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Toronto Raptors Release 2025-2026 Schedule | Did Toronto make a HUGE mistake?

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The Toronto Raptors 2025-2026 schedule has dropped. We're going to go through the entire schedule, and we're going to answer a couple questions.

One question we're going to ask is, has the NBA finally been fair to the Toronto Raptors? Last year, I think the Raptors got a brutal end of the stick, which resulted in the Raptors getting injured early, starting out very slow, and pretty much the season was over before it even started. This year, I think, if I'm looking at the schedule correctly, as we break it down, we're going to find that I think the Raptors have been dealt more of a fair hand by the NBA.

The Emirates Cup, NBA Cup schedule has also been announced. We're going to take a look at that, and we're going to answer another question, which is the chatter on the internet right now: Did the Toronto Raptors make a mistake moving off of Pascal Siakam, OG Anunoby, and Fred VanVleet? All they got in return, basically, is Brandon Ingram, RJ Barrett, and Immanuel Quickley. I'll break down why that is totally false, totally incorrect, and why it is much easier to be a quarterback on Monday than it is on Sunday.

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Okay, let's start with the schedule. Let's look at the schedule. This is going to be a pretty succinct live. Not a lot of rambling. The Toronto Raptors start out in October. All right, and this is interesting. Okay, so first of all, the Raptors are going to be, you know, going through their preseason rigmarole starting October 6th. It feels like it's right around the corner, man. August, September, October. We're already mid-August. We're going to be seeing Raptors hoops in about 50 days or so.

So, the opening game is on Wednesday, October 22nd, on the road against the Atlanta Hawks. It's the first time the Raptors have started on the road since 2008. And yeah, this is going to be, um, and I think that was a shortened season. That was a lockout-shortened season. So, the Raptors typically do not start, uh, on the road in October. Their home opener is going to be October 24th versus the Milwaukee Bucks. So, okay, there's a chance you start 0-and-2. I'm going to be honest, there's a chance you can start 0-and-2. Atlanta's a good team. Milwaukee is a good team. Relatively speaking, though, of all the teams you could have faced early, you might want to get this out of the way. And I'm going to break down why you might want a bit of a harder schedule to start. And I think the Raptors do have a fairly mediocre to modestly difficult schedule to start, but it gets a little bit flatter and a little bit easier. Let's just take out, you know, a couple of key highlights and then, and then we'll kind of break down the game by game.

So, group stage, you know, for the Raptors, uh, in the NBA Cup, it's going to be at Cleveland on Halloween night. Then it's going to be at Atlanta November 7th. November 21st or 1st versus the Washington Wizards at Scotia Bank. And then close out November 26th, my birthday, Indiana, Scotia Bank Arena. So, and then from there on out, we go into the knockout rounds.

Season structure. The Raptors' season spans from October 21st to April 12th. It's a little bit more spaced out than it usually is. So, that's pretty cool. Okay, so couple of, um, you know, let's just say key key matchups, if you will. Hang on one second. Let me just break this down. I wrote this all down via email. Give me one sec. Let me just pull up my email. One sec. Silly me. I made some notes, man. I made notes and then I've completely forgotten it.

So, some notable matchups. It's Kyle Lowry visiting on January 11th and 12th. So, that's pretty cool. Uh, Atlanta, Pascal Siakam returning, November 26th, my birthday. Uh, Luka Dončić comes to Toronto for the Slovenian fans, December 4th. Oklahoma City, Shai visiting Toronto, uh, in, uh, February 24th. We have W.B.Y. the very next day on February 25th. That's going to be a really tough back-to-back. And Cooper Flagg. To those of you who followed the draft, interested to see Cooper Flagg. That's going to be March the 8th. Uh, the longest home stand is five games, February 1st to 11th. It is a softer part of the schedule, if you want my honest opinion, because you get three teams that you should be able to beat during that home stand and two teams that you could be competitive with. It's Utah, Minnesota, Chicago, Indiana, and Detroit.

You have a couple of five-game road trips, and none are totally, well, I'll say one of them is is kind of brutal. Uh, November 7th to 15th, you have Atlanta, Philly, Brooklyn, Cleveland, Indiana. So, I mean, that's not terrible, you know, given that Joel Embiid is going to be ramping up slowly, given the fact that Atlanta is going to be implementing, I, you know, potentially a really huge piece into their lineup. You might want to face Atlanta as much as the Raptors do early in the season as opposed to having to face them later in the season. It's always about when you play teams again. Uh, Indiana's going to be implementing some new pieces. Obviously, Tyrese Haliburton not in the mix. Maybe Indiana follows suit with last year where they started out really slow. Maybe they start out like gangbusters this year. I don't know. But they're going to be implementing Jay Huff, who, given the interview that I listened to with, uh, Rick Carlisle and Caitlin Cooper, it seems like, at least to me, that Jay Huff is going to be a really major part of their rotation. So, they're going to be implementing a new piece. Andrew Nembhard is going to get a chance to start at point. Pascal Siakam is going to be the man. And I think you should be able to beat Indiana comfortably. I think you should be able to beat Philly. If you can't beat Brooklyn, we're in trouble. Cleveland has given the Raptors nightmares. So, maybe, you know, that's not going to be much better. Atlanta is, you know, so maybe you go three-and-two on that road trip. Maybe you go three-and-two. That would be great. If you go two-and-three, I think it's okay.

Uh, January 18th to 25th. This is the toughest five-game road trip. And that's going to be the Los Angeles Lakers, Golden State Warriors, Sacramento Kings, Portland Trail Blazers, and OKC Thunder. That's brutal, but it's not as bad as it could be. You know, like, at least you get a couple of soft games in there. Portland and Sacramento should be winnable games. Not cakewalks by any means on the road, given the time difference and whatever. But it's also worth noting it's usually the first game. It's usually the first game back after the West Coast road trip that sucks, and it's usually the first game of that road trip because you're going through the jet lag. It's better that you face the winnable games third and fourth. So, I think that's worth noting.

