What if the MODERN APOSTASY already happened??

be kidding. Recording in progress. Okay. Okay. This is my like avatar hat. That's That's why I always wear it, you know. Hey, that's cool. I thought it was a real one. Yeah. Yeah. It's No, it's not a uh it's not a uh digital. It's real one. But uh all right, let's let's talk about this. Uh um this is uh Ignosio and u he's an definitely a talented influencer online and Ignasio is also expert at scriptures. So uh this is great. Uh we're just going to have a conversation. It's not meant to be like stressful or like too uptight. Like honestly, uh all of this history, we can't go back in time. We can't change it. Whatever it is, the truth, whatever the truth is, it is. So, we're just going to talk about it. Uh anyone that wants to burn the books or stop people from talking about things really are not that's not what God does. God God's main principle is free agency. So, here we are. We have agency and we're talking about it. So the subject is what if the modern apostasy already happened? Um, Ignasio, do you like Iggy Nasio? Chaotic. Well, he called me Iggy Blast. Whatever. Okay. Or Blast. Okay. Yeah, it's cool. I've never called you Blast, but I I see you every week. But anyway, uh so have a look at uh what is your first impression of this like uh uh this first screen?

Well, I really got to say that I agree with it because and and and not just in the LDS, but in all churches, I believe that something either already happened or it's coming to it's pretty much going to happen. I'm not too sure about what your thoughts are on that, D, you know. Yeah, that's what we cover in this video. That's what we're covering. Yeah. So, it's kind of cool. We got to We're just gonna figure out um that's that. All right. So, next screen. Look at this. So, it's interesting. Here's the logic. Okay. If the church of Jesus Christ, the real Jesus Christ church was restored, if it really was restored, then when were the several attempts? You would imagine that the devil is not going to wait year after year until the perfect moment. He's going to be attacking moment by moment from the especially in the beginning before the beginning from day one that Joseph Smith was ever born from day one of everything. This is what sci-fi movies are made of, right? So where where were the several attempts to infiltrate, destroy, corrupt the restored church? Okay, this is I haven't heard anyone talking about this concept like when did when did uh Spencer Kimell throw out the spies that were there, you know, aiming to corrupt the church or when did even Ezra Tapbenson did mention it one time. He said there's more bad people over there in the church office building to watch out for. Kind of like it's already been corrupted. Uh that's an interesting quote. Um, I just heard that a couple of days ago. President Benson knew about some weird stuff, but um, we'll go into it. Where where do I think where do I think it happened and was it successful, you know? Um, yeah, that that is an interesting topic because I was really wanting to know when do you think it happened and like just what do what do pretty much what's your take on it? like even after what you even after what you say you think happened because well I think you and I have touched down on that you know piece that we that we both agree and you know that Joseph Smith was a prophet and he was you know if anything are our latter day prophet but it's like and the Book of Mormon the Book of Mormon rings true like no book I've ever seen or heard I it's still Like that's in fact that's one of my my my moments whenever I hear somebody bashing the Book of Mormon. It's like this is garbage cuz they don't know what they're talking about. I've never heard any reasonable arguments against the Book of Mormon because there isn't any. It will outlast all of us, you know. So that's one of my what's one of my red flags if they're if I understand why people criticize Joseph Smith. But in recent history, recent times like this the last couple years if people are badmouthing Joseph and kind of bunch them into the group that's bashing the Book of Mormon. It's one thing to bash the Mormon church and we're going to get into it like why are people bashing us and can't wait. I can't I I'm trying not to throw out all these curiosity bombs, you know, but but it would it would get everything all all out of order if I start spouting off on all these things.

All right. Second, here's the second um logic. If the church of Jesus Christ was or will be corrupted, then there should be sufficient warning in the scriptures. Right? So, we're not just you and I, Iggy, making this crap up. No. Um, was it or will it be corrupted? Okay. Is it even possible? So, that's the third one. Is it even possible to corrupt the restored church of Jesus Christ before the millennial reign? Is that possible? And and so, I might as well call it out in the beginning. Anybody that wants to put it in the comments, just go ahead and give us the scripture that says it's not possible to corrupt the church before the millennial reign. Uh, I don't think there's a lot of scriptures. I have read one or two scriptures that could be construed that way. Um, but but we'll leave it up to you guys to u post any of these ideas. Is it possible? And is there sufficient warning in the scriptures, you know, for this this um for this possible modern apostasy? So um I don't know if my I'm going to move my screen for a second. Can we find a case for the modern apostasy? That's different than the general apostasy that hap happened after Peter, James, John, all of those guys were killed. That's that's what the LDS church anyway believes happened is there was a general apostasy after that point. Um, and I'm not even going I never even thought to go down that rabbit hole, but I I see some people online going down the general apostasy argument. What did or didn't happen, you know? But I believe it happened. I mean, there was I mean, how was Christ Church here? It was only possible that the Catholic Church is the only one that really had a grip on that. Right. Right. So, uh, but and some people don't even know that it's that there has ever been talk of a modern apostasy. Um, and that's kind of what we're looking at right now. So, um, so, so I've got these red arrows over here. Um, Book of Mormon Bible. So, in the scriptures, is there a case or is there a warning for this modern apostasy? Right. And then I want to talk about besides the scriptures, are there any other legitimate sources of truth where we can find the apostasy also? And you may be surprised at at what I think is a is reasonable. So, uh, this one. Okay. So, is personal revelation a valid source for truth? Right. So, I'm kind of mocking it here what everybody these days has their phones out and so they're not really in tune with personal revelation very much, you know. So, hey, it's me. Are you guys listen? It's me, Jesus. But Isaiah, uh, I found in Isaiah a lot of places where he's saying stooped over in prayer to your idols. And in this 44:17, save us. You are our God. Um, he's he's saying right here you for which uh from from the rest they make a god their idol to which they bow in adoration and pray save us you are our god.

Well, I I was actually gonna ask you about it because remember how I was I was saying that I love the book of Mosiah and you know Ether and it's like in Mosiah TW in Mosiah 12 I believe I forget the guy whose name it was but like he betrayed his people bad and and like I think the whole chapter of Mosaic 12 was pretty much illustrating like what happens to someone who betrays his own people. And I mean, cuz he did betray his own people. I think I I don't know who it was. I think it was like Baniah was his name. Baniah or uh Benjamin. Something something with a B. Something something with a B. I may be wrong, but um yeah, for for everybody that doesn't know, Ignasio's basically investigating. He's considered himself LDS most of his life because of his one of his foster parents. But um yeah, so and but it's still like in and out being available to go to church and kind of finally now you're ready to kind of investigate more thoroughly and uh it's kind of cool. So we got King Benjamin in Mosiah. Mosiah is awesome. Yeah. Now, Mosiah for me there there's this there's this tale about this guy. I think it was I looked it up now. It's Abanadi. Abinity. Sorry. Abinadai. I'm sorry. I'm I'm so choppy with the Oh my goodness. I have him included in like the second to last slide, but yeah. Well, like it it talks about how, you know, he betrayed his own people and he got punished for it. He was thrown into like a cell or something and and pretty much his story is like a telling of how apostasy can lead to the persecution of those who love God. Pretty much. Yeah. And uh some people say this is like a parallel for the for the modern church because if you think of Zen, if you think of Zenf is Joseph Smith and Noah was the the one who came next. So Noah matches u Brigham Y Young. So, right. So, the story of that's an interesting parallel if true, but Noah is compared often to this uh to to uh Brigham Young's church. Uh I mean, I'm not saying that like don't think I'm separated from the LDS church. I go every week. I've gone every I've gone more sun I've gone to more sacrament meetings than there are Sundays in my life. I've been I it's literally true because I went many extra Sundays on in on my mission and I went many extra Sundays, two years of extra Sundays with my wife and so I've gone to a lot of sacrament meetings and I know perfectly well my parents took me as a baby so I haven't missed any in in my whole entire life. So uh sure a couple of sick days or whatever a couple of attitude days but um you're amazing D. this is my church, you know, and but like some people may think, oh, where are these guys coming from? Like talking about apostasy in the modern LDS church. Well, and I even like state presidency, you know, they're they're kind of a little bit stunned, but I I'm amazed that they don't know what's happening on the leading cutting edge of the LDS church. And it and we're going to cover that. We're going to talk about John the Baptist preaching in the wilderness. But uh and the and the type the different types in the scriptures, but thank God I think I see myself ourselves I see those that are paying attention is actually listening to the still small voice listening to what the remnant of of God will be a very small percentage according to Isaiah it's a tenth of a tenth that are the true remnant. Uh, so that's a that's one in a hundred one and you know that's one in a hundred. So maybe in Latter-day Saints it's it's it's five out of a hundred you know so even in your own ward there's only you know a very small handfuls of people that are in tune so well that they they know what's going on. Uh, and I hope I mean, it's easy for people to write me off and say oh you're way off bro. But okay, have you studied it as much as me? Have you studied the Book of Mormon in Isaiah as much as me and Iggy? Okay. Well, you better get on it because if you're that bad to the bone, you know, we're gonna talk about Mosiah or uh Mormon chapter 8. I didn't see any significant videos online about that. We're going to talk about Isaiah. I've already talked about Isaiah chapter 1 and some other chapters. So, let me see what the next screen is.

