Transcription
Hello everybody and welcome back to Buckle Up. It's the love of attorney, Larry Foreman. Folks, today I have something very special for you all. Some of you may have heard about the California case back in October 2023 when a young man was traveling down PCH Pacific Coast Highway in California and crashed and killed four Pepperdine students.
Now, I have just recently become familiar with this case, and the only reason it is on my radar is because Allan Jackson, none other than Allan Jackson from the Karen Reed case, is representing our culprit. His name Frasier Bomb. Now, Mr. Bomb is a young 23-year-old individual who has been charged with four counts of murder with a lesser included manslaughter. He was not under the influence. He was not drunk. There was no complicity or intent on his part. So, how can the prosecution can be pushing for murder? I mean, at the end of the day, there is no question there are four dead Pepperdine students. And by the way, Alan Jackson went to Pepperdine University, so he is familiar with that area. He's from California, as uh most of you know by now. He specifically went prohviche in the Karen Reed case in Massachusetts. But I don't want to leave it all up to myself because I am still getting acquainted with this case. So today I bring you a very special guest. Her name is Ari Jacob. She has been following this case for quite some time. She is familiar with Bomb's family and Bomb himself. So without further ado, allow me to introduce you to Ari.
Hey Ari.
Hello. How's it going?
Good. Good. So, what can you tell us about this case? Cuz I I I saw that you people are calling you the turtle boy of uh the girl actually or turtle girl.
Turtle girl. Aiden Carney is to Karen Reed is what Ari Jacob is to Frasier Bomb. I had to deal with some sort of unfair media attention in the past. I sued the New York Times for it. And so I get somewhat triggered when I see that somebody is just being treated unfairly in the media. And though I absolutely feel terrible for the four families that had to endure those losses, I also don't believe that just because a powerful entity or media company or, you know, because the prose because a DA or prosecutor says something that it's automatically true. And so when I see cases where maybe somebody's treated unfairly, I like to speak up. And so that's really what got me interested in this case and in this situation and then um you know I think I've seen online how people are treating Fraser's family and it's like this kid made one mistake and um they're like really throwing the book at him. I think it's to obfuscate the responsibility of Malibu and fixing a very very dangerous road that killed over 60 people. I think so this is very important and I want to come back to this. So let's put a bookmark. Let's go back. Tell our audience if you don't mind what exactly happened in October. What's the story? Everybody wants to know the story. How did it happen?
So, from what I understand, u Frasier was driving down PCH. He wasn't drunk or high or I don't even think he was on his phone. I think they did analysis to to figure that out. But anyway, he's driving down and there was four girls from Pepperdine. I believe they were in a sort. And they get out of their Uber and he loses control of the car. I believe is going witnesses say was going around 70 and a 45. And this road, by the way, is like a highway, there's no really stop. There's not a lot of stop lightss on it. So, people drive on it like it's almost like a freeway. Um and uh but it's like a very scenic kind of iconic if you if you've ever been to California, that's where people want to drive to because the beach is right there, right? And so, um, he ran into the four girls and they lost their lives. And then, wait, he kills all four of them like on the spot, like on impact or do they what what do you know the details?
I I think it was just immediate. Yeah. Like, wow. That must have been I mean, that's some impact to kill four. I mean, one of them you might imagine, you know, if you're going maybe Left Alive with you're basically on a you know, what do they I don't know what they call it in in on the East Coast, but yeah, like freeway that you're going. Yeah. You know, that's the fastest that I don't know. It's not like a side road or something like that. It's it's it's basically like if you could just walk on the side on the sidewalk on a freeway. It's so weird, you know, that they haven't like but there's no media in there. And I guess that he so he had a brain bleed at that point. Um and he was sitting in the car and he was there was another driver earlier. They said that that driver his name was Victor Colandra. He had he was driving a truck and he had says that he pulled up to uh Frasier at a stop sign before the accident.
