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Valentino raced the 250, he asked me to have Bracci race the 250 and you be my manager, and I told him no. Marco, no, Marco was real, meaning he was >> he was more of a goofball, as they say in Romagna, >> meaning if he saw 30 people outside the hospitality asking him for autographs, he'd be eating spaghetti, he'd drop his spaghetti and go there and [music] he took Randy Mamola with Raymond Ros and he's engaged to Emi and we were playing bowling with Nico [music] Cereghini. Carlo, look, we're leaving in a taxi with our suitcases. I said, your life was over, but mine is becoming worse than yours, because it's the first 500 race where you run away and don't race, and if you do, Castiglioni will fire you, me, and send the carabinieri. >> Prosecco, focaccia, and 40 years of never-before-told secrets in the paddock. Today Carlo Pernat spills the beans about his book and MotoGP. Good morning, guys, welcome back to my YouTube channel. I'm back with Carletto. >> Hi everyone. >> He promised we'd have a chat. Here's his book, and he obviously scolded me because I hadn't read it, so I >> I immediately took care of it. >> Bad thing, bad [laughter] thing. And also those who haven't read it among those listening. >> Guys, buy it. I got it on Amazon, so >> some guys complained that we were in the middle of the mess. They were right, they were right, but we had to >> you have to take what comes, you know. And then we had to break the ice. I mean, you liked it. We're on an iceberg. We're on an iceberg. >> On an iceberg. Yes, exactly. Even though it's very hot outside, here in his house. We're It's It's very nice. >> It's better. Yes, it's better. Glasses. Go. [laughter] I've jotted down a few things about the book, which I really encourage you to go and buy and read. We're not going to talk about everything, of course, but I'll cover what you want. >> I'll give you some some pointers that perhaps caught my eye a bit more. We'll also talk a bit about MotoGP. >> Of course, we'll catch up on the situation. We have to, you know, guys, the season. Champions, [clears throat] money, victories, defeats, managers, you've been a manager, >> we were talking earlier about my age, your age, >> a regret, something you'd do again tomorrow, >> or is there still something missing that you wish for? Well, I'll tell you the truth, I live on memories, not regrets. I have many good memories, and even some not-so-good ones, but they are always positive memories. Regrets. Well, if I can mention one regret, but a small one. Good. M >> it was in '90, well, '97, when Valentino raced the 250, if you remember, with Aprilia, he came to my office, asked me to have Bracci and the whole team as technical chief, who was already destined for Rossi, by the way, then he had to do some incredible things to change everything, and he told me, he said, I'll take this team, I'll do the 250, I've already got the contract, >> I'll do the 250, and you be my manager, and I told him no. I said, Vale, no, no, no, because I'm paid by Aprilia, I'm the sporting director, I have a 3-year contract, >> you know, a little regret, if I had said yes, maybe my career wouldn't have been what it was, but it would have been with him. Mh >> mh. So >> a little regret, you know. >> Yes, yes. [sighs] >> You would have earned with him, you know. Eh yes, well, but anyway, there have been >> satisfactions, I believe. >> But I didn't even say a small regret. >> A small regret. A small regret. >> Eh, the thing that struck me and that we talked about earlier, outside of, let's say, outside of the recording >> Yes. is that you have always chosen, throughout your career, at least it seemed to me from reading your book, freedom, meaning you avoided, you went into it, you saw it, but the traditional career, the one many people have, the stable job, you refused it. >> Absolutely refused it. Eh, today there are young people who are stuck, who don't know what to do, maybe some, the luckier ones, who have mortgages, bills, routines, are afraid of making mistakes, don't know which path to take. Eh, what advice would you give to someone who has a dream but can't find the courage to pursue it and try? No, guys, advice should always be given based on what you have done, because if I were 30 today, I couldn't give you advice, I'd be the one asking for it. But you know, I lived through a generation that I think was the best of the 90s, a wonderful generation where I think you could even take leaps of faith, because, for example, my decision to be free meant I >> I quit Aprilia when I was a manager and went to sign a 3-year contract as a freelancer to do what I wanted, >> travel the world and manage