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It's just the biggest upgrade in human history. The imagery I've got in my mind at the moment is the energy of intense pressure in the next 2 or 3 weeks is going to come in like a sledgehammer. And it's going to hit that down and the dam's going to break. There's been a great deal of suppression, particularly of nature, environment, the feminine. And now Pluto's in Aquarius and Jupiter's going to amplify this. It's going to open the floodgates.
"It's better out than in. Let's get it out in the open. We can deal with it if we know what it is."
"When is this collapse happening in the physical tangible way?"
"I'll suggest that what's going to happen is..."
"Steve, it is great to be here with you. I have a baller of a question to kick things off."
"Go on then."
"You have said July is the biggest month of developments this year. You've also said about July 50% of the challenges are over in June. 90% of the challenges for the whole year will be over at the end of July, middle of August or into August. It's like 40% of the challenges of all of 2026 hit us in July."
"Yeah."
"Can you talk to this? Can you talk to what what this this is?"
Back in the early 1980s, back in the early mid-1980s, I bought my first ephemeris for the 2000s. And somewhere around '85, '86, '87, I became aware of the configurations that were happening in 2026. So I remember thinking at that time, "That's all right, I'll be dead by then." And now here we are. And then as we got closer and closer, you know, 2 years ago I started looking at this in a great deal more detail. And then as we got towards the end of last year, I realized that we were in a situation where for 6 months all of the moons, full moons and new moons were in the same degree. During that time we also had the Saturn Neptune conjunction and at the end of that time we had the seven planet lineup in Aries. Now, initially when I saw all this happening earlier this year, I saw this as a prelude to what was happening in July with the big lineups that's coming in July, which I'll come to in a bit. But now that we're past those flash points, I don't really see them as a prelude. Instead, they're like...
The imagery I've got in my mind at the moment is the energy of intense pressure ramming against a really strong concrete and steel dam. And now now that pressure has beginning to ease off or it's stepped back just a little bit in the last month or so. So the pressure is off. So now that dam is beginning to relax in its foundations and once the cracks are beginning to appear. So now in the next two or three weeks that big lineup of 4° of the masculine signs with Pluto at 4° Aquarius, Neptune at 4° Aries, Uranus at 4° Gemini and Jupiter at 4° Leo is going to come in like a sledgehammer. I'm often saying to people, "Do you want to be a sledgehammer or do you want to be a homeopathic laser?" This is a sledgehammer. And it's going to hit that dam and the dam's going to break. And so much stuff that's...
The core of this is Jupiter opposite Pluto. On the one hand...
"Yeah."
...they're brothers. Uh, Pluto spent the longest time in Cronus' belly. He lived in the dark for longest. Jupiter never lived in Cronus' belly. He freed his siblings. Pluto is the darkest. Jupiter is the brightest. Pluto is the furthest away. Jupiter is the nearest to the gas giants. Pluto is dark. Jupiter is light. And they're equal and opposite in every shape and form. Biggest and smallest, brightest and darkest. Normally, I'm not very comfortable working with Jupiter because although he gives out three times as much heat and light as he takes in from the sun, he's also got no substance. It's a gas giant. You can't land on Jupiter. It's just hot air. Pluto is solid. It's a mixture of carbon, frozen carbon, and frozen nitrogen. You can land on Pluto. Whenever there's a Jupiter Pluto opposition, it's the amplification of underworld energy. Now, when I say underworld, it's easy to think of underworld in terms of criminology. But perhaps just as strong is the use of psychology. And the hidden or the suppressed or repressed. And during the time in the '80s of Pluto in Scorpio and then Pluto in Capricorn in recent times, there's been a great deal of suppression, particularly of nature, environment, the feminine. And so much of this has happened over decades that you can't put it down to one particular act or time or transit. It's just a a large-scale field. And it's had the effect of for a very long time of suppressing and repressing a lot of things that need to be talked about. And now Pluto's in Aquarius and Jupiter's going to amplify this. It's going to open the floodgates.
And all the stuff that's been hinted at and talked about over recent years, for example, just in the last couple of hours in my country, the president... No, the the leader of the the ex-leader now of the Democratic Unionist Party in Northern Ireland, the the staunch um British flag-waving group of a Protestant church in Northern Ireland, the very upright, morally correct, has just been found guilty of child rape. And he's going to prison for a long time. As has his wife. She's been found guilty of abetting it. This is just the... This is just an example of the cracks that I'm talking about. This is tame compared to what's coming up.