What's that? Before the accident. Before the accident, Victor Kandra says under oath that he uh stopped at a stop sign next to Frasier and basically screamed at or said to him, "Hey, something along the lines of," you're going to hurt yourself or someone like, "Get off your phone." He says he saw a cell phone in his lap and he thought he could have been texting. Then they, you know, I don't know how they sped up to the, you know, what the distance was, but then at that point that he sees Frasier crash, he I think Frzier said that he dragged him out of the car and like screamed at him. And even in the pre-trial transcripts, uh, one of the witnesses says that he saw um they saw somebody basically screaming at Frasier, "Hey, you mfer, look something about mfer." That's what I heard. and then basically sits there with him until the police come. So, I don't know. People say have said that he was trying to flee or get away, but none of the court documents that I've seen show that Frasier was trying to leave the scene. Um, yeah, this guy Victor has, I think, changed his story a couple times and I believe he has a former road rage incident in the past uh where he I think
Oh, really? a physical altercation with someone. So anyway, they keep him. Did Frasier know this that Victor has gotten into some previous altercations before?
They talk about it in the pre-trial hearing. Okay. The his original attorney was a guy named Michael Kraut. Uh they talk about that. There's not a lot. I mean, do you want to expl Why is there like a pre-trial thing? Does that shown in court or how does that work?
So, from my understanding, California is vastly different than the rest of the country, as I'm sure you know, in in many different aspects and and court proceedings included. That's what confused me the most when I first heard about this case from you yesterday because I in my research, I was under the impression that his jury trial starts on August 28th. But then somebody corrected me in the comments. I actually had to issue a correction because I was like, "Wait a minute, not his jury trial. His arraignment is scheduled for August 28th, 2025." And then my lawyer brain went, "Wait a minute. The accident happened like 22 months ago. Why is he being arraigned arraigned 22 months after the fact?" And from what I understand, California does their preliminary hearings and they take them very, very seriously. And the way that California law approaches the situation is first something that more prosecutors I think could actually learn from to be completely honest with you which no system is perfect but this is this is better than most systems because for instance in Kentucky if this happens you are going to have a preliminary hearing within 10 days of your arrest. 10 days. And of course you can get it pushed out but I mean it's there's only so far you can go. From what I understand, what happened with Frasier in his case, the prosecutors have been providing all sorts of discovery before the preliminary hearing. They are literally preparing for a preliminary hearing that's kind of like a mini jury trial to determine whether or not there is sufficient probable cause to charge the kid with four counts of murder. I mean, at the end of the day, they charged him with murder, which requires at the very least if they charge him with murder second, requires maybe not malice of forethought, which is murder first, but it is going to require some sort of intent. And I think the prosecution is going to use the alleged speed, which they are claiming was 104. According to the blackbox, from my research, this is what I have found. They're going to charge him with murder because they can they think they can show intent based on his speed. I I don't know. It's It's a It's a real stretch when you really think about it, especially when you take into consideration that others like Caitlyn Jenner, for instance, have also been involved in accidents leading to fatalities and then later not being charged. Now, I think Jenner's case is a little bit different because uh Jenner's blackbox was shown that she was hitting her brakes allegedly and slowing down and trying to avoid a collision and it ended in a collision anyway. Whereas with uh Bomb, the the problem with him is that he was going a little too fast according to the prosecution. Now, the defense is and Allan Jackson are going to be claiming road rage. So, basically all of that Yeah, just about two years him doing the road rage because I think people are confused. It's like they were the defense is basically saying that he was cut off andor provoked by another driver and lost control.
Thank you for clarifying. Go ahead. He was like really like out uh I think it was his birthday on that night. So I think it was his 21st birthday or uh maybe the night before he turned 21. And so he was just getting tacos for his friends and you know this happened and that you know it's basically um I think it's for me it's hard to compare him to the consequences I think of murder if he gets convicted of that. It's like 15 years to life per person. And are you going to charge this kid and have the same consequences as like literally Brian Cobberger you know? Right. I mean, oh, four victims in each one and what is what the difference maker is between the two cases. Right. Right.
So, Ari, you started to tell us about PCH, uh, California Pacific Highway. Can you tell us a little bit more about the highway itself and the deaths that have been accumulating on that road and why and how?
