Adam Silver scheme is finally over as they gift the Knicks a championship

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You go in and do a raid at someone's house, but you don't have an arrest warrant for them. The most disgraceful day. The most disgraceful day in the National Basketball Association. I've been sitting here debating, man. Should I go live? Should I go live? Should I not? This is disgraceful. This is absolutely disgraceful. This is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. And I've watched a lot of corrupt sports. I've watched FIFA. This was worse than Messi getting the dog on World Cup. This was worse than that. This was pure corruption. The same way they didn't call backcourt violation on Avocado in the last game. It don't even matter about the plays. It don't even matter about calling this game. It don't even matter going over it. You knew in the fourth quarter they were going to screw them. You knew it.

Adam Silver should be under arrest right now. He should be led out by the FBI and arrested. This whole season was rigged. I told you in November, I told you at the beginning of the year, they were going to carry this damn bum ass team all the way. We tried to stop and argue against this. I have never in my life seen a more inferior team than the New York Knicks parading around as World Champions. You have disgraced this league and led it to its all-time worst. I've never been so disgusted in my life of a commissioner, and it's all on him. It's his punk ass fault. He wants to bring AI in to make calls 'cause he's watching soccer. He wants to do the damn end-season tournament because of soccer. This ain't soccer, [ __ ]. We don't do what the [ __ ] they do.

Listen, I'm trying. I really am, because people just don't get it. This is the worst fan base in the history of sports. Clearly, they've shown you that. And you, it was too late to walk it back. That's why you squirreled away and stayed out of the camera sight and did not want to be seen when all these fights and fans are getting beat up and they want to know what you're doing to protect the fans. You didn't give a [ __ ] 'cause you had the Knicks the whole time. You didn't care. They don't deserve [ __ ] and now they're one and done. We'll never see this bum ass team again. So now you done paid your dues to Donald [ __ ] Trump 'cause he wanted to win and see the Knicks win a championship in his reign and to keep him off your ass. You cut a deal. This is why I didn't want to do that bet. Once I saw that MetLife Stadium had World Cup, I said, "Oh, this is over." I told you they got to wrap it up. They got World Cup going on. There's no way in hell they're going to have this series continue coming back to New York when they got this World Cup going on. So, they had to wrap it up. This is some corrupt ass [ __ ]. I don't like it and it needs to go. That time is over for. We have seen this corruption at the highest level and the highest scale. I'm sick of it. Other people are sick of it. And it is time to end this [ __ ].

Adam Silver, I am coming to see you. That's the only person I want to talk to is you. You're going to hear me face to face. Whether you like it or not, I am going to pop up while you're eating dinner some goddamn way. I am finding you. I am finding you. I don't give a damn if you're in a pride parade. I'mma be in that piston gear down from head to toe and I'm going to snatch your ass up and me and you going to have a conversation. Any Knicks fan get in the way. I don't care who it is. But this disrespect to the game should never be tolerated under any circumstances. I never saw him hand a trophy to the Knicks. I've never saw it with my own eyes and never will. I will never look at that. I will never look at them crowning a bunch of bums as NBA champions. I will never respect it 'cause they didn't earn it. It was given to the worst city. These are the worst people on Earth and you give them this team, this trophy to celebrate. You won't be able to shut them up now forever. They gonna still talk about this crap knowing the season's corrupt. They don't care. It's New York. They live in the sewer. The whole city's a sewer. So now they sitting over there, they gonna be, "Yeah, we're the champions now." Got to hear this [ __ ] for a whole goddamn year till they asses get kicked out and they going to still be talking about they the champs. We knew what it was. We were against it. We were against it. San Antonio would blank this team four games to zip if they ever played them. And it was real. This whole thing stinks to high heaven. The most corrupt series we have ever seen. I swear if David Stern was alive, he would have choked you out himself for doing this.

