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I was involved in Satanism. I was the leader of a satanic organization. I saw the satanic agenda with my own eyes. I was in meetings discussing the satanic agenda with other satanic.
You ask for this to have Rion back on the podcast. And holy smokes, dude. It has been such a wild last month since you came on. This was our by far our most watched episode by far. Close. Yeah. And I've had people reaching out and being like, "This has changed the way I pray for my kids. Uh the change think uh like my thought life." And so, thank you for that. Really excited to have you back on. I've got a bunch of questions for you. But we should just recap what's happened. Then we need to pray and and ask for covering. Um because we're fighting from victory, not for Yes. Amen. Yes.
All right, man. We're back on. If you guys knew just what it took to get this the tech of this podcast dialed, which is very simple tech, but we definitely have an enemy and opposition. And Riion, I don't even think I've told you everything that's gone on the last month since our last podcast. It has been insane. So, good to have you back on, though. We're We're not going to cower. We're not going to be scared. We're fighting victory. So, let's rock. Yeah. God didn't call us for like to have a spirit of fear. And yeah, welcome to my world is all I can say.
You know what's interesting um is what what I'm experiencing and the kind of attacks that that you know is targeted at people like what we're doing. I used to do the same thing to other people. Um so I think that kind of the ironic and funny part. So I know exactly how it works and why. Um, so God has very much equipped me um to have had the experiences I did and to cuz I I was pretty much working for the devil for 20 years. I think I mentioned that um you know in total like if we add up the the new age and the oult and satanism alto together. So the the experience that it gave me and the knowledge of how it works is very valuable today. And I mean, I can only pray that that God uses it to empower people. And besides being, you know, like it should be a reality check for for followers of Christ and for the body of Christ. Yes, absolutely, man.
Yeah, it definitely was a reality check for us. Like I uh man the the night that we did the podcast let me just take you through a sequence a timeline a sequence of minutes that night my eye blows up the whole thing just turns red like I'm not kidding. Then then we're laying in bed that night and my wife and I are looking at each other at like 3:00 in the morning like we're wide awake like not not anxious not scared we're just wide awake. The next night same thing can't sleep the whole night and now we're like uh oh like something's up. So now we start praying. The next night my children start vomiting and like diarrhea like like I've never seen a stomach flu like this in my life. They're like comaos in their beds. It was the saddest thing, dude. Then my wife gets hit with it. And so now she's on like day five of not sleeping, right? Cuz we were up all night. Literally the whole night. People are like, "Okay, literally." I'm like, "Literally, we were up the whole night with our kids. Did not sleep for a third night in a row." Then um she gets it and um then my uh throat blows up. I go on a field trip and my throat blows up and all of a sudden like my my uvula is like filled with puss and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this just doesn't stop, dude." And then my wife gets hit with crazy insomnia. And so it's it's just been Oh, the other thing, dude, I start almost stepping on snakes. I'm not joking. I'm walking outside. I was on the phone with a buddy and I'm he's like, "How you doing?" I'm like, "Dude, we've been getting cooked over here." And and I'm telling him all the attacks and I almost step on a snake and I freak out on the phone, right? Two minutes later, I almost step on another snake. He's like, "You need to get like a prayer covering." So, that's what I'm reaching out to all my prayer partners like, "Guys, we need you bad." So, and you said that you used to do this to people. Explain that.
Yes. Um, so before I do that, um, I just also want to mention, um, and this is something I'm definitely going to put out, um, is that this is what the Holy Spirit also revealed to me recently was that when I get invited, you know, for for podcasts and shows cuz I get a lot of invites. Um, and I would say about 10% of it I would say yes to as I'm led. But even for those, um, I should actually start asking people like, do you have covering? um are you prepared for what is coming with talking about these things and exposing it? So yes um to put it in a nutshell. So um there's there's there's very much things with astral projection firstly and astral scanning where um people in the occult and satism would would scan an area right and it's almost like there's there's pins if I can put it that way or um I'm trying to you to explain it on brass level but so um people who are a real threat glow up you know in certain areas and then those people are targeted specifically and um the first line of attack with that is to make you fearful and to to kind of find out what is the thing that matters to you most. So in your case with family that would matter. So, so through your family um things like disease is is it's very popular in in spiritual warfare from the Satanist side um to actually do that to to make you fearful and frustrated because then they can launch the next level. Um, and then obviously serpents is unfortunately I mean they're still created as God's creatures but um they're very much on that frequency of the enemy and the devil's work. Um, so it's Yeah, it's it's very easy to utilize that um to physically attack people, dude. I I like that's it's going to be hard for people to believe. I mean, I just snake snake snake. I'm like, what is happening? This is crazy. And you were telling me earlier, man, that our podcast got circulated. Tell me a little bit more about that.
Yeah. So I still have quite a few connections in the satanic community both in sort of Africa and overseas. Um especially with people who want to actually get out but but they are bound there. So they sometimes send me screenshots and information that is circulating in the network pertaining to me. So our podcast actually got on the radar of the Church of Satan in America and also at TST, the Satanic Temple, and also in local satanic groups. So I see that as a compliment, by the way, because it it it means we're actually doing something effective for the kingdom. Otherwise, we won't feature, you know, on their radar at all. Right. Well, we're just putting out notice right now that we're covered by the blood of Jesus. Amen. Of course people were like after what happened to you that first podcast you're going to go you're going to have him back on. And I'm like 100% we're having Rion back on and now we're going to expose it more because now people have been sending me questions like hey if you have Ron asking these questions and I'm like let's go man like we're going to we're let's let's blow the lid on this thing.
The one thing that I I was a little bummed we didn't get to dive a little bit more deep into last time just because of time constraints was your conversion story. I know we talked about it, but I I feel like I I was like after the podcast, I was like, "Man, I'd love to hear more of those details." So, almost as if you're like telling me for the first time. And if you're listening now uh and you didn't watch the first episode, you probably want to go back and watch our first interview with Rion. I believe it's like episode 22 of the Jesus People podcast or something like that. You can you can look it up. Um, but man, the the conversion experience was pretty radical, going from the head of the satanic church to then encountering Jesus. And so, could you just paint that with a little bit more color for us? Like, take us into what you were doing that day and then like I want to even hear the conversation that happened in that room. Like, just take take me fully into it. Like, I'm fascinated.
