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Tell them that. Oh, there we go. There we go. All right. All right, everyone. Welcome. We uh we're going to have a little bit of fun here for our Q&A. Let's see. Uh so, I will say up front that I appreciate all the questions, which again are more than abundant, so we probably won't get to all of them, but we're going to do our best.
Also, as is typical, uh, some of the questions, the great thing about just the Christian life is that all of us don't agree on everything perfectly. Okay. So if, if we say something different, we're not mad at each other. We love each other, and it's just, we're going to show grace. Okay.
But this is a great one because, uh, if you're sneaking there, that's that's good. So, if I say to you, "Anybody want to answer a test question?" So, if I say something like, you know, "You, you're now living in your eighth decade." >> Okay. "If I say that, how old are you roughly?" >> "70." No, that's not correct. >> Okay. "If you're now living in your eighth decade," >> "you're 70 plus, right? And then when you get to be 80, you're starting your ninth decade." >> "Just pay attention. It's good." So, LA was slow to learn this because, uh, when he turned 70, I said, "Man, you're in your eighth decade." He said, "No, I'm not." So, we, now he's well into his eighth decade.
And, uh, so the reason, >> "Why am I here, really? Why am I? Why do I put up with it?" >> The reason I bring this up is it says, "This question is for the oldest person on the panel." >> I'm showing you what the question says. And in fact, in parentheses, it says, "It's not Mondo." I, I didn't write it, but this is a good question. It says, "Do you think you will live to see Christ's return?" Mr. La Marzulli, the oldest person on the panel. >> "Yes." >> It's good. I'll, I'll share something with you, but I can't share something with you. Okay? I had an open vision about three weeks ago. I can't tell you what it was because the Lord, that's my point. The Lord told me, "You can't tell anybody except for one person. It wasn't my wife." I went and told that person. Open vision. I was a little depressed. I was laying on my side and, and just kind of praying to the Lord, and all of a sudden, open vision. I've only had two in 45 years. So, it's not like, you know, I travel in this stuff. I kind of do, but not like that. And I just sat there and just went, was overwhelmed by what I saw. That's all I'll say. >> "Thanks." >> "Do with that what you will." >> "Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for nothing, La. I really appreciate." >> "You're welcome, Mondo." >> "Yes, we are." >> "That's right. Okay."
So, this was just really quick. I'm trying to get through these. It says, "I've never heard about the 75-day period. Please explain." Well, I explained all about that. I don't know who wrote this. I explained all about that last night at the 75-day interval. But if you want more information on that, I, I recommend Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum's book, *The Footsteps of the Messiah*. Uh, he's the one that I first heard it from, but we, I would just recommend, just for the sake of time, to check that out. Okay.
Uh, this could be. Let's start over there with Lee. Uh, Lee, do you believe that the Antichrist will be a Nephilim? >> "Absolutely." >> Okay. >> "So, if I get two, you know how some people get two Scooby biscuits when they go down this path? Like, I get two biscuits from my gentleman friend over here. They're not Scooby biscuits. All right. Anyway, we'll leave that one go."
So, here's how I handle it. Genesis 3:15, there's a seed war going on between the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman. There's a seed line of the serpent that goes through all history. There's a seed line of the woman that goes through the messianic line all the way to the Messiah. The seed war will not come to an end until the end of the tribulation when the seed of the serpent, the Antichrist, will be in tremendous spiritual battle with the seed of the woman, who's the Messiah, fighting from heaven, working through the two witnesses, the 144,000, the Spirit-baptized Jews, and the angels that circulate the earth. That battle will come to a head when the Lord Jesus descends from heaven and crushes the serpent line. >> "Amen." >> Y >> "Answer. Want to add anything? Go ahead." >> "I'm just trying to take this in. LA's got an important vision, but he won't tell us. And you're eating Scooby biscuits, and I'm, I'm confused." >> "We're off to a good start." >> Y >> "Um." >> "Absolutely. And let me, let me throw this in your face. Is that why did they make a movie like *Rosemary's Baby*? Just let that sink in. Remember that from the 60s? Why? Why did they make that movie? And *Rosemary's Baby* is the character of Rosemary becomes impregnated with the Antichrist. It's predictive programming. They, now that's conspiracy, woo-woo stuff, but is it really? Why make a movie like that? You know, why did they make the movie? And it was really creepy. I saw it before I was a Christian. And she carries the Antichrist and gives birth to the Antichrist. Very dark, very disturbing movie. I would not recommend it. Read the cliff notes. But in my opinion, it's predictive programming."
And the only thing I'll add is, going along with what Lee said, when you go to Genesis 3:15, and it, it, it sets it up in parallel. You have the seed of the woman, and then you have the seed of the serpent. Well, the seed of the woman, in Hebrew, the word is *zera*. It's, it just means seed. It can mean offspring. And so when you compare those, the, some of this is kind of freaky, right? It's kind of weird. Let's be honest. But all of us understand that the seed of the woman that God says is specifically referenced to Jesus. That's a physical seed. So, to me, in the sense of hermeneutics or understanding scripture, it's a little tough to go, "Okay, well, this one's going to be literal. The seed of the woman is literal. And then right in the second phrase over, we're going to change this one to figurative or metaphorical." That's a little challenging to me. And so I think, in, in the basic, we're literal. It there definitely was literal for Jesus. And so it would be literal. And, and then we, when we fast forward to Genesis 6, we understand, "Oh, this is, this is, this can happen." And so I think that that proximity there helps us to understand. Sure.
