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MARIA: THE SEARCH FOR NANCY GUTHRIE ENTERING DAY TEN. SAVANNAH GUTHRIE ISSUED A NEW PLEA, BEGGING FOR THE PUBLIC'S HELP IN FINDING HER 84-YEAR-OLD MOTHER. INVESTIGATORS ARE NOT IDENTIFYING ANY SUSPECT OR PERSON OF INTEREST IN THIS CASE. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT MATT FINN IS LIVE ON THE GROUND IN TUCSON WITH THE LATEST WITH THE SEARCH EFFORTS. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US?
>> GOOD MORNING. SAVANNAH BEGS THE QUESTION WHERE THIS INVESTIGATION IS. SAVANNAH PERSONALLY PLEADING TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY INFORMATION ANYWHERE NATIONWIDE OR AROUND THE WORLD. READ ALSO, THE DEADLINE FOR THEIR RANSOM DEMAND CAME AND WENT YESTERDAY. IT EXPIRED. IT THE FAMILY DID NOT PAY OUT. THAT ALSO MAKES YOU WONDER IF THEIR RANSOM NOTES WERE EVER LEGITIMATE OR LINKED TO THE ACTUAL SUSPECT. IF THIS IS A TRUE KIDNAPPING, THE FBI IS SAY THE FAMILY IS NOT IN COMMUNICATION WITH ANY ALLEGED KIDNAPPERS. THE FBI WRITING IT'S NOT AWARE OF CONTINUED COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE GUTHRIE FAMILY AND SUSPECTED KIDNAPPERS, NOR HAVE WE IDENTIFIED A SUSPECT OR PERSON OF INTEREST IN THIS CASE AT THIS TIME. WE'RE OPERATING A 24-HOUR COMMAND POST WITH CRISIS MANAGEMENT EXPERTS, ANALYTIC SUPPORT, AND INVESTIGATIVE TEAMS. WE STILL NEED THE PUBLIC'S HELP. SOMEBODY HAS ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT CAN HELP US BRING NANCY HOME. WE NEED THAT PERSON TO SHARE WHAT THEY KNOW. ANOTHER NOTABLE POINT, IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT THE SECOND ALLEGED NOTE TO THE FAMILY SAID. IT DID GET A SECOND NOTE LAST FRIDAY, BUT IT IS NOT RELEASING THE DETAILS OF THE MESSAGE OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE FAMILY AND THE INVESTIGATION.
SAVANNAH GUTHRIE POSTED THE VIDEO BY HERSELF TO INSTAGRAM YESTERDAY. IT SEEMED TO BE MORE PERSONAL AND HER OWN WORDS. SHE SAID THE FAMILY IS IN AN HOUR OF DESPERATION. A SOURCE CLOSE TO THE SITUATION CLARIFIES THAT NANCY GUTHRIE WAS NOT EXPECTED AT CHURCH THE MORNING SHE WENT MISSING. RATHER, A LIVESTREAM OF CHURCH. TELLING FOX ON FEBRUARY 1, NANCY DID NOT ARRIVE AT HER FRIEND'S HOUSE AS EXPECTED TO WATCH THE LIVESTREAM. CONCERNED, THE FRIEND CONTACTED HER DAUGHTER AND SAVANNAH GUTHRIE'S SISTER TO REPORT THAT NANCY HAD NOT SHOWN UP AND COULD NOT BE REACHED. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION YESTERDAY HOW DISCRETE OR UNTRACEABLE BITCOIN MAY BE. WE TALKED TO AN EXPERT, A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR. IF YOU WERE TO REMOVE ANY FUNDS FROM THAT, THAT'S WHEN THINGS BECOME TRACEABLE AND YOU MAY HAVE TO ENTER IDENTIFICATION OR CURRENCY. THAT'S WHERE IT BECOMES DETECTABLE.
MARIA: WHEN YOU TRY TO CASH IN IS WHEN IT'S DETECTABLE. THANK YOU, MATT FINN. INTO SAW FBI DIRECTOR, PRACTICING ATTORNEY CHRIS SWECKER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO WHAT YOU HEARD FROM MATT?