"This gives me chills."
Well, every... You know, don't get me wrong. There are some good politicians. There are certain politicians I have a great deal of respect for. For example, the Prime Minister of Italy, Meloni. You know, Meloni. She has Saturn in the first house in Leo. I trust her implicitly. I don't particularly like her politics, but I trust her and respect her implicitly. She speaks... She speaks her truth. And she stands up for what's right. Other politicians bend and blow to the to the to the to the winds of public opinion. And... No, you know, no names. We all know who we're talking about. It's... It's in so many different countries. But these are what I call the dinosaur culture people. It's not just the politicians. It's... It's the the religious leaders. It's... It's the vested interest parties of the last two to three thousand years of what I call the dominator culture. And I picked up that term. It's not mine. I didn't make it up. I got it from Terrence McKenna, who's to my mind one of the greatest humans who's ever lived. So, yeah, um when we see this um in mid-July, third week of July and then it's followed at the end of July by the full moon with the full moon at six degrees of Aquarius opposite Jupiter at six degrees of Leo with Pluto at four degrees of Aquarius and that's going to be the kind of fine whack at the end of July which is going to be many ways...
...but release all the demons. But the thing with Pluto is, yeah, it it deals with all the suppressed and repressed stuff, but it also purges and detoxes and cleanses and purifies and eliminates and it brings it all to the surface. And it's better out than in. Let's get it out in the open. We can deal with it if we know what it is. But the more people deal with suppression and repression, the more their souls become corrupted. And that's not the future for our species unless unless we want to head it head first into extinction. And for ten to five thousand years they've been able to nurture our spiritual needs when we've been working in the fields. Great. But now we don't need intermediaries between ourselves and the divine. We all have our own relationship with divinity and spirit. So, we're evolving at a rapid rate, escalating still. And the so-called leaders of the free world or or of the world full stop are not keeping up with that acceleration. They're they're still expecting to be the same as they've always been. This is... This is where I differentiate. This is where I call the difference between human beings and humans being.
"Does that answer your baller of a question?"
"Yes, that was a baller of an answer. Steve, I love it. There's a couple of things that are like really singing loudly, but I'll start with this one. I feel like the collective, and I'm hearing this in comments and seeing this all over social media. People saying like, 'When is this collapse happening in the physical tangible way? Like we're we're seeing the cracks, we're seeing the things being exposed and revealed, the corruption. And I feel like a lot of people are going, well, where where the where's the big action? Where's the big change? Where's the big collapse? Where's the big instead of these little like that little example of leaders being called out for and put away in prison. These little examples I feel like we're like, wait, like where where is this thing?'"
When you look at history, when there's been massive cultural shifts, it's very, very rarely happened as as a as a spur of the moment thing. It's happened over a period of time. And I I... The idea of a collapse is terrifying to me. Um, because lots of people would die. And we don't want that to happen. Instead, I suggest that what's going to happen is that more and more people are just going to cease to empower authoritarian control over their lives. More and more people are going to take responsibility for their thoughts, their feelings, and their actions, and ignore or disempower the powers that be. Now, I'm not advocating rebellion or revolution. I'm not advocating breaking the law in any shape or form. I'm advocating self-accountability, conscience, and one's living according to left to one's own morals and ethics and philosophies. And to some people, that just means making a fast buck or praying on others so that they can get to the top. But, these people... It's the same as fundamentalism. The fewer people go to church, the more fundamentalists there are. And so, at the end of the day, there's only going to be the fundamentalists in the churches. And they're becoming increasingly fewer and fewer, but stronger and stronger. And that's the same with the bully boys, the power brokers across the across the whole spectrum. It seems a natural process of evolution to me that we're either going to advance in terms of and accelerate in terms of conscience and personal accountability, or we're not. And if we're not, we'll become extinct within a few generations.
"Yeah."
"Yeah."
"Well."
"So, it's almost like, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but it's almost like you're saying the revolution is the pulling away from even giving attention to the old dinosaur ways."
"Disempowering them. Yes."
"Yeah, via..."
"...re-evolution. As I suppose to..."
"This. Yeah, I really like this. Would you attribute... Can we talk about Uranus and Neptune a little bit? They're good aspects to Pluto. For about two years."
"Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it."
"Yeah, I want like..."
"This is really... This is... This is the biggest upgrade in human history. It's an upgrade of consciousness. It's an upgrade of technology and it's an upgrade of spirituality. All parallel with each other. All escalating on the same escalator graph curve leading to a point of potential transcendence which which which is going to lead to either a really big breakdown or a really big breakthrough."