"Real quick. So the seed, it's the dragon's seed that enters the woman. It's similar to, you know, the virgin birth, but it's not obviously, but it's a mimic. So, it's the seed of the dragon who impregnates the woman, and he's, he's a modern-day Nephilim in my opinion."
"One last thought, real quick. The Antichrist and the false prophet are cast directly into the lake of fire. They do not go to the Great White Throne Judgment, which implies to me every human being, this true human being, is going to be at the Great White Throne Judgment if they're lost. So these two do not qualify to go to the Great White Throne."
"So on that, would you then be implying that the false prophet is a Nephilim also?" >> "Yes." >> "Any scripture you have specifically, or it's just kind of a thought? Just from the connection that go straight to the lake of fire." >> "Good." >> "Huh?" >> "Oh, yeah. This is fun. All right. Second question. Uh, this is, this is a very good question. Comes up all the time. And we'll just start with Lee again over there. Some of our brothers and sisters in Christ who don't believe in the pre-trib rapture, they will cite as proof for their view the first resurrection mentioned in Revelation 20. And I'll add to that, in the sense of because Revelation 20 is post-Jesus's return, it mentions the resurrection there. Therefore, you can't have a resurrection at the beginning of the tribulation period. It can only be because that would be the rapture resurrection. He mentions the first resurrection that happens after Jesus comes back. Therefore, from this perspective, the post-trib view would be correct because of that verse. How do you answer?"
Well, to me, these folks end up using the same kind of arguments that folks use to deny the Trinity. You know, they're going to look at verses that talk about the unity in the Godhead and they say, "Therefore, there can only be one person in the Godhead." Well, if you can have three persons in the Godhead, then you can have three parts of the first resurrection. You can have the, the Lord Jesus himself rising from the dead. You can have the rapture of the church, and you can have the saints, the tribulation and Old Testament saints at the second coming. This isn't three different resurrections. This is three aspects of the same resurrection. It's one unified resurrection. The same way the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit are one unified person.
>> "Okay. Billy is." >> "Yeah. There's, uh, at least four different resurrections, uh, mentioned in the scripture. And, uh, in order to interpret the scripture correctly, scripture interprets scripture. And what's the most important rule? It's the same as in real estate. Location, location, location. Scripture is context, context, context. Context determines the meaning of a passage. So the first question is, okay, it's resurrection, but which one? Jesus had a resurrection. We're going to have a resurrection at the rapture. There's going to be a resurrection of the Old Testament saints. There's an assumed resurrection, uh, at the end of the millennial kingdom. And then you've got the Great White Throne Judgment where people are brought up from hell as they're going to be judged and then thrown into the lake of fire. And this is where a lot of people get timing and things messed up because they take one word that is used in different places, they assume it's all talking about, uh, the same, uh, occurrence, and they're not. So that's where I would say they're getting that wrong. Uh, and the other thing I'll just give you another easy example of that, uh, context, context, context. Saints. Another argument that they want to use to try to put the church in the seven-year tribulation is they say, "Well, see, it says right here, uh, saints, and it's talking about in the seven-year tribulation." Well, yeah, the Bible talks about saints in the seven-year tribulation, but context, context, context. The Bible talks about Old Testament saints, New Testament saints, tribulation saints, those get saved after the rapture, and millennial saints. Which one are you referring to? And that's the game that they play. They'll take a word completely out of context and make a faulty assumption that it's talking about, you know, rapture, pre-post, whatever. It's like, no, that's not how you interpret the scripture. The scripture interprets scripture. And I'll just give you an easy one. This is, and this is like, "Oh, you guys are just coming up with these rule, this common sense rules." And I'll close with this. Uh, the word "cool," right? C-O-O-L, right? We can all agree on that. Praise God. Three of you went to school, right? The rest of you, I'm glad you're here, right? Uh, but does it always mean the same thing? No. And that's common sense. I could use the exact same English word, spelled the exact same way, and it's the context that determines the meaning. The proper meaning. For instance, I could say, "Hey, just because I talked about the Scooby biscuits, why your attitude is a little cool to me, dude? Come on. We're brothers in Christ." I was just joking, right? All right. Or, right, I could say, "Woo, compared to Vegas, it's kind of cool out here." Yes. No, but whatever. Work with me. But anyway, so, uh, or right, or I could say, "LA, don't you want to win the golden jacket? This is cool. This is a cool jacket, right? All you got to do is put your name in the bucket at our table." And which, by the way, is true. If you guys want to win the golden jacket, we're doing a drawing. Put your name in the bucket. Uh, Saturday, Lord willing, we're so alive and still here, I'm going to draw the name anyway. So, but here's my point. Exact same word, spelled the exact same way. Three, but it had three totally different meanings. What determined the correct meaning? The context in which it's placed in. And I'm telling you, this is an old hat trick for those who want to put the church in the seven-year tribulation. They cherry-pick a, a, a word and they wrench it out of its context. Don't be fooled by that."
