, it's going to be about 3, 4, or even 5% every year in terms of its decline because the US dollar itself is going to be affected around 2033. That's my analysis. And nothing against the US personally, but that's how I feel about it.
So, if US declines, and you think China will never get the top slot in terms of power and influence, but still, do you see any other country taking the top?
It will get the top slot.
It will get the top slot.
Yes. It has been at the top for a few times in history. And obviously, it's the second most populous country in the world. So, it will get a top slot, and very soon, about 20 years after that, which is around 2050 and 60, India will also get the top slot.
Around 2050 and 60?
2050 and...
20 to 30 years from...
Yeah, yeah. India will also get the top slot temporarily, and then again China, and again India. I think that duopoly will continue for some time.
Okay.
It's been like this for quite some time. So, when I say this, sometimes people find it very strange, considering the present state of our country. They're like, how is this going to happen? Top slot is like very difficult to imagine. But I think it's possible. But that's going to be very temporary. That too, it's going to be in terms of GDP, um, based on purchasing power. The actual strength, the superpower kind of strength, is probably going to take 120 years from now. That's a longer period away. And as I mentioned earlier, I think I missed the question you asked about who is going to lead the US next. To be very frank, I haven't analyzed yet.
You haven't?
I need to do it, but I will definitely try to give my analysis for this.
And China, what about China? Say, 10 years from now.
I expect a change in leadership around 2029 approximately. And also, there's one more similar time frame around 2040. These two periods can be troublesome for China. 2040 specifically looks...
2040?
Yeah, 2040 specifically doesn't look too good for the political stability of the country. But an interesting thing is that despite political instability, China's economy somehow would continue to function. That's a unique feature of China. Despite political instability, they somehow maintain economic... They're able to segregate politics, and that's really nice. And they've done this during several empires, which is... They never collapsed as a civilization. They never fully collapsed. They've been ruled by other powers like Mongolia and Japan for a few times, and bullied by Russia a few times, but they've never been subjugated to the level that certain other parts of the world have been. So, I expect them to continue.
So, next 10 years, you see rough. It'll be a rough ride for the entire world. And...
It is going to be a rough ride. It's going to be very different because every year, obviously, has some or the other conflict. But there are levels to this. It's not uniform. Every year, certain periods are very different from the others. And that's why this period is going to be different. The scale, the level, everything is changing. So, I expect it to be very hard.
So, we've spoken about the top three countries in the world, and together now, how do you see India's destiny unfolding in these periods, in the next decade from now?
So, I would say that during the downtime for each civilization, for each geography, because Jyotisha is more tied to geographies than to races of people. Of course, Jyotisha has an impact on race and genetics as well, but it primarily has an impact on geography.
So, only geography or time also?
Geography and time in close correlation. When we speak about which country will prosper, for example, if the question is which country will prosper, it's more connected to the geography itself, in the sense that the geographical cross-sections of the world are impacted by Jyotisha. So, for example, the same type of people, the same time frame of prosperity, but two different outcomes just because of geography. Geography. So, you can see that in, for example, Germany and the eastern and western block during the time frame of prosperity, the eastern side of Germany unfortunately experienced severe poverty just after World War II. There was a Berlin Wall, and then influenced by Soviet policies and being extracted and living like very pathetic conditions compared to the western part, which was very different. So, you can see that geographical difference came in there. So, Jyotisha is more linked to the geographical side of things more than just countries as such, because countries might seem very real to us, but at the end of the day, they are abstract ideas, and those ideas are what we foster for good or bad reasons, depending on what the motive of the people who rule it are. But technically, it's linked to geography.
So, having said that, during... So, every single geography experiences prosperity and then rapid decline, depending on the cycle it is within. For example, Europe experienced a really terrifying period between about 1206 and 1600. You'd see absolutely chaotic wars, and the Black Death occurred at the same time frame. 25 to 30% of the European population was decimated.