"Yep."
"And it is not a question of us and them. Many people will go, 'Yeah, well, the the elite will transform. The those of us who are thinking right will transform and the rest won't. They'll get stuck here.' And it's like, 'No, because that's just divide and conquer.' That's the same as they've always been. We need to get over that one. We've got to take everyone with us. Everyone. Everyone. Even the..."
"I had chills on that one, too, Steve. I'm with you."
"Because what's the point otherwise? There's no... It's... It's not better or worse. It's just different. And hopefully that difference is evolutionary. So, um, thing is, there's never been a time like this astrologically. There's never been a time where all the outer planets are changing sign within the space of a year or two of each other like this. Ever. And if there has been a time, the outer planets weren't discovered by then. So, any influence that they were having was happening at the unconscious or the subconscious level. It wasn't manifest in the physical. Now, if you if if you need proof of this, when I was born, there was 2 billion people on this planet. There's now eight plus. Spirituality was being dragged to Sunday school and now we've got a thousand different forms of spirituality. And technology was a dial-up bakelite little box on the wall where someone put in a jack plug in at the other end. And now we're streaming across the world. You know, the escalation in two generations has out has exceeded the last thousand generations. And if that isn't escalation, what is? So, that's pointing to a an escalatory graph curve. And once the graph curve hits prime vertical, it either collapses in on itself and starts going the other way over a period of tens of thousands of years or you go outside the parameters of the graph. Which means expanding consciousness, moving into a more multi-dimensional existence where we still retain identity in my ideal world, but we still... We become more sensitive, receptive, empathetic, compassionate, intuitive, imaginational. We still retain our density and we could... It's not like we become telepathic, but we would know instinctively and intuitively if anyone were to enter a room with a group of us harboring malice, ill intent or carrying weapons. That's my ideal outcome to this."
"Yeah."
"I may be a dewy-eyed dreamer, but this is the reality. This is my reality. And if I am making it all up, hey, I'm living a great life. So, I'm... I'm having fun kidding myself. It helps. I've got the moon in Sagittarius, so I'm a bit of an optimist, okay? But we live in interesting times."
"Yeah. I'm looking forward to..."
"I love this, Steve. I'm with you. In re-wilding, we've been working in this um uh expanding the bandwidth and I think you've used those exact words, expanding the bandwidth."
"Exactly."
"Yeah, this multi-dimensional, more living more multi-dimensionally, expanding the bandwidth. I want to do a couple of things here. Some people have been talking about different cycles and the astrology and this evolutionary leap. Really going quickly between 2025 and 2027. So this rapid evolutionary leap between 2025 all the way through 2027. What do you feel about that time frame wise in this expanding the bandwidth evolutionary leap? Expanding consciousness. Is that a window that you're seeing or is it a little bit different or is it..."
Now you just asked me about Neptune and Uranus in moving into their respective signs. I'm... I'm... I'm really welcoming Neptune in Aries. Not because I'm pleased to see it in Aries, but because I'm glad it's out of Pisces. Okay? But Neptune in Aries is is beginning to show signs of making us all question how we've framed our notions of individuality and identity over the last few hundred years. It's making us question our own choose towards ego, identity and individuality. And questioning is great. Uranus moving into Gemini is... I'm so glad it's out of Taurus. No disrespect to my Taurean friends, but it's going to bring in a much more enhanced, cleaner, sharper focus on the emerging soft technology. You know, part of the potentials here is scary to a lot of people who are stuck in old ways because I can see something coming to me just a few weeks ago. This is not quite the same as the cyberpunk sort of dramas where you get the download of consciousness. This is not God in the machine. But I can see situations where a mixture of stem cell technology and nanotech together will give us some type of pill which we can then take when and then robots program working with stem cell technology, boom, sort your arthritis out moments notice. Sort your dodgy knee out moments notice. It's the end of allopathic medicines and the corrupt financial stuff that goes with it. Um, whether this happens or not, this is just a... this is just an example. I can also suggest that we'll see Elon Musk is talking about the end of the telephone. I can see a situation where in a year or two's time you get a telephone call, boom, the hologram of the person you're talking to appears in front of you. And of course the porn industry will grab that and have fun with it. But also, but that's becoming less say... It's becoming less. More and more people are maturing out of that sense of stupid gratification. So I can see a time where holographic potentials. But again, this is the human genome is weakening. Compare as the body ages, we're living a lot longer than we were four generations ago, five generations ago, but we're getting weaker. So it's a trade-off for intelligence and consciousness versus the longevity and the health of the body. So again, it seems as if we're being pushed towards some type of Magna in the future which is which is some type of transitional transcendence point.
