EXCLUSIVE RECORDING! The Lone Witness To The Shot On 9/10 Speaks Out. | Ep 360

All right, you guys. I would say happy Wednesday, but England just lost to Argentina, so my house is in a state of mourning. And unfortunately, I have more bad news. Despite our best efforts, no one in the entire world reached out to our tip line yesterday in response to our silver alert. No one saw a bald man wandering around looking like he had a bad case of amnesia, marking time in Salt Lake City on September 10th. I am so sorry, Blakey Pooh. We are doing our best to help you fill in those blanks. What were you doing that morning in Salt Lake City? It's anybody's guess. And it turns out that Blake isn't the only person that is drawing blanks regarding what transpired on September 10th.

So today we are going to return to the courtroom where there was a day for testimony that was given, um, that put me immediately on alert. A testimony that jogged my memory regarding a witness that I had spoken to. Also, apparently there is such a thing as a widow who doesn't readily accept the fed narrative. Cory Comparatori, the lone victim of the Butler shooting, well, his wife has just come out and she has stated explicitly that she believes the government is engaged in a cover-up of sorts, or at least not telling the truth about what happened on that fateful night in Butler, Pennsylvania. Imagine that. Welcome back to Candace.

Okay, so a couple of quick updates at the top here. We received a lot of emails from you guys. People that were sending us the inside of their freedom shirts that they purchased, uh, they thought from Turning Point USA following Charlie's assassination. Well, foremost, you should know that those shirts were not actually sold by the charity. They made an insane profit by running those through, uh, the for-profit arm. But beyond that, they show they sold you a cheaper version of what Charlie was wearing. So, you guys sent it were like, "Candace, it's all cotton, the freedom shirt. It's all cotton." Well, that's not what Charlie was wearing on September 10th. For whatever reason, Charlie was wearing a customized Carhartt shirt, which was, we are thinking, it's got to be either the one that is 50% polyester or 95% polyester. I'm going to show you a photo of Charlie here, and you can see in the right-hand corner we have that Carhartt logo. So you guys were sold a cheaper, a cheaper version. It would, however, be interesting to know who had this custom shirt made for Charlie because I can tell you that that also is new. That brand is new. I can, at every Turning Point college stop that I ever did with Charlie, we just wore typically the same t-shirts that the student chapter was wearing, and they were provided for us when we arrived. We'd have like funny, uh, like you saw, like a him to whatever was happening to be a little extra controversial. I have to say, I don't think I have ever worn a polyester shirt at Turning Point, um, on campus ever. You could go back and look and let me know. Campus class, whatever the t-shirts were that reflected the tour that we were on is what we were wearing.

And here's something that's even more interesting. Remarkably, Megan Kelly, man, she's kind of the ground zero of, she interviewed all these people early on, and now what they told her is becoming relevant. And she specifically happened to ask one of Charlie's many new assistants about the freedom shirt. And I'm sorry to report to you guys, but there is going to be just a little touch of amnesia in this clip as well from Charlie's, you know, second or third or fourth assistant, Nate Walker. Take a listen.

>> Yeah, I was Charlie's, um, executive assistant. Um, the day-to-day Charlie, make sure he has his food, water, clothes. Um, all the stuff that he doesn't need to think about, I, uh, would do for him. And, uh, >> clothes, how'd you do clothes? >> Yeah, you figure that out. You, uh, it was difficult. Not, not the easiest job. >> We have the clothing racks in the warehouse. >> Some days I would just have to guess, figure out what is Charlie gonna want to wear today. And, uh, sometimes I'd be right, sometimes not. But >> well, can I ask you this is, um, not, not to take it to a darker place, but we're all wearing these freedom shirts, the same shirt that Charlie was wearing. Yeah. >> On the day he was killed. >> What is there a story behind this shirt? >> Yeah. So, we, uh, we usually bring a couple shirts, um, to the, to the campus stops, and, uh, I asked Charlie in the car. I go, "Charlie, what, what shirt do you want to wear?" He goes, "I want to wear the freedom shirt." That, uh, that's not controversial. >> What were the other options? >> I can't, I can't remember. >> Like, does he, did he, did he wear like the one that my son has with Trump giving double middle fingers? >> No. No. No. Twice. Not those ones. >> It would always say something. Never surrender. Here I am. Freedom. It was, he, he liked his short tagline.

Lot happening there. Um, okay. So, he went on and did this difficult task of picking out shirts. And then Mikey McCoy comes out and tries to make it seem like it was a really hard thing to pick out a t-shirt. We have the room. It's got a lot of t-shirts. And this guy Nate Walker like grabbed a couple and then I guess turned to Charlie and said, "Which one would you like to wear?" And Charlie said, "I don't want to be controversial. I'm not known for being controversial." That's literally why he went on to college campuses and founded Turning Point USA, to bring the controversy and the discussion there. I, this is a Charlie that I really don't know. Maybe they're telling the truth. Maybe I really didn't know Charlie and he was just pretending for all these years because I, the Charlie I knew, we were dropping Blexit, Black exit from the Democrat party. We were wearing him too during the peak of Me Too. But Charlie this time said, "I'd like a Carhartt shirt because it says freedom and because it's not controversial." And then when she asked what were the other options, he's like, "I don't remember." Wow. He just blacked out on what other t-shirts he picked. How many options did Charlie need? When did Charlie turn into such a diva? I have so many questions. I just remember us just putting on whatever t-shirt and not even caring at all about that.

