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Are you already [Music] registered? Hello and a warm welcome! It's great that you're with us again and have tuned in to our program, Naturmedizin. Today, we're dealing with a, yes, very unpleasant topic: the illness polyneuropathy. And for this, I have a very likeable and very competent guest. Marco Klein is with me. His family, or rather his father, developed the Klein fields, and we'll see what the Klein fields can do for polyneuropathy and also get information about studies that have been conducted. So, stay tuned, it will be exciting. I'm looking forward to my guest now and cordially invite you to join us until [Music] shortly. Hello, dear Marco, thank you very much for coming again and for telling us about great possibilities with the Klein fields. Yes, thank you for the invitation. Before we dive into the topic, you've had numerous successes with the Klein fields for polyneuropathies and are even planning a study, is that correct? That's correct. Because when the reports of experience accumulate, one says, "Let's take a closer look. Where are the differences here and there?" Yes, yes. Now, polyneuropathy, the term might not be familiar to everyone. Someone who has never had anything to do with it or has never spoken to someone affected probably has no idea what it is. Can you briefly explain the symptoms and the effects of polyneuropathy? Yes, so polyneuropathy, overall, you can imagine it as damage to the nerves. It can have various causes, but when nerves no longer work properly because they lack proper blood flow, meaning oxygen supply, it starts, like with a diabetic. That's very common because they inherently have very poor blood circulation due to diabetes. That's why, even with diabetics, feet are amputated because they eventually die off due to poor blood flow. And most polyneuropathies are even precursors for many, because when the nerves don't get enough supply, the nerves degenerate through this damage. And then they have a kind of abnormal sensation. So, polyneuropathy, while it's known to be nerve damage, has various causes. One is the supply, as mentioned, through blood flow. The nerve cell doesn't get enough oxygen. Another can be toxic exposure. Many have it after chemotherapy, after cancer treatment, because when you have toxic exposure, like heavy metals and whatever else there is in the body, they can also damage nerves. And then it's the case that the nerves then have these abnormal sensations. People notice this through pain. That's why it has become very well-known, precisely because when you have these undefined pains, mostly in the hands and fingers, and consequently the feet are even at the forefront. So, most people develop it first in their feet, perhaps also the legs, the lower legs, where people notice numbness, burning, like, like nettle stings, some describe it as needles pricking or something that burns, and you can't get to it. That can drive you crazy. So, primarily feet, hands for many, also legs, are the main points. But toxic exposure and lack of supply due to blood flow are the two main criteria. And that's a constantly present issue, isn't it? For those affected, they are neither free from it during the day nor at night. Especially the feet, of course, where we know we have to walk and move. And when you feel on the soles of your feet that they are numb, hot, cold, abnormal sensations, then they also turn pale, like very poor blood flow, which is the cause for many. But this feeling of nettle stings, of needles, is of course highly unpleasant. Numbness, etc., all come with it, and you wonder what's going on. Yes, can something be done about this illness, or what is done? In conventional medicine, it's still considered an incurable disease because, as a rule, conventional medicine tries to see what can be done with medication. Now, of course, people know painkillers and take many, even up to morphine eventually, because they only try to endure the pain somewhat as the nerves continue to be damaged because the cause is not resolved. That's why it's very surprising for many that Klein fields have also produced results, because otherwise, there is actually no reliable healing method. One can try to support the body's blood flow with warm and cold foot baths, etc., which sometimes alleviates symptoms a bit, but there's really nothing sustainable. And for people, that's of course sheer terror. You feel every step, or after exertion, it comes back. Interestingly, it was with the Klein fields that it all started in 2014 with a pilot study by Professor König in Magdeburg, who had taken various illnesses. And polyneuropathy was also among them. For example, there was a patient, and that's when we first became attentive, because patients had slept on a Klein field sleeping mat. Klein fields improve blood flow, and to put it simply, they support blood flow, so that cells can be better supplied again. And it was the case that a patient there had successes. After three months, the polyneuropathy was completely gone or reduced to an absolute minimum. And then it increased as more and more patients reported. Yes, and that's how it came about. Mhm. So, you've already mentioned the Klein fields. We've talked a lot about them, and you can certainly watch other videos about them. You also have Professor Dr. König, Professor König, Professor Dr. exactly, Dr. König, Brigitte König, involved in the study, and we have, or you have, brought an interview, right? Yes, exactly. Because here you can see a bit of what happened, to imagine how nerve damage can suddenly heal. It's very clear: if I improve blood flow in a way that is not good for many with polyneuropathy, if I can make the blood flow again, which Klein fields can do, you can look at how they work exactly, but making the blood more fluid, then of course nerves can get more supply, regenerate better. Because it is fundamentally possible to regenerate nerves, but it is still considered so difficult because there was no method that was precisely accurate. And Professor König, in an interview, also made a statement about it. Exactly. I got involved with the Klein fields because I was asked if I could see a way to objectively prove the effectiveness of