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So, Jews have been like 0.2% of the population for how long? When we go like years, hundreds of years ago, they were still 2% of the population. Isn't it funny how their population never changes?
Yeah. I wonder what happened in the 1940s that killed 2/3 of all the European Jews. Like I I wonder, you know, the Jews still have not gotten back to the number that they were before the Holocaust, right? Like they still are lower than the number before that.
It was actually 6 million. Wow, you guys. This one's kind of a crazy one. This is from last night's live. It was an Armenian woman who I catch and she's just starts off asking questions and I knew something was there. I could tell, but I waited for the mask to slip and man did it slip. If you want to skip right to when her mask slips, go to around the 23 minute to 23 minute and 30 second mark, somewhere around there. But, you know, I recommend watching the whole thing. I know it's a little bit longer, but this was a good conversation. So, let's get right into it.
So enlighten me a little bit on um the whole Israel Iran conflict.
With Israel and Iran. Yeah. I mean my thing is.
Israel and Palestine. Just enlighten me.
Yeah, sure. Um like what specifically like why I support Israel or like the history or contemporary times?
Yeah. Why do you support Israel?
Yeah. So I mean I started off about like especially like five years ago reading both sides. I read a lot of anti-ionist stuff. Constantine Z, Elon Pap, uh I have stone and then I read Zionist books, you know, Herzog, Alan Dersawitz, Benny Morris, Ephraim Kar, etc., etc. And then I've read some neutral stuff as well. I studied Islam extensively, read the Quran twice, bunkered down and read about 20,000 hadith. And so once I got a grasp on the anthropology specifically of the area with Arabs and Muslims, I specifically determined to the best of my ability that the Zionist side made more sense.
Okay. I think it's against a fight against Islamist extremism. And I see the Palestinian movement as a national movement that was really politicized in 1964 that came from something called Operation Sig. Operation Sig was a USSR disinformation campaign to try to attack the West by first going through Israel. And so they started making up a lot of lies and pushing it through Yaser Arafat, Makmoud Abbas, who were KGB agents and they were trained on how to speak to the West. And then they are now funded by the IRGC. The Palestinians seem to favor terrorist organizations, whether it be the PA who funds the martyrs fund that they have, the pay for slave program. They're probably the most moderate Palestinians and even they fund terrorism. And then you have Hamas, PIJ, PRC, Army of Islam, PFP, DFLP, etc. Uh, that doesn't mean I think Israel is perfect, nor do I think any country in the world is perfect. But I do understand their struggle in fighting a group that clearly ignores international law while Israel is held to a higher standard against international law.
Okay. Okay.
Do you have a opinion on it?
One moment.
No problem.
Um, so you believe that Okay. So, okay. So, what I'm getting from this, well, I'm not super, you know, in tune with what goes on, but I do know the surface level. So, I'm I'm aware that many, you know, children, you know, often times people speak of, you know, children who died in God and, you know, the surface level. I'm aware of the surface level knowledge and everything.
Sure. So, is that like is that okay to you?
It depends like on the context. Of course, I don't think it's okay.
Depopulation. Okay. Well, no. Well, Israel's whole goal was to kind of depop like depopulate Palestine and to take over.
No. Well, no, not you're talking about originally, like when Israel first came out.
No. So, Israel was.
Well, now modern day.
Well, okay. So, well, I'll answer both. So historically, Israel was the only, well, when I say Israel, I just mean Jews, cuz Israel wasn't a modern state yet. But the Jews, the Zionists, if you will, they were the only ones that did accept partition Plan 181 that was put in by the United Nations. It was the Arabs that actually not only said no, they kidnapped little kids, just kind of similar to October 7th, not on the same scale. They would fight uh against the British, but mostly the Jews, slaughtering Jews. You go back to the Arab revolt of 36 to 39, they slaughtered about 510 Jews. uh you go back to 1929 and Hebrron, they went to an anti-ionist Jewish community, ones that were against Zionism and they slaughtered them as well. And you can go all the way back to 1517 with the Hebrron massacre and spot massacre. So every for 400 years, it was very clear that they were trying to fight against the Jews. But the Arabs in 1948, they were the ones that actually launched the war against Israel, a bunch of Holocaust survivors at the time and exdemies from the surrounding Arab nations. And somehow they lost. I don't really know how. They had 10 Arab factions, six nations, and the Jews somehow, even though they were outgunned, outmanned, they won. And so that actually expanded the borders, whereas if they just accepted the partition plan, they would have been living side by side. Um, the Jews even wanted the Arabs to stay. They didn't want them to be displaced out. In fact, 150,000 Arabs did stay and they ignored the Arab League that told them to leave so they can kill the Jews or push them out. They stayed and they were all given citizenship immediately. and another about 100,000 give or take 142,000 maybe uh they were actually came back and were also given citizenship by the Jewish uh Israeli government and then in 1967 during the 6- day war they pushed Jordan regain Jerusalem and all Judea and Samaria immediately passed the holy uh land protection act um and they immediately allow access for all Muslims, Christians, Jews into the holy sites, church of the holy sepeker, the aluxa mosque, the temple mount and the western wall and they immediately allow the Islamic walk in Jordan to hold control of the Temple Mount, which is the Jews holiest spot, but they allow Muslims to actually control it. And so I think it's easy for a lot of propaganda to spread that Jews just want to or Israel wants to depopulate, but it's not based in reality. As for kids dying, yes, in a densely populated warfare where you have a guerilla warfare unit like Hamas, yes, civilians do die. In fact, it's much more increased because they hide amongst the civilian population. But there's a difference between someone's goal being to just kill whoever, whether it be terrorist, child, woman, man, and collateral damage.
Okay. I have one question. I was recently um well, the whole update with Israel and passing the death penalty law. I don't know if you're if you saw it, but um I'm I'm not too in line. I just seen like a quick scroll or whatever. They passed the death penalty to kill like a Palestinian that what they that just exists like what's the what's the um what's behind that?
Yeah. So the the death penalty law that was just passed is for the military courts and it's for anyone who commits an act of terrorism with not just an act of terrorism but you also have to kill one or more people. So what it says is if you fall under that crime, you do an act of terrorism where you kill somebody or multiple people, then the default option, the judge can of course rule whatever he wants in special cases, but the default option is the death penalty within 90 days of conviction. It's not just killing Palestinians. It's literally for anyone who commits an act of terrorism that kills somebody or kills more than one person.