See, Adam Silver is not a basketball man. He's a business guy. He's a lawyer. So, he is not going to do what's best for the game 'cause he don't know what's best for the game. He knows nothing about basketball. He probably ain't never dribbled a ball in his goddamn punk ass goddamn stage 18 heaven ass. Oh man, this man has literally single-handedly ruined the NBA. And I can't wait till Monday. I can't wait. The reason I can't wait is 'cause I want to find out what's going on with this investigation. And I say look at the whole finals, the whole playoffs. Corruption at all levels. They got to do something about this magnet ball. We have got to get involved. This game has been reduced down to the lowest form it could ever get to. When you have an electronic basketball. Now he wants to bring in electronic codes to say what was inbound and out of bounds. This is what happened when you let a lawyer come in and do what they do. Yeah. Game four told you there is no game. All of these games was basically telling you they weren't. The Knicks did not play well in no game and one and five. They didn't play well in none of the games. San Antonio was beating their ass in every game. This is disgusting. This is absolutely disgusting. I was with people today that was from Dallas and another person that was from Iowa and another person from Ohio. They was all sitting there watching the game on the thing and I was going back and forth. I'm like, well, they were like, "Spurs has got this one there, man. Where it go?" I'm like, "This is over tonight." I hate the Knicks and they f. They hate them, too. They were like, "Are they not even Spurs fans?" They hate to see what the Knicks fans was doing to Spurs fans. So, they hate the Knicks, period. It's just a all-around universal hate for the Knicks. The guy from Ohio said they cheated Cleveland. And he didn't he didn't think that game was fair, the way they refereed that game and called it. So, he was he was from Ohio. He was just like, "I didn't like the way they did that one. I don't think they should be here. They're not good enough to sweep the Cavs." I was like, "Wow, somebody else see it." But they had to wrap this up because World Cup was coming and they knew that was going to take all of their viewership, everything away from them. So, they had to wrap this up in five. I wish I'd have saw it earlier. I wouldn't have made the last bet. I saw it too late and I said, "Well, since I already made it, I'm going just stick with it. People going to still watch like sheep no matter what." I know I'm debating on if I'm going to watch next season. I really am. For my Pistons, I want to watch it, but I think I'm boycotting all Knicks games next season. All Knicks games season next season is over. It it's done. And I I really want to blame Fox, but I really can't blame Fox, you know, because they really rigged him. You know, when they got a rigged magnet ball going on, it's it's kind of hard to blame one individual, but you got a commissioner out here who's running the game into the ground. Running it straight into the ground. Now he's replaced LeBron and got a younger LeBron, more bumier, to be the guy putting on this silver slipper. This is why they wanted me to shut up 'cause I've been talking about this all season. How corrupt this plan was, the script, all of it. Tear down New York. New York's already torn down. What more they going to do? You're already tore it up for no reason. This is disgraceful. Absolutely disgraceful. After all this madness to rig everything for the New York Knicks, they took everybody out of the Knicks' way. Dude, get away from. They took everything away from me. They took everything away. Everything of importance. Everything which made this game what it is today, they destroyed it. And you see the Pistons rise from the ashes to give you real basketball. And they said, "Oh, no. We can't put the Knicks up against this. This is too much fun. Oh, this is just too much for them. This team is too good. We We got to do something. Let's screw them out of it over some political business." All of this was business 'cause that's all he is is a lawyer. They cheated the Detroit Pistons out of the playoffs to save the New York Knicks. Plus, they didn't want to give them the $14 million per game that they were entitled for making it to the Eastern Conference Finals. All because they decided to give the game away for free to their fan base on a home app. So that the citizens can see Adam Silver wanted them blacked out. They got to go to the game. If not, watch it on Amazon Prime or NBC Peacock. I don't want them watching it for free on another app. It's not his call. He's only the commissioner. See, every owner can choose to do what they want to do. Adam don't like it, especially with the rights deal. So, Phoenix Suns, oh, y'all want to get a game away for free? Bye-bye. Anybody else who have any bright ideas about giving away the game for free? You're out of here. They don't want to see you no more. You see how they do you? You see how important you're not to them? Everybody in the world, they knew they wanted to see the Pistons and the Knicks go head up for the Eastern Conference Finals. Nobody cared about Cleveland. They wanted to see Detroit and the Knicks. Finally, the team that gave them problems all year, but they said, "No, we can't have that because of business." Then you cut a deal with Donald Trump so that he would come to the game. You're the only fool that came out and said, "Oh, I think this is a good idea. I mean, the NBA is bringing everyone together." Nobody want to get together with that [ __ ]. Nobody wants to be together with him. The whole New York showed you how much they did not want to be together with him. But you do. Your corrupt ass has ruined the game. Corporatizing the game is taking the fandom out of it. That's why you stay quiet for the riots. No words from Adam Silver. Everybody else talking. You staying quiet for the riots. You notice that? Oh, no we don't. I don't even hear that song. I ain't even I I know it exists, but I've never heard it. But they only want to do something because the Pistons got a song that's a hit. You know, the Pistons want again. Yeah. They they they hate that song 'cause it's a hit. Stay quiet for the riots, but came out praising Donald Trump. Then everybody want to get mad. Everybody want to go out and get mad at at Charles Barkley and Draymond for not saying nothing. Don't get mad at them. Don't get mad at Draymond Green and Charles Barkley. And they didn't say nothing about they didn't mention Trump. That was the best part of it. They did not mention Donald Trump at all in their telecast. That was their silence spoke volumes. Their silence said everything that needed to be said. Their silence said it all. By them being quiet, that told me all I needed to hear right there. There was nothing more that needed to be said because they said it right there. There was no need for disdain by them not talking about it. Why should they risk their job to get fired when they know what this is already? They said, "Hey, we we already know what this is." I agree 100%. Don't Don't open your mouth to say nothing you don't need to. It's hurtful. It's disgraceful. Y'all don't deserve a link. Look, society has been in a situation where we want to see, we're tired of being controlled. We're tired of it. It is this assimilation, all this garbage. We are so tired of this. I am sick of it. I'm so sick of corruption in every form of this city. So all of y'all people who was saying that Charles Barkley them should have spoke up about Trump. No, they shouldn't have. Y'all should have boycotted the Knicks if y'all felt that way. Donald Trump is with the Knicks. Boycott them. But y'all too stupid. So therefore, you going to be stuck with Trump. But you want somebody else to make the sacrifice, but you ain't willing to do. You should stop watching the NBA after tonight because of what they just did. You should boycott the NBA because of what they just did. That's what's going on. You should be boycotting for what they just did by them putting that championship on the New York Knicks. That's boycott offense right there alone. This whole team should be boycotted immediately. I am definitely boycotting the Knicks. Unless they play the Pistons, that's it. I'm not caring about the Knicks at all. They are done. The NBA is done with them anyway. They pulled the agenda off. They did what they wanted to do. Now it's time for the people to respond and stand up. Well, it's time. It is absolutely time. Let him come. I don't care. Let him come. Come one, come all. This whole thing has been rigged. Adam Silver should be arrested, put in cuffs, thrown in the back of a damn wagon, never to be seen from again. Go back to being a lawyer. You was a crap lawyer. That's why you were here all together. The script was in place for New York this year. We got us on. You ain't lying. The script was here. I have the script. I've been telling y'all the whole time I was fighting against the script. I was fighting for the sport. I'm not going to fight with corruption. I'm always going to fight against it. I don't like corruption. I feel bad for every team that played the Knicks. They got screwed. Everybody say, "Well, it's entertainment purposes only." I'm not entertained. I want my money back. How about that? Times 600. 'Cause I'm coming for it all, buddy. I'm suing you. And you're going to have to prove that the league is on the up and up. You might got all those judges in New York, but I already know it's a script. Look, I got the script on my phone. Hold on. Where's my script? Can y'all see that script? They had it going seven games in their script. Game one, game three, game four, game five, game six, game seven. They had the Knicks winning in seven games. But it's World Cup. Can't Can't bring back New York. Got to wrap it up. So they altered the script to speed it up. This is so hurtful. This is hurtful. This is extremely extremely hurtful. I hate corruption, man. I hate it with an all-time passion. Don't Don't cheat for me to win. You know, I don't need it. Don't cheat for me. I want to earn it. Like Kobe Bryant wanted to earn it. Isaiah Thomas wanted to earn it. Michael Jordan wanted to earn it. Don't cheat for me. Don't cheat for me. I want to earn it. I want it to mean something. If they have carried us to a world championship, I would not be happy. If we played like crap and they just kept carrying us, they'd be like, "It's the Pistons, though. We won." I'd be like, "I don't Uhuh. I don't like corruption, bro. I don't like Do not cheat for me. Do not cheat for me. I don't like corruption in no way, shape, or form. Adam Silver should be arrested. He should be in handcuffs right now because he's a criminal. He was a scumbag lawyer and he's a scumbag right now. He's ruined the NBA. He's turned into a total corporate event and a corporate affair and I'm suing him. This is the worst the NBA has ever been in life. This is disgusting. How could y'all stand for this? Do you love the game? Do you love basketball? See, that's the problem here. I don't think people love the game like I do. Thank you for the gifted membership, bro. I appreciate it. I don't think y'all love the game 'cause how they let a disgusting city like New York walk away with a championship? They have a few good people in New York. It's a few, you know, All Ball, Flea, Fabian, and probably three more. But other than that, that's about it. I don't care about the money. It's about the principle. I don't care about the money. It's the principle. The Knicks are a better team. The Knicks are a better team than the Spurs. Really? Do you really believe that? If they were a better team than the Spurs, they wouldn't be getting their ass kicked in every single game they've played against the Spurs. The Knicks got outplayed by the Spurs in every goddamn game of the series, including tonight. They had to wrap this up because of World Cup at MetLife Stadium. Yeah. That's why there's no game six. They had to wrap it up in five. Do you know what the traffic would be like if they got World Cup and the NBA Finals game going on at the same damn time? Something had to give, doesn't it? So, you knew what was going to happen tonight. I was just being honorable. I could have just got out of the bet, but I said, "No, I know Brazil played today, but World Cup is still going on." Mr. role. Do you know what happens in New York when World Cup is going on? Have you been around a World Cup situation? There's no room for the NBA during World Cup. You know this, right? Do you know the NBA always wraps it up when World Cup is around? They're getting the hell out of the way of World Cup. That's in Jersey. Oh my god. You act like Jersey is that far away. It's in Mill. It's in Jersey. Do you know what's going to happen in New York City? Was you outside today? Did you see how World Cup was? Did you see how everybody was on the streets? Did you see how everybody is going? What do you think is happening here? Just look outside your house. You going to have all these people from Brazil all through your country. I mean, through your city, you know, I mean, New York is a gumball pot mix full of everybody. And this Trump loving ass needs to be arrested. Yeah, they bought the championship and they give a a a slime ball like Adam Dolan a NBA trophy. It's disgusting. It just shows you how bigoted, racist, everything there is. New York represented all of it. The city, nobody wanted Trump around. And look what happens. Look what happens. Adam Silver should be arrested. Everyone, the board of governors, everybody in the NBA should be arrested. If there's a betting line, then they they got to remove the betting line. If this thing is entertainment and it's only for entertainment, then remove it. We don't need it. We don't need a garbage team like this representing us in no sports period. If it's entertainment, get away from it. Y'all claim y'all don't like Trump, but yet you're supporting the Knicks. That's supporting Trump. Adam Silver is a scumbag and I don't I don't care to ever see him nowhere besides this meeting that we're going to meet up and have this conversation. Other than that, I don't even want to see him. It would be a justified arrest. Like my man used to say, good trouble. That's good trouble. I'm fighting the cause. So if I go down, it will be for the right cause and eliminating or bringing the spotlight to so the whole world find out how corrupt this system is. Exposing the magnet ball to the world. That's what we need more of. We need more people that's going to stand up. Y'all had this guy supporting Donald Trump, moving all in these weird ways. Adam needs to step down just for another Adam Silver to step in his place. No, we need somebody that understands the game and realize that it's gotten so far out of control, it almost looks like a goddamn video game. There's no more traveling. There's no more such thing as a pivot. You can just switch pivots anytime you want when you're down in the post. It is terrible. This game has become a disgrace. It's become an utter disgrace. You got players that have no skills whatsoever. Five-time All-Stars in the NBA. It's disgusting. It is absolutely disgusting and it's embarrassing to the game. That's why real NBA players don't watch it. Michael Jordan don't watch the NBA. He could give a damn about who won tonight. And he the best player they have that's out there. Isaiah Thomas watched the game because he gets paid to. Other than that, these guys don't want to watch this [ __ ] because it's not basketball. Don't be shocked. It was bought and paid for. This was an agenda play. I told you at the beginning of the year, this what they wanted to do because these bums ain't won nothing. They want to make a storyline out of it. And now they've been gifted a championship trophy that they didn't earn. Unlike Denver, unlike everybody else, this team didn't even earn it and they gave it to them. Hell, that would be better. Go support Chinese basketball. No problem. It would be better than this. It would be better than supporting a garbage team that can't even beat a Chinese basketball team. You put this Knicks team out there with the Chinese basketball player, they run rings around. This team's a joke. And this is what we got to deal with now. It's painful. It really hurts my chest to see something like this happen. And y'all got the perfect puppet. It's disgraceful. I'm disgusted. Of course, he's a puppet. He's going to play his role. And now you'd engage his puppet a championship. And all of this to validate that in-season crap that nobody respects. Now, now this clown is going to be, "Wow, they've won the the NCE cup and the same two teams are playing each other in the finals and then the team that won the in-season tournament also won the championship." See, that means you know the best team, we have the best team in the in-season tournament. Yeah. Isn't it great? Like, no, it isn't. I don't care about next year. If it ain't about basketball next year, it's out of here. It's boycotted. That's That's it. Every Knicks game is boycotted. When they play the Pistons, that's when you'll see it. But other than that, they boycotted. They cut off. They're cut off. I will continuously tell you the truth about this bum ass team 'cause after this season that's it. It's over. So you tell me you don't see nothing corrupt that happened in this series. You didn't see any corruption in this series. You don't believe that they wrapped this thing up because World Cup. You think that the Knicks just won five games out of four against the San Antonio Spurs? That what you believe? You believe that? I'm going to have my meeting with Adam Silver and it's going to go down 'cause it needs to happen. Me and Adam Silver need to have that conversation. This is the >> immediately after the game, this is what happened. People responded. >> Disrespectful day in the history of professional sports and definitely for the NBA. This is at an all-time low. They finally accomplished their goal. This whole rigged season so that they can give a championship to the Knicks. All for political game reasons and for money. We knew they were rigged to the this whole thing 'cause they needed to be completed because of the World Cup going on in New York at MetLife Stadium. Uh they couldn't have the series continue. They had to wrap it up. >> You can hear the anger. Why San Antonio was done in the way they were. Uh I was fighting against the agenda, but it's up to you the people. Uh you know that this thing is fixed is corrupt and the Knicks organization is the hub of it. So next season, boycott all Knicks games, if not the whole league, because this can't stand no more. People are losing good money, wasting good money to be ripped off to promote mediocre garbage teams. I I I this is probably the worst team that have ever won an NBA championship that they gave it to. It's disgraceful. Adam Silver, I'll be seeing you very soon. Yep. And that's how it is. That's how it is. Now, I done paid so many bets. I think my my bank is froze. I got to wait. I got to pay off some more bets. Thank you. Look, he telling you, man, it's definitely clearly fixed. Y'all must be dumb, deaf, or blind or from New York, which means they are dumb, deaf, and blind. Telling you, it's obvious. It's like everybody can see what it is. This is the most disrespectful day in the history of professional in the history. >> Dude, everybody is sending me I appreciate it. Y'all sending me my own clips. This is the >> Everybody sending me my own clips. >> I still haven't gotten any rest from yesterday. It's disgusting. >> This was after game four to take this case to sue the National Basketball Association. >> They tried to hide this from y'all. >> I mean, it yesterday was very evident that this game is rigged. This magnet ball that they're using is ruining the game of basketball. And most of you are so blind you don't even see it. Y'all remember this from the third quarter. Look at that. That's ridiculous. A basketball is not going to do that. Shot with that type of with that type of spin and speed on the ball. This destroys physics altogether. Look at it go once again. >> Watch it. >> And it just dies down to a crawl. >> Okay, that's one. >> That's one. >> Let's continue. Now we got this uh avocado shot that's going to come. Here it is. Right. Look at this. Now look at this shot here. Look at that. We We've got the This This is getting me more upset as I'm looking at it right now. Yeah, >> it's getting me more upset. >> Yep. >> Just looking at it. >> I'm pissed. I can I can see the anger in my eyes. I'm so pissed. Don't disrespect the game like that. >> Town's foot is on the line. >> Foot on the line. >> They never review it. They never fix it. And they give them credit for a three. And they never show it on the replay angle because they knew he was on the line. >> He stepped on the line. They knew it. They didn't care. >> Here it is. Right. You think you're going to see it, but >> nope. >> What does the cameraman do? Cut off the feet so you can't see that he's stepping on the line. Carl Anthony Towns very next possession. Look at this. Let's count. One, two. Okay, >> that's his pivot foot. >> One, two. That's his pivot foot. He slides. He slides his damn feet. Then let's see what he does. Now this foot's off the ground. This is his pivot foot. Let's see what happens next. >> Jumps off the other foot. >> Off the other foot, lifting that foot up, which is a travel. >> Ref is right there. Then they let this fluky guy get this shot. San Antonio did play a very egregious basketball game in the second half. Um, but they had a lot of help against them. A lot of help. Just so happened in one quarter all of a sudden all of this weirdness takes place. Look at this. Come on. I know you guys don't understand. Wilson has a basketball. Once the NBA switched their basketballs from Spalding to Wilson, Wilson uses electronic technology in basketballs that they can be able to control the ball where it can spin off or they can pull shots in. And this has altered our game of basketball. It has ruined everything about the sports. This is why they can allow prop bets as well as other bets that take place. Legalize the gambling because they can control it. It is a problem within the league. That's why we have inferior teams such as the New York Knicks representing the league and they're being held a bunch of Rudy's on the basketball team. A 500 ball club at best being touted as one of the best teams to represent the East. It's trash. It has ruined the game and the the complete fabric of the sport is lost and I'm suing and I until they're going to have to open up all the books to show us everything to prove that this is a legit game. And I challenge them to do it 'cause we have the evidence showing that this is corrupt and that this is legit a problem that this technology do exist and they're using it. That's right. They're using it right in front of our face and we're sitting here acting as if it's real. And I'm looking at it. You've watched how many games did y'all watch? You mean to tell me you don't see a magnet ball? You don't see nothing weird with the balls going in? I don't do prop bets no more. I been stopped prop bets. Once that stuff start happening like that, I'm out. It's too volatile because you'll have a guy who gets he got seven and a half assists, right, for the whole game. He gets five in one half and can't get two for the rest of the game. It's like what? He has seven and a half to have five at halftime. It It's prop bets, man. They are positioning this game behind money. The whole thing is corporate now. They don't care about the game. They don't care how it makes it look. It ain't about the best team playing the best. They don't care about that no more. They don't care about basketball. It's only about let's go corporate. How much money can we get for this? Well, let's push this New York thing. Let's start putting celebrities that don't even watch the Knicks front row. Most of these people live in California. They ain't New York people. They call it the smart basketball. If you look it up, whatever name they want to give it, whichever name they want to give it, it's there. People see it, they know it exists, but still will watch the evidence and still go, "No, not my NBA." I'm in. >> It is baffling. Baffling. And New York people, we understand. Okay, we're not trying to convince you of anything. You know it exists. We know you're not going to care. You will take it if they put guns on everybody and just stole the trophy and walked out. You don't care. We get it. We understand your psychology. You are from New York. This is your thing. You're never going to see the corruption. There's only a few of you that are in any good whatsoever. He said, "Everything that Cino saying about these sports balls is public knowledge, folks. Look it up. That's all they got to do. He said it's all public knowledge. Look it up. They're walking around with a trophy that should belong to the Detroit Pistons. But we we can't we can't do that because we're not part of the agenda of the NBA. The agenda was the New York Knicks. So we were fighting against the agenda. I will never support the New York Knicks in anything. That team is dead to me. Completely disrespectful. There's no need to go over game five. It would only anger anybody who loved the sport of basketball. If you love basketball, you're boycotting this. Go watch high school. Go watch the Go watch basketball in China. I'm watching all different type of basketball. Anything outside of This utterly disgraceful. Uh, the over and back call by Brunson, you knew what that was. Come on. When when you stop lying to yourself and start accepting reality, then you'll you'll know better. I think it was disgraceful to to Wimi. It was disgraceful to the Spurs. It was just utterly disgraceful what you saw tonight. I'm ashamed of the league 'cause this was a league I loved. I loved the NBA. I used to love it back in the 80s and 90s where you knew you had a game and the best teams were being represented. It was uh quite disrespectful to me. I'm still disgusted. All I All I'm seeing is flashbacks in my head. Yo, >> I still haven't gotten any rest. We got a This is it. >> Tony Allen best. Dear NBA, dear Adam Silver, I am suing you. I am suing you for corruption. What you just did in this game with that magnet ball. I'm going to investigate you and I'm getting a multi-million dollar lawsuit, if not a billion dollar lawsuit against you for what you just did in this next game, in this game for. I am suing you. I'm suing you for every goddamn dime the organization has. I'm I'm suing. This is criminal. There's enough evidence in this game right here of corruption on the largest scale. All of y'all should be arrested. That's how I feel, man. So disgusted. I'm disgusted, dude. Like like to the core. My words is getting disturbed. Now, we Those who didn't know or understand or tried to make anyone understand what was going on. It's so disgusting, man. Um, so disgusting. Uncle Claude, you're a good one in New York. I know you're happy and it's cool be it's it's cool for y'all to be happy because you know I guess if you come from a loser city you know you know there's no greatness about your city at all except for the people that's in it like you know we got Nas we got LL Cool J from there so 50 Cent was there so other than that you Well, New York has changed. Like now it's, you know, it used to be a sewer. Now, now it's like toxic waste. New York is not New York no more. It's just done. The people now is all these fruity dances and wins and it's just slop. So the of course the players and the teams that represent them are going to be slop. I'm I'm just so hurt right now 'cause I love this game so much. I will never watch a highlight of the Knicks championship. I won't see it ever in my life. It's that disgusting. There's almost no words for this, man. What the league has decided to do is just make us look like guinea pigs. You said I looked it up and it said magnet balls don't exist. Are you serious? You must signed up to my Patreon? 'Cause if you was on my Patreon, you would know it exists. What the world you talking about? I gave it to y'all for free on the Patreon. You see it right there? The Wilson NBA official game ball is released. Right. The bag doll is now exposed. Are you kidding me? Matter of fact, for all y'all looking for the information on the magnet ball, here is the patent right here. See, the patent tells you 'cause y'all ain't going to be able to look it up and see the patent. Look up the patent. There it is right there. But a whole basketball shot determination system. Want to know what it look like? Who is currently assigned to Wilson Sporting Goods Company? Wow. Who makes the basketballs for the NBA now? Is it Is it Wilson? So, why would Wilson need a basketball shot determination system and a portable electronic device? Why would they need this for a basketball which just has air? All a basketball need is air, right? So when you try to tell me it don't exist and there's patents for it, it exists. You think I'm going to be sitting here getting mad on something that don't exist? I ain't getting mad over Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. There is an Easter Bunny. But you want to get any closer? Let's get closer. Let's go to the images of it. They have it broke down to a science shot by shot. So we know they gifted this to them. So when you say the magnet ball don't exist, it does. They can call it whatever name they want to call it. We know what it is. Look at the other technical things. They got all the mathematics. Oh, look at this. This is where the release of the shot is from. The release rim goround. No net shots. And this is for rim goround 521 here. Rim goround spikes. Look at these spikes numbers showing where the rim goround and everything else. They monitoring it all. No, we wanted them to beat the corruption. How is it a reach talk trends? If it's a patent, that means it's a patent. That is like a license. You own it. You own the technology. What are you talking about? This is a patent. This is the technology to do all of this. They've been they've been working on this since 2014. Remember, they didn't even have a deal with the NBA until 2021. So all the technical people could figure out how it all works from there. They give you descriptions on what it all can do. And you see Wilson is the people that own it. Worldwide applications right now. See, what it was originally supposed to be for was for special needs kids. You know, when they're trying to dribble the ball, you want to help them get the shots up and stuff to help the ball go in. They track it for special sports with basketball. The NBA said, "The hell with that. We need that in our league now. We can control who gets assists, rebounds. Now we can open up sports betting 'cause we can control the game. These are patents for a sports performance system with ball sensing. Oh, the NBA going to start shutting the video down now 'cause they don't want you to know about it. They want you to stay in the dark. Wu Tang. It's Wu Tang for life. But there's no more Wu Tang no more. There's Wu Tang right now got on painted rainbow nails. You know it's New York is done for, man. Nah, I'm just too down. I don't want to see bumps in I don't want to see any of this, dog. You know why? 'Cause I've already seen it done. I've already seen it done. And I saw what this bastard did to Lee. We saw what he did. We saw what he did with putting Adam Silver Slipper in charge. We saw what they did. We knew this already. The thumbnails been made. We We knew what they were plotting. This is why the NBA was against us 'cause they we weren't we were exposing them. They got to deal with YouTube. So the course they going to want to shut all of it down. They want to slow all of it. They cannot have it this way. It's disgraceful for them. It hurts my heart to the core. I have to see this. I'm like at the point of breaking down. That's how upset I am. Anybody would be sick, man. Anybody would be sick right now to their core, their stomach. This is the most disgraceful moment in professional sports. I I I've never seen the NBA put at an all-time low. This is an all-time low. This is disgusting. It's hurtful 'cause it's embarrassing to me. Yep. That's what I told you, Kenzo. The script is laid. The script was already laid. I said at the beginning of the season, they want to put these Knicks there. We cannot allow this. We cannot allow this. This is all corrupt. This is beyond anything. Uh, I'm I'm just dejected right now. There's There's There's no excuse for this. There's no way in a million years people just don't get it. They don't understand. Um, I love the game of basketball. I love this game. And when you love the game so much and you see it corrupted to this point, it's it's almost unwatchable. At certain parts of the degree. You know, you you want to always be front and center amongst everything that's happening. When you're in a situation where no one's going to be able to uh recognize what it is that you do and what they could actually, you know, catch you for or catch up to something that you've done. You know, this is only going to ruin the league and make it awful for the future. You know, I I would not encourage anybody to follow the NBA anymore. I I would it it is hard to even say something like that 'cause you love the sport so much that when they disgrace you and they play in your face and they start altering the game. Now, we all know the ref's going to do bad calls to give certain teams victories. We know that that happens. But when you start using political um advantages and situations and bringing in presidents of the United States to come watch the game 'cause, you know, this is a big marketing ploy knowing that he's not even loved in his own hometown. He's hated here. And you bring him to the game 'cause you you want him to love the game and have this corrupt guy on your side. I'm glad I don't watch the NBA anymore. I feel good. That's the way I That's the way we got to do it, man. I mean, to me, that's the way it needs to go down. This is why I covered the Knicks 'cause they had to fall. I had to exploit the agenda all season long. They was like, "Why you cover the Knicks more than you cover?" 'Cause they were the agenda. They were the corruption. They had to fall. The whole world has to see it on display that I was calling it all along all season. They wanted to push this team. They were going to have Luca and LeBron play the Knicks. I told I told them that they wanted LeBron's last run, but he wasn't going to win. And I said, I'mma have to root for LeBron. And I'mma hate it. But they going to want LeBron, his last run is against the Knicks, and it's going to be, well, little LeBron them win and beat the Knicks and LeBron retire with a championship. But nope, he was going to lose in the finals again. And I was like, if it's against the Knicks, I would have to root against it 'cause the Knicks is the most hated team 'cause that team is complete garbage. There's no superstar on that team whatsoever. Bunch of damn role players and garbage players and he sat there and and crowned them. You know, I'm just Oh my god, I can't believe this. This is disgusting. This is absolutely disgusting. Yeah, boycott of the NBA is coming next year. I I can't do it. I can't. I'm Pistons games only. That's it. I I can't I can't do the Knicks no more. I can't I can never endure this season all over again. This is the worst season probably ever. Then you turn around and get that fool a championship. How? Why? He should be in jail, man. This dude should be in jail. Lock him up. He should be arrested. You get his clown a championship. He ain't done nothing. You give a loser city like this a championship. This is disgusting. Unbelievable what's going to happen next season. I I really don't give a [ __ ]. Um, next season they're gonna give it to Wimi. You know, Wimby will be back. They'll they'll give Wimby then they the Spurs will be untouchable then, you know, after they 'cause they owe him. That's what the NBA does. They say, "Oh, well, we owe them." You know, you know, we needed Shaq and Dwayne Wade to win. So, we owe the Spurs. I mean, the Dallas Mavericks, we screwed them. So, we'll make it up to you down the road. We'll put the Heat back in there again. And there you go. It's time you guys get it 'cause we know Dirk's old. About to retire. It's disgusting. Yeah, they don't know about what they talking about. That's why they never That's why they never excel. They never get to the level that they want to 'cause of this corruption. I will never see a Knicks highlight from a championship ever. I will never sit there and watch that. I I'm just it's bothering me. But New York I I understand them, you know. They don't they don't understand the game. You know, and when you don't understand the game, uh, you know, this is what it is. You