And then you have another five-game road trip, which is Chicago, Denver, Phoenix, Utah, and LA Clippers this time. Chicago should be okay. Phoenix should be okay. Utah should be a cakewalk. Denver is going to be really hard, and the LA Clippers are going to be really hard.

Busiest months in terms of schedule load: November, uh, November, January, and March. The Raptors have 15 games each. December is the busiest month for home games, which is eight. So, if you're looking to get out to, you know, watch some overpriced Raptor games, December should be good. Uh, January and March, busiest road, uh, busiest road months. So, both months feature nine road games each. In terms of back-to-backs, the Raptors have 15 back-to-backs this year. Six are, uh, so two are home and road, six are home and home. One is road to home. And yeah, uh, in terms of broadcasting, yeah, we're good.

So that's sort of the schedule. Let's take a look, you know, where where sort of the Raptors start out here again. Atlanta, Milwaukee, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, Cleveland, Memphis. So if I'm looking at this, if I'm looking at this clearly, what's the really, really tough part of the schedule? Obviously, the aforementioned five-game Western Conference road trip, which is always brutal. But why might it be better to face some of these teams early? Well, looking at this, Dallas does not have Kyrie Irving until January. So, it might be to the Raptors' benefit that at least one of those games is early. Obviously, you're going to be facing them in March. They're probably going to have Kyrie Irving back. So, that's going to be a tough one. Uh, that's going to be March 8th, but at least you get one out of the way early. San Antonio, young team implementing some young players. Obviously, Ron Harper is probably going to be much better in March than he's going to be in November or October. So, you get that one out of the way early. Again, Houston is tough. A really tough game, but KD new to the system. Maybe, just maybe, you get them before they really ramp up. Veteran teams that are looking to win championships play their best basketball in January, February, March. So, typically, you know, teams like Cleveland, teams like OKC, uh, perhaps even a team like the Lakers, the Clippers, especially the Clippers because they're an old team. These are the teams you ideally want to play earlier in the season. These are not the teams you want to be playing late.

Last year, the Toronto Raptors were tanking all the way down the stretch. I don't think the Raptors are going to be tanking this year. I don't think the Raptors are going to be bad this year. But let's assume for a second that they are bad. Is there a contingency plan in this, uh, in this season where, okay, there's a marker? Last year, I think I said by game 20. Yeah, I said it last year. If by game 20, because it was a really hard schedule, I said by game 20, if you're not at least two to three games under 500, this will be tough, right? And obviously, the Raptors started out the way they did last year. Uh, Scottie Barnes got hurt early. Grady Dick went off. So, that was a tough start, and the Raptors were pretty much cooked before the season even started. You could look at Philly last year as another example of a team that had a really disastrous start. I think they were 15-and-25. And it's just like, 15-and-25 is tough in a regular season. However, this year, the East is pretty depleted. So, 15-and-25 would not be the worst thing in the world. Darko Rajaković has said many times, I've caught him saying at least three times in three different interviews that he prefers that his teams be playing their best basketball at the end of the season as opposed to the start of the season.

Last year, obviously, the Raptors started very gimmicky. They did that "MIG" thing where, you know, they were trying to press up on the ball and guard up on the ball. They were not trying to win basketball games last year. I think this year you will have a benefit of hitting the ground running a little bit better as opposed to being more experimental. And I do think that it's important to realize that the Raptors are a team that is going to enjoy a considerable amount of continuity from last year. I understand they're implementing a very large piece, which is Brandon Ingram, who could very well be their leading scorer this year. And frankly, should be their leading scorer this year, and probably their leading shot-taker this year. I think it's going to be him, Scotty, R.J., him, Scotty, Immanuel Quickley, some variation of that. The Raptors could be like the Wizards with Caron Butler, you know, back in the day. I think, uh, the Wizards had an iteration of that team where they had three guys averaging 20. I think it was Caron, Gilbert Arenas, and somebody. Correct me if I'm wrong. There, there, there was an iteration of that team where there were three guys who were averaging north of 20. I think it could be a little bit like that with RJ, Scotty, and BI. It'll be, it remains to be seen how egalitarian. Maybe none of these guys crack 25, but one cracks 24, one cracks 22, and one cracks 20. We don't know. But nevertheless, I do think the Raptors will hit the ground running, and they will enjoy some continuity. Obviously, they're implementing three very big pieces. One is Sandro Mamukelashvili, who probably figures to be their backup, uh, center. You're also implementing Colin Murray-Boyles, who's going to get at least 15 minutes a night. And then you're implementing Brandon Ingram, who, aforementioned, is your leading shot-taker. He's going to take some time to get adjusted defensively. It's probably going to be a little bit of a different offense with BI on the court. There's going to be some different looks, but I think it maybe serves you well that BI has been with the team since last season. He's had some time to at least get used to or acclimated to playing with this team. You cannot replicate real game reps, but I feel like this is a team that is going to be more together than the average team. They're going to have better chemistry than the average team. And that thing that a lot of teams usually take three, four months to figure out, which is where does my guy like the ball, where, you know, what are our rotations, which, you know, players work well together? I think it would be in the Raptors' best interest to figure that stuff out a little bit earlier in the season.

So, overall, let's see. Where do I see this team starting out? Let's, let's just, let's attempt to guess where this team will be after, you know, the handful of games. So, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston. Which of those are wins? I think Milwaukee should be a win. That's a home game. I think they split on the road. Dallas, San Antonio. So, that's two wins. So, two-and-three. Cleveland, probably a loss. So, two-and-four. Memphis, Milwaukee at home, I think you get one. So, three-and-five. At Atlanta, at Philly, at Brooklyn, at Cleveland, at Indiana, I think you go three-and-two. So, yeah, you, you could get behind the eightball really quickly, right? My goal or my target would be that you're playing 500 ball by the time you get to January 11th, 12th, back-to-back against Philly. We'll see. Maybe Joel Embiid is back by then, and then you're screwed. But my ideal goal would be that by January 9th at Boston, at Charlotte, Atlanta, Atlanta, Denver, Orlando, that stretch that the Raptors be playing close to 500 basketball by that time.

