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All right, welcome to a brand new episode of the Liz Wheeler Show. If you are not already subscribed to the show, please take a moment to do that before we get started because we have a big show for you today.
We are going to talk about President Trump's "A whole civilization dies tonight" post on Truth Social. He posted that relating to Iran. We're going to talk about that in a moment and what it really means. This is what he posted. He said, "A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out tonight. One of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran."
Now, this post from President Trump is creating quite a firestorm online. We're going to talk about what it really means. Is Trump actually going to genocide the Iranian people? Well, we'll get into that in a moment here, but first, I need to talk to you about something. And I hate to wade into infighting that happens on our side, but there is something seriously weird, very troubling happening in the conservative podcast world right now. And we touched on this briefly a couple weeks ago. You might remember after Megan Kelly called Mark Levin, and I apologize for the vulgarity, I'm just quoting her directly, Megan Kelly called Mark Levin a micro penis. And in response, Mark Levin called Megan Kelly a deep throat because what? They disagree on Iran policy or something. And I said, "Listen, people, this is not how thought leaders behave. We, uh, commentators are supposed to be thought leaders. We are supposed to debate ideas and policies. We're not supposed to hurl vulgar ad hominems at each other to the extent that no one even knows what you actually disagree on." We touched on that and I said, "This is not a good look for the conservative movement. It's also not constructive to defeat the left." But today, I regret to inform you, and I hate to be the one to point this out. I really do. What's happening in these podcast wars is actually even worse than just that embarrassing sniping that we've seen.
Let me show you what I mean. This actually started on Easter Sunday. I opened X to, um, a post from Candace Owens, which I'll show you in a minute. Um, and that post began my realization of what's actually behind, um, the podcast wars, but this very weird and troubling development that we're seeing in right-wing media. Um, we'll get to the Candace post in a second, too. But first, I want to show this video of Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson, I'm actually going to show you a couple of things that Tucker Carlson said. Um, first of all, Tucker Carlson responded to President Trump's post on Easter Sunday. President Trump had posted on True Social early, early Easter morning. Um, it was a post to Iran and, uh, he basically said, "Open the effing Strait of Hormuz." Um, his negotiation tactic, as you know, and at the end of the post, he said, "Praise be to Allah." Now, obviously, President Trump was mocking the Islamist theocratic regime in Iran, but, and that's pretty obvious to anybody who has been following President Trump's political career. I mean, he's been a politician for 10 years now and a public figure for how many decades. Um, it's not difficult to discern what President Trump means by these comments. Obviously, sarcasm, obviously mocking his enemy, which is an effective tactic. And yet, this was Tucker Carlson's response to it. Take a look.
"Message in our Bible which is you are not God and only if you think you are do you talk this way but it's not just mockery of Islam and no president should mock Islam that's not your job this is not a theocracy we don't go to war with other theocracies to find out which theocracy is more effective. >> No president should mock Islam."
He said, um, well, I disagree. I think, first of all, of course, we are not a theocracy and nobody is trying to, nobody is trying to transform us into a theocracy. We are at war with an Islamist theocracy in Iran. And if you fail to recognize that the Iranian regime is motivated by their fanatical religious beliefs, yes, they're Islamist beliefs, then you won't effectively be able to defeat them and protect your own country. When there's also not a moral equivalency between the Christian religion and the religion of Islam. I talked about this yesterday on the show with Glenn Beck. This is just because the two are religions does not make them equal in any way, but especially morally. Islam is a false religion. Yes, you should mock false religions. You should mock false gods, yes, and you should mock people who are using that as an excuse to try to harm you. So, that's just the beginning. That's just the beginning. That's the first clip of Tucker that I wanted to show you.
The second clip is Tucker, a guest that Tucker Carlson had on his show. And listen, you can, you can make the argument, and I have before. I've had guests who say things on my show that I certainly don't agree with. And sometimes they say things that I don't agree with, and I don't call them out for it in that moment because I generally let my guests speak. Um, but it's not an implicit endorsement of the thing that the guest said that I don't agree with them on. Um, however, this is pertinent because Tucker's guest made a, a very extreme comment and Tucker wasn't silent. He didn't just let the guest speak. He didn't push back. He actually agreed with his comment from his guest, um, about socialism being Christian. Take a look at this.