Don't love basketball because you're not used to basketball. Yeah, you're not used to basketball. New York, they, they're, they like, they don't understand the game. Like Chicago always had the best players. We, we come, we like the NBA used to be full of players that come here. They recruit players that come to Chicago from Chicago, from high school. The whole 80s, 90s, we, we controlled basketball, you know, great basketball players that come from New York, it's like non-existent, you know, it was like non-existent. That's why Patrick Ewing was such an anomaly. Like, wow, a great player that actually comes from New York. You know, y'all used to get smoked. Anywhere y'all go, y'all get smoked. So, Chicago had all the best players. That's why the best player of all times, the greatest player of all time, Isaiah Thomas, comes from New York. Nope. Chicago, right? Yeah. DePaul, you had Eddie Johnson, you had everybody. Terry Cummings, everybody came from this city. All the hoopers used to come from here. We used to smoke New York plays easy because they couldn't play. All they know how to do is play jailhouse ball, right? Mark Jackson, a guy who couldn't dribble. Y'all got smoked every time y'all play.

So, the NBA was like, "Something's wrong here. Why does Chicago have the best system for basketball? How are they so knowledgeable?" Because guys in Chicago were schooled better. You had Indiana, you had DePaul. They actually had coaches that teach you the game. So the guys who had talent on the street levels, those guys basketball games on the on the hardtop. Guys don't play outside on the hardtop no more. And had run those fives. Those fives was just as important as anything you've ever seen. Doc Rivers used to go up against Isaiah Thomas. Doc had his five. Zeke had his five. And those games were big. They were better than the NBA. They'll be packed. People watching them play. You don't get that no more. So, you don't get the core of the game. It's all lost. You guys have lost the fabric and foundation of what this is all about. So, you don't know what's good or bad because now they're going to magnetball everything for you and then you gonna be around here praising mediocre talent. See, I'm trying to save y'all from that. I'm trying to save y'all from being led by lies and fake activity. It's like this. The NBA is gone AI now. Everything in the NBA is AI, just fake. Fake as [ __ ]. It's ridiculous. Yeah, but it's going to drive people away. You know, they're manufacturing the game. People are not all stupid. Like, I'm not the only one that sees that something's wrong here. No.

Well, today's basketball players, yeah, because there's no real education on the game anymore like it used to be. Marquette had a system where they were teaching players and that's why they were being taught the game. DePaul lost its, you know, mystique once the Meyers like left. There were no real teachers of the game anymore. The schools that like Western House closed, uh, you know, so there was no real basketball coaches anymore. It's just like it is now with a AEI, I mean, AAU. You got a bunch of fanboys who just got some money on the side and want to be a coach and they don't know the game at all. They don't know skill set. They don't know what to teach you because they hadn't been taught by anybody. They just like the game. So now they feel they can coach. And then they got a kid that love to play basketball. So now he want to coach. Are you kidding? They put all of these scenes. This was like bad theater. None of these games were good to watch. Wasn't entertaining at all to see a team get completely ripped off. Right. If Kobe Bryant, Kobe Bryant didn't even watch the games no more. He didn't care once he retired. He did not care. He only showed up because his daughter had interest in going to the games and stuff. Other than that, he was like, "I'm done. Like, I'm I don't even have a desire for it anymore." And it was not at this level yet. I can only imagine him watching the game right now while it's in this state. Well, that wrote a lot of people's recipe, recipe for disaster, you know. It was just over from that point on. There was nothing they could do, bro. This is this is what they want, you know. They want everybody to praise this team, bro. Even though they garbage, they want everybody to look at the Knicks as world champions. Yeah, they one and done and and that's it. It's over. They done this crap. They they gave them their championship now, you know, they got to they going to move on from it. This was all political business move, you know, and the worst thing they could have ever done for the league.

So, like I said, the playoffs was horrible. They had to get out of the way of the World Cup and they had to wrap it up because you think about all the money the NBA got to spend to what? Lose his money to the World Cup. What you think they going to do with these international people? You think they going to tune in to watch the goddamn NBA game over the World Cup? The NBA know who the boss is and they going to get out their way. They was going to wrap this [ __ ] up. Well, they weren't going to have the Pistons lose to the Knicks because then they would have had me right now in jail. They'd be like, "See, no, man. He's still serving his sentence for that Adam Silver thing." Oh, I will be talking to Adam Silver this year. Yeah. Well, yeah, it is what it is. You know, the pain never subsides. You know, when you feel like an injustice is taking place, you know, like you've been done wrong. Yeah. I mean, that's what that's what it is, man. You know, you you try and you strive and you work hard and you want to see the best team play the best. I don't want to see mediocre talent being held up on a pedestal. You know, now you've embarrassed the game by doing that. If the mediocre talent prove that they're good enough to win and do that, then I can honor that. I can't honor this this this cheating. I can't honor that. You know, that's to me, you disgraced the game with this. You absolutely disgraced the game with it.