Okay. So, this is kind of changing the subject slightly, but we went from personal revelation as a source for truth. Now what that what I'm saying is do you have any any feelings in your heart any whisperings of the Holy Spirit that something is wrong in the modern LDS church that there's something going on and that what what am I studying? What am I praying about? What am I researching to to what am I pondering and asking God uh to know what what direction do we go in these modern times? And um like with with the current prophets, president, priests, and seers, are we feeling what we're supposed to feel? Are they doing what they're supposed to do? So, uh here's another source of truth in the modern times. I think a lot of people want to discredit these things, near-death experiences, but since there's so many thousands of testimonies, right? Thousands of these on on YouTube, this is great. Our scriptures are right on YouTube. All right. Now, you may be afraid to acknowledge these as a source of truth or credible, but there's so many thousands with very consistent testimonies. And most of all, these these these near-death experiences bear witness of Jesus and God the Father. They're not they're not saying Buddha is fine. They're not saying any of these things. Now maybe we don't have enough numbers like gazillions of NDEs to balance out other possible gods but I actually don't see that as as valid. I think it is God the father and Jesus Christ in in a very high percentage. uh you can do the statistics on um you can do searches on NDEs and do keywords and God comes up or Christ comes up in a high percentage you know 50% or 40% of all near-death experiences mention God or Christ. So um I mean, you have to do your own stats uh that's what I counted up in my head uh when I did a search for God or Jesus. Um, so near-death experiences, I think, uh, like here's here's some interesting stuff. Now, has God ever recommended the the Mormon church to anyone who's died? Like, okay, when you get back, go to church with the Mormons, have you what do you think the answer is, I would say out of the many hundreds of thousands that won at least. Yeah, it's poss it's certainly possible. I have not heard I have not heard any of them where God mentions you should uh go to church or the Mormons. In fact, he's still in in every case I can think of, he's just um he's just saying go to church. He didn't even say which one to anybody, right? But I have heard him say uh heard people say that God told them to read the Bible. Okay, so that's interesting. The Bible, he didn't even recommend the Book of Mormon. Now, there are LDS people who have died who've had their near-death experience, and some of them say that they've seen Book of Mormon events, Book of Mormon prophets, and Book of Mormon things, but um basically they already come from that environment. Now, so I don't know if God is confirming just to LDS people that the Book of Mormon is is ancient scripture or not, but um so that's that's that idea. um Bible, Book of Mormon. He's not definitely not saying follow any Mormon prophets or anything like that. Uh, he's saying go to church. He's saying read the Bible. He's saying now the one things that God really, what does God care about? You see this line down here? God is always telling people be good. Be nice to others. You remember yelling at that waitress. Do you remember passing up that person with a flat tire? You didn't stop to help them. or you remember when that person asked you for money and you didn't do a darn thing. Like God is not trying to show you guilt. He's trying to show you all the moments that you could have changed changed literally the history of mankind with your small actions. And I have seen near-death experiences where he where he holds, you know, holds up a a virtual screen and he says, "Okay, here's when you when you criticize that little boy in first grade." and the whole rest of his life was like on a lower note because you hurt his feelings so badly affected the whole rest of his life and and that and or here's the time you helped that one girl and she was ready for suicide and you helped her and it really changed all of eternity. Okay, do you get and God is obsessed or or very interested in telling you how your little actions become are massive shock waves in the eternities. So, amen. Even even your even your own personal thoughts that you think has no effect on anything, God says in near-death experiences that those affect others. So, when you see a poor homeless guy and you start thinking, "Oh, this guy smells bad. This guy has no chance. This guy is so ugly. This guy is so awful. Uh, these are very bad things to make a habit out of. And those thoughts and feelings rub off somehow spiritually. This is according to near-death experiences. Not my idea at all. But I have since hearing that, man, I've changed the way I think. I literally think only positive thoughts about others. Um, and sure if you if a guy does smell, you know, fine. Like I'll give you an example. One guy that he's a homeless guy and he comes helping me at my welding school quite often and I've told him, "Man, please, you got to take a shower." But the other recently, I know, poor guy. And and you got to imagine it must be hard to get a shower, but um, but he he's he's actually quite a good chess player. So he's been playing me chess now. He He comes so close to getting me, but he doesn't get me. I gotta be like, "No, no, I'm not that good at chess, but I I'm fine. I'm okay, you know." Yeah. Yeah. No, no, you're you're really really good. Like that's that's a whole another subject. You're You're really really good right there. I think I'm fine, but even this this little girl that lives with us, she can beat me two out of three games. It's like I can't I don't even understand what just happened. this this 16-year-old girl just just beat me a chest like without even too much stress and I out of 700 750 students you know she's not a student but you know out of all my school students almost nobody has beaten me so um but uh all right, let's finish up near-death experiences uh like one one thing they talk about there is talking directly with God, you know, um and that we're already sealed together and that we have we experience multiple lives. So, we do repeat lives and if we don't learn something here like if we're selfish or uh too much of an adulterer or or we can't kick addictions, he'll just send us back to repeat. Um, that's a very interesting concept. Um, but talking directly with God, I think is huge. Some some people have tried to put a middleman there. And the more I think about it, the more I realize how ridiculous that is that you can't talk to God. The God who has time for us. The God who knows everything about every speck of sand. Uh, you can't talk directly to him. How ridiculous is that? Now, uh, a lot of people I've heard general authorities kind of hint that why maybe I was confused about Bruce R. Maki's talk, but he's basically saying, "We only talk to the father. We don't talk to the son." And I hate to break it to you, but in near-death experiences, all the angels hear your prayers. Even the demons, even the demons and the angels and and God and everyone in heaven hears all of your prayers. And if they they must be able to tune it out, but they can hear everything. All of them are heard. So all of your thoughts, your entire life history, everything you have that you think is secret, all of those are are fully exposed in heaven. Uh, and they probably don't care because, you know, it's kind of like a little 2-year-old being embarrassed that he just crapped his pants. Okay. Uh, we all know it's going to happen. So these uh beings on the other side probably just laugh at how silly things are for us lower beings that are still learning a great deal. But um supposedly the moment you're out of your body, you get the spiritual Wi-Fi. I didn't I didn't put that on the screen, but spiritual Wi-Fi sounds extremely awesome because you can't even you can't even uh you can't even lie about anything because it'll just everyone's talking about it. So, if you say 2 plus 2 equals 5, uh, you might get an answer of how that's possible, but you can't just like you can't just lie about something and get away with it because everyone knows what the truth is with that spiritual Wi-Fi. It's that one's really profound. So, I actually don't see how any truth, especially near-death experiences, can conflict with God's truth. Okay? So we shouldn't be afraid of near death experiences as a source for truth because truth is truth and the gospel of Jesus Christ the true form of Jesus Christ church is about truth right so yes that makes a lot of sense and another thing I wanted to touch on um you had said earlier um about how you know like we used to do each other in you know and you know back in the days how it was and in Matthew 5 27-28 uh Jesus clearly uh sums it all up by saying if you've even thought about it once if you've even looked at a woman and lusted over her if you've been angry at your brother and called him a fool if you've hated someone you know even though you know like like how we're supposed to forgive But it's like sometimes I'll admit it sometimes in my heart, you know, I sometimes get angry at the guy cutting me off at the corner and I don't stop to forgive him until I'm like two street lights up up the road. But I'm supposed to be doing that automatically because Jesus says if I even say I hate this guy or something that I'm already um that I'm already charged with, you know, murder. Is that what the is that the biatitudes what they call the biatitudes or am I confusing that? So in 3rd Nephi 11 12 whatever maybe 13 definitely in 12 I know it's in 12 it's covering the same exact items and it's it's interesting how near-death experiences kind of verify those items like um that's kind of like God's full message in in dees is the same exact principles but in like kind of street language is almost cool that God comes down to our language you know our level and talks to us with our our pure our own style of language and in our heads and and he doesn't even bother with verbal. It's actually in our head. So, he's amazing. Yeah, there's so much out there, man. This is that's why I love that's why I go through thousands of near-death experiences cuz I'm not afraid of them. And I'm not afraid of any any true seeker is fine with listening to these and and you're not going to find any conflict because it really is God, you know, it really is from God. Sure. I've seen people with their own personal opinions um come out like cuz imagine you turn off the sound and you see a car wreck and so then you express your opinion of what just happened. It may not be correct. You you definitely saw it and you definitely have an opinion but it may not be 100% of what truly took place. And that's why I think some people have slight variations on things in near-death experiences because their their opinion is kind of, you know, their view, you know.