Now, after that, I think it's relatively smooth sailing. You do have some weaker parts of your schedule. Obviously, with how deep the West is, there are no West Coast games that are going to be cakewalks. I could imagine that even Utah, Utah could play competitive basketball all year and probably still finish with 24 wins. The teams around the league have just gotten better. I don't know what to tell you, man. There's a lot of talent around the league. The league is very young right now. It's been young for a few years now, younger than it's usually. And that usually comes with, frankly, a weeding-out process where young players get better and better every single year. And you have very few teams to pick on. Obviously, you know, target games in terms of losses, you know, you're looking at your Washingtons, which are going to be really young, but even Washington can put a game on you, right? Like they got CJ McCollum now. They don't have Marcus Smart anymore. But nevertheless, you know, they have Bilal Coulibaly. We'll see what he looks like. Alex Sarr could be a much better player this year. Keishawn George was a revelation last year. Trey, Trey Johnson, I think he might win rookie of the year. So, that could be interesting.

As a personal note, let's see. Uh, I get to see the Raptors face Carter Bryant on in the first, first four games. That's going to be cool on the fourth game of the season. We'll see. When does Carter Bryant come to Toronto? Carter Bryant comes to Toronto. Holy [ __ ] What are my eyes bugging? Does he not come to Toronto? Does San Antonio not visit? San Antonio does. Hold on. There was a game. What am I missing here? My eyes are bugging. I swear to God, I, I saw it before. I swear it was on my notes. Hold on one second. Wii it is. Where the hell was it? February 25th. Feb 25th. There we go. San Antonio. Wednesday, February 25th. Okay. I'm gonna be there. I will be there 100%. Uh, yeah, that's going to be really cool.

Raptors insider saying we probably win 55 games. Honestly, looking at the schedule, I, my last video was the Raptors are a 50-win team. Honestly, looking at the schedule and just kind of getting humbled by reality, that will require a lot of teams to fail and a lot of, you know, a lot of hard wins for the Raptors. There's a lot of toss-up games, right? Toss-up games include Boston. I don't know what Boston looks like with Anthony Simons. I really don't. I really don't know what what they're going to look like, but I have some faith in some of the young players that they brought in. Josh Min, Anthony Simons in a new situation. Maybe, just maybe, they can exhibit those guys and get something out of them. I think their front court is pretty cooked, but who knows? Maybe Chris Boucher has a, has a, has a mega year for those guys.

Atlanta is a bit of a wild card. I think Atlanta's a wild card because, you know, you really don't know what you're getting with Atlanta. You really don't know what you're getting with Philadelphia. You really don't completely know what you're getting with Sacramento. Obviously, Dennis Schröder is now there. You don't know what Chicago is going to be. You don't know what Golden State is going to be. I mean, there's so many things that can go right and go wrong throughout, you know, the season. San Antonio could be a juggernaut by February when they visit. They could be, you know, on pace for a 55-win season, or they could be like the third worst team in the league. I doubt they're going to be that bad because W.B.Y., you know, provided he remains healthy and Fox remains healthy, this could be a great thing. But we really don't see a lot of W.B.Y. and Fox last year. And if they have oil and water chemistry, they could be pretty bad, too.

Again, Orlando, you know, Orlando could be a mega power. I'm gonna be honest. I could see Orlando winning 60 games. If Jalen Suggs is healthy and Desmond Bane fits as well as I think he's going to fit, they could be a 60-win team this year. For someone to win, someone has to lose. And if there are multiple 60-win teams in the Eastern Conference, which is, you know, Cleveland, Atlanta, sorry, Cleveland, Orlando would be my bets. 60 feels like I'm gassing it a little bit, but Orlando was on pace to be amazing last year. And if, you know, if Paolo has taken a step, if Franz has gotten rid of that hitch, if Jalen Suggs is as good as I think he is, uh, you know, and he's healthy, there's a lot of ifs. Anthony Black could take a step. It's the same thing with, you know, and and the other team that's a complete wild card in the Eastern Conference is, in my opinion, the Pistons, right? The Pistons are a bit of a wild card because you really don't know how they're going to replace Malik Beasley and Tim Hardaway Jr. What if, what if, you know, Ausar Thompson takes an Amen Thompson-like jump? You know, he hasn't been healthy. He had the blood clot situation last year. What if Ron Holland is great? What if Jaden Ivey is great? You know, it's easy to say as a Raptor fan, what if Grady and Jaden take a step? But let's just be real for a second. Ausar and Ron Holland are top 10 picks. Grady and Jaden are not. So, and those guys are mega athletes. And you know, it's, it's a little bit homerish to assume that everything's going to go right for your prospects, but all the other prospects are going to fail, right?

Uh, Raptor Insider saying, "Scotty clears." You and I agree, but we are very much in the minority on that opinion right now, for sure. But I hope this year that that conversation is another conversation that we can resp-spark because last year it feels like Cade just put the dagger in that conversation. And I felt like Scotty was just ahead for like one, two, three years, and then Cade just overtook him last year. Paolo, you know, with the way he started out last year, he felt like he overtook him. But I'm going to be honest, I'm going to stand with Scotty, uh, you know, until I'm proven wrong. I think Scotty is the better prospect. But right now, it's hard to argue he's the better player last year, at least. So, that's where we stand.