Anyways, there's that. So, I did happen to ask some, uh, Turning Point employees, former and current, if Carhartt was one of their vendors, and I was told no, because it's quite an expensive shirt, actually. And I don't remember us having ever worked with them. And so, there you go. If you happen to know anything about how or if there was just this one custom shirt made for Charlie, please do send us an email at, um, more tips at candacewowens.com. It's just interesting.

Another quick update and a thank you also to the person who sent us over the tip that Frank Churik also worked with Bank of America. We did that little chart for you yesterday, and we're like, "Wow, all of these people's parents were just working at Bank of America, barrel-led at the exact same time. How interesting. How fascinating." And it turns out Frank Churik, it gets to join the crew for 15 years. He worked as a consultant in New Jersey to Bank of America until 2011. Who knew? I, I, I actually am wondering if he happened to cross Tyler Boyer's dad, who temporarily located Tyler and his family to New Jersey during that exact same time frame because he needed to serve as an executive to the Bank of America. It is just incredible, you know, from Bank of America to politics. It kind of makes me want to open a Merrill Lynch account, right? Check out this headline following Frank Churik's ouster. Tells us, uh, this is the Christian Post reporting back in 2011 that he was the Christian consultant and was fired over his book on gay marriage. The article tells us that just months after being fired from Cisco Systems in California over an anti-gay marriage book, Christian consultant Dr. Frank Turk was also given the boot from Bank of America. Turk was doing work on and off for Bank of America for about 15 years, mainly conducting leadership and team-building programs. Other clients have included Coca-Cola, Home Depot, among others. The US Navy veteran was hired in May to present at a meeting of Bank of America's global business management analysis team, which is within the global wealth and investment management. Wealth and investment. We talked about that yesterday. I'm just wondering if, did you guys maybe not maybe, maybe Bank of America is just a really big bank, and you guys all happen to be attached to it at the same time during the same years? The more you know. Anyway, fascinating little tidbit.

Anyway, today what I wanted to discuss with you guys is another portion of the Tyler Robinson hearing. A portion which quite literally made me sit up straight. It was a testimony that was given by Sergeant Jennifer Filomina. She is within the UVU Department of Public Safety, and I was sitting on a couch taking notes on everything with, um, Carrie Priene Bowler on my side. We were on a couch in Spain, and she will tell you, I completely freaked out. I actually said, "Wait, rewind that, rewind that. I'm having a memory. It's floating from the back to the front of my mind." I was a little bit panicked about it. I made her, uh, just over and over again, and then I was texting Skyler. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It was a particular portion that caused me to react that way. I want you to listen, uh, to what Sergeant Filomina says. And more importantly, I want you to pay attention to her demeanor, the social cues. She's clearly uncomfortable, and she's going to suffer from a little bit of amnesia. It's going around. Everyone is suddenly finding Dory. Take a listen.

>> Yeah, of course. Um, when officers were canvassing the scene, um, they were also trying to see, right, uh, the route of the shooter, as well as just trying to find the shooter. And they deem, or they determined that the Fulton Library stood out because there were, um, unattended items there at the bus stops that were away from the courtyard area, and so to them, they thought it was suspicious. >> And were certain items seized from, and what were they? >> Yes, you had a backpack, um, a jacket, as well as some gloves, and there may have been some other things. I just don't recall them right now. And do you recall what the item numbers were of those seizures? Was it nine? Does that ring a bell? >> I don't remember. >> Uh, those, whatever was seized was sent to the FBI lab for processing. >> Yes. >> Um, and along with some information that the suspect may have, uh, shed some of these items as he fled. Correct. >> Yes. >> Was a decision at some time made, and, and you were requesting that both DNA and other type of analysis get done? >> Yes. At some point, did you decide to pull a plug on that? >> Um, at the time when it was already sent, we didn't have more information as far as whether or not, whe-, whether or not the evidence that were collected there were probative. >> But eventually you communicated to the lab that those items were not, in fact, connected with the case, and there was no need to do further testing. >> I don't remember communicating that. >> Okay. If that's in the notes of the FBI or the ATF, would that be inconsistent with what you know? >> Uh, no. >> Okay. I'm mentioning because some of the reports, the lab reports have those items listed. >> Okay. >> I just want to be clear that those items eventually you determined were not related to this case. Would that be fair? >> Yeah, that would be fair.

It's a weird time for your memory to go out. Who found, in let's call this like, the biggest manhunt plausibly ever, biggest assassination without question since JFK. I think bigger than the JFK assassination. Uh, global interest in this case. You're on the manhunt. You find unattended items. Uh, a backpack, a jacket, and gloves. That's interesting because it was like, what, 90 degrees? So, what kind of gloves are we talking that you found unattended at the bus stop by the library? And I wish we had showed you the lead-up to this question because, uh, what he's essentially asking her is, you know, you have made it clear that the person who jumped off Loy Center ran this particular route. Just so you guys know, the library is not near the Loy Center. So, the reason why they, that route became significant and why they noticed these abandoned odd items, of which she's only recalling in her fuzzy memory three of them. But he goes on to say, "There was actually nine, and you guys wanted it to be tested, and then suddenly told the feds not to test it." Do you remember telling the feds not to test it? I don't remember. Okay. Well, it's, it's in, it's in their notes. Is it correct? Yeah, it's in the notes. It's correct. You don't remember telling them not to test? I, a, who was wearing a jacket and gloves? Hm. At, near the Fulton Library. We're going to talk about why that is relevant.