Sure. Um, so there m wasn't as much of a conversation although there there was a few words but it was more of an experience of the love of Christ in that moment. But so I think what is important to mention here is that 10 days prior to that um encounter and experience um I had a I had a um, a interview at a radio station and I I was doing an interview as a guest um of the satanic church. So being the spokesperson at the the time and in this in the studio there was a woman who kind of came in on the side who worked there and she embraced me. She she came and suddenly hugged me and that time of my life I I didn't actually allow people close to me so I didn't actually see her coming. So the next minute I was looking there was this woman hugging me and it was the most beautiful intense hug and my connection with her at that time was this was somebody that was organizing the interview for the radio station. So I had to send her some pictures 2 days later um to promote the show. And then I noticed she's a Christian. And this left such an impression and and a shock on me because no no Christian has really ever showed me that much unconditional love. And it was one of the most beautiful intimate hugs that I've ever experienced in my life. And it left, you see, it left the impression. So forward forward then to 8 days after that which was the the 24th of May 2022. And I was kind of um told or given a task to perform a ritual for the satanic church, but also for the satanic network around the world because um something that we can talk about today is there's a constant satanic agenda playing out and it it changes every 9 years. And um part of that in the current agenda was for for for all satanic organizations um to see whether the antichrist has been born yet or if it will be a physical person or will it be something like AI or what would it be? So the intent of the ritual that evening was for me to to see into the spirit world like really deeply intensely. And because of my background in the oult and because of my background in psychic work, they thought it good for me to do it for for the local um you know for sort of Africa. So um that evening I booked out a part of the satanic church. There's there's an area that was referred to as the the lower temple. So this was a part of the satanic church that was under under the parking area of the building. So it was really underground and it was a very dark um room that was used for rituals at the time. So I was by myself and I was preparing for the ritual. So I never actually got to do it. But in the preparation of it um and and like I said this this is a room that there was no other lights in it. So you had to light it up with candles or use torches um to light it up. So when I got round to lighting the second candle um of five candles that's in a circle um in preparation, this whole room actually lit up as if somebody was shining spotlights into the room. Wow. So I turned around and this man was there. He's he like in person like in in person not a vision in person man was there and I asked him who are you because obviously my my initial thought because of my background was that this is now a demon that's entering the space before I even started. He said to me and these were the only words that was spoken. He said to me, "I am Yeshua of Nazareth." And yeah, I know. Um I still like every time and I mean I I know people people even judged me like for for crying so much and but there's no other way. Like every time I think of that moment, I still get emotional till today. So I said to him, "I don't believe you. You're going to have to prove it then." And he flooded me with so much love. And you see, I recognized it from that woman at the radio station because she had Jesus inside her, you see. So I could recognize it as this. This is Jesus. This is really him. And it was so intense and powerful that I fell to my knees cuz every knee shall bow. And I was in his presence probably for two two to three minutes and he was gone. So that was it. And because I you see I was in a place in my life at that time where I was I was so happy I thought. So if you would ask me that time even a day before that encounter, are you happy? I would say yes because I have money and I have houses and I have two awesome Harley-Davidsons and I have cars and that was where I was and I had all the access to all the the I can't say the word on um the podcast but um the white type of powder drug that you can you know um so all of that stuff I had everything but I didn't realize that there was a Christsiz hole in my heart until that moment And that is when the other thing is the world went quiet like the sound of the outside world everything went quiet even on my way home like I I immediately stopped everything I was busy with and I drove home and I was exhausted like I was so drained that for for 4 days I stayed in bed I it was like I didn't have energy and then one morning at 3:00 in the morning God woke me up and told me, "Go to the beach." And I thought at the time, well, I'm already going insane, so I might as well take the scenic route. And I I went to the beach and I started having conversations with God about so many things. And I wrote all of those down. Um, it is in book format that's hopefully coming out later this year. So um over over months and months I had all these conversations and at the very same time the satanic church was trying to get hold of me to to get feedback on this ritual that I didn't do. So I had to go in and then resign from the satanic church and I also told him about what I encountered and I said there's no choice for me then but to follow Christ because Jesus is real. I didn't even believe that he was real until that meeting, that encounter. And I it it was almost like like I I I think I mentioned this in a previous episode that we did. So for for nine almost 10 months um I went through deliverance different deliverance sessions um where a lot of things became very clear to me. But it yeah, it it was just I mean I never knew God and I struggled with why did that happen and then God showed me thousands and thousands of Christians around the world were praying for you by your name because your face was so public. So it was an answer to prayer and cuz you also have to remember at that time of my life I didn't go to churches you know and I didn't seek cuz I didn't believe God existed. So I didn't go to churches. I didn't speak to Christians. The only way for God to reach me was that encounter. And I mean it it changed my life forever.
It's beautiful, man. And and then what? Because what I want to get into is I want to get into how do we defend? How do we defend against Clearly that's on my heart right now. I'm like, how do I defend right now? But I'm sure there was attack. I'm sure you experienced lots. Yeah. Take me into that. And then take me into your journey of learning on the other side. Now, now you've left the dark side. You've gone to the light side. Now what do you learn about how to defend? So what happened to you?
So um it was it was amazing how the people who facilitated um my deliverance came over my path. God literally sent them a few days after like I met in one of my walks on the beach um in my conversations. this person came across my way and said to me that he wants to help me and I mean it wasn't public knowledge yet. I had to keep this all quiet for a month so that the satanic church can prepare statements and all of that. That very first video I made that went viral around the world was just actually a video for me to say to the media, this is why I left Satanism and this is what happened and leave me alone because I was being harassed by the press and the media because they heard rumors that I left and and why, you know, they wanted to know. So, but the beautiful thing about that um and the way the story was covered, Jesus's name was on the front page of so many newspapers. Amen. Amen. That's amazing. But it was very tough. I'm I'm going to be very honest. It it was a very very difficult time. Um, especially that that first 10 11 months. Um, and Jesus kept on telling me that don't look at people's comments on Facebook, don't look at articles, just focus on me. So, I mean, since that day, it's it's been just over 3 years now. So since that day, I've with the exception of nine days, I've spent 3 to four hours every morning with God um in conversation, reading scripture, talking um getting to know the Holy Spirit's voice of conviction and um of discernment and all those things. So it was a schooling period for me especially that first year because um I also had so many legal battles from Satanists who I'm talking about 32 cease and desist um interdicts um gag orders that I shouldn't be able to disclose the identity of people and it's never been my heart to do that but um the first year was very much a legal thing And I eventually got a legal team to help me. And it basically came down to if this does go to court, they will have to show their faces, you know, to and there's no way they must come to the light. Yeah. And there's no way. And and also um I know we're going off topic, but um for a year I walked around with a firearm like on me. And one day God said to me, "You know what, Ron? If you are obedient, you will be safe." And it was it it was a really beautiful day because I went and I s I surrendered my my firearm to the police station and I stopped looking over my shoulder. So that was just over two years ago. And God has protected me, Ryan. like you have no idea. Um, and I feel completely safe and at peace and I know I'm covered and protected. Amen. Amen.
Well, even just for the listeners out there, let's continue to pray for Rion. Pray for even our family as you know this this second interview goes out. Um, and then Rion, I'd love for you to teach us how to pray, how to how to war. There's a few things I I'd like to get into. I'd like to get in really practical. I'd like to get into like everything you've learned. How do we cover our families? How do we cover our minds? And then why is why is media so important to the kingdom of darkness? Why is the devil in Hollywood? Take into how we break strongholds off of our lives. So that's like four things right there. Let's see where the Holy Spirit takes it. But I'd love to get really practical for the listener right here. How do we take our thoughts captive? How do we take control of our mind? How do we take authority and pull down demonic strongholds? You know, you said like like there's certain people that are lighting up that are uh uh the enemies of the kingdom of darkness that are advancing the kingdom of light. And so she said, "I'm probably lighting up like a Christmas tree right now with these interviews and and there's attacks." So for me personally, like I'm I'm legitimately very curious and need to know how do I protect my family who is clearly very attacked? How do I protect myself? How do I protect my mind, my sleep? What would you say to that?