What's good, JD? >> Yo, man. What's up? >> You believe it? >> Even though we've arrived. You believe it? >> I I believe it, but I I don't believe it at the same time. I knew the Knicks was the agenda, but it's like, man, the way they did it is is nasty work. It's It's crazy. They They did it. It's so like after that game four, I said, "Yeah, I'm done. I'm not. I'm out. I can't I can't do this no more, man. I I can't do it." We see We clearly see what's going on. We see what the NBA wanted to do. I said they went ahead and got they got everybody out the way for them. They put they put the Pistons out the way. You know, Boston got hurt. They put OKC out of the way. They put the Spurs. I'm like, "Bro, this is just insane." >> You're right. 100%. >> They cleared the path for them. And I'm like, cuz they knew they could get away with this with San Antonio because they could they could go with, "Oh, you know, San Antonio, they young, inexperienced, but OKC, they couldn't have pulled this off with OKC. That would make that would have made no sense." >> Man, if they have did this to OKC, they' had to answer to me. Yo, I I I can't I just can't believe this is this is just a bad day for basketball, bro. >> It is. It is a bad day for professional sport. >> This is bad. >> This is probably the worst I've ever seen it, bro. I I can't even lie. They Adam Silver should be arrested. >> He should, man. >> They should have arrested his ass right on the floor. >> The FBI should have came and pulled his ass away. Like you said, the Spurs completely do. They really dominated this series. They should have been up 3-1. This should have been the Spurs up 3-1 at home going for the win to win the championship. >> They should have already swept. >> Yeah. >> You know, when I You know, when I knew Adam Silver was trying to pull this, man, was when I started seeing a lot of Knicks commercials way before the playoffs started, man. I started seeing it from last year. Like all of a sudden Cat has a feature in in a big movie and you see, >> you know, all these commercials. I'm like, why are they trying to push this on us? Like why are they trying to tell us? >> And then I see this man >> and anyone with common sense should tell you it felt fake, man. This was fake. >> And what's even more crazy to me, they pushing Brunson now as as one of like the greats of all time. Now they're going to push this Knicks team like they the great like one of the greatest. I'm like bro this team is not near any team or that's the that's the greatest of all time. Like what? >> Exactly. It's it's disgraceful. It is completely disgraceful. >> And then Brunson I'm like oh he's a a good Okay. He's a good player. I give him that. But they the way they push him like he's just a I heard them comparing him to like Allan Iverson and all these. I'm like >> this is insane. dog. He said he better than Carmelo Anthony, dog. I This is what I we got to deal with in this. >> And they gonna argue that just because they gave him this ring, they gonna say, "Well, he got the ring and they didn't." It's like, >> "Right, given not earned." >> Don't they understand the difference? >> Oh my goodness. >> Believe it or not, bro, I'm a New Yorker myself and I've never been a Knicks fan, man. I and there's a lot of us here, man. Because back in the days, people would make fun of you for being a Knicks fan, to be honest with you, you know. So, seeing this take place, bro, it's just Oh, man. It's it's fake, bro. >> And you know, you know, we should have knew from right right away when they start all of a sudden when they just clicked it on after Atlanta and they was just blowing it. I'm like, >> "Yo, what's good? Yo, what's good everybody, man? How everybody doing tonight? Yo, how everybody going, man? >> What's up, Cino? >> Knicks, baby. Oh, we doing >> We hanging in there, man. Cuz this this is a disgrace to >> Yeah, this is bad. >> Y'all can say whatever y'all want. I'm not going to tarnish. Look, they don't matter. >> It's already tarnished. >> Like my man like my man in Detroit, he got the banners when he come up. He said, "All you got to do is win." He said, "I give you my respect and you'll get the respect." Just >> Well, then you got it from him, >> right? delay. I I just see I I got too I can see what happened. This is >> I don't expect I don't expect >> Right. Right. You can see what happened. We saw what happened. >> So I can see if y'all want it. That's why I said win it. Don't Don't sit there and get gifted it. >> Y'all got gifted this. >> Whatever, man. >> That's how That's why I don't I don't We don't respect it. >> How they w you know. >> And this is what >> How did you not see the game? Did you not see them cheat for the Knicks? Did you not >> And you know what's even more all of this was like, like we said, San Antonio should have won several of these games, but I keep saying the most the game that made me say I was haters on here >> was game. >> When I saw I say this is written like a movie, >> they gonna put the Spurs up 27 >> and then they going just going to get stupid, shoot threes, and just collapse. >> And the Knicks come all the way back. I'm like, "Bro, this is are we?" >> Yo, yo, whoever whoever saying >> he's a conspiracy theorist. >> Hold on. Hold on. >> Are y'all really think that really that y'all really smoking? >> Y'all believe this? Y'all y'all think >> I I was about to ask like whoever thinks we hate us. Like, honestly, bro, you don't feel like this [ __ ] is not genuine? Like, >> this only channel hating, bro. I watch all the other channels that hate connects and they not talking like this that y'all [ __ ] don't know basketball. >> Look at the game. >> We keeping it real. They just keep not going to talk about how it was done. They know because we watch the game know exact just like everybody else watching. Cact. I'm not watching no Nick Knicks games. Let's >> Why y'all watch the game if it's red, bro? Somebody answer that question. >> It's entertainment. >> I I have to I can't call something corrupt if I don't see it being corrupt. I have to sit here. I can't sit here and give you a blowby-blow and tell you what happened in the game if I didn't watch it. >> So, I have to watch this [ __ ] so I can say this is what happened. That's what happened. You see the magnet ball? You see that? That's a comp. >> We saw it all in this game. We saw Brunson back. They didn't call it. We saw down the stretch. We know why. We know >> they gave the Knicks and you like and CO. We could see it like sound like you had this loss sound like >> when Burton got injured last year. You could see they're like, "Oh, cuz they start hearing all these Knicks fans say, this is our chance. We got this happen. They pushing the >> Knicks make a run at something." think Detroit that think Knicks would win against Detroit. Man, y'all smoking crack, too. >> N now for the people. I heard somebody saying I heard somebody saying something crazy. >> I heard somebody talk about the Knicks going to win it next year. I'm like, bro, they can't do that. They can't. >> Yeah, that was it. That was This was their token. >> They had a script for the first one and done >> for Boston. They had a script written for Boston for Tatum coming back. Nick, Nick's nation, just be ready for the parade Thursday. >> For backup plans, >> be ready for the parade Thursday. >> They ready for the parade. >> That's where all the haters come to. >> We had to get a nick token [ __ ] man. We >> say whatever you want, man. >> This was a hard [ __ ] game against the Spurs fans. >> A hard game. >> Nobody even cares about what happened. >> I knew as soon as I saw the Spurs, I said, "Yep, I see what they doing. They gonna put the Spurs there. Get OKC out the way. >> I said on us the new channel, man. >> They got everybody out the way. They got >> Detroit. Detroit out of the way. They did everything they could. Anybody >> was worried about Detroit, man. Y'all damn near had the same team like last year. >> The Detroit Pistons are a year or two away from competing. >> We got three banners. We got hang up next. Next. >> We're the number one team in the East. You mean We're a year or two away from >> these [ __ ] Don't talk about that. These dudes is vets. These dudes is experienced. They is young. It was just This team ain't good enough to win. Like y'all basketball card need to be revoked, bro. Y'all don't know [ __ ] about basketball, bro. Y'all need to stop, man. >> That's why they put the spurs there so they can have that. >> Y too old to be hating like this, >> dog. It's truth telling, dog. That's >> This is why people come here, >> bro. I'm 27 years old, bro. I see everything that's going on, dog. I don't know what you mean. >> He's like, I see it. Y'all don't want to see it. That's >> your mind is corrupted by Ceno. That's all that is. >> No, I can see you contradicting yourself too much, bro. You >> contradict too much, man. I can't take you serious. >> Well, what do I contradict? You raining on our parades. Where's the contradiction? >> I mean, there is a world where OKC is >> you always contradicting every other team but your own team, bro. >> What do you mean? What's the contradiction? >> I'm I'm still waiting to hear the contradictions. >> He just talking. He yapping, bro. >> Well, I know you're a New York fan. I get it. So, it all makes sense now. But Cino, you said you said the only Pistons. >> That's not what I >> That's not a >> Didn't I Didn't I at the beginning of the year predicted that they was going to do this to the Knicks? >> You said You said You said last year they was going to do that. You said >> for their season. >> You said Lakers. >> I know. I know the hell I did. Last year. >> I see. These is veterans. These is veterans. Last year I said they want to push this >> ball club beating a young club. >> You hear what Terry said? He said they're veterans. That proves my point even >> Fox should be arrested for stealing that money from San Antonio. >> Oh, that's a terrible arrested. >> Hey, real quick. Real quick. I think it's crazy. I think it's crazy that you showed everybody the the >> saw that man. They still exactly >> I don't understand how y'all still acting crazy. >> Still saying that's AI that ain't >> And I'm sorry. It's certain things. >> It was no magnet ball. It's certain things that blew my mind that make me think because it's certain moments where it's like >> Told y'all flat out LIKE DON'T WE JUST SHOWED IT HERE? certain moment. >> There's certain moments that make me look at a game and say, "What is this?" Did this team just decide to just help them and just be stupid? Cuz it's like there's certain things that make no sense like how Cleveland >> San Antonio don't cuz if you don't recognize what's going on, >> they don't. What you want them to do? >> But even with that, they not ready to win Detroit because we recognize what's going on. See, if we we play in the paint, so it's gonna be real hard to keep us out the paint. >> You gonna have to call something. >> We going nobody that can guard K on the team. Who? OG. Yeah, he pissed on him all year. >> So every time you put anybody out there, it's a mismatch. >> Okay. >> Assur Thompson, they DN up your boy Brun. He can't move >> against the Pistons. He was [ __ ] on him last year. He made the gamewinning shot to send him to the next year. This year he was on his ass locking him down. He couldn't do nothing. Y'all couldn't do nothing with Detroit this year. So don't worry. Next year is going to be more the same. You still get your ass. >> They put Detroit out. They got Detroit. They like, "Oh, well, Detroit, they'll be back." >> Yeah. Cheated us out of the [ __ ] That was the the Oh my god. >> Now this is how Now this is how losers, man. >> The most rigged game of of the whole playoffs. >> They cheated y'all. But they they carried you out of that Orlando series. >> But see, this is how this is this is how I can see it going though. They might So they said, "Okay, the Pistons where they they got bouncing." >> That's right. At least Detroit now the league. >> I can see the Pistons possibly making the conference finals next year. I don't know if it's be against the Knicks or whoever, but I can see it. >> I see I see New York and Hallebertton having a round two. >> I can see Adam Silver going to jail. >> I just need him fired. >> Fired? No, they ain't I want him in jail. He deserve to be in jail for this. >> He [ __ ] ruining the draft. He ruining everything. He's got a regular body on these. >> This was a beautiful NBA finals. >> They put a father and son finally being promoted in the media instead of somebody's mom, man. They're the best team in the NBA. >> Father and son. What the he talking about? I think you talking about Brussend. >> You mean Rick Brunson the sex offender? We supposed to >> There you go, man. >> You supposed to be promoting that guy. >> You know, you trying to You trying to tarnish just because years ago. >> That was a That was a beautiful story. I'm talking about >> That was a beautiful story. Jaylen Bronson and Rick Bronson. Uhhuh. >> They finally promoted a father and son instead of having a mama. >> Uhhuh. >> Black and white. Black and white. The next best team in basketball. Congratulations to the New York Knicks >> who was out cheating on his wife every night and and sexually harassing a girl at a massage parlor. Let's go. >> That's allegedly, sir. the guy that went to Minnesota. >> Hey, know these the same people that believe that LeBron is still a faithful husband. >> Yeah, >> that's allegedly. >> Let's promote Rick Brunson who went to MINNESOTA AND GOT FIVE WOMEN to file sexual complaints against him. and the Timber. >> It's the one that should be sed all that up. >> Sean at least had seven kids and did it right and paid child support for all seven. >> Yep. Let's promote that guy. >> Hell of a dad. >> Then he ballooned up to 300 pounds. >> Trump's the president. Trump is a Trump is convicted. So it don't matter what Brunson uh Pops did, bro. >> Oh yeah, Bruss Rick Brunson get on great with Trump. >> That's right up his alley. He like drunk BE LIKE I DID THE SAME THING. >> 21. >> It's just I I can't like with It's just the exaggeration. It's like they won championship. But my thing is exaggeration of how great the team overall and Brunson. It's like y'all gonna put him up here with with the greatest teams of all time. Like there's no way. best team of all time, bro. Yo, talking about scoring 40 points. Why nobody talking about that, man? >> It's embarrassing. >> That [ __ ] Brun is so average, bro. It don't even make sense. >> Whatever. >> Exactly. That's what I'm saying. If you look at Brunson, he's a average. This dude would be a bench player at best. >> He won. What are you talking about? right now if a run at a YMC will get ran out the gym. >> Anybody that watch basketball know they know the Spurs like really the Spurs are the best. >> They just Yeah, they outplayed the Knicks in every game. >> Not every game. >> Every game. There's not been one game the Knicks outplayed them in. >> Game one, they just blew everything. They blew it in game four. >> They blew game two GAME FOUR. Game five. THEY HAVE NOT PLAYED WELL THIS ENTIRE SERIES. >> OKAY, you put Brunston up against K. We'll see what happened. >> Oh, that's right. >> Smoke already the game. What the hell? What? >> Bunch already smoke. What the hell? If you ask if you ask who if you ask them who would you rather have if we picking for the team USA you think they picking K or Brunson >> they better pick K >> Brunson is a Brunson is a oneway player >> quick >> Brunson >> depends who the teammate is. Did you saw what Bruss did in the uh USA basketball >> not a two-way player and he's okay like if he get hot >> that's why Christian ain't going to win a championship you don't pay Ko Brunson crazy >> did you see him in that >> what do you see Detroit doing here are they going to lose Dur and get um >> never gonna win a championship at this man got to get Bronson >> five years we gonna lock him in two two years probably 230 30 240. >> I just I just read um >> the the shitty Nets are gonna offer a max contract to Austin Reeves. Get him out of LA. >> Get him out of Get him out of LA. And then LA's going to go for uh Duran. And then Detroit will end up with Hartinstein to kind of start the unraveling of OKC coming to >> Hold on. Wait, who stand with the Lakers? He said Dur. >> Austin Reeves starts it all off by getting a max contract to the Nets. Then the Lakers have room for two stars and one of them would be Duran because they and then uh >> So wait, you think LeBron staying with the Lakers? >> Not unless he gets to choose his teammates. I don't think they're going to let him. >> Yeah, that [ __ ] he getting kicked out, bro. I ain't gonna lie. >> No use no more. He shouldn't even been there. >> Well, what you gonna do if you got a chance to get a 22 year old like Duran for five years or LeBron? Hey, uh, you're not worth 50 million no more. You can come back at 10. Come back at, you know, we'll lose a bunch of money to you to the casino if you really need money, but you're kind of a billionaire. If LeBron want to have a, you better go to the East. He want to have a chance to win. >> Yeah, he needs to just play for 10 million for Cleveland and get Harden's I don't know what why he sucks so bad in crunch time, >> man. Harden been sucking in crunch time for years. He's one of the worst playoff guys ever. >> Ever, man. >> And he tries >> all the times. He never delivered one time out of like 20. >> The when CP3 got hurt. That was the time where I thought they were he was closest. >> Yep. You can't bring him home then. >> Dang a se. You cracking down on Rick Rick uh Brunson, bro. Dang. >> Oh, he's a he's a no problem. The only reason that he's in the league right now is because of Tibido. Tibido had him as his assistant coach when he was with the Bulls. He had him in Minnesota. He tried to get him with the Knicks, but they made him play with the the with Woodson and all those other guys, Thompson, whatever they had that first year. Danny was able to get him the second year and bring him on over there so they could get Brunson to come over. Him and his daddy came over together. >> From um >> Illinois, ain't he? He won two state championships in Illinois. >> Yeah, he was he stayed down the street. Rick Brunson stayed five minutes from here. >> The NBA covered all this up. I found out about this at Whole Foods cuz when they had won game four, the lady in Whole Foods, they was talking about it and they was like, "Yeah, well, they happy for Jaylen Brunson, but they can't stand Rick because they knew what happened here with the at the massage parlor which right around the corner." >> Was he the coach? >> It's a fitness center and they had a massage therapist working there. He went in there, he signed he fake signed a fake name, Patrick Ewing. Why would you put PATRICK NAME IN THERE? >> THAT'S STUPID. NOW THEY >> YEAH, HE SIGN PATRICK EWING'S name and go in there and commit a sexual assault. >> She just signed Deshaun Watson. >> Now they gonna make it like Wimi gonna become greater from this. Like yeah, he had >> he got the right judge to get the case thrown out saying that they didn't have enough EVIDENCE TO MOVE FORWARD. >> WAS HE the head coach of >> He was an assistant coach then. Then he was supposed to he was going to go to Temple and be the coach there. He was going to take over the coach at Temple University and then Brunson was gonna play for Temple. Brunson was in high school then. So he was he was state championships back to back. >> Yeah. So he was going to play at Temple >> and then they were like, "Okay, he gonna come play at his father, you know, cuz Rick Russell played at Temple. So he was going to go there, be the coach, and then his son was going to play with him so he could finish developing him and everything else. And then this happened. So there was no way he could go to temple with this case and >> forever assistant now. >> Yeah. So then >> he had to bounce around. >> Like a dark [ __ ] bro. I ain't going to lie. He look dark. >> Yeah. Then in Minnesota, he was with the Timberwolves. They had to release him. He had to resign cuz they didn't want to disgrace it and get the police involved. He was harassing the media woman. He stalked her, followed her home and everything. Showed up at the restaurant. got to do with >> how how's that different than >> basketball? What's that got to do with basketball though? >> He is actually doing that. But he WAS ALSO WORK THAT WAS JUST ONE of the women in Minnesota. He had the links the dog on the all three organizations in Minnesota. Rick Brunson was sexually harassing all of these women. These women were all complaining. They were like, "Oh, Rick, that's inappropriate. Stop." RICK WOULD NOT STOP. HE SENDING MESSAGES, EVERYTHING. Rick Brunson was ridiculous. Then said they haven't proved any evidence for Minnesota to put out that statement about me. They the one told you, man, you got to resign. We don't need any problems here. And you causing a problem. You got to go. >> Yeah. This this look dark, bro. I ain't going to lie. >> Yeah. So, they made >> 2026, baby. Yo, New York is going crazy right now, man. Y'all should be having y'all should be enjoying the the championship team, man. the gossip [ __ ] man. >> It ain't even about this. >> It ain't even authentic, bro. >> That man just scored 40 points in the finals, bro. >> He just scored 40 points. >> Hey. Hey. Magn players are free agents. >> Got a few free agents. >> Want any of those garbage players on my team? You know what I'm saying? This is a >> of course news hate the team but they win. I don't get it. This is great. This was greatness. I saw this was man. This was great. >> This is a this is like the bears bad news Bears or something. This team is like a team. >> You don't have a team. >> They're not the best team. There's This is trash. Like we've seen the We've seen teams all this season. You think this team was better than OKC? Hell no. Hell no. >> On defense. On defense. Hell yeah. The Spurs can't clown. They not ready. They way better. These dudes from college, bro. We got to stop playing. We got to talk basketball. Way better than the Detroit Pistons. Hell no. We smoke, >> dude. This team is a garbage team. That's why >> Bro, if y'all really if y'all really believe that the Knicks will beat the Pistons, bro, you got to be, bro, you got to give check in college. What they talk? Oh my god, bro. OG is a two-way player. 68. You know how many teams want a player like that? >> Well, he's a legend. He's a legend in Nigeria and in in uh over there in Canada, bro. These these this dude is a a top player that you can't get in the league. >> Two-way player. OG. Wherever Giannis goes, that seems better. >> OG ain't nobody. He the best player y'all got. >> WE GOT LIKE FIVE GUYS. >> Team want that guy. Teams want OG anobi on that team. >> Well, because they THEY FED Y'ALL THIS GUY like he's a all perennial superstar. We proved to you he ain't [ __ ] WE BEAT HIM BY 30. We was cooking HIS ASS ALL NIGHT. KU him like this is the guy. Okay. THEN Y'ALL WENT AND GOT SHOWAN AND THEN BROUGHT HIM IN THERE. HEY, WE GOT SHAN. HE LIT THAT BOMB up and y'all ain't mentioned his ass since. This is exactly what I'm talking about whenever on that level players versus bums. >> Then they got >> then they then they dramatiz everything. Got Mike Breen sound like he reading the script. And this is the greatest Knicks comeback. I was like, "Oh my god." It was >> they got to do they got to sell it no matter how much [ __ ] it is. >> And then tonight they won. He's like lick >> they came back from a historical >> like I'm like oh my god >> they came back from a historical down. They came down from like 60 something down. Like that was crazy >> that was ridiculous. >> I ain't never seen that before. >> I've never se I'm like how does And then my I'm like it happened against Cleveland. Cleveland. Like in in those situations, I'm looking at the I'm like this the other team do dumb stuff that you would never ever do in a game. A coach waiting that long to call a timeout. >> Then you got the Spurs instead of >> instead of this coach settling his players down say, "Hey guys, let's get to the basket. Let's stop taking >> That's not the next That's not the next fault though. Like I don't understand how y'all get mad that they trash and the [ __ ] is good. >> Papovich, you think Papovich would sit there and just watch them just keep shooting? bad shot in the game. Like this makes that made no sense. >> How did they get up by 29? >> 29. They shot the best shooting percentage in any half they played the entire year. All whatever 90 games they got. That's how they got by 29. And then the very next half, the second half, they shot the second worst shooting percentage of all 100 games they played. How do you do that faster than they second? That's what happened to Boston. That's what happened to Boston last season. Something don't smell right, dude. That's what happened. >> They made the whole comeback. >> We see that already. >> We already got Fox doing the dumb layup. I'm like, what in the hell is happening right now? I don't want to see. >> I'm loving I'm loving this right now. I'm loving this right now because why can't score 40 points if he's supposed to be yo if supposed to be the best dude why he can't score 40 like Brunson >> somebody tell me that why one can't score 40 points like Brunson he ain't had one game where he was even like Dylan Harper is the best player on that team right now >> Harper's got a 40 >> well Harper is a more seasoned player he's taught by Ron Harper his father he He with either hand. He's not a one-handed player like Brunson and a lot of these other players. Today's athletes, man, you got a guy that have no post moves. They they don't they don't have an offhand and they fivetime all star. You know, it's just ridiculous how this game has been watered down to nothing. >> These players are getting better. These these younger guys are getting better. Wow. Wow. >> How was that? >> You saw Atlanta Hawks. Yeah, because the league is >> if you have no you don't even know how to set up a post move. You can only score with one hand, which is your shooting hand. Guys like that wouldn't even make it on a high school team back in those days. Those I'm like, dude, these guys couldn't even compare themselves to nobody of yesterday year. They're just in this era here. That's why they got to stay in this era because it's a whole different game >> here. You have like no skills and could be a fivetime allstar. is ridicul >> just shoot from the corner threes. >> So Yish so you don't like Yic game then cuz Yic play pretty much like what you saying? >> No is the best ever post moves. Yic has post. >> He just passes. He just goes in the paint and dribble that [ __ ] and then pass it out. That's what he do. He don't got no spin moving for >> y'all that do man. That is unbelievable. >> He's just a big He's just a big He's just a big shack that could that could shoot the ball and pass. >> He's slow. He can't defend. He can't defend. >> He's the biggest point guard ever. pretty much >> 280 pound point guard. >> Not only that, his his basketball IQ is through the roof. He don't just pass the ball out. He's actually waiting to guys get in position. He's setting things up. He's patient. He lets the games come to him. Why? Because they've been taught the game overseas. They don't teach the game. >> Say that, bro. They be they be learning the fundamentals over there overseas. >> THAT'S WHY WHY YOU think Luca Luca don't have to be super fast. He can play at a pace. He knows how came out of nowhere >> and get to his spots because y'all DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEFEND it or stop it. >> American basketball, they want to be superstars all the time. They don't take their time. Gino Bey came out of nowhere and he was the first foreigner to do oh [ __ ] uh the Euro step and no one could defend it. He he should he was he could barely dunk and he was a he looked like Scotty Pippen out there to with the dunking half the time because it was like what the this dude came out of nowhere. >> Yeah, Jenobi brought to the he brolbly brought that in from overseas and smoked him. Tony Parker came in from Turkey with the jumps the two foot jump off jump hook. They couldn't even stop that. They couldn't time it to block it. So they couldn't do anything about it. That's how he was dominating overseas. And then when he came with the Spurs, him being in practice, he go 100 miles an hour, stop and jump with two feet and do a jump hook. And you go like, "What?" And that thing would drop in like a tear drop and they couldn't block it BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T TIME IT. YOU DIDN'T know when he was going to jump cuz he come Nobody jumps off two foot. This is why it was So >> that was a lot to do with Papovich, too. >> You said what? >> A lot to do with Papovich, too. >> Yeah. Pop had to hone his game in. Pop actually put shackles on his game because Tony was Yeah. He made Tony play more into the system because he's like, "Look, you got to feed Tim more. You know, you you doing too much 101." And if he's like, "Pop, we ready to go. Like, we gota he he felt Pop held him back and they lost some championship series because the Pops put the put the clamps on them and saying, "We got to run the system. Slow it down." And he was >> Robert Ory. Get it to Robert A or get it to who else was there? >> Yeah, you know, he had Ary there. He had a couple of guys, but I I think Pop, the smartest Pop is, he he sometimes he like overcoaches the game. Like when he took Tim Duncan out for defensive purposes and wanted to Yeah. And uh like, oh, it was for free throws. I'm like, Tim Duncan could have hit those free throw. Taking Tim Duncan out of that game was the craziest thing ever for defense. was like, "All right, let's take Tim out for defense and bring somebody else in." You needed rebounded and then Ray Allen hits the three from the corner. You would have been the champions. >> Yep. >> Who I got a quick trivia question for y'all. Who can you name um a championship uh that he was the MVP of the regular season. He took his entire team and won the championship with an entire teammate. No teammates went made any All-Stars before, during, or after their entire careers. He He was literally the most impressive one-year championship ever with zero allstar teammates. >> Kawawaii. >> Dirk Dirk Nois. >> Say Kawhai. >> No. >> No. Dirk. >> Kawawaii had Jason Kid on old Jason Kid that had a resume. >> No, I said Dirk Nois. I thought she was talking about the Raptors. Who's Who's the Allstar for the Raptors? >> No, I didn't say Raptors. I said Dirk. >> I did. I was just wondering. >> No, Durk in 2011 had all-star Tyson Chandler uh at least once or twice. And you have old ass Jason Kid with a Hall of Fame resume. >> Yeah, he had a Hall of Fame resume. That was like one of his last. >> I'm saying the team I'm talking about had zero allars ever, ever, ever in their career. You take a picture of that championship team and you have a 14 guys that never made an All-Star game ever in their career. >> Well, okay. >> He talking about He talking about Detroit Pistons, man. You talking about the Detroit Pistons. >> No, Rip made Allar Walls made four straight. It would have to be probably Shay. Shay would >> Toronto Toronto had Kyle Lowry that made Allstar. >> I'm talking about I'm talking about Shay then. You got to be talking about Shay. >> JDub's allstar. >> JDub was an all-star. >> I never did, >> I think. Or uh Chad, did Chad make one, too? Or is he just runner up rookie of the year? >> Hey, my man. Whoever talking you got like a radio voice, man. >> I got a smoker's voice. >> So, who is the team? I'm interested to who the team are. >> You guys I'm going to ask Casino Cino a question. >> Yeah. >> I'll tell you the the decade and you should be able to figure it out. It's in It's in the 90s. >> Oh 90. Okay. >> So take out the Six Bulls championships cuz obviously Scotty Pitman made an all >> Oh, he talking about he talking about Houston Rockets. >> Yep. Hakee before Drexler. So in 94, Houston won and that was literally the most impressive one-man team ever. And then in 95, he brought in Drexler, his old college roommate then and stopped that from being a twotime deal. But in 94, he had no one. He had like rookie Sam Cassell, Mario Ellie, >> he had f uh Scott Bullard, I don't know how I remember that name. um just no one and he went like I think it was five game series back then. He did five games against David Robinson. He did five games against Carl Malone. He did five games against it might have been uh it might have been Shaq. >> Hey that's history right there though. I didn't even know that. That's crazy. >> Yeah. I mean that was an impressive rep. more impressive about it with and young ass or like in year two Robert Ory was >> Yeah. What was more impressive about that run >> is the fact that he was doing Ramadan, you know, so he was fasting. He wasn't eating food. >> Dang. >> So imagine that to go through Ramadan >> and to be playing an NBA basketball. So he he beating y'all off bread and water. >> You know who else who was doing that in the finals this year right now? Who's doing who else was doing that? Muel Bridges. Same same diet. That's how he played all 82 games. >> What about Landry Sham? Him too. >> What? Eating bread and water. >> Bread, water, vegetables. No nothing else. >> Yeah. Well, he probably need he probably need a steak because he the way he played was no >> no meat. No meat. None of that. >> That's what I'm saying. He probably need a pork like 15 tonight, right? >> It's hot and cold. >> Oh yeah. >> No, he he was he wasn't good. He was like one he was like one from two or one from 12 or something like that. He wasn't good. But like it don't matter. That's why they whole team is good. That's what I'm saying. and their whole team, they got other dudes to step up. You know what I'm saying? If one of them is is not putting putting it down, then they got other two, three guys like Josh Hart could do that. >> Y got to talk about that. You know what I'm saying? They got other guys that could take over the game. >> I said that. I said before the season series started, I said Nick's got firepower. >> Cat Brunson and a I ain't going to put Muel Bridges past his peak. He's not past his prime, but he's passes pee. I like that McBride, but he he's a six-man, seven man. >> Yeah, I like McBride.