You know, worst-case scenario, let's just say [ __ ]'s going really bad by the time you get onto the road and that LA Clippers, Lakers, Warriors, Kings, uh, Trail Blazers, that whole thing, cuz that's a really tough stretch. I feel like most of the people talking about their schedule are not looking at January, but I want you to, I want you to really hone in. Assume for a second, just assume that Joel Embiid is back and that, and that Philly is firing on all cylinders because honestly, Philly is a very talented team. They have Tyrese Maxey. I think most people would agree that's the best point guard between the two teams. Tyrese Maxey, if he's healthy, they have Jared McCain. I think most people can agree if Jared McCain was on the Raptors last year, he would have been by far their best rookie. So, they have those two guys. V.J. Edgecombe, that's a top three pick. They picked V.J. Edgecombe third. V.J. Edgecombe, at least analytically, was one of the best players in college basketball last year. What if he is a huge, huge, you know, plus for them? They got Paul George. Paul George, you say what you want. Pandemic P, Podcast P, whatever. But he's still a mega talent. And if he has a resurgence, if he has a bounce-back year, I think he's still a hell of a player. I know he had a terrible season last year, but everybody had a terrible season last year. There's also this young big man over in Philly named Adama Bona, who I am very, very high on and was high on, you know, pre-draft last year. He is a hell of a shot blocker. Can he replace Joel Embiid? No. Can he successfully back up Joel Embiid? Maybe. But, you know, he can provide you some minutes. I think Gerson Yabusele will be a bit of a loss. We'll see what happens with the Quentin Grimes situation. I'm assuming he comes back. That's a pretty deep team with Kelly Oubre Jr. in, uh, in tow, and you got Quentin Grimes. That's a pretty decent guard-wing rotation, and guards and wings can carry you through the regular season for sure.

So, you know, if Joel Embiid is back, you're looking at January 11th, 12th, back-to-back against Embiid. Those could be two losses. Then you look at Indiana. We'll see how they're gelling, but that's a toss-up game. Then you got the Clippers, Lakers, Golden State Warriors, Sacramento Kings. Those could all be losses. Then you go into Portland and, uh, you know, OKC. Portland is a much better team than people are giving credit for. The Raptors are going to have all sorts of trouble dealing with their length if Drew Holiday is, you know, keeping them competitive. Obviously, Portland won a lot of games last year. They won a lot of games towards the end of last year. They were not tanking, and, you know, they fully bought into this idea that Scoot Henderson is the future in in Portland. De'Aaron Fox is a really good player. Anfernee Simons is a really good player. Shaedon Sharpe's a really good player. They finally gotten rid of the one player on their roster that I could not stand last year, which was Anthony Simons. I can make a really, really good argument that Portland is a better team than Toronto. If Portland was in the Eastern Conference, I'd be picking them to win 50 games easy. I'm very high on their team.

So, all that being said, if you're going to tear down the season, you're going to tear it down right there. I'm just saying if [ __ ] hits the fan, that game January 30th at Orlando, that's comfortably, I think, right around the trade deadline. I'm not really sure when the trade trade deadline occurs, but it should be around February. So, that game right there should be when the Raptors decide to pull the plug on the season. And you know what? Good thing about pulling the plug on this season if you have to. I'm just saying, you know, if all [ __ ] hits the fan, everybody gets injured. You know, touch wood, Scotty has an injury, RJ has an injury, Brandon Ingram has an injury, and you have to play Grady Dick, and he struggles, and he, you know, Jaden takes a sophomore slump, and Ochai can't shoot, and Colin Murray-Boyles can't buy a bucket, and, you know, Jakob Poeltl has regressed or some [ __ ] like that. Sandro doesn't fit in. There's a lot of [ __ ] that can go wrong. I'm projecting things to go right, but I'm saying if things go wrong, you want to have a contingency plan. And I think your contingency plan goes in Utah, Minnesota, Chicago, Indiana, Detroit. I'd say you start tanking right in Utah. You start tanking. If things are not going well for you around that mark, you're probably around 10 games under 500. You could probably finish the season 15 to 18 games under 500, at which point you will be comfortably below the 37 and a half that Vegas has given you. You'll probably be like around, I don't know, a 28-win team, and you know, you'll have a really good chance at Cooper Flagg, not Cooper Flagg, AJ Dybantsa, Cameron Boozer, and the bunch. There's four players at the top of this draft that you would be very interested in. You obviously kick yourself if Indiana wins that draft because that is technically your draft pick, but had you owned that draft pick, they would never tank. So, we'll see what happens with this season. There's no sense in over-pontificating about this, but it's interesting to note that the Raptors do have an escape plan, and down the stretch, you do face quite a few, you know, good teams that will be competing for something, at least down the stretch. We saw that aggressive, you know, tank world order [ __ ] that happened last year where two teams that had no interest in winning are just going out and putting G-League lineups like the Raptors versus Philly, and it's impossible to lose those games. Well, I can tell you that Denver, Phoenix, Utah will be hard. Denver, Phoenix, LA Clippers, New Orleans Pelicans. I mean, most of the teams are either competing or they don't have their draft pick and they have no incentive to tank. Then you have Orlando, Detroit, Sacramento not tanking, not tanking, and reluctantly trying to be competitive. Memphis, Boston, Miami, Miami, New York, Brooklyn. Only teams there are really Utah and Brooklyn that are really horrible. So, if you do want to get into an aggressive tank, tank, tank down the stretch, there's an opportunity to go that way, too.