"I would actually argue, and this is a bold statement, uh, the Democratic Republic is the greatest government experiment in the history of humanity. I, I, I would >> You enjoyed it. >> You enjoyed it. Yeah. So, we enjoy it. We love I love America. You love America. >> I do. >> Capitalism should not be anywhere near Christianity. You think >> Christianity is more and I don't like the word socialist with the, with the weight it carries but Christianity in it is socialism at its core >> non-authoritarian. >> It's, it's the marker to build social capital. You look at that early church of Acts and it transformed Rome within a couple hundred years the greatest superpower of its time to where Constantine was like I'm a Christian hanging out with these dudes. They had no money. They had no buildings. But somehow the love of their neighbor transformed the greatest superpower of its time. That's dangerous. >>"
Tucker agreed with him. Now, this is problematic on many levels. Um, biblically, it's problematic because if you look back in the book of Acts, that was not socialism that happened in the book of Acts. That was voluntary. Socialism is coerced by the government. It is the government seizing the means of production and distribution. There is no private property in socialism, which is also antithetical to the Bible and to, uh, to the gospel, to Jesus. Jesus reacting, you know, to, you know, "render unto Caesar what is his." That is that is actually socialists like to tell you that that is an endorsement of socialism, but it's actually not. It's the opposite. It's Jesus acknowledging that private property exists, that what belongs to someone belongs to someone and it's not collective property. What happened in the book of Acts was a group of Christians voluntarily decided to form a collective, which is fine. That's permissive. You can do that right now in the United States if you want. That is not forced redistribution of wealth. There's a reason why, you know, you pay how many, how much do you pay in taxes every year? Think of that number. How much you pay in taxes? Does that count towards tithing? Does that count as tithing? Well, no, it doesn't because it's not voluntary. You're forced to pay that tax, those taxes, otherwise you'll go to prison. Well, that's not charity. That's the government taxing you, forcing you to do something. Charity is not just a matter of, of being generous and generous, I guess the word implicitly, um, uh, or the description of the word means there's a voluntary aspect to this. Charity is both for the person receiving the charity, but also for the giver, uh, to make that voluntary sacrifice. So, socialism, there, there's no such thing as non-authoritarian socialism. I don't know what Tucker's talking about. Um, but socialism is antithetical to all Christian teaching because it puts in charge of everyone and everything a dictatorial government and restricts our God-given freedom.
This is extremely problematic. This is, it's not just, and I'm not just sitting here trying to lecture you as, you know, a Christian. Oh, this is, this is bad biblical doctrine. It is. It's easily contradicted. Um, if you look, if there's actually a great book that Lawrence Reed wrote called "Was Jesus a Socialist?" It's not even really a book. It's like a booklet, like a pamphlet. It's so good. Highly recommend that you read that if you want to hear the biblical refutation of that. But the point here is this is, and again, I hate to be the one to point this out, but how is this, this interaction between Tucker and his guest, um, promoting socialism in the name of Christianity? How is this materially different than what the left says and what the left does and how the left tries to manipulate people, particularly Christians, into supporting socialism and communism in the name of their Christianity? This is the same thing. The exact same thing. The exact same thing.
And then it gets even worse today. Tucker Carlson reacting to the post that I read at the beginning, President Trump's Truth Social post about "A whole civilization dies tonight." This was Tucker's response. His actually, it wasn't a response to Trump. It was a message that Tucker sent to members of the US military and employees of President Trump's White House. This is what Tucker said. Take a look.
"Work in the White House. We're in the US military. Now, it's time to say no. Absolutely not. And say directly to the president, no. In case you're thinking about using some weapon of mass destruction against the population of Iran, in whose name we liberated Iran, we killed their religious leader for their benefit. Do you remember that? This was last month. Those people who are in direct contact with the president need to say no. I'll resign. I'll do whatever I can do legally to stop this because this is insane. And if given the order, I'm not carrying it out. Figure out the codes on the football yourself."