Anyway, uh, the reason that those details immediately jogged my memory was because of that route. Right. Back in the early investigation, my early investigation, someone had told me specifically that they were there, um, by the bus stop, and they actually ended up making a report about having seen the alleged shooter, someone on the roof, and had a totally different description of what the person looked like. Uh, describe the person as wearing all black tactical gear and intentionally having every piece of their body covered in black tactical gear. Tactical gloves, you might think. I don't think we're talking winter gloves. Like I said about, and somebody can tell me in the chat here. I, I think it was literally like 85 degrees in Utah. So, I, I think if you found gloves, it's just relevant in general. Who's wearing, bringing, holding, and dropping gloves? And what were the other six items that were found? Well, this individual, um, told me that he spoke to students at the bus stop in front of the library, and he also described the gun, and he was able to do that because he happened to also be the only person who captured the gunman on Loy Center in a video as he began lying prone for the shot. You guys remember this video? It was the most widely spread video on that day, I believe. Um, beyond the video of Charlie actually getting hit, the, I'm talking about the, the most widely spread video of the shooter allegedly on the rooftop. This is, he's the first one to have circulated that. And I'm going to let you watch the video so you know specifically which one I'm talking about.

>> Right up. >> Yeah. You think he'd already be in place? >> You would think that. >> So, there's somebody on the roof right there. Just saying. He just ran from, uh, >> over, where's my finger? Well, go from over there. Ran in >> and now he's right there. Just saying. The person who recorded this footage is the person that I tracked down. It was not easy to track him down, but I've stayed in touch with him since, and he has never changed his description of the person that he saw on the rooftop and the person that he saw run away off of the rooftop thereafter. He described an individual, like I said, in all black and in tactical gear, possibly be wearing a helmet. And after he realized that the police had arrested the wrong person, I'm referring to decoy boy George Zen, he walked over to the UVU command center and filed a report and said, "That's not the guy. That can't be the guy. He's just, he's too old." The feds only contacted him once a few days later. He has never been called by the prosecution. It's weird. You got this case coming up. You would think he would reach out to this person who recorded the video and had an eyewitness account. Um, he's also willing to testify. He would be a very credible witness because it happens to be that he works with guns. I want you to take a listen to what he told me. And for reference, uh, this is discussion was had on September 25th. So, this was just 15 days following Charlie's assassination. And, uh, I have intentionally, just so you know, edited out any identifying information, um, regarding who this person is for now, until he wants to fully come forward. Take a listen.

>> I, um, about 5 seconds after I stopped recording is when that person fired. >> Um, and I saw and heard everything but a muzzle flash. So I didn't see a flash come from the edge of his gun. As you can see in the video, I couldn't see the gun at the time. It was just the head and shoulders on a roof. >> But we felt like the, you know, the little concussive impact from the shot going off. It sounded, I thought it sounded like a, a sharp, um, muzzle report. It sounded more like an AR than a large bore hunting rifle, but of course, I've never heard a gun fire, you know, around buildings like that. I'm always out, outside in the desert or something, something like that. So, yes, >> in your video you say that you witnessed him running, and the feds' reports say that he dropped onto that Loy Center roof at 12:15. So, did, where did you see him running? Was it right that he like instantly run and dive into the shot, or did he, did you see him run and then started recording after he ran? >> Yeah. So, he, it was definitely not 12:15. It was, it was, uh, 22 if anything. He was, he was in our line of view for about 30 seconds total, and he ran into off, I mean, we saw him clear the edge of the building and bob up and down. He would, he would go down and look around, then run, stand up and run maybe 6 ft forward, and then go down, look around again, up six feet forward until he got to the edge of the roof. So, it looked like a sort of a tactical movement, I would say, which is why I started recording because it was, I assumed to be a security guard for the event. >> Um, okay. And that's why I started recording is because the security guard would be heading towards the main tent, >> and be moving up and down with, with a long gun in his hand. I was like, that's a little strange. Let's at least record this because, because this guy just >> So, by the time I had my phone out, he was in position, and I was, of course, only able to film the head and shoulders with him viewing the event there on the roof. And you can tell my video is about 20 seconds. So, it took him about 10 seconds to get from our, the edge of our view to where he laid down to shoot. >> He was there for 20 seconds while I filmed the video. And then about 5 seconds after I stopped the video, that's when he fired. and firing. He was maybe on the ground for five more seconds before he stood up and absolutely sprinted off the roof. >> Okay. And just in what you saw with your eyes, does, did that look like he was wearing jeans or tactical gear? >> No, not jeans. It was, it was all tactical. He definitely had a face mask on. At the range we were at, we were about 175 yards from him. I've, I've looked up after the event. I've kind of done some scoping on Google Maps to see exactly how far we were. Mhm. >> Um, I couldn't tell if he was wearing gloves. Um, so I couldn't tell race because all of his skin was covered, but I know he was wearing completely all black.

