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I mean, one version, maybe between UFOs and the president, would be Epstein and this sort of, you know, or just, you know, you have intelligence. And then, but then you have some weird kind of international intelligence thing going on, distributed compromised systems, that sort of thing. And then you have Epstein's interest in science. Do you think there's a connection between Jeffrey Epstein and UFOs?
>> For sure.
>> And what is it?
>> So, uh, I wrote a piece on this recently in my Substack. Um, which, by the way, that's my Substack. It's very easy to find. Jason Georgiani on Substack. There's only one Jason Georgiani. Okay. So, there you go.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh, Jason Georgiani on Substack.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, there's a piece, uh, on on Substack. This focuses mostly actually on Glenn Maxwell more than, you know, EP, but, you know, Epstein is obviously, you know, uh, integral to to the whole story of who Glenn Maxwell is, who her father was, and what their aims and intentions were. Um, and I draw from various sources in that article. Uh, work the Dark Journalist did in, you know, uncovering connections between Maxwell and the whole Atlantis mythos. Uh, Whitney Webb's research. Uh, what, um, Ari Ben-Ari uncovered in terms, or at least testified to, in terms of, um, Epstein's high-level arms dealing, his involvement with Iran-Contra, and so on, so forth. So, I have a bunch of, uh, sources that I'm drawing from in that piece. But long story short, here's my pro. So, UFOs, was he involved? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, Eric Weinstein, you know, has done a lot to expose this recently. Uh, I mean, you know, the guy, you know, so look, Epstein put together a conference basically hosting and platforming all of the top gravity researchers in the world. Epstein was taking people down in submarines, including Stephen Hawking, to study quantum gravitational anomalies in the Bahamas basin, basically in the Bermuda Triangle region. So Epstein was clearly interested in understanding gravity.
>> Mhm.
>> And quite possibly for the sake of propulsion. And then you have Glenn Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, who's a triple agent, uh, MI6, KGB, Mossad, gatekeeping scientific discoveries through his control of journal publications via Pergamon Press. Pergamon Press, that, by the way, Pergamon, uh, is the place that was believed to have been the throne of Satan.
>> And so his choosing that name is not at all incidental.
>> Jesus.
>> So.
>> Well, I hope you're not that form of Satan. Well, let me unpack a very interesting point in relation to that. Okay. An interesting and deeply disturbing point.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> So, Robert Maxwell was clearly involved in gatekeeping. And you would think some of the scientific journal publications that he was, some of the articles that had been submitted that he didn't allow to see the light of day and that he sequestered and monopolized as part of his database would have had to do with propulsion breakthroughs and electrogravitics. So, okay, Epstein is continuing some kind of research that Robert Maxwell was involved in that has to do with conquering gravity.
>> Do you think he was interested in electrogravitics specifically?
>> Yes. But but here's the thing.
>> Well, what makes you think that?
>> Uh, look, he was interested in gravity.
>> But that's that's I could explain that away. I could say that for the last 60 years, mainstream physics has been stuck on quantizing gravity and and basically, uh, you know, reconciling general relativity and quantum field theory, and he was just this generic science honeypot person. Or you could get into spookier territory, say he was into the Casimir effect, which I know he was. And then then even crazier would be electrogravitics, because electrogravitics is a specific term around Thomas Townsend Brown's work.
>> I'll tell you why I think electrogravitics. But here's where it gets really much crazier, and I have this in my piece, is that by all accounts, all the young women involved in Epstein's compromised operations.
>> Mhm.
>> Were, well, most of them were Nordic, and none of them were, uh, black or brown women. And this has been noted very clearly by people who were involved. They said he wasn't interested in them. And in particular, there are some women who now you can question their whether they're telling the truth or their veracity, but they claim that they were taken to Zorro Ranch specifically as part of a breeding program where Epstein intended to inseminate them with fetuses that had superior genetics. And he was involved in the evolutionary dynamics, uh, biology sub-program at Harvard. He had keycard access to that. Even after his first prosecution, he retained keycard access to a program at Harvard which is euphemistically involved with what we might call eugenic applications of emergent biotechnology.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> Hanging out with Robert Trivers, top evolutionary biologist, and George Church, transhumanist. And so Epstein is trying to create eugenically enhanced Nordic people at Zorro Ranch. Meanwhile, here's where it gets really creepy. The aides who worked for Glenn Maxwell, the, she had these live-in male aides at her apartment in the Upper East Side of Manhattan at her townhouse.