So, what Tucker is encouraging people of the US military and officials at the Trump White House to do is exactly the same playbook that the left uses. He's encouraging the resistance. And again, I hate to be the one to point this out, but this is, this is a legitimate question. How is this materially different than what the left says and what the left does? So Tucker Carlson, I mean, he sounds exactly like Barack Obama. Like, don't mock Islam. And then he says, he, he agrees, you know, you think he said capitalism shouldn't be near Christianity and agrees that a quote, non-authoritarian socialism is what Christianity really is, even though charity and generosity and love of neighbor are not the same as coerced redistribution of wealth and a government that owns the means of production and distribution, uh, where private property doesn't exist. And then Tucker tells people to resist Trump's orders, actively, actively subverting the president of the United States. Again, please tell me how this is materially different than what the left says and does. And this is not about a disagreement, by the way, policy-wise with the president. I don't care if you have a disagreement policy-wise with the president. I have plenty. I like President Trump and I still have disagreements with him on certain policies. But I don't foment the resistance to undermine him from within his own White House when I don't like a policy that he's promoting.
And it's not just Tucker Carlson. It is not just Tucker Carlson. This is what I'm talking about when I said there is a very weird thing happening in the conservative podcast world right now. It's not just Tucker. It's also, I mentioned Candace Owens' post. We're going to get to that in a second. It's also Alex Jones. Before I show you this video, if you like this episode, please hit that subscribe button and share this episode. This is something we need to make this known what's happening. Alex Jones on his show, and Alex Jones has been a big supporter of President Trump. So, this is in a sense, kind of out of left field. It's again, the word that comes to my mind is just weird. Alex Jones, and please forgive my vulgarity, again, this is a direct quote from Alex Jones, um, is suggesting that the cabinet of President Trump should 25th Amendment his ass. Take a listen.
"Parential threat, how do we 25th amendment has? >> The problem is to get the 25th amendment is harder than impeachment. You have to get two-thirds of the House and two-thirds of the Senate. What do we do? >> Uh tackle Trump uh and and pretend let him pretend he's president and publicly uh report that he's going through a health issue and Vance take over. It literally needs to be something like that. It's that bad. The >> I've known in a long time you've never called for a internal coup before >> ever. Ever. Uh ever. But that's how dangerous this is. That's how risky it is for the whole >> Yeah. If I was the Democrats, I'd stop poking Trump and messing with that only makes it worse. Like you guys need to watch out. This isn't a guy acting like he's crazy. This is real. >> The Well, what's there going to be to take over in 2026 or 2028 if this hits the fan? If if we get it, he's threatening an extinction level event for the people of Iran tomorrow. Do does nobody think there'll be any blowback from that? If he follows through on that, the whole world is screwed. >> You were saying during the break, there's other ways to do this. People need to just not just telling the truth like Susie Walls said, it's time to just not I mean I say what you say what you just said. >> Yeah. Well, legally and constitutionally, the vice president is an independent elected official. The same is in the legally and constitutionally the only oath any member of the military takes, any member of the State Department takes, any member of the intelligence community, >>"
An internal coup. That's the phrase that Alex Jones just used. An internal coup to 25th Amendment his ass. Wait a second. Wait a second. Who, in the past, have been the people who have said, if you disagree with a member of your own party, have a substantive debate on it. Point out why a policy is flawed and make your argument why your policy is better. Who has done that in the past versus who, if they have a policy disagreement with the president, has said, disobey orders, foment resistance, stage a 25th Amendment internal coup, and instead implement socialism because that's Christian? What the heck is happening to people who are supposed to be on our side in the conservative podcast world? Because what we are hearing from Tucker Carlson and this segment from Alex Jones is just leftism. They're revealing themselves to be leftists, and it gives me no pleasure to say that. I don't want them to be leftists. I want them to be on our side.
And then we have the Candace post. This is what I opened X to on Easter Sunday. I, of course, saw President Trump's post about "Open the effing Strait of Hormuz." I saw that actually on the way to mass on Easter Sunday. And I get out of mass, get back in the car with my family, and I open X to see this. This is what Candace Owens posted. She said, "This is a satanic administration. We all realize that satanic Zionists occupy the White House and Congress needs to move to have the mad King Trump removed. All of our lives may depend upon countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell and surrounded by religious fanatics who've convinced him that he's a messiah. We are in uncharted territory. Leaders worldwide need to act accordingly."