Yeah, and there's been several since uh the Frasier accident. From what I can tell, it's just people are going too fast on that road and especially this happened at night with Frraasier and so that's even more dangerous because I think there's police officers and CHP uh that are giving tickets and things like that but there is very few CHP is California Highway Patrol for those of you and there's very few uh street light or stop lights and stop signs I think then they've done very little to like fix the issue. They're they've put uh I think they painted some lines on the on the roadway so that it makes it seem like you're going faster than you are and makes you want to slow down. But it just seems like the infrastructure is not right. And as a lot of people know, a lot of that couple years ago, it looked very different uh because Malibu obviously was affected by the California fires. And so I think if there was any a time to fix that stretch of highway, which people call dead man's curve, it would be Oh, wow. Um, you know, now and and maybe put up some medians, and put up um those I forget what they're called, but they're like those big metal kind of um like dividers or u posts. I forget what they're called. so that you can't it's almost like a a wall so that there's you can't like run into somebody that's walking because I really like it's so dangerous. There's no way to really to cross from the other side, but people are going to the beach and there's restaurants right there. So it it doesn't seem like that should be set up that way. If the if people are bombing down it, you know, it I definitely I think for people to go 60 on that would not be you wouldn't feel like you were speeding, but you are.
What's the speed limit there?
45. I think it's 45. It's between 45 and 50 depending on what part of the road you're on. Wow. That's that is fairly slow when you think about it. when most highways are at least 55 and most highways are even, you know, 60 or 75 around the country.
Yeah, I guess you kind of have to have been there to to understand how it what it is. But obviously 60 people have died, I think since 2010. And Calrans has said that they're implementing these things. They've I believe they have the funding to do it, but if you go back and look, it's like what have they actually done? And so I believe that there's a couple lawsuits. The uh the victim's parents are suing the city of Malibu and now the city civily and now the city of Malibu has turned around and is suing Frraasier Bomb and his uh parents.
Really? Well, that makes sense. Uh in a vacuum, uh it doesn't make any sense at all when you think about it logistically. Why is the city going to be suing the one person who, you know, and and look, I I find this case very fascinating because on the one hand, you have four victims. You have four dead young females who are just out and about, you know, like you said, from a sorority, college kids, college students, just trying to have some fun, going out to a party. And on the other hand, you have an individual who's driving at night on a very dangerous road on a very dangerous highway, a highway where many people have been killed. And it just so happens that he kills them. Now, uh some of you in the comments uh to my post on Twitter rightfully pointed out, and I do not want to discount your position by any stretch of the imagination, there should be accountability 100%. There should be culpability 100%. But where is the line drawn? Where is the line in the sand? I mean, do we get this kid for murder? If so, how do you prove intent? I mean, maybe manslaughter. A lot of you seem to concede like yes, should he should get something maybe uh manslaughter at most. I don't know what manslaughter is in California. 1 to five, maybe 5 to 10, something like that per victim. And again, is it right for him to be serving a lengthy prison sentence if he does get convicted of these charges, or is is he a victim of circumstance? And of course, there's the the central piece of all this, but anybody who is going to be looking at this case is going to find out very quickly. This kid is on out on a $4 million bond. So, parents have money. This is a not a speculation. He's a a a a son of a rich family, the son of rich parents. That is a fact. Very few people on this planet can post a $4 million bond for their child to get out while the case is pending.
I think I think the judges the money you think it would be like $400,000 you'd have to put down to or like a percentage of that if if
Well, you would have to request the court to 10% it. Yes. And the court can grant it or they can deny it. It's still a lot of money.
Exactly. I'm assuming the court kind of made a statement. They're like $1 million per victim. That's my hypothesis. I could be wrong about this, but you know, usually murder cases are about a million. Even in Kentucky, they range from quarter million to a million bond. This is an issue that all the media has picked up, which I think is so unfair that okay, yes, it's a privileged person perhaps, and yet what does that have to do with anything, right? I mean, obviously the fact that he's out on bond, but the thing is it's like this I believe that the justice system is so that you know if somebody's doing something bad that they don't do it again, and they don't go out and hurt other people or they don't have but this is somebody that was not drinking and driving. And I want to say I have to look through the documents but I think they already looked at his phone and that they said he wasn't texting and he wasn't on his phone. they can look at that information because if he was then you know that they would have the prosecutors probably would have already put it in there right and so I didn't any of that I don't believe that that was a factor I think this witness um I'm question you know, I'm interested in learning more about the the people that were there because I think one person left