>> And these male aides were all from Sweden.
>> This one, one of them wrote an article about it. I cited in my in my piece, uh, on my Substack. And he says, I asked her, like, "What's it with you and like Swedish people?" Like, she, she's like, "I've never even been to Sweden." But she would bring these guys on three-month tourist visas uniquely from Sweden. They were all like good-looking blonde guys. And the guy who wrote this article said, "I would notice that whenever like my hair had fallen in the, you know, bedsheets or in the bathroom, it would all be cleaned up."
>> What?
>> So his hair was being retrieved, Gatka style.
>> What?
>> From his living quarters in Glenn Maxwell's Oh.
>> Townhouse. Okay. So it wasn't just young women. She had young, well-competent male aides whose genetic material was also being collected as part of some project. So that to me is a second data point. This fixation with Nordics and eugenic uses of biotechnology that then spins Epstein's interest in gravity in the direction of, oh, the UFO phenomenon, electrogravitics. He's interested in these Nordics and their connection to UFOs. That's a speculation.
>> It's interesting. Well, yeah. Who knows?
>> And then there's, of course, all the Atlantis stuff.
>> The Atlantis.
>> They were obsessed with Atlantis.
>> Townsend Brown also spent a ton of time in the Bahamas. Did you know that? In Nassau specifically, and he would do these expeditions where he'd look at gravitational anomalies there. He's close to William Stevenson, who spent the, I think, the end of his life in Bermuda.
>> Um, so so Okay. Yeah. And then what, what is this? Yeah. Dark Journalist reported on this as like this sort of submarine that he would take Stephen Hawk.
>> Well, Glenn Maxwell named the the thing the Atlantis submarine.
>> Right.
>> And you know, when you know, there was a temple to Poseidon on the island on Little St. James. There was a temple to Poseidon. You know, Poseidon is the patron deity of Atlantis. In Plato's account of Atlantis, Timaeus and Critias dialogues, he he talks about how the Atlanteans were, uh, basically descendants of Poseidon. There was their patron deity. And then on Zorro Ranch, where the breeding program was, he had a labyrinth in the shape of the ground plan of Atlantis.
>> Weird.
>> Yeah. This is stuff that Dark Journalist, uh, dug up years ago.
>> So, but you can see it. I mean, you, there's tons of photographs of this stuff.
>> And you have this oceanic trade network, this Terramar, or whatever.
>> And Glenn Maxwell was obsessed with Atlantis from childhood because her father, Robert Maxwell, was friends with Jacques Cousteau. And Jacques Cousteau admitted to them that his interest in oceanography really came from an obsession with finding Atlantis. Eventually, Glenn Maxwell would dive on sites, you know, she was an expert diver and she was a helicopter pilot and so on and so forth. And she would dive on sites in the Bahamas area where there were believed to be Atlantean ruins, including she was trying to get permission from Fidel Castro together with Epstein to dive on a site on the western end of Cuba where Paulina Zalitzky, a Canadian oceanographic archaeologist, had found ruins of a vast Atlantean city.
>> Whoa.
>> Uh, this was roundabout in the early 2010s. She mapped the whole thing with sonar. It wound up in a number of news stories. And I think at one point, National Geographic even said, "Oh, well, this needs to be looked into." She goes, "So, this this is a site off the western end of Cuba." In other words, it's right across from Yucatan. She suspects there's a connection to the ruins in Yucatan. So she goes to Mexico to investigate the connection. She's arrested in Mexico, severely intimidated by the authorities, and sent back to Canada, and she drops further investigations, and the story disappears from the media. Now, Glenn Maxwell went down to Cuba and met with Fidel Castro together with Epstein to get permission to dive on this site. So these people were interested in Atlantis. They were trying to breed Nordics, and they were in interested in gravity, in in conquering gravity. Therefore, I suspect that the interest in gravity is an interest in electrogravitics and, you know, the Townsend Brown effect, and basically, it's all part of the UFO phenomenon that they're trying to crack.