Decimated entirely. And not only that, it also experienced... It was one of the most unhygienic places in the world. And it was chronicled. Even Europeans joked about it themselves. It was so unhygienic. The streets, the people had an abject lack of cleanliness. And many streets in France were just sewage lines, basically, nothing else. They used to just empty human waste onto the main roads, right? Unfortunately, the tables have turned now. In our country, we see these kind of horrible things happening, abject lack of hygiene. That's a very significant marker, and I'll come to that very soon, of society in general. So, at that time, our scriptures, our Rishis of that time, like the medieval periods, they had mentioned that we should stay a distance away from the Yanas, not the Yanas, the Machas, as well as those from Europe. And they used to... they used to discriminate with them, obviously, for medical reasons, to avoid getting...
Hygiene conditions?
Hygiene conditions, right. So, that was the worst situation of Europe. But then their Dashas, from a larger scale, changed in 1603, and you can see the amount of transformation they experienced at that point. Of course, there were some expeditions they did even before that, but all of them were really messy and chaotic. Before 1603, the colonial expeditions, after 1603, were phenomenally successful. The rates of success, if you just look at it statistically, that should be very difficult to accomplish what they did, but they were able to do it across the world. Of course, we lament that they were able to do it, but we have to give it to them. They were able to step out of their homes, out of the comfort zone, and go and conquer the world. So, they did that, and the thing that supported them there was the planetary combinations that were in favor, and now that's ending in 2020. That's mentioned.
And now in 2020, we're seeing, and when a country declines, it's somewhat like, and especially if it has a very large population, it's somewhat like a spring that's held down by a pressure. So, there's pressure building up there. You can think of it that way. And exactly in 2020, that spring is now uncoiled. So, there's some sort of energy that's being released, and many of these countries that have been oppressed and suppressed over the last, say, four centuries are suddenly going to boom. And one of them is India. China already has seen its Dasha a little bit earlier, because China's collapse also took place a little bit earlier than India. India was in a much better position in the 1960s compared to China. China was just absolutely horrible in the 1960s. So, their collapse began earlier, and hence their prosperity also begins earlier. Our collapse began slightly later, and our prosperity also begins slightly later. Which means that right now, we should see that uncoiling, which will happen, and it's already happening in 2020. That uncoiling has already happened. There has been this rapid release of economic energy in the country, and that's going to translate into better living standards, better civic sense, better cleanliness, hygiene, and social ramifications for the country. It's going to be really good.
How long does this period last? If you say it began in 2020.
Yes. How long will this period last for, let's say, the good times for India?
Absolutely. So, for that prosperity to trickle down to society in the way it's trickled down in Europe, with generally good...
For 400 years?
Yes. Exactly. But Europe started to see a good level of, you know, positive, good standard of life somewhere around the 1800s. It started to see that.
So, it took 200 years.
Absolutely. So, 200 years. So, we would see that level of prosperity per person maybe in 120 years. But the good thing is, humanity as a whole is seeing an exponential rise. Yes.
The average European's life at their civilizational peak, astrologically, is still worse than the average European's life today.
If you compare the two eras.
Yes. At that time.
Yes. But if you compare them to the world at that point of time, they were absolutely on the top.
So, humanity itself has grown exponentially during this time frame. Hence, the time taken to experience per person prosperity to a large extent is lesser now. Which means that India is going to see per person prosperity rapidly rising from where it is now, which is pittance at the moment. That's an abjectly problematic condition. Lifting this is an extremely difficult job. But along with good leadership, I think we have a good astrological time as well now, and that's going to help this per person prosperity aspect come up. And I believe that's going to happen. I'm 100% sure about this. I've been talking about this for quite some...
No, I hope that happens because, yes, India, and as you said, you know, the entire prosperity graph is shifting towards the East now. That's correct. And we lie exactly there. And yes, as a country, as an economy, as a civilization, we have been suppressed for quite some time now.
Yes.
And I also believe, you know, when we compare it to 400 years of the Europe time from...
Yes.
From 1200 to...
From 1206 to about 1603 was very bad. Then 1603 to 2000.
2000? Okay. In which they took 200 years to reach the peak level.
Peak level.
But right now, if I say, you know, at that point of time, one building would take 10 years to make. Today, it takes one year to make. Absolutely. So, a rapid rate of increase would be far...
The rate of increase would be faster. But that also means our peak is going to be a lot more better.