Fascinating. So, I don't, why are, it's very strange that the feds are putting out just a totally different story here because actually on the police scanner, they described a guy in a face mask in tactical gear. So, I get, I think multiple people called that in, and then suddenly now they're saying he just kind of wore jeans or something. So, I'm very confused by that. No, I agree. And that was, um, my description to the officers on scene about an hour after the shot rang out. I went back inside the perimeter and I ran to the command center and I showed them my video. I said, "You guys have the wrong guy. You got this." It turned out to be George Zen. >> Um, >> you got this old man, and I saw the shooter on the roof. This is what he's wearing. This is how old he looks. Because he was running fast as soon as he took the shot. >> So, that couldn't have been some old man. Mhm. >> And, and, uh, I thought he was wearing a black tactical helmet as well, um, because he looked like he had a slightly larger head than, than normal at that range, but of course, I was far enough that I couldn't really see those details very well. >> Right. >> But yeah, absolutely. All black, and the rifle looked smaller than the Mauser they recovered. >> Specifically, he tells me that it looked like a 223. And like I said, he knows guns. I, I also wish to point out the alleged gunman's movements, you know, jumping down from the roof, going up, down, six feet up, down, making tactical movements like this person was trained. He was convinced that this person was a professional. That just none of that really matches the video that we've seen thus far, which, by the way, they did gut, if I'm correct, a minute out of the video that they showed in court. Nobody really knows why they intentionally removed a minute from the rooftop scene. Is it because they didn't want us to see those tactical movements? Um, why is this guy not being called? Is it maybe because he thought it was professional? Didn't think it was like just a random guy who woke up one day and tried on an assassination? Maybe someone like, real experience, maybe even military experience. I don't know. But most crucially, he instantly, immediately, and has maintained that that gun looks smaller than a 306. And he tells me in other conversations that it looked like a 223. So, that I would guess is probably the reason the prosecution did not want to call him forward. I'm guessing that description doesn't go well with their fed sloppy narrative. And remember, I just want to remind you in terms of that route going center over to a library, which she makes very clear that's the route that the, uh, the shooter took. That, that's why we thought we had to recover these items, but then I don't remember why we decided not to test these items, which sounded like they could be tactical gear. Can't say that convincingly. Can say it's a, it's a little hot for a jacket and some gloves. And remember, there was a string of 911 calls about the library in particular, which is again, not close to the Loy Center. The library was actually subsequently placed onto a lockdown. So, why did they not move to test those objects, uh, which were abandoned? And I think if you guys know anything about those objects or who found them or what the other objects were, I don't know if I missed it somehow in the filing, uh, please let me know. And I, uh, I also want to show you this 911 call of people talking about the Fulton Library. Take a listen.

>> Is on top of the building on the far north side just east of the library wearing jeans, black shirt, black vest. Just advising there is another report. Gunshots heard near the library at UVU. They're trying to lock the library down now. Still gathering. >> She's saying they just got another report of shots fired at UVU library. Spoke to student said that the shooter is on top of the building on the far north side of maybe the CF building or just east of the library. He's wearing jeans, black shirt, black mask, long rifle. What, uh, what happened there? What are we supposed to make of that? Why did we just ignore all of this? And we can show you on the map here how far of a library is from the Loy Center. Um, and again, her demeanor makes me uncomfortable as she's testifying. When you say you just don't remember something on that day, I don't buy it. Everybody had the adrenaline rushing through them. This is going to be the biggest manhunt plausibly in, in the history of the United States. And you're telling me you just don't remember what happened there after. You weren't paying attention when you asked the FBI, did you ask the FBI to no longer test those items, or is that what the FBI is telling you that you have to now tell the public? Go back and watch. She's testifying and then she just gets really clammy and weird in that moment, in my view.

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Someone in the chat is reminding me, uh, that there was also testimony about an unfired 223 round that was discovered on top of the science building. And when they were questioned about why they didn't really do anything about that, they were, they, they gave a, a ridiculous answer. And that is correct. I should have pulled that. A lot of, on again, there seems to be a lot of threads they didn't really want to pull, and it makes you wonder if this person was just a decoy who didn't fire, ran on rooftop, caught that, jumped down, um, and was simply there to gather footage. It really makes you wonder who was on top of Loy Center and why they are ignoring, uh, reports that they've received that the person was wearing tactical gear. Like, we need to know more about what was found at the bus stop in front of the library. Also, guys, if you can pull up that map and you can just let me know in my ear whenever you have it ready, I'd like to see where that science, that science tech building is relative to the Loy Center and, um, also to the library, if that's actually nearby. That would be interesting to know.