Now, obviously, my projection is that the Raptors will be good this year. Why do I think the Raptors should be good this year? Well, partially because the East is trash, but also because I think the Raptors are a bit slept on. So, I want to take a look at something that was said. Uh, hang on one second. I'm going to pull this up. This is something that was said, and I don't agree with it, obviously. Uh, but basically this commentary started last week where, uh, the Toronto Raptors are low-key, the Raptors are not, um, have made some pretty dumb moves here, basically, and they've got Brandon Ingram, they've got RJ Barrett, they've got Immanuel Quickley, and these other guys, you know, that they gave up, which is specifically OG, Pascal, and Fred. They're way better. You will hear zero debate from me that the three players that the Raptors lost from their 2020, you know, one, 2022 roster are better than these three players. But that's not really the calculus, and that's not really the full situation. So, I want to read this out, and then I want to discuss it for a second because I feel like a lot of people have been going down this line. Every single time OG has a little bit of success, anytime Fred has a little bit of success, there's all these people that are like, "Ah, we got those guys. We let them go." And then every single time Immanuel Quickley struggles or RJ struggles or, God forbid, if, you know, Brandon Ingram, you know, struggles a little bit, people be like, "This is what we gave up those guys for." Again, Monday morning quarterbacking. So, I want to read this out real quick, and then I just want to get into the nitty-gritty. It's a short one, but frequent misconception: Toronto turned Pascal Siakam, OG Anunoby, and Fred VanVleet into Immanuel Quickley, RJ Barrett, and Brandon Ingram. Not quite. They actually turned Pascal Siakam, Fred VanVleet, and O.G. Anunoby into Brandon Ingram, RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley, Jonathan Kuminga, Jaden Springer, and I forgot to mention, Ochai Agbaji. This is the type of thing you say when you're a bit slow. Sorry to be rude. OG is 28, Pascal is 31, Fred is 31. Conversely, RJ is 25, O.G. is 25, Immanuel Quickley's 26, Brandon Ingram is 27, Jaden is 21, Jonathan is 23, and Jamal is 23. So, you swapped out three players who are on average 30 years old and make an average of $36.6 million a year for seven players who are on average about 24, who make around $15 million per year. Now, even if I factor out Jaden, Ochai, Jamal, Jonathan, the average cost and players, uh, cost and age for Barrett, Quickley, and Ingram is still lower. So, you're talking about $32.6 million per year at 26 years old on a shorter-term deal versus $36.6 million per year, 30 years old. The argument on which trio is better is minorly irrelevant. The issue Toronto was facing was being too old, too expensive, too weak, too heavy, while being too good to tank, and depending on who you believe, too selfish. Toronto solved their issues. They're considerably younger, deeper, and less selfish today. They've also adjusted their window backward by three, four years. That's a win. That's a lot of wins.

Now, some people have a lot of issues with me saying that's a win. I want to explain to you why that's a win and why you might be misthinking this whole, "Oh my God, we moved off of Pascal too early." I want you to go back to that team that Fred VanVleet left because there was a crossroads situation. Right? Now, you can't completely go back to the real inflection point. And the real inflection point, the real fork in the road was the trade deadline the previous, the the previous season when they gave up that first-round pick and multiple seconds for Jakob Poeltl, and frankly, just set fire to this entire thing. I'll argue right now that Masai Ujiri doesn't make that trade. Masai Ujiri probably still has his job right now. But here I was screaming, "Oh no." And you can go back and check the clip. I promise you I'm not being a Monday morning quarterback. I was being the Sunday morning quarterback on that day, on that fateful day when I said this Jakob Poeltl trade would come back and haunt the Raptors. It has. That's not a slight on Jakob. It's just a slight on the situation. And the situation was the Raptors fizzled out in the plan in the most embarrassing fashion, being defeated by at least optically an 8-year-old or 9-year-old girl screaming, you know, at them very loudly. And that was DeMar DeRozan. And the Raptors subsequently ended up picking 13th in the draft. I wasn't too happy with the pick, but whatever. It turned out to be Grady Dick. The next year they surrender a top-eight pick, which unfortunately turns out to be, uh, Rob Dillingham, but could have very easily been a very good player. Could have been, you know, in theory, in theory, could have been Nikola Topić. It could have been Jared McCain. It could have been Khalif Wyatt. It could have been a lot of players that you could have picked with that pick. And that pick was not locked to the Jaden Springer pick. So, you had both technically. Like, if you, if you make the Pascal Siakam trade, but you don't make the Jakob Poeltl trade, you still get the Jaden Springer, you still get the Jaden Springer pick. So, it's just interesting how phenomenally stupidly the Raptors flunked that draft, and yet how well they made out of it. That being said, you don't get that top-eight pick. You lose the seconds. So, you lose two, a pair of seconds for Jakob Poeltl, and then on the on the upside, you have the privilege of having to overpay a center who does not shoot. That all being said, you've now doubled, tripled down on this by now extending him well into his 30s at $27 million a year, which is like, who asked you to do that? But whatever, you have a center. Congratulations. Your, your nightmare of Khem Birch and all the horrible centers that have lined the Raptors roster since Serge Ibaka and Marc Gasol left are over. But that all being said, did the Raptors overpay? Hell yeah, they overpaid. I mean, you, you gave up a chance at, you know, high lottery talent for Jakob Poeltl. You have no real contention window. I could argue Jakob Poeltl made you better every single year that you didn't want to be better. You lose out on the W.B.Y. draft. This has all been rehashed and and re-rehashed and re-re-rehashed on this channel 5,000 times. I won't be, I won't bore you with the details of having to rehash it again. But that being said, that was the mistake. Now, once you made that mistake, can't go backwards. You got Jakob Poeltl, you got to resign him. Fred VanVleet negotiates. You know, he knows he has leverage now. You've lost your draft pick. He tries to use that leverage, which was the real snake move on his part, and tries to get the Raptors to commit to $35 to $40 million a year for a long-term deal. Instead, the Raptors go as high as, I believe, 32. 30. 32 was the reported offer. Initially, they offered him 25 in the preseason, but I think they upped it to 30. And he decides that he's going to bet on himself. Surprise, surprise. And goes to the Houston Rockets to fill out their cap floor, taking a two-plus-one. They obviously declined the player option this past offseason. He signs 25 and 25. So, he signs a two-year, $50 million deal. That sets a chain reaction which obviously results in the Raptors signing Dennis Schröder, which, surprise, surprise, results in a net loss for the Raptors. They end up getting nothing in return. And now the Raptors are really [ __ ] because they have O.G. Anunoby who does not want to be here. He allegedly wants a bigger role. Sick and tired of Nick Nurse's offense, which again, had you, you know, pulled the pulled the trade on Pascal Siakam two years earlier, maybe O.G. Anunoby stays. But now O.G. has a sight set on New York. Pascal wants an extension, and this is the situation that Masai Ujiri found himself in. Fred VanVleet has walked. He did not, he did not accept your offer. And if you had, so let's play out the hypothetical and let's just say the Raptors do give Fred VanVleet the offer he wanted. $35 million a year for four years escalating. So, starting at 35, going up probably to about 40. Right now, where would you be? Let's say in this situation, in this hypothetical situation, O.G. Anunoby stays. Let's say all of this happens. Where are you? Are you in a better position today? Have you won a championship? Probably not. Did Scottie Barnes have that, you know, mega All-Star year? Probably not. Did you have a chance to really develop Scottie as a primary option? No, not really. You're sitting here heading into a season with Fred VanVleet at about 36 and 37 or 37 and $39 million for the next two years. Not a fun contract, not an easy contract to move, as evidenced by the fact that I think he was overpaid this year at 25 a piece. You have Pascal Siakam on a five-year deal. Note, the Raptors could offer five. Indiana Pacers could offer four. So, the Raptors would be on the hook for four more years of Pascal Siakam past the age of 31, which means you will be paying him close to, I think, 55, $56 million when he's 34 or 35 years old. You looking up, you look forward to that. And then on top of that, let's just say hypothetically, you do keep O.G. Let's just say you manage to keep O.G. He decides, you know, I don't want to leave Pascal. I want to leave Fred. I know these guys forever. You're now paying him on average about $40 million a year as well on another five-year deal. I think O.G. is fine, but when combined with Fred and Pascal, I think you have a roster that is very top-heavy and is suddenly kind of old.

