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Mistress Blunt Interviews Goddess Gabrielle about Latex, Blasphemy, and Power Exchange Dynamics.

Danielle Blunt1:22:27

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My sister's house and I'm like, "Help me put this on," and I get into it. I get into it and I'm just like, I felt—I have like a thousand selfies from that day.

Was it a full catsuit? Your first piece was a full catsuit.

Fetishist all the way, yeah.

Yeah, I remember like dancing in the living room and she's taking these cute videos. It was very wholesome. Like it wasn't erotic in any sort. It was wholesome, and like I was like, "Wow, you know, like I like the way I look. I like the way I feel."

For me, latex is comfort, second skin. I feel the most confident ever in it. It just makes me feel powerful and makes me feel sexy, and it makes me feel like I can do anything. That's how latex makes me feel. I love that. I feel like it looks very superhero. So I love hearing when it makes people feel that way.

I have been very opposed to latex. So the fact that I'm wearing some now is remarkable. I feel like I made a clip called "Mommy's Late Late Latex Fetish" because I like came to it so late in my kink experience. I'm not sure. I think maybe because I like came up in like old guard leather where it was like leather, like the power of like wearing this like animal that's been like passed down through like your leather lineage always felt so interesting to me. And also I don't—I wouldn't say that I find latex comfortable. I find the like containment to be like an interesting sensation that I... can then eroticize, but it was—I also have a slight latex allergy, so this is me indulging my, my—

You too?

Yeah, I can't wear—I can't use latex condoms at all. You know, I get really red. So we suffer for our pleasure. That's the marker of a sadomasochist.

I'm good. I think it was like some combination of those things that I was like, "I probably shouldn't like be encased like I can't put latex inside me; I probably shouldn't be encased like head to toe in latex," but like, what doesn't a Benadryl fix, you know?

Like a little…

You look iconic, you look beautiful.

Thank you. I think there is something that's so fun about latex that like takes you out of the human, like the way it's been used in like fashion and cinema and like the iconography of superheroes and just like—and monsters, you know, like of the like monstrous feminine and how—I don't know, I think it like takes away—I love seeing submissives in latex as well, like just like completely anonymous and like just like an inky black void for me to like project my desire onto them. I don't know, it's like, yeah, it's like dehumanizing but in an empowering, like not necessarily like a humiliating way, which I feel like they often go hand in hand.

Okay, so you got your first catsuit and just… So it was… Like what was it about it that made you be like… Because I feel like latex can be a fetish, it can be like a lifestyle, it can be something you wear for sexy reasons, can be something you wear for like fashion reasons, and… It makes sense to me that so much of your content is in latex, if that's like what you feel like happiest and most comfortable with. I'm wondering if you could talk like a little bit more about like what, what that is, like how people respond to you in latex. Does it shift something about how you carry yourself?

I think with the latex, so after my first piece, I was like, "Okay, I'm probably gonna go pretty balls deep with the collection." And then the more latex I got, the more people started funding more latex. And then it's almost like a phenomenon. The more latex I wear, the more people want to see me in latex. And then I'm like… You know, I'm budgeting out like a certain amount of money every month to like fund the latex, and then I have my subs buying, you know, me more latex, and honestly, the number can't talk, but the number one comment that I've gotten with latex and how it's so popular with subs is from superheroes. Like the Black Widow, like the shiny, like… Those suits are, I think, a big trigger for them. And then thinking back, because I'm a huge nerd, I can definitely understand that. And so whenever I put on the suits, I do feel like a totally different person. I feel like I am Goddess Gabrielle. I feel like I am not the real version of me, but probably the version that 13-year-old me would be like, "Wow, you're so cool." Like, like, like…

Well, I think that's—I think that's so true of like… the like persona that we curate. I feel like subs are so like—like I either like—I wanna know the real you. And I feel like part of at least how I approach like relating to my persona is that it's very much a part of me. It's like the best parts of me and like the worst parts of me transmuted into the best parts of me, you know, like my—I got the name Mistress Blunt because I was told I had the subtlety of a metaphoric sledgehammer, which I feel like I've gone through a path where I'm like, "Okay, maybe I need to be nicer, or maybe people aren't ready to hear these truths that I so easily see," to being like, "No, actually, I think that was the appropriate approach, and people just need to catch up." But I do feel like it gives kind of a container to explore different aspects of yourself in ways that like… you know, as like a human who needs like to sleep and to eat and to feed themselves and to like shower and like, you know, like be involved in their communities or with families. Like that's not necessarily the part that we're bringing to like the fantasy. And so I feel like the transformation of like… And the ritual of getting dressed, whether it's in latex or lingerie or heels or boots or whatever makes you feel like that most powerful version of yourself. I feel like it's a really powerful transformation.

