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How's it going there? I'm Detective Gonzalez. This is Detective Alosi. Uh, I'm just going to go over a couple things with you. First, uh, just so, just for the record, today's date is Friday, October 13, 2023, and the time is currently 2:40 a.m. And this is in regards to case Joe 2023. Yeah, the case number is going to be 2023-02953. An incident that happened at 211 West 79th Place, apartment number 2011. Okay. For the record, my badge number is 1527 and mine's 958.
Um, you go to school, right? What grade are you in? Eighth grade. Eighth grade? Yeah. Uh, good student? A's and stuff like that? What, um, what, uh, what reading class are you in right now? You know, uh, what do you take? Uh, I just language arts. Language arts? Okay. So you can read with no, with no problem? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to read you something first, and then, um, you can read it afterwards. Okay?
Okay. "Before we ask you any questions, you must understand your rights. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court. If, if you, you have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before we ask you any questions and to have a lawyer present with, with you during questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you desire. If you decide to answer these questions now without a lawyer present, you still have the right to stop answering at any time or until you talk to a lawyer. Waiver of Rights: I have read the statement of my rights and I understand what my rights are. I am willing to make a statement and answer questions. I do not want a lawyer at this time. I understand and know what I'm doing. No promise or threats have been made to me. No pressure or coercion of any kind has been used against me."
Okay. If there's, okay, this is the form right here. Okay. Okay. Now I want you to follow, actually, to read here. Okay. Read this little dot right here. "Yes, before we ask ask you any questions, you must understand their rights, your rights." Okay. You understand that? Yeah. Okay. Go ahead and initial this little dot for me. It means that you understand that. Yeah. Just your initials. I don't have initials. I just draw my name. Okay. Whatever your name right here.
"Read the second line. We have the right to remain silent." Okay. You understand that? Yeah. Okay. Write your name again if you understand that. Okay. "Read this line right here. Anything you say can and will be used against you in court." Okay. You understand that? Go ahead. The same procedure. Just go ahead and put your initials or your signature. "Go on to the next line. You have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before we ask you any questions and to have the lawyer present with you during the questioning." Okay. You understand that? Go ahead and and...
Okay. Now right here. "If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you so desire." Okay. You understand that? Yeah. Okay. Signature. And this right here. "If you decide to answer questions now without a lawyer present, you still have the right to stop answering at any time or until you talk to a lawyer." Okay. Go ahead and initial right there.
Okay. Now read this whole paragraph. "I have read this statement of of of my rights and I understand what my rights are. I am willing to make the statement and answer questions. I do not want a lawyer at this time. I understand and know what I'm doing. No promises or threats have been made to me. No pressure or Tris, coercion, that that we forcing you to do something." Okay. You understand you're, whatever you're doing, you're doing on your own voluntarily basis, making an educated decision for yourself? Okay. Okay. "Keep on pois of any kind of any kind has been used against me."
Okay. Now we are investigating an incident that happened, you know, where you called police. Okay. Before we ask you any questions, we want to make sure that you know this. And if you want a chance to explain yourself, the only way that that we would be able to take your statement is if you agree to talk to us without the presence of an attorney. If you do, go ahead and sign right here. What's attorney? An attorney is someone that can represent you in legal matters. Okay. You, you know what a lawyer is? Yeah. It's the same thing. Yeah. Same thing. By you in that you're wanting to give us a statement without the presence of a lawyer, you understand that? Is that your wish? Yes, my wish. Okay. Can you send your last name too? Yeah. If at any time while we're talking to you, you have any questions or something or don't understand something, please let us know. Okay. Okay. Okay. You want to write your name right up here? Okay. Okay.
I'm going to write the case number here. 1013 to 2023. Okay. 0288953 HPD. The date, 10/13/2023, and the time is [Music] 2:46. Derek, can you state your full name for the record? Huh? I'm Zo. Yeah, everything. Your full name? Derek Steven Roso. What's your date of birth? August 26, 2010. Uh, what's your address? I don't. No address. Okay. What's your telephone number? You don't know it either? No. Okay. What type of phone do you have? An iPhone. An iPhone. What color is it? Blue. It's blue? Yes. Okay. How long have you lived in that apartment there? Since I was 11. So two years. Two years? Two years. Okay. Uh, who lives there with you? My mom. Now my sister because I had my mom had s, um, a daughter a week ago. And my stepdad. What's your sister's name? Okay. And, um, and your, your stepfather? Do you know his name? Yes. What's his name? Frank Ramos. Frank Ramos. Okay.