Now, I want you to assume that you're in this situation with a 24-year-old, freshly 24-year-old Scottie Barnes, who's not actually ready to compete for championships today. He will be, however, ready by the time he is 26. Okay. So, by the time Scottie Barnes turns 26, O.G. Anunoby will be 30. So, very much at the tail end of his prime, given all the injuries and how his game is evolving. Pascal Siakam and Fred VanVleet will be over the hill and will be entering the last days of their, you know, serviceable starter range, but as very expensive players that you will have to pay. And your youth that was supposed to be coming up behind them is non-existent because you didn't have draft picks, you didn't have draft picks, you didn't have young players. So, Ochai not here, Jamal Shed not here, how are you replacing these players? Jonathan Kuminga not here. Jaden Springer not here. Colin Murray-Boyles probably not here. You're probably getting a, you're probably getting a worse player, frankly. You're probably getting a, a worse pick because you weren't able to tank last year. So, all of the youth and development and cap flexibility you now have. I mean, you can, you can piss and moan all you want about Immanuel Quickley. I believe that a couple years from now, Immanuel Quickley will be a better player than Fred VanVleet, but he's not a better player today. I believe that a couple years from now, Brandon Ingram will be a better player than Pascal Siakam, provided he doesn't have some sort of disastrous career-ending injury, but he's not a better player today. I believe that the sum total of all the young players that you acquired and the cap flexibility will be equivalent to or greater than what O.G. Anunoby is, but they're not better today. O.G. Anunoby is still a hell of a player. Pascal Siakam just won Eastern Conference Finals MVP and was one game away from winning an NBA championship as his team's leading scorer. And Fred VanVleet has become an invaluable part of a contender and a starter on a contender. These are really good players. The problem with assuming that they could have done that here is you're really missing the context of how they're doing what they're doing. Pascal Siakam is on a deep team with a spacing big, with a tremendous amount of depth and defense behind him that did not exist in Toronto. Pascal himself has opened up about this, and Rick Carlisle himself has has thrown heaps and heaps of praise towards Pascal for buying in, changing his style, changing his philosophy, changing his approach to being more off the ball and being a little bit quicker to get rid of the ball. What was the most frequent criticism of Pascal Siakam in Toronto by me? Doesn't play defense, hangs onto the ball. Well, now he does play defense, and he moves off the ball really well. Now he does play defense, and he shoots a high volume of threes, and he shoots them very well. Where was this Pascal in Toronto? One could argue this Pascal does not happen in Toronto because he was done in Toronto. Said he was miserable. Said he'd had enough. He wasn't going to move off the franchise tag because he thought he, he thought, "Hey, I don't think Scotty's earned the franchise tag." That's the tough situation that Masai faced. Go forward as a non-contender with Pascal. Allow Scotty to toil as a sort of second option, knowing Siakam, in at least their opinion at the time, was not good enough to lead a team into a championship contention window, either off the court intangibles, on the court as a player, as a play style wasn't good enough. They gave him a chance. They gave him three years. Fred VanVleet was given a chance. He was given the reins. When, when Kyle Lowry moved on, he was promoted as the team's leader. He did not succeed. So, moving off that, this is a little bit like, I'll give you an example actually. So, in 2016, I met this girl. She was fantastic. I, I swear I was in love. I was in love, you know, and a lot of great things happened in my life. I shot my first feature. First started pen dancing. You know, I thought I was smitten. But a couple years into it, I was starting to fall apart. Could be her, could be me, could be us. Whatever it was, I wasn't taking care of myself. My gym routine had fallen off a cliff. My diet had fallen off a cliff. I was in a deep depression. I was overworked like crazy. I was working 80 hours a week, and I just wasn't happy, and I wasn't making her happy. So, lo and behold, February 2019 rolls around. I got a brain tumor, and I got a girlfriend who is about to dump me. And, uh, I got to tell you, that felt like rock bottom for me. That really did. That felt like hell of rock bottom for me. And what happened next was a metamorphosis. Got the brain tumor taken care of. Hit the gym like a crazy [ __ ]. Changed my entire diet. A year later, I was a completely new man. I was standing taller. I swear I was standing an inch taller. My shoulders widened. I got into the best shape of my life. And all I kept thinking about was, "She could she could see me now. She could see me now." And, you know, that pettiness existed for about six months where I kept thinking she gave up on me, or, you know, she gave up on us and all that stuff. Sorry if I'm oversharing, but I'm just, I'm trying to put this into perspective. And it was, you know, my friend Bianca, who just had her birthday, you know, seven days ago. Shout out to B. And my friend Masha, who kind of explained to me this version of you does not exist if she doesn't leave. That's the point. This version of Pascal does not exist if he does not go and have a championship head coach like Rick Carlisle and a team headquartered by a player that he admires and respects as his equal or his superior in Tyrese Haliburton. Doesn't happen. Doesn't happen if he doesn't have a stretch big like Myles Turner. Myles Turner and Tyrese Haliburton were not in Toronto. It's the same thing with Fred VanVleet. Whatever prickliness, whatever, you know, [ __ ] happened with him and Scotty, it wasn't going to get fixed here, man. I'm going to tell you right now, it wasn't going to get fixed here. I have like a good deal of insight into that entire, you know, breakdown. Same thing with Nick Nurse. You can

Say what you want about Darko Rayakovich. I'm going to tell you right now, Nick Nurse was at the end of his reigns here and he was at the end of his run.