He the best player on the team, but he just he got a sports herd here. And >> Alvareo is a good teammate. Like he's spark plug. >> Yeah. Yeah, he's a good teammate. Use him in reserve. But Miles McBride is like their best shooter on the team. He was he was a great defender, too. But that sports hernia messed him up and everybody trying to judge him like he's a bum now. I'm like, "Do he he got a sports her supposed to play." I was like, "Yeah, he injured. He's not supposed to play." Yeah, he injured right now. That's why I didn't want him see him out on the floor, >> right? I'm like out here and they working him to death because they got a a a dude named Brunson who can't play no defense.

>> You know what's crazy? You don't hear no stories about that though. about what? >> No stories about McBride being hurt. >> Not right now. I ain't seen nothing. >> Well, damn. He He missed 50 games. >> I mean, he was >> No, I'm talking about for the playoffs. Right now, I'm talking about like >> I ain't talking about >> Yeah, cuz it up. They ain't gonna say it in the uh what was it like Philly series, I think. But >> that was after that. They kind of really ain't >> right. It was no need to keep harping on it. But you know he hurt. He playing hurt. >> Everybody got something not moving as quick as much. You not doing as much. >> Yeah. All that is done. I mean when you got a sports hernia, you ain't gonna be do I'm like you going to be done for the I got it once. >> And what's crazy to me didn't OG came from off of like a grade one hamstring. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's why he a dog. Yo. Yeah, man. Yo, he's the best African in the sports right now, man. They had a lot to OG. Cena gota give it up to OG, man. >> I thought I ripped my pants cuz I heard >> OG the second best player on the team. >> Yeah, that's Yeah. Yeah, he is. He is. Guess he played him up to be >> playing defense. >> And you know who the first best player is? Is Cat. >> They hyped him up to be. So y'all I mean >> you got to check out his resume. >> When he when he playing against us, we he ain't no problem for us. OG is a two timeship.

>> Jaylen Brunson the fourth best player on the Knicks. >> Yeah, pretty much. >> You see, you see who said that, bro? You see Brunson numbers, bro. You see what he did last You seen Austin Reed's numbers. That's politics. >> Peace. Peace. Peace y'all. Peace y'all. Yo, peace. Yo, Jaylen Brunson. Jaylen Brunson scored 45 points tonight. 1427 shooting. >> How many? >> Okay. >> Four. Four for seven from four for seven from three-point land. >> 13 for 15 from the strike. >> How many free throws? A lot of fouls. >> 13 for 15 from the strike. Rookie. >> So he shot 15 free throws. >> Yeah. He's like all these players today. They cone drill stars. >> Exactly. He He good at He good at doing drills. 13 to 15. Good job. >> He gave him three free throws in the clutch. >> Hey yo. Hey yo. They could give you They could give you everything in the world. It's your job to can the damn shots. >> Yeah. >> It's your job to can the shots. It's your job to win the championship. This guy singlehandedly This guy singlehandedly took that chip.

