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The Quant Historian: Quant Is Dying! This Is What’s Next

Aman Manazir1:16:54

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Tell me about a time you lost a horrifying amount of money. This model error actually propagated to every single team in the entire company and caused them to do bad trades. Within the space of about 50 milliseconds, we lost like half a million dollars. This is my second month on the job, by the way. And my boss was like, "What just happened?" And I'm like, "Uh, I don't know."

Most people hear quant and imagine the secret world. So, could you kind of like pull back the curtain here? Tell me like what quant companies have you had experience at and what is it like day-to-day to be a quant?

It's a secret world for a good reason. There's no open source in quant. Quant is fixed pie. Um, you're fighting for crumbs. Quant firms really like to stay secretive because they don't want their secret source to go. And you need to have a little understanding of microeconomics. You need to understand what could make markets inefficient and what you can do to provide a service for the market.

You actually told me that the upside isn't there like it used to be in quant. So what actually changed? OpenAI is harder to get a job at than HRT. Now if I was a college grad right now and I had a job from OpenAI and from like a top quant firm, I would definitely pick OpenAI. I had an interview for Anthropic when I was at university that I turned down cuz I'd never heard of them and I really wish I followed that a lot more.

If you were talking to someone who was 20 to 22 years old, what tactical advice would you give them to be able to try to make it in the new world?

So, I grew up in the UK. I had ambition but uh no path to ambition. Even I wasn't thinking about the Google L3 dream. So, think bigger than Google L3. Pick a problem that's like right on the frontiers of machine learning. I think if you have a basic understanding of LLMs, you should be able to solve this problem with four weeks of concerted effort.

What was the exact moment you went from I'm a quant making awesome money to I need to build something bigger than myself?

It's probably an welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me. You said that in the UK ambition exists but opportunity can feel constrained. So what's an example of where you dealt with that personally?

Yeah, I mean if if you guys like define what those words mean, right? Like ambition and opportunity. I think ambition is something that people are born with. I think it's like part of the human experience to want to go out and you know have like an impact on the world. Um the opportunity thing is just like you need to basically see other people who've done it. You need to see some kind of like concrete path um towards realizing that ambition right that that's like opportunity. So you know even for us um you know I I'm you know me my co-founder like a lot of my friends are very very ambitious but it wasn't until very recently um that we kind of saw a path towards realizing the ambition. you know, the the venture I'm working on right now. We didn't realize how big it could really get um until we kind of applied for venture funding. We didn't even know what venture was when we first started the the the the business. Um it was really through like YC, Y Combinator. Um they, you know, have like pretty good worldwide distribution and you know, I'd kind of heard of them through the entrepreneurship society at university back at Cambridge. And um that's where, you know, we we applied for funding. We still had like compared to now like very small scales uh ambitions for the the company. um what we thought at that time were large scale but it turns out you know we could go way way bigger and um that was like the unlock for us really is like moving to San Francisco and that's when we saw that you know there's like this huge um untapped potential that we have and our company has my idea has um that you just don't see if you don't if you're not surrounded by people who are are in that um that community basically.

So in the UK is it more about the people or the culture or a combination of both?

Yeah, it's it's a combination of both. I would definitely say that, you know, um if you look historically, we where does kind of elite British culture, let's say, come from? Um you know, in the UK, it's people don't have that shameless ambition. I feel people, especially here in New York, have um and and to a certain extent, San Francisco as well. Um British society is really kind of driven by this idealistic aristocracy, right? We have a king. Um we have the upper class. A lot of those times, you know, it's it's viewed as distasteful to try and go out there and make a lot of money or like build a big business. So that really affects kind of it has like a trickle down effect on like the rest of society as well. Um it's not viewed as tasteful to talk about ambition and stuff and you know that that's really pervasive and difficult to kind of dispel from British culture and has been there for a long time. And you know that if if you see that the British ideal is to kind of you know not necessarily go out there and be entrepreneurial and make an impact on the world but rather to just kind of follow like your destiny's path, right? Um it it it's not that people aren't ambitious. I would say it's just they don't realize there's a path to achieving their ambition. So it's definitely cultural. Um I think it has historic roots. Um, I think it's part of the nature of, you know, if you go out onto the street, how do people expect you to behave? It's like very pervasive, I think.

Um, I think people have an innate sense of ambition. I think everyone has that, um, worldwide. And I think it's really the culture they grow up in that that kind of stifles it or enables it to flourish.

Yeah. I've heard it said by other people who have made the switch from UK to US. Someone like me who's grown up in the US my whole life, I never really felt that difference. But a lot of these people say that in the UK if you just go around saying I want to make the next Facebook or the next Meta people are going to be like what what the hell's wrong with you like you're crazy like you're a little bit out there like a little bit weird right but in the US it's almost like lauded right like the the shameless like optimist the guy who's going to go there and like quoteunquote change the world it's almost like exciting right um failure isn't seen as like it's almost cool to fail in the US where it's maybe it's different in like UK Australia.

Yeah, absolutely that's why I love hanging out with Americans. You know, they don't they don't tell me we're going to fail all the time. Yeah. I mean, I've definitely experienced that. Like, you know, we're kind of building in the space of financial exchanges. Um, and you know, I'm pretty well connected now, I guess, to people who, you know, CEOs in the space. Um, you know, both like very big exchanges, new up andcoming exchanges, new technologies in in fintech. And, uh, with one notable exception, which was uh Tom, one of our partners at Y Combinator, um, who's British and made a British neo bank. um uniquely the experience from Europeans is like what are you doing like you know this is never going to work like why do you need to make a new like a very common thing they say is like why do you need to make um a new company to push this innovation you're trying to push why you know why why would one of the incumbents already do it and sometimes I look at them and I'm like you haven't innovated anything for 20 years right like um there's one very clear example I can think of where um you know there's a tiny confict change they could make that would everyone knows everyone in like the quant world knows their exchange would become 50 times more efficient and probably save investors like $100 million a year and they're just too afraid to make it cuz they're worried about the impact it would have on quy they don't they don't want change right and I think you know going back to is it the culture is the people I think one very unique thing about American culture is like people aren't afraid to tear things down and start new and um you know people kind of have hard code in their head that a lot of businesses have some kind of an expiry date and the best thing to do to innovate after that is to create a new business and start again from scratch people aren't afraid to start from scratch Um, in Europe it's, you know, all the way down to kind of like average working culture, people are afraid to, you know, leave their jobs, leave security behind. I think like, you know, if you ask what's number one mind share social problem in in the UK right now amongst young people, it's like how do we buy our first house? You know, these people are 23. They shouldn't be thinking about buying their first house, right? Like what can go wrong with their life, right? Like they can always move back in with their parents so they take a risk. But this is the number one people thing people are thinking about. And it's that kind of culture basically that it it kind of stifles opportunity. If you buy your first house age 23, you can't leave your job very easily. You know, you can't move halfway around the world very easily. You have to like sell your house. You're pretty locked in. Um, you know, you're always afraid of what happens if I get made redundant cuz I can't pay my mortgage. Um, it trickles down everywhere basically.

So, what was the exact moment you went from I'm a quant making awesome money to I need to build something bigger than myself?