>> GOOD MORNING. I THINK HE MAKES A VERY GOOD POINT. A VERY DRAMATIC CONTRAST BETWEEN THE EARLIER FAMILY COMMUNICATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE MOST RECENT ONE. THE EARLY ONES WERE VERY SCRIPTED AND TALKING TO THE KIDNAPPERS EXCLUSIVELY. NOW SHE IS PERSONALLY, INDIVIDUALLY, IN HER OWN WORDS, TRYING TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC AND SHAKE LOOSE FROM THE PUBLIC. IT IS REMARKABLE THAT THE INVESTIGATORS ARE NOT DOING THEM THAT THEMSELVES. THEY HAVE BEEN SILENT THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS. YOU WONDER WHETHER SHE'S DOING THIS ON HER OWN OR DOING THIS WITH AS IMPORTANT ADVICE FROM THE FBI, WHICH IS NOT TAKING THE LEAD IN THE INVESTIGATION BUT PLAYING A LARGE, OUTSIZE ROLE IN THIS INVESTIGATION. AND BY THE WAY, WERE IT NOT FOR THE CELEBRITY ASPECT OF THIS, THAT FBI WOULD HAVE NO JURISDICTION IN A CASE LIKE THIS.
>> I ASSUME THAT'S WHY THE FBI TOOK THE LEAD. I'M HAPPY THEY TOOK THIS ROLE. I WAS EXPECTING THEM TO CRACK THE CASE BY NOW. WHAT ABOUT THAT? IN CASES LIKE THIS, DO INVESTIGATORS ASK FAMILY MEMBERS TO TAKE A POLYGRAPH TEST? AND HAVE ANY OF NANCY GUTHRIE'S FAMILY MEMBERS DONE THAT?
>> THEY HAVE TO RE-EVALUATE THE FAMILY AND IT'S PLAYING OUT IN A PUBLIC WAY. THE PRESS IS MICRO-ANALYZING EVERYTHING THEY SEE, EVERYTHING OR DRONES IN THE AIR. BY NOW, THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOME OF THE BOXES GOING INTO THE HOUSE. THE SISTERS' HOUSE MAY HAVE HAD POLYGRAPH EQUIPMENT, AND IT WOULD BE LOGICAL TO DO THAT. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, THERE WOULD BE NO REASON NOT TO TAKE A POLYGRAPH TEST. I'M NOT BIG ON THEM. I THINK THEY'RE MORE THAN AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL THAN A TOOL TO TELL WHETHER YOU'RE TELLING THE TRUTH. AND PEOPLE SEE THE BOX AND ALL THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND IT. THEY OFTEN TEND TO TELL YOU THINGS. IT'S A TRUTH SERUM. THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING TO RULE OUT THE FAMILY, BUT AGAIN, IT'S PLAYING OUT IN A PUBLIC WAY. BUT THEY ALSO ARE RUNNING DOWN OTHER TRACKS AS WELL. YOU POINTED OUT THE CAPABILITIES ARE IMMENSE. I THINK THE VIDEO WILL PLAY A ROLE. WHEN I SAY THE VIDEO, THE VIDEO OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS A NARROW TIMEFRAME WHERE THE KIDNAPPERS, OR THE BAD GUYS, IF YOU WILL, LEFT THE HOUSE AT TWO SOMETHING IN THE MORNING. AT SOME POINT, IT EMPTIES ONTO A COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A LOT OF VIDEO. I THINK IT TAKES A LOT TO DISTORT THROUGH WAS SELF-TRACK, FAKING, AND OTHER FORENSIC DATA FROM DEVICES AND THAT SORT OF THING. I THINK EVENTUALLY YOU GET A SOLUTION, BUT THE CLOCK IS TICKING.
MARIA: AFTER TEN DAYS, HOW DO WE KNOW NANCY GUTHRIE IS ACTUALLY SAFE? AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD MADE A POINT OF POINTING OUT THAT THE PERPETRATOR WAS IN HER HOUSE FOR 41 MINUTES. WE KNOW THAT WHEN THE RING CAMERA WAS TAKING THEM, THE PEACEMAKER STOPPED CONNECTING. WHAT ABOUT THAT? AND WHAT PATH DO YOU THINK THE FBI IS ON TO TRACE WHO HAS NANCY GUTHRIE OR TRACK THE FOOTSTEPS LIKE THE DNA AND THE BLOOD?