>> "Amen." >> "Can't assume that cool always means groovy." >> "That's right. The spirit of Greg Brady is all over you. This is amazing. My favorite is the, uh, anybody watch, talking about Scooby, anybody watch Scooby like the Flintstones?" >> "Right. What did they say? We were going to have a what?" >> "A gay old time." >> "Whoa. How things have changed in one generation."
So, just remember that words change quickly. Um, I will add just one thing here in the sense of reading. It's talking about in Revelation 20 about the tribulation saints who had been killed. It says they came to life, resurrected and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until a thousand years were ended. And so, and then it says, basically, the ones that came to life, this is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection. What we, what we see in, in Daniel chapter 12 and John chapter 5, is both of those passages speak about two resurrections. One is a resurrection unto life, and one is a resurrection unto death or condemnation. Okay. So, what, what you see here, and people look this up, we, we assume because it says "first" that it's sequential. Well, in Greek, the word is, is can also be used as a category. Anybody that is part of the first resurrection, this category of blessed resurrection, again, whether it's Jesus, 1 Corinthians 15:20 says that he's the first fruits of, and the rest are in their order. So you have several different resurrections, the, the two witnesses as well in Revelation 11. Like, "Well, you can't have them. They're resurrected." Well, wait a minute. They're, they're not after the tribulation is over. So you can have anybody that is resurrected that is part of this blessed resurrection unto life in all the different, uh, sequences, is still part of this first resurrection. It's a category, not a sequence. The rest are part of that second resurrection, which you don't want to be a part of that. That leads to the Great White Throne Judgment. And so people that make the comment there that it has to be, they're only seeing it as a sequence. And then, as, as these guys said, well, there goes Jesus, because he's, he certainly wasn't resurrected after the, the, um, the tribulation period. So, we appreciate that. That's a good question.
Um, all right, LA, I'm going to start with you on this one. Um, what is the difference? This is a great question. What is the difference between the watchers, the Nephilim, and the fallen angels?
>> "The watchers are a class of angels. There's good ones and bad ones. The book of Enoch talks about 200 watcher angels, the setting in the days of Jared on Mount Hermon. What's interesting, remind me to come back after the rabbit trail. Um, because of the, of the, uh, Israel has taken over the entire area of Mount Hermon, which means that the ancient temple is there. I couldn't go to that the last time I was in Israel. But if the war ever stops and I can go over, I can go down to that temple where 200 watcher angels. There was a stone of steel. We are they who did the oath and that whole thing, the the mountain of the oath. So the watcher angels, the fallen watcher angels come down and there are the 200 that, um, take the wives, that's plural, and create the Nephilim. So what's the second one?"
>> "The watchers, the Nephilim, and the fallen angels."
>> "Nephilim. And this is, it could be confusing. The Nephilim are the progeny of fallen angels and human women, creating an offspring, an unholy offspring that, in my opinion, conjecture on my part, is soulless. They have no soul. Only God can give a soul. So the Nephilim are the, are the, are the progeny of fallen angels and human women. Then we get the watchers in Daniel. That's a good one. So it's a class. A watcher, in my opinion, is a class of angel. There can be good ones and bad ones. Nephilim are the progeny of the, of the unholy watchers that come down, take the wives, and it's not a frat party. It's not like a weekend frat party. They're here for hundreds and hundreds of years. So now we get into the whole pyramid thing, and we'll talk about that later."
>> "Billy, uh, yeah, category angels, uh, watchers, and, you know, the scripture alludes that even in the New Testament where Paul talks about in whom we have to deal, uh, spiritual warfare with, that we need to put on the armor of God, right? Principalities, you know, so there's, there's a hierarchical structure there, which I always like to kick this here. It is the, the evil one, and you've got demons that are working with him, uh, and there's a hierarchy. And, and, you know, it's a spiritual battle. Battle. That's military army verbiage because it is a war. Spiritual war, spiritual warfare, right? And isn't it interesting? We know in the vernacular physically, that if you're going to win a war, what, what do you need? Your military needs to follow orders. There's structure, there's order. Uh, if your military is in chaos and nobody's listening, there's everybody's doing their own thing, you're going to lose 100% of the time. The enemy knows that. So when he structures his battle against us, it's in order. He knows the importance of order, functionality, working together as a complete unit to what? To do evil. And then yet we're soldiers of Jesus Christ. And what do we do? We end up beating each other up. We're going to do our own thing. I ain't going to listen to you. We don't want to submit to any hierarchical structure to the Lord. And you wonder why we're in a mess. That's just a little side note. Anyway, watch your. So you've got an angel category. You see that category? I see even in the New Testament. That's not a surprise, right?"