I do too. And I also love your name. I think it's very dommey, like Mistress Blunt, like I'm blunt. Like I love it. Great name.

Used to smoke a lot more weed, so it came definitely had like a double entendre to it.

Yeah. Okay. And so what another thing that we also talked about talking about a little bit was about like religious play, blasphemy, and catharsis. And I would love to know a little bit about like your relationship to religion and how you incorporate it into play. Are you okay with a little trauma boop? Not a dump, but like a boop.

Okay. So I grew up very Southern Christian, very much so "pray the gay away," "pray the depression away." For me, and I'm comfortable talking about this, I still suffer with anxiety and depression, but I had pretty severe issues growing up. You're in puberty, and then you're mentally ill, and you know, whatever. But my family was just always, you know, "God's the answer, God's the answer." And I remember sitting in my bedroom and praying to God to like cure me, to make me not like girls, to—to not be the person that I am, and nobody came. And then—and then around sophomore year of high school, I started thinking for myself, and I saved myself by being myself. I've never felt so like something had a hold on me and then it let go the moment that I was like, "I can't change who I am. I don't wanna change who I am. I wanna be the best versions of myself, but me being bisexual, pan, queer, that's not something wrong with me. That's not something to fix." Regardless of the standards of my family, this is who I am. And because I was so down bad for Jesus, I was so down bad for Jesus. Whenever I started kink, taking it seriously, I started using, once again, kink and stuff to heal my inner child, and and now it's like completely turned—I do—I've done like Church of GG streams—I do—I just released a clip that's called "Salvation," and that like, you know, you need to be like following a goddess who like who you can indulge in temptation and you can be yourself and like without judgment—like it's very healing for me.

I fucking love it, and I will do it forever.

I love that. I feel like it's so powerful to—first of all, thank you for sharing that. I appreciate your vulnerability, and I, in hearing you talk about it too, and in like, even in the honorific that you chose for yourself and like thinking about you being like young and praying to God and then becoming… like in touch with like that divine spark in yourself and like the persona, Goddess Gabrielle. It's like, I can see you like saving yourself from that. And I feel like it's missing from so much religion that like that it like takes you away from your own power and like agency to get you to conform. And I feel like there's something incredibly like powerful and cathartic in that like reclamation of like that individual part of you that is—that has access to like that divinity. And I think that's really beautiful.

Thank you. I get kind of emotional when I think about it, the progression from then to now. I love the religious play. It is very healing for me every time. Every time I do something, it's very healing.

I love that I like have to look really close to see if you're wearing a cross or a chastity key around your neck.

It's—it's a key—it's like the Tiffany key—one of my subs got it for me—I love it. I wear it all the time. It's very good. Okay, so was a third variable, which is even better. Keys though. I—the keys to all the cages in my workroom. Like wearing the Tiffany's one though, it's like symbolic but doesn't look—doesn't need to look like—and subtle for like everyday vanilla life.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. I feel like something I think a lot about is how our like histories and traumas inform our kinks and the way that society like tries to tell us that it's not okay. I'm thinking of—and the way that like—I'm thinking of the book, *Gender Without Identity*, by Ann Pellegrini and Avgi Saketopoulou, which—it's like a theory—like a short, dense theory book about psychoanalysis and gender and like how—people should read it because I'm gonna totally distill it down to nothing, but basically that trauma can inform gender, trauma can inform sexuality, and that like—that's fine when it's for cis or straight people, but when it's for like queer or trans people, it becomes problematized by society. And I think that one of the like reframes in the book that I find so useful is that like whether or not one of our desires comes from trauma is much less interesting of a question than like what do we do with that? And I feel like it's so interesting to take blasphemy play as like the answer of like, "Well, like this is incredibly like potent for me. And I'm going to play with it because I think play can be like so—so cathartic." And I think also like so many—I can imagine many people like finding like peace and solace in the Church of Gabrielle with like—with what you're offering in your ministry because I feel like so many people experience similar like—like traumas and like similar restraints. And I feel like it is… where a lot of shame and humiliation and many of the things that we play with in BDSM come from, whether or not you're growing up like super religious or just under like Christo-fascist patriarchy in the States or around the world. My—like it was so bad. Like my grandpa won't eat Oreos because they made a rainbow Oreo. Like embarrassing. And I eat Oreos all the time. But…

Gosh. Yes. You doing an Oreo humiliation clip.