Again, I'm going to pose that same question. How is this materially different than what the left says and does? Now, when the left calls Trump Hitler, for example, or they say he's an authoritarian, he's a dictator, he's a king, "No King's Day," he's a king, and they claim that he's going to genocide marginalized communities, they often don't. Some of them do, but most of them often don't directly explicitly call for violence, but their call for violence is implicit in what they say. Because if you portray a politician like Trump to be Hitler, how do you expect people to emotionally react to that? The obvious reaction to that is going to be permission or encouragement or fomenting violence against Trump because if he's Hitler, if he's Hitler, well, dear God, we have to stop him so that he doesn't do what Hitler did. And the left always has plausible deniability because they're like, "Well, we didn't call for violence. We can't help how some people interpret our words." How is this post from Candace Owens any different? A satanic administration. Mad King Trump needs to be removed. Our lives may depend upon other countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell. Leaders worldwide need to act accordingly. This is, if you had to write, if you asked AI to, uh, write for you the play, the template that the left uses to implicitly call for violence, this is what it would produce. Because Candace is going to say, "Well, I didn't call for violence. I didn't say anything should happen illegally." But how do you think people are going to react to this when all of our lives may depend on it? So, what she's instilling in people is fear that you're going to be killed. Well, by who? Mad King Trump, a crazy dictator, uncharted territory. This is unprecedented. This has never happened. You better act before something historically atrocious happens. Leaders worldwide need to act accordingly. Well, what do they need to do? How is this materially any different than what the left does? What has happened to our side? This is leftism. These people, and it gives me no pleasure to say this. I none. whatsoever. These people who we thought were conservative. These, these are all podcasters who actually, well, they currently are, but they used to be the biggest, most influential voices in the conservative movement. They are still the biggest voices in the podcast sphere. Now sound just like your generic, run-of-the-mill leftist. What we are watching before our very eyes is a transition. Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and again, I'm shocked to say this, even Alex Jones, to being a leftist. These are leftist points of view. These are leftist policy positions. These are leftist tactics. These are things that leftists do and say. Again, this is not just disagreeing with a policy that you don't like. I don't care if you disagree with President Trump on certain policies. I disagree with public Republicans vocally more often than I disagree with Democrats because I hold Republicans to higher standards and I expect them to do the things that we elected them to do. I don't expect Democrats to do the right thing. I constantly disagree with Republicans and I constantly constructively criticize the Trump administration because I want them to be the most effective in enacting our shared America First agenda. So, disagree with President Trump all you want. Make your substantive case. I don't care. That's fine. That's healthy. But at the end of the day, I'm still conservative. I still know that conservatives, even conservatives who I only agree with, I don't know, 70, 80% of the time, I still know that they're better than the Democrats. You could be like Bill Clinton. If, if it was a, if it was a competition between Bill Clinton and AOC, I would happily vote for Bill Clinton with an eye roll. But still, you don't become a leftist to resist one policy of the Trump administration that you don't like.
And listen, listen, this is not representative. I will say this is not representative of the American people. Thank goodness. Although it's a totally valid concern, very valid, seriously valid to worry what the downstream impacts of this transition that we're seeing, this, this vocalization, this support of leftist policies like socialism and fomenting a resistance within the Trump White House and implicitly calling for violence, insinuating that we are all going to be, uh, killed by the mad king Trump and so dot dot dot what are you going to do about this? It's very valid to worry what the downstream impacts of this kind of rhetoric will be given how enormous their audience is. But these people, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, um, they essentially tell you, and the person who phrased this exactly was Carrie Pine. She, she was doing a podcast tour a couple weeks ago and she's like, "MAGA is dead. MAGA is dead." But these, these people, whether they're saying it explicitly like Carrie Pine did or whether they're, um, insinuating it implicitly, these people that tell you that MAGA is dead and that their new way, aka become a leftist, I guess, is the only way to be free, um, is not only a lie, it is not what the American people believe. In fact, even CNN, let me show you this, this report from CNN. We'll bring it up here on the screen. This report from CNN. Oh, let's play the video because it shows, um, what the polling looks like ahead of the midterms. And we've been told that the Republicans are going to get blown out of the water because MAGA is totally fractured and dead. But this is actually the reality if you look at the numbers. Take a look.
"This net favorability party ahead at this point midterm of years with the GOP president. In 2018, Dems were up by 12. In 2006 on net favorability, which party you like more? Dems were ahead by 18. Republicans are actually ahead on net favorability at this point by five points. So Democrats are just simply put running behind their previous benchmarks and they need to be running well ahead of them if they want to take back the United States Senate given that math. >> To be clear, both parties are wildly unfavorable right now. However, Democrats are even more unfavorable than Republicans."