U moving on here. Imagine if you would, for a second, you guys, a second. A widow who wasn't grieving differently. A widow who has been grieving for years, who has had many questions and is unsatisfied with a nar-, with a narrative that grows really weaker by, by the day. Truly, I'm looking at my feed today and people are like, "I can't believe that a year ago I did, I just trusted the narrative on Butler." Like people who supported Trump are going, "Were we completely duped by this narrative?" And they can't even imagine themselves asking this question. We revisited the Butler, um, assassination and speculated that Cory Comparator, the only, um, person who lost his life on that day, may have even been targeted. Well, guess what? His widow, Helen, still has questions, and she spoke out and has made it very clear that she is unsatisfied with the investigation. She wasn't ready to go on Barry Weiss two weeks later and say she trusts everything 100% despite seeing nothing. She's fully convinced of what happened to her husband. That's not what Helen did. Helen didn't wear sparkly pantsuits. Helen didn't, uh, hire a bunch of influencers, uh, to target people that were questioning the narrative. Helen didn't become the firefighter that her husband was and take on his job and say she was qualified because she knew how much he loved to fight fires. She's just a whole different breed of a widow. One that we're familiar with, an actually grieving widow. I just wanted to state that it's a stunning comparison. Then you see this when, when what year was Butler? 2000. Somebody reminded me in my ear. I can't even remember. It's been how many, it's, it's, it's been, yeah, it has now been two years, and she is still grieving and she is still asking questions. And so she sat down for an interview on News Nation and spoke about all of the Secret Service failures, and here is what she had to say.

>> You've expressed belief that the gunman Thomas Krooks didn't act alone. I don't believe there was another shooter there, but I believe that he was working with somebody. I believe it was inside. It was an inside job inside the government somewhere. >> And this was a political >> Oh, yeah. >> Political. >> Absolutely. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Have you seen evidence to that? Oh, I've been told things, but I've had something that happened with me that just afterwards, and you're starting to put the pieces together, it just made total sense. What will help give you closure? >> When the people who put this all together that day are caught and it comes out. >> So, if you had a message for President Trump, what would it be? >> Just to don't forget us and remember what we went through that day. You know, we're still here and we need answers. Helen Comparator says it was a year before the Secret Service actually reached out to her. The questions that she did ask, she says they didn't answer them fully, and she's now pleading, uh, out to reaching out to President Trump, hoping that he will intervene, apply pressure so she can get answers as to what happened here and why.

I don't have to sell Helen Comparator. I don't need to hire influencers, um, to say, you just watched that, and your intuition told you that is a woman that is aggrieved. That is a woman that is asking rightful questions. You can still see in her eyes, she's not over. And when, and when they ask her, cuz why would she be? Are you ready? Why didn't she come out and say, "I forgive Matthew Crooks?" Because she still, you, there's no forgiveness until you know the truth, until, until somebody asks for forgiveness, until somebody says, "I am sorry. You know, nothing, and I'm good. You took, you took my husband, a father of my children. I'm good." That, that does not require a billion-dollar campaign to convince you that Helen Comparator is in pain. You don't need, uh, the Department of Justice, an emotional asset that, uh, boosting a person, um, interviews with famous people. You don't need Nicki Minaj. You just needed to just listen to Helen Comparator. And you said right there, that's what it looks like. That's what it sounds like. Someone who is not going to be at peace until they get true answers about what happened to her husband, rather than attacking, threatening via lawsuits, um, calling people names who are asking rightful questions. It's just stunning. Every time you see it, you don't know what it is, but it moves you spiritually, right? It moves you spiritually. When you, when you see it, you know there it is. The truth, honesty, clarity, perspective. Everybody grieves differently. Nope. No. What do you want her to do? Stay in the house for a year? Yeah. Actually, can I say that on behalf of everybody? When they keep asking this question, what do you expect Erica to do? Stay at home and just grieve? Yeah, I do, actually. Like for a year, at least minimally. Yeah, I did expect that she would stay at home and be aggrieved. I think the whole world actually expected that. And I don't know what sort of reverse psychology this is. We're now making it weird that we think it's weird that she's not doing it. But on behalf of the entire world, yes, we, we think it's weird, and we expect her to be so torn apart by what happened, angered on the pursuit, uh, asking all the right questions, teaming up with people who are asking questions, helping them put the pieces together. That, yeah, that is what we expected. You got us guilty as charged. We expected her to grieve for a minimally a year. Didn't expect her in the office laughing at emojis six days later. I got to be honest. I don't know if this makes me a monster. A guide to grieving quickly within six months and forgiving by the 11th day. No, I'm not buying it.