Yes. Obviously, humanity is actually growing at...
The peak that we witnessed is going to be better than the peak that the Europeans preceding us witnessed. And the peak that they witnessed was obviously better than the peak that we witnessed before them.
So, there's a kind of exponential increase. There are very few moments in history wherein there's an exponential decrease for the whole of humanity. And such a moment would also come about somewhere in the future. I'm still calculating exactly when. But such a moment when humanity itself, as a whole, dips down, that's also likely because that has happened a few times in the past.
It will always happen if the entire world goes into a war, you know, killing people left, right, and center, total disregard for humanity. That is like a low point. In today's day and age, I can only see that as a low point. But as you said, you know, you were mentioning something about the hygiene thing, and that affects the prosperity of a country.
So, when you talk about the golden time of India, and we see India, I mean, we are very spiritual people. This is the land of spirituality. But from the hygiene point of view, today, really, as a consciousness of this country?
Yes.
We disregard hygiene even in our temples, roads, everywhere, except for our houses. Only few people care. Nobody cares outside your boundaries, you know. So, does that also affect the country in totality?
Massively, massively. Bharat, as a whole, from a very long time, has emphasized cleanliness. In our, in our period of prosperity, and when we were literally the only important country in the world, Bharat, the only important subcontinent in the world, was Bharat. This was for at least 2,000 years of our history. And during this entire time frame, we had emphasized cleanliness. People who visited...
Our country from different parts of the world marveled at our social trust, the level of trust between people. That's also a very important metric. Hygiene, trust, civic sense. People marveled at that when they saw Indians. The doors were being left open. People used to conduct business freely. And when there's trust, growth is really fast.
Now, for example, if you look at Europe or probably Australasia today, or if you look at now gradually in China, you'd see that the level of trust between two people in a transaction is high. And it takes time to develop that, and we are currently at the lowest point of our civilization. We are at the tipping point. Uh, the lowest point was somewhere around 1870s to 1970 approximately, in the colonial, that the colonial period plus the massive, the massive, you know, the tearing up of the two countries and the famines, the number of famines we experienced in Bengal, in Odisha, really horrible situations for our country, and then the partition. So we've seen that lowest of the low period. And now we're emerging from that. And during this emerging time frame, obviously, even from an astrological angle, it's still a very hard period. You're literally fighting against the odds. But now those negative combinations are reducing for the country gradually as time passes, especially starting 2020. Capital infusion is coming in. With that, the level of trust will gradually improve.
And with that, uh, as it trickles down to the rest of society, there's something, um, that we commonly know as, um, as as the pyramid of needs. And if you look at it that way, uh, most of most of the population in our country is basically struggling for basic necessities. Yes. And the bottom mass hierarchy of needs. Hierarchy of needs. Exactly. I forgot the term for that. And, yeah, mass hierarchy of needs is a really nice way to, still struggling at the physiological level. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, so most of the Indians are at that level, and hence it's difficult for our country to rapidly grow during this time frame. We just need some time. And the moment we move to the next level, I think that the growth will really, it'll be really good. It'll be really good, and people aren't seeing it. And that's, that's just like investments, right? Just like investing into a stock, for example, people don't see the growth from day one. Uh, but it's happening in the background, and I am 100% sure that our, that our fellow bhatias are working really hard towards this. There are millions upon millions of people who are working towards this today, and I meet a few of these people on a daily basis who are passionate about the country. The number of such people who are passionate about their country in the West is declining, and we are, it's increasing here, and that's a really good sign. Uh, if you go to universities in the West with students and the youth there, the number of people there who are really interested in the future of their country is declining rapidly, and, uh, and we can see that we will see the effect of that very soon. In India, it's the opposite. And of course, there are going to be massive challenges, because every time a country has progressed, there has been a civil war. China experienced two civil wars. We experienced one partition, which is the equivalent of civil war, but it's not done yet. It's not done yet. It's not done yet. That's the worst part, which is coming up. Uh, because every such superpower has to experience a massive period of political violence. We have seen one round of that. There's another round, but it'll be way lesser than past.