>> You know, do you think you think Bren are better than Luca? They You know they they saying that. >> Hell yeah. Hell no. >> Hell yeah. >> Are you crazy, >> bro? Bro, what the hell, bro? >> What has Luca done? What the hell has Luca done? >> He don't even have the oil on the floor for his team to even do [ __ ] Like >> I mean Luca is better but they're similar players. Both both out of shape, chunky belt, you know, fake fake politic. >> Yo, what games are y'all watching, bro? This dude don't even be in shape after the year, bro, to play basketball. How is he better than Brunson? When Brunson come in there ready to play, he get his team involved like slops. Get him free throws. >> Look, if Luca if Luka took a If Luca took a pay cut, I'm sure he could win a title, too. And I don't even like Luka. You know what I mean? >> Is equivalent to Fred Van Fleet. >> Fred, I agree with that. I really agree. >> How can you agree with that? How can you agree with that? How can you agree with that when Fred Van Vleet ain't never put up these numbers? >> Cuz he don't have a politics. But make Fred Van Fleet's dad. >> Hey, hey, make Fred Flynn Vleet senior an assistant coach on the team and give him a big ego and maybe and let's see what numbers he and give him the uh you know the the New York politics. >> Was the coaching sir Rick is not the top assistant. >> I don't care. It's worse in the NBA. In the NBA, if your dad is on the bench, this is even more embarrassing. What we talking about trash? His dad on the bench. >> JB have dad was a coach and he he got partnership in the NBA and stuff. People don't talk about that. Who cares? What are you saying? >> What you mean? If a guy if a guy goes from not even being an allstar to now he goes to a team where his dad's the coach and now he's he's a finals MVP putting up numbers. All it's politics. We don't believe this [ __ ] Hey yo, when you talk when you talk about politics talk about talk about talk about the fact that Fred Van Vleet couldn't even get out of practice. He couldn't even get out of OTAAS without getting injured. >> The best the best ability the best ability the best ability the best ability is availability. So when you talk about Brunson being fat, sloppy, big bodied and all of this, he was available. Fred Vanley, no show. >> And he's not available. He can't stay healthy. Brussest MVP. >> Oh my god. This is ridiculous. Derek, you >> br can stay healthy. >> Yeah, Bruss is a solid little player, but he not know. >> That's what I'm saying. >> What they're doing. You dudes as hyped for like dudes is hyped up. >> You tell me Brunson can't stay healthy and he playing and Fred Van Vleet ain't >> my thing. >> Yo, he tore his Achilles. THAT'S THE ONLY INJURY HE EVER HAD. HE JUST TORE IT LAST YEAR. >> GOOD. NO, NO, I'm not saying good. Forgive me for saying that. What I'm saying is what I'm saying is what I'm saying is when you tearing Achilles when you tearing Achilles on OTAAS >> that mean you ain't staying healthy that mean you [ __ ] up in the offse if you tear your Achilles before if you tear your Achilles before the season even startle >> you [ __ ] up. >> My thing you [ __ ] up. My thing with Brunson is they can say he >> they can say Yo Brunson Yo Brunson was Brunson was drafted wrong. He was really a first round pick bro but because he was too little he won two college brollusion. >> He always won. Wait where was Brunson drafted? Where was he drafted? >> The second round. >> Exactly. Cuz that's what he is. He's a second round. >> Too little. Nah. Nah. Because he was a he was too short. That's why >> we need to start. I got to >> name me one player that defensively. >> Who did he shoot? >> I'm not saying No, I'm not saying none of that. He can't defend. Am I saying that? I'm saying that. I'm just saying the league today draft player is wrong. Now, >> hold on. Hold on. Luka can't defend. >> He's willing to give up his body. He led the NBA in charges taken. >> There's more than one way to win. >> He's not a selfish player. In order to not be a selfish player, >> he's not a selfish player is crazy. politics times. It was a full basketball. >> He led the league. >> Luka doesn't shoot. What's he talking about in the comments about Lucas? >> He better take charges. >> Luc, if he don't take charges, he don't play melo. That's >> Hey, hey, Jersey A. Jersey A. You know what would be unselfish? If that [ __ ] slid his feet and play fullcourt D. That would be unselfish. Taking a charge. Taking a charge is opportunistic. That's lazy. >> What? Every time you just say taking a charge is opportunistic. If >> that's all you do. If that's all you do. If that's all you do. >> Draymond Green take charges, too. But he plays D. What am I hearing? >> I'm not hearing basketball right now. I'm hearing fantasy. >> D. >> What's fantasy? They saying what he said. What? That's fantasy. He said that he he said that Luca can't defend. >> If you if you good at taking charges >> and swinging the basketball your way, keep taking charges and swinging the basketball your way. >> Taking charges is a >> You won't never hear You won't never hear a coach tell a [ __ ] to not take the charge. >> Hey, radio voice. What' you say? >> Can y'all notice too? the guy. >> That's what makes coaches love you when you take charges. That hypes up everyone. That's the bench. >> Yo, Jersey, what kind of radio you want to win? That show that's calamity. That's [ __ ] listening to Russell your team. That's giving a team confidence. If my leader is going to put his body on the line, why the hell I'm 6'8 and I can't go out there and dominate like that? That's >> trend. All that stuff counts. >> Remember that's trend they've been going with. It ain't been no dynasty. No team been winning two in a row. And if you don't notice, the last four years has been going back and forth from east to west with the champions. >> Now tell me where Giannis is going to go. >> So you had you had the Nuggets. >> Oh yeah. Giannis coming to the Knicks. >> Then you had the Thunder. Then you had the Knicks. >> I heard it's down to like three teams for Giannis. >> I heard about him to us to the Heat. You know, I like the Heat. They saying no. He say going to a historical franchise that wins >> Boston. He's going to Boston and they're getting rid of uh Jay Brown ass contract. >> You think they just doing it straight up though? Jayen Brown for young to the Pelicans. >> Nah, they not trading Jayen Brown. >> Nah, they not trading Jayen Brown. Celtics is not doing that. They not doing that. They not dumb. >> No, but if Jaylen Brown signal to them that he won his own team now, they might as well. just had his best year with Tatum being out and he's like, "Dude, I can lead a team. I'm the man. Tatum, I don't need him." And Tatum's like, "Motherfucker, I don't need you. You're lucky you got the [ __ ] finals MVP there." >> I don't think it's like that. I don't think they against each other like how to how to meet. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> They They really aren't. I shouldn't say it like that, but >> they're not really compatible teammates >> the way they're compatible. Nah, they they they do compliment. Giannis is not Giannis not even a complete player. He can't shoot free throws. He can't shoot the three. All he does is drive to the paint and rebound and [ __ ] I mean, he's strong. That's it. Like, >> that's why I'm surprised. >> Don't shoot threes. >> M& don't even make sense. Like real >> surround him with shooters cuz he >> real quick I don't think you got to shoot with shooting bigs like Miles Turner Brook Lopez cuz he he can't shoot threes. You need a son. Giannis got to play with sons that shoot threes. So they can space the floor when he drive. He can space the floor for them to go out and shoot. >> Had an awesome year. Um out of a weird name uh Qua. That dude had an awesome year. Kada. Who is that? >> Kada. Nimus Kada. >> Oh, Kada. Kada. Yeah. Yeah. Kada. >> Nicholas. Nicholas. Kada. Like I said, I never heard about this dude. >> I thought he had a solid year. >> Talking about Kada Bates. Kada Bates. D >> Nick Nick. Qua. The >> I don't know who that is. >> That's the big man. I'll tell you what he did. He did some [ __ ] Then they get another Oh, they got V, too. I'm like >> [ __ ] Bulls gave him V and he he's too damn slow for him to get hurt. >> This Kada dude's young and he was like a top 20 center. I was like [ __ ] Boston. >> I don't know. I think I think >> I think anybody moved. I don't I don't think >> I don't think that Boston should move Brown, but If they do, >> if they do, you got to bring back a lot. You got to bring back a lot for Brian. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's a three team deal. He ain't saying what else is in it. >> Well, say he want to go to New York. That's what Asian says. >> I would I would I would give up Brown for for Giannis straight up. I would do that. >> And then what whatever contracts they have to do to you know, you got to trim some contracts here or there. Yeah. >> Yeah. But yeah, that would never happen. >> They can't afford him. They can't afford him. They got to pay him. They got his extension coming up. They can't afford. You see they salary cap in Boston right now. They can't afford to pay him. You know how much money he want? How much they paying Tatum right now. Like he get >> Brown's Brown's like the third highest paid or fifth highest paid player in the league. >> He just want more. >> He want more than what Brown getting though. >> Yeah. Giannis Giannis won't be the top paid and and he going he's going >> he's going to be the top paid player in the league that let's just not get let's get twisted >> then you draft a three-point shooter and get rid of Sam Hower or whatever like moneywise it can work >> I just schem New York he's coming here because they he just seen they win I'm tell watch they going to trade they going to trade towns >> they trading towns they trading Josh and you know Kevin Durant. >> No, they going to do it and that's what he want to go >> I could have seen him do. >> Even LeBron would chase like Kevin Durant that ruined his reputation forever. >> Is not going nowhere. We got a two-year window. We got two more years. >> Nah, ain't nobody going nowhere. You run his team back. You run his team back. >> A fouryear deal. His second year he got a trip and we got two more years with him. He not going nowhere. >> Who's that? >> Cat. a cat. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's kind of like if the Warriors would have won in 2016, I don't know if the rent went go steal. >> You know what the Knicks could do? True. True. >> You said what happened in 2016? >> Trade Mitch Robinson. >> That's the only Hey yo, that's the only piece I'm worried about is Mitch cuz he >> he's due for some big money. He's due for some big money. >> He out of there. He gone, man. He going at this point. He been there. I' been there. >> Hold up, Mike. What you say, man? You said trade Mitch and what? My for y'all. >> You can sign and trade Mitch and um Josh Hart and who is the [ __ ] third guy. >> Enough with that fake trade. >> Yeah, Yeah. Mikuel Bridges and Muel Bridges. Those three >> remember they gave up a lot >> can get you a bench guy and two years of >> bench guy >> from Yeah. Just u Anthony Davis for two years. Oh, hell no. >> Yeah, this man just throwing out trades. But >> he got to realize the guy that's got the Knicks got nine players that's already under contract for uh for next year like and Deuce is one of them. So it's like we got all our starters locked in. Uh Deuce is locked in. >> So nobody is free agent except for who? Mitch. >> I just don't nine or 10 years Robinson. Is he 30 yet? Sham sham sham don't know he look old for his his age. I know he I think 28 28 years old >> I I don't know man. I don't know heard his name. >> He in his prime. He in his prime player option for Alvareo. >> I like how he said >> he got a players option next year. They they don't care now. They say they won a championship so they don't care. They going to improve. Now you go get Giannis. You ain't gonna be mediocre like you was this year. >> Man, one man that's a Knicks guy. [ __ ] [ __ ] that Greek yogurt, man. Nobody want him, man. Nobody >> I don't want isn't Is it busting up for some money? >> Drama queen in the NBA. The biggest honest one time. Yeah, that's exactly what I said. One time he showed his colors. >> Yeah, >> cuz I thought Brson's discount deal was only a two-year deal. Isn't he up for money or something? >> Who? He up. He up next two years. Two years he up. Yeah, he up for a big next. He want 400 million. >> You saying two years from now or right now? >> About two years from now. >> He up for like a 400 million a $400 million contract. >> Like I said, got nine to 10 players that's locked in through at least at least next year that's coming back. No question. >> But see, they want to no team. This is See, this is why teams don't don't go back to back because you got to improve your team. You can't just run the same team. You got to you got to make big trades if you want to go back. >> Detroit damn near had the same team like last year, bro. >> Like what's the difference? Like they had the same team. >> No, but the Knicks is babies. You know what I mean? I mean the uh Detroit's babies. >> I got a question here. Not >> no more. They not babies no more. I'm not doing >> You got You got C at 57 million, age 31. Ag is 29. Brunson is age 30. Mikuel Bridges is age 30. Ji Hart is 31 years. >> Yeah, they all in their 30s. >> They keep saying they all basically 30. >> Brunson is 29. >> Yeah. I'm like, what he saying? 30. >> He's age 30. >> He go for the 30 >> for next year. That's the >> next year. >> Cat is for the next year already. >> Birthday gonna be next year. >> See jersey. That's why you got to make those trades cuz they old now. You want to win, you going back to You can't You can't win with old guys. >> Yo yo, here's the question. Would you would you pay the luxury tax to keep everybody there? >> Yeah, but I don't think Mitch Robinson is healthy. >> No struggle. I mean, >> if you James Dolan, if you James Dolan, you don't pay the luxury. You don't you don't you don't shell out the money for the taxes to be Mitch. Nah, you do that. I don't think Listen, I don't think Mitch Robinson going to be up for a lot of money. I don't think a lot of teams try to make money. >> N that's n [ __ ] no. >> You seen what happened to um Hartinstein last year. Uh uh what was that last year? He always >> he always make OKC like 20. >> He a free agent. >> And most people have Isaiah a bit higher. part about her. >> Yeah. He was a high commodity and and in and New York they they just couldn't pay him and they didn't want to they didn't want to go over to pay him. >> No, they couldn't pay him. No, they couldn't pay him because when you sign somebody for two years, you can't only max out a certain amount of numbers. They couldn't pay him max. >> That's how Mitch is. He's saying that's how Mitch is right now. But where Mitch just like opt out and just take a pay cut. >> Exactly. >> How How much is he making right now? Mitch Roberts. Mitch is >> That's a good question. >> Back stream. This [ __ ] making like 20. Like 29. Like 20. >> If he's making 20, he not making that again. I'm telling you. >> No way. No. >> No. He's uh >> Yeah. Bless him, but I don't think so. >> He's at 13, right? Like Yeah. 13. >> Yeah. I don't see him going really above that. >> He's never been paid before. >> Bulls that won them. You got Charlotte that won them. You got the >> Somebody gonna pay. Somebody gonna give Mitch Somebody gonna give Mitch 181 19. >> I just had three. It's like two teams that want them. >> If If the Nets have like 40 something million and then they give it all to Austin Reeves like a dumbass, then that's one of the four teams that ain't spending no more money. So then that makes the Lakers rich and the Bulls I don't know who they're if their new GM's any good or not. >> I did I did hear Lakers talk about Mitch. I did hear Lakers Mitch talkers. Yeah. Or or they could go for uh >> Boston. Nah, Boston don't want New York players. >> Okay. >> I don't think so. I'm thinking it's like some unwritten like rule with that. >> Well, there's a rule like that with Kings and Lakers. >> We don't trade with each other. For real. I'm a Kings fan. Yeah. >> But if the Lakers really want >> New York and then the other team with Yeah. So the Nets take Reeves and then the Lakers have all the money and they just are is it going to go to Giannis or is it going to go >> the Nets want Reeves for the the Nets ain't even good. They don't even got a a a top number one draft pick. Why the hell they want Reeves for all that money? I know. I heard the Nets are ready to throw the bag at Reeves. >> Oh, keep it real. After watching Brunson, if you realize, oh man, I could just take a guy, make him a franchise. The NBA might throw some politics in and overrate him and now I'm in the playoffs. >> You know, Eastern Conference finals like no, >> you know what it really? >> I'm just saying that's what it is. >> Stick with me though, man. >> Stick with me. >> We've seen it in the NBA all the time. I I don't even know how many points he score in the paint, but like Cino said, >> this fake ass magnet ball theory, he said, the way you can beat it is dunking the ball or or going to the hole and laying laying it up. Brunson was doing what today? He did a lot of going to the hole or whatever. >> I mean, what what more do y'all want? Like, >> tell me. >> Like, come on, man. Like, at some point, >> I ain't even talking to Magnus. I'm not doing that. Just tell me the dumbest team. >> It's just this channel cuz every other channel I go like Phillies plays and Brooks and everybody's giving him his props, bro. I don't see all that hate. >> That's NPCs. That's easy [ __ ] to do. You know what I mean? >> I'm say this too. I'm too much. >> I'mma say this too. The Knicks have out of all of the games that they won against the Spurs, out of the four games that they won against the Spurs, they have not played day a game at all. either four in either four of them games. You look at you look at uh Cleveland, >> they came back by by 20 something and was blowing them out the other games. You look at Philly, they blew Philly out the water, >> you look at Atlanta, >> beside from the two games that they lost by one each gamew they blew Yeah, they blew Atlanta out the water in the games that they won. You didn't see not one game this final series where the Knicks played exceptionally well, >> but they went on a hot streak. >> That's not true. First game they won by like what 15 points? >> 10? >> No, it was 10. >> 10 points. That's a That's That's good. >> Cat went up. The second game he dunked on Wimby. >> He was going He had 21. He led He led a team in scoring with 21. >> It just Knicks don't feel like a no dynasty team. Yeah. Hey, >> that's what I'm saying. You gotta make trades. >> We don't know. We don't know. >> You gotta make trades. >> I like that's what I The only way to get a lot better is to sign and trade Mitch and package him with Josh Hart or Mikuel Bridges and you get a don't have to be AD, but it's got to be a bigger big than old LeBron. >> I say Giannis, man. you go get, you automatically number one contenders cuz the Knicks I don't think the Knicks going to be the the team to beat next year. They ain't going it's going to be Boston. It's going to be um wherever go. Knicks ain't the team to beat next year. I already know that. Watch. >> Beat Boston. >> Jersey, you're muted, by the way. >> They win a championship. >> No, I'm just saying I'm just saying the media, you know what I'm saying? How the media perceive teams, they're not going to be like, "Oh, the Knicks is the team to beat this year." >> I'm a realist. I don't care about that, man. Like, we got dogs, man. We like fact like it shows the facts like them [ __ ] is they they they dogs they they gritty they gonna keep fighting like I said they in their prime they vet their true vets and happen to tonight as Bernie M said >> and three and three of their starters been playing together since college >> the first the first duo of college teammates to win a championship in 60 plus years I might had. So, I mean, like, come on, man. You gota just give us some respect, man. Like, I don't this whole Magna ball [ __ ] You know how many times I shot a basketball that that that did the [ __ ] toilet bowl and all this [ __ ] man? Like, it's [ __ ] It's It's physics, man. >> We see that all the time. So, you know, with that whole rim around the rim [ __ ] we see that every >> day. The crazy thing is I can give uh credit to all the Knicks except for breast. I just I can >> That's fine. That's fine. But I want to hear some credit. Like the way I be hearing it. I heard two Detroit people on here said, "Yo, I give y'all all the respect. Just win it and you shut [ __ ] up." >> Well, well, brother, >> they still gonna hate and talk [ __ ] That's what I told him. >> But just to let you know, I ain't no Detroit guy. I'm a Chicago guy. And I give respect to the team. >> They're well built team. They got chemistry. I just don't see a dynasty. You gotta get you gotta get a big that's I don't know. I just think Robinson's not a true athlete. That's He ain't gonna stay healthy. He don't play a lot of minutes either. And then Cat Cat's not Cat's um He's not He's fragile, too. >> You got to trade him because his value his his value went up now after this. >> Let's keep it a brick. Let's keep it a brick. This ain't the first This ain't the first finals Cat's been to. I think it was. >> Wait, what was the other finals? He was >> the first first um conference finals though. >> Not yet, it is the first finals, but he been to what was it? Two West West Coast conference finals. He been to two. I >> I don't know. I think it was one. I think >> he went Jimmy Butler in Minnesota. >> I can't I think it was one though. It was just like he went to three straight. He went to he he was West Coast one time. >> Was he in the Western Conference Finals? I don't remember. I think it was one with the >> definitely once I think it might went two more times. So it's three straight times in conference finals and then one time in the championship. >> I mean as soft as he is that's pretty good. >> But he not soft though. That's that's just >> Yeah, I don't get they Yeah, that's what I'm saying. >> They told him about his personality and [ __ ] man. He not soft. >> Put him in a box and stuff, man. That's all. But when >> well um let me ask um the brother that said that um he can't give Jayla Brunson any credit. Who who was that? >> That's me Tupac. >> For me, >> Tupac. All right. Peace. I I ain't trying to I ain't trying to go talk greasy to you. My question is why would you not give credit for for this for this moment? >> Um because he's an obvious industry plant. He's an obvious, you know, fake politics star. And that's not to like say that he's a bad guy or that like he don't deserve it cuz I'm sure he worked his ass off. I'm sure he put in all them hours, you know, little dude, you know, trying to even make it into the league is is amazing for a guy like him. But now he's put in that position he's in due to nepotism, due to uh you know, and it goes back to it starts with the Mavericks really like the the situation he was in with the Mavericks had to do with the culture of the Mavs, but that's a whole separate comic. >> Nepotism though, but he ain't famous and [ __ ] >> Do you do you nobody like that to the NBA, their fathers and their grandfathers? Like I said, JB Bickerstep dad was an excellent coach in the NBA. He has still has ties within the NBA. Nobody's saying nothing about JB Bigger Staff being a Nepo baby. Let's just stop >> with the coach. >> Yeah, his dad was a coach. JB >> Yeah, but nobody cared about the coach and [ __ ] Like, you know what I mean? >> What do you mean? What? What do you >> No, we talking about players cuz we we talking about the players on the floor who are able to >> NBA. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Jersey, my whole point is >> NBA baby, >> Jersey. I'm talking about players on the floor get an opportunity to beat a player off the dribble, hit a jumper, and be looked at as that guy, right? >> LeBron's leaving. You got to have >> I'm saying I'm saying Jaylen Brunson, he don't pass the eye test. He just doesn't. >> How you pass? He scoring 40 Michael >> because when I watch him because when I watch him play, I see a I see a Bobby Jackson level player with with the super whistle. That's what I see. I'm just being honest. >> A Bobby Jackson with the Kings. Yeah. Yeah. Bobby Jackson with the Kings was bad. >> Yeah. And Bobby Jackson was nice. That's my whole point. And that's And I low key I lowkey feel like that's disrespectful to Bobby cuz cuz I personally think Bobby is better in in a vacuum. But in today's game, in today's game, you give a guy a super whistle, you make his dad the coach, you give him his college teammates, put him in the the the Jaylen Brunson universe. Right now he feeling like that, then yeah, it is what it is. >> He's moving my way, bro. It's moving my way to win a championship. >> It's moving my way to win. >> Tupac, let me ask you a question. Tupac. >> Yo. Yo, >> Tupac, do you subscribe to the magnet ball theory? >> I know, but I think it's possible. I think >> Okay. You think it's possible? So, so, so, so you would think that the fact that Jaylen Brunson scored 45 points tonight is because of a Magna ball, right? >> No, I I don't think it's magnet balls. I'm saying I think it's possible, but I don't think it's likely. But what I say is they don't need to do that because what they do is is all of a sudden basketball is the most subjective game by far, right? What what constitute a foul versus what constitutes good defense just complete. It's damn near just 100% opinion. And I know they have rules in the rule book saying, well, technically if they do, but in real time, a a lot of it is super subjective. So basically, if they just decide to if they just decide to, you know, franchise tag a guy and say this guy is important and and we're a part of his story today, we're living in his he's the main character and we're looking at it through his lens. Yeah. Things are going to look like fouls instead of just like a guy who's unable to beat the man off the dribble for real. >> So that's why so that's why we have a league today, right? Full of chunky ass, you know, uh you know, white boys, biracials, all types of things. I don't want to take it too far, but uh- with cankles with cankles and armpit fat who can't beat nobody off the dribble, but they getting foul calls. Why? This is how you get a Danny Adva now looking at now getting looked at as a great rim attacker and no other era is this man being a rim. I'm being dead ass with y'all, but go ahead. >> All right, let me say this. I'mma leave it alone. Let me say this. I'mma leave it alone. You know, you know, you know how many points Jaylen Brunson would have had tonight if he didn't hit any free throws? 45. >> The free throws don't matter. It's the fact that it's the fact that he can't be touched. >> Wait a minute. Do you know how many points J would have had if he wouldn't have hit any free throws? >> 32. >> Uh, >> exactly. Now, is that is that a lot of points or is that a bad showing? 32. >> It's a lot of points in the '9s. It's not a lot. >> 30 32 points when you're getting guarded like you have. is a lot of points in a finals game period. >> But in the con giving you a hypothesis, >> eight point eight points from the record, >> bro. He's a scorer. He's not supposed to be defending. Everybody knows that already. So why everybody keep bringing up he don't play two two sides of the ball? >> What I'm trying to get at is [ __ ] like this. before he went to Dallas >> before he went to Dallas. If if I was a GM and I called any one of y'all, right? If I was a DM of uh Toronto and I had OG and Anobi and and you were the GM of Dallas and you called Toronto and said, "Hey, I got this Jaylen Brunson guy and I'll trade you him for OG and Ani," the the Toronto GM would laugh at you. You'd be like, "Are you crazy?" Right? Right. If you called the GM of the Nets, said, "I'll trade you Jaylen Brunson for Mau Bridges," the Nets GM would laugh at you. Right? Most GMs would laugh at you. Right? If you said I'll trade you Carl Anthony Towns for Jaylen Brunson, the the GMA who has C going to laugh at you. But you that's what I'm saying. You change circumstance. No, no, no. Back before he went to the Knicks, right? And I'm saying, but you change circumstances. You change politics. You make his dad the coach. You make him the most comfy [ __ ] in the world. Now all of a sudden you looking at him better than these guys who are number one picks. And it's it's a lot of fake [ __ ] It's a lot of fake politics. >> But bro, he won in college though. He's you know how many awards he won in just say something real quick man. >> Hey I keep talking about his dad. He cannot help before he was born. Leon Rose and and his dad got a had a relationship. Leon Rose when I say relationship I'm talking about business. That was his first player as a agent transferring from a lawyer. And that was Rick Brunson's first agent period. So they got a connection going way back before Brunson was even thought about. >> But that didn't open any doors. He he opened his own doors. >> So So let's stop let's stop doing that. Like >> Yeah. He he didn't get anything that he's earned everything he's gotten. >> Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like >> they they got their own type of Brunson don't got nothing to do with them. They they just got a brotherhood. NBA is about brotherhood. So it's just like and and agents too. Like I said, that was Leon Rose's first player as an agent. So, he he going to rock with Rick Brunson. Like, >> yeah, most players don't have that type of built-in infrastructure before they even get to a team. >> I respect y'all, but how many people salute loyalty these days? >> You can't help that. That's something they got. They got something. >> Jersey, LeBron James ain't even been as comfortable with a front office as Brunson is with this like team. That's LeBron James. Nobody earned it more than him. >> That's two different type of uh um >> Yeah, he didn't put the pressure on himself. >> Even Kobe Bean ain't got that comfortability with a front office. >> That's not true. Kobe Kobe ran LA. That's not true. >> No, he still, you know, >> he talking about at first though. At first, >> you remember uh what's his uh Mark Cuban? He said, "I knew he was good. I didn't know he was that good." Yeah, that was >> and then but he he he was in the final year of his contract and whatever stud point guard they had I don't at the time got injured and he went off like the whole second half of the year and it's like [ __ ] do I really need two short who was the point guard um >> but like do we need two short point guards like he should have tra signed a traded him but that ain't always easy >> he was coming off the bench though he was coming off the bench >> the Mavs have a separate culture thing. That's a whole separate discussion. But they they don't believe they didn't believe in Brunson to be actual talent. They believe that they were the ones who created Brunson just like the Knicks created Brunson now. >> So like they feel like I created another Brunson like you know what I mean? So they you know they got they got Kyrie and they considered it an upgrade >> and it was in the short term you know >> and give and give credit for this. >> Well, you ain't got to give him nothing. You know you grown. You can give credit where you want to give it. He took a pay cut. >> Oh, they said that. Yeah. >> Yeah. Which which which also shows you what he truly Yeah. Which also shows you what he truly thinks of himself. >> That shows you what he truly think of himself deep down. Yeah. Yeah. I don't respect pay cuts. When Since when do [ __ ] respect pay cuts? That's another thing I love to talk about. Since [ __ ] Why a pay cut? That's a [ __ ] That's a [ __ ] Cannot spin that. >> So LeBron, if LeBron's time for a dollar, we going to look at that as some real [ __ ] If LeBron's for a dollar tomorrow and play with a with a bunch of all star who making a dollar, we looking at that as some real [ __ ] No, the whole point is The whole point is to get paid all the money. Get paid all the money and win. That's the whole point. Get paid all the money and win. >> You trying to tell me that's what Kobe did. That's what Jordan did. They don't pay us for what? For who? [ __ ] WHAT I NEED A PAY CUT FOR? I'm that good. What the hell? >> A pay cut the whole time when he was with the Bulls. >> No. What the hell? Come on. >> The Saturday is >> still the highest paid player in the league. Come on. >> No, Jordan took a pay, bro. You wasn't around. He wasn't You was just a baby leg when Jordan was playing. I'm telling you, Jordan was taking pay cuts, bro. You >> pay Jordan was the first $3 million a year guy. Like, >> yeah. What are we talking about? Jordan was the first guy to make three million. Magic was the first one to have a million dollar a year contract. But Jordan Jordan didn't push and push and push to go from three to six to 10 because he had 90 million years. >> That was just the culture. He just made sure I'm the highest paid guy. >> He had So what I'm hearing what I'm hearing is not modern NBA culture. He's he's being a good I just take some crumbs. Can I just get a little bit like what I'm hearing from you. I'm hearing it. I'm hearing it cuz he know he don't deserve it. It's part of the deal. I'll take whatever you give me and you push me and do the politics. Make me a star. He grateful. A grateful contract. Smells desperate. Absolutely. Check. >> He took a pay cut. He took a pay cut so they could get capped. That's why he took a pay cut. Yeah. >> So what So what so what I'm hearing is if I think so highly of myself, I'm going to take less money. >> No, it's >> exactly. I'm not going to take less money. >> That's the psych. So I'm take [ __ ] who stack the deck by taking less money. That's >> I'mma take less money so I can get a call. Anthony Towns. That's how >> I think about Right. Right. That's weak. Take a pay cut. You're the nice guy in the media. >> [ __ ] being the nice guy. I don't care about being the nice guy in the media. I care about I care about being the goat by be by by winning and having the most money and getting what I deserve. [ __ ] that's >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. So you saying so so now you saying that the purpose of an NBA player is not to win a championship? >> No. The purpose is to win. >> While being while being compensated as if you're the best. >> All right. He going to be compensated. He about to be compensated next two years. >> So if I make So if I make a $100 a week and then they tell me, "Yo, we going to bring this [ __ ] over, but you going to make $80 a week, but we going but but when we but when we bring this [ __ ] over here, y'all going to win a chip." >> No. No. No. No. No. You ain't going to take $80 a week. It's you. It's you at your job taking a pay cut so they can hire another worker and and they just say, "Hey, uh, hey, hey, Jersey, we going to give you a nice certificate every every year thanking you for taking that pay cut." [ __ ] hell no. [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] I I will carry the company and give me my money. That's it. >> You know, Tupac and I'll take the sponsorship for [ __ ] HS and McDonald's that you have connections. >> Is James Dolan taking a pay cut? No. What are we talking about? All right. So, let me Yo, Tupac, let me ask you a question. Yo, so you saying LeBron So, you saying LeBron didn't think he was like that when he went to Miami? >> Absolutely. That was a [ __ ] move. That's why we don't respect it. He took the $50 million a year. It was a pay cut at the time. D Way took a pay cut. Chris, that was a [ __ ] move on all of them. For real. To take a pay cut when you're prime. It's a [ __ ] move for real. Boss went from Bos points a game to like in two years later was down