the Klein fields. Since medicine is our main field, I naturally tried them with the mitochondria. And we were able to show that the Klein fields very positively influence the mitochondria. Klein fields work, among other things, on the mitochondria. Mitochondria are our powerhouses, and without them, nothing works. It is now known from conventional medicine or from high-ranking scientific publications that mitochondria are responsible for a variety of diseases when they don't function. This includes Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, cardiovascular diseases, atherosclerosis, circulatory disorders, diabetes mellitus, migraines, and other diseases of our civilized society. And since the Klein fields have a positive effect on the mitochondria, they also have a positive effect on all these diseases. We have successes or experience with polyneuropathy, for example, after chemotherapy. And they really help to make this polyneuropathy completely disappear or reduce it to a minimum. This is certainly also due to the blood flow-enhancing effect of these Klein magnetic fields. Exactly. I think it's important to understand that she spoke of mitochondria, which are powerhouses, as she said, in the cells. Because in studies, one doesn't just look at whether something hurts more or less, but one goes into the area of the cell and sees if it's working better, what's happening there. And these mitochondria, as she said, produce cell energy. And when a cell is weakened because these mitochondria don't produce enough energy, then of course there can be functional disorders. A functional disorder in a nerve cell is then these abnormal sensations that one feels due to nerve damage because the cell's performance decreases. And you can measure exactly what's happening in the cell by looking at these mitochondria, these powerhouses in every single cell. Because it has been seen that in certain disease states, including high blood pressure, varicose veins, everything that was possible in the study, many things have improved. One looked at exactly what was happening. And since we are talking about polyneuropathy today, on the far left you see patient EK with the abbreviation. Mhm. An older woman. I'm not sure about her age. They looked at ATP, adenosine triphosphate, which is the universal cell energy, so to speak, our cell's fuel. And it is produced when the cell takes up oxygen for the mitochondria. The main thing for producing energy. Yes, everyone knows you can fast, the body functions, but you can't not breathe for 10 minutes, that doesn't work. So, oxygen is the most important thing for the cell to produce this cell energy. If I support blood flow, so that more oxygen reaches the finest capillaries at the cell, then it can also perform differently. And it has been shown that these mitochondria produced more energy. And there you see patient EK, who previously had an energy level of just under 71% and even went up to 105%. As an explanation, why have nerve damage regressed? Because of good blood flow, good supply, that's still understood. But what happens in the cell? That's why it was a factor to explain better why these abnormal sensations decrease. The cell can regenerate better through this increased energy. That's basically the mitochondria topic she mentioned. Exactly. And we have, I think, around 1000 mitochondria in every cell, right? Yes, it even varies. There are cells in the brain that have significantly more because they need to be much more powerful, but generally, a few hundred are said to be around 500, sources differ a bit, but it can go up to a few thousand. And that was very, very interesting in the study because these mitochondria, through this good supply that the Klein fields provided, this was incidentally with the sleeping mat, patients slept on it for three months. Blood was taken before and after. Because the polyneuropathy had disappeared so much, the patient could say that herself, but to look at the laboratory values, and it was very interesting because it wasn't just more ATP produced in the mitochondria, because then the mitochondria would have simply produced more. No, what was highly interesting was that significantly more mitochondria had formed, on average, in all patients in the study, eight times more mitochondria. But if you then imagine how many a cell has, if it had, for example, 500 mitochondria, and eight times more, everyone can calculate that in their head what that means, how much energy and power was suddenly available, then it's not surprising that the cell produced more ATP because there are so many more powerhouses. Mhm. Mhm. So, to repeat, because what was, or how was the study conducted? The patients slept on the Klein mat for three months, right? Every night. Exactly, exactly. Every night they slept on it. And nothing else was changed in the study, the habits remained the same. So, they really only slept on it at night. Now, with polyneuropathy, it's often in the feet. Klein field insoles have become very well-known for that. Because, of course, if I put them in street shoes or house shoes, some even use them at night, they put an insole on their foot because, due to the high blood flow, the nerves are also supplied better. Where many relatively quickly realize for themselves, "Put your foot on it, say, three, four minutes, this can't be happening, it starts to tingle or it gets warm." Anyone can do that at home themselves. People are differently sensitive. One says, "Something is happening after 20 seconds," the next needs 10 minutes. There are also insensitive people like me, I don't notice anything. My foot has to be very cold in winter, and when I then step on it, it gets warm in comparison. But for many who otherwise have problems with their feet, these insoles are of course incredibly interesting. And otherwise, because it's also a whole-body issue with the nerves, with the sleeping mat, the overall supply through blood flow improves, then of course the effect is even greater than just localized. Yes, it might hurt less in the foot, but the problems are still there everywhere else. Mhm. How long does it take to notice significant improvements, based on experience? Actually, it's as varied as people can be. There are reports