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So, let's start with Venezuela. Um, the New York Times is now reporting that Trump has been said to authorize CIA plans for covert covert action in Venezuela.
Now, when I read this story, I thought to myself, didn't I read this story about three or four weeks ago? I think this is the exact story. Correct me if I'm wrong. Do you remember it? I think this is the exact story that the New York Times or somebody else came out with about four weeks ago. We have Jason here who watches, you know, this kind of stuff. Am I right in thinking that, Jason?
>> Just heard this three or four weeks ago or a month ago. Something like that.
>> Yeah, right. Just >> heard. There's nothing new here.
>> Mhm.
>> So, what exactly is the New York Times doing?
>> They're they're paring what they were slipped from their unnamed source. Imagine that.
>> So, what do you mean they were slipped from an unnamed source? What uh what do you mean by that?
>> There's no way this is a leak. like, "Oh, we got to get this out because it's like atrocious what's happening." They were This is approved in my opinion.
>> This is This is something that uh this is something that you're seeing the deep state in action. Somebody wants to make sure that this is uh that this is circled around. So, everybody's like, "Oh my gosh, what are we doing in Venezuela? What are we doing in Venezuela?" We've already told you what we're doing in Venezuela. Um, this is to uh secure the Western Hemisphere, to get China out of the Western Hemisphere. Um, this has everything to do with that little training island u that we told you about a year or two ago where Hamas and Hezbollah are training people in Venezuela just off the coast. That's what this is about. This is to stop the infiltration of the Islamic radicals in cahoots with Maduro in Venezuela. That's what this is about. And the Chinese are an extra added benefit. You know, don't don't believe the, you know, well, it's the drugs. I mean, if it was a drug thing, we would also be going after Mexico. I mean, not that that doesn't play a role, but it's it's only part of the story, and we've told you that. Uh, and now you know Trump authorizing plans for the CIA. Yeah, we know that you you said that to us long ago.
Now, at the same time that is happening, there was a video that was released from the Democrats. Now, these are Democrats um that are currently, you know, in power, bigname Democrats, and listen to what they're telling the troops and intel officers. Listen to this.
I'm Senator Alyssa Satkin, >> Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris Duzio, >> Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander, Representative Chrissy Hulahan, >> Congressman Jason Crowe. I was a captain in the United States Navy, >> former CIA officer, >> former Navy, former paratrooper and Army Ranger, >> former intelligence officer, former Air Force. >> We want to speak directly to members of the military >> and the intelligence community >> who take risks each day to keep Americans safe. >> We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military, >> but that trust is at risk. This administration is pitting our uniform military >> and intelligence community professionals against American citizens like us. You all swore an oath >> to protect and defend this Constitution. >> Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. >> You can refuse illegal orders. >> You must refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our constitution. >> We know this is hard and that it's a difficult time to be a public servant. >> But whether you're serving in the CIA, >> the Army, our Navy, >> the Air Force, >> your vigilance is critical. >> And know that we have your back >> because now more than ever, >> the American people need you. We need you to stand up for our laws, >> our Constitution, and who we are as Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up the ship. H.
So, I'm looking at this and I'm thinking I agree 100% with everything they just said. 100%. My question is, why are they saying it? What What illegal orders? And why now? Are you telling me that all of the stuff with USAD, all of the stuff that was going on with the FBI, with our intelligence community, with Russia, Russia, Russia, all of that stuff was on the up and up? They had no concern about that. When when Barack Obama was targeting US citizens to be droned, US citizens to be droned, they had no problem with it. And now all of a sudden, because of what? Venezuela. Now all of a sudden they have a problem. No, I don't think so.
I I think this is a this is this is the beginning of a campaign. Um and again, all it does is sew seeds of doubt. Not in the mind of the military. Not in the mind of well maybe CIA, but I think CIA is off on their own territory. Anyway, this sews the seed of doubt in the mind of the average American. They're now sewing the seed saying Donald Trump is doing something unconstitutional with our me with our military. What is it? Speak clearly. Don't say we're under pressure. Speak clearly. What exactly is he doing that is unconstitutional that they should uh that they should disobey? I'd like to know what it is because all this is doing is undermining.
>> Is it Venezuela? Like did they did they state you know?
>> No, they didn't say that.
>> It's just just a generalized advice. Whatever you do, don't like it's that seems really sketchy because we were talking about this a little bit off the air and that like there's a version of that that's like treasonous, right? like you're telling the the military to not listen to the commander-in-chief. Now, that's I don't think that was the version of it that is treasonous. I think that that was worded very carefully and and as you point out, like I don't think anyone would disagree that if you there's something blatantly illegal, you shouldn't be doing it.
>> Um but I guess their idea is uh some of these is it maybe Venezuela are they trying to encourage these people to not drone the ships? Like what are the what is the what's the ask here?
>> They didn't mention I don't know. They're just they're just sending out that's why this seems so unbelievably calculated to cause chaos because they're not sewing seeds in the doubt of the minds of the military. They are sewing the seeds of doubt in the mind of the US public. This went out to everybody in the whole world and what it is sending is a message to the whole world. Our president is so bad that we in Congress need to tell tell the military do not obey him.