Okay. Um, it is all about authority and claiming it and standing in it. That is that is first and foremost very important. So, also remember those very first things that happen, you know. So like the the um experiences with snakes and I know you haven't had it but but there's also things like um sometimes things are rattled in your home and there will be physical manifestations of things and those are all fear tactics. So that is that is not really attack yet. Okay. So those are just intimidation methods. And remember it's it's it's very much about um bells and whistles and the devil is a showman. The devil is and the devil corrupts certain things that God has created and imitates it and wants to play with your mind and wants to bring it to a place of fear. So the very first rule is not to be fearful and it is repeated in the Bible so many times that that phrase for a reason. So do not fear. It is so important when it comes to spiritual warfare. And like I said, the other thing is about the authority that we got from Jesus Christ and who we are in Christ to know that at all times because the enemy does not want us to know that. So something I want to to mention and and I know this this specific thing will answer um quite I think a few questions when it comes to spiritual warfare and it's in the Bible cuz all the answers believe it or not right is in the Bible right so when it comes to the enemy and attacks and attacks on our minds on our lives on how blessings that God wants for his children, all of it. Um, Paul speaks very clearly in Ephesians 6 about the armor of God. But you see here, I just want to point out a few things here. Um, if I can, and this is in Ephesians 6, it's from about verse 13 onwards, right? Um let me just open it actually because I want there's two words specifically here that I want to mention and it's it's there for a reason. So in the King James version Ephesians 6 verse 13 says wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God. So the word whole is of utmost importance. So what that means and this is how we we this is how we effectively fight against the enemy. Right? It doesn't say take onto some of the armor of God. It doesn't say take on the armor the word whole and in some translations it says the full armor. Yes. Okay. So when when my ministry partner and myself um and she's also spoken about this. So when we go and teach spiritual warfare at churches, people love to bring up yes but the armor of God and and they focus on the the helmet of you know salvation and the the the the breastplate um of righteousness and the belt of truth and the sword etc. So many people forget about the feet of the willingness to spread the gospel. Yeah. So if you do not do that, you do not have the full armor on. The enemy will attack you. So when the Holy Spirit tells you that person over there that needs to hear about Jesus and you do not listen, your armor is compromised and you are open for attacks. So I want to ask people and I ask this often when that you tell somebody about Jesus because brother or sister if you don't you do not have the full armor on or the whole armor and you are open for attacks. Chills. Wow. That's I've never thought of it that way. I've thought because a lot of people would be like, I'm just not an evangelist. Like that's just not my spiritual gift. I have the gift of hospitality, but I'm just not an evangelist. And it's like, no, no, no, no. That's not a spiritual gift. That's a command. That's that is that you're wearing. Wow. So most of most of the questions that that we we going to look at and most of the questions that people ask me, this is the answer. How do you effectively stand against the enemy? How do you stand against attacks? The full armor of God, the full and I'm going to say this again, not parts of it, right? Because people people think, oh, wow, you know, the helmet of salvation and the and it's also cool and it's powerful. Paul says specifically full and whole for a reason. It is written for a reason. So, do you understand what I'm saying? Yes. Cuz if you're going into battle and you're like, "Well, I don't need the sword. I don't need the breastplate. I don't need the helmet. I don't need the shoes." Like, literally, people who don't share the gospel are going into battle without shoes on. Yes. It's like what? So you are and you're gonna step you're gonna step you're gonna step on thorns and snakes and scorpions and what's going to happen? You're going to lose. You can't be in a battle. This is the other part. So imagine soldiers in in like let's say in today's time you in a battle. You're on the front line and then you are surprised when there's bullets been shot at you. It's like oh wow why is this happening? What? What's going on? It's like you're in a war, dude. Yes. Yes. Paul says, or what? Where? What's this scripture where he says and fiery trials come upon you as if something strange were happening to you. It's like, wow, this is so weird. Yes. Because because Ryan, the the more you read the word, the the more you grow closer to the to God, the the more you evangelize, the more you do what you are doing. And what I'm doing, we are moving to the front lines of the battle. So, I'm not surprised. Do you understand that that people get attacked when they're in that position because you're in the front line?
Now, now expose for me because you said something really interesting that they will like Satanists will do a survey of a city or a block or whatever. Yes. and people who are charging for the kingdom of God will light up. What does that mean?
So it's it's not just that, it's other things as well because remember it's about territory and domain in Satanism. That is the main thing. So they will scan areas to see um who is a real threat to what they're doing because they're also being taught the enemy storm because Yeah. because they're also under people that are not just like at a church that are just proclaiming, you know, the gospel on Sunday mornings. It's anybody that's going to go take enemy territory. Correct. Is that okay? So, so what they do is they scan and then they will see, okay, who is people that's a potential threat to our agenda? Okay. Number one, who is the Christians that have opened doors? cuz they they appear a different way in the astral. Who is people that's already under demonic influence because they're the most easy easiest to attack? And then lastly, who are the churches that are not completely covered?
You mentioned something about open doors. So that was one of my big questions because after our interview, our first interview talking about authority and standing in authority, like I thought I was doing that. I'm like for sure like like he like we stand in the blood of Christ. Like I was all fired up after our last interview like like standing in that that authority and and and and aware that I'm covered by the blood and not taking on fear. But then there was still attack that happened. So then like my mind went to oh open doors. There must have been open doors. What do you make of that?
