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Sam Shamoun Reacts to Orthodox who DESTROYED NeedGod.Net on Debate

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AMAZING TESTIMONY, but I just want to play this clip real quick. Let's see Aiden. Shish Kebab. And Aiden's only what, 20, 21? Shish Kebab, Ryan getting him to scumbag buddy. And Ryan looks demonized. He looks sick. Look, have you not noticed the connection between Greg Stafford, Ryan, and David Wood? If you look in their face, look their eyes, evil, demonic, satanic, just so hideously demonically ugly. I'm not talking about physically. A demonic ugliness that you can see evil through their eyes and their mouths. It is wicked. And they all have the same thing in common. They're psychologically perverted. You can tell just by their faces. Look at Greg. Look at David. When he talks about what he did, look at this guy. Look at his face. Right? Watch this.

"Protestant: Deny the gospel is the trust in God, that's a saving faith? No, not necessarily. You can trust God. For example, does Paul say faith can profit anything without love in 1 Corinthians chapter 13 verse?"

Yeah, you see. Now notice he's just talking and smiling. See, that's what made Aiden's style good for Ryan. With me, I'd cuss him out and his ancestors. Young man, Aiden doesn't lose his cool. He just smiles and says, "Does Paul say?" Now watch. I'll show you what the argument is in a minute. "If I have all faith, but have not love, it profits me nothing."

"Qualifies all." That's a, that's a fallacy. He says, "All faith." No. "If I have all faith so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing." He gives a type of qualification. He says, "It's the faith that moves mountains." But Christ defined it in Matthew 17. Matthew chapter 17 verse 20. He says, "Because of your unbelief." In the Greek, it's the literal contrast of faith. That he says in the same verse, "Because of your unbelief, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, move from here to there, it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you." So that's the type of faith. Because it in 1 Corinthians 13, "If I have all faith, even to move mountains, the one in contrast to unbelief."

"Exactly. If it does not have love, it profits nothing." Well, you are, in a sense, expressing unbelief at that moment. You're not expressing trust in God's promise of."

"See how I just confirmed what he said? You're not expressing trust." If you didn't know how he caught him. He said, "Trust." Right? Is faith, right? Look, look, listen to how he stopped him. "This Protestant, deny the gospel is the trust in God, that's a saving faith." Trust in God, saving faith. He goes, "No, not necessary." Right? Later he says, "You're not trusting in God." See how stupid, demonic, perverted this guy is? Are you noticing? Lord Jesus Christ reigns. The, the connection between Greg Stafford, this guy, and David Wood. Have you noticed? They all have the same look. They look empty. They look almost as if they're not human. They look evil. And in their eyes, you feel a chill of evil just oozing out of them. And it even looks like it's just perversion, spiritually, psychologically perversion. Cause they're. And by the way, this sick little demon, look what he has in the background. He has like little dolls right here, if you see a larger picture. But now watch. Remember he said, "Trust is faith." Right? He said, "Not necessarily." Now watch. Later he's gonna say, "You're not trusting in Christ." "You're not trusting in Christ."

"No, not necessarily. You can trust God. For example, Paul say faith can profit anything without love in 1 Corinthians chapter 13 verse?"

Yeah. "If I have all faith, but have not love, it profits me nothing." That's a, that's a fallacy. He says, "All faith." No. "If I have all faith so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing." He gives a type of qualification. He says, "It's the faith that moves mountains." But Christ defined it in Matthew 17. Matthew chapter 17 verse 20. He says, "Because of your unbelief." In the Greek, it's the literal contrast of faith. That he says in the same verse, "Because of your unbelief, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, move from here to there, it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you." So that's the type of faith. Because it in 1 Corinthians 13, "If I have all faith, even to move mountains, the one in contrast to unbelief."

"Exactly. If it does not have love, it profits nothing." Well, you are, in a sense, expressing unbelief at that moment. You're not expressing trust in God's promise of."