companies in sports, riders, but it was a 3-year contract, right, guys, so it was a risk. Eh, my advice is, always try to do what you like. I know it's not easy, I know that sometimes >> it seems like you're saying, you know, I've figured it out. >> But, guys, in life, you always have to do what you like, that famous phrase I tell you, that time doesn't pass. Time arrives. It's a life philosophy. Time doesn't pass. Time arrives tomorrow, and tomorrow you have to do what you want, what you like, or your goal. Obviously, if everyone were like this, we'd all be well off. You have to put in your effort. The advice is, guys, jump into what you like, even try to climb Everest in tennis shoes, >> but get to what you like, because you'll be very >> happy, content in life. >> At least you tried. At least you tried. Valentino himself wrote a book once, saying "Thank goodness I tried." And those who win have to do that, otherwise they don't win. There are many behind-the-scenes stories, I'm talking about the book, about reactions and about some characters and strong personalities that have been there >> and I wanted to know, [clears throat] since you also say strong things, maybe even things that seem a bit secret, but many years have passed, have you received any phone calls from anyone, I'll name one above all, the trips. >> Absolutely not. No, >> no, because it was the truth, so they couldn't >> deny it. Not even a text message, nothing >> no, look, we're even friends with Biaggi now, we're great friends, >> when we saw each other at the racetracks until two years ago, he with Aprilia and me as manager, in fact, one day he hugged me and told me >> 23 or three years ago, you know, when he had a team, if you remember, in the 125 and Moto3, I still call it 125, >> sorry. and he told me "Carlo, what assholes the riders are," and I told him "Max [laughter] you were right." He hugged me and said, "Carlo, you were right." And that made me very happy because Max, in the end, proved to be a very intelligent person. He was difficult to manage because he was tough, a tough Roman, a champion, no doubt about that. And there, I'll tell you the truth, in fact, everyone took my book, and some even called me saying they liked it. In fact, some told me, "Why didn't you talk more about me?" [laughter] there's so much more to say. In fact, Mondadori wants a second book, but I have to think about it, guys. >> And do it for >> I have to think about it. I have to [laughter] think about it. And reading the chapter you dedicated to Marco Simoncelli, >> it's clear, and we understood, we all still understand today, that he remained in our hearts and wasn't just a rider. What was special about him? You knew him, we can only see what came across on television, what was different about him? He had a particular energy that emerged, that stood out. I remember another thing that struck me about the book, >> when you read the message after Sepang, >> when you got off the plane, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, yes, yes, it was in his garden, I remember. >> And yet I'd like to remember him with that word, with that phrase you said, the happy little duck, when you did that, he had this pool where >> it was wonderful. I mean, Marco, I compared him, since he came after Valentino, but they were best friends, I compared him a bit to Valentino because I had Valentino first and him after, you know? And I'll tell you the truth, they had the same way of living, they were very likeable. >> The difference was they were two talents and two champions, >> let's be clear, but the difference was that Valentino was a bit of a sly one, you know. M. >> He spoke in a way that his mother-in-law would understand what he meant. Marco, no, Marco was real, meaning he was >> he was more of a goofball, as they say in Romagna, >> meaning if he saw 30 people outside the hospitality asking him for autographs, he'd be eating spaghetti, he'd drop his spaghetti and go there. >> He really went in, he did these things because he felt like a friend to everyone. But genuinely, you know? Not to get something. No, no, no. >> I've never met anyone like him, I mean, in my life, but also in normal life. Eh, m >> And I must say, then, if I remember when he won that 250 world championship in Malaysia, he was starting in the heat in an incredible way. My goodness, we had made that pool, we had taken water, he was there with a little duck. But it was beautiful. Imagine, guys, he was so out of it that when he finished sixth, seventh in that Malaysian race, he won the championship, I was on the podium waiting for him, he didn't even recognize me. I said, "Marco, I'm Carlo," he was so >> out of it and completely exhausted