Yeah, it could be, but I'm not saying it is. Um, but I'll explain how open doors work if if you want. Okay. Yes. Oh my gosh, I'd love that. Sure. So, if if we can picture our relationship with God as let's say we are sitting in a room where there's a fire going or there's there's eating, whatever. It's warm, it's cozy, it's beautiful. Um, it's safe, it's warm, and it's a cold winter's day outside. If I open a door, a window, whatever's going on outside of that room, I'm going to start feeling it will have an effect on the on the ambiance of the room I'm in. So now if we look at our relationship or our covenant that we have with God as that if I open a door to the to whatever else outside influence it will affect not everything outside will come in immediately but I will certainly feel something different in that room when I do that. So opening doors that compromises the covenant is it can be so many things but it's usually unrepented sin. So if you are walking around and the Holy Spirit has has convicted you of something and you go like oh but I'll deal with this later. I'm not ready now. That would be a form of like an open door. Um, another thing we have to realize is that when we say I give my heart to God or I give my heart to Jesus cuz a lot of Christians say that I have surrendered my heart to Jesus. Okay? So that means that your heart is supposed to be an instrument that doesn't belong to you anymore that now belongs to God and should be used for his kingdom. He will he will through his holy spirit work through your heart to reach people. That's what that means. When I have anything in my heart that prevents that from happening. So I have resentment or I'm judging other people or I have bitterness, unforgiveness. That means that your heart does not actually belong to God completely. And that is an open door massively. Do you understand? Well, yes. And that's why every day we have to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to us, is there anything I need to repent for, that is potentially a foothold for the enemy? And then the beautiful thing about that is though, if you have an open door like that, the moment you acknowledge it and you repent for it, God is faithful and it because of Jesus Christ, that door is then shut. the moment we repent for it and the familiar spirits and the enemy witness, we do that because then they can't use that against you. Then other types of open doors is hidden sin. So for instance, let's say you have a secret affair on your phone and you're hiding it. So therefore, you know, nobody knows about it. Maybe I'm not hurting anybody, but according to what God wants for us, that is wrong. The blood of Christ will never cover something that is meant to be uncovered. By the way, say that again. The blood of Christ, the blood of Jesus will not cover that that is meant to be uncovered. What does that mean? It means that so let's say you are a leader of a church. You're a shepherd. You have the blood of Jesus supposed to cover you and your congregation, but let's say that that that pastor or that leader h watches porn from time to time on his phone, but he hides it and nobody in his mind nobody knows about it. So, I'm not hurting anybody. But in fact, the covering of your congregation is compromised. your your covenant with God is compromised. It doesn't mean your salvation's compromised. We're talking about we're talking about spiritual covering, spiritual protection. No, your salvation is not compromised. No, of course not. But you you should actually repent for that sin and you should in your best attempt to not do that anymore. So I'm not saying that if you have sin you're not covered because we all have sin. We we all are sinners in need of Jesus every day. But I'm saying that doing something that you are not repenting for because there's shame and guilt around it, the devil, the enemy will use that will use that thing that you're hiding that you are actually shameful about against you and it will compromise your covering. And that's why I'm saying the blood of Jesus will never cover what is meant to be uncovered. Wow. Wow. Wow. So that's So if I'm hearing you right, open doors are if you're not saved or if you have Well, obviously. Yes. Right. Yeah. Um, it's unrepentant sin issues. Um, those were the two main things I I heard. Was it Were there a few more? So any involvement in oult activities. So if you like to have your astrology chart drawn up or you like to read your horoscope, you gamble, you play the lotto, you're gambling. Um, all of those things, those are open doors. What What about um, you know, I've seen a lot of people on Instagram talking about how alcohol is called spirits. is would you say drugs and alcohol for sure another open door? Yes. And especially the abuse of alcohol. So I'm not saying having a glass of wine um is a is an issue but if it is an issue for you and the Holy Spirit has specifically addressed it and you are sinning because you are drinking and when you drink then it is an open door. Got it. Got it. Got it. But then when you're getting drunk, then all of a sudden you're opening yourself up. No, you're massively opening yourself up to to the spirit world and what's happening um around you. And it will Why do you think there's so many um incidents of aggression and sexual immorality when people drink specifically? Demons. Yes. Wow. Wow. And was was the Church of Satan aware of this? Yes. And so what what would what would be their tactic to create more of these open doors? I think we can just look at the world. Got it. Yeah.
And okay, let's let's go even into content and media because one of my questions is it's so clear that Hollywood is demonic. It's so clear that the the content being put out is is causing people is causing the moral fracturing and the moral fraying of our society. Um, yes, tell me what you experienced as the head of the Church of Satan as it pertains to the demonic activity in Hollywood.
So with any business or organization or platform, the people who run it have authority on either side of the spectrum. So let's let's take an app. We'll start small, right? So let's say there's an app, a social media app. the the person who founded that app or people founded that app or the platform if the majority of those people are involved with the oult and Satanism that app will be used for that purpose. Mhm. Okay. And that's why it's so important for Christians to have content on social media because although we don't have the we don't necessarily have the the what is the word I'm looking for? It's not authority. There's another word. Um, so we don't have the authority over it but we have the authority in Christ to be visible there right and for the right people to find us. It's the same with other platforms like certain television stations with with Hollywood etc. If the majority of people who is in charge who have to main or have the the the final authority over something if the majority of those people are the involved in the oult and satanism that platform will be used for that purpose. Got it. Got it. Got it. That makes sense. Yeah. So, it's it's like we can we can actually take back what the enemy stolen and what the enemy uses by taking something like social media, which I would argue is inherently demonic in nature. It causes people compare themselves to one another. Comparison is the thief of joy. It causes people to stumble into lust. All these things. But it we are consuming Bible-based Christian content on that platform or even creating Bible-based Christian content on these platforms. We are actually taking back and reclaiming what the enemy has sold. Amen.
That is exactly it. And I always encourage Christians that that that is on social media. Testify as much as possible because by the blood of the lamb and the power of your testimony, you shall overcome the enemy. It's in Revelation 12:11. So even about small things, even if God did something small for you today, testify. No testimony is more important than the next one. And I and I I also I also say that with um when people, you know, come to me and they rave about my testimony and I say, "Yes, it is a but it it is Jesus." And it's a testimony to what God can do and where God can save and the type of person that God can save. But my testimony isn't more powerful than the next person. Every testimony is important. Every testimony has power. But you'll also notice that it's becoming more and more intense. So there was first a period of desensitizing, right? So if you look at the type of symbols and rituals that's now everywhere, um it was a progression to get it there. So there was first a desensitizing of the public. And this is part of that agenda that I spoke about earlier to make it acceptable to to make the devil seem appear like the the guy that's misunderstood and he's popular. And yeah, um symbols. There's so many loaded satanic symbols being used in TV shows and music videos at the moment. It is insane. And it's all charged um and activated with certain things. So when people look at it through the eye gates, they already being influenced by it. Wow. How so? How are they being influenced? But actually, because I would think that that would just be a scare tactic or just like trying to get our symbols out there. No, there's certain symbols that has a very powerful charge to it. So if you are not a Christian for in instance or again a Christian with compromised relationship in other words your yeah those symbols has a influence so those are loaded symbols they have certain incantations attached to them and it's being flashed subtly at and especially young people because young people are being targeted at the moment um that is that is being you know the recruitment drive for the last six years. Um, and these symbols are suddenly being put into things. And there's other things as well, but I'm just mentioning you you will see and notice a lot more of that now than let's say 5, six years ago because there was first this desensitizing and now it's open. Now it is in your face bluntly. Um, yeah. Wow.
So when when you like watch the Grammys and stuff and you're seeing these performances that are clearly demonic. Yeah. When you go to concerts and you're seeing this crazy stuff or even TV shows where these little subtle things that it's like, well, that was kind of weird. You're saying if you're not covered by the blood of Jesus that is impacting you, of course. Say more about that. Is that like a is that like a demon coming in through the screen through your eye?
It's it's a satanic suggestion. Okay. And if you are if you are at a concert in person where a satanic ritual is being performed on stage, you are part of that ritual. You are in a satanic ritual. Wow. And so what happens to you at that point? So there's demonic oppression immediately. So demons start having an effect on your spirit and on your soul. Wow.
And let's say someone watching this is like, "Okay, yeah, I went to a a concert that I probably shouldn't have been at. I watched a piece of content I probably shouldn't have watched. What now?"