Yeah, I think, you know, it was always there um in the back of my head. Um like I said, you know, I think people are born with ambition and um it's just takes culturally takes a little bit longer to realize in some places than others. I think for me there was a combination of things. Um I kind of knew logic like being a quant trains you to think very logically and very like probabistically about the world, right? So I knew um that you know it's probably better lifetime expected value to take a risk now rather than take a risk later. That's like a very mathematical way of thinking about it. Um, you know, looking at my own family, you know, I I'm I'm an immigrant. I was I was born in the UK. My parents came to the UK. Uh, you know, I saw the levels of risks they were taking kind of well into their 30s um to make those kind of decisions and I was like, you know, really should I be more risk averse than them kind of in my in my mid mid20ies? Probably not. Um, and then I think the tipping point was basically um I had a great idea that I really believed in. Um, I had uh that someone who I kind of knew in the back of my mind would always be an ideal co-founder. Um, he like quit his job. Uh, basically my my co-founder Josh from Citadel. Um, around the same time that I thought, you know, it'd be a good idea. I saw kind of more business friendly regime in the US. Um, we also got like accepted to YC pretty quickly. So, you know, we we weren't kind of languishing in kind of no man's land for like a long time. It was once you have that initial funding, it's pretty easy to make that decision, quit your job. Um, you know, in the back of my mind, I always knew there was a hedge and that, you know, in our industry, you know, there's very common to have 12 18month non-competes. I myself was on like a 12 month. I still am on my non-compete, actually, technically. Um, and so I always knew I could like go back into the industry if if things really didn't work out, but um, things took off and yeah, here we are.

Most people hear quant and imagine the secret world. So, could you kind of like pull back the curtain here? Tell me like what what quant companies have you have you had experience at? and also break down like what is it like dayto-day to be a quant?

Yeah. Uh it is a secret world, right? It's a secret world for a good reason. I think like we discussed this yesterday. I think um you know in the tech world there's a very different kind of growth mindset of you know um technology is constantly expanding like the the GDP of tech companies kind of going up and tech is improving people's lives and people are generally happy to contribute to you. Open source is like a thing in tech, right? Like there's no open source in quant. Quant is fixed pi. Um you're fighting for crumbs. The pi has been growing for the last four or five years. You know, more markets getting financialized. We're seeing prediction markets. Um we're seeing a bunch of other things kind of move into the financial sphere. Um that's pretty cool. But ultimately uh you know that that that growth could stop and then ultimately there is like a fixed amount of money you can extract from the market. That's that's basically what quants are trying to do. Um, in terms of peeling back the curtain, you know, so the quant firms really like to stay secretive because they don't want their secret source to go and a lot of these strategies are, you know, if if you you could have a guy, a junior quant within like a year and a half, two years pretty much understands the entire strategy end to end, takes it to a different company. Now, that company, let's say the strategy is making like $50 million a year. It's pretty reasonable for like a high frequency strategy. um if he runs the exact same replica. He or she runs the exact same replica at a different company, you know, they're getting half the trades, right? So they're going to ape into that fixed pie of P&L. That's a crucial thing. It's a fixed pie. That 50 becomes 25 for the existing company, 25 for the new company. That 25 that's just cause a loss of 25 million to the previous company. In terms of peeling it back, you know, I would say daytoday, um what you do is you you basically research inefficient. You need to have a little understanding of microeconomics. need to understand what could make markets inefficient and what you can do to provide a service for the market. And every quant strategy ultimately is providing some kind of service that pushes the market into a more efficient and lower transaction cost state. And that's that's the beauty of like modern financial markets is like you know everyone's just trying to make money for themselves but um the actions of people making money act as this like consensus layer to make the market more efficient. So without going into way too many specifics, very common type of um quant strategy is like market making, right? So um you know, you go out into the stock market, say you want to pick up 100 shares of Tesla. Um now, who is on the other side of that trade? Well, in the US, I can tell you there's a more than 50% chance of Citadel Securities or Hudson Raven trading, right? If you bought through Robin Hood, it's probably Sidol Securities. Um that is effectively a service. So you know serial security don't view it as like they're a service provider they're like a SAS right but ultimately by being on the other side of your trade they're providing the service of you getting liquidity that's one kind of quant strategy and I would say you know you ask me a high level question so I give a high level answer um the job of a quant is basically to figure out um what inefficiency or what service is being provided to the market and then use that to create models that can basically predict what the demand for these services would be or what ineffic efficiencies would be caused by the market and ultimately use that to predict prices and trade around those prices. So you know ultimately this information feeds down to a pricing layer where we say okay you know we think the price of Tesla is going to go up. So if somebody wants to sell Tesla say it's a market making strategy we're willing to buy at this price right and we want to get into this position because we think the price is going up. So you know like a very simplistic way of looking at it is just make a model predict prices buy when things are going up so when you think things are going down make money um but it's really deeper than that it's like you know the opportunities are arising due to some inefficiency and quants are really correcting inefficiencies in markets that's like the high level way of thinking about it.

Nice so let's actually define some terms before we go forward so just terms you threw out were like high frequency trading quant trading quant research market picking could you just like give like simplistic definitions for these terms before we go forward?

Sure. So um let's step back at a high level right like um ultimately uh aim of quants like I said is to use a knowledge of like why markets work to create models that predict where prices go. So generally if you have like a mathematical statistical model um it can predict short-term prices pretty well medium-term to shortterm you know if I if you ask me like what's the price of Tesla in 1 second I can't tell you off the top of my head but um if I was in front of my computer I have my model in front of me I could give like a pretty good shot like you know I I could tell you definitely more than 50% where it's going up or down and using some like metric of you know let's say squared loss which is you know like a a standard metric we use in stats to determine how wrong you are on like a a a price predicting a real number. You know, I can give you a pretty good um estimate of where I think the price of Tesla will be in 1 second. Now, if you say instead of 1 second, say 1 minute or 1 hour, 1 day, 1 year, the ability of the model to do that prediction just goes down and down. And high frequency trading, mid-frequency trading, long-term trading basically is like you need to tell the quant what time horizon they're trying to predict the model over, right? And the way we build models for very short time horizon signals, the things that kind of um explain um what's happening at those short horizons are very different to things that are long horizon. It's just like in computer science, right? Like a lot of your audience will be familiar with you know if you want to make a piece of code run really fast, right? Like um what's the first thing you look at? You probably look at you know is it doing any disio? Is there any network latency? And then you go into down the really small level detail. You start thinking about instruction pipelining. you start thinking about um you know cash hits like memory registers all this kind of stuff. So there's different scales of thinking and basically different firms specialize in different things. High frequency trading is like right at the short end. Um talking 1 second, 5-second, 30 secondond maybe models. Um, market making is a particular type of strategy within the realm of high frequency trading where um, basically instead of trying to predict where prices are and kind of finding people to trade against to act on those price predictions, you instead um, hold yourself out by giving offers or bids to other people and saying, "Hey, I'm willing to trade at these prices if you want to trade." And often you can basically get um, filled at better prices. is you can get trade at better prices than if you go out and seek liquidity in the market. So um yeah not all high frequency trading is market making but uh that's how high frequency trading started out. Uh market making actually orig you have these scenes of like traders like screaming at each other open outcry trading and high frequency trading was basically um when exchange released APIs and you know people learned what computers are the smartest of these pit traders basically made firms to do what they were doing in the pits automatically. So, um, yeah, what other terms were there? So, high frequency, mid-frequency, marketmaking.

I think those were the main ones.

Okay.

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Yeah. Let's talk about you mentioned just now how like back in the day it was people in the pits of Chicago yelling at phones and screaming at each other, right? Could you actually walk me through like a history of quant from the beginning to now?