Okay. So, so, so the man who was celebrating the the death penalty, it was it was a person.
Ben Gavir.
Yeah. He was I guess he's a person in office, correct? He's like some.
He's part of the coalition. Yeah.
Yeah. What he said was death to Palestinians.
I don't remember him saying that.
In the when he was celebrating, you know, he was like popping the champagne bottle or whatever and he said death to Palestinians.
I don't think celebrating. Maybe it's AI. Who knows? AI is crazy.
Was he speaking English?
No, it was just it was translated and then I went I took it upon myself to translate the video myself and.
Look it up right now.
It's good find for you. Ben Gavir deaths to Palestinians. I mean, when I'm looking up like on X, I feel like if he said that, everyone would have posted about it. I can't find one. I do have the original video of him saying, "Yeah, here's him celebrating."
Yeah. Uh, I speak enough Hebrew to know he didn't even say the word Palestinian in it. So, it doesn't really make a lot of sense for him to have said death to Palestinians. Here's another video of him celebrating. So, what about the um the 350 children that are sitting in Israeli detention centers and the 100 Palestinian tenies that were that died in custody?
Yeah. So, uh real quick, some people are saying to me that he said execute terrorists in Hebrew, not death to Palestinians.
So.
Who. Oh. Oh, you're like you're like on a live. You're a streamer.
Yes, that's correct. Uh, so yeah, I just again I speak a little bit of Hebrew. I'm not I'm not Israeli. I'm not Jewish, but I've learned a little bit. So I know he didn't say Palestinian at all. He just said execute.
Terrorist. But anyways, what was your second question? I'm sorry.
But do you not Okay, so knowing what you know about the Israeli government and how those people view Palestinians, do you not think he was referring to Palestinians or Middle Eastern? Don't you think it's a little Well, Israelis are Middle Eastern, but don't you think it's a little Don't you think you're kind of being a little racist by him saying terrorists and you automatically just assume that means Palestinian? Doesn't Isn't that a little.
Well, for a very long time, we've we've been uh given this display that Middle Easterns are terrorists. We've been given this image that Arabs are ter.
Muslims is generally what people say, right?
Right. Muslims. And how much of the population of Palestine are Muslim? Majority. Correct.
Correct. When you say Palestine, you're talking about the Palestinian territories like area A and B and Gaza.
Yeah. They're almost exclusively Muslim because they persecute the Christians and kick them out.
Correct. Which I don't agree with. I'm an Orthodox Christian myself and I don't agree with that. But what I do know for a fact, like do you don't think that him celebrating and what he said was kind of targeted towards Arab.
Targeted towards terror. Again, the law, if you don't believe me, look it up. I promise you, I'm telling you the truth. The law is for people who commit acts of terrorism and kill somebody, an innocent person, whether it be one or more.
Do you not agree with giving someone like that the death penalty?
Oh, no. I 100% agree. I think if you are someone who took the life of another person, you deserve nothing less but the penalty.
Okay. So, what exactly is.
Whether you're white, black, you could be white, black, blue, red, purple, I don't care what you are.
So, what are you.
Right? So, why would you be against him celebrating this past going or this law going through?
I don't.
Because there are 350 children in an Israeli detention center that I'm sure have not killed someone. They're children.
Well, they would not at all get the death penalty if that's what you're thinking.
Correct. So, why? Okay. So, what could possibly be the reason for 350 Palestinian children to be in the Israeli detention center?
Sure. There was there was a there was a guy named uh there was a kid. He was 17. He was arrested when he was I think 14, maybe late 13. His name was Muhammad. His last name started with an H. I can't remember the name. The reason he went pretty viral was because during the very first Hamas um Israel prisoner hostage exchange where Hamas gave up some hostages.
One of the people that was released on the Israeli prison side was this kid who was 17, right? He would be counted as a child.
Um the reason he went viral is because he lied about his hands being broken in the Israeli prison system and then the next day they showed him leaving like in the bus and his hands he was using them to climb and sign stuff.
I am saying it should go unnoticed. I'm not saying just because they're children they should get away with acts of.
You're upset they're in prison.
Hm. You're upset that they're in prison. What? Where should they be?
No. No. It's not that I'm upset they're in prison. I When I hear children, I think of little children. You know.
There's no one under the age of 15 in the Israeli prison system. Just so you know. They're all over the age of 15.
So, how was he arrested?
15 and over. And I'm not saying no one's ever been arrested under the age of 15. There. It has happened very rarely because most of the time when somebody does a terrorist act, they're usually 15 to 18 if they're a child. When I say child, I mean minor, right? But it is it it has happened where younger people, even younger than 15 in the Palestinian territories, have done acts of terrorism. But it's pretty rare. But if you go to bedum, if you don't believe me, you go to bedelum, which is a very anti-Israel, they are Israeli, but they're very, very anti-Israel organization. But they have what's called a prison database and you can go look it up and you can see the ages of people in there. You can see how many people are in there, etc., etc. It's a whole database you can look at. But um yeah, there's no like when you say little kid, like I'm assuming you're talking like an 8-year-old or something. No, there's no children.
Yeah. None of them are in the Israeli prison system.
Okay. One last question because I've always been curious. Why are Israelis and Jewish people because majority of Israelis are Jewish? Why why have they been kicked out of so many countries?
How many countries do you think they've been kicked out of?
I don't know the exact number, but I know it's what is it like in the 2030s?
So, there's an anti-semitic trope that says 109 countries that uh that's way off. I'm so sorry.