that >> it was better to stab him than to race when it was so hot. >> Yes. And he was completely gone, but guys, he was someone you had fun with, you really had fun with him on every occasion. He was also a great card player, we used to play games of scopone in the pits, we'd put a bin there. I, he was always with Degannello, his chief mechanic. Yes, his mechanic. >> They were two cheats, >> meaning with cards, look, two cheats, >> I always played with Papa Simo, we had some great games. Imagine, when we went from Australia to Malaysia, we played cards for 6 hours at Melbourne airport before we left. Imagine, I remember it like it was yesterday. >> Do you think he would have liked the world of MotoGP as it is becoming today? >> No. >> Ah, >> no. And he would have tried to change it, that's for sure. He would have tried to change it in every way, and even because, you know, everyone says he was nice, a wonderful person, he was tough, guys. if he set his mind to something, and I don't know if you read when Honda offered him the job, maybe we didn't even tell you in the United States at Indianapolis, and the head of Honda was Nakamoto, along with Livio Suppo. Campo was Nakamoto, Japanese, and they summoned us, it was mid-year because we had made the contract with HRC, >> they summoned us. Suppo wasn't there, it was him and Suppo, who spoke Italian, obviously, because the other one was Japanese. He told us, "So, next year you'll race with the official Honda, but the team will be decided by us with Aligi, and you won't race with Aligi's team." If I can stand up, Carlo, let's stand up and tell these people that the team is mine. If they want me, it's like this, if not, I'm leaving. He walked out in front of Nakamoto and Suppo. But, oh guys, I've never seen anything like it. The next day, Nakamoto chased us down, saying, "No, come back, it's okay." The team remains mine, to tell you how likeable he was, but >> tough, you know? Very tough. >> Goodbye Marco, I greet him gladly. >> Goodbye. >> We did the last trip before the last holidays in July, after the United States, we went for two weeks in America. Me, him, Dad, Mom. Yes, this is written. >> Yes, Paolo Scalera was there, some journalists, his friends, his girlfriend, and he told me it was the best trip of my life. Too bad it was the last. Well, he's in a better place now. Characters outside the paddock. You've met everyone. Tell me about Rendy Mamola, tell me [sighs][clears throat] a crazy guy. >> Eh, his ass is as hard as a guardrail. Thank you. Rendy. >> Where does that story come from? Eh, it's an incredible story because it was '88, so it was the first year he was sporting director at Cagiva 500, and Cagiva signed Randy Mamola along with Raymond Ros, which was an incredible media event because Randy Mamola at Cagiva was the most loved of all riders, a rider who always came second but was always there, nobody believed it, but this is a lot. And the first race was at Suzuka, Suzuka, Japan. And he was engaged to Emi, a spectacle. >> Um, on Thursday, we were playing bowling with Nico Cereghini, Carlo Canzano, some journalists from that period. >> And outside, Nico calls me, says, "Carlo, look, we're leaving in a taxi with our suitcases." I said, "Are you crazy? What the hell are you saying?" I jumped into the taxi, and he was crying, "My life, Carlo, an American, my life is nothing anymore." I said, "Take it, your life will be nothing, but mine is becoming worse than yours, because it's the first 500 race where you run away and don't race, and if you do, Castiglioni will fire you, me, and send the carabinieri." Anyway, he sort of explained the story [sighs] that his girlfriend, Emi, was sleeping with Suzi, and well, so I had to go to his room, his room, >> his room, she was in a bikini, she had an ass that was like a guardrail, not to mention the rest, in the end, I convinced her, let's say that the weekend he spent with Mamola, I don't think he even slept with her, and then on Monday she told him, "I'm leaving." I'm going with San, but at least I saved [laughter] all the contracts and everything, and I also saw a nice ass in the end, you know, eh, another story that remains with me, which seems truly surreal, absurd, is the story of the Menci brothers. If you want to tell me others, but I remember that one. >> Menci is incredible because one day these two guys from Ascoli or the Marche region, I don't remember, showed up at Aprilia, telling me they had something from NASA, from Russia, they had special things that could make you earn two tenths per lap, per corner, and I said, "What the hell is that?" "Well," I said, "let's try." We sent all the chains we had when we raced to Regina, where poor Longoni