the scene um I think it'll be interesting to get more into the pre-trial hearings and and what was said but what bothers me is that people are it's not like a eat the rich moment like this is somebody's life, right? And although people lost their lives, he wasn't Brian Cobberger or out there like looking to hurt somebody. I mean, that's just it's not right to just because somebody he can't he didn't choose his parents. And then what they did, the media is they went in and they looked at his parents' divorce proceedings, which I didn't even know you could do this, and they basically were able to say, "Oh, he was gifted the BMW by his dad um on his 18th birthday." It was like a 2016 BMW and I guess he got a full ride to college. The dad was like, "Okay, if you get a full ride, then you know, I'll get you a car basically," which I mean, I'm from California. I was I wasn't born there, but I was raised in California, went to San Diego State, and like a lot of kids have way cooler cars than 2016 BMW. But so, I'm not like defending that, but at the same time, I'm just like, what does it have to do with anything? Yes. The fact I guess the privilege that he's not in jail right now, but I'm not like worried that he was going to go out and like do this again, right? Because it's just it's it could I I really believe it could happen to anybody. And then the prosecutors going out there and saying that it was 104 miles an hour. That's also troubling. And there was an um some experts that have been commenting and looking at the situation. And so basically the 104 per hour thing came from wheel speed. So, if a car is airborne, the wheels speed can track at 100 miles 104 miles an hour. Does that make sense? Yes. It's kind of hard for me to explain it because I'm not an expert in that, but that makes sense to me. That's that was the wheel speed. The other um factors, I forget what they were. They the two other factors I think put him at like 70 miles an hour or just under, which is still speeding, but it's not 104. And the other thing too is I think that it would been have been impossible for him to get up to 104 miles an hour if two witnesses put him at about 70. How was he gonna go from uh a stop sign and then to 70 mph and have been next to the other driver and then all of a sudden get to 104. Exactly.
So, Ari, there is a lot of interesting speculation surrounding this case because on the one hand, as I started to say, you know, we have four uh dead young women who were college students and on the other, you have a young male who is, you know, being charged with the murder of those four. I brought up Caitlyn Jenner as an example. Do you know how old the victim was in Caitlyn Jenner's uh vehicular homicide?
Ari, no. He was 70. He was a 70year-old male. And I can't help but wonder if they're trying to make Frasier into like a poster boy for whatever reason and like targeting him because four young females versus one riggedy old 70-year-old man nobody cares about. I don't know. It's It's starting to weigh a little bit. You know, I don't want to be some conspiracy theorist or anything like that, but uh this brings me to Gascon. He was a former DA. So, a former DA. All right. So, here's what one user had to say. This is Hey, Nikki. She says, "I think murder is a step too far, especially when most of the accidents that have occurred in that very spot under the same conditions have been charged far more leniently than Frraasier has." Uh, District Attorney Gason was being called out for being too soft on crime and he was facing a contentious re-election. Remember we talked about this Ari charged bomb based on public pressure and personal motivation, not based on the typical charges for the 60 plus other deaths that occurred in that very spot of PCH, the law or the facts. Bomb wasn't driving drunk and he stayed at the scene and rendered help as best that he could. He didn't run off. He didn't flee the scene. He was cooperative with law enforcement. I thought murder requires premeditation with malice of forethought. You bring up a very good point, Nikki. Show me where he planned this. Show me where he knew the victims and their whereabouts at that time and date. Show me where he had any interactions with the victims leading up to their deaths. Show me where he planned to kill anyone at any time. Nothing about this case screams murder. Vehicular manslaughter I can get behind, but not murder. What do you think about that, Ari?
Yeah, I mean that that part is just wild to me. I think he may have made some statements like to the cops or the paramedics when they arrived. And again, like he had a brain bleed, so I don't know what is ultimately going to be, you know, what can be allowed about what he said. Do you know anything about that? like if somebody is um speaking to police or something and they have like a brain bleed or something like that.
Well, sure. If you have a concussion, a brain bleed, anything that would make you speak and say things that may not be uh coherent or concurrent with reality. Uh sometimes from a very bad concussion, you can also have delusions. I mean, this is extremely common. Uh, I have clients who get arrested for DUI on a regular basis when there is an accident. The police officer will just conduct field sobriety tests like nothing happened. You know, I had one case where I think the guy started bleeding out of his ear in the middle of field sobriety test and the officer notices it and he literally goes, "Hey, I think you got some stuff coming out of your earbud." Anyway, so back to the steps. They don't care. The the police don't care at all. They will question you. They will interrogate you. They will do do their job, quote unquote, and it's horrible. It's horrible that your rights basically as soon as you are accused of a crime, your rights go out the window as a as a civilian. It's very unfortunate, but it's true. And I've seen it so many times, it'll make your head spin.