>> Do you know, um, who Peter Lenda is?
>> Sure. You know, he writes about this unholy alliance where he talks about the Nazis, you know, uh, sort of, uh, aligning themselves with the tall whites of the Nordics, and there being some sort of secret technology.
>> I have an essay in in that book, Lovers of Sophia, I mentioned earlier, an essay called Black Sunrise. It's about fascism. The whole essay is about deep the philosophy of fascism, you know, and, uh, I cite Lenda a few times in that. So, do you, do you think that like there's some sort of, you know, this like control system or whatever, and then they're aligning themselves with different political factions and using them and discarding them sort of cyclically or something like that?
>> That's one way to read it.
>> Is there a connection between the eugenics of and whatever Epstein was doing? Is there--
>> There's definitely a connection. The question is, what's the connection?
>> Here's the problem. If you look back at the 1950s contact, I lay this out in detail in Closer Encounters, and frankly, I'm appalled that UFO researchers don't talk about this. I mean, this is clear, it's clearly a taboo, and they don't have the backbone to honestly discuss this. George Van Tassel worked for Lockheed.
>> Mhm.
>> George Van Tassel used to have Howard Hughes land on his private airstrip and come eat his wife's pies.
>> He lives under this rock called Big Rock. I've been there.
>> Yeah, me too.
>> Uh, so you went to the Integron?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> This is cool.
>> And I've been to Big Rock.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> So, uh, this this structure under the rock where George Van Tassel lived used to be owned by a Nazi called Frank Croitzer.
>> Mhm.
>> And he was confronted by the Feds during World War II because they found out he's working for the Germans. So there's a standoff, and basically, long story short, Croitzer's got a bunch of explosives in this place, and the Feds closed in on him, and whether he set them off or they shot at them, the place exploded, right? And Croitzer's blood was splattered all over the walls, he dies. Van Tassel knew now Croitzer was involved in mining, in the mining interests. It looks like he was a forward operative for the Nazis, looking potentially to colonize California if they won the war or something like this. And he was involved in mining. Van Tassel knew Croitzer. Van Tassel takes over the property from Croitzer after his guts are, you know, splattered all over the wall, and he moves his family into this. First of all, what is the psychology of a person who who moves his family into this Flintstones layer that in which a Nazi exploded on the walls that they're looking at while they eat breakfast in the mornings, right? And this Van Tassel works for Lockheed, and Howard Hughes comes to that same under, you know, underground layer, right, to to eat Miss Van Tassel's pie. Okay. Now, what was George Van Tassel all about? What he tells us is that the entities from Venus, the Nordics, of course, revealed to him that the human race comes from space. And when they got here, they found these hominids, ape-like people. And in the first expedition they sent to Earth, it was only men. Very 1950s, you know, kind of view. You send the men first, establish the frontier, and all this [ __ ] you know, set up, set up the, you know, be the frontiersmen. Um, but the problem is that when subsequent expeditions came together, you know, that had women, and they were actually intending to settle on a large scale, they found that the men who had been sent there as the forward explorers and and frontier settlers wound up mating with the females from among the hominid population. And then they had created these hybrids. They were basically quasi-human. And Van Tassel says, well, these are the lower races. The master race on the earth are simply humans in their original form that come from space. And then there are all these other lower races that are product of hybridization with a local hominid population. Now let's look at, uh, George Hunt Williamson. So George Hunt Williamson was, um, uh, was a pseudonym. The guy's name was Michel or Miguel D'Obrenovich, and he was actually from Serbian royalty. And this guy became George Adamsky's handler. So he, he basically, he was helping Adamsky edit all the stuff that Adamsky published, and he had had precedence as an editor/handler for a magazine called Valor, which was the publication of William Dudley Pelley and the American Silver Shirts. These were fascists in the 1930s and into the '40s who wanted us to make an alliance with Germany instead of going to war with Hitler. To such an extent that William Dudley Pelley was eventually arrested and put in prison for basically collaboration with the enemy. When he was in