Aurelio was, who later died, who could testify that nothing happened. And and [clears throat] these two brothers of mine went there, to Regina, and behind this, let's call it paint, we tested the bike. Damn, it was really faster, by 2 or 3 tenths per lap. Only the paint disappeared after a while, you know, it was temporary. Mh. [sighs] >> Damn, guys, it costs money, and I said today, we'll sign the contract. Eh, in fact, the contract cost 30 million, it was a lot of money, and I won't say we won a championship because of it, but it helped. Then they wanted to take advantage, they asked for 300, we told them to go to hell. [laughter] But it's true, eh, it was stuff from Russia that they had taken from space, I don't know how they got it, [laughter] but that happens too. Guys, >> if you could have a prosecco tonight with three people you've met, >> well, >> who are no longer here, perhaps, obviously >> definitely one is Claudio Castiglioni. Castiglioni was a wonderful person, he was a bit like me, he was a third brother, really, with such sympathy and professional ability that he conquered the world. In fact, Cagiva owes a lot to Gianfranco, but also to Claudio for his knowledge, PR work. And Claudio and I had incredible evenings and days, and he's someone I'd always want to be with. Eh, then, of course, I miss Simoncelli, and if Father Eternal came down and told me to bring him back to life, he'd be the first person I'd choose, because I don't know what would have happened next, but we would have done things that were more than wonderful. So definitely Castiglioni and Simoncelli, another person I've been happy with, am happy with, and will always be happy with, like a brother. So, the Scapirossi, the Scapirossi, for me, it's incredible. I once had surgery here, you know, once it was a 5-hour operation, the first person who came to see me at 3 AM the next morning was Lori Scapirossi >> before my daughter, before everything. We truly have a friendship, I worked with him for 14 years, in fact, he always says that with Carlo Pernat, I've always earned a lot of money, thank God. And these are the three people, in my opinion, with whom, if a magician came down and told me, with these three, one is unfortunately dead, but two are dead, one is alive. Manchester second, that's it. Now let's see, guys, maybe, but it's been 3 years, also because he sold 15,000 copies. >> Waiting for Carlo, what >> there will be because this was made in 2018. >> He makes himself desired. >> Eh, there are practically 9 years missing. >> Eh, >> 9 years, I still had Iannone, Bastianini in 2018, >> Arborino, >> you have time for 10 years. >> No, I'll make you half a promise, guys. Half of you. >> We're halfway through the MotoGP season. Let's talk a bit about MotoGP. Shall we bet €1 of ours, not on who we bet on? Well, >> I have a name, I'll say it now. The man to beat for me is Marquez, that's evident, right? Of course. >> Eh, if I have to, I mean, if you pay me [sighs] one to two, >> yes, I'll bet on Marquez because I'll earn one, but I won't earn. >> If there's another bet that gives me 10 or 20, someone, well, I might say Bezzecchi if he gets his head straight. But then, if we have to take stock of the situation, if we want to, [sighs] I'll tell you that Mark, despite having two fewer races because he stopped, has problems because he still has a few, but he has physical ones, eh, he's 33, almost 33, so there are many things. He honestly said once, I don't know if I'll return to who I was before, [sighs] >> it's very difficult because the years go by, and I understand because Rendy Mamola used to tell me something beautiful about his passion: when you're 20, you race with this, when you start to be 30, you race with this, which commands this, which makes you raise or lower it, >> but you can see it in every session that Mark sets the time when he needs to, and that's it >> he's managing all that hell he's been through. >> He says, "I can't fall here because it'll hurt." The hell he's been through. Clearly, he won't be able to >> win like last year until June, July, remember that >> he crushed everyone, but crushed them. If it weren't for that accident with Bezzecchi, unwanted, clearly, >> he would have finished 3000 points ahead. There would have been a record gap because he didn't do the last five or six races. >> I'll tell you something, in my opinion, you know, I feel that he might be aiming more to win it this year than in 2027. >> No, I don't agree with you. They are two different motivations. >> In my opinion, physically he'll be similar and will have costs. >> Eh, they are two different motivations. So, and the year he was happiest was last year. >> Yes. Yes. Because he was