Some of these charts. It gives me great pleasure, I have to tell you, to hear CNN say both parties are wildly unpopular, but Democrats are more unpopular. They're more hated. This comes from CNN. You know, it's a big deal. Republicans are not polling-wise on track to get blown out of the water in the midterms. We could still get blown out in the midterms if the Republican base becomes fractured or, you know, if some of the prominent voices in the conservative movement suddenly transition into leftists because they have disagreements with certain policies coming from the Trump administration and the Trump White House. That might fracture the MAGA movement enough to impact the midterms. But maybe, maybe we should just stop for a moment and remember which influencers tried to convince you that MAGA is dead about a week ago and how demoralized you felt. And maybe, just maybe, if those influencers who were peddling that silly lie, um, maybe they, they aren't worth listening to because it's just not true. They told you that to scare you into listening to their commentary, um, which is just leftism. And here's what the result of this is going to be. It's too early to predict what's going to happen with the midterms. But here's what the result, here's a result that is inevitable. The mainstream media is going to have a comeback. Now, I am extremely proud to be part of the coalition of new media figures who decided not to pursue a career within the mainstream media, but instead to risk, uh, your reputation in the media world by instead going instead presenting through alternative media. First, I was on One America News, then I launched a podcast independently. Then I partnered, now I'm partnered with Blaze Media. And I'm extremely proud to be part of that coalition because we provided this parallel economy to the mainstream media. And we were successful, we prevailed against this utterly corrupt, evil monopoly that the mainstream media had. And the reason that we were successful, the reason that we won is because, and this is, this is essentially the only currency, the only thing that we offered that these enormous media corporations didn't have to offer. I mean, we didn't have superior technology. We didn't have the money for the enormous staffs that, that these cable news companies have. But we had one thing that we could offer. We offered the truth. We said, "We will always be upfront with you. We will always be transparent with you. We will never try to manipulate you. We will never try to reshape your mind. We will, we will treat you with the dignity and respect you deserve and we will just make our case that our policies are better than the other side." We won't even pretend to be quote unquote objective because really, does objectivity actually exist? No. Everyone has their viewpoints. They just sometimes try to hide it or usually they try to keep their viewpoints secret and secretly insert the viewpoints into their objective reporting. But our currency was truth, and that's why we won because the American people aren't stupid and they saw that the mainstream media was manipulating them and lying to them and hiding things from them, um, when it wouldn't be politically expedient for the Democrat party if voters knew whatever the mainstream media wasn't reporting, like the Hunter Biden laptop story, for example.
But let me tell you what's happening right now. These people that we're talking about today, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, primarily those two. I hope Alex Jones has not completely surrendered the truth. Although this 25th Amendment his ass internal coup thing is a bit troubling to hear. These people are surrendering what we've won in the new media. They are surrendering our victory, the spoils of that media war back to the mainstream media. Because our value, our value is truth, and not just our moral value. Like our currency is truth. But if you're not truthful, if you're not transparent, if you, if you appear to be paid by foreign governments because you are paring their propaganda, if you become a leftist while still pretending to be a conservative, then conservative media will be sucked dry of all of our value. We will have nothing to offer that the mainstream media doesn't offer. And what will happen in that vacuum is the mainstream media, because they have tons of money behind them still, and the propaganda and the lies and the control and the manipulation that all serves the Democrat party will win again. That's inevitable. What happens in the midterms remains to be seen. But that surrender to the mainstream media, we are watching happen before our very eyes. And by the way, by the way, these people, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, maybe even Alex Jones today, um, they would likely claim that all of the all of the videos and posts that we just, we just analyzed, these, these leftist things that they're saying, that it's just a response to President Trump on Iran. They just disagree so fundamentally with Trump on Iran that, you know, this is the basis for their comments. So, let's go back to that President Trump post about "A whole civilization will die tonight." Let's read that because there's something more than meets the eye to that post that, um, is largely being missed right now.
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Okay, let's go back to President Trump's post about "A whole civilization will die tonight." This is what he posted on Truth Social this morning. I'm going to read it again. He said, "A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change," he's of course talking about Iran, "where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail. Maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out. Tonight, President Trump says one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran."