Have you or someone you love been injured as a result of someone else's negligence or worse, lost a loved one because of it? I am attorney Larry Foreman and myself and my team of trial lawyers are ready to help you to get the absolute maximum compensation permissible under the law. We know the system. We understand how to win anywhere in the United States 24 hours a day. 1844774 hurt. Call us. We can help.
Yeah. So, I think what I heard was that he like said, you know, they're ask he's basically out of it. He's in shock. There's a guy that like drags him out of the car and was like screaming at him. This, you know, the kid is in shock. He sees what just happened and I can only imagine like you're just like, "What just happened?" Like, you know, I mean, it's it's terrifying and it's terrible what what happened. But if they were I think they were I don't know if they at this point they were asking him questions or if he said it in the past but basically I think he had um like a best friend who had passed away in a in a car accident. So, I think that they asked him like, you know, aren't you aware of what what speeding can do or what car accidents can do? And he might have said like, "Yeah, my friend died from this." And so, I don't know if they're using that as well to say like he knew.
What does that have to do with anything? His knowledge that it's a dangerous road. He's trying to get away from someone who is acting a fool and could actually cause him to wreck in a different direction. He was trying to get away from somebody, as I understand it. Is that right?
Yeah, that's what he said. that basically this guy in the truck was This is what Frrazier said. Yeah. Um that he was being followed or that he was driving recklessly. And then who was driving recklessly?
I believe that Victor Colandra, the witness that dragged him out of the car, was the one that was already sort of having some kind of anger issue. That that's the one that said he was on his phone and he like screamed at him. Uh, but I believe he was like uh basically like chasing him and chasing Frasier.
Chasing Frasier and Frasier tried to kind of like speed up to get out of his way. There was another car there. So Frasier was speeding up to get out of Victor's way.
Correct. But not 104.
No. At most 70, which is still speeding, but it's not 104.
Yeah. So, I think, you know, I think we can get into those transcripts because it's it's hard it's hard to follow because you don't get to really see there's video footage that they show in the pre-trial thing and I don't I wasn't able to see that. So, um I think maybe you know two people are looking at it. There was another car as well, another witness that I think left the scene. I'm not sure yeah if um the defense was asking like if they had clipped Frasier's mirror. Um, but there was also another another car there. So, I believe like at the actual when this was all going down, there was three cars. There was Frasier's white BMW, there was a GMC truck, and then there was another I want to say it was a Honda Civic, but I can't I can't remember. Um, so, and it'll be important to break down like who was all there. And then the other thing is when all this happened, they I don't believe that they investigated like was Victor Kandra on his phone? Was the other car person on their phone? How fast were they going? You know, because I think it's very easy like if you let's say three cars Yeah. are on the road and there's an accident and it's very clear that one car hits four girls, right? What are the other two people going to do? I didn't do it. It was that guy, right? like you don't want to have any culpability at all. So to me it makes sense and I'm not blaming those witnesses at all. I don't know enough details to say exactly what happened. I'm I'm just going through all this, you know, because there's interest in this case. So I'm going through all this and but my point is it don't you think it's worth asking like what were those other people were those other people on the phone? Were they speeding? Right. What were they doing?
Exactly. What have you been able to find out since this case. case. I understand that you have been in communication with uh Bomb and his family.
I mean, I'm not actually in direct communication with them. I just like I met um uh Frasier briefly and honestly um I just Yeah, I just I I don't think he's like a monster by any, you know, by any means. Like I just don't understand how somebody could, you know, make a mistake on a road that I'm telling you, everybody goes 55, 65 on that road that I've seen. I mean, not everybody, but a lot of people do. I'm not saying that's okay. I'm just saying there's an issue with that. He wasn't a drunk. I think like, have you heard of like the Henry Rugs? He was a a Raider football player, and he was uh he killed drunk driving a woman and her dog. And anyway, I think he's about to get out of jail. It's only been a few years. He's actually even saying he's going to go back to the NFL. Um there was another like influencer that was driving down PCH. I think she was at um the famous sushi place. I forget what it's called. Uh in Malibu and drinking and she had something.
What's that? Is it? Yeah. Summer was her name. Summer something. Yeah. And she was charged with vehicular manslaughter like but she was under the influence as I understand.