But yeah, I don't know. It's so interesting to me. Like I don't know, the question of like what do we do with our—our trauma? And I think it's like present in so much of the content that we make and also like why the mommy domme archetype of that like slightly humiliating but like also like very nurturing archetype is also so powerful even like in what you were talking and about your approach to like blas—like blasphemy and in your church. It's like—"Like I accept you for being such a fucking degenerate pervert; I'm like, 'Let's go. Let's go. Me all the dinner. You have to come to my bosom. I'll…"

Well, I love that you found something that really works for you and that is so cathartic. I do feel like whether it's religion, through the constraints of religion, constraints of gender, I don't know, forced… I feel like forced bi clips are such an interesting… example of this, of whether or not like the person is gay, if they are bi, whether they like really do want to suck a dick, whether they need the domme to encourage them for like it to triangulate into an erotic experience, or they are like denying part of their sexual, you know—it like to me it doesn't always matter as long as people are questioning it and like interested in what they're doing with those desires because I feel like we are taught to shut them down.

Yeah, I think we give people space to find out who they are, like especially like with societal norms, like I think that we—we do like a—like a humane service for some people, like giving them a safe space to figure out who they are, like the forced bi stuff, like a lot of people probably fetishize it. But for some people, like it—it might be the—they need to like even have the conversation exactly what you're saying.

Yeah, I've found that a lot in my… I've done a lot of like… I've called it gender play rather than sissification. I think like I'll use the key terms because I want people to find me. But like in how I like write about gender play, I don't do a ton of very specific humiliation with it. And I'm like, "If you're humiliated by this, like let's use that as like a fertile seed." And I think because of that, I've had a lot of people who are like questioning their gender or have like a flexible relationship with their gender or like understand gender to be like largely a social construct and most people are somewhere on a continuum of gender and like less confined, and I've had a lot of people like explore their gender with me through the context of BDSM and like gender play and sissification clips, and I find it—I—I wonder what part is like the gentle mommy encouragement and like less hard humiliation that like separate, right? Because I think there's many reasons to be into something—like you're questioning your gender. You think being a woman is submissive. So like getting in touch with your feminine side like allows you to submit, or like you do have like thoughts and ideas about your gender and want to explore that. But yeah, I don't know, I agree with you. I think there's so much space given to be given for people to explore in that way.

Yeah, and I feel like for everybody it's so individualistic with their journey, like exactly what you're saying. Like some people find it humiliating to be considered like a sissy. Some people find it liberating. They're like, "Maybe this is like a step towards like, you know, like on my trans journey." You know, I feel like it's so individualistic for everybody. And the best part in my opinion is that beyond consensual safe play, there's no moral codebook to practice BDSM because everybody's on their own individual journey for different reasons. They want to play a different way—a certain way that is molded completely to cater to them and what they need. So yeah, I love that.

I have to grab a charger, I have a thought on that.

Okay.

Okay, so I love this idea of like—I don't know if it's quite what you said, but of like individual ethics. And I actually like—right, there's like safe, sane, and consensual, risk-aware kink, and then I think like—I think it's like time to move like slightly beyond that because I think like when we think about risk, we're often not talking about like the emotional risk of the things that can come up in like intimate relationships or when you're being vulnerable that like you could never anticipate. And so I think—I don't even—I don't know that I have the language for it, but it's sort of like being open to what happens when we do risky things and like not just being like, "Okay, like I accept that like harm might happen," but being like—"Like what rupture is necessary?" Like kind of like stepping into the wound and being like, "What can come from this?" Like, "Sure, there might be like opportunities for repair, potentially not, but that like edge and boundary being like what's—what I find like incredibly interesting and like the most profound, like transformative scenes. And I… like the idea of like us being our own moral agents of like—and playing with people who have similar ethos and like ethics behind what they're interested in doing.

Yeah, like I feel like we—I feel like we have our own moral compasses. And I also feel like that moral compass is dictated by like, you know, you and whoever you're playing with. Like, so—and, you know, that's just like where communication is like key. And sometimes you—you aren't prepared for like a reaction; you can prepare in every way possible. But then, you know, this thing happens or like they have this emotional reaction like neither one of you could have prepared for that. And then it's just navigating from there. So yeah, I agree.