coming from a physical and mental mess, >> he freed himself >> and he was racing with 30% more than he was. >> But >> then that's the year that in my opinion >> between this year and next year, eh, he has this year the motivation to win, he has a huge one, and next year he'll have the further motivation of having a phenomenon next to him, because there are three phenomena, eh, they are Marquez, Pedra Costa, and Fabio Quartararo. The rest are all champions. Champions, Bagnaia is a champion, but not a phenomenon. >> Martin is a champion, but not a phenomenon. >> But in your opinion, Bagnaia? Okay, we've said it many times on GP1 too. But no, it's not that. Bagnaia is a champion. Bagnaia has shown that he lacks the tranquility of a champion, the mindset of when someone is beating you. And my fear is that Bezzecchi is also like that, because Bezzecchi, at this moment, I'll tell you the truth, >> I rate Martin higher than Bezzecchi, how is it? >> Of course, because Bezzecchi has two. So, let's tell the story of Bezzecchi, or the story of Bezzecchi. Last year, he raced alone with a team all by himself. M >> m >> Eh, Martin, unfortunately, got injured, then there were problems, I'm leaving, I'm not leaving. And he raced, no offense to everyone, with Salvadori, who is clearly not a rider to win, and he had a team, he was very good at pulling a team behind him, the team behind him pulled him, they were all for him. Then at a certain point, he raced mid-season without Marquez and won, and without Martin, so he didn't have any opponents. Now this year he has Martin in and the other out and Marquez out. And now we have to see if he eventually suffers from these two huge pressures or not. And the management with Rivola, the fact that he's always ahead, that he's coming out, I love him because if he's arrived where he has, he owes it to him. I know the budgets he had, he made some particular choices, sometimes maybe I didn't agree with them, but if he's reached this level, even the choices of Starlacchini, of many people, he's been good, but he's never managed teams like this in his life. Ferrari had young people, it was a different story, Ferrari. And now he's made some mistakes, eh, when he publicly said that Martin made a mistake, and when he said that Bezzecchi made mistakes, these things publicly, you have to wash the riders' dirty laundry at home. Now it creates, so until Hungary, when at Balaton Martin did that stupid thing, the atmosphere at Aprilia was not, guys, it was a golden bubble >> from then on it's a mess. The chief mechanics don't talk to each other, the mechanics look at each other with disdain. Guys, when it's like that, it's a mess, eh. And now it's no coincidence that >> is moving forward because of this internal mess. >> Then you know what else to say? Because they don't want developments, excuse me, Augura doesn't want developments, in fact, he's had a comma for now, he hasn't had it. Maybe it's a stupid thing, maybe not, I don't know, but he, Augura, wants to race with what he has, he doesn't want new things unless they are right and he tries them. Japanese Bu. Exactly the same for Fernandez, but there they owe everything to Brivio. I would have thought, now I'll say something provocative that I hope people understand, I thought that at a certain point Rivola would leave everything in Brivio's hands >> m >> m >> both the official and the satellite team, and he would become CEO like Domenicali does. I think that would have been the right thing to do, especially since Rivola doesn't have this experience of managing such teams. Davide Brivio does. He's won championships, [clears throat] he's brought out riders, he knows how to build a family, and look, he's never criticized a rider. Fernandez saved him. He even said that himself, Fernandez, eh. >> Ogura, he loves him dearly, if you have dirty laundry, you wash it within the family. M >> m >> And here, they need to get a bit of a grip. He arrives, you see that lately he's been a bit withdrawn, he speaks little, even that time he said "I'm happy as a clam," you can't say that, come on. Ducati >> how can you? Come on, Ducati, gentlemen, you didn't say anything, they won the next Sunday, second and third, they were silent, come on. Those are things I don't understand, but everyone can do what they want. >> [sighs] >> That said, he was very good because reaching those levels, with those budgets, wasn't easy. Eh, >> in your opinion, the issue of how it ended between Pecco and Ducati, if you had been Pecco's manager, could it have unfolded differently or >> No, it should have ended immediately. It would have been better if it had ended sooner. Yes, >> I would have reached an agreement with It's