You repent. You You bring it out. You discuss it with God. You repent and you asked for repentance. And great, that's really a step in the right direction. And then you just claim the blood of Jesus. You're covered in the blood of Jesus. You begin consuming the word of God. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Because remember agenda, right? Because because remember um and it it is in Romans 8 where where it says that um nothing can separate us from God. No structure, nothing in the sky, nothing on earth, nothing below when we are in Christ Jesus. So meaning that when we are in Christ Jesus, it means daily we seek that love and grace and if there's anything we need to repent for, we do that because that's how we guaranteed our sanctification. And do you understand what I'm saying? And that's that is how the enemy does not have an influence on us. But but to and and again this comes back to that thing of hidden sin and unrepentant things is that it is such good tools and ammo for the enemy. So, do you think, just think about this, okay? And this is something the Holy Spirit showed me two days ago. If Satan could convince a third of God's army to join him, to fall to earth, how many people do you think he can convince to go to hell with him? Yeah. You think of a third a third of the angels angels not humans about strong and there's angels if he could convince a lot according to the Bible. So it says what does it say like a 10,000 time 10,000 angels or something like that. So if he could if he could convince powerful beings to follow him to fall with him to earth, how many and how easy do you think it is for him to convince humans to or to entice humans um to to go to hell? Wow.
And what would you say are the main ways he's convincing people right now?
Temptation comes back to the same things we saw in the Garden of Eden. It's temptation. Remember that the the enemy um kills, steals, and destroys. That's that's his motives operandi. And he often imitates things that God created cuz he can't create anything new, right? So there's an imitation of certain things and but it's going to be temptation in all areas of your life. Got it. Got it. Okay.
So, so there are certain open doors, certain portals that can happen through unrepentant sin, through even accessing some of these things through concerts, media, where there's these suggestions that are out in the open. This is all part of the 9-year demonic agenda that's in play right now, specifically targeting children through the media and through other mediums as well. The Bible is clear. I want to ask you about this verse. The disciples come to Jesus and they say, "We couldn't cast out that demon." And he says, "This kind only by prayer and fasting." What is it about prayer and fasting that that can break strongholds?
You you have a physical body, right? And we also have spirit and soul. You move closer into the spirit by prayer and fasting because your awareness from the physical moves to your awareness of spiritual things and the authority we have in the spirit world. Got it? So, it's a it's a yielding, but it's also a movement towards the spirit of God and a a welcoming and saying, "I I want more of this. I don't want more of my flesh. I want more of what you have to give." Amen.
And and and and if everything if I'm tracking with everything you're saying, there are open doors of sin that cause the demons to flood in. And if we're going to drive them out, the opposite of entertaining sin is entertaining the spirit of God and the self-control and the the desire, the fruits of the spirit. The fruits of the spirit is the opposite. Say more about that. You should probably know what they are. No, no, no. But I I'm well aware, but I um I I'm more asking like what how does the fruit of the spirit combat the the demonic from from I guess from a a person who's been in that world for so long? Could you see that sort of thing in the spirit like, oh, this person's really operating in joy or peace or love or meekness?
Yes. Wow. More about that. Yes. So um when when you get to a certain level um of authority in Satanism, so you when you go through certain levels in Satanism and you become um what's the word? Skilled at seeing into the spirit world and
Seeing certain things, you become very aware of the actual reality of it. So initially, when you're in Satanism, you're not going to actually believe, um, like I said, in things like God and Jesus Christ, and, um, that Christians are actually on different levels. But the deeper you go into it, the more you evolve, you become more and more aware of it.
So people on that level that's involved with satanic witchcraft on that level, they can literally walk around and see who is Christian and not by just what is happening around them, what they carry. Um, which is that covering, obviously. But, um, so and that's why I'm saying you can actually see it on people. You, you can clearly, if you can see into the spirit world, you can actually see who is covered by the blood of Christ, who really has the Holy Spirit inside of them, or let's say that oil, that anointing. Because if you have the Holy Spirit inside of you, you are the anointed of God, and nothing sticks to oil, that you notice even in the physical world. So if something has oil on it, you can't put a label, or some stuff doesn't stick to it. It's the same in the spirit world. Demons and demonic suggestions and attacks do not stick to somebody that is anointed with the oil.
Wow. Wow. Wow. And does this correspond with, uh, Luke chapter 10, I believe, where Jesus is saying that like, keep oil in your lamps? There we go. The waiting of Christ. That is the deeper meaning of that. Wow. Wow. It's the intimacy. It's the, it's the, the work of the Holy Spirit. It's the union with Christ. And nothing's going to stick to oil. So, if the enemy fires his flaming arrows, they're just going to be extinguished or just bounce right off that oil. Amen. Amen. Wow.
But I'm, I'm hearing two things now. So, I'm hearing, and help me understand this. I'm hearing that nothing's going to stick to the oil, but I'm also hearing that there are specific targets, uh, for Christians that are charging the kingdom of darkness. Like you said, they light up as you scan, um, a block or a city. So, and then they're, they're going after those people. I would think the majority of times, the people who are really have the oil are the ones who are charging for the kingdom of God against the kingdom of darkness. So, is it true that you can both have it bounce off of you and be the prime target of Satan? Again, if we look at it from a warfare point of view, who is in the front lines? Who's the most visible in an army? Got it. But if you have the full armor of God and you're carrying the oil, the attacks will just bounce off. Of course, as it says in the word. Amen. Amen.
And did you fi, do you have like live data on this? Or I guess like past data on like, we tried to attack certain people? Like there was, you know, like last time we talked about the blue flame, the prayers of the moms. Yeah. So that's one, that's one example. Um, there was a, um, sorry, did you want to ask something else? No, no, no, keep going. So, um, there was a, a incident, and I, and I spoke about that the other day as well, and I remember this. This was about a year before I left Satanism. Um, on around an Easter holiday, um, we went up a mountain. So in Cape Town, there's a very well-known spot, um, called Table Mountain. So, um, about 20 of us went up to target a specific church that was below, in, in that was in clear vision of the landscape that we went up. And the reason we targeted this church was that, um, it was known that they're trying to do work among Satanists and and pull Satanists away from, you know, I want to say our church at the time. So the church I was involved with with Satanism. So we wanted to target this church and specifically because we also found out that the bishop that was running this church, um, had an issue or addiction with certain drugs. So we knew he was an open target. And so if we would target the church as a whole, it would be effective. So, as we were busy, um, and I'm, I'm not going to go into the details of rituals because I don't want to teach people how to become better Satanists, but, um, so as we went through the steps and eventually you, you release that attack, um, by looking at this specific place, it was blocked by another church very close to it, who was praying for the whole body of Christ. Obviously. Wow. So, chill, because the other church, um, who was praying probably for the, the area or the town, or was probably led by the Holy Spirit at that moment to do it, was standing in the gap for all churches.