Well, no, it's not true either way. It's just I thought that's what you were going with because there's a lot of It came from an anti-semitic. It was a far-right blog post on from Australia that said, by the way, it didn't actually even say 109 countries, but the website was deleted. It was a blog post and people just carried it on. Um, so a lot of the times they were kicked out of multiple areas that expanded into like one kick out would count as like 15, 20 countries, not entities, whatever you want to call it, because most of the time when they were kicked out, they kicked out other people too. It wasn't like they were targeting just the Jews, but they counted this in the list and these were always the worst of the worst people. Nazism, right, is on the list, like Nazis who kicked out obviously Jews and force them to uh march east. Uh, one of the times that they were kicked out was the black plague, for example. And so, the reason they weren't is because during the black plague, Jews were not as affected. And so, back then, the reason they weren't is because, as I'm sure you know, maybe I don't know, Jews would wash their hands a lot more, right, than especially Europeans. They were actually kind of dirty back then during this time. But the Jews would wash their hands because of religious requirements. They consistently wash their hands. At the time they didn't understand scientifically that's a good thing. When there's a plague going on, washing and being clean is a good thing. So what they did was they said, "Oh, the Jews must have used witchcraft to create this plague for us because look, they're not being affected as much." And so to answer your question, just about every time, and I've looked into it extensively, but to not bore you with each example, every time has been times where Jews were scapegoed because they were always been a tiny tiny percentage. Another time for example was in Europe where the Christians and Muslims they were not allowed to um they were not allowed to give uh loans to each other with interest because it was against the religious requirements. So they would force the Jews to do this position. They would say hey we're going to force you because you have we have to do interest to have an economy but we're not allowed to religiously. So we're going to use you as a loophole. So when they would build up such a high debt, instead of paying the Jews back their own money, they would just kick them out because they're like, "Well, we have more than you, so we'll kick you out." This is where the anti-semitic trope of the money hungry Jew comes from, which is kind of [ __ ] up if you think about it. It's just them literally asking for their own money back. But instead, they would kick them out. So, if you look at this list, the very first like 5 to 10 on the list is ancient Israel itself. They count people going into ancient Israel, the kingdom of Israel, and kicking them out of their own state or sorry, kingdom. So I'd have to ask you like do you know of an example when Jews were kicked out where you thought like it's 100% definitely their fault?
Um no I I I don't think that Okay. So when Jews would settle in different countries which like when they were kicked out of one they would go to another you know it was like was like a cycle. What they did was they wouldn't build they wouldn't kind of build off of wealth. They would just it's like they stole it. They stole what they could. Can you give me an example?
So, I'm Armenian.
I don't I'm Armenian. And.
Many years ago, many centuries ago, a lot of Israelis tried to settle in Armenia.
Jews, you mean?
Jews? Oh, yeah. Sorry. Jews tried to settle in Armenia. And it didn't it didn't go well with the Armenian well western Armenians because they knew that they would try to kind of like eat off of their plates and because again this is where the stereotype comes in where Jews are greedy and you know you guys are like you know super money hungry whatever power hungry.
I'm not Jewish but go on.
No I know but um that's kind of where the stereotype came from.
Yeah but can you give me an example when Jews were just stealing from other people.
In Armenia all the time?
Yeah. Can you be more like what what did they do? They would just like settle in one place and then they they back then it was it wasn't just like you could just come and settle on someone else's land. It it didn't work like that. Like you would have to fight for that land that.
Well actually I mean that happened all the time with refugees but that's not stealing right. That's that's that especially back wealth like Armenia was already under genocide and it was already a country that was.
You're talking about during the Ottomans.
And way back before as well. It it was over like like a period of time. And that brings me to my next point of what.
Wait you haven't you have an answer though. When did what did they steal? You you just talked about settling on land but you said stealing wealth. Like they went in and stole money, right? How did they do that?
They would literally try to like make Armenians like run out of business and like back then it was like fast.
Can you be more specific?
I listen I wasn't I wasn't alive at the time. Ask someone that was alive during the time.
Well, it doesn't sound like anyone was alive at that time. That that's that's hund you're talking about hundreds of years ago. But I assume you you read this history. It sounds like you're just saying this happened.
It sound It sound like it was on Google or on TikTok and it was like this false spread propaganda. No, it was in the book. And.
So you're saying that the Jews just just so make sure I understand. You're saying the Jews went into Armenia and they they even though they were a tiny tiny tiny percentage of people.
It was not a tiny tiny percentage of people.
The Jews have always been a tiny percentage of people. They've always been about Yeah. The Jews have especially if you're talking about the Ottoman time, Jews made up about 02% of the world. like tiny. And so you're saying they Okay, so you're saying they went in and they literally like robbed people and stole their wealth.
They didn't rob people, but they they they tried to move Armenians that are in Armenia off of their own land so they could have somewhere to settle. It doesn't work like that. It it does not work. You cannot kick people out of their own country just because you need a place to stay because you are under this anti-semitic like thing. It is it doesn't.
I I don't think that happened in I' I've studied the history of Armenia and Jews a lot. I I don't think that happened at all. Um, at least the way you're describing it. Can you be again, can you be more specific so I can look into this? Because if you're just saying, you know, did Jews are you saying kicked Armenians out of Armenia? Is that what you're saying?
No, they they tried. They never actually kicked Armenians out because Armenians would never just give up their land even though it happened like 5 years ago with this new prime minister.
It literally happened. Trust me, it's a whole thing that I cannot even stand thinking about.
Can Can you give me the yearish? Like what century are we talking about here? It was before the Ottoman Empire.
Before the Ottoman Empire. I'm going to look into this, see what you're talking about.
And that brings me to my next point of how much genocide Israel has ever supported and funded. Can can that can do do you have any um.
Yeah, I can I can look into that but yeah just like quick I mean I can look more into if you give me something more specific to look into it but it says literally no there's no credible evidence historical evidence that Jews tried to expel Armenians from their land before or during the Ottoman Empire Armenians lived in the Armenian highlands of course Jews lived primarily in the land of Israel Judea hundreds of miles to the south um they're ruled under the obviously the empire Roman Empire Byzantine Empire Cassinian Empire. Jews were dispersed after the Roman destruction of the second temple. Of course, yeah, it says literally at no point were Jews even any type of power over Armenia or in a position to kick Armenians out. So, if you can just give me something more specific, I can look into, but based off of a just a quick little like look, it doesn't sound like that's true at all.
Okay. All right. My I have one question and I know I keep saying the last question but I genu so many questions because I I don't have conversation like this often.
Um, what do you think about all the genocides that Israel has ever supported and funded?
Like what?
Like the Armenian genocide.
When was the Armenian genocide?
1915.
When did Israel exist?
I have no idea.
1948. So, how could Israel have supported the Armenian genocide?
Okay, Jews. Jews, whatever. Jews.