of experience that we ourselves can hardly believe, because people say, "I slept on it for two nights, and suddenly I don't feel it anymore." They then notice, yes, it came back, but not as strong, where the body slowly reduced it. As a rule, however, it takes a bit of time. Because with polyneuropathy, let's say, until you reach this stage that Klein fields generally achieve, many might notice an improvement after 4-6 weeks, but it's still there, perhaps just less pronounced. But if you look at where it has gone, where patients say, "I have no problems with it at all anymore," or only an absolute minimum in bad seasons or similar, then it's often at least 3-4 months. For many, it's even five. So, it's not something you can think of quickly. Because what many need to understand is that for some, it's even the case that at the beginning, when they sleep on Klein fields, these pain conditions might even worsen slightly at first. Because if I supply the cell immediately throughout the body, and the body says, "Oh, now I can detoxify, now I can do this," all that it couldn't do well before due to poor blood flow. What happens when a nerve cell is better supplied? It will be able to report pain better. That's not the case for everyone. With polyneuropathy patients, compared to other pain conditions, it's more common. They sleep on it for a night and say, "Oh, I got up, I have more pain." They'll never use it again because they didn't understand it. If they weren't clearly explained by a therapist or by us, then you turn it around, so that you only start with the feet, then you increase the area week by week, so that the body doesn't repair everything at once, because then the reactions are often stronger. And so you can increase it slowly. With insoles, you usually don't have these problems because it's always just localized. But with the sleeping mat, it can happen that when people notice, "Oh, the pain has increased," because the body reacts immediately. It's a great sign, the performance is coming in, but no one wants more pain, logically. And that's why you do it more gently in terms of increasing it. Then it might take a few weeks until you lie on it with your whole body. But even then, many notice that their legs feel lighter, because that's often due to fluid retention with polyneuropathy. And just so you know, hey, it can even go in the other direction at first. Then feel free to ask us, otherwise, if you have questions, we'll tell you exactly how to do it. But for the basic successes, in terms of the time you need to give it, I would estimate about 4-5 months. But I think you can manage that well by sleeping in a bed. So, I think that's nothing compared to the fact that if I know there's no conventional application that frees me from it. Painkillers, that's what most people swallow by the handful, of course, have many other problems because of that. So, they are naturally happy when there is relief, because not taking medication and still having the problem is also not a solution. And therefore, yes, yes. The next question would have been: are there side effects? The so-called, they call it the initial worsening, when the body comes into its strength and then exactly. Yes, side effects don't exist. Because by side effects, I think one generally understands harmful side effects. It's a completely natural therapy path through special surface-like magnetic fields, but not generated by electricity, but by permanent magnetic fields, similar to the Earth's magnetic field, which we need to live and with which our body also works. That's why we turn around at night. As researchers know, if you lie in one direction, fluids flow more in one direction. Then I think of the rotisserie chicken that turns on the spit, because the body, that's why we turn around at night, so that the fluids go in the other direction. That's why we constantly turn back and forth so that the body can also carry out its regeneration processes, lymph flow, and so on. That's why the Earth's magnetic field plays a role there, or it has an attractive force. And on this natural path, if I build the fields alternating in polarity so that the blood dissolves these clottings, because that's what Klein fields do, this blood flow, this fluidity into the capillaries, and thus the tissue, whether it's muscles, nerves, the liver, any organ. There are many diseases where Klein fields are successful, simply because it addresses the root cause, not the symptom. Why does it help with migraines and foot pain? These are completely different diseases. Because the body repairs itself. It's about self-healing through high supply. Exactly. So, in principle, I have learned about the Klein fields, that they improve blood flow and the body as a whole gets better oxygen supply everywhere. That's basically all based on this issue, and exactly, health builds on that. And nerve cells, that's the topic. We're not talking much about muscles, although many pollutants are often in the intercellular space, which are also better transported away by high blood flow. But there are also dietary supplements that promote blood flow through various substances, whether it's elasticity, or blood flow. But as a physical problem, that is permanent, without side effects, without having to stuff myself with substances, to say that it works naturally like that, because the Klein fields interact with the red blood cells. When they move past them, when I lie on a mat or have my foot on something like that, they move over it. Blood is electrically conductive, it has iron in the blood, hemoglobin, people have heard of that. And that reacts to plus-minus, plus-minus, plus-minus fields. And because this plus-minus is like a pulling, pushing, pulling, pushing of the ions, the effect occurs. Because what many don't know is that red blood cells are negatively charged, so minus, you'd say in school, minus, plus, and minus repel each other. And if all red blood cells are negatively charged, and if they have good energy, meaning they are healthy, they stay away from each other so that they don't form clumps. But if the energy of these red blood cells decreases and they become weaker, what happens? They clump together, and then small clumps form. This is called