"I'll never trust." Didn't he say that's what it was? Trusting in God. And he just defined it that way. "Leave you nor forsake you." So, but that is not justifying. So that person can still be trusting faith. That is a justifying. Hold on, hold on. You see why? You see, ha ha. You see, I why I love his style. He's young. That's why I pray he stays this way and he becomes 54, doesn't become bitter, he doesn't get angry. He just laughs. Cause he just said, "Hey, you just confirmed what I said." Look, look how he's gonna laugh. See that? Ha ha ha. I wish I had that patience, man. Damn. What happened to me? I, I didn't need to watch the debate, brother, to know Aiden was gonna destroy him. I didn't need to watch it. But they say he destroyed him. I didn't need to watch the debate to know that Aiden was gonna destroy him. So you wanna watch it? Watch it. I don't know. He said, "Bro, growing in our faith." One from Matthew 17, the one that moves mountains in contrast to unbelief. Like you just made the point, the one that's contrasted to unbelief is the trust in God that he caught him in his own words. Pray for me. The Holy Spirit fill me. Give me the health I need, holiness I need, perfect recall of scripture to bless you. The saving faith? No, not necessarily. You can trust God. Like for example, is the mustard seed faith, one for salvation? One unto salvation? It depends in the context. See, he got it. Now, let me explain to you what the argument was. You ready? You guys want me to show you what the argument is? And we're gonna get to. I just, we wait a few minutes before we begin. Here's what Paul says. It's the chapter on love. I wanna just put the first two verses, 1 Corinthians 13, 2. And here's what Aghan did. Okay, I wanna give you the context. Oh, my nose. You want me to break down the argument for you? What Aghan's argument was? Let's start with our Lord, Matthew 17:20. But I'll give you the context as my throat warms up. It's because I have a running nose, phlegm, that's allergies. Matthew 17:14 and 21. Some of your versions will put Matthew 17:21 in a footnote or in brackets. And when they came to the crowd, a man came up to Jesus, falling on his knees before him and saying, "Lord, have mercy on my son, for he has seizures and suffers terribly, for he often falls into the fire, often into the water. And I brought him to your disciples, and they could not cure him." And Jesus answered and said, "Oh, you unbelieving, perverse generation. How long shall I be with you?" Notice, "You unbelieving, perverted generation. How long shall I put up with you? Bring him here to me." And Jesus rebuked him, and the demon came out of him, and the boy was cured at once. Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, "Why could we not cast it out?" And he said to them, "Because of your little faith." Now, for truly I say to you, if you have the faith, faith the size of a mustard seed, you'll say to this mountain, move from here to there, and it will move. And nothing will be impossible to you." So is this saving faith? The faith that moves mountains? Is this the faith that Jesus wants? Is this the faith that Jesus desires? Is this saving faith? Is this the kind of faith that the Lord wants? And is it the kind of faith that pleases God? Is this it? Come on. All right. Now, if Ryan's false gospel is not false, and what he says about faith is true, then Paul contradicts his Lord, our Lord. Why? Look what Paul says. Look what Paul says here. Paul knows the sayings of Jesus. Look what he says. So Paul is contradicting Jesus, according to Ryan, the Bible pervert. "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, if I speak the language of angels, but I but do not have love, I become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and know all mysteries and all knowledge here, and if I have all faith, look, every kind of faith you can imagine, complete faith, perfect faith, whatever faith, if I have it all, and I'm even able to move mountains." You see, Paul knows the teachings of Christ, right? You see here, Paul is aware of the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. You see how these different books, written by different authors at different times, all confirm each other perfectly? You may have read this from Paul, but not realize that Paul is echoing the words of Jesus in the Gospels, cause he was taught the Gospel tradition. But now note the contradiction. "If I have all faith, whatever faith you imagine, if I have that to move mountains, but I do not have love, I am nothing." That won't save me. Uh oh, Martin Luther. Uh oh, John Calvin. Uh oh, Anthony Rogers. Uh oh, Matt Slick. Bye bye. Jamila White. If you have the very faith that Jesus said you must have, right? A faith that moves mountains, but do not have love, your faith is nothing. Bye bye, Sola Fide, as defined by Martin Luther and Lucifer Calvin. You understand why this is a nightmare? Bye bye, scroll. Do you understand why Catholic apologists and others have been using this? Do you know how many you'll find when they debate Sola Fide, bring up 1 Corinthians 13:2? You know when I first learned this argument? Yep. Son of his right hand. Do you know when I first heard this argument being brought up, used to destroy Sola Fide? You guys know when, when I used to be a staunch anti-Catholic Calvinist, I heard it in the debates against James White by Robert Sonnenberg, Patrick Madrid, as well as Dave Armstrong in his articles. This is a passage that has been used against the Reformation, but it's not a passage that has been explained thoroughly to Protestants so they can get it. You understand? So they can get it. So I'm helping you get it. Because in that heated exchange where they're talking over each other, you may not see the significance. And this is why when I saw the debates, the seeds were planted. Seeds were planted right in me, but I didn't understand the full implication of it. Because the way around this, you know what they're gonna tell you? What Jamila White will tell you. Jamila White will say, "But yeah, but true faith will have love. If it's true faith, then that true faith, right, will have love as a key definitional aspect of that faith." You understand? So they come back and say, "Well, saving faith results in good works. Saving faith produces fruits. If it doesn't, then it's not true faith." So true faith, saving faith, will result in deeds of love. An essential aspect of that saving faith is loving. But you understand how now that destroys them, right? So you're saying the faith that saves is a faith that is working in love, doing loving things. That faith that saves is being faithfully loving in action, which now means that I've been right to say saving faith is being faithful to obey Christ. You see how they still get buried? You get it now? When they have to define faith in 10,000 ways or give you 10,000 clarifications and qualifications, the gig is up. What you started out with, what was faith as just believing in your heart, you end up now having to define it. Well, it's not just mental assent. It has to result in obedient obedience. So why you playing games? Just say that the faith that saves is obedience to Christ. That's what faith is. You understand? Sola Fide dies the death of 10,000 qualifications. You can't sustain it. It's over. You hear me? There. It's over. When I have to keep defining what faith is in order to separate it from being an action. Faith is not just mental assent. Faith is action. Actively trusting in Christ by obeying Christ in love, which is faithfulness. You, you understand how it works, right? So when they have to then define faith that it now encompasses deeds of love, loving deeds, actions, commandments, obedience, you buried them. So, okay, so then the Catholic Church is right. The Orthodox Church is right. Why you wasting my time? Why you wasting my time? So we got that.