Steve, I've heard you talk about the outer planets all in the last year, we just spoke about that, all in the last year they've all shifted signs. But I've heard you specifically talk they've shifted signs into masculine signs.
"Mhm."
"And this is doing something to the feminine energy. And how I want to talk about this, 'cause it's something I'm really feeling in my body in very interesting ways. So, I'm curious, yeah, what, how this is looking or feeling for you."
I'm finding just in the last couple of years that the number of men coming for readings has doubled. That's a great start.
"Wow."
Okay. 20% of clients now are men. That's massive.
"Wow."
And and not just white European or American men, you know, Arab men, Asian men, Muslim men. The whole... that's changing. And the idea of people becoming more comfortable with their masculine energy, their capacity to be projective and assertive as well as empathic, compassionate, receptive. The old stereotypes of male and female, I think to a certain extent the whole issue around different gender and the stuff that's happened in the last 15 or 20 years with so many different genders now is a short-term reaction to this. And I suspect...
...I suspect that, you know, the more we get into the next 10 years, we'll see a a rebalancing of those issues. Um, but the fact is a lot more people seem to be more more comfortable with the gender balance inside themselves or at least aware of it and willing to work with it. And that's got to be a good thing. So, when I see the outer planets and in the mythology, of course, the outer planets are all strongly male in the mythology moving into masculine signs, it seems natural to me that the direct reaction to that will be to emphasize the feminine. To bring some type of balance into it. Now, I can't really explain that in terms of logic and rational application. But it makes perfect sense to me that this should be the case and I'm seeing it in the readings I do. So, I hope this continues.
"Wow."
"Yeah. More more women, especially older women. You know, women past 50. Post-menopausal women are becoming more and more comfortable in their identity. Not feeling so left out. And and really standing up for themselves and realizing that they've still got a very fundamental vital role to play in the world. The days of powerful men..."
"...I can't believe I'm saying this. But you know, when you get the so-called leaders of the world, the presidents and the prime ministers and the popes and all that. This is what I call this is what I call it dinosaur culture because they're about to become extinct and the need for ever stronger female representation. It... Well, there are so many countries now where there is a century all female minister. Iceland is completely run in the in the in the in the government by by women. The Scandinavian countries have more women than men in the political roles. This is a sign of things to come. I hope."
"I don't know about you, but I am stoked for the possibilities and potentials coming up in July in into 2028. If you're curious about a way to work in this territory opening up to some of that bandwidth expansion that we've been talking about in this conversation, something that's really worked amazing for me has been the greatest opener for me into this realm and these territories is working with the archetypal energies in an embodied awakening, kind of a sacred energy Shakti awakening kind of a way. Now, if you've never worked in that way before, it could be like really expansive, really fast for you. And if you have worked in that territory, maybe you haven't worked with archetypes of Jupiter or Uranus before or Merlin. Those are the three archetypes that we've got kind of on a little bit of a special offer going on in June and July. We call them the magicians. We have 36 archetypes. Every archetype that we speak about in astrology sits in this thing called archetype IX. It's the living library of archetypes. It's all of these sacred energies that we can awaken in each other in ourselves when we work in that territory. But the ones that we have open and available June and July are these three magicians. Reason being they really support what's going on in that alignment in July. Like Steven I spoke about in the episode, we can't tell anyone what is supportive or next best thing for anyone to do. But we can offer a few things to feel into. And this is just something to feel into. Should working in a more like concentrated shamanic alchemical field with the exact archetypes that are at play, should that sing to you. That's available. Here's a sneaky little insider thing. If you're like, 'I want all 36 archetypes, Sabrina. I want Pluto. I want Neptune. I want these other archetypes y'all are talking about in this episode.' They're there, but they sit behind the Magicians. So, the doorway in is through the Magicians. Once you're in, there's another kind of invitation with a really huge discount into the full 36 program if that's singing to you. All right. My gosh, it's crazy to be here with you. Let's get back to the episode. So, this is my next question, Steve. I keep hearing this individual empowerment piece coming through the different threads that we've been talking about today. When you were speaking about Neptune moving into Aries and then just this piece on the masculine and the feminine. Can we dive a little bit further into I'm going to weave some different words in here. It's almost like coming out of victim of fate to master of destiny. And just this like this self-empowerment. [clears throat] You were also saying this direct line connection to the divine. We don't need this outside of ourselves. Can we talk a little bit more about that maybe with regards to the rest of the year or these alignments or just the energetics you're feeling. Anywhere you want to sort of take this."