>> "Uh, you can go down the occult, uh, in the occult route, which I was a part of, definitely hierarchical structure. Uh, certain demons had certain functions and would do certain things, just the way it is, right? They're all evil, but they serve a different function in a hierarchical order. Nephilim, obviously, totally agree. That's pretty easy in the text, Genesis 6. That is the hybrid offspring of sons of God, fallen angels, based on the context, who cohabited and mingled with the daughters of men, right? Uh, and then demons, I believe are part of the fallen angels, uh, that went with, uh, Satan, uh, in his rebellion, the one-third, uh, things of that nature. I hold to that particular position. But even then, there's like categories and subcategories of that. You have, uh, Peter talks about this, Jude talks about that, that the particular angels who were involved in that sin with the Nephilim, that they are permanently bound. So there's angels that are permanently bound, and they ain't never getting out. Then you have angels that, fallen angels, demons that are temporarily bound, and that's when we see in Revelation where, uh, they're going to be released, certain angels, and they're going to kill a third of mankind, >> "right? right?" >> "and things of that nature. And then you've got the ones that we're still dealing with, right? That, that bring torment, temptation, all the junk that we have to do, uh, with. The good news is, one day, every last one of them, they're all going to be chucked into the lake of fire. And that's where I love the promise that we have in Christ that one day, uh, we are headed towards the new heavens and the new earth. And I love what it says. No more death, no more crying, no more mourning, no more pain. And guess what? No more devil. No more demons. No more spiritual warfare. No more. It's gone forevermore. Anything? So, if you're taking notes, I'll just give you a quick summary in that sense that the word watcher appears only in Daniel chapter 4 in the Bible. Uh, sons of God is a, is a word that appears in, in Genesis 6 and Job 1, 2, and 38. But what, the reason why that's important is because in Genesis 6, the sons of God are the ones that are messing with women, producing the Nephilim hybrid. But in the book of Enoch, chapter 6, it calls that group watchers. This is why it can be confusing, like watchers, who are they? Well, if you're going to compare those, the watch, book of Enoch calls them watchers. The Bible calls them the sons of God. And we know second Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 calls them angels. So, there's a little bit of interesting stuff there, which clearly are fallen. All right.
Uh, this is a question about the red heifer. It says, uh, the original red heifer ashes from the past. Have they been found? Do you ever hear about talk about that from the rabbis? Could they be used for the third temple? There, there's been rumors about the ashes of the red heifer, uh, like in archaeological context, found for 20, 30 years. Uh, there's a guy by the name of Vendyl Jones, if you remember him from a couple, couple decades ago. He, he made a big, uh, wave because he was claiming that he knew where they were. Now, if they found them, let's say they went under the, they got permission to dig under the Temple Mount or something, and, well, lo and behold, there they are. Uh, that would be, that would be very helpful. They could use those. But the rabbis currently recognize that we can't wait on those, and whether they're ever found. They might not ever be found. Because the last ashes were from the first century. And so that's why they're taking the steps now to come up with their own efforts to create new ashes. And secondly, I'll say, there, there's a rumor out there that the, in the current ashes, if they had the ceremony now, have to be mixed with the previous ashes. That's not true at all. The Bible doesn't say anything about that. So, you guys want to add anything on that? Good.
Um, okay. I'm shuffling a little bit because, um, all right. This is, this is kind of goes along with similar to what we just discussed. Um, when, uh, Lee, we can start with you. When did the 200 watchers leave heaven and who, and who led them? Was it Satan or another angel?
>> "Well, according to the ancient Jewish literature, it was another angel. It was not Satan himself that led those 200 down here to earth. And it, it's interesting that the names appear in not just the Jewish literature. Of course, we're there. They're going to have names that sound Aramaic or Jewish, but some of those names also appear in other literature. They're mentioned in the Greek mythology, a few of the names. So the other thing I would say is I think that that descent that's mentioned in the literature has to be the descent after the flood and not the descent before the flood. And the reason I think that is whatever mountain that we have that's Mount Hermon today that rose up after the flood. Mount Hermon before the flood was, is we know nothing about that mountain."
>> "Yeah. Remember, I'll just add Genesis 10 talking about the days of Peleg, the earth was divided, and so the idea of Pangea, a super Pangea, there was one continent. I think that's very, that's very could be very scriptural. And so you have the Bible giving a mention of the earth being divided, whether that's the land, it just says the earth, *ha-aretz*, so it could refer to people, but I think most often it refers to the land. So, as Lee mentioned, the flood destroyed everything. So exactly where again, the mountains that we have, I would also say too, that when, this is just kind of an extra bonus in that sense, that when we think about the, I believe in a global flood. I think the Bible's very clear. There's over 50 things that are in the Genesis 6 through 8 that describe it being universal. And so people say, 'So you really think that Mount Everest at 29,000 feet was covered with water?' Well, you're assuming that Mount Everest was 29,000 feet at that time. Because if you, in fact, if you take all the mountains and bring them down, and all the, the Mariana Trench and bring it up, uh, and flatten all the earth, the land mass, you, you have 10,000 feet of water. So, just, it's, it's like the Mariana Trench went down, Mount Everest went up, and the water went down. So, uh, we have to be careful not to assume the way things were during the flood and where as what they are now. Going back, yet we would also have to understand that according to the ancient Vedic literature from India, the Himalayan mountains rose at what we would regard as the close of the Silver Age, which would be the time of Abraham, >> "and, uh, and Sodom and Gomorrah. So those judgments that we see in the Bible that happened at the time of Babel, that happened at the time of, uh, Sodom and Gomorrah, that happened at the time of the Exodus, in secular history, we see th, those same events, the end, the Gold Age, in the Silver Age, in the Bronze Age. And those events we see sweeping from, uh, central Africa all the way up into Europe and into Asia. There were widespread events. The Bible just covers how it affected the line of the Messiah. Okay."