rouleaux formation. Some call it thick blood, because in dark-field microscopy, some know that the red blood cells are not individual but in chain-like structures. And of course, these red blood cells can carry less oxygen. Then, of course, a big bus comes, it can't enter the pedestrian path because it doesn't fit, where only individuals can enter these small capillaries, which is important for nerves, that they don't just get the big highways where blood flows, but these small capillaries. And does it work properly there again because this blood clotting is dissolved by this pushing and pulling through these natural fields? Pure physics, not a matter of faith. It works, whether it's an animal, a child, or an elderly person. The blood moves over it. The heart beats continuously, the blood is always in motion, whether we are sleeping or awake. And when it moves over it, this effect occurs. And whether it improves sleep disorders for one person because the nervous system has better blood flow, for the next, regeneration in nerve damage. The body does it itself through high supply. It's basically a basic therapy. You can also promote it through various dietary supplements. But at its core, it makes it very interesting for many. It's not just the blood flow that functions less well, but also the clumping that happens and then clogs vessels. There are incredibly many reasons why this blood clots. This lack of strength and energy that many people have, that's often how it manifests. That's why drinking is the most important thing. Liquid also makes the blood flowable, but these blood clots don't dissolve easily. And to have a reliable way, there is otherwise. There are therapies that can do that in phases, but you have to use them constantly. And if I just sleep on a mat at night, which is also without electricity, without electromagnetic smog, I treat for 6-7-8 hours without having to do anything. And that's what ultimately makes the therapy so successful. Because without doing anything, constantly, naturally. That's what makes it special. Yes, yes. And a good feeling that I am exposing my body to a truly meaningful field now. Mhm. Yes, sounds fantastic, and it can also be, or I see it as a great option, a great possibility for patients suffering from polyneuropathy. We've already talked about a study. You're doing a study. Can you tell us more about it, and can viewers who are affected also participate? In this case, it will actually be a preliminary study. In real studies, patients cannot be selected; universities do that themselves. In this case, it's a preliminary study because we want to know exactly what percentage of people might have small deviations, how long it takes, it might go quickly for one, a bit longer for another. And then it will probably go in the direction that patients will have a sleeping mat on which they will sleep for a certain period, document it, and offer it as a free option for many to treat polyneuropathy. The mailbox will probably be flooded with inquiries, we know that from other studies. But we want to make that possible, to be able to say broadly, "This percentage of patients have improvement after this and that time, perhaps also combined with insoles to achieve even faster results." Simply because the reports of experience are already there, we have them in large numbers. And now it just needs to be documented a bit more precisely, and that's what this study is intended for. Exactly. Mhm. Are there also different stages of polyneuropathy? Like you told me about the study on varicose veins, where you chose particularly severe cases as a greater challenge to see what it does. Is it the same with polyneuropathy? Exactly. There's no medically known cluster form where you can say if you have this, you're stage 1, 2, 3. But you can generally say how long someone has had the problem, especially in older age, it has usually intensified. How intense is it? Is it just a slight tingling that you say is unpleasant, but it's still manageable? Because some endure it for so long until they say, "Now I have to do something because it hurts." The intensity can of course vary greatly. Someone who is already taking pain medication more intensively, and then you can say that both mild and severe cases will probably be included to document it more precisely. Exactly. Okay, wonderful. If someone feels addressed, where can they, how can they contact you? Where can they... First, you can of course search for Klein fields on the internet. You'll find a lot there, even videos from you, to inform yourself a bit. Otherwise, if you've searched for Klein fields, biorelex, that's the brand under which it all runs. You can contact them in Germany, or there's also a location in Austria and Switzerland. And you can ask us if it's possible, because there will certainly be limited spots, because you can rarely accommodate all inquiries. That's why it's always good to contact them early so that the chances are higher. Exactly. If you ask us about it, we can provide information on whether participation is still possible. Super, wonderful. That's a great offer. Thank you very much for that, and I wish you great success in your study, that you can show good results and thus encourage many more people and show them a way. Thank you for your research in this regard, or for your, you are leading it. Yes, and good luck. I'm already looking forward to hearing the results when it's... I was just about to say, it will naturally take some time, but we can gladly let you know. Wonderful. Thank you very much, dear Marco, until next time. Thank you also to you for being here again. And I hope you've also got an idea that for a problem that is not solvable conventionally, there are still solutions. And that's what we always want to show, that there are solutions for various problems. And if you don't take this path of solution, then you can't experience the solution. Therefore, our call or our encouragement is always: take the paths that are suggested, as long as you get inner agreement with them and as long as the results you've seen today, for example, convince you. In this sense, stay mindful, vigilant, and please be kind to yourself. I wish you all the best until next time. [Music] [Music] time.