How did Jews support the Oh, hold on. How did Jews support the Armenian genocide? The young Turks and the Turkish government who were very anti-Jewish. Very, very anti-Jewish. You're saying they were secretly working with the Jews to genocide the Armenians? What are you talking about?
Wait. In 2000.
Israel is one of the only countries today that recognizes the Armenian genocide.
But they funded Turkey.
They literally didn't. No, none of this is true. Phoned Azarbaan to they they literally gave Azarbar.
Okay. So you're talking about Azarbaian, not not the Turks. Okay. So that's actually a false very false information that gets spread around. So the Jews used to not fund but weaponize Azarbaijan before they were doing what they're doing in contemporary times to Armenia. They no longer are the primary uh suppliers of weaponry to Azerbaian. There is a soft power that Israel and Azaraijan have together because if you just kind of look at the map, Armenia has decided to side more with Iran and Azarbaian is antiRGC. So you guys have actually supported a terrorist organization that has slaughtered 30 to 50,000 people in just 2 days of their own people. Now that's your calling. If you want to do that, that's fine. But to sit here and say that Israel is siding more with Azarbaijan than Armenia, of course, why wouldn't they? Azarbaian has a longer land border in Iran. So it's a strategically more advantageous but also what do you want? Do you want Israel to side more with Armenia even though you guys have cozied up to the IRGC?
Why would you want that?
No. But then it comes to a point when a country is being is being attacked from the from Turkey and Azerbaian.
Which Israel doesn't support either. They do not weaponize Azarbaian or Turkey. So what do you want Israel to do?
Okay. The war in what was it 2022.
Right? Israel stopped being the primary uh uh weaponizer of Azarbaian by 2021. It was before the uh uh before what you're talking about before the war.
Okay.
So, that's what I'm saying. What What do you want Israel to do? You want them to go in and fight your war for you?
No, but they didn't even they didn't have to like I don't understand. They never they're not obligated to fight.
It was before the war. What do you want them to? So you're mad at them that they didn't read the future?
No. No. It was during the genocide that they was not. It was not.
You just look it up. Israel stopped being the primary weaponized weapon.
Google weapon is owned by a dirty ass Jew. Safari is owned by a dirty ass. Anywhere. Anywhere you look. There it is. What? My anti.
So, just so you know, India India, an Indian actually is the CEO of Google, not a Jew. So, you're just wrong. Um.
Whatever you look up on the media is what a Jewish person allows you to look up on the media, which is why you cannot even.
So like Al Jazer Alazer is owned by the Jews.
H.
Al Jazzer is owned by the Jews.
Al Jazzer listen anything in the.
You said anything. So I'm asking you Al Jazzer is owned by the Jews.
What are you asking me right now?
You said.
I'm telling you one thing. I'm I'm telling you about the media and you're telling me.
Right. Al Jazzer is a media organization that's funded by Qatar. Are you saying that they're international organization? They're pretty popular. I'm surprised you don't know them, but I'm asking you, um, are they owned by the Jews? Because Alazer has a whole article on the Armenian supply of weapons that will back up everything I said. Are you saying that those are owned by the Jews? Also, do you hate all Jews? I'm confused. Like, if even if a Jew did own a media company, does that automatically make them bad?
Every Jew. So earlier when you were like, "I don't care if you're black, white, blue." That was just for show.
What do you mean for show? No. I gen don't care if you're white, black. I don't care what you are.
You just care if they're Jewish.
No. No. I care. Listen, if you're a person and and you commit a crime, I believe there should be consequences.
Right? But if you're a Jew, you're dirty regardless.
No. If you do something dirty, that automatically makes you dirty.
You just said every Jew. You literally just I have it recorded. Also, do you hate all Jews? I'm confused.
Every Jew.
We're on live right now.
I I know. And and I'm going to tell you again, every Jew in my eyes is just disgusting. I I cannot look at a Jew and not be disgusted.
And you think that's like normal in Ed?
Normal or not?
No. No. Seriously, you think that's like you think that's a normal way to think?
Have you ever read the Talmud? How do you say the Talmud?
Talmud. I read it more than you significantly. I've read the Quran. I've read the Christian Bible. I've read the Torah, the Tanakh. I've read the Talmud. You've never read the Talmud. I guarantee you. Read certain little chips of the Talmud you found on the internet and then they misquote it or miscontext it completely. But either way, even if you were going with the Talmud, it's a book of rabbit thousands of years old rabbitical arguments. It's not even like a religious I mean it's religious but it's not like the Torah where it's divine by God.
Okay. So you don't think you don't think Jews have anything to do with Satan?
Satan. Satan means adversary. The Shayan. It's the it's the adversary. Yes. Of course, it comes from the Torah. It comes from what Christians would call the Old Testament. I don't think you know your own Bible. I think I know more about your own Bible than you.
Oh. Oh, I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do.
Confident I do.
I'm Listen, I'm right there with you. I know.
So then why are you invoking Satan if you don't even know who that is?
I Okay. No. To me, when when I think of Satan, I think of the devil.
I know. That's I'm aware.
Whether it's right, wrong, or listen, I'm not here to talk about the Bible. I I read my Bible as much as I can and I do the research.
Not very much because if it tells you where Satan comes from, but you think it's just from the Jews. If you read your Bible, then you.
I never said I never said the devil.
You said you don't think that the Jews.
Ties. So there's ties.
Okay. I mean, you can just go back into live and watch it. You did say that. But okay, fine. You think there's ties? What ties does Satan have with the Jews? No, listen. When I when I read like part and listen, I'll be honest with you. I did not read the whole Talmud. I did not even go as far.
You didn't even You didn't read any of it.
I No, I did not go into very deep.
Can you tell me which Talmud you read? Was the Babylonian and the Jerusalem?
What's What is.
Okay. Can you tell me the difference between the Mishna and the Gomorrah?
I don't know that.
That's what I thought. You think you're educated enough to actually have an argument about the tomud?
No, no. I'm just telling you that I read very like it it just.
Look I'm trying I I your your hate which I can feel through the screen comes from.
I'm so glad you do. I'm so glad you do.
Okay. Anyways.
I'm so happy you do.