Um, Derek, let's start with, uh, with this morning. Um, you slept at your house last night, right? Yeah. Do you, do you go back and forth between staying with your mom and your dad or no? Uh, or you usually just live with your mom? Every, it's really hard to explain. One weekend I'm with my mom and the other weekend I'm with my dad. No, I'm not with my dad a whole week. Only, only two days. Only weekends, but not week. Where does, uh, where does your dad live? Don't know. You don't know? But is it in Miami? Down here somewhere? It's in Broward. In Broward? Yeah. Okay. Um, but last night you slept at your mom's house? Yes. Okay. You got up this morning and went on my bus, my school bus. You went to your school bus? Yes. What school do you go to? I'm at Middle High. I'm at Middle High? Yeah. Okay. That's over there on 20th Street, right? Yes. And what grade are you in? Eighth grade. Eighth grade. Honor, honor classes? No. No. Um, so tell me about your day in school. Regular day at school. You, I didn't do too much work. You didn't do too much work? No. Um, uh, regular release day, uh, time, stuff like that. You get, how do you get there? In bus. Yeah. Okay. You got back on bus? On bus? Yes. Okay. And then, uh, you were home the whole day or did you leave? I stayed home after school. You stayed home after school? Yeah. Okay.
Um, did, uh, let's get into what happened, uh, tonight. Um, were you, uh, do, do you communicate with people over the phone? Were you talking? Tell me what happened tonight. Tonight? Yeah. Well, at around like, like 10:00, I went to bed. Okay. My mom did too. Is that your regular time? Like 9:00? Yeah. Okay. You guys, uh, explain to me about the apartment. You have your own room? Yes. And your mom? Yes. She has her own room. She has her own room. And your sister? She stays in the same room as my mom. Stays in the same room with your mom. And tonight, who was all there? Me, my mom, and my sister. Okay. So you went to sleep around 10:00? 10:00. Okay. And then what? I woke up. You killed her. All right. Um, what type of, what type of knife was it? Do you know? It was just a big size kitchen knife. That big? Yeah. What color was the, the, the handle? Purple. Purple? Yes. Okay. Uh, your mom was sleeping? Yeah. She was sleeping. Okay. Um, explain to me. Well, we'll get into that a little later. What did you do after you killed her? My stepdad has, I mean, he owns two guns. He has a Glock 19. Okay. And then I don't know what it's called. Another one. Okay. What color are they? The Glock 19 is black. And then the other one has a silver slide and then like a dark bluish handle. Okay. Um, so what did you do with the guns? He always has Glock an with him at all times. Mhm. And since he's a truck driver, he was at home. He was far away. Okay. So I went into the closet. Mhm. I found his because he goes shooting at gun ranges. Okay. I grabbed the gun. I put the magazine in the gun. P to slide. But I wanted, I didn't want to show myself. Okay. I intended to show myself before, but I couldn't. Okay. Um, and then what did you do? I decided to call my friends to tell them what happened. And then I said goodbye to my friends. You called them before you decided to try to shoot yourself or afterwards? After. Okay. How many friends did you call? Only one. What's his name? I don't know his real name. He's an online friend. He's an online friend? Yeah. When you say online friend, what do you mean? From video games. Yes. From video games. I know him real well. Okay. How long have you known him? Since like I was 10. Three years. Three years. Have you ever met him? No. I've seen his face. You've seen his face? Yeah. So how did you communicate with him? My cell phone. Through your cell phone? So you have his number? Yes. And you don't have him stored under a certain name or you have him stored under a gamertag? I have him. I made up a name for him. You made up a name for him? What name did you make up? From Sweden. Sweden. Sweden. S-W-E-E-D-E-N. Okay. How often do you talk to Sweden? Every weekend. Every weekend. Yeah. Okay. So you called Sweden and what did you tell Sweden? So them what I did. What exactly did you tell Sweden? Weeden, when you say what I did, did you tell them how or no? How you killed her or no? Okay. Did you send them any pictures? Yes. Uh, how many pictures did you send them? I sent them two of my mom and then one of me. Okay. Um, did you, what did he tell you? Said he couldn't believe it. Okay. The Sweden live down here in Florida? Live real far. Real far. Yeah. In America though? In America. Yeah. Okay. So then you, you hung up the phone. I said goodbye. Okay. And then what did you do? I was going to shoot myself, but I just said I didn't want to do that. And I called morning. Okay. And what did you, you told 911? Okay. And they kept you on the phone? Yes. Until the cops came? Until the cops came. Do you remember what else you told, uh, the 911 operator? My address, my name, what I was wearing. Okay. And my age and my date of birth. Were you wearing the same clothes you're wearing now? Yeah. Uh, there's some red stains there. Is that blood? I think it is. Oh. Okay. I have a little bit of blood on my hands. And your hands too? Yes. Okay.