Well, can you be specific on what exactly? On what exactly? No, they they can't be specific. If you could be specific, I would have no problem. I if if you came out with that message and you said, "Look, we just want to restate the policy of the United States, whether the president is a Republican or a Democrat, you do not have to obey the commander-in-chief if he is asking for things that are unconstitutional. For instance, if he asks you to do X, Y, or Z, they're not just talking about as well as the um the military. What's intriguing to me is they're also including the CIA. Who in their right mind today thinks the CIA is under control? Who in their right mind thinks the CIA is actually living within the constitutional bounds? Cuz I don't. Do you do you know anybody who thinks that left or right? Does anybody within the sound of my voice think that the CIA is actually contained uh and and uh living in its own uh little space constitutionally where it should be? Does anyone actually believe that they answer to Congress? Does I don't. Do you still do you, Jason?
>> I I think the establishment of the CIA is actually anticonstitutional. To be perfectly honest, I I don't think that an organization like the CIA can operate within the bounds of disclosure with uh, you know, letting Congress know everything that they're doing. It can't operate that way. So, I think all too many times they understand that and they just do whatever the heck they want to do.
>> It's all Black Ops. It's all Black Ops stuff. And You know, look at what where where was this message uh when we found out uh from what was the guy who blew the whistle and went to Russia? What was his name? Um
>> Snowden.
>> Snowden.
>> Snowden. Where where was this message with Snowden when that came out? Hey, if you're in the NSA, you're in the CIA. You can't be doing this stuff. So blow the whistle. Where was that? Where is this been? this message have been when when any of the whistleblowers have come out? Where is this with the whistleblowers that are coming out today about what the CIA has been doing, what the intelligence community has been involved in? Where was this message? This is not an honest message. That's the problem with this. This is not an honest message. This is part of color revolution. I'm convinced of it. This is just sew the seeds of doubt. Make sure that you are positioning the president as somebody who is so radical and so unconstitutional that they have to tell the military not to obey his orders without any specifics whatsoever.
That's pretty remarkable because again I don't have a problem with saying that we're one of the only countries you do not answer to the president of the United States. You do not answer to your general. you answer to the Constitution of the United States. That's absolutely true. So, I have no problem with this message being taught. It should be taught by every single president president. But it's not. They have seen so many abuses under their rule. And now all of a sudden, you get this. Where where was this message when the president used the military as a prop behind him in the speech where it was blood red and Biden was saying these are enemies of the state. You can't do that with the military. Where was this message from anyone? Hey, you cannot be used as a prop behind the president. You cannot do that. I didn't hear anybody saying that. They because they don't have a problem with it. If it's their side, they don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with it on both sides. I want the military and I I want the military Let me separate these. I want the military to know you, we have your back. If the president, any president is ordering you to do things that are unconstitutional, do not do them. Do not do them. Blow the whistle and the American people should have your back. I know I will have your back to the uh to intelligence community. You better stop doing what you're doing because I know the American people and I don't know if you can be stopped, but I know the American people know that you're doing things that you should not be doing and you've been doing them under every president for God only knows how long. Stop doing it because if we ever get into the position where we can stop you, we will. And the American people will demand a trial for every single one of you that was breaking the Constitution. Don't care who ordered you to do it. It's your responsibility to say no. And you haven't. You haven't. Start saying no to any president, any boss, anybody who is telling you to violate the US Constitution. Don't do it. Don't do it. But I don't think that's the reason why they're saying it.
>> No. And they know this because all of them were are veterans of the military or the intelligence community. They know and I've gone through these before. There's already this is stating the obvious. This is already taught within from the lowest enlistment rates all the way up to the top. You know, within, you know, Officer Canid school and within the military, there are procedures if you ever have an unlawful order how to, you know, you know, work through it and report it. Stu, what do you think this is really about? What are they doing?
>> It feels like it's about politics, right? I mean, it feels like uh they are trying to um build a case that the president is continually engaging in things that are illegal and unconstitutional. And like when I you bring up color revolution, I think those I think it's I mean there's a political element to that and I think so they may very well be related. But if you think about like I it might be about Venezuela, but I don't think the American people really care about that story. I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know that that's necessarily healthy that we don't care about it. I think there are some real questions about how the process here and how all of this has gone down. But like I I almost feel like it's more related to something like, >> you know, immigration uh enforcement, right, in the United States. And that's not, you know, because we've talked about um the uh the military being involved in cracking down on cities and and things of that nature where like, you know, we've talked about the questions around them. There are legitimate questions about how much can be done in that realm. Um, I wonder if they're trying to kind of set that precedent, this sort of tone that the president is engaging in these things and slowly over time you can build to not only a political answer, but you know, maybe the McCulla revolution angle and also the chaos in the streets angle. At some point, if you believe your president is doing unconstitutional things and forcing the military of the United States to engage in actions that are unconstitutional against the American people, man, you're going to get a lot of people out in the streets for that one. uh if this thing were to be successful. So I think that might be the path. Do do you buy that?
>> Uh yeah, I do. I just think that it is I think the main goal here is just to undermine credibility. Just undermine and tear us apart even more. Undermine credibility. Sew the seeds of chaos once again.