Is it like you're talking from the point of view of history, or it's like a dictate that whenever there is a big change, there will be a shift? There will be disagreements. Yeah. As capital comes in, like rapid capital, this happens on smaller scales. If you, but it's happening now. India. I see. I mean, haven't we surpassed that stage, or you think it? I think it's not yet done. It's not yet done. It's building up, but whatever happens, it's going to be painful but good for the country in the long run. Whatever happens, for example, this happens in families also when wealth comes in, there is going to be some fractures. In companies, startup founders tend to diverge just after funding, and similarly, countries. The moment you see prosperity coming in, there's disagreement on how that prosperity should be utilized, and that is going to happen around 2040 for India. Just around 200, and just after that disagreement, it will not be as bad as the partition. So I definitely don't want anyone to be scared about this, because some people might get scared to the bone, because that was a very traumatic event, partition. So nothing like that, but there will be something in between. And after 2040, when that disagreement is sorted out, the rate of growth would be so massive, it would be so massive, and year on year, there'll be transformation.
Now, after listening to this, you step out on the streets and you walk around, it might feel very, very strange, because what we're speaking about here is amazing civilizational advancement. And when you step out in the streets, you might feel, what did I just listen to? I feel that even when I go out today, I will keep asking myself this question, will it happen? Will it really happen? And I do have that doubt. I'm really not hallucinating here. But no matter what we're experiencing now, based on what I can see from the astrological cycles, I'm personally confident that it's possible. Because, for example, even China, in its lowest point of its astrological cycle, was really, really bad hygiene-wise and power-wise, projecting power. It was called the Century of Humiliation. You can look it up on the internet. You can study about it. It was the worst period for China, and they have seen many rounds of this. In fact, that's the most surprising part. People don't read much about them. But if you read Chinese history, the number of rebellions and the number of horrible situations they've experienced, their success didn't come in one day. It took time, and we just haven't seen that. We're just seeing the effects of it now, and they're still not done. They're going to experience some more because they work really hard towards this, and what they are experiencing now is just 50% of what they're supposed to experience. There's a lot more coming. And we also are working really hard now as a country. Our youth is working hard. The previous generations have worked really hard. Of course, a lot of people have betrayed the country, but a lot more are now working towards the country's growth. So, this will happen.
Yeah. Where do you see the relations of our country with our neighbors, you know, with China, with Sri Lanka, with Pakistan? I think it's going to be, of course, negative during this time frame. Again, it'll still be negative. It's been negative such a long time. Absolutely. It will continue. No planetary realignment helps us too. But why? No. With China, it's going to be better, though. This is the most strange thing. Uh, this I mentioned even in 2020, that with China, India's relations. This was just after the Galwan clashes, when everyone was like so damn angry at China, and even personally, we all were angry at China for whatever happened, and we collectively responded. We banned their social media for whatever reason, and I think that was a great decision. But in that exact moment, I mentioned that China and India, two civilizations, they're more likely to come together than be separated apart, purely out of economic interest. At best, in my words, last time when I spoke about this, at best, it's going to be a really good bonhomie between the two countries, and at worst, it's just going to be economic tussles and proxy conflicts, which has been happening so far. So I don't expect it to be a full-blown war between the two countries. I'll be very surprised. Not even war, but not major conflicts. No. No. And in fact, the cooperation is going to increase over the next two decades, and that will really help both the countries. It's going to be symbiotic. However, with Bangladesh and Pakistan, it's going to get worse over the next 20 years. But the good thing here is, as I mentioned, astrology is linked to geography. It's not linked to our imaginary borders that we draw. Again, borders are imaginary, but it's not, it's not linked to just because you draw a border, the graphs don't influence that part differently. Uh, it's going to influence based on geography for the most part. And the country, of course, when you start the country, the date, the time that has an influence, but still geography has an influence. And many parts of Pakistan come under the same geography as either the Middle East or India. So it is supposed to experience some change, some positive change. Similarly, Bangladesh as well is in the heart of it's like it's like the eastern wing of the Indian subcontinent. It's essentially part. So it's supposed to experience positive changes. I cannot say as an astrologer that only this section of India is going to experience that prosperity. The entire region will experience. But the interesting thing here is that currently, these two countries are adhering to very radical and problematic ideologies that are not in favor of their progress. It's going to be harming them. The good thing is that the next generation is going to be less and less supportive of radical Islam, and the generation after that is going to be even less supportive of radical Islam. So once that happens and people kind of have a civilizational shift, and when they see India's growth rapidly advancing, currently they look at India as a threat, but not yet as an example to follow. Some people do, but we're not yet an example for others to follow. We're not yet a good example. We'll become a good example in about 20 years, and the generations of children that will come up in these two countries will realize the follies of their previous generations and they will correct it. I'm pretty much sure about that.