inevitable that he won't do anything else. >> There was no way >> No, no, he started with Marquez. So >> and even now that he says he doesn't feel grip, that he has grip problems, that everyone, Alex Marquez would have done well. >> It's been like this for two years, come on. Since Marquez arrived, I remember we were at Mugello, when Gigi informed me, and also me, that Marquez was the one, not Martin, but Marquez. I was there with Bagnaia, Bastianini. Bagnaia, my God, was furious. >> And even now, they always show them talking to each other, that it's all, it's all a show. A show, you can chat, but they say what they think. Goodnight. A show >> and what a night, but it's normal, come on. I mean, Bagnaia, guys, the team is the same, the chief mechanic is the same, the engineers are the same, the bikes, eh, come on, do you think that suddenly, psychologically, seeing Marquez nearby and having developed a part of the bike for Mark has been a blow to him? I would have finished at the end of the year because this year he'll do these things you see. Yes, >> that they told me, questions that were sometimes asked to me on Sky and GP, guys, this is Bagnaia, as long as Marquez is there this year, maybe yes, maybe one or two races he'll do, but in the end, he can't finish sixth or seventh and be happy. Bagnaia has to win and get on the podium. [clears throat] >> We'll see what happens at Aprilia. But I'll give him credit for one thing, I'll give Bagnaia credit for one thing, that in all this mess of riders who have made crazy mistakes, see Martin going to Yamaha, see Ogura going to Yamaha, to me it seems that >> Then you have to divide into two categories, >> those who go to win, those who go for money. But the majority go for money, except [clears throat] Marquez when he went, well, good. But Bagnaia, I respect him because he went to Yamaha before Martin, remember? They offered him 5.5 million, eh, he said no, he went to Aprilia, they offered him half, he took half with bonuses, and he believes in it, >> but good, good, very good. >> He chose a winning bike to go and win, to get back at Ducati and at Marquez. It's clear, right? That's very clear. If he had gone to Yamaha, he wouldn't have done anything, you know how it is then, eh. Instead, he put himself on the grid, and I give him credit for that, he was very, very good. >> Well, it was the best opportunity there was, also because I'm of the opinion that currently >> Exactly. >> I'm of the opinion that Aprilia is ahead right now because when it finishes ahead, it finishes very far ahead. >> Well, yes, but not on all circuits. On the faster ones, yes, >> on the slower ones, no. But I have to say that m >> and more than anything, Marquez is pushing forward the last two times, Giannantonio, if he were more consistent >> if he started a bit better, he could fight for something because he's strong, but he's missing something. Someone who does 30, but doing 30 is difficult, he doesn't do 31, he doesn't do 31. You see he starts badly, starts sixth, even if he's second, then he comes up well with incredible times, but if you're always sixth, seventh, you don't win, that's how it is with today's MotoGP, maybe next year will be different, >> but compared to the times we remember, because even though I seem young, I'll be 43 in November, >> lucky him, young man, >> eh, when we remember the various Biaggi, Capirossi, >> Vale, Vale. Yes, >> they are people, they are personalities that will always remain. Today, objectively, someone who follows MotoGP perhaps only a little >> Yes, yes, I agree. >> With Liberty Media, what do they plan to do with these personalities, these riders who don't even have the strength to stand their ground? >> You have to, you have to understand that the world has changed, the world has changed, the people managing it have changed, because we owe a lot to Dorna for motorcycles, eh. In '92, when Dorna arrived, they were gypsies, eh, because we had blue pants, yellow shirts, the teams were all gypsy-like. Eh, Carmelo Ezpeleta arrived in '92, in a battle with Estone, I remember. And he wanted me to become president. There's a whole story behind it. I still sided with Dorna, even though Estone went to my office in London and told me, "You will be the president of IRTA." Geoffery also came, he told everyone, he called Tin with him behind, and I was sitting there. Then, because he had a lot of friends in the old, the old IRTA, I declined, I went to London and told him no, and he respected me, saying, "I understand, Carlo," and Dorna won and did a lot. Eh, Dorna did everything for motorcycles. We have to thank them both for pushing the riders and for organizing the Grands Prix by telling the riders what they