Yeah, I think about a lot this situation I had when I was playing with someone and we had like a very heavily—it was films—had like a very heavily negotiated scene, and then I either—I think I said something that was within bounds, or I think it was—I took my hand off to put it on someone else, and it just like—they might now share that that's something that would not feel great in the context of a scene, but they would have had no knowledge of that prior to it. So it's like—both in that rupture, there's space to like learn about yourself. And also I think it's so important when like negotiating scenes and that like being prepared for the unexpected emotionally and like what I like to ask like… you know, like, "What do we do when something comes up?" Like not "if" it does, because it's just—if—I don't know, I think if you're doing good play and like seeking, you know, transformation, like something is gonna come up if you're like really in touch with yourself.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah. Yeah, and I don't think, you know, like for me, it's never the thing that I thought it would be, you know, like it's never something I would have thought to tell someone. I've had one time kind of similar to that, where like a reaction that this sub had—a reaction that we both weren't expecting. And we just kind of navigate it from there. It's kind of—it's kind of crazy. Like once again, how healing or triggering BDSM can be. Sometimes the reactions are random. Like I love what you said, how healing or triggering too, because I feel like they're not necessarily like mutually exclusive if you're able to like navigate it to or like be seen and held in that trigger. I—yeah. I don't think it had—I think BDSM can also just be horny and perverted and have no transformative impact on someone's life other than getting you off and feeling amazing in that way. But I also do think for people who are interested in going a step deeper, there really is… I don't know, I think it can either be like a fun, sexy modality or just like… or a way to get to know yourself better.

Yeah, yeah, some people just need their balls hit to cum, and that is what it is. There's no story behind it; it's just hot.

Exactly. Or they don't want to know the story behind it. And they don't need to for it to be erotic, you know?

I keep telling this story, but I was chatting with someone on my fan site. And like, I think because I come from like a lifestyle background, really value and like… Like, you know, like I have personal submissives. I have like people doing service in every aspect of my life from like cleaning my house to like working on my search engine optimization to like a sub who's my tailor and just like have like a beautiful like harem of submissives who are like very, very, very useful. My God. I don't know where I was going with this. What did we say right before? Maybe I'm just bragging. Okay, I found it. Okay. Thank you for bearing with me. Okay. And so because I like have this lifestyle background where I like—like to like extract the use from people and like my expertise is in submissive training more so than like a specific like fetish, when someone was chatting with…

Me, on my fan site, I was trying to get to know them and like have a personal connection with them, and he goes, “Excuse me, ma’am, I’m just trying to jerk off.” I’m like, “Okay, okay, I forgot, my bad.” He’s like, “This is a Wendy.” It’s really funny. I was like, “You’re right, you’re right, okay. Yeah, I get it.” Yeah, but I was like, “I’m so interested in the D/s connection and the dominance and submission more so than like, like, it becomes erotic for me through power exchange and through like, actual power exchange.”

And I think one of the ways that happens in something else we talked about chatting about is financial domination and the role that plays in our practice. For me, financial domination is like one of the ways to make power most concrete. And I’m curious like how you play with femdom and findom and like how you see them being related, different, or integrated into your domination practice.

So I think the origin and the intensity of financial domination stems from, once again, societal standards. The more money you have, the more successful people in society’s eyes; like a doctor would be more appealing than like a restaurant worker. It’s almost like a… it’s like a tier system. It’s like, where are you in society? And because we have such a strong like hold on the value of money, giving up your money, I think is one of the most powerful forms of power exchange. Think of all the money you have and think about, know, giving it away to somebody. That’s an insane exchange. And I think people, yes, talking like driving it like fits financial domination fits squarely in religious blasphemy play. In my streams, I literally like add to my offering plate, like, you know, “send it all.” Like it’s, yeah. So yeah, I think I think financial domination is one the most powerful things, forms of a power exchange and femdom whatever it’s…

When you like first got acquainted with Findom? Or like had like your first?