Okay. It comes from self-admittedly ignorance. Something you admit that you don't know anything about. And I think I've made it very clear that I know significantly more than you about it, which is fine. But why would you base your hatred of an entire people, right? I I I've been into the Palestinian territories, area A. I've been to Ramala. I've been into the restricted zone of the Gaza envelope. I've been all over. And even I would not just look at just a random Palestinian be like, "Oh, they're all dirty. I [ __ ] hate them." And so I I feel like your your hate is based off of ignorance. Now, if you were somebody who studied into this and you were wellversed, even half as well versed as I was, I still would think it's wrong, but at least it's backed off of something you've studied. But you've admitted that you haven't read anything including your own Bible.
I read my Bible. I listen Jesus Christ is king. But.
Jesus Christ is king. Okay. So can you tell me what did Jesus say when Peter Simon told him I have two swords?
What are you going to tell me that that the chosen people and.
No, I I was going to say that. I'm just wondering how much you know about Jesus. How about Paul? Did you read Did you read Paul?
Not Not all of it. No.
Have you read the book of Romans?
I have not read the I have not read the entire Bible.
Do you know who Paul is?
I I do know who Paul is.
Who's Paul?
Was he like one of the 12 Noiples?
No. He didn't even meet Jesus. He actually on the road to Damascus actually was divinely inspired by Jesus and he was an acquaintance of some of his apostles and he wrote the book of Romans amongst other things too. But I was going to bring up the book of Romans. But you don't even know who Paul is and you're a Christian. Paul is one of the most important figures in your Bible, which by the way is about that big, right? If you ignore the Old Testament, it's about that big. And you're telling me you don't know it? H I was going to ask you, what does Paul say about the Jews and how they relate to the Gospels? And what does it say about the patriarchs? And what does it say about the branches? And what does it say about salvation, where it comes from, which Jesus says that to the Samaritans, right? Did you know what Jesus says about the Jews to the Samaritans?
Well, what what did he say about.
That salvation comes from the Jews.
Have you read any of the New Testament? Any of it?
I've.
What are the four gospels?
I've I've only read the Old Testament.
What are the four gospels?
What are they? I I don't I don't.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
Okay.
And you're a Christian?
I am Christian. I'm Orthodox Christian.
And you don't know the four Gospels. Okay. Um, I don't know what to tell you. I I really don't. Um, I think you should read your Bible. Just so you know, Paul says in the book of Romans that the Jews are the enemies of the gospels for your sake. And by your sake, he's speaking to the Greeks and the Gentiles. And he specifically says that their disassociation from it and not accepting Jesus was for your sake. Because if they did, it would have never spread to you. Including Armenia, by the way, which is one of the oldest churches. You're from the people that comes goes back to the very earliest Christians and you couldn't even take the time to learn what the four gospels were. You know Jesus was a Jew, right? I just I just I don't know how much you do or don't know. I don't know where every single day like whenever I make a comment about Jewish people, it's always, "Oh, did you know Jesus was a Jew?"
Didn't mo correct me if I'm wrong.
It probably will be. Modern Judaism start like no I'm saying modern Judaism didn't start until like Jesus was crucified.
So no what it was was Jesus was most.
And didn't the Jews killed Jesus.
So again no so first off if you actually.
Sure if you took.
Sure if you took the well it was the Romans literally but if you want to know who actually allowed it to happen if you took the time to read your Bible if you took even half a second to read it there's a guy named Pontius Pilot. Do you know who that is?
No. Who's Pontius Pilate?
Jesus Christ. Okay. Anyways, when he says to Jesus, I have the power to save you. So, please tell me what I need to do. This was the Romans who gave the order to crucify Jesus. Not the Jews, the Romans. Okay? Because you weren't allowed to crucify unless it was through the Roman authority. The Romans, by the way, crucified many people. It wasn't like Jesus only. Okay? Anyways, do you know what Jesus says to him? And he says, "Only I have the power to take my own life and rise it back up, for that is given to me by my father." Right? So if you want to know who allowed for it religiously, it would be Jesus. If you want to know historically, it'd be the Romans. Either way, not the Jews. Now, as for the Jews, there were people called the Sadducees and then there was the Pharisees and others. Okay? But right now, I want to focus on the Sadducees and the Pharisees because a lot of people mistakenly, a lot of Christians even say it was the Pharisees that crucified him. But that's actually not true. The Pharisees were again some of the teachings of Jesus, but it was actually the Sadducees that worked with the Romans to crucify him. The Sadducees were attached to the temple. So with the destruction of the temple, which was like 100 years after Jesus, the Sadducees went away forever. So when you say modern Judaism, no, it was just the Pharisees who continued it on and had rabbitical Judaism happen so that way they can practice in the diaspora. But it is stem from the Judaism that Jesus would have practiced and even before. Okay. So So no, you're actually wrong. But that being said, Jesus still very much was a Jew. He still would have done a lot of stuff. Yes, because the temple existed, he would have done stuff that Jews cannot do today because there is no temple. But there's 613 mitzvot. About a third of them that Jews follow can happen without the temple. About 2/3 of them, yes, you need a temple. Jesus would have done those just as much. He would have observed Pesak, which is today, by the way. Do you know what Pesak Passover? Okay, glad you know that at least. So, yeah. So, they observed that. And so Jesus would have done the exact same thing. And so I find it interesting. You think every Jew is a dirty whatever you want to call it.
But your own Lord, right? And your own Lord and Savior is a Jew. And he literally said salvation comes from the Jews. He would be upset with you for saying something like that. Actually.
No, he wouldn't be because the the.
Modern Jews listen. I'm okay. Where I live, there's a big population of Jewish people and modern Jews.
New York. Yes. How? See, it's like gives it away, you know. But.
Oh, no. I just have your IP address cuz I'm the MSAD. That was a joke.
So, how did you actually know?
Because that's where 90% of the Jews are in America. It was a joke.
Okay. Well, point proven. So, Jews have been like 2% of the population for how long?
Well, not forever. I mean, back in the day, like way back thousands of years ago. I just remembered like you mentioned there they've been like 2% of the population like 2.2% of the population but then when we go like years hundreds of years ago they were still 2% of the population. Isn't it funny how their population never changes?