Sure. There's a there's a a guy called Max Damer, by the way, and head uh he's a partner at Headlands, which is like one of the best high frequency and marketmaking firms out there in Chicago. He wrote like a cool PDF about this but you know uh so I I'll kind of go from him. So he said uh you know the first example of high trading was like uh there was some battle in medieval Europe and somebody sent a pigeon to go to the Dutch stock market and like informed them of the result of the battle and then they they trade on stocks based on that. So that's like really old. Um I think the modern you know trace of it is you know um basically markets originally began from like commodity markets mostly. Um, even here in the US, the first kind of large scale exchange was the Chicago Merchantile Exchange. Um, basically producing, you know, a venue for people to transact in, you know, wheat, corn, soy, um, lean hogs, cattle, like all this kind of stuff. Um, that's typical around the world. Um, most initial markets were, yeah, these, um, kind of commodity markets. um you basically had farmers come in and try and buy and sell their produce and then uh basically non-farmers would also come and try and make markets to these guys and and basically say you know like the job of market makers is really to match a buyer and a seller who might arrive at different points in time. So you know say somebody wants to buy a load of hogs and somebody wants to sell a load of hogs as a farmer who livestock farmer the market maker will like you know buy from the farmer and then find the seller. It's like it's like a make the market.

Exactly. Yeah. It's it's like a car dealership almost, right? They they hold these these stocks and they they take the risk that while they're holding the inventory that the price might move. Um and then the the first quants really were guys who realized that this kind of dealing could be done in an automated way. They basically automated a bunch of the tricks that these guys used to use. Um some of the intuitions they had. Um the first exchange actually in the world to release an API was life which was a stock exchange in London not a stock exchange a futures exchange in London and then CME came soon after Chicago merch stock exchange now the biggest exchange in the US and um that was really when programmers came into trading and then as programmers came in quant kind of stepped up when people were like hey you know these at the moment we're automating their intuition automating trader intuition Um, let's think about it from another perspective. Let's take the mathematician's perspective. You know, a lot of these kind of trader, you know, father to son, you know, usually men back in the day pass down generational hints of like how to do trading. They can actually be recast in a mathematical framework. And we can use modern statistical techniques to basically automate these things even more. And that's when you really saw um you know trading move away from just like you know what people have done for hundreds of years but just done by computers to now actually trying to make price predictions. And I think that's you know if you have to put the quant in trading I say the quant basically try and predict where prices move and not just um uh you know automate some intuitions and and things like that. So yeah, it's um I would say you know the first like firm that really tried to do this in like a big way um using a lot of stats was a tower the the last place I worked um they've been a firm since 1998 and they've had this kind of quant first data science first uh approach pretty much since since the beginning um and now I would say quant kind of languished a bit as an industry in the 2010s I'd say um you know there weren't that many big advances in kind of stats and machine learning and recently since about 2020 it's been undergoing a bit of a renaissance. So um you know had lots of mostly unlocked by advances in compute and um you know hardware advances. It's now possible to just build like way more sophisticated models because we can just throw more compute power, more training power and build models that aren't you know easy to train. You know, we hear about all these stories like you know Meta bought this like huge data farm, OpenAI is burning like I I don't know how many billion a year on like compute and inference and like if you ask Chad GBT like a one paragraph question it'll probably like you know use enough electricity to like power a house right so trading firms are also doing similar stuff but on a small small scale um so the models they're doing are like quite specialized just do like time series based machine learning they're not trying to build AGI but um yeah like since 2020 it's uh really exploded um the amount of stuff you're able to do and how accurately you're able to predict price moves. Um, that is like where we're at the modern frontier now. And that now it's a really exciting time because I think you know if if you haven't read Flash Boys it's if you go read Flash Boys it's it's like a book that kind of talks about more that programming side of quant when people realize that you know they're not necessarily doing a lot of stats and mathematics and machine learning but um more um you know trying to automate you know things moving fast moving information very quickly engineering very quickly um we've kind of moved away from that era where uh you know quan high frequency training market making all these words, right? They were just about speed and now it's more about really predicting where the market moves. Um, and yeah, that's that's the frontier. So, we've gone from like messenger pigeons to LMS basically.

So, could you actually walk me through before we go into where Quan is today and where you feel like it's going to go in the future, like what firms popped up at what time and were those big innovations like what were the first ones that showed up in the '9s and like 2000s, 2010s to now along that way?

Yeah, there's a great documentary you should watch called Flawed. Um, it is hilarious. It's about uh it's pretty old already, but it's basically films the old Chicago pit traders, the ones who basically I talked about the smart ones, right? I'm talking about like the not smart ones, the ones who are like these computers are a fad. They're never going to be able to do this. There's this great scene where like this old defunct really fat alcoholic pit trader goes into like a an office of a proto high frequency trading firm. I can't even remember the name of the They must have gone bankrupt. And he's like arguing with like the nerds like you know sitting in front of the computers. He's like, you know, the thing with a computer is it has no soul. Trading is honorable. You know, like open outcry is the most honorable form of trade. And look, those early firms were like exactly like those, right? Like it was basically some of the pit traders decided to innovate and some of them didn't. It's like every industry, the guys who innovate, you know, they they do well. The guys who don't who, you know, a little bit more ly neoly, they they don't do well. I would say um you know some of the earliest firms uh that you know we can still hear about today. Saskahana SIG was like um that they were like one of the first firms and you know they they had like a pips presence as well and they turned into kind of more of a electronic presence recently. Um Jump was also one of the first trading firms. They also kind of born out of the Chicago pits. Um and yeah, now they're like very very scientific, very electronic, one of the most tech- enabled firms actually out there. Those are kind of more on the Chicago side. um the kind of pit origin trading firms and then the other type of breed of quant trading firm I would say is like the you know Tower Research Capital, Hudson River Trading which actually you know a lot of the senior management the original founders were also from Tower back in the day. um those are more kind of came from that stats background right it's like the the founders were kind of like MIT Harvard grads um very very good at machine learning stats um interned under you know some of the leading academics you might know like lasso right like my old boss at tower um literally had like a research placement under Tibashani who' like discovered the lasso right like it's it's not that old of a technique so those kinds of firms are like a different breed and they're like a bit more recent um and Yeah, I mean both both firms do like very very well now and uh yeah along the way there's been like a whole host of firms who've like popped up and died. I would say you know of the well-known major firms that exist out there um there haven't been it's very hard to build a new trading firm actually nowadays um it's very infrastructure heavy and use like a lot of capital investment say there probably hasn't been a huge success story in trading in the kind of traditional you know futures equities trading world since about 2014 actually so um all the firms you hear about now they were all pre205 2014 I think Radex is like one of the they're in New York is w actually um they had uh they're probably the latest one I'd say. Another one firm called XDX Markets um which is British run by a billionaire called GKO. They're probably the most recent ones that have had any success and you know they're very machine learning focused. Um so they have you know they've developed their techniques with the knowledge of modern statistics in hand and they've been able to have a lot of success. I mean XTX is actually probably the most profitable firm in terms of profit per person. um they've had like a lot of success doing that. Um the one caveat I would say is uh with like crypto markets coming up as well recently, crypto markets are like very different structures. So there has been um kind of since 2020 a proliferation of new firms who are also doing very well um just in the crypto space. Um and yeah, they're almost all recent and they've just kind of been crypto focused from day one. And the best crypto firms tend to you the best firms in in crypto markets tend to be pretty recent as well. So yeah, it it reflects the realities of the situation, how much money was being made. You know, quant actually wasn't making a lot of money in the 2010s. I spoke to you about this yesterday, right? Like when I applied for my first quant job 2018, you know, I was walking around Cambridge, right? And people like, what industry you going to work in? And I was like, oh, you know, we like make these algorithms for trading. No one heard about it back then, right? Like you know, Jane Street, like if you Google Jane Street back then, you'd get their homepage and like maybe one FT article somewhere. And now everyone knows what Jane Street is. Um, so yeah, you know, uh, I would say most of the firms now, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s, um, there's been some like more crypto focused ones in 2020, 2021. Um, and that's that's pretty much it.

Yeah. When we spoke yesterday, you actually told me that the upside isn't there like it used to be in quant. So, what actually changed in the world or the market where that upside is no longer there?