>> "Billy, uh, why did God choose Israel as his people? Had to choose somebody, right? And you think about the choosing of Israel. Who did it start with? Abraham. So technically, he's just a guy, pagan, right? Come from where? The Chaldees, which, by the way, is called the Fertile Crescent. If you look at the map, it goes like this. And that tells me where they got that name from. Because if you, it's kind of a steep curve. You guys ever drive really fast around a curve and you go?" >> "Yeah." >> "Yeah. I've been using that since Bible college and people still hate me for saying that every time, but I think it's funny. Let's move on. No. So, you know, you do it when you take a, you still do it today, man. Around the corner. So, he went and it came down the Fertile Crescent. Anyway, that's the way my brain thinks. Now, he explains the jacket. But anyway, so I digress. So, here we are. He's just a guy. It's later from his progeny, we have the development of the Jewish people, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, the 12 sons, the 12 tribes, and Israel. So really, if you boil it down to it, it's just he picked a guy, right? And out of, and the reason why did he pick the guy? It goes back to Genesis. God promised one day that from the seed of the woman, he's going to crush the head of the serpent. Genesis 3:15. And that right there, from the get-go, tells you God's grace and mercy, that one day he's going to undo what the evil one did."
And he, in order for that promise to come, that okay, it's seed from the woman, that's Eve. So somebody from the lineage of Eve, the first one who got tempted, then Adam, is he's going to reverse it. So somewhere along the line from the lineage of humanity is going to come the Messiah. It's going to come the Genesis 3:15 promise. So again, it's just practical. Got to start from somewhere, right? And so that's what he did. But that's encouraging to you and I. >> "Uh, with that. And, uh, believe it or not, in the midst of man making the biggest mistake, our parents, Adam and Eve, choosing to rebel against God, uh, that again shows us immediately his mercy. That he could have said, you know what? I gave you everything, and how dare you rebel against me. He could have nuked the planet and started all over. But what did he do? So, he's a God of love and mercy. One day, I'm going to fix it. And you know what? You can't fix it because you're tainted with sin. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to do it myself. In fact, I'm going to do it with my son, my only son."
The other thing that's very merciful that's in there, and I don't know if you ever thought about this, um, you know, it says that they eventually were banished from the garden, right? And, uh, and then there was an angel with the sword going back and forth to keep him from going back. You're like, why would God do that? Well, because I believe that if they were to ever, now they have a sin nature, they already rebelled. If they were to eat from the tree of life, then they would have forever been stuck in that sinful state and never could have been redeemed. And so that was another act of mercy keeping mankind from making that next mistake.
>> "Y, uh, if you're two verses that come to mind just as a wrap-up, Joshua 24:2, where Joshua recounts that Abraham was an idol worshipper from across the river, the Euphrates. I mean, that's, that's, that's a pretty good resume, right? And then Deuteronomy 9 tells us quite clearly that God says, 'Israel, you're, you're not special. It's not because of your righteousness. It's because I made a promise to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that I'm bringing you in.' And so, but as soon as God says, 'I choose you,' now we're special. So, the special nature that we have is not because of anything inherent in us, but as Christians, if you're a Christian, God chose you. So, all of a sudden, you're extremely special in his eyes. Why? Because he put that on you. That now, that's a great blessing. Um, all right. LA, what are your thoughts about a government disclosure of recovered giant bones by the Smithsonian? And I would say that this is probably precipitated by some of the things that Trump is doing and that are trying to force these, like the CIA and others, to give up their information and their files. So, I guess what are your thoughts about that? Do you think the Smithsonian's going to give up the goods?"
>> "Interestingly enough, there's a petition on our table and it's to petition the government to, um, basically tell the museums to release. We want lists of what they have. We want photographs because it's taxpayer money. So, I came up with that three weeks ago and did a show on it. And just a couple days ago, Trump signs an executive order for the Smithsonian due to ideological differences or they have a, a paradigm which is a Darwinian paradigm, which they are, uh, basically wherever you go, that's what you see. Well, as Christians in this room, we all take, umbrage at that. We look at that and go, 'Well, that's fine. You can believe what you want to believe.' But this is taxpayer dollars that are doing that. In my opinion, yes, the Smithsonian has giant bones. I sort of proved that when I went out to Catalina Island. I found the picture of Ralph Gooden, who's 5'8". He's leaning up against a shovel like this. In front of him is a, is a, uh, skeleton. It's not disarticulated, it's a skeleton. We had three different people look at that. It's a 9-footer. And then we found another skeleton, six fingers, huge mandible, a lower jaw, and that was also around nine feet. Um, there's too many reports. And all we know, and Mondo will attest to this, that once one is discovered, even, even in modernity, let's say 15, 20 years ago, the guys with the, you know, the antennas on the black SUVs come in, they quadrant off all of a site. How do I know that? I have people come up to me and tell me the story and they took pictures on my cell phone of the huge skeleton, and the next day, all the cell phones were confiscated and all the pictures were deleted, and they signed non-disclosure agreements. They know. And, and let me just end by this. We have a right to know."