Yeah. Okay. So, going back to this little thought experiment, um, we, you know, may in the Book of Mormon, we should have been, we're looking for the church was corrupted. In Isaiah, the church was corrupted. I don't think I don't it's it's gonna be one or the other. Uh, most likely um, or in the Book of Mormon, will it be corrupted? Now, I noticed putting this video, these slides together that I really can't find much that gives us a timeline specific enough to know if they're saying was corrupted or will be corrupted. But man, it sure in like Isaiah the Isaiah chapter 1, it feels like it was corrupted. it has already happened and pe people like uh Abraham Gileadotti I'm going to show his picture in a second but he he thinks that it will be corrupted so but I think will be corrupted is kind of a copout because will be corrupted is like saying some point in the future the LDS church will be corrupted or all Christian churches will be at that time us now no we're not corrupt no everything's fine all is well in Zion And and I got so mad at a YouTuber recently because they're saying everything's fine. We're the we're the true gospel of Jesus Christ and we have a prophet on earth today and it's impossible for us to be corrupted any time in the future. And I couldn't believe their their negative feedback. It's like, bro, I don't think you should be so careless with that idea because if you're wrong, if if the church will be corrupted, now we're going to look at scripture and you're probably going to agree with me. It already was corrupted. Now, you Yeah, you could tell by the title of the video, I think it was corrupted. And let's we're just going to quote scripture and see if if this is what it's saying. Now, there's plenty of things that will be corrupted or or destroyed or but if we're looking for types and patterns in in the scriptures like Lehi, like Abinadai, like Alma, like um Isaiah, like Joseph Smith, like whoever, we're we're finding a lot of types and patterns here. Um, okay, so I am interested in any scripture from anybody in the comments. The modern church will never be corrupted. All right. If that's in scripture, let's hear it. I I've seen one or two verses that may sound that way. So, um, and I'm I'm I'm willing to I'm actually humble enough to take that for an answer if there was a convincing argument, but we have to at the same time explain uh all these scriptures in the Book of Mormon and we have quite a few scriptures in the uh in Isaiah. So, there's Gilead. He's saying there's no other candidates for this apostasy. So, I'm sorry I switched ahead too much, but So, let's check out the Book of Mormon first. It's so obvious. Um, what what we're really we know there's going to be corruption but we're trying to find any pointing of the time period here like in the in the last days but like of course everything is going to get destroyed when Jesus comes or right before Jesus comes. So, um, uh, 1 Nephi 14. Let me see if I can find it. Um, verse 17. I didn't want to put a whole lot of scriptures up here. Um, and it came to pass that I Oh, I'm doing the wrong one. And when the day when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church above all the earth, whose founder is the devil, then at that day the work of the father shall commence in preparing the way for the fulfilling of his covenants, which he hath made to his people who are of who are his he hath made to the his people who are of the house of Israel. Um, beautiful. Yeah. I mean, that's not very convincing, but um the the great and abominable church, I mean, Bruce Ranki attributed that to the Catholic Church. And if you look at it at these verses in chapter 14, it's a long discourse on the great and abominable church. But let's remember, he says there's only two churches. There's only the church of the lamb and there's the great and abominable church. So which one are we? Now um in I might as well say it in Isaiah chapter 1 he says we're sick from head to toe and from the bottom of our we're sick from the top of our head to the heart and from the bottom of our feet to the top of our head there is nothing sound. So that's uh that's I forget what verse but chapter 1 Isaiah chapter 1 but um so it kind of gives you a hint that if it's all or nothing on this abominable church or the church of the lamb then we're we are we firmly inside the the the perspective of the church of Jesus Christ the church of the lamb are we firmly square in that place and how have we fought off all these all these um infiltrations and all these attempts at corruption of the true church of Jesus Christ. How have we fought those off and when did we fight those off? And what are our victory stories and our victory laps and and the uh who the wicked men that we expose for their attempts at at infiltration? Uh, the only one I can think of is um that guy that was forging a lot of LDS documents. Uh, it's on the tip of everybody. It's on the tip of my tongue, but everybody probably knows who I'm talking about. Uh, I almost had it there for a second, but that guy, he he forged a lot of documents and the church was buying them. And, uh, but very soon they figured out the guy was a forge. Everything he was doing was forgeries. And so, uh, okay, maybe you could call that a threat attempt at the church of Jesus Christ, but I can't think of any other incidences where, uh, our general authorities kicked out impostors. You know, in fact, it looks like they're hiring imposters. You know, uh, one of the 12 authorities I know, Gong, uh, Gong's a Chinese Chinese general authority. Well, and most the average guy is thinking, "Well, that's terrific." But, uh, there's some video out there where he's where they were talking about Julian Assange and he's criticizing the heck out of Julian Assange. And I'm thinking, why is he criticizing Julian Assange? He's just a a reporter reporting corruption. Why would you have a problem with that guy? Julian Assange is the guy that got Trump elected the first time because if we didn't know all the corruption of Hillary Clinton, uh, Clinton would have won. It was a pretty close election as it was and if not for Julian Assange. So why is Elder Gong uh badmouthing, you know, it was like a secret camera? Uh, you know, now I'm not excited about these secret cameras going on around the 12 apostles. But if the guy doesn't have the sense to know that Julian Assange was the good guy, uh, what what else is Elder Gong uh kind of dumb about? You know, he doesn't even know. Now, I'm not saying Julian Assange is some righteous uh prophet or something. He's just a guy that's trying to expose corruption. And Gong doesn't like Julian Assange, right? And and he's it's almost like they're looking to him for this Asian Chinese perspective of government corruptions and uh wow, he's to me he he doesn't seem like a educ like of course he's educated, but what team is he on? You don't like people don't know what team they're on. You're a general authority. Come on, man. Yeah, I don't think he knows what team he's on. Not over your bad mouthing Julian Assange. Anyway, so uh Oh, wow. Which you see anything that looks interesting here? Um, yeah, I see. Yeah, tell me. Tell me. Tell me. I see 2 Nephi 6:12. They do not unite themselves to that great and abominable church. Now, when I when I read Second Nephi 6:12, it reminds me of Revelation 2. Yeah. What's that? Matter of fact, so in Revelation 2, it says to the angel of the church in Ephas, "Write, these are words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among them." He walks among the seven lampstands. Now, this is where it's going to get interesting because you see right here where it says, "Do not unite themselves with that great and abominable church." Now, I'm thinking that in Revelation, which this is yet to come, too. I believe that it says, "I know your deeds, your hard work, and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false, like me and you are kind of sort of doing here, D." Like, we're looking at the people in charge and we're saying, "Hey, um, we're not saying you're bad or anything. We're just kind of like, "Hey, this doesn't sound right." It just it looked better on paper, you know, because later on here in in uh Revelation 2, it says, "Right, that was the scripture you just read." That was u Yeah. Yeah. That sounds like a Book of Mormon verse, but go on, keep telling me. This is cool because I I haven't heard that one. Yeah. It says, "He holds seven stars in his right hand." I wonder who that could be. and walks among the seven golden lampstands. I know your deeds, your hard work, and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles, but are not. You have found them false. You have persecuted and have endured hard. You have been preserved and have endured hardships for my name and have not grown weary. Now, ain't that weird? the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Once again, there goes that kayastic structure that we find in Isaiah 40 if I'm if I'm not mistaken. Right. Yeah. I love 40. Holy crap. Uh, yeah. You know what? I used to have that that Jesus with the seven stars in his hand. That used to be my screen saver. You remember me showing it to you? Oh man, I love that. I love Isn't that crazy? That was my screen saver. The seven stars in his hand. Jesus. And uh he's all golden. He's he's got like this sword, lights of sword behind him. Yeah, it's a really it's a really cool picture. And and will it also gets ended like this. He says, "Yet I hold this against you. You have forsaken the love you had at first. Consider how far you have fallen. Repent and do the things and do the things that you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place. But you have this in your favor. You hate the practices of the Niclatians, which I also hate. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Holy Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life which is in the paradise of God. So that's what that's what the son that's what the son is saying is what it seems like to me. He's literally addressing a church. He's addressing the church of he's addressing the ephesis. The church in Ephesus. Yeah. Well, watch. You're going to see similarities in Mormon chapter 8 and some of the Isaiah verses that we cover. I chose um uh Book of Mormon and Isaiah specifically because I forgot to mention this. Isaiah I think covers uh this whole end time very clearly and it hasn't been molested very much. Um, that I know it's a horrible word in English, but in Spanish it just means they haven't they haven't con corrupted it. They haven't uh they haven't diluted it. Uh, the same Isaiah that we read is the same Isaiah that Jesus had. So it didn't change all the way since Jesus and even before that the Dead Sea Scrolls. Uh, I think they're younger than Jesus, but yeah, they are. But I don't know, there's there's older versions of Isaiah if I remember right, but Isaiah hasn't changed much basically. And it has had little changes for sure. No question about it. And it's hard to say what was deliberate or accidental uh because these some of these early sources for Isaiah goes way back. And so these little imagine little branches of changes splitting off in much earlier times since 2700 years ago. There's been a whole bunch of different little branch offs, you know, Ethiopian scripture and all these other weird scriptures that come back later in modern times where we can compare them all and digitize them all. It's great. But there's very few changes in the Dead Sea Scrolls and cuz that that Isaiah is intact, you know. Um, yeah, but that's pretty cool stuff. Um, one of my favorites here is uh First Nephi 21. Um, so now the significance of 20 and 21 first Nephi 20 and 21 Nephi is quoting Isaiah 48 and 49 but this uh first Nephi 21 or chapter 20 verse 1 no 21 verse1 sorry um they get they get jumbled together um hearken oh ye house of Israel all ye that are broken off and are driven out because of the wickedness of the pastors of my people. Yay, all ye that are broken off and are scattered abroad who are of my people, oh house of Israel. So um um anyway, there's more there, but he Yes. So, so that is not in Isaiah 48 even though in the Book of Mormon it it uh it's speculation whether Nephi put it in or the brass plates put it in. Like now I can imagine that any typical scribe would have cut that out because we don't want to we don't want to call out kings or pastors of the current people as wickedness. So that one got chopped at a very early place uh and is not in Isaiah 48. So um the Book of Mormon probably restored this line. But even if it even if it did come from Nephi and not actually from Isaiah, which is taking the the easy road out, basically this is the Book of Mormon is telling us because of the wickedness of the pastors of my people. So it is my people that he's continuing to talk about. You'll see u my people a bunch of times in these in these verses where he's where it makes it very clear these are these are Christians at the very least and these are u perhaps modern LDS that he's talking to uh the wickedness of the past of the pastors of my people. So it is in the future time sense and it's really a copout to say well that hasn't happened at all. President Nelson's fine the quorum of the 12 is fine there's all is well in Zion there's nothing to fear is not going to be corrupted or taken from us you know until Jesus comes again. Well let's look at some more more verses here. Um, I think it also lines up with a lot of uh Revelation too because there Jesus is literally calling out a specific church that's going to go into apostasy really bad. Yeah. And and so it it it makes sense that this is literally uh talking about the Christians of the end times. And yeah, now I always say the reason Mormons are significant, the the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is significant is because of the Book of Mormon. Now, it's very easy for anyone to determine that the Book of Mormon is ancient scripture, that is a true work, that it hasn't been corrupted, that is has the Hebrew structures in it, that it has all of the indicators. you know, all all the all the guys that are looking for a cheesy easy out, you know, uh there were no horses in North America, there was no iron or steel or they go into these stupid arguments. I'm like or we've all heard them. Yeah. Well, they you know those are stupid arguments because you don't know what technology they had. They found they've found smelters. They found all sorts of evidence for all of these things, animals and technologies and and also uh if I could No, no, it's okay. I was gonna say and also like God when he speaks or when someone sees God like time stops. So God can be talking to us and be showing us a flying car from the future or whatever is left to come and just him talking to you. By him talking to you, I believe he could possibly take you to the future or even glimpse the future. So what if you know Joseph Smith was just getting a glimpse of the future, you know? Well, it's pretty well documented, but no question like if you're in that spiritual zone where I call it the spiritual Wi-Fi zone. If you're in that zone, you're you're getting a download. You're getting all the truth. Uh, yeah, I even wonder if that's why he may have had a hard time translating the Bible because uh this was his first and foremost divine calling was to translate the Book of Mormon and he did it very very well. Whatever happened it was a success. Yeah. And um, yeah, so Joseph Smith, I think we'll talk about it in future episodes, but um, he never practiced, never preached, never taught polygamy. Okay, this is this should be a like a eyeopener to you. This should hit you over the head like a frying pan. This should be shocking to you. But when I first heard that, I was not shocked. I was I was like, "Heck yeah, this is amazing. I hope this is absolutely 100% true." Well, and then now after doing many many hundreds of hours of research and uh listening to every every video on YouTube, all of their documents, all of their evidence, this is not just people chatting about polygamy. This is the documents shown and delivered and discussed and debated. And Jose, there is no document. There's not a single document of Joseph teaching it or practicing it. And if you look carefully, you're going to see him many times, a dozen times saying against polygamy, uh, against other things. Hireum, same thing. Speaking bluntly, against polygamy. Okay, Emma speaking bluntly, clearly, perfectly against polygamy. It never happened. And these skeptics are saying, "Oh, that's cute. She defended her husband. That's cute. She uh she uh pretended that Joseph had no wives. Uh, well, just cuz Wikipedia says 39 or 64 or 27 wives, it doesn't mean Wikipedia knows what it's talking about. Uh, these women, Michelle Stone and uh forgive me all the others. Whitney Whitney Horning, okay? These women have scoured scoured for the internet and and libraries and archives for these documents, these journals. There is not a stone unturned. They have tore the place up looking for anything in favor of polygamy and it does not exist. So you can't say they're cherrypicking. They are they are tearing up the place. And Michelle, they are they are tearing it up. And Michelle Stone, you know, she uh she recently was forced to take her page down, which is so dumb. Like uh she didn't say that because you can't say that you're getting forcefully taken down. That's going to defeat the whole purpose of her trying to stay in the church for the sake of her children and whatever she's trying to do. Okay, fine. Me, I'm 61. I don't need anyone telling me what to do. Okay. And we're going to talk about John the Baptist. Why was he preaching in the wilderness? You know, did John the Baptist aba abandon and uh did he abandon the institution? A little bit, but mostly he just was doing his thing, which is preaching and baptizing in the wilderness. Now, the reason he was in the wilderness, it was some distance from the city of Jerusalem. Okay, that's a type for you and I. We are to be in the wilderness. Like, don't you imagine being in that time period? Okay, would I have been one who heard rumors of John the Baptist preaching in the wilderness? You got to hear this guy. This guy is fantastic. Oh, no. I got to go to synagogue on Wednesday or whatever they did back then. I have no idea. And no, I would have been like, "Let's go, dude. Let's go check him out. Let's see what he's saying. Is it Is it that good or not?" You know, and I'll determine for myself. Well, the the crowd was probably getting bigger and bigger. Wouldn't that have been cool to be there when Jesus got baptized and say, "Man, I was one of the first that recognized that still small voice that is preaching and crying in the wilderness. That's actually what I've been waiting to hear." You know, the true message. And that go ties into that second slide. We show a personal revelation. Are you feeling something? Are you hearing something? Do these things do these ideas ring true to you? And you could trust yourself. You know, people don't believe they can trust this instinct or this still small voice. But there is a way to test it. You just simply say, is it a good seed like Alma 32 talks about? Has it grown and swelled within my heart? Is it producing good behavior and good ideas and good uh, you know, more Christlike thought and actions? You know, that's how you know if you're making