Yeah, it's it's it's on two levels. I guess I said that. Um, so one is like on the firm level and one is on like the new joiner level, right? Like I think the new joiner one's a bit easier to talk about. It's like, you know, you go into an industry, if you're kind of hearing about it, everyone knows about the industry, you know, they're all over campus. It's it feels a lot to me that like, you know, quant and particularly software dovs at quant firms are kind of like what Google used to be like 15 years ago. That's what we said yesterday, right? Like um joining Google in 2010, everyone's like, what is this still pretty small?

It's like the cool new kid on the block, right? Whoa, what is this new quad thing? what was what is Google or Yeah.

Exactly. And you know like in in terms of like how much people being paid at Google, it was probably way higher back in the day than you know I think like usually what happens in these industries is like the grad offer goes up so they can attract like the best talent but like there's not that upside anymore and that that's what I was talking about yesterday is like where's the upside gone? You know I know some guys like OG guys from Google like way back in the day was working at Google like you know 2005 2010 um met them at YC some of them were group partners now you know the kind of numbers they were telling me they're like oh you know when I left to do my startup Google counter offered me uh like a seven figure pay packet right it was seven figures in 2010 right pre-inflation so it was actually worth a lot of money you know probably like you know adjusting for like salary and stuff like 3 4 million now how many guys at Google after a few years in the job are getting paid 3 4 million now right it's probably not that Yeah, the grant offer is still high and still looks pretty tempting, but um I think the same thing is going to happen to Quant, you know, like the firms have really um they've really maxed out a lot of the very high profitability strategies and that that happens everywhere, right? Like first you go for the fruit that you know everyone you know you can make a lot of money per person and now you see a lot of firms I think Citadel is Citadel Security is kind of leading the way on this. They're moving into a state where they're actually trying to take over the the business of banks, right? So serial securities in a lot of areas that were traditionally traded by banks and a lot of them you can't actually make masses of money per person. They are quite human labor centric. A lot of them have a large sales component. A lot of them involve knowing your counterparties. They're not fully electronic. There's like a human in the loop. So if you were joining a firm like that, don't get me wrong, Siok is still paying very well, but it's not the same upside as, you know, if you joined in 2007, right? And I think that's on the the people level. I think a lot of people, you know, and I'm hearing about this at Jane Street, by the way. A lot of people joining Jane Street in New York City, they're paying 450k a grad offer. That's I heard that a year ago. It might even be higher right now. Um what is that going to look like 5 years down the line? You know, is it going to look like, you know, 1 million, 2 million, or is it going to look like 20 million? you know cuz I think 10 years ago it actually could look like 20 million uh because that's the level the firm was operating at and that's the level of the people the firm was hiring. Um on the other level again I think you know uh on the firmwide level where the opportunity is I think you know that there is still like a lot of opportunity left in financial markets. I think my prediction is that quant firms will eventually take over the entire sales and trading divisions of like all the banks. I think banks don't want to do that kind of business anyway. There's too much regulatory um you know banks are too big to fail, right? So regulators really don't like it when they take prop risk or they take like you know outsized risk that isn't necessarily used to serve their clients and you know it's not their core strength anymore. Um so you know I I think quant as an industry still has like a long way to grow. I think it will take over a lot of business that you know banks have traditionally been doing. I still think there's a cap in that you know ultimately quant is not technology. you're ultimately all all strategies stem from serving a purpose to the market solving some inefficiency and as their models improve they're actually able to solve those efficiencies and still extract less money from the market right if you look at the total amount of money that could be made from like trading in general right like banks plus quantms whatever hedge funds you know pure adjust for inflation 10 years ago it was probably higher than it's being extracted right now because they were able to do they're able to just do it a lot more efficient ly now, right? Like the cost of making the markets more efficient is getting lower and lower because of new technologies and as a result there's no you the pie is not growing that fast, right? Like high frequency trading is an industry. If you take all the revenues that are coming added up, you know, quant trading, all the market making, all this stuff, it's maybe like a 6070 billion a year industry. You know, you look at Google, right? Like how big a company that is, the multipliers over there. It's just like much more room to grow. Um so yeah I think on the to sum up individual level definitely upside is not there like it used to be at all. It's becoming very much like tech now especially if you get a software job at a quant company. Um I think on the industry level you know we'll see an industry that is maturing consolidating growing but growing more slowly. Opportunities are kind of drying up. Ultimately it will kind of be you know they'll take over like financial market services in general. Um but it won't be like cool or sexy anymore. And I think, you know, I talk to recruiters at quant firms, right? Cuz I try and recruit some of these people for my own company. They're just smart. And they're like, "Oh, you know, we can't retain people. They're all going to open AI, right? Like HRT has a huge problem. Like half of its machine learning stuff left open. Even the HR stuff is leaving for OpenAI." So, um, that's that's normal, right? Like no one nothing lasts forever and ultimately the partners at these these firms, they want to make more money and not just more money per person. And as a result, there's always some kind of like consolidation.

Could you talk to me about what is a general principle here, right? Like what are signs of those industries that are in the early days and then how do they reach maturity? Like for example, we were talking about Google in like 2005 2010, right? That was still like the early days and now it's hit like full maturity, right? Like you don't see new grads at Google making millions within like 3 years, right? Like they used to maybe back in the day. Um and now like we're seeing that with quant. Like for example, there's a classic line which is when your shoe shunners telling you to buy Nvidia, you should probably sell, right? And now the fact that everybody knows about Quant, everybody's talking about Jane Street, Jump, Citadel, all these things, right? Like it's probably our peak or even slightly past peak. So what is the general timeline there? Then also like what do you think the next big thing is? Like what is what today is quant 5 to 10 years ago?

Yeah, it's uh it's a great question. Um you know, it's typical business cycle stuff. I think the signs to watch out for are whenever a new industry pops up, right? like you always get these like big believers um guys who typically come from academia um quant hires like you know I I think it was way harder for a new grad to get a job in quant 10 years ago than now right like even when I first I I got my first job like seven years ago now right like I think the guys who are joining now just have it easier right like um you know there there's now leak codes for quant right like people you know you know like the industry's got big enough that people like doing interview prep for this stuff.

Yeah, exactly. It's been more matured now so actual resources to prepare.

Yeah, yeah. I when I did my interviews, I didn't have to prepare at all cuz like there wasn't any preparation resources, right? Like I was just, you know, I studied math um at university and uh yeah, I was like, "How should I prepare the interview?" They were like, "Oh, you can't really like we design the interviews. You can't really prepare. Just like be good at math and like you know, I did a lot of like Olympads and stuff as well um in high school and I was I was pretty good at those so I I guess I had some time for it. But um yeah, I I guess the signs to watch out for, you know, um they're no longer hiring those S tier people. I think um you can definitely see a lot of the firms right now they've in order to scale the set you know most quant firms right now frankly are limited by talent right so they know where they can make more money but they just don't have warm bodies to fill the seats to operationalize that right to execute on those and um there comes a tempting point at some for everybody where they're like okay you know what like we don't really care um about keeping the profitability per person very high we just want to make more money right and uh That's when you start to relax hiring standards. You know, I'm not saying like I you start to be very smart to get an offer at James Street Tree, but maybe you don't have to be as smart as you have to be like 10 years ago, right? Um and I have enormous respect for people who like went through J Street that long. We just hired one actually recently um who interned at Jane Street in 2016, I guess. Super smart guy, right? Like um you that that's the first sign I think is like they start to not just aim for profitability per person, but overall profitability. um they relax hiring standards. Um they try and move into very sticky and very what's a good way.