So the relations, you said they're not going to remain good. But what we're speaking right now, two generations later, it's going to be great. It's going to start getting very good. Uh, when I say two generations later, I would say around 2045 approximately. The first round of these two countries kind of changing is possible. Bangladesh first, and in Pakistan, some of the more eastern sides of Pakistan would also start to blend in with Indian culture. Indian philosophy would start to go there. Our philosophy has been exported to so many countries in the world, our spiritual culture. It's not, it's not entering the heads of our neighbors. It will happen very soon. We just have to be better examples as human beings. Yes. It will happen, and I'm quite sure of this. Uh, my maternal ancestry comes from Sindh, and I've spoken to Pakistani Hindus there. Even now, recently, I have spoken to Bangladeshi Hindus. I have even spoken to Pakistani Muslims a few times and Bangladeshi Muslims, and the ones I have spoken to, at least do know deep down, and even outside, they do say that their countries are an absolute mess. It's a chaos, and they really want to change. Many of them want to change. Many of them are still under delusion. And I believe that the next two generations will make a change. Yeah. If you see awareness precedes change, and civil war precedes that awareness. These countries are already witnessing all those civil wars. So probably yes, it will happen, including Nepal and all our neighbors. They are going through this. And you know, and Nepal is going to see good prosperity a bit sooner than the other two neighbors. So I think they're going to see a very good prosperity. Unfortunately, the neighbors that we have, Pakistan and Bangladesh, they're basically they have unnecessarily attached themselves to a radical Arabic ideology that has no place in the Indian subcontinent. Our thinking is not like that. The whole ideology they are following was started sometime in the 7th century by a warlord. So following that today in the 21st century is completely unnecessary, and it's not part of our culture. The Bengali culture, if you think of it, is intellectual, it's spiritual, and it's not radical as such, and I think that change is coming up soon.
Yeah. So yes. This one last question. When we talk about the prosperity of our country, and a lot of people are interested in that, especially Indians with the booming stock market. So I want to know, you know, right now we are at the point where gold, where silver, every investment instrument is at the lifetime peaks. Yes. You know. Yes. And obviously, whatever goes high has to come down. That's one of the spiritual or, you know, law of creations, the law of duality. Yes. But do you think for the people who invest in stock markets etc. right now, going forward, and you are saying that we will see certain conflicts, and when you talk about, yes, in the future, if you talk about, we give the name World War II, we'll have lots of regional conflicts, every country will be involved. And probably I would say then for us, we see that involvement with our neighbors. What about our economy and in terms of the financial markets? I think our economy will be continuing to grow rapidly, rapidly, rapidly, quite rapidly. The assets which you mentioned at lifetime highs, yes, those are to watch out regarding because gold and silver, I have been talking about them growing rapidly since 2017 when I started to make predictions for Jotusa, and in 2019 as well. So that was very clear because the cycles were very clear. We were into a new asset boom cycle. So it made sense completely since that time. Now it's changing around 2027, the cycle is going to shift a little bit. People think gold always rises constantly. That's true. But in between, there have been periods in history wherein it's even fallen 20%, 30%, or even 50% sometimes when countries, like in the US in the 1970s, a new gold policy they introduced, I forgot the exact name, but it fell like 50% in a matter of a year and a half. So there are such periods, and there's a possibility that there can be like nothing of that scale, but something around 20% or 25% fall sometime around 2033, 2034 is likely because of currency instability primarily. 2033. So till then, you see everything rising. Till then, it's another five years of rising. A small fall in between, and then rising again. Yeah, a small correction, and then rising again. Uh, but after 2033, we're going to see currency instability, actual currencies, and of course, this is going to be good for gold in the longer run. But before it becomes good for gold, initially when that when currencies become unstable, uh, the gold that countries hold, I feel there's going to be something that will go wrong with the ratios they hold or something like that. They've been really, really holding right now. Every one has been holding gold. Yes. So there's a likelihood that the prices might come. But if we see historically, every time, you know, we are heading towards the direction of a war, gold is the most safe haven asset, and hence it will only increase. It will only increase at least until 2033. It will increase. A small shift around 2033 to 36, and then again increase straight. Uh, so you're saying gold will keep on increasing for five years. It will easily, easily, easily. I think it is going to increase very well. I would continue holding it. Most of the clients I've been consulting regarding this have been holding gold since like 2019 straight away, and I think it'll do good for the next few years at least. Yeah.