Well, all of these individuals on the right, these podcasters, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, they would probably claim that all of the content I showed you, their videos, espousing leftist viewpoints, calling for a resistance, calling for socialism, calling for an internal coup, calling President Trump the "Mad King Trump" and saying that our lives are at risk and that foreign leaders should act accordingly. They would most likely claim that those posts are a response to President Trump's policy in Iran, perfectly exemplified by this particular post on Truth Social. But perhaps, maybe, just maybe, the point of President Trump's post is being completely missed. And I confess to you, I don't understand why people who have been in political commentary for as long as Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones and Candace Owens have, why they don't understand Trump at all. We've been watching President Trump every single day for the past, it's now almost 11 years, and that's just his political lifespan. That's not even his entire lifespan in, in, in the public eye. Do you not understand Trump at all? This is, this is like panicking behavior. Some of, some of these, these conservatives, conservatives who are, uh, transing into leftists are being panicked again. No, President Trump is not going to genocide the Iranian people. Yes, I've seen the videos of the Iranian people making these human chains around energy plants, essentially taunting Trump, inviting him, "Oh, if you're going to bomb our energy plants and you're going to kill a bunch of civilians, including women and children and babies." No, Trump is not going to genocide the Iranian people. Like, if you believe that, if you actually think that President Trump is going to nuke the entire country of Iran and kill 90 million people, his threat against the civilization, "A whole civilization dies tonight," is about the infrastructure of the Iranian regime. And yes, that will impact the life of the Iranian people who are afforded some, though not perfectly open, access to the infrastructure the regime enjoys. But his threat about "A whole civilization dies tonight" is about the infrastructure of Iran. And yes, of course, it's a scary sounding threat. It's supposed to be a scary sounding threat. It is called "The Art of the Deal." For those of you who may have studied, taken a political science class in college, you may have heard of what's called "madman theory." Madman theory is a theory of negotiation often used in international politicking where, uh, one of the parties, the actors they call it in political science, one of the actors involved, uh, behaves publicly in a seemingly totally irrational way, attempting to convince the enemy that he actually would do what he is threatening to do. This is the essence of how Trump negotiates. And this is not, this, this is not, by the way, just, um, me applying political science principles to this, this Truth Social post in isolation. This is exactly what President Trump has done in his past 10 years. He is the master of unleashing an admittedly hyperbolic sounding threat, and people being like, "Will he actually do that?" Like, if I did, if I said that, or if you said that, do you think people would believe us? Probably not. But it's only a valid negotiation strategy if people actually believe that you would do it. This is President Trump's strategy, and it's worked every single time he's used it. Do you remember back in, I think it was 2018, when he was negotiating with Kim Jong-un? Do you remember any of those posts that he made? Do you remember any of the things that he said about "Little Rocket Man"? You know, "You have a nuclear button on your desk. I have a nuclear button on my desk that's bigger and works better." Threatening to wipe North Korea off the face of the earth at the push of a button. Like, do you remember that? And do you, do you remember the outcome of that? Did he push that button? No, he didn't. Was there a prolonged forever war with North Korea? No, there wasn't. What happened at the outcome of that negotiation with North Korea was North Korea backed off. And they actually, by the way, their relationship with Iran chilled also. This is President Trump has made similar hyperbolic threats to Iran, teen times in the last 10 years because this is his negotiation style. This is how he negotiates. And the only reason it's successful is because people, and clearly this includes some people in the conservative movements, believe that he will actually do that. Someone once said, and I forget who said this, or I would quote them directly, but this is the essence of what they say. Um, when you're listening to Donald Trump, you should take what Donald Trump says seriously, but you should not take it literally. Do you think maybe that applies to this post on Truth Social? Like, do you actually think at 8:00 tonight, 90 million Iranians are going to be genocided? Do you actually believe that? If you believe that, um, I regret to be the one to inform you that your analysis is not sound. You are falling for President Trump as gullibly as the, as the Iranian regime is supposed to. As a commentator, as a thought leader, and this goes back to the podcast wars, we are supposed to be thought leaders. We are supposed to be able to, um, remove ourselves from the emotion of the situation, if you will, distance ourselves from, uh, from what's happening to observe it and to be able to, I mean, it doesn't have to be objective in the sense