Um, so it was whenever I started taking the online stuff more seriously, and so I had a sub and he would, you know, tip me like very often, and that wasn’t abnormal. Um, but he was like, “you know, I want, um, like tell me how much you want.” And I was like, “okay.” And I was like, “go get me the, um, TV off of my wishlist,” and then he did it, and I was like, it was like a $600 TV. Then I was like, “okay.” And then I, and then because of that, I started promoting on like my Twitter; like I would screenshot people sending me money. And then I want to say within the past two years, my, my foothold in financial domination has gotten a lot more extreme. Like it’s very direct. It’s very direct domination. You know, “if you want access to me, you have to spend.” Like we are a luxury to have; like we’re not a need, we’re not the toothbrush in your bathroom; like we are a luxury. And so it’s like the more it kept happening, the more I’m almost like addicted to it. I’m almost like addicted to the fetish. Do you need a Findom addiction clip stream? I’m being reactive right now. I’m like, “need it. I need to sin right now.” Yeah.

Love that framing too of like, I feel like there’s a way that… like, I don’t know, it’s like that professional domination is also like the performance of a submissive’s desires rather than like a manifestation of like a conglomerate of like also like our desires. And so like hearing you talk about it, like, you know, like of feeling that same frenzied state is like how I’ve also described it with my submissives of like, you know, just like… someone might enter like a flow state when they’re sending to me like that same hot like I’m getting that same high and that same dopamine hit, and I think it’s it’s both one of the most like tangible forms of power exchange and I like what you were talking about like, you know, we do live in a capitalist society where money dictates so much and I… when I talk about findom I’m also like, is, FIND, financial domination is the only exchange in a D/s dynamic that I can think of where I actually walk away from the situation with more power than I started. So, and so the, the power exchange is like made concrete by the transaction where even like, you know, in, if I’m, like kicking someone in the balls repetitively and like they are feeling very disempowered, I’m feeling very powerful in that situation. Nothing has been changed or transformed outside of that play in that space and like someone… like understanding what their place is in my life. But when I leave the dungeon, nothing has… I don’t want to say that it’s not meaningful. It can be like emotionally meaningful or like spiritually meaningful or like incredibly connective to have that type of experience with someone. But the material realities of my life have not changed unless there is a monetary exchange or someone is… that’s why I also like service because I think that service is a way to engage in shifting the material realities of someone’s life, if they’re not in a position to engage regularly in financial domination. But I just, I’m interested in power. And so without power, I find play quite uninteresting. And yeah, I… Yeah, and you talking about like, you know, like getting to see like someone sending you like that $600 TV and then you have that TV in your house and you think about it and you post about it and then more people are excited to send to you. It makes you feel kind of drunk. Yeah, like it’s it’s intoxicating like beyond like the financial or materialistic gain of financial domination like you… I once again it it turns me on it… makes it enriches my life adds value to my life and takes away that value from them the power exchange I think it’s so hot. I have an Amex card of one of my subs and I… even just getting a $5 coffee, I’m like, “yeah, bitch.” It’s almost like I’m fucking them right there. You know what I’m saying?

I do, it is, and I think that’s why BDSM can be so powerful because it can turn this mundane experience of going to get coffee that you do every day and take it out of the everyday and transform it into this spiritual connection. I have one of my subs’ cards and I have a little… sticker for it that has a little rubber ducky in bondage in it and whenever I like pay for something with it I get hit on all the time when I use the card which I think he would appreciate of knowing if people be like like, “I really like that card,” like… and… yeah, just like they you know they should know… yeah, I just… I think it is an interesting way of like infusing someone into those every day actions of service as well. Yeah, like it’s a big form of service submission, power exchange. It hits a lot of boxes. And it’s also just people who are like truly into the sending of money, like it really does turn them on. I’ve seen like, like beyond my frenzy and greed, like seeing their reactions to being like, “look at this sexy number goddess, look at this one.” And you know, it’s just, it’s sweet and sexy. And I definitely… yeah, wholesome, I orgasm so hard to sends.