To like 12. Bosch was good, dude. Chris and we. I ain't saying he wasn't good, but I'm saying we don't respect the titles for none of them because they all took pay cuts.

"The hell?"

"Hey. Hey, tell tell him what Jordan did with the pay cut. Tell him what Jordan did with the pay cut."

"He got 90 million in a year from Nike and didn't care about [ __ ] arguing over three versus four million. And then he probably should have said, 'Give the [ __ ] money to Pippen.' That was the most under underpaid player for [ __ ] a decade. Pippen got [ __ ] screwed. Tony Cuckoo was making more than Pippen before he even [ __ ] played one minute. Pippen's an allstar champion [ __ ] making I think it was like the hund was likeund and something the best complicated. He was like 132nd paid player and he's an allstar saying why I sign an eight-year deal? I [ __ ] myself."

"Oh yeah, you're right. Yeah, because they went and got Ray Allen from Boston. Yeah. Yeah, you're right about that [ __ ]"

"I just want people out there to know that wasn't born during that time. Like Jordan Jordan wasn't like um chasing like big the big money, the big contracts. Like he was trying to uh do whatever it takes to to help the team and and and that's what that's all we were saying Brunson is doing. He's showing that he once again."

"That's what I'm saying."

"Person. He's not selfish. He's."

"Yeah. He adjusting to the salary cap too. It's different."

"It is. He's a smart individual. Like he see the bigger picture. The money ain't going to go nowhere."

"He know he going to make it later. He about to get a shoe. Like watch the next scene. He about to get endorsements, shoe deals."

"You get a sponsorship, you get endorsement that covers all that [ __ ] right away. And you're a good guy in the newspaper. Day one, you walk in the building. Yeah, I took a pay cut. Never mind. I [ __ ] it. And an endorsement. Hes 30 million to cover it."

"Yes, sir."

"Well, I mean, he got it now. I mean."

"I mean, he earned it. He had to put the work in."

"Jordan didn't take no pay cut from what I'm looking up on Google. But."

"Jordan came in the number one, dude."

"Never actually took a pay cut. Instead, his massive final contracts completely eclipse the NBA team salary cap."

"I'm tell you, young man. Yo, Pac, I watched the '90s basketball. They used to pull up."

"I'm older than you, Jersey. I'm 59. I was born in uh 60 67 class uh 85."

"You sound like about 27. Salute."

"I thought he was I thought he was like 20 something, bro. I ain't going to lie, bro."

"What's Jordan's highest."

"Now? When it comes to basketball, I'm 59."

"All right. Oh, hold up. Hold up. No, stop. So."

"Oh, he said when it come to basketball, so he ain't 59."

"Let me just ask you something. Is that priced? Why I'm saying radio voice?"

"What was What was Jordan's highest salary ever? Like 35 million, but he was also the first one to ever make three million a year. What did he say?"

"Jordan was the first one to ever make three million a year, but I think he a decade later he made the most he ever made in one year from the Bulls salary was like 35."

"It was 30 when the uh team salary cap was only 27. He was making more than the entire team salary cap."

"What year was that?"

"Yeah, but there was."

"90 when they didn't have the rules established yet. That was in 97 98."

"Totally different rules. Later on we."

"Yeah, to make up for all them other years."

"He's the only player getting paid more than entire team salary cap saying bro that he already won six after he dec after he got paid whatever that's what they saying about Brunson like he's not."

"It's really just the fact that he signed a eight-year contract way in 1988 so he wasn't they weren't thinking like that you know what I mean."

"I'm just saying that's how he did it he signed a 20 it says right here 8year $25 million contract in 1988. So that's four years after he got drafted."

"Are you [ __ ] pimping?"

"Or the what? Two years after he got drafted."

"Are you talking four years? My bad. Uh I'm talking Jordan."

"Jordan drafted 86 or 85 draft? 85?"

"No, he got drafted 84, right?"

"Yeah. 84. The contract came two years after he was in the league. But he signed eight contract with [ __ ] Nike. He already done."

"Listen, I'm going just be honest. Players back then weren't as good businessmen and negotiators. He was just like 25 million money. That was a lot."