Sometimes you need a fresh start. And it's very easy to say, "Well, OG could have done this." Well, you have Jaylen Brunson here. Do you have Josh Hart? Do you have Muel Bridges? Do you have New York? Do you have, you know, the depth that they have? Do you have Tom Tibido? Do you have? Do you have these players? Do you have Mitchell Robinson? Do you have these players? No, you don't. You don't have these players. So, whatever context these guys are succeeding in, I promise you, it is very different than the context they had here. And they are being paid a lot of money. An exorbitant amount of money. Exorbitant amount of money, man. And the Raptors were not getting these guys this cheap. The Raptors were not getting Gary Trent on a minimum. He's signing a minimum there. The Raptors not getting Precious Chew on a minimum. I'll guarantee you if you sign a minimum with New York right now if they offered it to him. The Raptors were not getting these players on the deals that they signed. And frankly, they're going to they were going to be paid more and paid longer if they signed with the Raptors. So, it's very easy to sort of judge what the Raptors were doing back then and be like, well, you know, we almost had the conference finals MVP, but he's not the conference finals MVP if he stays here, right? It's it's fair to say, you know, that you're probably always going to wonder what if if you're if you're like that. I'm personally not wondering what if. What I'm wondering is what was Messiah Jury thinking? What were Bobby Webster thinking? What was the thinking that went into the rationale, the decision to part with these players? And I think what went into it was, yeah, they're really good players, but the market is not appreciating them because we cannot win enough. We just got bounced in the playin. Fred Vanble Vleet's gone. Teams are calling our bluff. Teams don't want to deal with us. Get what you can and move on.

Okay, I think the Raptors got a hell of a haul. I I understand they could have gotten more and maybe if I was in charge, I would have demanded more. Maybe I would have demanded a more pixcentric package, but I think the Raptors have a couple of things that are baked in. You see what I mean? Like when you make a logical web, you have to assume certain things are true. And your assumptions can be wrong. Let's just say, for instance, I assume that I assume that this is real. I assume that this is water. I assume that if I drink this, I'm going to be hydrated. Now, I'm assuming it's water, but what if it is vodka and I can't smell? Well, then I'm not going to be de I'm not going to be hydrated. I'm going to be dehydrated. I've made a mistake. This is not really water. It's vodka. But this is actually water. I promise you it's water. And therefore, drinking it should should replenish me. But what if there's poison in the water? Well, now I'm going to die. You see my point? The rappers had to drink the water on Scotty Barnes. They had to believe and make an assumption that this is the type of dude that you're going to win a championship with. This is the type of dude that can lead you to a championship. This is the type of goo dude that can rebuild your organization. Re you can really shepherd a ship. And I understand that maybe for a couple years they were on the fence about that. Maybe they didn't know for sure. Maybe they didn't want to let go of the sure thing. There's that thing about the devil you know versus the devil you don't know, right? I'm not saying Scotty's a devil and I'm not saying Pascal and Fred are devils. I'm just saying you won a championship with those guys. This guy was in high school. So, the reality is it's difficult to shift directions. But I felt for a very long time that superstars when they come, they're like earthquakes. They break everything apart. Yo, when LeBron got to Cleveland, all those dudes were gone. I want you to look at the first team portrait with Scotty Barnes in 2021. I want you to look at that roster. I want you to look at that picture. I want you to hone in real tight on that picture. Zoom in as hard as you can. As big as your screen is, zoom in now. Find the name. Find the face that's still here. There's only one. There's only one. And this was clear from day one. The minute you got him, that was your guy. That was your franchise.