And I do feel like I’m happy you’re saying that because I feel like despite Femdom being like based on like the supposed pleasure of women, it’s so often about like the orgasm of a submissive. And so I think like when we are able to engage in activities that like really touch something for us and like are really arousing for us, it’s so exciting. And I think like our subs… know, you know, like if it’s because I have that same experience, like I want to, you know, like my phone, like the cash app notification, like my phone vibrates with it too. So like if you’re sending and sending, like it’s like almost like a vibrator, it like totally transforms my phone into this other device and this like erotic device. That’s a hot POV. Should film a POV like that? See, I’m telling you, it just goes like… it… Yeah, because I like, I totally could cum from enough… enough if it was coming in enough. I do have a feeling that the payment processors would interfere… would like cock block me. But that’s something… do you have this experience to you? I’m like, in the middle of something really hot. I’m like jerking off and like getting all these sends and demanding more and like just feeling like greedier and greedier and like wanting like the more and more of it all. And then all of sudden they’re like, “my bank.” And I’m like, “fuck your bank.” Yes, yes, that has happened a couple times and every time it happens I’m just like, it almost kills the vibe. Like it almost completely kills the vibe. I know, like you need to transform it because then you have to call your bank and like, don’t get them involved. I do think it’s an interesting point in the exchange too, because it’s also like a notification that it’s gone past the point of your regular spending. It’s gone past the point of what your bank has determined you should be spending your money on. And then you have to go past that barrier… to continue the exchange. So I think it can be like a type of bondage, but it is like… I feel like a tech bondage, which can be hard to navigate when you’re like jerking off… total science is a type of bondage. Like I’d be jerking off all on the phone with your bank… very very complicated.

Do you like… okay… do you see Femdom without findom? Like I guess like what is the relationship between the two for you and now that you’ve been doing it and like you said like you have like more of a foothold in financial domination like… and like, right, like as we like progress in our career, like the barrier to entry gets higher, which I feel like is not quite findom, but is, can be like erotically related.

Can you repeat the question?

I guess just like, do you see Femdom without findom? Like what?

No, I don’t think so. I think for lifestylers, I know that there is this like kind of divide… like this like this kind of like a war between pro dommes and like lifestylers… usually like some lifestylers don’t believe that you should make any sort of money off of BDSM and… student… yeah. I don’t get that at all because sex work is literally the oldest job of all time. Also in like BDSM leather communities, so much of the relationships and like were like funded by like queer and trans sex working people. So the fact that it’s like there, it’s so like… I know exactly what you’re talking about of that like old guard. I’m gonna say like cis white dude who is also like… the… how do I know you’re really into it if you’re getting paid or like how do I know this is really what you want rather than I actually want to surrender power and this is an area where I have power to surrender. Yeah, it’s really disappointing to see the divide. Think I got off topic a little bit. I genuinely do not think that you can have femdom without like financial domination, honestly. Even if it’s not necessarily a service that you provide or participate in often, in order for you to be a pro, you kind of have to kind of be making money. And I think that even the act, even though paying for services is not the same as financial domination, the financial aspect of it, I think is once again a power exchange; you’re paying for your needs to be met. Let’s say like you’re, you want a no strings attached dynamic, or you don’t have the opportunities right now for like play all the time. So you visit this one girl once a month. You know what I mean? Like I think it… the paying for the service is is a type of power exchange and and that’s money so I don’t think that you can have… this is my opinion… what do you think?

Feel pretty similarly to you and I think it’s like… I am uninterested in power exchange where someone is just going through the motions of performing the surrendering of power to me. So something that I do a lot in my submissive training, I love giving people findom fetishes. I think one of my skills as a domme is like instilling my fetishes in other people and like getting them… I have on my blog like, this like 7,000 words on financial domination. It’s like my manifesto, my treaties, like my magnum opus. And really the TLDR is like, “this is why you should be into financial domination.” And I love doing that work because I feel like it is so taboo, right? It’s so taboo, right? Men are like taught that they should be afraid of the woman, the trophy… the trophy wife or the gold digger or the woman who’s like just going after them for the money. And I think it can be cathartic to like flip that and just completely surrender to it. And I think it can also be cathartic to like understand why that’s so vilified because women are supposed to be kept as meek. Women are supposed to be subservient. Like you are supposed to be controlling women. And when women have access to these financial resources, they need to be vilified so that they can be controlled. I feel like this goes back to what we’re talking about religion too. And I’m thinking of, I’m doing research right now, so I’ve been reading a lot of theory, but of Silvia Federici’s work, ‘Wages Against Housework’, and like the talking of compensation for women’s labor and reproductive labor that is largely expected to be free. And so I think, Femdom, maybe not financial domination, but femdom cannot happen for me without actual power exchange. Otherwise I’m just performing for someone’s fantasy. For me, especially like when I’m playing with someone online, I think that financial exchange is one of the most concrete ways of playing with power that someone can feel like the ramifications and the impact… of my power over them as well as like surrendering like as you’re saying like to like the offering plate like passed around and like tithe and yeah… I’m interested in that power exchange and having people eager to surrender so I’m not like… I don’t need… go ahead… yeah… like I don’t need people… I don’t need submissives who get off every time they send to me or understand themselves to have a financial domination fetish or like… I don’t always pursue financial domination with like the intention to like ruin someone or like completely like wipe them out. Like I actually really enjoy sustainable dynamics. And I think people often think of findom… which I do actually do this less often… of like the send send send send send send until you have nothing left. I think it can be like a hot exchange, but I also, as I said from my trying to get to know people on my fansites and them being like, “what the fuck are you doing?” I’m interested in like ongoing, ongoing relationships so I think… for me, has to be, so they don’t have to like get off anytime they send me something. They’re like, that’s a bonus if I can convince them that they should, but they do need to be invested in my success and invested in their surrender. And so if there’s other ways for them to do that, I’m open, but it is one of the most profound ways.