You know what else I'm not buying, and turns out that you guys are not either, is the bot campaign, the Israeli influence operation, the farad docs that were filed, um, following Charlie's assassination, almost immediately following Charlie's assassination. Clock, Clock Tower X. We talked about this. Um, the Israeli foreign minister quite literally hiring, uh, Brad Parscale, the former Trump campaign manager. His firm Clock Tower X to conduct a digital campaign on behalf of the state of Israel. Like, we wouldn't notice the foreign bots in every comment section, um, calling us names, screaming at us, being absolute psychos. That's really going to bring us over to their cause, right? Well, Time did an article today, and they're angry. They are angry with Brad Parscale, the government of Israel, because it seems to have backfired, and they are saying that they spent, I believe it was $1.5 million a day. And they're naming names. Um, Eyal Yakovi, I blocked him so long ago. It was so obvious that he was a paid stooge. Every single post, like 300 posts a day, that's a full-time job. That's a full-time job. And when I see these accounts, just block them because I'm like, you're not a real person, and you're obviously, uh, just being paid. And he had, he had to own that. These, yeah, they're being paid. We know who they are, and they're using the same words. This is an article that is well worth the read, talking about how the trends are obvious because they're all using the same word at the exact same time within seconds of each other. Uh, the evidence is overwhelming that Tyler Robinson did this. That felt like an Israel influence campaign to me and others who have common sense. And so it talks about how, which I didn't know, I, uh, that Brad Parscale was the owner or a part owner of the company Influencible. And that's when they essentially text everyone. They offer them money and they say, "Go out and say this, and we'll pay you depending on, um, how many people you get to retweet you, how big your, uh, your post is." And that's why they're tweeting all day like psychopaths when you're going, "Is this your full-time job? How are you tweeting about Candace Owens 300 times a day? Is this your full-time job?" They're trying to get you to engage because they get paid off of the engagement. So, it's actually a really important article for you to read. And it tells you that under the agreement, Parscale was meant to produce 100 original pieces of content each month. And 80% of it was initially supposed to be aimed at Gen Z across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. Uh, and they basically just drafted this services agreement and they pledged to amplify the campaign all across social media and to integrate that message with the Salem Media Network properties, which we have discussed on this show, targeting Christians, targeting MAGA supporters who are supposed to get behind Trump and say, "Yeah, Israel, go ahead, do that genocide, do the thing. We love that. Kill some more children. I've been influenced to believe you're the victim as you kill." I, I guess. And what is, at what is at the root of the failure of this campaign, right? What is at the root is people are not stupid. That's it. I honestly don't understand why the Israeli foreign minister didn't reach out to me. I could have consulted and told him why it was going to fail because people don't want to be disrespected. You think we're so stupid that we can't recognize a sock puppet account? Like, we can't see that it's not possible for someone to be tweeting 300 times a day about one topic. And by the way, you also keep hiring people that have no brain cells who don't even want to watch an episode or they just, this person is stupid. They're name-calling. They're nasty. Um, they're not offering anything. Just attacking people. You're going to send out attack dogs and expect to make friends. It's a new world. This has been the entire lesson of this year. I, I, I suppose there was a time when this worked. Ad spend equal results, right? That worked. That is the world that Blake Lively lived in, right? Too big to fail. Icarus just flying towards the sun, never thinking that he might get burned and fall, right? Just getting closer and closer. Well, I'm friends with this person. I know this person. I have contacts. I'm friends with Cash Patel. I can hit up Trump. This is the story of Turning Point USA, the story of Blake Lively. We're too big to fail. And Ryan Reynolds, we're, we're A-listers. And all of these people are failing because we live in a new age. Okay? It's just that's over. That method doesn't work. So, what you're going to have to do is respect audiences to make up their own mind. Try articulating an actual reason why they should support you. Try debating people rather than calling them names. Being willing to sit down and have a conversation and treating them like human beings rather than like they're people that are so dumb that all you have to do is offer them some influencers online and some bots, and they're not going to have the fortitude to go, "No, I don't agree with that because it's wrong." People do have the fortitude, and they're waking up to this. And so that article, like I said, you should go read it in its entirety. It's stunning, uh, to see just the entire collapse. I'm so proud of us. I am so proud of us. Moving, moving away from these people who think, "Well, we have the money and the connections to destroy you and to sue you if you don't agree with us." Like, it's just so weak. And any person that follows that model is going to fail now and into the future.

Anyway, I want to very quickly, um, read this because I had, um, we received this tip, and, uh, somebody had mentioned to us, I said to you, if you work at a car dealership, because we're kind of looking for what I think could also be decoy Dodge Challengers, to see if you guys rented that car out on the 9th, on the 10th, and somebody mentioned to me, pardon. Oh yeah, I won't say the person's name, don't worry. Lily starts with, "Please don't say my name." Um, but this person reached out to us and also reminded us that it could have been somebody rented a car via the app Turo, um, in those areas. So, Salt Lake City, Utah. I would also say Las Vegas. If you have a car and it got rented during those days, and it happens to be a gray Dodge Challenger, um, check that as well. I also heard that there is a very small, where Blake and them landed, there is a, in the airport, there is a very small rental company. I think it's called like Fox Rentals, and they were people are wondering if they have a Dodge Challenger and if maybe that's where Blake blacked out. We are, we are just trying to do this to help Blake, by the way. That's it. We just want to help this guy. This, this, this bald creature who doesn't remember what he did that morning. And, um, we're here for him. That's what we do here on the show. We help people, even the ones that don't deserve our help. Uh, okay, let's take a quick break, and then I will get to some of your comments.

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I'm just reading this live comment that just came in. "I still don't think there was a shot from the rooftop. I don't see any type of firearm when the person jumps, let alone a Mauser." I actually agree with you. Based on everything that I've seen, if I had to put together a story, I, I would say that's another decoy person who was told to get onto the rooftop, timed it.

You know, perfectly coordinated. This is when we're all going to do this. Who knows? Hand signs. Who knows what they're doing? And um crouches down. People are recording that. And then they hear the sound of a shot, obviously, uh, or a sound of a just a a boom, as so to speak, in case it is the mic and all that's meant to be a distraction. And they were tasked with just crouching low and then running.

Um, I actually tend to agree with you on that. If we're allowed to think and investigate everything that I've pulled together, I do not believe that anybody described to me a person recoiling. Uh, the conversations that I've had with the individual who you just heard from, uh, said that he did not witness the actual shot, but, you know, saw him in the prone position, obviously saw everything, heard everything. And I think this is the reason they are avoiding him. I think that is the reason they are avoiding him because he is a credible witness. And he also says that it just wasn't the gun that they are saying Tyler used, um, to kill Charlie.