And I find it very fascinating in my, in my journey in the last 3 years, um, being involved, you know, with this ministry, especially the last year, because I've spoken at so many churches, you have no idea, like hundreds. So, it's interesting when you encounter a church that's praying for the whole body of Christ around the world, as opposed to just for their church. And churches who are praying for unity in the body of Christ, because unity in the body of Christ is most attacked at the moment, and it's part of the satanic agenda to create disharmony and tear in the body of Christ. And and that's why we're seeing a lot of people going on YouTube and on all sorts of channels, Christians who build ministries on exposing other people, especially other Christians. That is it's part of the agenda that's playing out at the moment. Um, so, and and the, the current agenda that's kind of active or being pushed until 2027 before it gets reviewed again, um, has a point on it about Christianity and it and churches, and it says, "Divided, they will fall. United, they will stand, but divided, they will fall." Wow. So that, that division is, is that's been part of the satanic agenda all along. Wow. Because John 17, Jesus's prayer is, "I wish they would be one as we are one." Amen. Wow.
Dang, man. That's powerful. And what people, what people are not seeing at the moment as well, and I, I just want to spend one minute on this, is there's a, there's a target for 2027 about what's going to be known as a one-world religion, and it's, it's going to be part of what the UN wants to roll out. So there's going to be a summit, and you can look at this recording in 2027. What I'm saying now, there's going to be a summit on world religion, and they're going to get 20 representatives of each religion, of each world religion, to come together and say why their religion, what, firstly, what it stands for, and why it should be considered. From that 20 Christian leaders that's going to be summoned, not one of them will agree on what the true gospel of Jesus Christ is. Therefore, it will not be considered, 'cause they will say, "You can't even agree on what your religion is." So, Christianity will become illegal. It will become illegal to advertise, um, services on buildings. It will be illegal to preach the gospel in public. It will be illegal to pray in public because of that. And it's because of this division that is happening. And and Satanists who are pushing this satanic agenda are very much aware of this. Whoa. So wake up, church.
Let's rewind a little bit. That, that was crazy. So what you're telling me right now is this is in the playbooks right now. This is, this is the ball is rolling on this. Yes. Because remember, involved, the satanic church is involved. Because remember, just over 3 years ago, I was involved in Satanism. I was the leader of a satanic organization. I saw the satanic agenda with my own eyes. I was in meetings discussing the satanic agenda with other satanic organizations around the world. So every 9 years, it gets updated. So I'm just aware of the one that's being pushed now up to 2027. I don't know what the agenda is after that. But what I've seen with my own eyes and the, the online conferences that I've been in with other satanic leaders, this is what's going on at the moment. When I said I left, when I left Satanism, um, in May 2022, when I left Satanism, I said, and I have a recording of it, I said that in 2025, people will be arrested on the street for praying for other people. People will be prosecuted for being Christians in Europe. I said it because I saw it on the agenda. It, it wasn't a prophecy or that I saw the future. It was because I knew what was on the agenda. And people thought I was insane. So I'm saying today that in 2027, there's going to be a one-world religion that will be the acceptable and the only religion around the world that will be legal, and it's not going to be Christianity. Wow.
And you're saying that the UN is behind this, and the satanic church is behind this, and they are bringing 20 leaders from every religion together to convene and to say, "We're coming together." But Christianity will not be a part of it because those 20 leaders that together will not agree on what is really the gospel and what, which version of the Bible is the right one. All those, the things they are fighting about at the moment is what's going to happen there. And then they're going to say, "Well, you, you are the most divided religion in the world. You can't, we cannot accept this as a." So, whichever religion, and I have an idea, and because it's also not Satanism, but I have an idea which one it will be that that will say, "This is the religion, and this is what every leader in our religion agrees on is our dogma and our religion and our teachings." And, yeah. Which, do you mind sharing which one you think it is? It's Islam.
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And what will this one-world religion of Islam that will be brought in by the UN, like, what does that even mean? Like, how does that even function? It means, just, it means that no other religion would be recognized by laws, and every other religion but this one-world religion, um, will be allowed to be on a public platform and to advertise, um, their services or have buildings that on the outside it says it's this organization or a church. And the other thing is worldwide. I just have a hard time seeing like different countries agreeing to all this. Well, there's going to, there's going to be a one-world economy first, and they'll have to, otherwise. So, again, I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory, and I'm not saying 100% this will come to pass. I'm saying that is the agenda. And I'm also saying that if we, if we open our eyes and look what's going on around the world. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. So, what I'm hearing you say is this. This is written. You saw it. This, you're not prophesying. You are saying what you saw in plain ink. This is the agenda for 2027. Nobody would have believed that people would be arrested in 2025 from pray for praying for others on the street. But it's happening right now. Now, in Europe. In 2027, first, what needs to happen is there needs to be a one-world economy. Is that right? Yes. And then secondly, they're going to establish a one-world religion. And you believe that that's Islam. You're not saying this 100% will happen. You're saying this is the agenda they're pushing. And you're starting to see some of these things play out. Yes. Plus, I mean, if we look at Revelation about the persecution of Christians, everything that's happening in the world is biblical at the moment. Amen. Think about it. So if you don't believe me, read your Bible. Dang. And we do not know what persecution looks like yet. If you think we're being persecuted at the moment, you have no idea what's coming. And I'm sorry. Like, like I said, I, I don't want to sound like a doomsday prophet, but people need to wake up.
So, what can we do now other than pray? I think love one another is a good place to start. And remember, if we're fighting each other, we can't fight the enemy. Hello. [Music] Right. Yeah. Okay. So, unity in the body of Christ. Yes. I'm, that's my prayer every day, believe it or not. Literally every day I pray for that. Wow. Dang. Does this make you nervous that like, because because ultimately, like we, we're seeing the signs of the end times play out. I've heard prophecies on specific years, you know, like I've, I've heard some people say, like people that I really trust, people that, um, they would never on a public stage come out and say, "I heard the Lord say this year." But I have heard prominent leaders who are filled with the spirit that are getting the same time. Yeah. And what they say is, nobody knows the day or the hour. Nothing about the year. Yes. And so there are a lot of people that are saying it's happening soon. I'm getting chills thinking about it now. It's happening soon. Remember what I said last time? I said that, that, that Jesus isn't coming back. He's on his way. I said that. Yes. And Jesus is not coming as the savior. He's the savior at the moment. Yes, for, for everybody. But the day that, that day comes, and he's going to be followed with a big army from heaven, and his robe is going to be drenched in blood, and he's going to have a sword. He's not coming as the savior when that day comes. Conquering king. Wow.
Have you gotten similar things that, um, have you gotten any specific times? Like, obviously, we don't know the exact day or the hour, but so there's nothing specific. You've just felt in your spirit, and you're seeing it ramp up on the demonic, you're seeing it ramp up on the, you know, kingdom of light. And, and remember, the enemy and his minions, the demons, the devil, and the demons also know that the time is running out. They have a mission to accomplish. Why do you think there's more attacks now than ever before? Because they know the time is running out for them to accomplish their mission. M. And we're getting close because the Bible is very clear that there's only one thing that must take place before he comes back. You're going to see wars, rumors of wars. We're seeing it. Knowledge is going to increase like crazy. AI, I really want to talk to you about AI after this. But the one thing that must happen is every nation is going to hear the gospel of God. And right now, it's happening. It is happening. It is happening. We're so close. Yeah.