>> WE HAVE FORENSIC GENEALOGY. IF THEY GOT A VIABLE DNA SAMPLE AROUND THE HOUSE OR WHEREVER, THAT HAS LED TO A LOT OF SOLUTIONS. FINGERPRINTS HAVE BEEN HIT. WHEN I SAY CODE, EXTENSIVE DNA DATABASE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ARRESTED AND GAVE THEM A DNA SAMPLE. WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY GOT A VIABLE DNA SAMPLE OUT OF THE HOUSE. AT THIS POINT, SOMETHING BREAKS LOOSE, AND THEN YOU HAVE A CAR, TAG, DNA, FORENSIC GENEALOGY, SOMETHING HITS, AND THEN A LINK OF 70 COMES FORWARD SPEED. BUT IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. THAT'S THE POINT THAT DAN BONGINO, FORMER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE FBI AT FOX, MADE. HERE'S WHAT HE SAID.
>> THEY HAVE THE CRIMINAL SKILL SET. THEY WERE ABLE TO NOT LEAVE TRACE OF A FOOTPRINT, TIRE. THEY DID NOT TRIPLE LICENSE PLATE READER, MANAGED TO TURN OFF CELL PHONE ACTIVITY. AND THEN YOU FORGET THE MEDICATION. AGAIN, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT IS WELL-THOUGHT-OUT, AND WE HAVE TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. WHATEVER IS INSIDE OF THE BOX IS NOT PANNING OUT RIGHT NOW.
MARIA: THIS IS QUITE EXTRAORDINARY. NOTHING WAS LEFT IN TERMS OF EVIDENCE OR FOOTPRINT. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
>> THERE'S AN OLD SAYING: EVERY CRIMINAL LEAVES SOMETHING OUT AT A CRIME SCENE AND TAKES SOMETHING AWAY. THEY'RE DROPPING FIBERS, FINGERPRINTS, DNA AT THE SCENE. AND IF THEY ARE IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE VICTIM, THEY TAKE THE HAIR AND FIBERS AND BODILY FLUIDS WITH THEM, WITH DAILY FOOTPRINTS, YOU NAME IT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY COLLECTED AT THE HOUSE. AND ORIGINALLY, THE SHERIFF PUT TOO MUCH INFORMATION OUT. THEY HAD TO WALK THE INFORMATION BACK UP WITH THE TOOTHPASTE BACK IN THE TWO. CLOSE DOWN, AND THEY CLOSED THEM DOWN CAREFULLY. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY COLLECTED OUT OF THE HOUSE OR ANYWHERE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER, INSIDE OF THE SISTERS' HOUSE. BUT I DO THINK TECHNOLOGY PLAYS A ROLE. GO BACK TO VIDEO. IN THIS DAY AND AGE, SOMEBODY LEFT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN A CAR, AND IT GOT CAPTURED ON THE VIDEO OUTSIDE OF THE RESIDENCE. IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO CORRELATE THE INFORMATION AND SPEED REVIEW THROUGH ALL OF THAT. YOU CANNOT SPEED REVIEW THROUGH THE VIDEO BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. YOU HAVE TO DO IT SLOWLY AND MANUALLY. AND THE FBI GUIDING HERE LATELY, GAME THERE WAS A FRICTION IN THE BEGINNING THAT DID NOT HELP MATTERS MUCH, BUT THERE WILL BE A SOLUTION. WITH A THIRD MEDICAL CONDITION, WE HAVE DEFENDED THE BE CLOSE THE DOOR ON THE RANSOM DEMAND BEING CONNECTED TO HER DISAPPEARANCE. HER PLEA TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC SLAMMED THE DOOR ON THE WOULD-BE KIDNAPPERS, IF THEY EVEN EXISTED.
MARIA: THAT'S SOMETHING TO WATCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU, WAYNE N. CHRIS SWECKER. STAY WITH US. WE'LL BE RIGHT