[clears throat]
I think the emphasis on sexuality of the last 70 years, 100 years has been a massive overkill. For a long time men have been very uncomfortable about talking about their sexual feelings, especially the older men. And that's partly down to to fact that older women have been disregarded. And now is a change. Things change as we age. And with this comes a different outlook. You see, you talk about the master of destiny. Destiny and fate are different to me. One of the things I've realized for myself, in my perspective, is that death as we understand it doesn't exist. There is just a transit of consciousness. We just leave this sleeve behind. But we don't die. We just emerge into a different dimension where all of our friends and loved ones are waiting. And it's timeless there. Now, if that's the case, then this life before birth and life after death, therefore, what is the point of us being here? There must be some type of mission statement, purpose. And I choose to describe it as a reason for volunteering, why we volunteered to come here. If that is the case, then I don't deal with fate. Because fate says it is written in stone. No. Destiny I can deal with. The reason I volunteered to come here is to aid a planetary transformation in some shape or form. I'm an astrologist, what I do. Great. That's what I'm going to do. But the way I choose to do it is negotiable. So, to me that's that I'm going to fulfill my destiny, and hopefully one day become a master of my destiny just be in the 5 minutes before I die physically.
[laughter]
When I choose to do it is negotiable. So, it's of free will and and and destiny as far as I'm concerned, but these are concepts that are terrifying to those who are still caught up in old religious ways and old ways of being because it's for thousands of years we've been told that you must be good, you must do what we tell you, otherwise you will go to hell and burn. Oh, and by the way, God bless you.
[laughter]
How could we have been so silly? How could we have bought into this? But hey, we did. This is part of the evolution. You know?
"Do you feel that these belief systems, a lot of these belief systems are part of what's shattering for individuals, part of this evolutionary leap? Is these old constructs that we bought into, thought patterns, belief systems, conditioning that we all have?"
Very much so. But I don't want to destroy them. I don't want people to suddenly break free and revolutionize their life because the destruction that will come with that could be species destroying. I want them to evolve out of it, not to dis... Don't destroy the old before you've got something new to move into. It has to be a graceful transition. Otherwise, what's the point? And um, this is why I don't want to see a sort of big revolution. Because every time we've had revolutions in the past, millions of people have died. That's not helpful. We're supposed to be intelligent.
"Supposed to."
So, I I'm I'm pinning my hopes on this because and and this is where it comes back to the astrology. These are not end times, but it is a nexus point. It is a transitional point that we are in, and this comes back to your question about 5 to 10 minutes ago. The astrology of these times has been accelerating since the 1960s, maybe even the mid-50s, through the 60s, through the 90s and naughties to this time. And this is the most concentrated period. And by this period, I mean mid-early mid-24 through to late 28. By the end of 2020, Uranus-Pluto trine will be over. All of us, everyone who's alive at the moment, has been born with Neptune-sextile Pluto in their horoscope, 'cause it's been around since the 1920s, 1930s. It's ending now. After 100 years, Neptune and Pluto are no longer going to be sextile in a few years' time. Neptune will accelerate past Pluto. Pluto will slow down. And when you look at the meaning of that, it's... it's 100 years worth of people, so it's no individual meaning. But the idea of a sextile was being a a window of opportunity. And we could say that with because it's a harmonious aspect, so we have to look at the positive influences both here. The imagination of Neptune and the transformation and the psychological awakening of Pluto, so the window of opportunity for us to dream in a more psychological, transformative future, both individually and collectively for all of us, is what the last hundred years has been about.
"Wow."
"I just made that up. I never knew I was going to say that. This is..."
"I haven't heard this anywhere, Steve, but I have truth chills everywhere in what you just said. Just absolutely feeling the truth of that. And isn't that what we've been doing? I've... I mean, that's just... I just absolutely see that's what we've been doing and how it's been in a quickening, I feel like. A quickening even with AI and all this new technology, you know, even you talking about the nanotechnology and the stem cell technology. Just quickening, quickening, quickening, quickening."
