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The Joe Rogan Experience. This just happened. Uh, we just found out that Charlie Kirk got shot. It's [ __ ] awful. And is he dead? No, I don't think so. That's what was just one of the guys out there just said confirmed in the lobby was just I was looking I've been looking. I haven't seen anything that said confirmed. Whoa. Murder for having a different opinion from somebody else. Yeah. Different ideology from somebody else. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Beliefs that didn't align. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. Rest in peace. [ __ ] news. Jesus. 27 years old, maybe. 30. Do they even have a a suspect? I don't know. That's why I don't I don't I'm literally trying to track it all on Twitter and it's all [ __ ] [ __ ] Nobody deserves He doesn't deserve that. Nobody deserves that.
So So were you saying that MSNBC had the crazy take on it? What was their take? I'm literally just reading Twitter, so I didn't see the video. I just saw people talking about tweets of it. I'll pull it up, though. [ __ ] And even now they could have taken it down. It was a tweet or a video. I don't I so I don't I don't I'm you know I'm doing the show while I'm trying to figure out. Right. No, I understand. Uh I think they were live on the air and people clipped the what they were talking about. It's not a tweet. It's not on their Twitter account or anything. So it's someone's hot take so in the live in the moment. Yeah, that's a crazy take. Crazy take is that what was the take that they deserved it? I don't. That's why I didn't want to par, right? Here you go. Um, Dave Porto reposted this. You found it. All right. Here. Put it. It's only 10 seconds. A shooting like this happens. You can put the headphones on. You can hear. Yeah. Again, emphasize what you just emphasized. We don't know any the full details of this that we don't know if this was a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration or so we have no idea about that's what that's what the crazy thing was. Oh, that's it. Yeah. If it was a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration. What? Someone shot their gun off in celebration and killed him. You know, you shoot celebration guns in the air. Oh god. Just uh what a crazy take. Like it might not have been someone assassinating someone for the wrong opinion. Huh? [ __ ] Why does something like that have to be spun? Their ideology. No, I know. But I'm just saying it's like I mean they want to try to pin it on a Trump supporter with a a crazy Trump supporter with a gun going wacky. We don't know if it was a supporter shooting off a gun in celebration cuz you know they do. A lot of folks are just constantly out there shooting off guns at large gatherings in celebration. Yeah. Fourth of July, you can't leave your house. You know what the [ __ ] No, that is um that that that's a wow.
There's going to be a lot of people celebrating this. It's so scary. It's so dangerous to to to celebrate or to in any way encourage this kind of behavior from human beings. He's not a violent guy who's talking talking to people on college campuses. Wasn't even particularly rude. Who's tried to be pretty reasonable with people? Everything I saw seemed reasonable. He's very intelligent guy. You know, whether you agree with him or don't, and there's a lot of stuff that I didn't agree with him on, that's fine. You're you're allowed to disagree with people without celebrating the fact they got shot. But you can't disrespect his passion. Yeah. Well, what you're supposed to do with a guy like that if you're opposing him is debate him, right? Have a conversation where your your argument is more compelling than his. Sure. That's what people should be celebrating, discourse. You know, we used to do that. do some homework and and bring it to the table. Yeah. Yeah. It's horrible. It's horrible. This podcast has been a lot about violence, man. It has, but not this kind. No, I I'm sorry. Not not um something so in the moment right now from someone this currently current. Yeah. that that that we see and and are are you know aware of daily. Right. Yeah. I mean he's one of those young influencers right this time from the right who is uh all over social media always doing these various shows and debating people and talking to people and giving speeches and Sure. Yeah. No one deserves this, folks. No one that has different opinions. No one deserves that. No. This is horrible. No. But I know people are going to celebrate it cuz this is a [ __ ] up time and people have really fallen into this trap of us against them. But it's also going to make people not want to be as courageous or not want to be as as as as forthright with with the things they believe. It's going to it's going to put people on guard. It could it also could it could do the opposite. I I I get that. But there's also going to be that sort of ingrained thing now. You're correct. Yeah. And you know, and just go, you know, going through the whole New York thing, I just, you know, sometimes you're, you know, there's a, there's a crowd and it's all love. It's all love and all they want is, you know, is is your signature or a photo or this and that. But there's so much of those moments where you're spent looking down. Mhm. You're looking down the entire time. Yeah. And I I don't think anybody wants to shoot me. I don't I don't think that that's kind of out in the world, right? Um but it just it's it's the type of [ __ ] that just lives in in in the back of one's mind. Yeah. Because how could it not? How could it not? And then and then a thing like today and you're like, "Okay, that that's why it's in it's it's in the back of our minds." Yeah.
You know, well, it's, you know, when we were talking about assassinations earlier, whether it's Kennedy or RFK or, you know, you think of them in the past, you think of them like you don't when something happens in the the current like right now with this one with Charlie Kirk, it doesn't seem real. No, it seems very surreal. It does. It does. It seems like it does. It's gonna take a long time before we reference this as some something that happened. Like he Oh, remember he got shot and killed? Oh yeah. Like right now it's just doesn't seem real. It seems uh it seems so crazy that it just it's not registering. It's not. No. Is is is he a friend? No. Uh I met him once. I met him once at a gun range of all places. Wow. Um Wow. Yeah. Uh he was a nice guy um when I met him. Wow. It's a [ __ ] up time. People are so divided in this country. So divided. And there's so many people that love it. They love that we're divided and they profit off that division and they stoke the fires and and they do it for their own profit. And it's so [ __ ] gross. It's so gross. And to encourage this kind of thing is really one of the most horrific things that you could do after someone dies horribly like this is celebrate. It's it's it's it's it's un should be a wakeup call for everybody. Like this is nuts. This is nuts. No, it's it's it's unforgivable that that that to spend things like that. cuz the people they're never thinking about is is is that person's family. I think they're just that's just like default with those. They gaslight you by default, right? So immediately they try to find some reason why the whatever the the thing is that's in the news is someone else's fault, right? Of course, it's just all gaslighting. And that's what they're paid to do. They're paid propagandists masquerading as the news. So weird. [ __ ] No, this is a this it's a it's a dark day. Yeah, it is. Well, one of thing two things is going to happen. Either people are going to realize how [ __ ] insane this is and we have to have a conversation about being able to have conversations, right? Or it's going to get a lot worse. That's what's scary. Scary. This could spark off some kind of a real violent conflict. You know, that guy had a lot of fans. Yeah. A lot of people love that guy. Yeah. I know. And if they find out that he got killed for something that they vehemently oppose in the first place, it could send people over the edge. It could. It could. Yeah. There there there's always that flashoint moment in in in in any, you know, in in in previous times like this. Yep. You know, it's there's always that tipping point moment like like the Rodney King film. Yep. Right. Something just like that's it. Yeah. You know, this also highlights um just the little bit of perspective like how lucky Trump is was. Oh, yeah. You know, and it's just like Charlie didn't get the benefit of a head turn or a couple of a couple of microns or millimeters or you know, and it's just like, wow. Wow. Who who who decides that? Yeah. You know, that is just there's this thing. The Trump thing is bananas. Yeah. But they talk about clips his ear. Yeah. Cuz he makes a reference to something and then it's just Yeah. And then it clips his ear where if he didn't turn his head, he'd be dead and it would have been on live on CNN.