wanted, because at least Speletta, until this year, until this year, always decided according to what the riders told him. He invented the Safety Commission, all this stuff, Dorna's work. Eh, so all these riders felt present, and they were that generation that was very likeable. It was a beautiful generation with beautiful bikes, the whole system was growing. Now, for the first time, Carmelo, who sold the majority to Liberty Media, has spoken about street circuits without telling the riders, for the first time. >> Yes, >> for the first time >> street circuits then distance the >> If you talk to me about it, I'll throw a bomb. Street circuits, I'll throw a bomb. Phillip Island, eh, >> but yes, but it's also the riders' fault, I've said it a thousand times, form an association, test it. The only one who had, the only one who said he didn't like this serious world was Stoner, maybe who else >> So they should have put up €10,000 each, eh, that's €240,000 a year, they would have gotten, if Pernat was still well, Olivio Suppo, I'm naming someone at random, people who are there and know the world, they would have said, "You represent us riders, you go to the meetings, and you can relax." Now they risk being puppets and being taken for a ride even more, because they're also talking about Miami, not just attention. So, if I were a rider, I wouldn't even think about it, are we crazy? >> Just seeing them ride in Bala, with >> come on, Subia, we've seen things, we've seen Goiania with a hole. But guys, my God, I've still seen things in '88, '89, '90. Eh, >> yes, >> eh, come on. I mean, if here, I wouldn't want to, because in '92, >> but everything, but the rule about tire pressures, I mean, so many things come to mind that any enthusiast, you and I, if we sat down, wouldn't come up with. >> Also remember that when you change things mid-operation, it means you haven't been able to make regulations. >> Ah, well, yes, yes. See the distances, see the front lowerings. If you change them mid-operation, it means everything is wrong. It doesn't happen anywhere else to change regulations, you change them at the end of the year. >> Of course, >> but are we really kidding? I'm quite negative about this. Obviously, if you're watching, well, it seems like someone has finally rebelled, but we were >> 90% sure that next year there would be only one bike >> in practice. That's crazy. >> Now it seems that the manufacturers, some of the manufacturers, I think Aprilia, >> but the sprint thing, which not even Formula 1, all the sprints, >> it's the ruin, the ruin of the riders, there are 44 Grands Prix. >> Yes, 44 starts. >> Which means? Bravo, look how many, but remember we were already saying that? >> Yes, yes. >> See how many go to the hospital? How many fractures are four times more than in previous years. But damn, Formula 1 does six, they're not stupid, they're smarter. They do six where maybe they're needed from a financial point of view, I don't know, here, and think that even the mechanics are now rebelling, eh, they're starting to discuss that beyond a certain type of hours >> of working hours. Yes. >> Eh, well, you're right, come on, because then it's the rider's safety, something happens to him, eh, there's everything to consider, I don't like it. I saw that Kthe seems to have even asked Aprilia for help to open the engines for the engines. But what, changing the rules again mid-operation? Come on, guys, let's not kid ourselves. >> Apart from Acosta, I'd say it's a bit obvious to talk about him. Which young rider? Also because in Italy I heard that Valentino is now starting again with >> thank goodness >> there's nothing, no one, >> the film doesn't do anything, Italian championships don't bring >> they talk about this Lunetta, this Pini, these people. But guys, we need to follow the footsteps of the Spanish, >> meaning our generation is over, Italians, then >> but you see, in Spain it's never ended because there's, for example, a Martinez who has >> trains technicians, trains riders, it's an >> it's a company now, Martinez. Eh, guys, we need people like that. Valentino has done, guys, Valentino has knelt down because all the riders who are racing now were from VR46, and Bezzecchi, Bagnaia. The only one who wasn't from VR46 was Bastianini. >> Morbidelli. What is Morbidelli doing? Going back to Superbike, exactly. He's going back to Superbike. Superbike. Is he finished there? How is he finished? Well, there will be a generational change a bit early because, in my opinion, some of the Moto2 riders who are moving up aren't ready, but you know, the bike will be different with fewer electronics, so easier. But many old riders are leaving. Rins will leave. Eh, Miller will