>> "Yep." >> "What's there." >> "Because we pay the taxes. Okay. We have a right to know and sign the petition that's on our table. I want 200,000 and, you know, signatures, and then we're going to present it. I want lists of everything that they have because there's a kid in history that's been deliberately obfuscated from the peoples of the world, and that's why we're on the trail of a Nephilim because that's the truth."
>> "Amen." >> "Yep. Not to create a church fight, but what do you guys think if we start a petition? Because we want to know what this vision is. I'm still wondering, but." >> "We're going to petition the Lord. Hey, man, make it up." >> "We want I'm." >> "I had to open my big mouth, right?" >> "No, but seriously, I, I actually, as you're saying that, I fully agree with you. I, man, my own research, it's, uh, in fact, this is the secular term for it, they call it Smithsonian gate. And I have quoted two, uh, researchers, secular, and they even, they even admit it. And this is their phrase, not mine. They said, 'They are covering up as much as they're digging up.' Right? And because there is so much evidence, uh, that agrees with the biblical account, because we're the only one with an answer, right? Because you find giants, oh, that, that, that just smacks in their face the whole lie of evolution. They protect that thing with a vengeance, a satanic vengeance. Uh, because they don't want you to believe in God. They don't want you to believe in the Bible, right? We, we got the answer. There were giants before and also afterwards. Piece of cake. So, right. So, of course, they cover it up. Uh, I also, these guys describe how many, you guys remember that scene from, uh, the first Indiana Jones, right? There at the very end. What they says, you know, okay, what are you going to do with the ark? We've, you know, we'll take care of it. And very, and what they do, they crate it away, and then they show a guy with the crate, and he puts it in that, in a spot, but then the camera pans out, and you see it's a gigantoid warehouse, and then you go, 'What else you got in there?' And what these guys, and that's, no, I, I gave you that visual on purpose because secular researchers are saying, not just Christian researchers are saying, that's really what's going on. Any piece of biblical evidence that is found is buried, destroyed. I got one guy that said he, he found some biblical evidence and he, he called, uh, the program Nova from PBS, right? And the guy says, 'I'll be right out.' And so, I kid you not, he flies out and at the site, and before the guy gets there in the morning, the, the Nova guy beat him, he's out there with a crowbar destroying the evidence. That's not science, folks. That's not science. And so, anyway, here's my point. What I feel led to do that, fully agree, it's not a conspiracy. They're covering up as much as they're digging up. Which also explains why we find high-tech stuff buried in the dirt."
"That too. We have the answer. They don't. Because when you go back, they say that further back in human history, man was dumb, dragging his knuckles. That's not what we find. We find very, uh, high-tech machinery, springs, all kinds of stuff that, of course, would be the pre-flood society, which agrees with the biblical account. Because now you're closer to the parent root route, be as sin first entered. If anything, we've devolved, gotten worse. But back then, the intelligence was off the charts. That's why after the fall of Genesis 3, then you read people like Tubal-Cain, right? And the other guy who invented metallurgy, I can't even build a shed. This guy out of the, there's no textbook to read. There's no college to go to. He just wakes up and goes, 'I'm going to invent metallurgy, make with metal.' More than that, Tubal-Cain, I believe he was the one that says what invented musical instruments and stuff like, no, he didn't go to school for that. There was no Juilliard. And it wasn't just inventing music, which is extremely complex mathematical formulas, if you know anything about music. But then he decided, okay, and then I'm going to make something we don't have. Musical. I mean, the, the IQ must have been off the charts. So, that explains why you find high-tech advanced stuff that we're just now discovering. Easy one that's out there. There's no conspiracy theory. Uh, the Baghdad Battery, which even secularists admit that's real. What was that? That's a battery. It's like a modern-day Duracell battery that there, which also explains over to the pyramids. And the pyramids for years are going like, 'How in the world did they get in complete darkness in these giant tunnels? There's no smoke from torches.' Well, maybe because they had a source of lights, electricity. And so evolutionists, if they find something that agrees with the biblical account, because we can explain it. Wow. Yes. Pre-flood technology, you know, eventually we lost it, especially with the destruction with wars and the Alexandria Library and stuff. We, and so we're only rediscovering electricity. We're only, you see what I'm saying? We have the answer for it. But here, I'm going to warn you with this, because there's another element that's coming in saying, 'Yep, there were giants, and they're hiding it from us. Yep, we find high-tech material.' But the enemy's very slick. What you should say is, and it agrees with the biblical account, only the Bible gives the answer why we find giants and high-tech machinery buried in the dirt. That must be from the Bible. Because when you see that, you're going, 'Oh, that Bible really is true. Maybe I should start reading it.' Right? So, they don't want that. But listen, so the next one, and they're already prepping you for it, and I just say this to warn you. So let's say it does get disclosed. Trump forces the Smithsonian to unveil what they've been hiding. I'm just going to warn you. I'm not saying, 'Thus say the Lord.' I'm going to warn you. You know what they're going to say?" >> "Aliens." >> "That's right." >> "They're going to. They will not say, 'Oh, the Bible got it right. Read your Bible. Christians have been right this whole time. It's aliens.'" >> "They're going to say, 'Aliens are one. It's panspermia.' See, this is proof that they came here and genetically modified early man. And that's why he got a really big head. He was giant, right? And I'm not joking. And but the average person who doesn't know the Bible, which is a bunch, unfortunately, and who already believes in aliens, oh, they're going to eat it right up. And so here, I'm just warning you."