To describe it? Very like administrative lines of business that are usually being done by, um, the incumbents in their industry that are trying to disrupt. So, in quant, this would be like, you know, Jane Street trying to do trades that are traditionally done by banks, right? And in finance, you know, usually you can pinpoint this to anything that needs like a huge balance sheet, right? Like, if you're a tiny high-frequency trading firm seated with $5 million capital, you're only going to do very high return on capital trades. If you're Jane Street and you have like, I don't know, how many tens of billions like in the bank, right? Jane Street are actually even selling bonds to raise more money to do a lot of these trades.

Um, that's kind of, you know, the traditional business that, yes, it makes like a lot of money, but you need to be at big scale to do. And it's usually the, you know, that's where they try and really like root out the current incumbents and become the new banks. So, um, overall, it's like an improvement in business, you know, like, uh, ultimately banks provide financial services by just throwing humans at the problem. And if Jane Street are able to do it with more technology and smarter guys and girls, um, fewer people, that's better for the industry, you know, the industry and financial markets overall because they're able to do it while extracting less money to pay salaries and bonuses and tech infrastructure and all this stuff.

Um, but that, that's always a sign, right? And all, all the signs are there right now that, you know, trading is this industry that has been disrupted. It's not ripe for disruption. It is undergoing disruption. And we see the same in tech. You know, we're going to see the same with cars, you know, cars and self-driving cars and like ride-share culture. We're going to see the same with, um, you know, future of work. I think to answer the, the next part of your question, like, what's the new cool thing? It seems like it's AI, right? Like, that's what everyone's going towards. Um, definitely has that barrier of like, you know, you have to be super smart to get into it. You know, certainly, I, I know quite a lot of people from HRT, um, who tried to get into OpenAI. Like, the very few smartest guys managed to do it. In some sense, like, OpenAI is harder to get a job at than HRT now, right? So, that's already a sign. And you're, people are saying like, "Oh, you know, why doesn't HRT, with all their machine learning talent, just get into trading?" And I think the answer to that is obvious. Like, trading is like a $50 billion a year industry, right? Like, it's not, they could tackle something huge like drug discovery and all this stuff and make way more money. So, I think that's the, the new thing. I think like, we, we're going to see more and more people work, um, in AI, in foundation learning, um, in, like, AI research, I think.

Um, and another very kind of interesting thing is like, when you have these new industries come up, right? Like, the first set of people they hire are always very research-driven. You know, Google joining in 2005, you know, you couldn't just be like, you know, a random like CS grad who like did some LeetCode, right? Like, you had to like have a fundamental understanding of like the structure of tech, the internet, and so on. Um, same with trading. You know, the, in, you know, if you joined trading a while ago, you, you had to come up with new strategies yourself. Now, you kind of go in and the strategy is pretty much set up. It's already making a lot of money. You know, you're just kind of fine-tuning things. You're not building things from, from scratch. And I think AI is heading in a similar place, right? Like, the people I know working at OpenAI in research roles, you know, they're really tackling fundamental problems head-on. And I think that's what excites the best people. Um, you know, the ability to kind of solve things from scratch. Um, that seems to be where the, the elite tier of the job market are going now. Um, and it wouldn't surprise me if, you know, Jane Street becomes more like a Google in 5 years' time, and, you know, Anthropic, OpenAI, whoever is next that may come up, is seen as like the, the elite jobs. And on comp, you know, they're, they're competing, right? Like, uh, the guy I know from, the guy in my mind, I know from Left, from HRT to OpenAI, he got a big pay increase to go to OpenAI. So, it's not, it's not even a money thing anymore. Um, you know, I think maybe 5 years ago, yeah, AI labs were fighting for talent and they were kind of using the, "Oh, but you're working on something cool," rather than, "We're going to pay you a lot." And now they're able to compete on all fronts. So, it's, it's like a no-brainer. Like, if I was a college grad right now, uh, and I had a job from OpenAI and from like a top quant firm, I would definitely pick OpenAI.

Sure. >> Yeah. It sounds like these industries, when they're in the early days, focus more on research and then they go, like, you start in the research and then you go more to like the operate, like you operate, right? So, like, I was just coming up with some like potential areas that are kind of in that research stage. I feel like robotics is still there right now. So, like robotics, it's not much operators. It's still research and like, it's still kind of like low-key. Like, you don't hear a lot of people who are like, "There's a LeetCode for robotics right now, right?" Um, but you like, some of the early people are like, "Oh, I'm like doing robotics research right now." It's still like very hush-hush. So, I feel like that's probably the thing that's going to be like, in 5, 10 years, is going to be those massive robotic companies who are like hiring new grads and doing all this whole thing again. Um, like AI research, like two, one, two years ago, even three years ago, was like massive. >> Robotics in space, I think, is also, is also pretty big. Um, yeah, like I can think of a few guys I know who are like pretty much early to everything and right on everything and, um, all those guys are actually working in robotics. They usually talk about >> I think it's robotics, dude. I think robotics is the next thing. Like robotics right now is like, you know, AI in like 2018, 2019, you know? >> Yeah, it's, it feels like the funny thing is, people have been talking about robotics for a long time. And I feel like the, the next level of unlock for robotics might actually be from from LLMs and like, you know, basically having the problem with robotics, there are just too many degrees of freedom when you come and try and program these things. There's too many things that can go wrong. Um, they're not kind of artificially intelligent, basically. And if you can kind of add in that foundation layer, um, of, you know, "Hey, you're a robot, and these are the primitives you have, this is how you can move," but what's going to determine, uh, those movements is actually foundationally an LLM, um, uh, which has, you know, is able of capable of ingesting, you know, three-dimensional input. You basically build something very close to a humanoid, right? Cuz LLMs, the way they're architected is very much modeled on how our brain works, how neurons work. And if the inputs are the same, um, there's no reason you can't kind of level up and go towards the next, you know, stage. At the moment, LLMs are still very constrained because it's a chat prompt, right? Like, people forget, like, ChatGPT is still like, it's like, it's like a blank screen with like a little, a little search bar in the middle. And it's already so powerful. Um, giving it that unlock, you know, um, you know, ability to interact with, you know, the world in a non-electronic, kind of, in a physical way, definitely seems like the next step. Next step towards Skynet, if anything else, if nothing else. Yeah, I, I, I think it's, it's very exciting. I, I can think of like a couple of companies I know who are kind of working on from a military hardware tech perspective, um, these, uh, autonomous like killer drone swarms, right? So, uh, and it's like a very similar thing. It's like, these, these, these drone swarms, basically, they have, you know, some GPS coordinates, they have some velocity vector, um, and they have like, uh, some, uh, GPS coordinates of some, some target enemy, right? But they're not programmed well, they're not flown by a human, and they're not programmed, you know, very explicitly. They're kind of, people are trying to feed that information to an LLM in somewhat real-time and getting it to infer what action it should take next. So, that's pretty cool. Um, I think the key blockers there are kind of speeding up inference time. Um, you know, this thing has to make decisions very fast. Uh, yeah. Uh, it doesn't seem like anything that needs a big step change, anything that's unsurmountable. It seems like as we progressively improve technology, you know, small changes, we can do inference faster. You know, um, new hardware come out that allow us to inference faster. Like, you know, Google has these TPUs they released. You know, people forget like, you know, all of machine learning right now is kind of built on CUDA, which is, uh, ultimately an NVIDIA architecture of machine learning. NVIDIA was originally making gaming chips, right? GPUs are originally meant for gaming. They just happen to be very good at matrix multiplication. So, they're very useful for machine learning, training, and inference. But, um, you know, we'll see unlocks on the hardware side that will enable all these things to go faster. And, yeah, the, the applications are endless, like robotics, space, and so on. I think that will be the next thing, maybe in 5, 10 years' time. >> Other than robotics, space, do you feel like crypto is one of these things, or is that more of like a different case? >> A bit, bit of a different case. I think, um, you know, the, the, the really interesting technology that I think that crypto is going to interface that we haven't mentioned, um, is emerging quantum technology. So, this is a subject very close to my heart. So, I, um, you know, I studied math, but mostly theoretical physics, actually, Cambridge. So, you know, Feynman stuff, right? Like, so, standard model, um, you know, how, how quantum field theory, things like that. And, uh, there was a brief fleeting moment where I, I had an offer, basically, to do a PhD in quantum computing. And I decided I'll try industry for a year and then see. And I, I never looked back, unfortunately. But, um, you know, I, I'm like a big believer in quantum technology. Some of the, actually, probably the smartest person I know in the world is, is currently working on that. He just left his job at Google Quantum to go, um, work at a, a hot new, um, quantum startup, deep tech startup. And I think there's going to be a lot of privacy, crypto-focused applications that are going to be unlocked in crypto from emergent quantum technologies. Um, now, the challenges on the, the, the quantum side are twofold. One is making a quantum computer, that's like, very, very difficult. It's a tough engineering feat. And also quantum algorithms. Um, quantum algorithms just haven't been studied that much. People might know about Shor's algorithm, right? Which is like, this is like one of the first ones we study. It's very simple to understand. It's basically, if you had a perfect quantum computer, you could break RSA encryption, um, which is like the basis for most of, you know, how your credit card information gets sent over the internet, for example. So, I think, you know, at the moment, what crypto is doing, and I kind of work in crypto, right? I kind of build in crypto. I think what crypto is doing is basically, um, going out and kind of, most applications of crypto right now are in fintech, and they're creating things, creating new, um, technologies, mostly by reinventing financial systems from scratch and doing it in an axiomatic way. And rather than doing it, kind of the old tech way, they've discovered new, new technologies and new things that should exist, right? Like, so the thing I'm building, for example, for exchanges, that's like a crypto technology. Stablecoins, for example, which is basically a new kind of payment rail. That's like the best way to think about it. That's a crypto technology. I think the applications of crypto have been very, uh, finance-focused right now, just because that's the nature of, kind of, the blockchain. I think we're going to see that explode once new possibilities come about due to new emerging technologies. Um, so, I, I don't know, unfortunately, what those, it's kind of easy to see with robotics what the use cases would be. Um, it's kind of harder to tell what the use cases would be in, you know, uh, of, like, you know, new, new, new crypto technologies. Where else can we apply blockchain other than finance? You know, some kind of digital personality? Is it going to apply to the metaverse? Um, you know, where is it going to be used? I think people in crypto, like, I, I know a lot of people in crypto, they're happy to just kind of build and hope that there's some kind of, you know, I was at a crypto conference, someone's like, "Oh, I'm building like LinkedIn but on-chain." And I'm like, "[laughter] like, why, why are you doing this?" He's like, "Oh, you know, like, I feel like in this like post-dystopian world, like, you, you want like, uh, some kind of centralized identity platform. You want it to be decentralized, like governments can't censor it." And I'm like, "Okay, yeah, could be. I guess." Um, you know, crypto venture is very easy to get, very easy to get venture money in crypto. So, I think a lot, a lot of projects being built there. But, yeah, it could be, man. It depends, depends where the world goes. I think, um, crypto is a very dystopian, you know, it's like everything the crypto industry tries to do is like block government censorship, you know, like, all, all this kind of stuff. Um, you protect your identity, keep you safe online in cyberspace. So, um, yeah, let's see where the world evolves to.