The right choices. I personally, I feel more inspired, more Christlike, more fired up. I feel like I'm in the wilderness a bit, but I feel like I'm listening to John the Baptist. But these, these scriptures come alive. Um, um, Mormon 8. Okay. Um, the, the strongest argument, let's just jump to 36. The strongest argument here, um, and I know that. Okay.

"Behold, I speak unto you as if ye were present, and yet ye are not. But behold, Jesus Christ has shown you unto me, and I know your doing." Okay? So, he knows this. I know what you're doing. Jesus showed me to you. Um, showed you to me. "And I know that ye do walk in the pride of your hearts. And there are none, save a few only." There's only a few, Iggy. There's only a few who do not lift themselves up in pride of their hearts unto the wearing of very fine apparel unto envy. I used to do that. Yeah, I used to think clothes mattered. Now, I, I do have a very like good outfit that's very focused on productivity, my work outfit. That's pretty much. I don't have. Well, who doesn't have a couple of nice outfits? I mean, you got to like a suit for church and, yeah, and you got to take your wife out, so okay, you want to look decent for those occasions. I don't really think. I don't, I don't sit there and say, "Okay, the General Authorities all have very fine apparel." I don't really start doing that argument because they're in a, they, I mean, they've worked hard their whole life, hopefully, and they can afford a suit. Come on. Um, but, but it is the attitude of clothing for. I mean, this hat is a little bit vain, I'm sure, but, uh, um, you know, maybe I, maybe I should pray, pray, pray a little more and check out my own humble status here, but we got to be entertaining too. Um, okay.