Exactly, I agree because you can’t really serve if you don’t have selfless desires. If you’re not willing to sacrifice, I don’t think that you’re in a position to serve, to truly serve like a goddess or a Mistress or whoever. I like the word sacrifice there a lot because I think that is what financial domination is like at its core is like the greed, the desires and the like worship of a domme through that sacrifice and surrender, which is really religious. Like I feel like the religious and findom, feel like part of what’s… so fun about it for me is that it subverts so many of these cultural norms where I can like demand not only compensation but like a continual more and more of like desire and resources and abundance in this way that I’ve been taught not to.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you hit it on the head. And I find that like, I don’t know if empowering is the right word, but hot definitely is. Okay, and so, okay, so we’ve talked about, I feel like we’ve done a lot in this, which maybe is great because it hits, I feel like we’re both like deeply in our pervert zone and like have so much interest. And I think my last question is we talked a little bit about like, Homewrecking fantasies, so I feel like we’ve talked about like the nurturing mommy domme, the sensual sadist, the like Findom, the like religious blasphemy play and then there’s like this more Mean archetype, this like ruinous archetype, and I’m curious a little bit about that.

I just finished shooting a homewrecking series… I feel like I leaned too deeply into my like nurturing mommy domme that like my incredibly evil like bitchy self of like a “want to ruin your life and like fuck you up forever” got kind of tainted so I was like, “okay, we need balance,” but I’m curious what that’s like for you… This was the question that I was most nervous about. Also, I, so I’ve done home wrecking clips, I’ve done home wrecking fantasy sessions, but I’ve never, ever, ever crossed the line of from fantasy to reality. And I see a lot of girls and men and theys and thems and I’ve seen… a lot of people in the community post screenshots of, you know, texting someone’s spouse. And it’s so hard because like I don’t do domme wrecking or anything like that. Like I’ll say like elitist stuff for the brand, but I’m very much so like, “if you need me, I’m here, whatever I can do to help you,” because people, you know, people helped me and… so like when I think of home wrecking, it’s usually because of the client base men, which most of them are with women, a lot of them anyway. And then I think like, “fuck, like I do have sometimes like a moral qualm with myself of like, yes, I can’t help if like a married person comes around and sessions with me. But sometimes like if they’re wanting a very like intense like home wrecking, like fantasy stuff, sometimes I will turn them down, especially like if they’re like wanting me to like incognito like email their girlfriend or… it kind of makes, yes. And it kind of, it kind of makes me feel bad and it makes me scared. But I also find the fantasy pretty hot too, to like almost isolate… almost like a emotional isolation, like bondage or something, like isolating a sub to like, to truly like dedicate their whole lives to me regardless of the consequences. Like I also like that too. So I just kind of go back and forth on that.

Yeah, I get that. I feel like it’s interesting where like fantasy rubs up with like your own moral compass. I have no issue with it, but I also don’t like… I’m also never going to involve someone’s partner in something. Like I’m not going to like, if that doesn’t feel consensual to me. I feel like I also like my earliest exploration of kink was like, teasing men with girlfriends to the point where I’d have them pinned against a wall and them begging to fuck me just so I could get them to admit that they would cheat on their girlfriend with me and then I’d leave. I didn’t know what I was doing. It was really an… I didn’t know what I was doing… was like, or have language around like, tease and denial, but because of the boundary of girlfriend that I was going to… I was gonna respect that whether or not they would… not that I always did, but most of the time. It added this layer of bondage within it and restraint that allowed me to have a lot of fun there. I don’t know, I recently shot a homewrecking series that was really fun. And it’s not something that I would do in real life… of I’m having them put in AirPods during sex and it’s… like, well, so they can like listen to the sound of my voice while they’re fucking their wife. And like, if they do, that’s on them. I think people like need to like be responsible for what their actions are. And while you might need to ruin your marriage and fuck up your life, like you’re the only one with the power to do that, especially because like, I’m not gonna be speaking to your wife unless she is reaching out to me.