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Yeah. So, taking all of this here, like we've covered a lot of things, like different industries, like quant, AI, robotics, crypto. If you were talking to someone who was 20, 20 to 22 years old, right? They've studied maybe math, computer science at university, they're kind of, they're sitting there being like, "What the hell am I supposed to do at this point?" Right? Like, the whole idea of like the software engineering dream feels like it's gone now. These AI companies have crazy high bars. I don't know if I can get a role there. Right? So, what, what, what tactical advice would you give them to be a try to make it in the new world?

>> Yeah. Firstly, good that you study math and CS. It's very important. Great subjects. Obviously, I study math, but, um, that, that, that, that's the skill set you need to succeed in the modern world. I, I would just say think bigger, right? Like, um, biggest piece of advice myself I have for myself is like, you know, why, I feel like the, the, what I'm doing now, I really could have done even earlier, like two years earlier, three years earlier to what I'm doing now. When, you know, I grew up in the UK, right? So, I grew up in the UK, I had, uh, you know, I had ambition, but no past ambition. And even I wasn't thinking about the Google L3 dream, right? So, think bigger than Google L3, right? You're better than that. You, you know, if you're watching this, likely you're based in the US, you have more opportunity than I did. And even 10 years ago, I wasn't thinking about Google. So, like, don't, don't do that. You know, I, I would say tactically, I think, you know, a lot of opportunity is going to come from research-driven work. I think, as you said, a lot of these low-level jobs are going to go. You know, writing boilerplate code isn't cool anymore. It's not seen as like, "Oh, this is like a necessary training for a young software engineer." Like, you can get ChatGPT to do it. You can get Claude code to do it. It's, it's, it's not cool anymore. It's not important anymore. It's not relevant anymore. One, I would say, probably one of the biggest, one of the biggest like failings I had, which was kind of curtailed by, you know, the atmosphere at university and, and what my peers were like, was like, I didn't realize how easy it is to get stuck into frontier research once you have those fundamentals in place. And, you know, if you're graduating and you're in the US, and you know, you have, um, you, you have like a math and CS background, then it really is a lot easier than you think to basically pick a problem that's right on the frontiers of machine learning and all that. You, you, you can go online and find these people who, there's a lot of guys at DeepMind, Anthropic, OpenAI who just have personal websites who like, "Here's a problem I'm working on. I don't have time to do it at work. I think if you have a basic understanding of LLMs, you should be able to solve this problem with four weeks of concerted effort." Go out and find those problems. Go on Kaggle. Try and learn by doing, not just by academics. And I think that's a great thing that, you know, US universities really focus is like project-based learning. At Cambridge, like, we just had four exams at the end of the year. Like, you, you didn't really have to do any, any work other than that. Um, and try and align yourself with some frontier research. You don't have to do a PhD anymore to do research. And, um, most of the cool research is actually being done, um, in the industry right now, not in academia. So, I would basically go out, go out and do that. Find some projects to do, things, things that interest you, right? Like, don't do anything that doesn't interest you. And try and really understand, if you are interested in, in kind of frontier AI and machine learning research, try and really understand what a lot of these models are doing. And that kind of knowledge is the only job that really seems like idiot-proofly like resistant to being taken over by AI. Um, and, you know, that and entrepreneurship, I guess, you know, taking risks that, you know, I, I think about everything as a trader. And in trading, you know, you're basically taught that most trades are just kind of a risk premium game, which basically means that most of the time, the reason you're making money in the market is like, you're taking some risk that another person doesn't want to take. And taking risk is still like a valid way to make money. But I wouldn't recommend that to a 20-year-old. I think it's, it's good to have some industry experience before you go out and set up your first company. That's something you want to do, um, a few years down the line.