leave, Morbidelli will leave, you know, they're old now, you know? So, let's talk about something, guys. In our time, we did the world championship with 15 or 16 Grands Prix. We went out, eh, we didn't go to Malaysia, America, eh, there were no Sprints, the riders were human beings who circulated, talked, and eh, now you do, I repeat, eh, 44 starts, 22 Grands Prix, are we crazy? And the pressure, a world championship, the 2026 season is worth three world championships of the past, meaning what Biaggi, Valentino did, a third of what these guys do. These guys are messed up from Thursday to Sunday. You don't see them anymore, >> they have interviews at 9 AM, they have races, they have to kill themselves on Friday to set times. Even the starting grid made only on Friday, which counts for Sunday, is a stupid idea. Come on, do it for the, for that, it counts for the sprint. But even the qualifying, you have to do it based on time, if you only have two who pass. But then if it counts for Saturday's race, and maybe Saturday's finish counts for Sunday's starting grid >> or the time in the race, like that, not like that. >> And who is overrated? An overrated rider, an underrated one? >> So, underrated, but he's no longer Ogura. Who is, who refused 4 years ago to move to MotoGP, if you remember, Honda offered him the official bike. He said, "That bike is not competitive, and I'm not moving." I remember a Moto2 rider who refused a Honda 1500. >> But, but apart from when, when, indeed, it was different times for me, I can say they were more beautiful when there was 125 and 250, two-strokes, Biaggi, anyway, he stayed longer in 250. Yes, but I agree, and I'll remember it because the 250 was formative >> but it's not a category that's considered, no, it was formative, you moved up to 500 with ease. >> So Ogura is a bit underrated. Overrated. >> Eh, you know, overrated, someone there is. Someone there is. Maybe Morbidelli >> I was saying. I don't understand. Apart from the fact that >> Morbidelli, yes, because one year >> one year isn't enough to have four bad ones. Exactly. >> So it means you're overrated, maybe with that accident on the knee, it probably cost him, >> but I have to say he's a bit overrated too, and in my opinion, Marini as well, eh, because Marini is someone who sets up bikes, he's intelligent, but he's the only one who, when he had bad luck, had never won a Grand Prix, eh, guys. >> If his brother wasn't there, maybe. Well, I don't know, but I'm not saying it because, God forbid, I'm happy he's going to Tech3 and not staying unemployed. Here, >> I'm telling you now, he's going to Tech3, so you know, he's a young rider, >> a rider to take to dinner, one to manage, and one to go on vacation with. Rossi, Biaggi, if Simoncelli were here, Marquez, Bagnaia. Simoncelli, well, yes, you went on vacation with him. >> Yes, let's put aside for a moment that we've already said that. We've already done that. I'd be curious about Marquez. Marquez for sure, >> because he's a nice guy, he knows how to have fun, I'm sure he'll take him on vacation with him. >> How much, in your opinion, will be constructed, studied in what he says, or is it really, to me he always seems so sincere, >> no, no, he tells a few lies, >> but he tells them, but you forgive him because he's nice, you know, you tell them well. >> Yes. you tell them well. No, so, I >> seems genuine, but >> eh, yes, I'd go on vacation with him. Yes, >> one of those, I'd go. Then you told me one who doesn't >> eh, dinner. >> Well, dinner, Valentino >> with Vale. >> I'd have a lot of fun. >> And to manage? >> Eh, to manage >> you could say others too, actually. Eh, >> but no. To manage >> today. Which rider would you like to manage today? I'd manage Bastianini, look, or even, >> rather than Bastianini, with whom we've done something, more than Arborino, because in my opinion, he has incredible technique, talent, but with his head, he hasn't managed to >> I'm really sorry that Bastianini didn't stay at Ducati because >> he couldn't. Where he had, he had the biggest bad luck of his life because >> because of that thing, because of Marini's first corner of the sprint race, he lost 6 months, but the scapula, then for a rider, because he's missing the 2003 >> that year [clears throat] he, if he had been well, I'm convinced that with Bagnaia he would have fought for the championship for both years, then he could have won, I don't know, I can't say today. But he was very unlucky, that thing, in my opinion, played a part in his career. >> Yes, I think so too. >> Bye guys. >> Guys, we'll see you again. >> Well, we've done about an hour. >> We've done almost an hour, guys. 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