So my question to you is, how is the demonic, how is the satanic church and the satanic agenda using AI? What is their plan for AI? Um, deception and to lead people astray. Um, remember, there's also this mission for, um, two-thirds of Christians to denounce their faith. That's still going to happen publicly, where many people will denounce that they are Christian and that they believe in Jesus. And it's influenced by AI. About, I mean, AI gives people a version of certain things. So it gives you some truth, and then some lies. And that's the difference between deception and blatantly lying, because you're using, it's the devil. It's the oldest trick in the in in the devil's playbook. So we give you some truth, and in there, there's very important things that's not the truth. But the way it's structured is going to make you believe that this is facts. It's the oldest trick in the devil's playbook is deception. And the, the, the what they're going to do with AI, I mean, they're only starting now, um, is to make people say certain things, and people look at it, and they're impressionable. Again, the eye gates, right? And young people, especially young people, are addicted to screens. Mhm. Wow.
So you think that the way that two-thirds of the Christians denounce their faith will be because AI will be subtly making suggestions against that faith? It's already happening. Actually, proclaim. Do you think it's because I talk to ChatGPT all the time? I'm constantly asking ChatGPT how to make muffins or how to, whatever, you know. No problem. Do you think, but do you think that the proclamation, like how is that proclamation going to happen? So how many people do you think at the moment is asking AI questions about what, what is spiritual truths? Of, I'm sure a ton. Yeah. Wow. This is all happening very, very fast. Yeah. And like I said, I know we're going off topic a bit, but dude, this was, this, this, I didn't, I did not see this one coming. Um, but shoot, man, that's pretty heavy stuff. Um, so what is, what is your message then to the body of Christ if we're going to, in, because you, you were already dead on with 2025 that people would be arrested for praying. You're saying in 2027, there's going to be a one-world currency and there's going to be, or there probably, that's the agenda. Not you're saying there will be, but that's the agenda from the satanic church. One-world currency and one-world religion, which will likely be Islam. What do Christians do? So you said love one another, pray. Do we pray against that? Can there be an army of Christians praying against this from happening? So, so I would, I would suggest again that because the thing that stops this right, in all honesty and reality, is the body of Christ needs to be unified, united. Because if you can, if you can get a majority of those leaders that will be summoned to this one-world religion summit, um, that's going to happen in 2027, if, if you can get more than 10 of the, the, 'cause nobody knows now who those Christian leaders are, it's, they're literally going to pick at random around the world from each religion, 20 representatives, right? Um, so if you can get more than 10 of them to agree on what the foundation, the dogma, and the actual gospel is of the religion, then we are okay. But to be honest with you, in my opinion, we are not okay.
If I look at how, how would we be okay? Because we don't, we don't even want to be a part of that one world. No, we don't. We don't. But just for the right to be able to to preach the gospel publicly and to have platforms like this, because that will become illegal as well. So, so just to have the right to, to, to be represented and to have the right to still practice your religion, even if you are a minority, will depend on the amounts of people at the summit that will agree on what this religion is, meaning the religion they represent. So, what I'm saying to you is that the reason I feel we're not okay is you can go on any platform and see how many ministries are built on simply tearing other people down in Christianity. 100%. Dude, I, I. And you know, I'm a. You know what's interesting? I also struggled with that at a time, um, because a lot of people did it with to me as well. So, I literally had had people from all sorts of podcasts around the world making videos about me. And and thank God I didn't look at it at the time, 'cause I didn't know my identity in Christ like I do today. But, right, there was a specific verse, um, in Luke, um, five, that God gave me at that time, and it's about the, the temptation of Christ in the desert. And there's a, there, there's something I read about where Satan asked the, the Jesus, where Satan asked Jesus, "Is it not written?" So every time a Christian uses scripture against another Christian to attack, and to, you're using the Bible, you're using the word of God to attack, attack a fellow believer, you are actually a tool in the hand of the enemy. By doing that, you're creating division. Every time you, as a Christian, blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by calling the works of Jesus demonic, you are creating division. Amen. Amen.
If I were to play devil's advocate, I would want to say, "Well, aren't we supposed to call out false prophets?" Yes. And so I see a lot of, I see a lot of people online that are like, you know, like there's even a documentary coming out that these people reached out to me. They're like, "We want you to be a part of this." And I looked at their social media. I'm like, "This is pure division." Yeah. Yeah. He might be in sin, but you are literally building a following on tearing down other Christians. Correct. Some of whom I know and I know they're pure in heart, know they're legit, and drag them through the mud. Thank you. I, I, so I told them, heck no, that I want nothing to do with this. Absolutely. 'Cause that is what's happening at the moment, and it's part of that agenda. That is my point. Internally, it's happening more than from the outside. And, and, and Satanists and satanic leaders are very much aware of this. But coming back to it, yes, we're supposed to expose false teachings, but do people not have discernment? It's the Holy Spirit. Are we not supposed to look at anything as Christians and know whether that is truth or not? Why do you need somebody else to tell you who is a false prophet? Don't you have discernment of the Holy Spirit? And my next question is, if you are on this mission to expose certain people, how much have you prayed for them before you did that? Because if you haven't, you have no authority, number one, to do it, and number two, you are actually a tool in the hand of the enemy. Have you actually spoken to that person that you want to expose the way the Bible tells us we're supposed to go and talk to them before taking it to another? If you haven't, you are a tool in the hands of the enemy because you are not doing things then according to scripture. Then who's kingdom are you operating in? Amen. Amen, dude. Yeah. Gosh, if we just took the the plank out of our own eye first. Amen. And and they will know us by our love for each other. I think people so often misinterpret that verse. They go, "Oh, Christians, they, they'll know that you're my disciples by the way you love everyone." That's not what it says. So, he was talking to the disciples. Yes. He's talking to Christians. Talking to the early church. Yes. They out there will know me by your love for each other, church, by your unity. John 17. Amen. And, and we are just backbiting and cutting each other off at the legs. And we'll see the sin in our brother's eye. And we'll be. And here's the thing, like, as a social media influencer, I see this crap all the time, and it, it makes me furious. Yeah, it should, because people have no idea what they're doing. Because guess what? It will go viral. It will, it's going to go viral. It, it's, it's like, like a formula. Like I know if I talk about hell or porn or enews Christianity, it'll go viral. It won't. And so we have all these Christian content creators that are pimping out their ministry to virality. And they're doing it at the cost of what's going to bring the kingdom, which is unity. Man, me furious. I know. And I speak in all hypocrisy because I'm, I can be a viral chaser myself. So I know that's in my own heart. But when I see division in the body of Christ, and I'm like, dudes, we are literally, we are like writing the demonic playbook, our ministries. And that's the point. That is the point I'm trying to bring home here. And it is part of the satanic agenda for, for, um, what was the words, um, influential Christians that are being followed, whose faces are like, well-known, to do that to other Christian leaders. And second part, for Christian content creators to to become