>> "I believe if it happens, the enemy will very quickly steer people once again in the wrong direction." >> "Yep." >> "The great deception."
I'll also say that, um, I've been working on a project for a while, and what I was able to do was, uh, download, which took a long time, and to find all of the Smithsonian archaeological reports from 1849 all the way to 1930. And the Smithsonian, they, they have them all online, which again, in different spots, sometimes are difficult, but they also have around 1870, they started what's called the Bureau of Ethnology. And so it's a whole another sequence of reports. These are just their field reports, um, 7,800, 900 pages long. And so I've downloaded them and put them in various locations, like back to backups. And what you can do is, I, I started going through all these, and you can search them digitally. So putting in giant, 7-foot, 8-foot, gigantic, different search terms. And so it's, so I'm, I'll be doing a project probably, uh, presenting it in Norman, but the Smithsonian, in their own words, where they've described already 7-foot giants, 8-foot giants that were dug up by, it says dug up by Bureau archaeologists. But today, really, from about 1879 on, a guy by the name of John Wesley Powell changed because he was a complete Darwinian. He changed what and did exactly what Billy just described. No more giant talk. No more, none of that. We are the supreme. We're not, we're not devolving from these guys that built the mounds. And so it's interesting that after that, they began to hide everything and and confiscate everything, as we know from the late 1800s, early 1900s, from other, um, newspaper clippings and stuff. So, it's already there. And so, I'll be sharing that and documenting, and also be praying for us because we have several projects right now that we're working on that, um, have the potential to find unexcavated Nephilim giants. And so, we're praying that the Lord would allow us to do that before he comes and to expose this. It's just, it's actually, it's a little bit, uh, harrowing because not only spiritually, you have the spiritual things about it, but we're not fearful, but just the enemy is trying to prevent some of that. And so I appreciate your prayers on that.
All right, Lee. Uh, Matthew 27, this is, this comes up often. It says here, this is right after, um, you'll know this, but it says Matthew 27:51, "And behold, the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom, and the earth shook, and the rocks were split. The tombs also were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised. And coming out of the tombs after Jesus's resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many." What's going on here, Lee? What's the explanation for this passage?
>> "Well, I take it at face value that the graves literally did open and that men who had fallen asleep in the Lord Jesus came out of their graves and walked amongst mankind. I can't tell you how long they were walking around, whether it was just a few minutes or a few hours or a few days. But I do take it literally. And I, you know, of course, it's going to raise the question, did these people die again, the second death, which is a standard pattern for resurrection from the dead, or did they ascend to heaven and they're up in heaven, um, more or less in the same state as Moses and Elijah? Um, they're alive but not resurrected. So, I'm not sure which way that goes, but I do take that account very literally."
>> "Don't you just want a little bit more, >> "information?" >> "God's always like, 'Ah, you're not going to get it.' All right, sorry. Um, >> "He said, 'So, here are the question.' So, this kind is is similar in the sense of did these people did again, did they get their glorified bodies and somehow go up to heaven? There's no evidence of that. Or did they die again, like for example, Lazarus? Um, it says, 'Can you make a case for the two witnesses to be Elijah and Enoch based on Hebrews 9:27, which says, 'It is appointed unto men once to die.'?"
>> "Go ahead, Lee, you can start again if you want." >> "I think that's a misunderstanding of Hebrews 9:27. In Hebrews 9:27, I think the real message here is not that every man has to die once and no man gets to die twice. The real message is if you die in your sins, there is no second chance. Because the fact of the matter is, everybody that was raised from the dead in the Old Testament or the New Testament, they died more than once because they were brought back to life and they're going to have to die a second time. That's also a fact that at the rapture, >> "there's a whole generation they're not going to die. Now, if we all have to die, the rapture is going to get very ugly before it gets very glorious because we're all going to go up to about a mile up and the Lord's going to drop us over the airport runways and over the highways and we're all going to splat before we raise from the dead. So, no, we don't have to die once. So, we're, it's, it's going to be a glorious time."
>> "Yeah. Amen. Would that be discourage one another with these words? Is that the, the new translation or?" >> "Yeah, that's where I was." >> "Just checking. Just checking." >> "This, this is where I think context, as Billy said, you can read a passage and you're going, 'Oh, look at that. Everybody has to die. There it is. It's, it's, and we make these things like a standard or a rule that can't be broken.' But then what it, it relays is, well, again, as Lee mentioned, what about all these."
other instances that now are exceptions? And there goes the whole rapture generation.
>> Well, real quick, man, I'm glad you say that. That's God. Last time I checked, he's God.
>> And that is he lays out the norms, but as God, the creator of the universe, if he wants to supersede and do anything, he's supernatural. If he wants to intervene with a natural law, that is universal, but that's his prerogative. Last time I checked, he makes up the rules. He can do whatever he wants. And so, we should expect that from a supernatural God.
>> Absolutely. All right. This will be our last question unfortunately man. Um this is good because uh it says do you believe that there will be another COVID type pandemic in the near future? It says oops I forgot about the bird flu. Okay. If such a pandemic occurs, how should the church react or respond? So we have two things here. Do we believe that there's going to be another pandemic? And secondly, if that's the case, how should the church respond? We can start and go all the way down. Go to LA. Any thoughts?