"Unto envying and strives and malice and persecutions. Now, this sounds more familiar. And all manner of iniquities in your churches. Yea, everyone have become polluted because of the pride of your heart." So, your churches, yea, every, even everyone have become polluted. So, um, that's pretty, that's pretty direct and definitive. Yep. And verse 33 over here, I don't know how the three got chopped out, but verse 33, "Why have ye transfigured the holy word of God?" And, um, and then, uh, verse 28, "Even in a day when leaders of churches and teachers shall rise in pride of their hearts, even to the envying of them who belong to their churches." Okay, we definitely see that, uh, almost like Russell M. Nelson worship, you know. Yeah, I, I mean, they do. They just do. And General Authority worship and, oh, I got to talk to so-and-so. I've done it myself. I've seen General. I met many, many General Authorities, but, um, they seem, they seem kind of good guys. Some of them, uh, Suarez, I saw at City Creek Mall. He was buying a suit. Kind of fits this scripture. But he was nice. He was talking to my wife in Spanish. She was saying he speaks Portuguese because he's from Brazil. And, um, I thought he was, I thought he was a decent guy, you know. Um, it's hard to say. I always thought that meeting these guys was kind of a spiritual moment. And I wonder if it was just this celebrity kind of appeal or what, you know, 'cause I mean, I would, I mean, wouldn't I love to have countenance that people recognize from a distance like Jesus or something? Uh, like, let's focus on our own self, you know, our own, our own spiritual self, you know, are we, are we living up to what Jesus has for us? Uh, but I, I think this one line is very convincing. "Your churches, yea, even everyone have become polluted." Okay. Um, he's really reviling us there. All right.

"Isaiah," um, "search Isaiah diligently." Jesus said that when he came to America. Um, and Isaiah talks about things that have been and shall be. So, uh, Gileadi makes a big deal out of this one. It's talking about past and future. So, when, when we do read Isaiah, these Isaiah verses, there's, there's two or three or four layers of fulfillment. So, they could have happened at multiple times in history. And that's kind of like the brilliance of God's predictions is they come true in many time periods, and he saw, foresaw all of our, um, iniquities, all of our, all of our issues. Um, and 1 Nephi 19, "I did liken all scriptures unto us, that it might be for our profit and learning." So, we're commanded and told to compare Isaiah, Isaiah to ourselves. All right.

So, this biggest, uh, chapter one, I think, is one of the biggest, uh, eye-openers. Gilead says there are no other candidates. So, when he's, when, um, "a nation astray, a people weighed down by sin, the offspring of wrongdoers, perverse children, they have forsaken Jehovah, they have spurned the Holy One of Israel, they have lapsed into apostasy." Now, Gilead, when he says there are no other candidates, he's saying this is the LDS people in the end times. So, my people in, in Isaiah, in Isaiah 1, verses 2, 3, 4, um, um, the whole chapter is, is very clear about an apostasy of the people, and I'm, I'm certain that it's talking about our day and the leadership. I found 20 pairs or even if it was 10 pairs of key words. See, like, "see how it says, alas, a nation astray, a people weighed down." So, it's saying a nation, a people. You see that's a pair. So, these word pairs, um, um, these word pairs are common in the first chapter, and it's definitely saying kind of two classes, the leadership and the people. So, "a nation of people, oh leaders of Sodom, you people of Gomorrah." So, there's a whole bunch of other phrases there in Isaiah chapter 1. So, "they have lapsed into apostasy" is talking to both leaders and the people. So, it's easy for everybody to blame. Okay, all the members of the church just aren't listening. The prophets in the Quorum of the Twelve are broadcasting a message of Jesus and correct behavior, and we're just not getting it. Well, Isaiah makes it clear with all these word pairs that it's talking to leaders, "Oh leaders of Sodom, you people of Gomorrah." That's in chapter 1. So, Isaiah chapter 1 sets the stage for all of the chapters of Isaiah. Um, and here, here it is again. Um, 1 Nephi 21:1 is Isaiah, but it's, it's the Book of Mormon new, like the forgotten passage that the wickedness are driven out because of the wickedness of the pastors of my people. Now, I actually believe that's going to be more of a future tense where people are kicked out of the LDS church more and more and more and more. Kind of like pushing them out, driving them out, broken off and driven out. Broken off. Um, something really, really big is is like supposed to happen. I'm, I'm guessing that's what you're implying. Uh, yeah. I mean, I think, like we talked about it at the couple of the last, the second to last slide or something. Doctrine is talking about a collapse of the church and the temple. Uh, now, most people would say, no, it's not. It doesn't say that in there. Well, I mean, I don't know how deep you got to get into Isaiah to see it clearly, but it, I mean, it's talking about a fiery destruction.

Um, well, I was kind of wondering, D. Um, 'cause like the points you pressed on are really, really wonderful and really, really like you tediously did a lot of work on this stuff, and I really, really respect you for that. I'm just kind of wondering like, so say a modern LDS member is watching this right now and they're like, "Hey, you know what? Uh, these guys, you know, are talking about some stuff that's really important and maybe even inevitable. Like, maybe I should listen to these nerds, you know, like, maybe do you have any words that we can give to the viewer right now who's thinking in their minds, well, if the church falls, what do I do?" Yeah, that's what this slide is for because, uh, it's a really great picture of them. They're, they were demolitioning the Salt Lake Temple to make improvements and additions and seismic. But this is a great picture because I can imagine, and if you read these verses here, um, um, uh, let's go to verse 18, top left. "And now ye behold this temple which is in Jerusalem, which ye call the house of God, and your enemies say that this house shall never fall. But verily I say unto you, that desolation shall come upon this generation, as a thief in the night, and this people shall be destroyed, and scattered among all nations, and this temple which ye now see shall be thrown down, that there shall not be left one stone upon another." Okay. So, that, of course, happened to the Jerusalem Temple, and nobody believed it at the time. Uh, but the way that God impresses us, and this is what Isaiah chapter, uh, 48 is talking about, that I had foreseen everything, and that he had, God has seen everything, and he's going to prove with all these different repeating cycles, um, we're going to see, likely, we're going to see another destruction of the temple. Okay. Now, looking, and wouldn't that shock a lot of Latter-day Saints, especially after all these seismic improvements by Russell M. Nelson? Imagine if you think, all right, so imagine for a second, Russell M. Nelson, prophet of the church, improves the temple with massive seismic improvements, and then God tears it down. Then who's going to leave the church then? Everybody's going to leave the church, right? It's going to be a massive, like, a prophet can't couldn't save the church. It must be a sign from God that this thing is off. Well, God is going to start testing saints with your testimony of the Book of Mormon and this testimony of personal revelation. So, Iggy, you and I, we believe that we can talk directly to God. We believe that we should be talking to God more than daily, like all day, all day long. All day long. And that we can trust and rely on this communication with God. We can believe in it. We can feel it. We can live off of it, live off of it, and kind of get used to it so that we perceive it and comprehend it, right? And so the person that's shallow and unprepared and not studying and not in tune with God, like no one-on-one connection with God, when that temple falls down, they're going to say, "There's no more." And I witnessed it. Believe it or not, I witnessed this with the, uh, with the polygamy, polygamist, uh, the, the RLDS or whatever that church was with Warren Jeffs, right? Believe it or not, I did a lot of welding with these, with all the young men of that church. They were welders and construction guys, and we did projects together here in Las Vegas. I was the, the lead welder, and they were there either helping to weld or doing whatever they did. And they had these massive construction crews with RLDS, Warren and Jeff's church young men. Now, they, the reason they did that is because they were trying to keep them away from all the girls and, you know, basically almost kicking them out of the whole neighborhood practically. That was a weird thing. But, but I noticed that the young men themselves, they, they read the scriptures, they prayed, they, uh, blessed their food, they ate together, they did everything together. And it was like a spiritual brotherhood. I, I was kind of impressed 'cause you don't see Mormons eating lunch together and praying and singing a hymn and reading scriptures during lunch. You don't see that. Well, I was impressed that they did that. They invited me in, and I'm like, "Yeah, heck yeah. Let's do it. I'm not a, I'm not afraid of anything. Like, this is great. I, I felt a great spirit there." And then some of, some called me. Some of those guys called me after Warren Jeffs got arrested and how the, uh, the feds took those kids in and kind of they, I mean, they, they kept those kids in a barn for four or six hot hours and fed them McDonald's, which they weren't used to, especially it's a, uh, it's an hour to the nearest McDonald's where the, they live in Brigham City, I think, is what it's called, but, anyway, what a, what a mess. So, why did I bring those guys up? Uh, I mean, I, I witnessed kind of their falling away. I told him, "You can't, you can't throw out the Book of Mormon. I don't care how bad Warren Jeffs was. You can't throw out the Book of Mormon. You can't throw Jesus out." Uh, and throw the baby out with the bathwater. Yeah. But they didn't. It's like they didn't want to listen to it. They didn't want to hear it. They just wanted to be in misery. Oh, okay. Yeah. 'Cause I was going to ask, I was like, "What's wrong with these people that they just can't think about the good of others?" Like, what's wrong with them? Well, that's the devil in action. He's trying to destroy every heart. And when, and that's what he's trying to do to us. I see that. He's trying to bring us down and destroy our, any attempt at righteousness, any attempt at being good. And we're dragged back into our phones. We're dragged back into pornography, dragged back into pride, dragged back into any, any sin, doesn't matter. Um, and this is what, this is what it's talking about here. "Behold, vengeance cometh speedily upon the inhabitants of the earth. A day of wrath, a day of burning, a day of desolation, of weeping, of mourning, of lamentation, as a world, and as a whirlwind. It shall come upon all the face of the earth, sayeth the Lord, and upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth." Wow. What the heck is he talking about? Like, is this going to be the drone invasion that comes to Salt Lake? Like, and what the whirlwind in Isaiah is talking about drones, I think. Um, but upon my house shall it begin. And it's supposed to be a bad, bad day, a day of wrath, a day of burning, desolation, weeping, mourning, lamentation. Okay. Wow. Uh, first among those among you, sayeth the Lord, who have professed to know my name, and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, sayeth the Lord. So, this may be a hint that there has been a hostile takeover of our church. They profess to know me, okay? And led all these people astray. And that's why it begins in his house, um, because of the hypocrisy.