Yeah. I wonder what happened in the 1940s that killed 2/3 of all the European Jews. Like I I wonder you know the Jews still have not gotten back to the number that they were before the Holocaust, right? Like they still are lower than the number before that. That was actually 6 million is what you're telling.
Of course it was. Oh, you want to debate the Holocaust now? Like really? You didn't even read your own Bible and you want to debate the Holocaust? Do you really think that's going to go well for you? Jesus Christ.
Holocaust. It it it.
No. Do I believe it happened?
The most documented where even the Nazis themselves admitted it was 6 million. Some actually said they thought it was more. Literally, they had documents on it. the wanny conference of 1942 where they had a documentation of every Jew of every single country. You're going to say that what how many was it then if it wasn't 6 million?
No. I'm going to show you something.
Sure. I'm sure it's going to be very intelligent.
There is a like a memorial and there's a memorial and over the years the number engraved on the memorial has changed. It was changed. I don't know how but.
Yeah. So, I know what you're talking about. It was the Russians. Yes, I do. And I'll tell you what the answer is. So, it was Ashwitz Burkenau that said it was 3 million and then they changed it to 1.1 million. The reason for that is because the Russians put that up there because they were trying to demonize and so they put a quick number what they believed to be correct at the time. Now, if the Holocaust was fake and they wanted to increase that number, they would have just kept it. But because they were going for honesty, they're like, "Hey, it actually wasn't 3 million." On top of that, the commander of the Nazis who was at, his name was Hans, I can't remember his name, but you can look him up. He was a commander at Burkinau. He testified that he believes at least 2 to 2.5 million Jews were killed at Ashwitz. He was incorrect, but he they were killing them so fast that he truly believed that that was the number. So, when you said the memorial was changed, let me ask you something. If it was fake in in in favor of the Jews, why would they lower the number? Like why would they why wouldn't they either keep the number or increase the number if they were going to change it? Why would they lower it?
I'm I'm Okay. I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
We're definitely talking about the same thing. This is the only thing that was changed. I promise you we're talking about the same thing.
Oh.
Also, just so you know, have you ever heard of Yadvashm?
No.
Okay. Yadvashm is a Holocaust memorial where they actually have the documents of every single person that was killed. And you can go verify this.
The big um things that like move around.
There's a document on every single person, right? So, I guess you can say they're just all made up. Of course, those documents are very much authentic to the time. So, they would have had to make them all up back in, you know, the 1940s or 50s and then wait until today to produce them, but like they made them up back then. But, nonetheless, what exactly makes you think it's fake? Like, what evidence do you have beyond just you don't like the Jews?
Their population just always remains the same.
Right? That proves the Holocaust even more. Actually, you understand that that debunks more.
Wouldn't their population decrease after the Holocaust? It did. That's the point. It went down by 6 million. I know. That's crazy, right? How did that happen? It literally went Actually, it was a little more than 6 million, but whatever. We say 6 million colloquially. I don't understand. Are you like bad at math? I don't get it. It went down. Literally, it went down and it's almost not quite there yet, but it's almost finally back at what it was before the Holocaust. There's about 16 million Jews in the world. There was just over 16 million during the Holocaust. Let me ask you something. Why did the population in every census go down about 6 million after the Holocaust? What happened to all of them? Did they all just disappear? Did they magically like go to Mars? What happened?
I was I was going to say they die. They were murdered. But what is your what is your theory?
No, listen. I.
Crazy that this ladies who her whole family went through a genocide by the hands of the Muslim Turks is denying another genocide. That's insane. No, I.
I I just if See, if you were to listen to anything I say, I literally said, "I believe it happened. I just don't believe it was 6 million."
You understand Holocaust denial doesn't mean you literally deny any deaths. It means you deny the
I believe it happened.
Right. So, you're you're still denying it though, right? It's like me saying, "How many Armenians died in the genocide?"
Like 2 million.
Okay. It would be like me saying, "Oh, no, no. I believe you guys died, but I think it was only 100,000." That's still denial, right?
Yeah.
Right. So, do you understand why your point's stupid? But the Armenian population actually like decreased
just like the Jewish population decreased. Literally, you could just look it up. The Jewish population decreased. Just like the Armenian population decreased, the Jewish population also decreased. What exactly is your point right now?
It was not 6 million.
Okay, great. What was it?
Like 200,000.
Only 200,000. Okay. Where are you getting that from?
I I just feel like it was 200,000.
You weren't a lie, so how can you just feel it?
I just I believe it was 200,000.
Okay. Based off of what?
I don't know. I saw a woman say it and then I went along with it.
And you think that's smart? You know, the Turks today say that they didn't genocide you guys. So, should we just believe them since they said it?
Go ahead.
No, of course I wouldn't cuz I'm not evil. But I'm just saying, is that logic stand? Do you believe that the Armenians weren't genocided?
No, I believe it happened because
you've heard people say it didn't happen though, right?
Oh. Oh, I have. No, I've had.
So, why don't you believe them?
Because Because I have family who went through that.
That doesn't mean 2 million were genocided, though. Could have just been 100,000.
Okay.
So, why don't you believe the people that said we didn't genocide the Armenians? How come you don't believe them?
Because those are my people. Why would I ever turn my back on my people?
So, even if your people, I I don't care if it was six. It should have been 12 million. Like honestly, at that point, make it 20 million.
Mhm.
Okay.
In my eyes, no Jew is innocent. The from the day a Jewish person is born, they are taught to hate every other religion, every other ethnicity, every other race besides their own kind. So, it's like when you try to say, "Oh, what about the Jewish children?"
Well, I'm not Jewish. The Jewish people don't hate me. So, what do you mean?
You just said they're taught to hate everyone that's not Jewish. My wife is Jewish. She doesn't.
No, but they are. So then why would why did my wife marry me? What was the reason for that?
Is is she Jewish?
Yeah, she's Jewish. So why would she marry me a non-Jew?
You just said they're taught to hate everyone.
No. No, they are. No.
So then why does she not hate me?
Backbone. And unless they're not
It's kind of ironic because everything you're accusing the Jews, you're actually doing right now and you're admitting to doing it. You're literally admitting. And so I I find it interesting that you're saying the Jews do this. First off, why do you even if you thought that was true, why do you find it problematic because you're doing the same thing right now? Because if you found it problematic, then do you find yourself problematic? And second, even if you even if you you did have proof that they did this, again, I'd like you to answer why why would she marry me? I'm very much not Jewish. She knows I'm not Jewish. She doesn't hate me. Why would she do that?