Nice. Let's talk about some crazy stories from the last few years. So, tell me about a time you lost a horrifying amount of money and what happened and what, what did that day reveal to you?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, I can talk about this. In my first job, I guess I was working at like a Dutch HFT firm in, in, in Amsterdam. And, uh, you know, uh, we, uh, we, uh, it wasn't, um, it's, it's easier to lose a horrifying amount of money, I'll say, if you have like a thesis that turns out to be wrong, than just a mistake. So, basically, we had some edge case in one of the formulas in our models that basically quoted FX. And the bad thing about this was, we were actually quoting an internal market for these FX pairs to the rest of the company. So, basically, um, the company needed to trade for an exchange to hedge some of its risk. And each team needed to trade its risk somewhat differently. And there was a bright idea in the company that like, they should actually, instead of trading this with other counterparties, they should trade it internally with my team. And then my team can go out and like trade externally if we need to, right? And that should basically have like a saving, um, because we can give them better pricing than they can get externally because we're not trying to make money off them. So, this model error actually propagated to every single team in the entire company and caused them to do bad trades. And within the space of about 50 milliseconds, uh, we lost like half a million dollars, uh, basically. And, um, we used to have like monitoring shifts. So, like, you know, everyone was like a quant and would work on like quant things, but one person would be like, you know, "Hey, keep an eye on like, you know, make sure nothing blows up." And I was just there. And I remember typing in my Jupyter notebook, looking up and thinking, "Oh." And my boss was like, "What just happened?" And I'm like, "Uh, I don't." So, I turned everything off. And that, um, also wasn't great, cuz now we had like a huge FX risk, um, because everyone else in the team had, everyone else in the company to trade with us. So, we needed to like hedge this FX risk. So, my boss was like, "Uh, just turn these models back on so they'll start hedging." But they also had a bug, which is like a separate bug. So, then it lost like another 50k. I was like, "Oh, man." Um, so, yeah, that wasn't a good day. Um, yeah, we, we were just like, I, I think that company's motto was like, "Really move fast and break things." Uh, you know, doesn't always work well in finance. Um, I mean, it, it's hard to see how much money you are making because you move fast or some other things, but like, that day, we definitely like lost money because of something that just hadn't been checked properly. So, lesson was, yeah, check everything properly. We built some like formal verifiers, um, that basically made sure that all the, all the stuff was working well and, and trading well. So, that was like a, I, so, bear in mind, this was my second month on the job, by the way.

>> Yeah. What was the conversation after that happened with your manager? Was it just totally fine, no problem, or?

Yeah, I mean, it wasn't my fault, I guess. So, it, it was like a, a bug in one of the models that had been written like, um, a while ago. And it was just some extreme edge case. It basically, it would, it was only a bug if, um, certain, if you could like buy, um, uh, it was like a triangle bug, right? So, I can explain it very simply. It was like, you can trade Euros against Dollars, Pounds against Dollars, um, and Euros against Pounds, right? It's just like a triangle. And, um, basically, generally, you should not be able to easily make money by trading this triangle because the market is efficient and these are some of the most efficient liquid pairs in the world, right? Like, imagine if you could go on Robinhood and just like tap like, "Okay, buy Euro Dollar, uh, buy, sell Euro Pound," and then I guess you sold dollars, you need to buy dollars again. So, you sell Pound Dollar again, and you just make money out of that, like an infinite money glitch. It wouldn't happen, right? Um, so somehow this has happened in the most liquid market in the world, and that hit like an edge case in the model. And, yeah, people were pissed. So, [laughter] um, so I guess I was like protected because I was quite junior. But, um, that's when I realized like, people's mood changes very quickly. And, you know, that was like a new team at the time. We weren't doing super well. I think we were probably making like, you know, we just set up a few months ago and we were probably making like five, yeah, five a year, something like $5 million a year. So, losing half a million a day was like tough. Yeah, for sure. Months' worth of work, basically.

>> So, you went from quant to YC. So, tell me about that transition.

>> Yeah. Uh, it was, like I said, you know, very, very different. I think, um, we discussed again previously, but the, basically, the, the mindset you're in as a quant is very like fixed pie. Everyone's out to get me. Keep my ideas close and secret. Don't tell anyone about my business. You know, be very tight-lipped around my friends, you know, all this kind of stuff. And then moving into building, you know, a product-based startup, which is basically what we have now, very, very different way of thinking about things. You know, you want to go and tell people your thing, otherwise they're not going to use it, right? Like, you have to go and market. Just seeing like how developers work, I guess, I'd never worked very closely with developers before, because quants just kind of work themselves, and then the infrastructure work, we kind of hand off to the developers. You know, seeing how much open source and stuff we were using, I think that was very different. And it's, it's very counterintuitive for a quant to end up doing a startup because a lot of the things that you're kind of taught about business just don't apply in like the product-based startup, high-growth, venture-backed company world. Um, things around like competition, for example, right? Like, competition is always bad in trading. Like, if you're doing a startup, competition is usually a good thing because what competition does is, one, co-marketing, because now you have other people marketing your new thing. As long as you're building something genuinely new that's not been done before. If you're just trying to like ape an existing company, you're, you're going to fail anyway. If you're building something new, you need to kind of tell people about it and tell people like, "Hey, you know, we have this thing which is better." If you have a competitor, they're doing half the marketing for you, right? If you have a competitor, they're validating whether your idea even works or not, right? Like, we could, when we started our company, we had no competitors, right? So, we had no idea if we'd have any users. When we got our first competitors, we were like, "Huh, okay, let's see how this plays out." And now our competitors, I mean, they've launched a little bit earlier than us. They're doing pretty well. So, like, okay, there's probably a market for this, which hasn't been explored before. We started about eight months before this competitor started to validate that our market even existed. So, we have a big head start on anyone else. So, you know, approaches around how you think about, you know, dealing with competitors, talking to competitors. You know, I'm, I'm in group chats with a lot of people who are just building direct competitors to me, right? And we, we talk about strategy all the time. Um, I think that's pretty key. Um, kind of learning how to present and differentiate yourself. Your quants historically don't have the best soft skills. We don't get hired for our soft skills, but so developing those, flexing those muscles has been very important as well. And, you know, YC is a great place to learn all those things. I think YC, by far, the most helpful VC on a cap table. A lot of people complain like, "Oh, you know, YC is not selective anymore. YC takes a big percentage in your company if not that much return." I think, you know, in terms of return on capital, YC is given the most return out of any VC, we had by a mile. The whole thing about being selective, it's like, I, I think people start to think of it like, you know, college applications, you know, like, you know, I went to Cambridge, I, you know, uh, it's more prestigious. It's not about a prestige thing, right? Like, if you're trying to build a business, no one really cares about prestige. If you go to YC's website, right? Like, you look at the top 100 companies, you probably only heard of like 20 of them, right? The other 80 companies are still unicorns, right? They're still, still doing pretty well. That's not a bad outcome. Um, the reason they're unicorns, they built a product that people want and people use and people are willing to pay for and people are trying to rip out of their hands, right? That's nothing really to do with prestige. And like, no one is using or not using a company because they did or didn't do YC, right? And, um, I, I think people who kind of say, "Oh, you know, YC is not a selector anymore," kind of missing the point. They're kind of thinking very much from like the employee wage slave, you know, which college you go to approach. It's not college, right? It's, uh, it's basically an advisory firm and who happens to cut you a $500k check. That's how I view it. And like, a lot of things in life, the amount you get out of it is the amount you put in. Like, we worked very hard during YC, me and my co-founder worked 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, and our partners respected us for that, and we got a lot of help from them. And people who, I'd say, one criticism of YC is they have started to take people very young now. I think that's always been their motto, and a lot of those people, I feel, are still a bit too immature to run a company. But, um, it, it doesn't have to be you, right? And for, for us, YC was an incredible experience, by far, hands down, the most helpful people we've ever worked with, and continues to be helpful for us.