Uh, did you ever make your way to your sister? Killing her? No. Touching her? Touching her? No. No. I left her alone. She was sleeping and she didn't wake up, so I didn't touch her. Okay. All right. Uh, let's get back to your mom. Okay. You said she was sleeping? Yes. Okay. Where exactly did you cut her? Okay. And, and, um, you purposely went for the artery when you cut? Okay. Was there a lot of blood after? Okay. Um, did you tell her anything before you stabbed her? Did you say anything? But she didn't wake up. When you, she was sleeping. She was asleep when you stabbed her. What curse words did you say? Okay. Um, and then she woke up? Yes. Did you say anything else to her? Did she say anything to you or no? No. She just screaming. She just screamed? Yes. Okay. Um, why did you stab your mom? Can I go to the bathroom before I answer that? Yes. Of course. Of course. Give me one second. You want to take him to the? I have patrol taken. Yes. Have patrol taken. Make sure they're 55 on the body cam. Where's? I don't have my body here. I, I'll, I'll go ahead and take them. Okay. I'll go ahead and take them. Here, come with me.
Um, Joel, yeah, just, uh, this left and right. This from right. Okay. Oh, excuse one thing. Um, you said it was your, your online friend, right? What, what type of, what type of console do you have? Do you play them or is it on the computer? I play on a couple consoles. There's an Xbox in the living room. I have a Switch in my room. I have a headset in my room too. Okay. And what type of games do you play? Mostly fighting or shooting games? Like what? Some like Fortnite, Call of Duty. Fortnite, Call of Duty? Yeah. Okay. Um, what's your gamertag? Picture tag? Stock tree. What is it called? Stock tree. Stock tree 1990. Why'd you pick that name? Just. Can you spell that for me? Yes. No. S-T-O-C-K. No space. Capital T. No space. No space. Capital T. Okay. R-E-E. Mhm. One nine nine. Another nine. Yeah. Okay. Zero. Okay. So that's it. Stock tree 1990, right? Yeah. Okay. I'm also going to take you back to, um, you, um, did you call anybody else other than your friend? I called my friend. Okay. Did you post anything on social media? No. Don't think so. I did not. Okay. Do you have social media? I have Discord. Discord? Yeah. That's like a video game thing, right? What's Discord? It's like, what's that? What's that like? That. Okay. That's Discord. D-I-S-C-O-R-D. Uh, yes. Okay. What's your username on that? It's Him. Him. H-I-M. Cap H. Yeah. Okay. Underscore, underscore. Yeah. Okay. Forever. Forever. Okay. Do you have Instagram? No. No. Do you have, what's up? Yeah. Okay. Um, and you don't have Facebook, right? I have Facebook. Okay. Facebook. I use it though. I just need it for my headset. Okay. What's your, what's your, uh, screen name on Facebook? I think it's just my name. Your name. Derek Rosen. All straight? Yeah. With a space in between? No space. Space. Derek. D-R-I-K. No, D-E-R-E-K. I'm sorry. Derek. Space. Rosa. Yes. Okay. But no nothing in between, just a space. The only space. Okay. Uh, how old are you, Derek? 13. And what grade is that? I for at eighth grade. Eighth grade? Yes. Okay. Did, uh, when the police got there, did you tell, did you say anything to the police? Did that you remember? I asked about my sister. You asked about your sister? They, I said, who was in there? I said, my sister. Okay. Did you say anything else? I don't say so. Okay.
Um, so you were about to tell me the, why, why did you, uh, kill your mother? Do you know? Do I have to say a noun? Yeah. Get it off your chest. Absolutely. For a lawyer. Okay. At this point, you want a lawyer? Maybe not. We, we can't. No, listen, listen. Just so you understand, okay? You have mentioned or asked us, should you wait for a lawyer? We're not here to advise you on whether to talk to a lawyer or not. That decision is yours. Okay? But if you are requesting a lawyer at this point, we can't interview you any further. You, we have to stop the interview. Okay? Do you want us to stop the interview? Yes. Okay. Then, then this interview will end right now. It is 3:05 a.m. Okay. Thank you.