I'm talking about like the
You said every Jew from this you No, you said every Jew from the day they were born. Don't Don't backtrack now. You said every single one.
Like every like traditional Israeli Jew.
No, that's not what you said. No, that's not what you said. Don't backtrack.
You said every traditional
No, that's not what you said. Again, you'll see this all on YouTube. You can go and look at it, right? You said every Jew from the day they were born. Now you're trying to change it to traditional Isra. No, no, no. You said every Jew.
Every Jew. Real Jew. Like a real Jew.
Great. So I answer. Okay. She's very much a real Jew. I promise you she's 100% Jewish. Both her parents were born in Israel. Why does she not hate me?
I don't know.
You just said every
I don't know. I mean, maybe she has like a soft spot for you. I don't know.
Have you ever read No, that's not what you said. Have you ever read the Quran?
No, but I've read some um scriptures and
the Quran specifically the Quran.
Not scriptures. Um verses, whatever they call it.
So, you've read more So, you've read more of the Quran than the New Testament.
No.
Yes. You said you have not read the New Testament at all. And you just said you've read some of the Quran.
I never like sat there and like I I don't have a Quran. I don't own one.
I didn't ask if you did. You have not read any of the New Testament and you've read parts of the Quran.
When When your wife talks, do you cut her off?
My wife? No. I love my wife.
Okay.
I don't love you. You I don't owe you anything.
Do you think I should treat you like my wife? Is that what you're implying?
It's the simple fact that I'm a woman. I'm talking about woman. Like don't Why would you cut off a woman?
Because you're not answering the question. It's not I don't have a hate for you, but we're not you're not answering my question. You said earlier, and again, you can rewind and watch the whole thing. You said, "I have not read any of the New Testament. You've only read parts of the Old Testament."
And you admitted that you have read some of the Quran, more or less, not the whole thing.
So therefore, you have read more of the Quran than you have the New Testament, which is 0%.
Okay.
Okay. So, I don't know why you're disagreeing. That's correct. No, my point is No, my
Can you say Muhammad's a false prophet?
Can you say Muhammad is a false prophet? I don't believe in him. So, yeah.
Yeah. Can you say Muhammad is a false prophet?
I don't believe in Muhammad.
Can you say the words Muhammad is a false prophet?
Muhammad is a false prophet.
Okay, great. I just don't know why that was so hard for you to say.
Like, what the [ __ ]
Okay, go ahead. What were you going to say?
Because I think you're a Muslim. I I do. I think you're Muslim because you don't know anything about Christianity. In fact, you know less about Christianity than people who don't even go to church. You didn't know what the four gospels were. You don't know who Paul really is. It's I just find that I find that very weird. Like I don't know a Christian in the world that doesn't at least know what the gospels are at minimum.
What do you want me to do? Kill myself because I don't know the four gospels.
I Wow, that was quite the stretch.
Like what do you want to do? I I love Christ. I pray to Christ. I light a candle every time I go to church. What do you want?
But you go to church and they haven't taught you the four gospels.
No. Well, no. They they so I go towards church. They do um
what's it called?
Like chants. I think that's what they call it.
Are I I don't know what you're saying.
Point is I'm not a Muslim and I would never be not that I don't have anything against Muslims. I just I would never be a Muslim myself.
Well, they have something against you. I promise.
I Oh, I'm sure.
Right. But it's the Jews that are the problem. I got you.
OH, NO. NO. I don't think Muslims are like the best people in the world.
Right. But you don't think they're all dirty?
No.
Right.
So the people that literally say, "Do not take Christians as allies, for if you do, you're one of them." Those aren't the dirty or problematic people,
but it's the Jews that are the problematic people.
Yes.
Gotcha. Okay. Even though you can't prove any of that and you're self admittedly saying that you heard a woman say it so you believe specifically with the Holocaust because you heard someone say it.
Yeah. I don't know. It was like some politician and I believed her. I don't know.
Don't even know her name. I bet. Yeah.
Anna um Anna
Anna Kasparian.
Kaspar. Yeah. Whatever.
She's not a politician. She is. She works for something called the Young Turks.
Do you know the people that genocided your people? She actually works for them.
Yeah. And you find that okay? Would you work for the Young Turks?
No.
Okay. So, you're listening to someone who, by the way, she's she's not a politician. You just said she's a politician. She's not a politician.
She's like a news.
She's literally someone who works for the Young Turks. That's it. She's just someone who works for the Young Turks. Um, yeah, she is Armenian and she works for somebody who genocided her people. And you think Anaka Kasparian is a smart individual,
even though she gets debunked consistently and just crashes out every 5 seconds.
I don't know.
Also, by the way, as much as I don't like Anakasparian, she's actually never said that. She actually does acknowledge the Holocaust. She has never said that only 200,000 Jews have died. She's not a fan of the Jews and she's consistently critical of Israel. But I'll give her one thing. She's never once said that it was only 200,000. So, you actually lied about that.
She said she said something about the Jewish people and I just
Sure. But again, you said that's where you got your Holocaust denial from. She hasn't even done that.
I did it. It was on the show. Like the young Turks, I
promise you, she her or Chank have never said only 200,000 Jews died in the uh in the Holocaust. Again, I don't like them. So, you got me defending people I don't like, but they have never said that. You know, Chank Weaguer or Uger, however you say his last name, you ever heard of him?
Yeah. Even he has never said that. So, you're you're actively lying right now about people I don't even like. I would be the last people I would normally defend. And even even that I have to defend. They never ever have said that.
Okay.
You just don't want it to be 6 million because you have a hatred for the Jews. You can't back it up. You have no idea why.
I don't want it to be 6 million. I want it to be 6 million.
So then why isn't it So then why isn't it? So then why isn't it? Give me something of why you think it was only 200,000.
Make it 12 million.
Great. That doesn't answer my question. Give me something. Something that says why it was only 200,000. Anything.
Okay. We're We're going to ask Siri.
Wow. Now we're going to AI. Jesus. We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.