All right. So, yeah, you mentioned this thing about the prestige. I feel like I've been seeing a prestige trap because with the university mindset versus like the business mindset, it's actually very different. So, >> I was noticing I had a few friends who actually got into medical school lately, which is a massive achievement. The whole Brown community is celebrating them. Super happy, right? Um, they have a white coat ceremony. The whole idea of the white coat ceremony is you sit there, like former doctors put the white coat on you, everybody cheers, everybody celebrates, right? And I was thinking to myself, like, there's no white coat ceremony if you exit for like $50 million, you know, or if you sell your company, get like a $100 million check. >> I would even turn it the other way around, right? Like, when you're like helping a patient, right? And you know they're, they're, you know, my parents are doctors, by the way, right? So, they, they go and do this like, all the time. Like, when, like, someone's dying in front of you, or someone's like lost a loved one, or whatever, and you're consoling them, right? Like, there's no white coat ceremony for that. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like, ultimately, it's not a prestige job because ultimately, it's, it's, it's you're measured by the quality of your work, right? And I think people who kind of think about YC is like, "How prestigious is YC really?" are missing the point, right? Like, the whole point of doing a startup and building a business, those first few years aren't prestigious. When we started, me and my co-founder, in our apartment, like, in my apartment, his apartment, just sat next to each other coding for 14 hours a day, right? It wasn't prestigious. We would, we would go, we would try and get calls, we would try and get a business bank account set up, and nobody would speak to us because we had no money. We had no backers, right? And a huge part of a test for you, basically, if you're, you know, are you cut out to start a new business, is like, are you willing to potentially be totally anonymous, and, you know, your parents can't brag about you? You, you know, at like, a party, like, no one knows you work for all this stuff. Are you willing to be totally anonymous for 3 years? And I think in the US, with the amount of venture money that's proliferating around, like, a lot of those things have been de-risked. But, you know, 10 years ago, starting a startup was like, you know, it, it was a huge risk, right? Like, not, not just from like, a, a personal, like, capital perspective, future earnings perspective, but like, just from like, literally like, you know, what if this doesn't work out? Like, people just think I'm unemployed, right? And, you know, for us, I think one little hack you have being in Europe, if you tell people in Europe you're doing a startup, they think you're unemployed, right? Because there are no successful European startups. So, for us, it was like a big test for us, like, you know, we went in, we decided to do the start before we got YC, before we got venture funding. We just assumed that we wouldn't have venture funding for a year, and that's how committed we were. And I wish people in the US would have to be that committed as well, because it's become too easy, frankly, to raise venture money. I think if you know a little bit about startups, you can usually raise a seed round pretty early. Somebody will give you money to go work on a project if they think you're smart enough. So, the whole point of business is that it's supposed to take people who can ignore those social pressures about prestige, because that's what you need to succeed, right? Like, you can't go in six months in and think like, "Oh man, like, you know, wasn't it fun when I told people that I worked at Google or whatever." Um, and by the way, like, the people you want to impress, they don't care you worked at Google. That's like another, another thing you can use 100%. Something I've noticed, I was talking to my brother about this. He's also done some like crypto startup stuff. Um, he lives in SF currently, and he mentioned how there's a bit of a playbook in SF these days where it's like the secondaries playbook, where it's like, you raise a bunch of money, you generate a bunch of hype, and then you just sell secondaries, and that's it, and you just do it over and over and over again. So, it's like the hype playbook these days.

>> Yeah, it's, it's, uh, there's like a few people who managed to do it very well. I still think it's, you know, overall, it's easier to sell secondaries now than it has been before. It's not founders' fault, right? It's the, the, the problem that the actual reason is, um, there is too much venture money sloshing around. Um, and the number one expense of startups is what, what is it? It's people, right? It's salaries. Like, you want to hire the best people, you got to pay them well. Um, if your company starts making money, you got to give them bonuses. And tech startups in particular, um, their salary is mostly engineers. Uh, and then comes along our friend, Mr. Claude Code. Now, you don't need to hire engineers, right? Uh, you know, I run a 24/7 fintech, uh, our entire product team is five people, including my co-founder. Product team is five people, including my co-founder. Product team is five people, including my co-founder. Product team is five people, including my co-founder. 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Yeah. How young are we talking? Are we talking like 5-year-old me?

>> I would say 15.

>> 15. Okay. 15 is very different. Okay.

>> 5-year-old you. Five-year-old me. 5-year-old me uh didn't know English. So, I was learning English. I learned pretty quickly. Um but uh yeah, he 5-year-old me would be very shocked, I think.

Um 15-year-old me. Yeah, I I think um 15year-old me there was like a a pretty transformative, you know, I I think like that's when I really matured 15. I had two maturing points points. I matured when I was 15 and then when I was 22, that's when I realized I was like ready for work.

>> Two inflection points. I remember doing an internship when I was 20 thinking like I'm not ready to work yet. Like I can't do a job yet right now. Um I still need more time. Do you know what I mean?

I think, you know, um, look, I he they'd be super happy with how my career is going and things like that. Um, you know, I think 50-year-old me definitely knew that doing a startup was the right thing to do and like 50-year-old me wanted to work in like a cool mathematical job, which, you know, I had I still really liked my previous job. By the way, you know, I all these things I've said about quant and like, you know, how I no longer think it has the upside that it used to. Like I I still I enjoyed the day-to-day, right? Like you were solving math problems basically. Uh, and that's, you know, I studied math at university. I did math Olympiads and competitions when I was in school. I still enjoyed that stuff. So I think on that side, I'd be very happy with my career going.

I would say, you know, the disappointing thing would be um you know, probably decision not to do a lot of that stuff earlier and to take risk earlier. I feel you know even even now um the the the business that I'm building and you know this is good to all the users of our exchange because I have a lot of knowledge about it but you know I I've never really tried to do anything like really crazy like even even what we're doing now the exchange um it's built on years of experience that me both me and my co-founder our entire team have around designing you know highly available 24/7 financial systems um so we have deep domain expertise and I I really part of me really wonders that you know if I sat down and thought aimatically about you know what is the thing to work on right now. I would have probably um not even started my first job and just gone all in on AI.

And you know here's a fun fact. Um I had a interview for Anthropic when I was at university that I turned down cuz I'd never heard of them. And I was like I have a job I have a job offer from for for a quant firm. Right. So I was infect I was involved in effective altruism at university. Right. And um anthropic back in those days was a pure AI existential risk safety research institute and effective altruism recommended this is one of the best things that you can work on. And I really wish I followed that a lot more. Um you know I could be anthropic right now and you know not necessarily kind of from the success and you know money kind of side of things but more for like working on something meaningful.

Um but yeah you know I I still feel I work on something meaningful when I'm trying to affect the change in financial markets. I said you a lot of quant is like making markets more efficient and I think yeah one way to do that is to try and make money out of them and be a participant but the other way is just to change the infrastructure. Um but yeah I'll always have that nagging doubt of like you know if I didn't choose the grad offer was like the highest amount of money you know I could be doing even a PhD in quantum computing right which had an offer of and maybe in 10 years time I I would uh that would have been a better choice for me and that would have been like the real high conviction move. Uh because I'm saying all these things about you know have conviction have ambition but like um I still feel you know my path is somewhat um you know it's it's it's it wasn't easy to get a quant offer uh job offer as somebody who studied math at Cambridge but it also wasn't like left field right like a lot of my friends ended up doing that. Um so yeah that's uh I guess uh we'll won't know at least the few next few years pretty locked into what we're doing now but maybe in the future.

us an where should people connect with you if they want to learn more?

>> Yeah, you can follow me on uh Twitter X. So it's just X.coman my first name. Uh I post a lot about Quan content there. Um so yeah um try and post every day and then uh I have also started posting on LinkedIn. Um that's more content about YC entrepreneurship, building a business, um you know dayto-day of like you know running a business, what we're up to, things like that. Um, so whatever you feel you want to uh you feel you enjoy more uh feel free to connect with me. Um if you're not on those platforms then and you enjoy the idea of what I'm talking about like you know if you want to listen more about quan content there is good quan content on Twitter so I'd recommend you get an X account uh and follow me of course.

>> Nice and thanks for doing this. It was fun.

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