prison, he wrote a book called Star Guests. Star Guests. And it created this religion called Soulcraft. And it's the same damn message as Van Tassel. The Nordic race came from space. They found inferior, uh, hominid life forms here. They interbred with them. You know, it caused a fall in the level of human consciousness. We need to extricate ourselves from this through eugenics, etc., etc. Same racialist ideology. Then you look at George Adamsky himself. Adamsky says that these beings who come from both Mars and and Venus and inhabit the whole solar system, whatever, he says, oh, they're far more enlightened than us. They have a form of society where the government, religion, and science are not at all distinct from each other, and people are educated into the system from childhood. How wonderful. Sounds like a great society, right? The ultimate totalitarian system that you could imagine. And of course, they're all Nordics. And then last example I want to give, Billy Meier. Also not really his name. I mean, his name was Edward Meier. He got the name Billy when he was working in Tehran. The guy was 007. He was a James Bond-style super spy field intelligence operative. Really working primarily in the Middle East.
>> Billy Meier.
>> Yeah, until he had an accident in Turkey in a bus accident. His arm was severed, and then he moved on to this property in Switzerland where he became an older man, and he became the Billy Meier that we associate with the contact phenomenon.
>> I didn't know that.
>> I dug up this and have documented it all in Closer Encounters.
>> Wow.
>> So Edward Meier.
>> Mhm.
>> Was working for somebody in the Middle East that gave him access to all of the Arab potentates. He met with all of the royalty in the Middle East. He had access to the court of the Shah of Iran. In particular, he was very close to the King of Jordan.
>> Billy Meier.
>> Billy Meier.
>> What?
>> And get this.
>> Context for the audience. Billy Meier is a famous Swiss UFO researcher, ufologist, who in the '90s started to take these amazing, like, seemingly high-resolution photos of UFOs, attract all sorts of stuff. A lot of, you know, intelligence, I think, became attracted to what was going on with him. And then he was sort of marginalized at the end of his, he's still alive, but, you know.
>> Speaking of the photos, Jacques Vallee.
>> Because a lot of people have said, "Look, these photos are ridiculous. I mean, the, you know, they're way too high resolution. They're way too, some look like, you know, pots and pans, whatever, held up."
>> But Jacques Vallee has looked at some of these photos.
>> Yeah.
>> And his comment was that at least the best of them.
>> Yeah.
>> He said, "Okay, they could be fake."
>> But, and I think they were, they were earlier than the '90s, some of these photos.
>> He said at the time when they were taken.
>> I think they were '70s, late '70s. In any case, he, Vallee's analysis, and remember Jacques Vallee is living in Silicon Valley. He has access to a lot of tech people. I mean, he's a tech venture capitalist himself. He has access to a lot of people involved in also, um, special effects and optical stuff. He was he knew Spielberg personally and worked with him, right? And Vallee's assessment was that yeah, they could be fake, but he would have had needed access to ILM to fake these. And where did like some guy living on a farm in Switzerland have the capability to fake some of these?
>> Super sophisticated.
>> Exactly. Exactly. No, exactly. So, this is where I'm going with this. Is that the people who were involved with Billy Meier in the years where he was acting as a super spy working in the Middle East say that he introduced these tall, very good-looking Nordic people to the Arab leaders, and they would have meetings with these Arab kings and so forth on policy and what they were supposed to do. Now, few people know that Latin America was not the only area the Nazis were interested in after World War II. The reason why the Arab countries have a black, white, and red color scheme is that they got it from the Nazis. And a huge area that the Nazis were interested in was the Arab world. Interesting. After World War II, they embedded themselves deeply there. They were building, uh, V2 rockets and the successor Scud missiles for Nasser and eventually for the Iraqis and so on, so forth. So now, this is a complicated argument which, you know, people have to actually dig into it in the book. I build off of research by Joseph Farrell to suggest that there was an international post-war Nazi network, some people call Dishpina, the spider, and that Edward Meier was an operative, high-level operative of this network. So, point being, from Van Tassel to George Hunt Williamson, George Van Tassel, George Hunt Williamson, George Adamsky. But what is it with George, by the way?