Now, if you imagine Brigham Young, let's go back to this screen. Um, Brigham Y. Young seems like the most obvious entry point for this corruption. Okay. Um, it started right here. You see this top left picture? That's evidently that's John Taylor holding a pistol to Hyram's under his chin. Now, why did the church cover it up? See this plaster on the chin? Trust me, there was nothing wrong with that chin. Uh, 'cause and the, what the, whatever the church didn't think about is there's other copies of that mask before they plastered it. So, what idiot at the church thinks that it's better to cover that up like it's a repair or something? Oh, let's just pretend there's a repair there. No, you're covering up a small hole under the chin because the hole is smaller here and bigger here. So now you see that, uh, there was a cover-up here. They're trying to pretend that the bullet came in through the nose, you know, pick a side, you know, in through the nose and out the chin. Uh, it's actually the other way. So, right-handed man under the chin comes out the left side of the nose. Okay. So, it's a bigger, it's a bigger exit wound. Okay. This is, this happened in Carthage Jail. Okay. This is the ballistics of the room. It was not a musket ball. The, the wounds are too small to be a musket ball. Okay, they were pistols. Uh, the only ones in the, in vicinity that had pistols were Joseph, Hyram, John Taylor, and Willard Richards. There was three or four guns there at least. I think there was four guns there. And the small caliber got Hyram first. Why? Because Hyram was first in line for succession of the church. That, that's one reason it was him first. Uh, the blood on the, uh, on the, uh, vest proves other things that John Taylor and Willard Richards' stories don't mix at all. They don't jive. Um, but this is, this, this one little photo here is some of the most convincing evidence that it was a hostile takeover.

Now, uh, Brigham Young, another very convincing thing for Brigham Y. Young, if you go on Wikipedia and look at his, uh, his wife count, his wife count went up instantly. As soon as Joseph Smith died, it was like within a month, he had 10 to 15 new wives. Now, why did he wait until Joseph died? If Joseph was in favor, if Joseph was the sponsor, was, was he, uh, the wizard of polygamy, then why did Brigham wait until after he died? Because he killed him. Yes. Because, uh, I, I believe he was involved. I even heard a guy say that Brigham was in the crowd with the mobs trying to. Which makes perfect sense because Brigham had to orchestrate some of this, and he had to make sure it was done. He had to make sure that the men behaved a certain way. There was, uh, according to the actual testimonies, there wasn't this huge group of men up at the top of the stairs like everyone thinks and the paintings and the movies depict. Okay, there was not a whole bunch big mob up at the door. Uh, there, there's only room for three or four or five. Um, and they're not going to be able to do much at that little tiny spot, but it doesn't matter. The ballistics, there's not a bunch of, there's no marks in the room for bullet holes. Uh, there's no pecked walls. There's no, no evidence for musket balls anywhere in the room. And that's why they keep saying that they, Joseph or Hyram were shot through the window. Well, why would you mess with the window when you could just tear the door down and go in there and I, you know, maybe they realized that Joseph had guns. I mean, there's a lot of complicated issues, but the ballistics, you can't really argue with.

So, Justin, Justin Griven, I love Justin. He's saying, "Go ahead, tell him some better ballistics. Tell him better ballistics for the room." Okay. Now, this all, this may be shocking to some people. Uh, you, we were all there when Nelson. I hate this picture. It's not like I want to make Russell M. Nelson look bad or any. I really don't. I wish he was a perfect prophet. I wish everything was normal, but it's not. Uh, he recommended the vax. He's wearing a black mask, which bugs the heck out of me, to be honest. Uh, the vaccine. This is, wow. This is unbelievable. All right. This is either the most stupid thing I've ever heard anyone of any corporation or group or leadership position of any kind. This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. Now, I could, I suppose I could tolerate him being the stupidest prophet on the planet. Um, and I, I don't mind telling him that. I'm a welder, and I know what that crap is you're injecting. Uh, spike proteins has no value in the human body. It doesn't. Okay. Sorry. All you chumps. Now, you know why I'm mad at you, Russell M. Nelson? I'm looking you right in the eyes. Okay. You owe me an apology, Russell M. Nelson. You owe me an apology because are my children going to listen to my very thoroughly researched advice or they going to listen to you? You demon. Okay. You have followed the devil himself with your ridiculous nonsense, and you continue, Russell M. Nelson, to demand and force missionaries to receive the vaccine in order to go on a mission. What a deceptive tactic. You've had millions of church members voice their opinion to you. This is not a vote. I understand it's not a vote, but they have voiced their opinion that the vaccine is dangerous, and you have millions of billions of dollars at your disposal. And yet somehow you're ignorant of the danger of this vaccine still after years of proper evidence of death, death, death. So, what does that make you? And you can't be a demon because you can't be that stupid for five. How many years has it been? Three, four or five years. You can't be stupid for four years. You can't be stupid for that long. Okay? You can't, you can only be evil for that long. Okay? Now we have one more bit of evidence that you are in the evil camp. President Nelson, uh, is you're, you, when did you ever, uh, abolish yourself, apologize for Skull and Bones membership? Owl membership. This is a demonic organization that worships the devil. Okay. Homosexual behavior, uh, all kinds of immoralities and adultery, and wow, the secrets. This is a secret combination if ever there was one. And you were, I think you were president. It was in your book. Uh, I've got it on my desktop printed pages from your book, the one that you wrote. Indeed. Also, also, I just wanted to put this out there so that way all your viewers know, all that way all of all our viewers know, groups like that, Skull and Bones, 33rd Masonry, 30, you know, all these different things, the only way to get out is death. So that man is living and breathing. He's still Skull and Bones. And, and why was George Bush so afraid to talk about it or John Kerry? They were, they, they wouldn't, I mean, they're powerful men, and they're afraid to talk about it. I mean, if they had any power, they would have said, "Ah, yeah, screw those guys. That's nothing. It's just a fraternity joke." No, they said, "Nope, top secret. Can't talk about it." Yeah. Like John Kerry was like, "I ain't talking about it." Chicken. He was probably the smart one. Well, like I heard stories now. You guys tell me in the comments if this is true, that that the guy from Yale came all the way to Salt Lake and it's and made Russell M. Nelson president, and then, um, and then is that true? They don't have any other u, uh, locations like they don't have multiple locations around the country. They just have two, the Salt Lake and the, you know, under the direction of Russell M. Nelson and the Yale University. That seems bizarre to me. And then, okay. All right.