that you can have, you can be on one side or the other, but we are supposed to be able to, uh, say, "Oh, I will tell you what tactic this person's using and what intended consequence it will have. I will tell you how the other side is predicted to respond based on both people's past history." Like, we are supposed to be analysts. We are not. But the, but Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and Tucker and, and Alex Jones are like, I picture them sitting here like, "Oh, Mr. Trump, is he going to do that? Is he actually going to take away all my toys?" No parent does that, do they? Of course they don't. But the child believes it because the child is gullible and the child's behavior is impacted accordingly. That's what we're seeing happen here. We're not going to like, do you actually think President Trump is going to bomb the. Here's my prediction. I don't even think President Trump will take out the specific energy plants that he has named because why on earth would you telegraph to your enemy exactly where you're going to hit to give them the opportunity for any kind of defense of it? Donald Trump has a plan of what he's going to do. There's no doubt about that. This is not, this is not going to be an empty threat. But the fact that his entire administration is in lockstep on this narrative. JD Vance echoed this. The Vice President echoed this on Fox News. Brett Bearer said he spoke to President Trump on the phone and the president said, "8:00 PM. It's when it's happening." This is a Jeremy Boring posted this on X, um, this morning. He said, and this was in response to Donald Trump's, Donald Trump's Truth Social post, "A whole civilization will die tonight." This is what Jeremy posted. He said, "Donald Trump has been a national politician for a decade. Anyone still reacting to the guy's negotiating tactics and hyperbole with this sort of hysteria, 10 years in, should be disqualified from political commentary." Jeremy says, "If he nukes Iran at 8 p.m., I'll admit I'm the crazy one. And when he doesn't, this crew, the panickins, is who he's talking about, will admit nothing and they'll find some other comment to be scandalized by." That's exactly right. That is exactly right. There is, we know Donald Trump's history. We know how he negotiates and we know that it's been successful. Like, you can read it in his book, "The Art of the Deal." He tells you how he negotiates. This is how he negotiated in business. This is how he negotiated when he was in the private sector, negotiating not just with other private entities, but as a private citizen negotiating with government. This is how he negotiated during his first term with countries and leaders all around the world. This is how he negotiated with Democrats domestically who were opposing him his first term. This is how he's negotiated his second term. It's not new. It's not novel. This is what he does. And he's one of the only people, by the way, again, as a commentator, as a thought leader, my objective analysis, he's one of the only people who has ever pulled this off. Most people can't do this because when they make comments like that, um, they either get scared of the media reaction from opposition or from their own side and they, they try to clarify. But how could Trump clarify this with you? If he says anything to you, if he says, "Well, I don't mean that I'm going to mass murder the Iranian people." What does that, what does that do? Does it reassure you? Well, who else does it reassure? The Iranian regime. Trump is there is no way he is going to back down from this because he's not talking to you right now. He's talking to the religious fanatics, the Islamists who run the Iranian regime. And he knows that they'll, they believe that he'll do it. And they need to believe that he'll do it. And I'm sure he has some plan to utterly destroy the regime if they don't comply with his demands. But when you're negotiating with a regime that is a religiously motivated death cult regime, you don't just like sit across a negotiation table and say, "Oh, these are our terms. Let me slide them across and you, you red line some things and slide them back to me." That's not how it works in the real world. Some of these commentators need to like get out of the studio and experience real life, including experienced people, experiencing people who are actually bad people doing bad things to good people and how to stop them because that's what President Trump knows how to do. So no, he's not going to bomb the human chains around the energy plants in Iran. If you believe that, you know, President Trump's other skill besides, uh, negotiation is, of course, nicknames. Uh, one of his best nicknames. This is, obviously, "Crooked Hillary" wins all-time best nickname from President Trump. Cannot be defeated. I don't even think it's possible to defeat, uh, that quality of a nickname. But I would contend that the second best nickname that President Trump has ever coined because it is relevant probably every like three months is "Panickins." Panickins. The name that describes accurately and just with such precision people who are ostensibly supposedly we thought they were on our own side, but they panic when he negotiates. They panic and they don't understand how he negotiates and they think that he's gone off the reservation and has suddenly been co-opted. He's either mentally unstable or bought off or totally nuts or he's flip-flopping to the other side and they just lose it. Panicked Republicans, panickins. And that's what we're