popular for doing that, because I can tell you, Yeah, there is, there's some of these content creators that their whole ministry is built on tearing other people of God down. Does that sound like Jesus to you? Does that sound like the word of work of God to you? No. And it, it doesn't. And as someone who has studied these algorithms in order to proclaim the word of God, trust me, I know it's, it's a much faster path to virality to tear. Thank you. It's a much. Thank you. There we go. And it's, it, I will see a lot of creators who will start out pure, and then they will see the views dipping, and then they just go, "Well, let's do some enmity stuff," or let's start scaring people by saying like, "Billions are going to hell." Like, "Don't scroll." And it's like this fear, it's totally, it's not from God. It's not from God at all. And that's why I'm saying what they're doing is, it's, it's in the name of Jesus, they are building a platform. And it's, it's why Jesus flipped the tables. Can I ask you something? Can I ask you, can I ask you something? Is that not using the Lord's name in vain? That's it. For your own vanity. That is the purest definition of using the Lord's name in vain. Thank you. I think people think using the Lord's name in vain is just saying, "Oh my God," but in a context that is, that is a micro example. It's using the Lord's name to, to, and again, I am probably speaking in all hypocrisy in many ways because this is probably in my heart. And so I just need to say that, like, there, there are definitely times and there is definitely something in me that wants more views because it's addicting. And I can use the Lord's name, and Lord, forgive me for this, like, I, like, I want it to be pure. So I, I say that to say, like, let me first spotlight myself. The sin is in me too. But I will see people that will build the foundation of their entire online presence around fear and around tearing down other people. And I'm sick of it. And, and we, we need, as an online creator community, we need to realize that there is billions of views. Like, this is not, this is like, we need to have like a book of James, like leaders will be judged more harshly. Yes. Because we're not, like, it, it's insane to think like, what, you know, just even this, this is not a brag, this is a, like, speaking with the fear of the Lord, over over 500 million video views will happen this year from from our ministry, from my online presence. That is scary in many, but it's great, it's great as well. Beautiful. Yeah. But I don't think that should be a person's drive necessarily to do it because you have brilliant content, and you're not the only person. Many other people have brilliant content. And the moment I get asked about things like followers, and I immediately say, "Please follow Jesus." I don't need you to follow me. Like, I do not actually care if one person follows me on social media, or 4,000, or 10,000, or a million. And when I was called into ministry, um, full-time ministry a year ago, I said, "God, if I ever become vain, or I'm not staying pure and at your feet, take me out of ministry." That, that was my declaration. And, and I'm not saying that as opposed to what you are saying. I'm just saying in this is what I did. So, um, I don't care, Ryan. Like, honestly, um, 'cause I've been also, I've been accused of it at one stage, like, "I'm doing it for followers," whatever. And I'm like, "No, like, I do not actually care." I've died to public opinion. I've met Jesus in person. That is what matters to me, and that is what I share with the world. So please follow Christ. That is my heart. And, and, and for people to actually know what is the reality of the spirit world, and why we need Jesus, and why we need our authority in Christ more than ever. Um, I mean, God done, that's there we go. Right. Right. Amen. Yeah. No, search me, oh God, and see if there's any hidden sin in me. You know, test me. It's like that, that prayer from David. Um, so I, I think you're right. Like, it's a beautiful thing. There's a lot of fruit, but like, at what cost, you know? Like, a lot of people, like, I remember starting this podcast. I was talking to a mentor of mine, and I was like, I, I thought about naming this podcast, "The Hidden Heroes of Faith," and going and finding hidden people, not the ones on platforms. And my, my mentor, very wise man of God, was like, "I can't support that." And I was like, "What?" I thought that would be the Christian thing. Like, we're not going to go out and get the most famous person. We're gonna get, you know, the people that, that stories aren't being told. And he goes, "Don't do it." He goes, "They're, because they won't be ready." Like, you're gonna, you're gonna platform people who aren't called to that, and whose character hasn't, hasn't, they haven't been tested to that point, their character. But they, they just all it can, can't. And, and I have, even there have been certain interviews that I've done on this podcast where it's like, "Oh, that's an amazing story." And now I have almost started to shy away from more the hidden people that, like, I'll just meet randomly, because I watch what some of the hate will do, and it'll tear them. Yes. And it is, and that's why, that's why Jesus told me that first year, "Do not look at comments. Focus on me." And I listened. And every time after it, when I picked up an iPad or something, he will be like, "Don't look." And I won't, until the day where I wasn't convicted or stopped or, um, got the discerning that, and then when I started looking, it was like, this doesn't matter, um, because, you know, because you know after a while, yeah. And when you get to a point where you know your identity in Christ, and that, that love that I've experienced of Jesus, it is stronger than any comment that people can make on a platform. It is stronger than anything people can ever say about me. Um, and I can say that from experiencing that love. It is the most important thing that, that has ever happened to me in my life. Um, and the rest is just what it is. It's all sprinkles after that, huh? Yeah.
I have to run in two minutes, though. Sorry. Okay. No, that's fine. Let's, let's, let's pray. Um, this was plenty, man. Holy smokes. I didn't see it going that fast. Yeah, me neither. But this is obviously where it was meant to go. Yes. All right, let's, let's seal this thing with a prayer. Um, if you, you guys watching as well, like, every, I think every single person watching this, let's pray for unity in the body of Christ right now. So, as we pray, would you guys pray alongside of us? Would you pray for protection over your family? Would you pray for protection over my family? You know, even as there's been attacks from our first interview, Rion, like, I would love protection for that. Let's pray for Rion, his ministry. Guys, go follow Rion. Go, um, go to his, what's, what's your website, Rion? If you, if you're a church and you, you want training for your church, where do they find you? So, we are at deliverance4me.org. So, the four is a, a number four. So it's deliverance and the number four me.org. That, that is our website. Awesome. And they can obviously find you on, on social media as well. Yes. Great. Okay. Let me start us. Rion, if you could close us in prayer. I know you have two minutes, or one minute probably now. So let me just, um, let me pray. If you, if you wouldn't mind closing us at the end. Oh, Holy Spirit, we just want more. We, more of the oil. Jesus. We claim the blood of Jesus over our families, over this podcast, over everything that was spoken, Lord. And God, we just want unity for the body. And so we pray right now in the name of Jesus for unity. Holy Spirit, we love you, Lord. Protect Rion, protect his ministry, protect the listener, protect Mike. Um, we just stand in the authority you've given us. Father God, we come to you in the mighty, mighty name of Jesus, the name above names, King of Kings. God, thank you for the presence of your Holy Spirit here. Lord God, we come tonight. We stand against every, every attack of the enemy. We stand against every satanic suggestion. We stand against the spirit of witchcraft. We stand against the spirit of religion, God. God, I just want to pray for Ryan and his family. I'm, I'm asking for complete covering in Jesus' name. Everybody that is also watching this episode, that they are covered. Every family that they represent, God, that you cover them in the mighty, mighty name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Amen. All right, man. Thank you so much for being with us. Really appreciate it. It was awesome. Thank you so much. All right. We'll chat later, bro. We'll have to. We got to stay in contact more. I'm gonna, I'm gonna ping you more often for prayer. Amen. All right, guys.