So, we could forgive President Nelson. We could forgive him for the vaccine if he had done it in a timely manner. That would help a lot. And we could forgive him of Skull and Bones. Okay. Because is your life perfect, Iggy? No. No, sir. Is my life perfect? No. I could, I've broken plenty of commandments, uh, of the Ten Commandments. Okay. And more than I want to admit. And, um, okay. So, where's your conversion story from satanic worship to president, prophet, seer, and revelator for the Church of Jesus Christ? A direct representative of Jesus Christ. You should have published an apology for Skull and Bones. You should have published a lengthy testimony of your conversion from devil worship to Jesus worship. That would be a spectacular story. I can't wait to hear it. I would, I would actually think about, I would think about forgiving him if he apologized and stopped. Yeah. And said like, "Hey, this is what I was doing, and I was at my worst point, and then I changed that." I will accept or, okay, I became educated, and now I must apologize for how stupidly I recommended it. But he's still recommending it, even though thousands of church members of expertise have contacted him and told him how bad this thing is. I'm not obsessing over the vaccine, but this shows how very poor his judgment has been in his past, including especially Skull and Bones.

Uh, let's talk briefly. Brigham Y. Young and this, uh, this guy here in the U, this Michelle Stone over here, she's been one of the top experts on polygamy, how Joseph Smith had never taught it. Uh, the guy, this black man below here, I forget his name. I should have been prepared, but he was one of the, one of two or three men that were ordained to the priesthood by Joseph Smith. He carried that paper around to prove to Brigham Young and others that he had priesthood authority and it could not be taken away from him, um, because his conduct was good and Joseph Smith gave him the priesthood. Wow. Um, um, Brigham Y. Young abolished that idea immediately. So, if you read the journals of Brigham Young and the England missionaries, disgusting men, adulterers, all of them, um, not all of them, but mo many of them, their journals are disgusting. Sleeping with women night after night, ignoring their wives back at home, even on their birthdays and special occasions. Disgusting letters. It is rumored that Brigham Young tried, well, it's known that he tried to sell the Nauvoo Temple, couldn't do it, tried to collect on insurance by having the, the temple burned to the ground. The other benefit of burning the Nauvoo Temple to the ground was that people, um, wouldn't stick around in Nauvoo. He, he needed the movement to go out west so he could retain his power and isolate the people and control the women and control the men and perpetuate stupid doctrines like, uh, Adam God theory and, uh, blood atonement, which is basically a license to murder, um, and other almost everything Brigham has done has turned out badly. Polygamy, of course, he invented polygamy. It's so, so, I mean, the moment I heard that, I was like, this is fantastic. I don't have to believe that Joseph Smith was a pedophile. I don't have to believe that he's lying to everybody about polygamy. It's literally revision, perfect revisionist history by Brigham Young. And so, um, the, the, the reason this is so expensive is if Brigham Young hostile takeover Joseph Smith, good man, not a polygamist, not a pedophile, uh, translated the Book of Mormon accurately, okay, did his role on earth, then John Taylor obviously was not an authentic prophet, especially if he's the one that pulled the trigger on Hyram. Wow, that makes this a line of demons themselves.

Now, I like, uh, Spencer Kimball. Um, I liked Benson. I guess I liked Hunter. He wasn't in for very long. I like Gordon Hinckley. I like, uh, Monson. I liked them. There was a string there that seemed like pretty good men. And it was easy for me to believe during those years that those men were prophets because they talked about Spencer Kimball had a lot of great stories of serving others, helping people. But, um, if you ask any LDS guy that is seriously a student of Jesus Christ, he's got similar stories of helping somebody, a woman here and a man there, and a person in need, and a person that needed money. U, we've all got stories. We should have stories. These men had, these men had stories. Um, Nelson, I, I'll tell you the truth. I was teaching Elders Quorum, and I admitted this is before the pandemic. I was shocked when it, when I looked back, recollected when, and I said to my elders, I haven't had a, uh, any confirmation that he's a prophet, and I don't know why. And I just stated that out of curiosity. Uh, and I said, I'll continue to pray about it. And then the pandemic came along, and I was even more convinced that what I had felt internally was accurate. Um, and it's surprising that the Holy Spirit was saying kind of strongly no. And, but, but you don't hear it as a strong no until you start to ponder it. What was that answer? What, what was I feeling and experiencing? Well, it was a strong no. He's not a prophet. Um, probably because of these end times. You know, we're coasting along with Kimball and, um, Benson and Hunter and Hinckley. Uh, we're coasting along, and they're pretty good guys. But man, we're here in the end times. No question about it. Uh, I don't know when Jesus is coming. Of course, nobody does, but it feels like we're in some end times. I hope he comes soon. Yeah. Uh, so these are strong scriptures by Doctrine of Covenants.

Did I miss them? Oh, you guys look at these scriptures from Isaiah. Isaiah chapter one. Now, I did a whole video on Isaiah chapter 1. It's shocking. The other one that to me is shocking is, uh, 48:8. "Isaiah 48:8. I knew you would turn treacherous. You were called a transgressor from the womb." Um, now, uh, even 48:4 is talking, both verses are talking about Brigham Y. Young and his crew in a general way or in a specific way, both. Um, because how in the world do we have the Book of Mormon and the restoration, and then somebody goes and introduces polygamy, kills the prophet, and then leads the people out to Salt Lake and continues a whole bunch of nonsense for generations until now? Uh, now we're maybe we're snapping out of it because we have some modern technology. We have the Joseph Smith papers. We have documents that we can read for ourselves. We no longer have these oddball middlemen. We're, we're not, we can make decisions for ourselves. So, we are making these decisions. Now, Isaiah 28 is also equally profound and very damning. "Priests and prophets have gone astray. They err as seers. They blunder in their decisions. Uh, 28:8, for all tables are filled with vomit. No spot is without excrement. Whom enlighten with this with revelation?" So, he's, I, I had to chop some words out because there's no room for it, but he's basically saying, who will we get to enlighten us with the, you know, with revelation and with, with, uh, knowledge from God? That's what a seer, that's what a prophet and seer are supposed to do is prophesy and see. Okay. So, why is he saying, why is Isaiah saying that the tables are filled with vomit and excrement everywhere? Wow, dude. What the heck does that mean? Well, read. It's talking to the priests, the drunkards of Ephraim, us that have the, have this end-time priesthood, and we are of the tribe of Ephraim, and we're, and they have become as faded wreaths, fading wreaths. So, their, their power and their, uh, their worldly crowns are fading. Okay. Um, yeah. So, there's a long list of, um, apostasy.

Margaret Barker really goes into this chapter, Isaiah 1:2, where she says these, this ox and the ass, and these other verses, they literally, um, mean, uh, royal priesthood raised up by God, installed by God as kings. Okay? And the comparison is, whenever he said, "brought them up," that phrase right there in Hebrew is only used to describe David and Solomon. So, it kind of hints that David and Solomon, in their many wives and concubines, were also abominations like Jacob 2 says. So, when it's brought up, "brought them up," it's only mentioned in three places. Two of the places are talking about David or one is talking about David. One is talking about Solomon, and one is talking about sons who have been raised up who have revolted against me. So, these, Margaret Barker is like incredible. Look her. It's hard to dig through her books. I have 18 or 19 of her books, and it's in there. So, it's shocking that it's in there. All right.

So, um, I think you're in the right place if you're studying with us because look at Lehi. Did he abandon the institution, or was he called out into the wilderness? Okay. He took the brass plates with him. He took the scriptures with him. The Leona appeared, and he followed that guidance of the Leona through 2,000 miles of desert, very little water, until they came to the land of Bountiful. That was an 8-year, 8-year transaction. So, that may be just like our coming seven years of tribulation. Uh, it probably was seven years of tribulation and some good times there equaling. So, half a year before, uh, before getting into the raw desert, and half a year after in Bountiful building the ship. So, that's seven years of tribulation, full-on tribulation for Lehi and his family. So, we're probably heading for, or we are in, the seven years of tribulation. Um, John the Baptist was preaching in the wilderness. So, if you're learning these crazy ideas in the wilderness, it's a different teaching. It's what you're not used to hearing. Isaiah taught in the wilderness. Jesus, uh, taught all manners of people, but not in the institution of the church. Okay. Abinadi, um, excellent stuff, you know. He, he was preaching to the wicked priests of Noah. So, um, that's pretty cool. All of the, there's, there's probably a dozen other. Put in the comments if you can think of any other people basically teaching in the wilderness or separating themselves from the institution or the common types of, you know, the common status of the church and doing things that are a little bit different. Um, you know, Alma, oh, I got Alma behind our little picture. So, Alma was a biggie. So, he definitely did that. Um, he was one of those. Um, I'll leave it right there for a second. So, um, I put, I put here, um, some channels. If you want to do some homework, you won't be able to find 132 problems anymore. She took it down. They forced her to take it down evidently. I don't, I haven't heard her say that to me, but she does respond on Facebook messaging to me sometimes. Um, but she says she's, she's not gone. She's just doing what the church tells her to do to keep her membership, which seems strange. She, she's not really admitting that so clearly. She's kind of keeping it safe, whatever. I don't know how to describe it. Doctrine of Christ, these guys, there's a bunch of Doctrine of Christ channels. These guys are fantastic. Um, don't get all annoyed that some of these guys came from controversial groups. Uh, well, all of this is a little bit controversial, but there's always a spirit to some of these organizations, but this group here, Doctrine of Christ, truly are Christ-seeking guys. And, you know, don't be too uptight. What, you know, Zombre DOC, he's controversial, but I've noticed he's, he's got Isaiah chapters that I've heard information better than almost anybody. So, if we were to compare my Isaiah chapter 1 video to Zombre Doc or even Truth and Precept, both of those guys did Isaiah chapter 1, uh, episodes, and they're amazing. Very good content for Isaiah chapters. Isaiah chapter 1, Truth and Precept is my number one recommendation out of all these channels. Uh, but holy crap, uh, Hemlock Knox is awesome for a channel. Still Mormon, awesome for polygamy issues. All right. Who killed Joseph Smith? Amazing content that, uh, I don't know how Justin did it. It's almost like Justin Griffin did something amazing, like he's inspiring because how in the world did he do that? How did he do that? Uh, that was amazing. So, I'm just kind of a little chump here doing my thing. But I think there's power in these conversations, and me and Iggy, we got to do this, you know. We're going to keep talking about this stuff, you know. Yeah, absolutely. Most definitely.