seeing today. We're seeing panickins go into overdrive. And these panickins, listen, the people who have platforms, whether that's enormous social media followings or a podcast or a show or whatever, if you're a panickin, I mean, honestly, if you are a panickin even once, I don't know why people listen to you. But if you have been a panickin multiple times now and been proved wrong, how is it possible that you have anybody that listens to you? This should also be part of the currency of the new media. We offer truth. We offer transparency. But we also offer being right. And if you're not right, then maybe you should get bumped off the lineup. Maybe people shouldn't tune into your show or listen to your social media. Even if what you're peddling, um, is so juicy and fear-mongering and whatever trying to get clicks, there is a very weird thing happening in the conservative movement, but particularly it's not really the conservative movement. It's the conservative thought leadership sphere, conservative media, the conservative podcast world. These people who we consider to be the most prominent conservative voices are transing into leftists. "No president should mock Islam." "Capitalism shouldn't be near Christianity." "Non-authoritarian socialism is closer to Christianity." "You should resist Trump's orders." If you're in the US military or if you're in the White House and you disagree with President Trump's actions on Iran, how is this materially different than what the left does? They foment the resistance. They, they sow the seeds of manipulation in people's minds so that well-meaning Christians, uh, fall prey to the idea that forced redistribution of wealth, the government, uh, owning the means and, uh, uh, the means of distribution of property is somehow loving your neighbor and that's equal to charity. This is just straight-up leftism. An internal coup against a president who is duly elected by the people because you disagree with him on a policy point. The 25th Amendment is a valid mechanism of the United States Constitution, necessary if something seriously happens to a president so that we actually have a leader in our country without subverting the people's votes and without leaving it to one person to just, you know, bump off the leader of the country. But to suggest the use of that as a mechanism of internal coup versus respect for the people who voted for that president is exactly what the left does. To implicitly stoke fear in people's hearts about the "Mad King Trump." Implying that all of our lives are at stake here. You might die, is what Candace means. You might die. Do you feel fear? Do you want to live? Do you like your life? What about your kids? Leaders should act accordingly around the world. This is an implicit cult of violence. It's what the left does. They always have pliable, plausible deniability. "I never called for violence," she would say. "I never said anyone should do anything illegal." Well, neither do a lot of the leftists who claim that Trump is Hitler and a dictator and authoritarian. You called him satanic. How is that different? How do you expect people to react to that? You know how people react to that. We all react to this, to threats on our lives, in the same way. If you're told you're going to be genocided, it's your human instinct to take proactive measures to protect yourself. That's what half of the trans shooters out there believe. This is a leftist playbook. A radical leftist playbook from people on our own side. What has happened to these people? They're transing into leftists because they don't agree with President Trump's policy on Iran. Or is it something greater than that?
At 8:00 PM tonight, President Trump will make a move, and we're all going to watch it unfold, and it's not going to be the mass murder or the genocide of 90 million Iranians because that's not who President Trump is. That's not who he has ever been. That's irrational to assume that that's what he means by that tweet. It's quite obvious that his post on Truth Social is how he negotiates. He's a hardline negotiator. I actually thoroughly enjoy watching him negotiate because in a sense, it's funny when people don't read his book and know how he negotiates or look at his past history of negotiation and say, "Oh, I see how I can outmaneuver him." And he just outmaneuvers them every time. And it's going to happen. That same thing is going to happen again tonight. And yet, you're not going to hear from these people, just like you didn't hear last year after they told us that President Trump going after Iran's nuclear facilities was going to inevitably lead to World War II. We were told, you know, Tucker Carlson said, "How many tens of thousands of deaths are we going to see in Iran?" Well, none as a result of, uh, taking out Iran's nuclear facilities. But yeah, we did see tens of thousands of deaths from the Iranian regime mass slaughtering people in the street who dared to protest the government. You're not going to hear any retraction from these people who, uh, either implicitly called for violence against President Trump or who want to stage an internal coup or who are actively fomenting a resistance in the White House. You're not going to hear any apology, any retraction. Jeremy Boring was exactly right. You're just going to see them quietly move along to, to pretend to be scandalized by whatever the next comment that Trump makes is, even though they were totally wrong on this. Totally wrong.
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