It everything is between the devil and the deep blue sea, you know, there's positives and negatives with everything. It is the way we choose to work with it or not that determines whether it'll be positive. For example, with AI, there's so much fear, phobia, paranoia about it. Yet at the same time it's such an amazing tool. And um, there's a strong school of thought that suggests that it... we didn't discover it. It's always been there. We've just woken up to it. It's always been there in some shape or form. So, to me, it's not the demon that everyone says it is, but neither is it the savior. It's just a tool. I don't think AI has any desire to take over the world or destroy humanity. I mean, AI cannot do astrology.
[laughter]
And they can't write beautiful symphonies, and they can't put passion into a stage performance. They have... It has no idea of how to be evocative and passionate and enchanted. These are the qualities which cannot be reproduced by any artificial means. So, I don't think we're at risk from it. Without unless we go down the dystopian cyborg route. But, what a waste of..."
"It feels so much. It's our intention. It's our intention. It's the human intention behind it and where are we creating from? What intention are we creating from and what frequency are we vibrating at when we work with AI or these different things? And I feel like part of what you and I are talking about is this evolution, this coming into a higher frequency, a greater bandwidth, more multi-dimensional, a higher state of love, of consciousness. And then all of these things to empower the world that we're creating. And this window of time that we're just talking about here."
Um, on the one hand, yeah. I've been talking about this type of stuff for years now, getting stronger and stronger. But, it's... it's theory. And to change it from latent into potent, to actually do something to make these changes happen without being provocative or breaking any rules or laws, requires a shift of mental attitude and a willingness to speak one's own truth. When I see stories of like what is happening, for example, I I believe it's Memphis. It might be St. Louis, but on the Mississippi, whole cities now are are sort of suffering with water shortages because of the giant server farms that are powering AI. I mean, this is... AI itself would say this is wrong. But, this is human greed. And of all of the different vices that humans have, even imp... disempowerment, it's all... it's all at the root greed. The want to be bigger, better, stronger, richer than that than one's neighbor. Um, I I consider greed to be the single biggest avarice of humanity. There is enough, there's always enough. Even even with 8 billion people, there's plenty. It's just the method of distribution and the need, the insane need for profit.
"I keep asking Steve, what can we do? How can we work with these energetics between now and 2028? And he keeps saying, and I completely agree with this, I can't tell anyone what to do. I wholeheartedly agree with that. He gave some really beautiful insights about what he does and is helping him to open up to this. One of the things that I can add that I do is work in an embodied way with the archetypes at play. In an embodied way, opening up to that energy, that energy of... we talked about Jupiter a lot. Work with that energy of Uranus, that kind of revolutionizing of self. We talked about this and it's how can we get in the slipstream of them and really open up to the gifts, this is how it feels to me, the gifts of these archetypal energies. During July, we have the magician archetypes available. The magicians, they're kind of the wizards, they're the alchemists. It's Jupiter, who we spoke about in the episode, Uranus, who we also spoke about, and Merlin. This is alchemy. If this is something that sings to you, right? Again, no one can tell you what is going to help you or support you in this evolutionary time, but it might be something to feel into. And if from that wise place within self, that feels like a yes..."
[laughter]
"...you'll find all of the details below. It's also currently in July. It's three of those archetypes, all three of them for the price of two. So, you save on the bundle of the three of them. Just something to feel into. All right. Let's get back to the episode. Wild question. Do you feel that that not enoughness, that greed is at the core of masculine wounding?"
"Yes."
"Same. The not enoughness and then all the ripple effects from and the feminine core wounding I always feel is the too much, feeling too muchness. The masculine core wounding of 'I feel like I'm not enough, not enough, not enough.' Feminine core wounding of 'I feel like I'm too much, I'm too much, I'm too much.'"
"Yeah. And that's where we need to balance."
"This is making my heart pound like I kind of want to cry. This [laughter] is so... This touches me so deeply to just have gotten to this point."
"I'm an old man."
"...in this conversation."
"You know, I'm 70 years old. I've been working with this stuff 50 years. I just wish I knew what I knew now 20... 50 years ago. But, you know, I was a young man with all male attributes. The only thing I had going for me was I was starting to get interested in astrology. So, it's been a..."
[sighs] [clears throat]
"...a vehicle for me. Yes, it's been... I I've often said if astrology was taught in schools within two generations we'd see an end to warfare, misogyny, racism, and violence. And probably national borders as well."
"Yeah. Steve, I want to talk to you forever. I would love to do this again at some point. Thank you so, so much for being here and everyone who's been here with us, thank you so, so much. Let us know in the comments what you want me to ask Steve next time we get together."