And you know, also another thing for anyone out there just feeling alone, like you maybe have, maybe crossed that straw that just broke the camel's back. Maybe you don't know about some of the things that we're saying. Maybe you do. Maybe you feel a little differently, or maybe you agree. Here's something to leave you with, too, is like reading the Bible like the way me and Decal do. We not only read it to gain knowledge and wisdom of who God is and of what the Holy Spirit can do, but it also brings us our hearts, our actual hearts, not our spiritual, not well, not just our spiritual hearts, but our very hearts, spiritual, physical, and, you know, heavenly. All that is what you gain whenever you read scripture. Yeah. You know, we got our man Jesus. You know, this personal feeling that Jesus really cares and God really cares. It's like a revival for me. Uh, I know Iggy's mentioned it. It's kind of a revival for both of us. Yes, sir. That's why we're excited to talk about these things. Um, I don't, I don't think we missed too much. Uh, this last screen, just pause on this one if you want to do some extra credit on First Nephi 20 and 21. I divided a whole bunch of characteristics of, um, the end-time servant in white and the, uh, end-time antichrist. I kind of associate this orange guy with Brigham Young and or anyone that behaves on this side, and this right, this white, this white concept. See if you don't find any of these similar ideas. If you want to do some homework. Uh, this is the end-time Davidic servant. I don't know much about the guy other than I do know that LD, like on the LDS website, you won't find it, but it has been on the LDS website. I, I assure you, I've seen Davidic servant on there. Um, but you won't hear much about it because when he comes, he's supposed to be the one doing the destroying of the, of the modern church. So, he's the one kicking some butt and bringing it to us. So, this, uh, this verse, "upon my house shall it begin." Well, evidently it begins with the Davidic servant. So, um, that would be very interesting to figure out. So, see if you can find any how is First Nephi 20 and 21 matches these characteristics up with the good guy and the bad guy, let's call it, for homework. Um, yeah, it's kind of fun. Um, God is good, you know. God is, God is so good. And he has blessed us to where we have eyes to read, ears to hear, two hands, two, you know, two arms, two legs. And it's like, I think we're doing what God would want us to be doing is spreading his word, trying to understand what the church is pretending to tell us is true when we with our own eyes can read differently. Yeah. And we can follow. That's why I ended on this screen because we're going to hopefully have less and less of this idol worship and more and more of this one-on-one connection with God. Believe that God and Christ can talk to us. Believe that you can receive true inspiration from them. And that's all I hear in near-death experiences. Why don't you have a conversation with me? Why don't you talk to me? Why don't you express your fears and your desires and your conversations just, just with me? And God is, imagine, I can imagine right now because it's, it's so because I have 11 kids, and a bunch of them, uh, several of them I don't talk to, you know, because one of them's disowned me, one of them's in prison, one of them, uh, you know, was very kind of immature, you know, another one rarely talks to me just out of convenience, you know, so all my daughters are great, you know, I'm not really criticizing any of my kids. But I can understand how Jesus and God feel like no one, no one's listening. No one cares. As a parent, they must be so disappointed and so sad, like, 'cause they adore us. And they, so imagine how great God and Christ are going to feel when you pray to God and you talk to Jesus, and you, you thank them, and you, I love to ponder the atonement. You already know it's my favorite thing to think about. It'll be the first thing I ask. I, it'll be the first thing I ask Jesus to show me. Now, what a whopper. I mean, when he shows me that, it's going to be so painful and so hurtful and so unbelievably deep and dark and painful, but I want to see how he rescued us. I want to see how he did it, how he made it through that. I want to see him do that. And, and maybe, maybe this is the wrong thing to wish for, but this, this is something that that has came into my heart that I want to now. I can visualize it. I, I see it all the time. I see how he was pressed. I see how he had great drops of blood. I see how he prayed minute and hour, and I don't know how many thousands of hours if it's possible. How did he pray for so many of us? It had to break through the barriers of time because he can't even mention every name in the United States that are living right now in that six-hour period. So, he had to break through the barriers of time to give us the infinite atonement and to know our every thought and our every deed and our every sin. And he had to be crushed and pressed and tormented and alone and isolated there. There's so many emotions, but I love to ponder about my man Jesus. I like to think about him and put him on my team, or be on his team. Obviously, I'm on his team. He's not on my team, but we, we are a team. I mean, how can I say he's not on my team? We are a team. It's all him, though. I'm, I'm 100% following him, and, uh, uh, I know you're the same way, bro. Yes, sir. You know I am. God's everything to me. He's my center. He's everything. Yep.

Well, good job. That's a pretty good ending point testimony. So, uh, wow, Iggy. I think, uh, even, even though this is our first time zooming, YouTubing, whatever, uh, it's going to be awesome when we do some more arguments, or we don't agree on everything. We might argue about some stuff. That'll be fun. Hey, that's what I love about you is like, me and you can argue about something, and then we could just kick back on a couch or, you know, have a nice joy ride, you know, to break or whatever, and just laugh it all off. Like, this is what living is about. Yeah. Yep. Exactly. And you've got this wonderful platform to put out there. I've seen, I'm seeing the way you're doing it. Like, this is just beautiful. Like, this is really absolutely beautiful. And you're doing this out of all, out of the goodness of your heart. And it's like, I've, I've yet to meet a man that has that much consideration of others. Someone who loves God so much like you that you just want everyone else to know that. And you want everyone else to feel that, you know, that says a lot about you, D. You are not a greedy man. You are not, you know, anything that any a-hole has said to you, you know, throughout your life. You, to me, you're one of the good ones, you know, to, to me, you're one of the good ones. Yeah, bro.

Well, I, I appreciate that. And, um, yeah, anytime. I, yeah, I try, you know. I, I try. I mean, when you think, when you honestly think about Jesus, what else are you going to do? I mean, literally, what else are you going to do? You, if you honestly think about Jesus, you got to start acting like him. You can't be an idiot, road raging. You can't be a bad guy arguing with, hurting your wife's feelings for the thousandth time. You can't be drama and picking fights and saying negative things and hurting people deliberately and strategizing and and robbing people and tricking people. How can you do any, like, it's got to be the exact opposite? In fact, I have to slow myself down and say, "Okay, this guy is just asking for five bucks or 20 bucks. Uh, just give it to him." Like, you got to have faith in Jesus. Jesus could hand you 20. Are you kidding me? He's got, he's got streets paved with gold. He can do anything he wants, man. And, uh, so we got to act in faith. Um, don't tell my wife, but I buy several homeless guys lunch every day, or, you know, not, it's not several every day, but I go through different people all the time, and I'm always buying lunch for people and stuff, and it's 'cause they need it, you know, they're hungry. Um, and so it'd be foolish for me not to think of the loaves and the fishes miracle. You know, God is going to hand us whatever we need when we're doing the Lord's work and feeding hungry people and doing great things. So, what's, what we're supposed to be doing, you know. Yeah. No, you're right. I, I agree with that 100%.

Well, I have no idea how long this went, but let's, uh, let's, uh, I'll call you later, man. Good job, Iggy. You, you sure? Yeah. I mean, that's it. I'm going to stop the recording, but, uh, Okay. Good job. Uh, you guys feel free to text us or write us. I, I'll leave my contact information somewhere. I'm easy to find. You call Thomas. Uh, if you want to get in touch with Iggy, just write me, and I'll, I'll hook you up with him. I'll pass your information to him. Uh, all right. Have a good night or day, whatever you are, wherever you are. And, uh, appreciate it. See you.