Right. Yeah. under the influence. Yep. But that seems normal. If you're under the influence, you have a level of culpability. And I think the prosecution is trying to paint Bomb as this monster, as you, you know, you call him. He's not a monster. They're saying, well, yes, he is because he intentionally sped up and thereby causing an accident in a road that he knew the dangers of. He has more culpability because he knew what he was doing. And I'm just like, how? Maybe. I don't know. I that's but so how does uh Gascon come into all of this from your research?
Well, he didn't get reelected. Now it's Nathan, but but how did he use bomb? How did he use Frasier for his own campaign, I guess, is what I'm asking.
Well, I think there was just like a big uproar obviously like like you said from the families of the victims. Yeah, there's four beautiful women that that um were killed and but you know they're not happy with the city of Malibu either and I side with them on that. Then the city is suing Frraasier. So to me it just to me it feels like they're trying to skirt responsibility. Don't look over here, look over there, right? Because if we actually look into what has happened on PCH and what's been done, I think we would see like it's giving, you know, there's no water in the, you know, in the in the uh when Malibu burned down, why isn't there any water in the water tanks? Like it that's the the vibe it's giving me is like, why haven't we fixed this road that we know is dangerous? Like let's just point over here and blame um Fraser and driving and blah blah blah. Yeah. It's just to me that's not right.
So, what I think we should do now, Ari, is uh I think we should get our hands on some of those transcripts and I want to do this again and I want to start going through the case to get, you know, the devil's in the details as we always say and I want to do a deep dive with you if you don't mind on on my channel, your channel, we can do whatever.
It's been kind of crazy to be honest because I first posted on Tik Tok and it's clear that a lot of the family um a lot of the friends and family of the four girls are on Tik Tok and they were really unhappy about the fact that I was posting on there and it like really breaks my heart because I don't want to fight I I don't want to be fighting with the families that what happened is terrible but at the same time if they were fed this number they keep saying in the comments like 104 miles an hour, 104 miles an hour and there's nuance to this and it's not exact, you know, to me it's like if the wheels are spinning at 104 miles an hour after the crash then people need to say that. I mean what's the truth is the truth whether you like it or not right and it's it doesn't and the issue before lives were lost but the issue the issue with 104 ju just for those of you who may be lost in the audience watching this right now is that there is discrepancy the 104 is not a hard and fast number as I understand the extraction from the blackbox can be inaccurate and misleading depending on the way it's extracted, the way it's analyzed. So this that's where Allan Jackson comes in. He is going to try, I suppose, and figure out this 104 number, bring in experts to explain why the 104 is incorrect. So you can't hang your head on this 104 like they're doing because it may not be accurate.
Right. Right. And there was I think there's also numbers that say there was like unknown or like something it didn't it didn't track. Um, because computers make mistakes can get into. But yeah, I I I think that it's going to be easy. That's going to be the prosecution's biggest problem is to prove that he was going 104.
Yep. I agree. Well, Ari, listen, it's been absolutely fantastic having you on. Thank you so much for joining us and we are definitely doing this again.
Thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it. It's good to have an actual attorney. I'm just reading through this like trying to understand it. So, I think everybody else is is going to, you know, feel good that that an actual lawyer is looking into this. Appreciate it. I'm I'm like Elaine Breaof. I'm trying, your honor. I'm trying.
Well, folks, I hope you all enjoyed it. I hope you all learned something. I mean, what a tragedy. What a sad tale. What a sad story. Four young girls dead because of one man. But his level of culpability, again, does it rise to murder? Isn't it the city's responsibility to make sure that the highway is fixed? Why is he being treated differently than others? Is it because he's wealthy? He's the son of a wealthy family? Why wasn't Caitlyn Jenner or Summer from the Nou restaurant? Why are they being treated differently? One is being charged with murder, the other is not. Again, there are so many questions. There are so many unanswered problems in this case, but at the end of the day, make no mistake about it. We have a young man who is being overcharged, in my humble opinion, and we have four victims that deserve justice. How do you square those two away? I mean, the civil lawsuits to compensate for their death, is that enough to give money to the family by the city and or bomb's family, is that enough? Should he be serving jail time? Let me know in the comments below what you guys think. Is it murder? Is it murder 2? Is it manslaughter? Is it something less? Uh, by the way, don't forget to like this video, comment below, subscribe to the channel, let me know in the comments below what you think. And I will see you all in the next video. Bye everybody.