Okay. Uh, one last statement for the viewers about India, India's prosperity, India's role in the global politics or geopolitical scenario. How do you see India emerging? India's already been becoming a very strong force now. People reckon with it. So just few statements. Absolutely. So Bharata is going to grow at an unprecedented scale. It's going to transform at an unprecedented scale and level. Nothing that we have seen before is going to happen in our puny bhumi. And we have examples for this from history when great leaders and people have come together to transform their countries. I don't think it is absurd to think of this. Of course, it is a risky bet to make, but I'm 100% sure this is likely and it will happen. Secondly, as a country, we all as citizens of this great nation with a rich history, we all share a responsibility of contributing towards it in a meaningful manner, both with our intellect as well as at least our behavior, which currently isn't very good. That we're not a very good example to even our fellow people as well as to the world around us. We need to be more of a good example, and that message needs to reach every nook and corner of this country. And I think our current administration is doing a good job at that, but I think it needs to be faster and bigger. It has to be on a larger scale. We are currently limited by the shackles of vote bank politics, because of which we are unable to implement these policies at scale, policies that are absolutely necessary. Currently, it's like it's like a weak parent just acquiescing to every demand of their children, and thus ruining both the parents' life as well as the children's life. Uh, in our shastras, it is said that the government is like a parent. It's like a cat that holds its kitten, not too tight, not too loose, but just perfectly enough so that the kitten survives and thrives. So that's exactly what the government should be doing. Unfortunately, now it's really pathetic. It was worse 50 years back, and I feel there will be some reforms in this country. But before such reforms take place, there'll be a war. And war tends to help countries reform internally. Otherwise, certain countries never. War, you're talking about will be the civil war, which this will be more likely with the neighbors. With the neighbors. With the neighbors. But any war tends to straighten up the citizens. Currently, the citizens are really messed up in the way of their thinking, at least in my humble opinion. I'm sorry if this is offensive, but it's messed up the way we think collectively as a society, the way we operate. It's visible on our cities, in our villages, the way we organize ourselves. People might think that's not a metric to judge a society, but your cities and the way you maintain them, the way you develop them, is a metric to measure society, whether we like it or not. And currently, it's not good. So we need to straighten up, and I think a war, unfortunately, will happen, and that will help us straighten up. It's helpful if we do it before that. So we all can try to do our best. I'm trying to spread this message, and personally, I'm trying to do my best, and I'll continue to do that. As a bhata, contribute as much as I can to the culture, society, and development of this country. And I do believe there are many people who are doing hundreds of times more than I'll ever be able to do for the benefit of this country. I see a lot of people working really hard, and if you really, and it's definitely not all doom and gloom. Just open the internet and search for the people who are cleaning our cities, our villages, our roadways, our waste management systems, and you'll see so many people who are doing a good job, and I really have faith in our country for that matter. So let's all come together and rebuild Bharata as a golden civilization. Um, very soon, AI will probably have an impact on 70% of the global economy. Not just a small impact, as in being a part of the economy that people currently believe it would be, but like a deciding factor of the livelihoods of people, a deciding factor, not just a participant, but a controlling agent of human prosperity. And there's another interesting thing that's going to happen in 2040, which I'll come to very soon. It's regarding food security. There is a likelihood that it will result in a famine of some sort.