>> How many people believe that the first CO thing was a complete scam?
>> There we go. Give yourselves a hand. Seriously,
>> let let's hear it. Thank you.
>> I mean, and and what what what was you know, it was all fear. We're going to get it. We're going to Don't take hydroxychloricquin, you know? Right. Right. The whole deal. I mean, it was a scam. It was an absolute scam. My opinion is with this administration, no way. now, but who knows? Anything can change and it can change on a dime. Just look at Syria. Assad's gone and the butchers are there overnight just like that. So, you know, anything can happen, but uh it would not surprise me. That's just what I think. It will not surprise me at all.
>> Well, if we're still alive and still here, I encourage you to come to uh my first message uh tomorrow, kill Gates and the End of Humanity. uh because he freely admits that they are planning on it one way or another. Just like last time they did the dry run before called event 2011,
>> they've already done the dry run for the next one.
>> That's it.
>> Uh catastrophic contagion. They've already done it, folks.
>> Uh Bill Gates is still working with Fouchy. Uh Fouchi just happened to get pardon.
>> So he's free to do it again
>> thanks to Biden legally doesn't make it right morally but anyway and the research that I came across is one of the things they've got different scenarios on the table. One of the things they have continued brought up is bird flu. Whether that's the one, I don't know, but they they talk about that, including they have already stockpiled bird flu vaccines
>> ready to go. Because that was one of the things that early on tipped me off with the plemic personally in my research was I just math. Turn to somebody say math is our friend. Math is our friend. It really is, right? Math doesn't lie. It is what it is. The numbers are there. and looking at this COVID pandemic, this bug that they deliberately released, but then they said, "We better hurry up and invent this vaccine." And so you do the math, look at the time from they said this bug got released and then from that time market and then here they got the first vaccine finally out. Do the math, folks. There's not enough time to manufacture billions of doses of that. And that was your first clue that again, it was pre-planned, all that stuff. But my point is they they do have that plan. Uh now, what do you do? Well, hey, if the rapture happens, we don't have to worry about But but here's my point. This is why us as a church, we're still to this day are very proactive. We don't do this out of fear. It's just we don't know when God's going to come and take us. You fool me once, you ain't get me a second time. And so what we have done as a church in Vegas is we have launched our own Christian medical practice.
>> Wow.
>> Right.
>> Beautiful.
>> And it's called the Salt and Light Medical Center. And we use it to share the gospel and whatever. But but you will never and this is I'm not joking. This is our tagline. We're not here to jab you, stab you, or kill you, right? And uh but you'll never get any vaccine. And by the way, I'll just be blunt with you. Don't get any vaccine of any kind. The flu shot, no shot. I'm telling you folks, don't I'm not a doctor. I don't play one on TV. There's your legal disclaimer. Don't get anything from these guys, including I don't care if Trump starts supporting this new AMR. Don't get nothing. I'm telling you, it's it's don't. So anyway, because there's always a natural alternative back to as you mentioned hydro hydroxychloricquin but also Ivormectin and things of that nature. You know why they went after hydroxychloricquin ivormectin? This has now come out because in order for them to get the emergency use authorization by law, you cannot give an emergency use authorization which gave them the legal right to forego all testing to hurry and get it out. You can't get that if there is a alternative effective treatment. That's why they demonized both of those because if there was something else out there that could get rid of the bug, then you can't get that. So, it was all under. But here's my point. What we have also added to our layer of defense if we're still alive and still here and they do what they say they're going to do, do another plemic, we not only have our own Christian medical practice, but we uh and it's all legal obviously. uh we are that close to becoming an official uh medical uh dispensary where we will legally be able to offer uh hyperactim hydroxychloroquin to our heart's content
>> and we're going to open that up to not only the local area Vegas and the church online. I'm telling you just wait for it. But here's my point. I say that because being proactive with this bird flu, guess what is already showing signs? This is from medical doctors who haven't drunk the Kool-Aid of being able to if they release another bug, including bird flu, on us on purpose. Guess what is very effective in getting rid of it like that? Hydroxychloricquin. So, you're going to want to have a supply. Just very quickly, what
>> uh just stay in touch with us. Uh the the they're in Vegas. Give us a call, you know, if you say updates or whatever. Uh but but as soon as we're ready to go legally, which could be any week now with being able to offer that, uh oh, we're going to be blasting it on social media. Now, they may take it right off as soon as we put it up there, but we'll try as best we can to get the word out that uh uh start stocking up.
>> Just two quick thoughts that some people overlook when they come into this bigger picture for the um the diseases and for the vaccines and things like that. They're really the deep state was working on two distinct programs at the same time. There's the whole depopulation program that they're working on and at the same time they were working on technology for transhumanism and genetic manipulation and I think that a guinea pig experiment was being worked on people. This is why some lots had very few side effects and some lots had a tremendous amount of side effects. They were testing dozens of different technologies for the deliverance of the mRNA into the human body. And some of them worked really well and some of them worked miserably. And now they know.
>> Yeah. Amen.
>> All right. Thank you guys. We'll see you back at 6:45 after