>> Why are they all you know? What is that?
>> Yeah, it's interesting. Uh, a whole other side interest of mine is, um, greater Iran and its history and, you know, uh, you know, its cultural anthropology and so on and so forth. And in the Indo-European languages, the word "George," "Gorga," means wolf. And, you know, at the end of World War II, the, uh, domestic resistance to the Allied occupation were called the Werewolves.
>> That's right. The Werewolves. They hide out underground often. Yeah.
>> So, it's interesting these Georges. And, you know, in the case of George Williamson, it was just a completely fake name. His name was Miguel D'Obrenovich. Uh, in any case, whether it's Van Tassel, George Adamsky, uh, George Williamson, or Billy Meier.
>> Uh-huh.
>> It's all the same very racialist, Nordic, hierarchical cast system kind of narrative. And the question I have to ask is this, that when you put now, this is going on in the '50s, these contact things start in the '50s and go through the '60s. We know that the breakthrough in aerospace propulsion at Martin Aircraft and potentially others was also in the mid-'50s, where they were saying they can roll these things off an assembly line in three years. Right.
>> Mhm.
>> So if Epstein and company are trying to reverse engineer this technology or breed some kind of Nordics or whatever, they're very late to the game.
>> You see, it makes me wonder.
>> It's a fly trap. It's a front for, you know, funneling in scientists for something that is actually vital and has existed for years.
>> Quite possible. That's one definitely one interpretation. It's a fly trap. It's it's an entry gate.
>> It's a beacon.
>> Sure.
>> And then they're going to be funneled, some just like the remote viewing program that we were told about, the SRRI Stargate program, etc., was shut down in '95, was really actually like a a vestibule for a darker deep black project that still exists. The one that, you know, Pat Price, uh, was recruited into and killed over. So that's one possible interpretation. There's another interpretation, which is that scummy as he is, Jeffrey Epstein, and more importantly, Robert Maxwell and his daughter,
>> Mhm.
>> Were part of a rebellion against the system, and they're trying to develop, uh, strategic competence and, you know, something approaching parity with those who are actually running the breakaway civilization. That they've, they've that's not the the vibe from all of them is that they're they're being used by some power structure above them would be my instinct. It's quite possible, but like just back pattern.
>> I don't I don't have a a dog in the, you know, I, you know, I don't have a, you know, a pony in the race, you know.
>> Uh, I don't know. But, uh.
>> But I'll tell you this.
>> That, um, the obsession with Atlantis is interesting in this regard because Atlantis is a rebellion against the Olympian control system. So from the standpoint of people who want to maintain a hierarchical cast society with the Devas or the Elohim or whatever at the top of it, valorizing Atlantis doesn't make very much sense.
>> Mhm.
>> From that standpoint, to valorize Atlantis is satanic.
>> Yeah. You, you'd want it to not nobody to even be thinking about.
>> That was the huge mistake we made that we should never make again from that traditionalist, hierarchical, perennialist standpoint.
>> Yep.
>> So their obsession with Atlantis does suggest to me that maybe they saw themselves as being in competition. And the other thing that suggests that to me is the fact that Jeffrey Epstein is dead and Glenn Maxwell is in prison.
>> Mhm.
>> So that if these people were like low-level, lower-level operatives for the people actually running the show, why did they meet with such ends?
>> Well, I think they would because they, you know, a bunch of other powerful people want them dead.
>> It's quite possible.
>> Yeah.
>> Including potentially the President of the United States.
>> Yeah. I think there are a whole host of really powerful people that wanted Epstein dead.