Such a hot video by the way. I’m like very inspired. Yeah. Like the fantasy, like everything you’re saying, sexy. The reality is where it scares me. Like if they show up at my front door and they’re like, “I left her,” I’m like, “who are you?” Like I think I would just… that’s where it gets me. But I love the concept. I love the fantasy. It is hot. And I have one sub right now who’s like, “why am I…”

Into, you know, who's like questioning like why they might be into it? And like, it's like, it's just a fantasy. Like, I'm like, we're allowed to have fantasies that like, we don't want to happen. Like I think, right, like just like what I was talking about, like the gender play and people approaching for like all of the, you know, like maybe you just think it's hot to like jerk off in panties, like, and there's nothing else to see here or like.

Maybe you think it's hot to think about like this aspect of your life being like completely like ruined and destroyed by this powerful force that like you don't have the power to make the changes you want in your life. So the only thing that you can like focus on and fantasize about is this like external power coming in and like wreaking destruction on your life in a way that you'll see like will free you.

And I think for a lot of people, it doesn't necessarily mean that their relationship is bad for them. And I think it gives people like this feeling of like, like, does this mean like, I like hate my wife or like, does this mean that I hate my partner or something like that that I'd fantasize about that? You know, like it can, like there's a reason for the fantasy, but the fantasy is often not necessarily like the thing you actually want to happen. There's a reason you're fantasizing about it.

And again, I think it comes back to like, oh, like, well, what are you going to do with that information? Like, are you going to make steps to make your marriage better? Or are you just going to keep buying my content and blaming your wife for the issues in your relationship? Yeah. It's, I need to know, outside of the video, I need to know, is homewrecking something that you like, consider you specialize in, like the fantasy?

You know, I think this might be my first homewrecking clip series I've made, but like it goes back to like my very like roots of kink. So I think I like, I got off my path and I need to like get back on the straight and narrow. Gonna buy all of them. I'm gonna buy all of them. This is inspiring me to make one of my early chaos that I would muster. Because it was, I had no search terms to look up the kink that I was interested in, because I had no idea. It was just the distillation of power that I could see with the restraint, with the girlfriend as bondage, kind of. So they would kind of... be trying to say no and I could like watch their resolve like slowly go away over and over again until like I either got what I wanted or could like like no thanks I just wanted to know that you would fuck me like I just wanted to know you would ruin your relationship for me that is one of the hottest things I've ever heard actually. I'm flattered. I'm flattered. I was so young and evil. I love it. We need more. I asked the question. You almost got away without having to answer, but it is interesting when they like, I don't know when like.

I think of it kind of like I'll make an ex-exec- I can't even say the word executionary. Exec- do you know what the word I'm trying to say? Like I'm gonna kill you domme. I don't know that I can say that but. I've been exploring that recently. One of my subs probably for about a year now. I've been doing a lot of private sessions of that kink. It's hot and it's like, am I gonna do it? Like, I don't wanna go to jail. Like, no, thank you. But, or like so many fantasies don't need to become reality. And I feel like people get caught up in that of like, you know, like what does it mean if I want this rather than like, I want this. Like, what am I going to, what am I gonna do with that, which sounds like hiring like a hot domme to explore your like death drive is the way to go.

Yeah, one of my clients is very into like the poison ivy, like kiss of death kind of thing. Like dark lipstick, like the lipstick has poison in it I'm to poison you. You know, I feel like I've learned something new every day. Like I never stop learning. I never stop evolving. And I never stop being turned on by all of this like weird shit that the subs bring up to me. And I'm like, okay, I think I could maybe be into that. Like it's fun.

Yeah, I think it's fun when like, people can convince each other this thing is, is hot, like not even like persuade them, but just like their desire is so like, potent and exciting that like, you know, it's contagious. It's like, like I wasn't into that before, but like seeing how into that you were did something for me that like moved me to relate to it kind of differently. Yeah. And I feel this that way in this conversation. It was so lovely to chat with you and get to know you a little bit better. And I just love meeting fellow perverts who are like in it for the, you know, for the perversion. This has been, I couldn't have asked for a better first interview experience. So thank you so much. This has been great. Thank you to chat with you.

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