I don't think I don't think Fred appreciated that very much. I don't think Pascal necessarily agree with it. I don't know if OG was with it. Obviously, Scotty and OG are very close, but I think everybody kind of saw that, hey, this is their guy. This is their franchise guy now, and everything is going to march to his his beat. Even though we won a championship here, it's going to march to his beat. The championship, the Raptors championship is always viewed as a great thing, and it is a great thing. You wouldn't trade it for the world. But the reality is sometimes great things come at a cost. And the cost is you have a coach who's a first year head coach. He demands a to renegotiate his contract the second you win that championship. You have a backup point guard and you have a second leading scorer who see the top dog leave and say I guess we're the heroes. We're the heroes now. I don't think Pascal Sak leading you leading you to a championship, bro. I'm sorry. I don't I love OG. I hope y'all know that. He was my favorite player before Scotty got here. I don't think he's worth $40 million a year at all. I think Denny Abdia and Herb Jones are comparable players and they get paid way less. OG wanted the bag. Pascal wanted the bag. Fred wanted the bag. Gary wanted the bag. And honestly, there wasn't enough bag to go around. That's the reality of the situation. We've heard plenty of exposees from Michael Graange and Doug Smith and these various so-called insiders about what the Raptors tried to do to negotiate peace between these two factions. And then I think there's just a very very important thing of what is a team on Scotty's timeline and what is playing like Scotty wants to play actually look like? And I think it looks like what you playing like right now. Unselfish, egalitarian, deep, defense first. I'm sorry. Fred Van Ple's not going to be a great defender at 33. Okay. I don't think Pascal is turning into a good defender here. I don't know if OG Anobi is going to be around and really kicking and the po and the whole point of going through this sort of you know championship window talk which I've you know I mentioned many many times. You know, it's a lot of teams out there that had championship windows, but they closed too soon because of an injury or they opened too late because of an injury or maybe they just happen to coincide with a great three peep like the Shaq and Kobe Lakers. I mean, how many championship did those two take away? If if Shaq and Kobe don't exist, who wins those championships in 2020, 2001, 2002? I'm going get I'm going guess the Spurs get one, the Blazers get one, and the Kings get one. That's the thing. It's like, but now the Blazers go home empty. The Spurs are one one ring short of six and the Kings never win one. So, it's just like that's kind of what happens, right? Someone's got someone's got to win and 29 teams have to lose every single year. There's only one team that wins their final game of the season, right? Their final playoff game of the season. And that and that's the team that wins the championship. So, you know, last year OKC won, Indiana didn't, Denver didn't, Minnesota didn't. Those teams go home empty-handed. You're not going to win a championship on the first crack. You're not. So, what you have to do is it's a little bit like, you know, tipping something over. You got to take two, three cracks, two, three runs at it until it falls over. And that's what the Raptors did with Demar Rose and Kyle Lowry. But those two were on the same timeline. T Ross, Jonas Ventress. Look at that core. Scotty and Pascal were not on a compatible timeline. They are two players that are separated by seven years in age. and have rather incompatible play styles. Now, obviously, if Pascal agrees to be Indiana Pacers Pascal, he's a better player than Brandon Ingram for Scotty Barnes. 100% I agree with that because his defensive upgrade on Brandon Ingram and his offball, you know, gravity and all that stuff and his playmaking is great. Great. Still going to be 45 to $46 million and he's still older than Brandon Ingram. Brandon Ingram is younger than OG Anobi who is the youngest player that you got rid of in that situation. So, I think the Raptors are better off. I think they're deeper. I think they're more to Scotty's timeline, which is very important to realize.

Let's say the Raptors take their first crack this year. Let's say they make the playoffs, they get bounced in the first round, and let's just say they get real lucky and maybe they replicate what Orlando did two years ago. They make it to a game seven against Cleveland. So, let's just say the Raptors are six seed or let's just say the Raptors are a playing team and they're the eighth seed and they take Cleveland to seven games. That's a valuable thing that you can build on. But guess what? Next year you come in, Scotty's 25, Ingram is 28. Do you see what I'm saying? You're still there. You're still, everyone's still in their prime. The Raptors have one player, one player on their roster who currently at this exact moment is over the age of 29, and that's Garrett Temple. Am I mistaken on that? Chris Bush is gone. He was one of the oldest Raptors last year. He's gone. Sandro Mamu Kylesi I think is 26. The whole team is young. So this is good. So if Scotty and BI and RJ and this whole thing works is great because you're going to have five cracks at this. You're going to have five cracks at this and you're sort of timing it out so that you're all all of those cracks will be when Scotty is a good player. It's not going to come too early. It's not going to come too late. The worst situation would be you go on that Fred OG Pascal timeline. Now, when Scotty's actually good enough, again, the hypothesis, this is water. If Scotty is not really a championship number one, sorry, you just drank poison and you're [ __ ]. But if he is, you have to assume he is. Assume he is for a second. Humor me. Assume that he is a championship number one. Assume that he is the best player on a championship. Assume he can do some variation of what Hallebertton, Joic, and these dudes did when they brought their team to the promised land. Maybe you don't win it, but let's just assume that he can he's actually the type of player that can get you through three rounds and get you to the finals in a depleted East. Let's assume that he's that type of competitor, leader, culture builder, player, passer, whatever, rebounder, defender, all the wonderful things that he does. Let's just say he's that type of quarterback. Then by the age of 26, you're rebuilding with Pascal, OG, and Fred being too old to compete with him. And now you got to go and try a [ __ ] craft with a whole new set of players. And you don't have the assets. You weren't bad enough to acquire a bunch of lottery talent like Jacobe who is a lottery talent in my opinion even though you got him at 19 in exchange for Pascal Seakum like Colin Murray Boils who you never get if you're if you're much better last year. If you're the 17th 18th pick Col's not is not available at 17 or 18. So Colinary Boils hits for you. That's a player you probably don't get. Grady Dick. Maybe Grady is the one player that you actually do get even if you keep all this [ __ ] together because you know that was the player you actually got before Fred left. My point being this timeline makes a lot more sense if Scotty is in fact a superstar. And I think most NBA analysts have gotten this whole thing backwards because they're seeing Fred and they're seeing OG and they're seeing Pascal in their new roles and they're saying the Raptors had all these guys. The Raptors really [ __ ] up. The Raptors had, you know, Norman Pal. Yeah, I'll agree with you 100%. The Norman Pal, Gary Trent Jr. stupid ass trade. But they cleared a lot of commitments. That Pascal deal with the Raptors would have been five years. it would have been, you know, expensive as hell. You're you're signing up for the back end of these guys careers. You're signing up for the regressive years. And quite frankly, we've just seen Damen Lillard, Bradley Beal get waved and stretched. And I got news for you. Those are 30 point per game scorers. Each of those players at their peak was viewed as a allNBA talent, a future Hall of Famer. Brad Beal. I understand some people might push back and say Pascal was a better player than Brad at at their top to top, but Bradley Beal averaged 30 points per game for like two straight years. Bradley Beal was a bucket. I think there's a lot of NBA fans that will push back and say Bradley Beal at his apex was better than Pascal. I'm not one of them, but I would say like those two guys, they seem like sure bets. Those two guys are north of 30. I'll say this, you don't want to be in a situation when you're this expensive and this mid. And ultimately, if those three players, especially two of them, were unwilling to be on a team led by Scotty, then really you only had two options. Let Scotty follow or get rid of him. Those are the only two options that were presented to you. Messiah chose the right door. He chose it late. He got fired for it, but I think he chose the right door. And I'm curious to see what this Raptors team is going to look like this year.

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