We, we've just seen no evidence that Tyler Robinson had anything to do with Charlie's assassination. And like I have said, my investigation leads me to believe that I'm not saying he wasn't involved. I believe he was around campus on campus for decoys. Tyler was around campus and he was tasked with dumping clothes at the Dairy Queen. Who knows how they got him to do that? I'm not saying that would not make him an accessory to something, but in terms of actually killing Charlie. Um, no. I, I, I am still a believer that all of that was a show and what happened likely took place under his shirt. I have not seen any evidence to the contrary yet. Could be wrong. Obviously, we know they're going to go through with this trial, and I'm actually looking forward to seeing more of that overwhelming evidence that we haven't seen yet.

Top comment from yesterday's episode came from Chewing the Void. This person writes, "Nobody dismantles Andrew and Blake's credibility faster than Andrew and Blake." Could not agree more. There seems to be some, like I said, mass panic happening at Turning Point USA. I am so the person that they are focused on. I would still to this day sit down with Blake Nef or Andrew Colbeat. I would welcome them into my home to sit down. Um, otherwise, I would probably, you know, I definitively would do anytime, any place. In terms, let me be clear here because last time things got a little tricky. We live in a technological age. We can zoom anytime, any place, you know, on the internet. Um, I would like to have that conversation and I would be completely respectful and ask questions, hopefully come away with answers. What I expected to do when sitting down with Erica. And it led me to believe that she lied to my face. I can't come back from that. When people try to sell her to me or say like, maybe it's it's like, no, guys, she lied to my face. No one can make me come back from a person who lied about the surgeon call. Address that. Address that. Make that make sense of why you hung Andrew Kovat out to dry and the surgeon saying one violated HIPPA, one went rogue on the day of Charlie's funeral. Why won't why won't you address that? Come out and say, "No, Ken Kandis is lying. That really is what happened. The surgeon went rogue. Andrew went rogue. Andrew even tweeted it and went rogue." And I stand by that story. It deserves a response. You're the CEO and the chairman of an organization that took in, my understanding is that you took in more than a quarter billion dollars last year. It's a lot of money. A lot of t-shirts sold. Um, we deserve to have basic answers to these questions.

So anyway, this person actually comments for today. Oh, I actually the top comment from yesterday. Sorry. This is amazing. He really did say this. "Where were you the morning of September 10th?" Blake Nef. Why would I even remember such a thing? Just he's just a character. He's like, why would I even remember such a thing? What, why am I, what? Okay.

Um, some more comments from today's episode. Truth Veil writes, "I live in Michigan. Carhartt is a Michigan company. I have plenty of their shirts and was at the Carhartt store in Detroit in around Christmas. I did not see the Freedom shirt. Safe to say it was custom." Also, baby name idea for your son, Charles Maximus. Charlie Max. Christ is King. Charlie Max. That's very funny. Uh, Chris Angelo writes, "Charlie had the utmost confidence in Cash Patel." Yes, I know. Sad. Trump and others in the administration only for them to rob him of a legitimate investigation, pervert his words, and completely undo everything. Christ is King.

Yeah, I mean, that really is the the worst part is the organization is upside down. It's it's nothing that Charlie believed in. Charlie did not believe in suing your way to the top. He did not believe in calling speech violence. He stood so against that. The idea that speech is violence, you question a narrative, you should be thrown into prison. This is this is communism. Turning Point USA went from capitalism to commies real quick, right? Uh, throw them in the goolag. And except the difference here is that they try to use God as a front for what they're doing. Like, how dare you? It's it's what you're doing is against the the word of God to ask questions about why nothing you're being told makes sense. It it's it's so strange to me. It's like they they want us to be in a cult, uh, where we just follow Erica and Andrew Kovvat and Blake because, well, we we were with Charlie in the in the final days. Well, are you carrying on Charlie's message? Turning Point USA became big because they were honorable. Charlie was honorable. Not the people around him clearly towards the end, but Charlie was honorable. You know, if he had disagreement, he confronted it. He went on to campus and and certainly stoked controversy, uh, and was willing to have that conversation. He constantly talked about the battlefield of ideas. The battlefield of ideas. He wore the shirt. The the catch line was big government sucks. Now the catch line should be the big big government is great. More big government, more cash patel, more undeserved appointments to the Air Force board or whatever it is. He believed in a meritocracy. I stood next to him. I don't believe there is a single person who did more events with Charlie Kirk than me. He talked about a meritocracy. We talked about the American dream. Meaning based on your merit, who you are, and what you can accomplish, you should be able to climb to the top. He didn't believe in a coronation. He didn't believe in, well, Lindsey Graham is dead, so now his sister becomes a senator. What is this? You're the you you've turned everything on its head. And so, yeah, I at the end of the day, when people say that Turning Point USA died with Charlie, they are correct. I don't know what this organization is. I I hope they find their footing. The footing would not be found without the truth. I'll leave it at that.