It's literally owned by a [ __ ] Jew. It's going to tell me what a Jewish person wants.
Also, what historians would say, also documentation by the Nazis would say. Also, the Nazis themselves said it. But no, everyone's lying according to this Armenian woman. Everyone's lying. Everyone, including the people that killed the Jews, they also are secretly MSAD. Just so you guys know, they're all mad. Everyone's mad. Did you guys know Jesus was actually in the msad, too? Did you guys know that?
It's pretty crazy, huh?
Jesus was a massage.
Yeah.
Tank Weaguer's MSAD. Anakas Sparian's massage. Actually, this girl right here, she's also the MSAD.
God forbid.
You don't even know what the MSAD is.
Isn't it like some uh
No. Whatever you're about to say, it's just No. I just I can just already tell you're going to get
like some agents. Isn't it like a a like agents that
Yep. Nailed it. You nailed Is it not?
Yeah. No, you nailed it.
No, seriously. What is a massage?
You just It's just if if you know, you know, kind of thing. Oh,
okay. Listen, I don't know. I just All I know.
Just be honest. Do you think in the topics we have talked about up to this point, who do you think is more educated on the situations that we've
No, no, you are 100%. You are 100% more educated. Do you find it, now that you've admitted that, do you find it interesting that we're on opposite sides? Like the guy that's more educated by far has this side of information and you disagreeing with I assume all of it or at least most of it. Do you find it interesting that your side that has this extreme hatred for the Jewish people in Israel is generally the more uneducated side?
Sure.
Have you ever have you ever thought about that? Like why would the uneducated
you sleep at night? If it helps you sleep at night,
but you admitted it. You said I was more educated in this.
No, no, I did. And I and I commend you to that. Honestly, you know more about the Bible than I do.
So, what do you mean if it helps me sleep at night? It's something you literally admitted to. It's not like I'm making things up right now.
No, I know what you're saying, but I'm saying if that's what make like if that's what helps you sleep at night, by all means.
So, what do you think about that? What do you think about how the side that has these views is the uneducated side? Do you think that's coincidental?
I think Jews are still disgusting and filthy and greedy. And
I I got all that. I got that.
My point remains.
I I got that. But that's not answering my question. My question is is that the person that thinks this, do you find it coincidental that it has to be from such an uneducated side versus the educated side? Cuz if I educated myself and I found your conclusions, I would admit it. I'd admit to it. I have no problem admitting to something. I'm not I'm not an emotional person. I wouldn't be like, "Well, I don't want to be mean to the Jews or the Muslims or the Arabs or the Armenians or whatever. If if what you were saying was true and through my education and and by the way, I read again extremely anti-Semitic books, anti-Zionist books. I've read Mine Comp. I've read Constantine Zurik. I've read Elon Pap. I've read all of them." Right? They're
You believe Israel does something wrong? Of course, Israel does stuff wrong. What? Everyone does something wrong. Do you think Armenia doesn't do anything wrong?
Oh, no. We
of course every country in the world does something wrong. But again, this is strong. No. What has Armenia done that was wrong?
Cozy up to the IRGC.
Pardon?
Cozy up to the IRGC.
They did that.
What? When was this?
Still to this day. And by the way, I don't even blame them because for them it's a a matter of getting supplies and oil and whatever that they need for whatever they find their country to be beneficial for them. They're a sovereign country. They can do whatever they want.
The RM the R.
Have you ever been to the Armenian quarter in Jerusalem? Did you know there's an entire quarter for the Armenian people?
I do. I I mean why don't those dirty Jews why don't they just destroy it if they hate Armenians so much? Why why keep it? Why protect it?
Probably because it's it's a memorial.
It's not a
Is it not a memorial? Is it not?
Jesus Christ. No.
No. The Armenian Quarter is the Armenian shops and restaurants and mostly shops and markets.
There's an Armenian quarter in Turkey. What? What? What? What do you mean?
Is there?
Yeah. No, there's an Armenian neighborhood. I'm talking about a historical site. But regardless, I don't care cuz you don't think I mean, do you think all Turkish people are disgusting and evil and all like from birth? Okay. So, then the point doesn't then the point doesn't matter. You think that about the Jews. So, even if you were right about Turkey, which you're not, but even if you were right, it doesn't matter cuz you don't think that about the Turks. So, I'm saying, why doesn't the Jews, not only do they protect it, which by the way, just so you know, I've been to the Armenian quarter just a year ago, and Muslims are actually starting to open up shops in both the Christian quarter and the Armenian quarter, and they're starting to encroach, not the Jews, the Muslims, and they're starting to encroach and take over those shops. But I'm sure you don't care about that because, you know, Muslims are good enough. Jews are dirty. I'm simply asking, why don't the Jews just destroy it if they're so evil? They're so against Armenians
Israel because the Jews never targeted Armenians directly. What they did was make it easier for Azarbajan to attack us and
which they didn't
which they did. They didn't supply them.
Not during the war.
Yeah, it wasn't. Again, you just look this up. But I I think with your attitude, it's starting to make increasingly more sense why they should back Azerbaian instead of Armenia. If anyone thinks even half of what you think, why would they back somebody like you?
Why? Like really, why would they?
No, actually there a lot of Armenians are not. They actually support Israel. A lot of Armenians support Israel.
Okay, well that's good. I'm just saying if they think like you, why would they?
I personally don't. That's just my personal
right based off of you understand you have provided no evidence whatsoever this entire like I've been asking deepening like I've been increasingly asking you and you've provided admittedly nothing. And then when you provided a name for the first time, you got that wrong. You said Anakasparian who she's never actually even said what you said she said. So it's like the one time you provided kind of evidence you got it wrong. So it's I assume you're probably right. I assume that Armenians probably Armenians are actually pretty smart people.
No. Yeah. Armenian
excluding excluding present company but for the most part.
Yeah.
Right. And so I assume they are pro Israel because again the educated side would be that way. It's the uneducated side that doesn't know anything that would be the opposite.
Anything else?
Mashallah. Have a good day.
I just assume you're Muslim. So I thought it to give you back to your own your own people, you know, something you can understand.
No, never.
Okay. Alhamdulillah. What?
What does that mean?
Uh, it's Arabic for have a good day.
You You too. Yeah.