Ray Draper writes, "In Tyler's text messages, he says that they interrogated someone in similar clothing after arresting some crazy old dude, but a description was not released until the following day and included a vest and a mask." Yeah, I don't know who he was referring to in those fed text messages. I don't know at all who similar clothing that I mean, we had the one guy we had. I mean, I don't know what Sam Keshi was wearing, but because I don't know, then how could he know what Sam Keshi was wearing? George Zinn certainly was not wearing similar clothing. I have no idea who he was referring to. Maybe somebody in the chat does. That's a good that's a good point. Uh, I also would like to know why we can't get timestamps, but I think we don't know, but we know it's going to be that Penguish Steakhouse thing that's going to throw things for a loop. And there are receipts. I'll leave it at that.

Jennifer Hover writes, "Just because Harpole and his trolls tell us what happened in the car doesn't mean that it happened. Shapiro said security updated security. That's Brian. Why should we believe what they say? Brian was updating. I'm starting to believe they watched him die." You know, two theories that are interesting for sure. Dan Flood with the metal glasses. They do appear to be metal glasses based on, um, they appear to be. I mean, I don't know if Turning Point's ever disputed that. I I don't I don't think anybody really watches the Charlie Kirk show. Maybe they have, but, um, it certainly looked like those were metal glasses. So, some people think that that could be a a plausible theory. And the other one is Frank Turk getting ahead of things. They kind of tell stories to get ahead of things that might eventually come out, right? So, Frank Turk is on, I'm on the phone with my son, so on a FaceTime call. Well, what if he's there? More people on that call? We don't know. We have no idea if there are more people on that call. None of these people have presented their phones to anybody because why would we? Why do we have to? I don't know. Because no one believes you. It's a good reason. Everyone thinks you're lying about everything. You've lost the faith of the people and you kind of need the people to run a charity. You need the charity of the people to run a charity. Or you could, you know, flit and float and fly and rely on the FBI. I don't know. Uh, the other, uh, I guess the only other person could be the driver going 100 miles per hour, updating Ben's security on a seven-minute journey. We'll find out. I do know who he was having lunch with. It's a actually deserves a whole episode. Uh, we will, I thought it was going to be topic I covered, but it kind of deserves a whole episode.

FS Clair writes, "Former US Army here. The person you spoke to is describing what is called individual movement technique, IMT. It's what someone does when crossing a danger area, reacting to sniper fire. Normal people do not move like that. Only trained people do." You're he's referring obviously to the call that we just aired and him describing these tactical movements. And that person, like I said, is very credible and very qualified to know what he's talking about. And clearly you are as well, IMT. And the reason why you both would know is because of training. The average person wouldn't know that. So where did Tyler Robinson learn those moves? If we're supposed to go with the narrative that it was him and everyone could see it in 4K HD at the very end of the fifth day of the hearing, the influencers were shown it. Where'd he learn those movements? Was he just like practicing that?

Uh, this person writes, "Have you noticed law tubers who made bank off championing anti-establishment underdogs like Kyle Rittenhouse and Johnny Depp are now ready to convict Tyler Robinson on that overwhelming evidence? Did Brad Parcell find a new propaganda source?" I mean, it is pretty obvious to me that many people are being paid to push this. And the thing about a lie is it's a it it just always kind of you can make a lot of money really fast, but then nobody ever trusts you ever again. So, you should run the calculations, you know, if that's what you what made you flip. And like I said, that time article breaks down. It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money, but you're on borrowed time because it is almost impossible to rebuild trust with the public when you go this all in on something so ridiculous. Cage it if I'm running, if Israel's paying me tens of millions of dollars. Like, how am I trying to think about this? How how would I be a fraud? How do I how would I be a fraud? I'd be so like thoughtful about it. I'd be I'd be like, you know what? We've done some things wrong. I would like to see more evidence. I I do think it's T Robinson, but I'm not 100% there yet. Maybe some more people were involved. Like, cage it a little bit, you guys. Cage it a little bit. Bring it inward. You know, I'd like to hear more from Lance. There certainly could have been some more people that were wearing those shirts. I wish that footage was clearer. I still think it's Tyler, but I'm a little upset that the footage wasn't clear so that we could just move on from that. That's what I'd probably say to sound like I wasn't a paid propagandist, right? These people are like all out. Like don't believe your own eyes. Only listen to us. Follow our instructions. It's him without a doubt. The evidence is overwhelming. I I I'm fainting from the overwhelming. The welming is happening. Me and all these influences. They're just not good. They're just like sleazy car salesmen. You know what I mean? Uh, it's like watching, for those of you who have seen Matilda the movie, the car scene there, like it's a sleazy used car salesman is what they are. And they think the more emotion they add and screaming and yelling and that you're supposed to fall for it. It's it's not working. Guys, please back to the drawing board. Israel, back to the drawing board. Call me. Call me. Yeah, I know we're not friends. Whatever, but call me. I I will consult for free and tell you why it's all not working. Um, and again, it's just because people aren't stupid.

Last comment, Candace, I know you're not a Real Housewives fan. I used to be. But you are giving Heather Gay from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots, effing, everything. Keep going, Max. I don't know who that is at all because I I don't have time right now at this phase of my life. I used to watch Housewives a lot actually when I was a lot younger. Uh, but it I I hope that's a compliment. I hope so. I'm certainly going to look it up, maybe watch an episode and and be able to respond more forcefully to that.

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