"That was It was."

"That was like a hundred million dollars back then. You got to understand the times we were in. Like."

"But he was still worth more than that."

"Wasn't money hungry. He was about the team. That's all we trying to say."

"But even a hundred million eight-year contract, it just sounds nice. You know what I mean? But we didn't know. We just like, damn. All right. That's a lot. Would y'all would y'all would y'all believe how much of a pay cut Jaylen Brunson took to to get Cat over there? It was 50 mil, right?"

"35."

"No. No."

"What was it?"

"113."

"Yeah, that's crazy."

"Oh, no. No one does that. He's."

"That's what I'm saying. That's how you know it's fake. That's how you know he That's how you know he don't deserve it. There's something going on."

"113. He want to win. He wants to That's what he does. He wants to win. He don't care about the money."

"He don't care. Not every dude that got money want money. They want other things, bro. Like everybody want all the money."

"Video boys. Uh."

"He don't even he don't even live he don't even he don't even live ex he don't even live like that type of like he don't have all those cars. Like he don't care about that type of [ __ ]"

"He live like Shaq. But you don't want to be disrespected like that. you he's he's getting the sponsorships and the endorsements under the table and [ __ ] like got caught."

"He said that he said that himself. He don't already care about all that. He got everything he need in life, bro. He got a family radio."

"He got all that [ __ ] He don't care in the chat. He said Pippen screwed himself. I don't know what he talking about, but he said that."

"Pippen did he did."

"Pippen said Pippen comes from a a poor family and he's like the oldest of like eight or 10 brother sisters and his dad was dying from cancer when he was like when he just got drafted and the first chance he got to do a contract, uh Rinsdorf gave him, hey, you could do a short term and I recommend it or I'll give but if you want the most money you you just wanted you you kept asking your agent, 'What's the most I can get now? What's the most I can get now?' Well, it have to be more years and we don't recommend it because we got a new TV deal or whatever coming up. And he he jumped at whatever it was like eight years, 17 million. It was [ __ ] gross. And then he watched a hundred players get paid more than him for like at least three, four, five years. He's an allar. He's going to the finals. And it's like."

"They was robbing them dudes back then. They was robbing them dudes back then. They wasn't getting paid the money they supposed to get."

"And that [ __ ] [ __ ] Rinorf's like and I'm we are not renegotiating. I'm telling you it's a bad deal. Do not sign this. And he's like you don't know what it's like to have a dad die from cancer and have eight brothers and sisters. Poor as [ __ ] Like Pippen as a rookie, Jordan made him cry and [ __ ] He would after the team lunches and [ __ ] he would go take halfeaten sandwiches out of the [ __ ] garbage and [ __ ] wrap him up for his eight brothers and sisters, dude. Like, and Jordan got pissed and said, 'Why you doing that shit?' And that's where they started the bond. Pippen just told him the truth, man. And he's like, 'Holy [ __ ] man. You got like Pippen was wearing like shoes with like broken shoelaces [ __ ] his first couple years.' And [ __ ] George's like, 'Quit acting poor. you're in the league now. And he's like, 'This is why I do this.' And that's when they started bonding, dude. It's like, 'Holy [ __ ] man.'"

"Oh [ __ ]"

"Yeah. Just like Brunson, man. Chill, man. Just like Brunson."

"Piffing. Central Arkansas. Like it just."

"Oh, no. Damn. I ain't I ain't know all that."

"I think like Rodman Robin's from an even smaller school."

"Robin stories Rob Dennis Robin stories [ __ ] up, too. Yeah, but the eight the eight siblings and he he felt like he had to do, you know, take care of the family like."

"Yeah. Dad dying cancer."

"Crazy."

"Yeah, that [ __ ]"

"And you could tell like Pip in his younger years like holy [ __ ] He looked like a baby deer out there. Like man, you got a lot of you got 20 30 pounds to add before your [ __ ] like you knew he had years to grow into his body."

"So I see the arrogance with Pippen now though. Hey, last thing real quick."

"Family like that. I I get it now."

"I don't think Dylan Harour got enough [ __ ] for tonight. He was trash in that fourth quarter."

"No, the foul was called nontop."

"Until he missed that free throw."

"Look, he fouled Brunson for three free throws. A dumb foul. Then he uh he he did two stupid ass one of them floating scoops in a row. I hate his little floating scoop old man layups. I hate them shits. Uh he he missed two of them wide open in a row trying to be all smooth and nice. Uh then he did then he missed two free throws at the end. Like."

"What are we doing? He get no criticism because he's just the go the new young golden boy right now. Like this is crazy."

"So I'm going say this. I'm going say this."

"It's a little too casual. He he does do it with both hands."

"And he waits till he's on the way down to try to look all cool. Like it's it's it's."

"The Spurs the Spurs have the Spurs have good they have great they have good players that have the potential to be great. They just are young and it's nothing wrong with being young. But if you ain't never been there before, you gonna play like you never been there before. The squad that's been there. Well, now I'm not saying that the Knicks have been to the finals before, but they've been progressing regularly in the postseason. So, when you got a team like that, they going to play anxious, especially when they especially when they lost a 30point lead."

"They ain't closing games."

"They play like rookies. They They coming in there young and giving all their energy in the first half. What I'm say next year."

"Why uh next year watch these guys."

"All they really needed to do was tell Wemby shoot half as many threes and just go [ __ ] dunk on people like."

"No, he can't cuz cat too strong, man. Cat Mitch, those those dudes in the weight room."

"Or."

"That's why he stay out."

"Get Ellie Oops. Go stand in the corner three and then sneak down for Ali Oops. That's you be finishing 70% instead of 30%."

"They need to they need to give up on these on just building a team with with five little Leander Barbosas and then when you know Wy like that [ __ ] is weird like like have some size, have some skill."

"Yeah, I will say this. They're not they're not going to win with a four guard set. You know, they got four guards."

"They were stupid."

"Penny, he's not he's not he's not a forward. He's a guard. They they need they you're right. They need some size. They got to get rid of Fox for."

"They need somebody that could start that got some size on him or."

"They need like whoever would be like a younger I don't not not exactly this guy but like a like a Paul George like a skilled guy who could hit mid-range who get a three a scoreer you know what I mean these guys they got they finished."

"Julius Randle."

"I was just thinking that they need like a Julius Randle."

"I would say Sabonis because he led the league in rebounds three of the last four. I don't know. Julius Randle or."

"It's a bonus or or Alan Sanguin Al Sanguin would be perfect on this thing."

"Sangon."

"Mhm."

"That did play."

"No, I'm think I'm thinking of like who who whoever would be like the modern Rudy Gay. Like a guy who could get a bucket. But."

"They already But he's [ __ ] 20 years old. Carter Bryant."

"Carter Bryant. Not him. Nah."

"Yeah. He's gonna be in about four."

"He looked like another little guard to Yeah, I don't see size with him."

"Oh, he's [ __ ] he's like."

"Nah, he he he look like he about 6'5 maybe."

"He's like an athletic Shawn Elliot or."

"Tired of these little 65 guys. They need a 67 68 score. They can't they can't have three dar pick 20 in the draft. Yel won't last that long."

"They need that's going to play the paint. Don't none of them guys play the paint. None of them."

"They need to trade up for Yaxel. They got pick 20. They need to move up."

"So what are y'all saying that um that when he just like a point guard? He never going to be a big guy like a center."

"I mean when he put some weight on him, give him two years. I think."

"Wendy's playing style is terrible. It really is."

"Do fans want to see the gangly dude shooting threes or do you or do you want."

"Watching KD? He watch He grew up in this new league. But KD grew up as a guard, like an actual guard, like he was making guard moves, hitting mitties and all that."

"When you're that tall and you're going, you know, doing your fadeaway flop half the time he's ending up on the ground, it's like."

"Wouldn't be a big man who just wants to prove to us that he could like, oh, I can hit mid-range like the guards can. I could do it through. But you're not as skilled as him. You're not. It's just a bad."

"Starter basketball. The dude traditionally, hey, do what Kevin Garnett did, but just do it at 77 and [ __ ] dunk one step."

"Even Garnett was more skilled than the ball handler and all that. Like."

"It's nuts. He takes one step from the free throw line, dunks it on people. The range on his dunk is nuts."

"He need to learn how to slash and."

"Man, I'll take I'll take Wy over Garnett even right now."

"You're tripping. You're tripping."

"You're tripping. Was best defender, best rebounder, best teammate."

"Listen, we forget over time because we remember a lot of Boston, but even Minnesota, he had the uh like the Kobe cuz cuz KG looked up to MJ. So that little midi fadeaway uh KG had that and he did it just like Kobe but at 7 foot one. But just he wasn't selfish. He didn't know how to be a selfish offensive player. But he was legit fading on [ __ ] post up mid-range fade."

"And doing a little shimmy like he was nasty."

"KG got by male and male got a lot of [ __ ] Male studied Hakee the dream. Male had moves dude but he just couldn't do what Hakee was doing."

"If KG knew how to be selfish, he he could have been better than MJ. I think I think if you pair the right person with Wimby that team is going to be unstoppable because the Spurs have assets to move to get the right player."

"They [ __ ] shouldn't sign Fox. He ain't no 50 million dude."

"Who's not a 50 million guy?"

"Fox the [ __ ] third point guard that should be on the bench. Yeah, but I think Derek talking about just like he talking about another power forward. Somebody actually like."

"Yeah. Somebody that could Yeah. Somebody that could play the block."

"And they're play block. They don't need all these guards."

"They ain't going to go for Randall cuz he don't shoot threes. They want [ __ ] [ __ ] who?"

"Did y'all hear the commentary today when they call Champenny um a forward? I don't know how tall he is though."

"He's like a 66 dude."

"Bro. He's like 6'5 too. That's what I'm saying. All these 65 guys."

"But they're telling me the NBA bigger today and I see Josh Hart and Champagne at the power for and I'm like, 'Okay, all right.'"

"And then."

"Yeah, Fox used to be good, bro. What happens?"

"Michigan."

"The other Michigan dude um from Morz Johnson. It's like, oh, he's 250 pounds automatic center. It's like, dude, I don't know. He didn't play center in college."

"And he's trying to shoot threes."

"That name sound familiar though. Mozz Johnson."

"Yeah, the Michigan. I guess he played."

"Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. My fault. Yeah, I got you."

"But they're like he's 250 pounds, so he's automatically a center. Like I don't know, man. He's like the size of Nas Reed. Like kind of a They think he's They think Michigan's got two centers and a huge Yakel power forward. I'm like, 'Dude, that's why do you want everyone to weigh 230 lbs?'"

"So, yo, y'all think yo, cuz they want to win so bad. Y'all think they going to give up all their assets to get a whole bunch of good dudes or you think they just going to keep the same team?"

"No, you got to get rid of Fox. You got to dump Fox on."

"They keeping Castle. They keeping Vassel, whatever his name is. They keeping uh."

"Yeah, Vassel is low key and proven."

"What's the other guy? Number three, the defense."

"Dylan Hopper, man. That dude is going to be a problem."

"I don't see it with Dylan Harper like that. I think he's going to be cool, but I don't think he like."

"He's 19 and has counter moves and [ __ ]"

"Like he's got."

"Yeah, but he's he doesn't have like a huge ceiling. Like he's not a super athlete like that."

"Yeah, he's more of a bow and ball."

"When KD first came out, they said he not gonna last. I said y'all crazy."

"G would just had that fire, dude. Intensity. People say that about KD. No, I'm talking about KD."

"Oh, KD."

"KD."

"Oh, yeah. I remember they was saying that [ __ ] He's mad skinny. He was going to get injured."

"I didn't get it. When I seen him at Texas, I was like, 'This [ __ ] don't look human. This [ __ ] look weird.'"

"Yeah. He He looked like it should be."

"Dude. He was so skinny at Texas."

"His jumper was so pure in college. Like."

"Yeah. Just fluid as [ __ ] I was like, 'Fuck, man. This dude's got a chance.' But he he no he's never been the face of the league. Even when he was better than LeBron and didn't get rewarded for it, he just didn't have the personality. Like he's a bad interview and that matters to No, I mean KD in this era got more personality than all the modern day players."

"Kevin Durant."

"It's just he he came in a league where there was a a whole lot of personality."

"Yeah. But."

"Today's league, n KD got more personality than all the stars today."

"But he used to never talk. He used to be like, 'Fuck all you I just want to go hoop.'"

"The Seattle Seahawks I mean Seahawks supersonics like they like he said they wanted him to be something that he wasn't at the time. Like he was just."

"Like I just want a hoop, dude."

"He was old school. Too old school for them."

"And he's like just leave me alone. I'm going to the gym. [ __ ] put my earbuds in. [ __ ] launch some [ __ ]"

"So here's my question. Should should KD get the same amount of vitriol or the same amount of scrutiny that LeBron gets."

"No."

"For leaving for leaving and going to a team."

"Going to a team that just won 73 games is kind of [ __ ] [ __ ]"

"No, but he only did it because Leon already did it. That's it."

"Not 73."

"LeBron didn't join. No. No, but LeBron broke the rules of free agency. So Katie said, 'Okay, well if if y'all gonna forgive him for doing it, I'mma do it and then y'all will forgive me.'"

"That's not the first super. We gonna say this again. This wasn't the first super team. So we can go back to the Houston."

"It was in the cheating sense."

"Drex."

"Yeah, but that's old. That was old people. Like people was cool when you was old to do that. Yeah."

"Look at."

"No, they were old. They were not young spy and and joints popping up to dunk. No. The hell."

"They wasn't old. They was old in NBA years back then. They was old."

"I got a trivia question. Name the first super team."

"Boston Celtics."

"It's the Miami Heat. In the modern sense, it's the Miami Heat."

"Go to you. Go back to the uh to Oscar Robinson with uh with goddamn uh Lu Cinder and um who else here? I could go way back to Super Team."

"No, that was Oscar was already there and they drafted Kareem. So it wasn't like out of in your face. We just."

"Well, when you say super teams, you talking about like signing somebody or you talking about just like all just."

"Trading for someone that's just obviously going to put you over the top like how."

"Oh, trading for somebody. Okay."

"That's I wouldn't say Milwaukee because you already had Oscar and you just drafted Kareem. No brainer. You didn't cheat or do anything shady."

"They had somebody else too. But yeah, but you talking about traded that's different. Um I I don't know. like traded for somebody. I'm thinking about the the Rockets from back in the day with Drexler, like I said, with Barkley and Pippen."

"No, that was that was."

"Yeah, but nobody was going to count that."

"Though, they joined Drexler was like like young 30s. He wasn't even mid30s."

"Barkley got fat and."

"Oh, but back then in that NBA when you hit 30, it was a sharp dive. You was you was like, 'Oh, man.' Yeah. Your NBA."

"Still high flying over [ __ ] man."

"Back then it was different. Today's NBA, you dirt 30. You could play, you know, 20 more years of cone drill ball. Easy. Hands off, handsfree ball. Yeah, it's easy."

"[ __ ] the first the first obvious [ __ ] super team was 83 Philly that lost in the finals the previous year to the Lakers. And then they went out and got the reigning MVP, [ __ ] Moses Malone, who won MVP again and finals MVP to help doc it was all to get Dr. Jay his championship in the NBA before he got too old. He already did his ABA rings, but he needed an NBA ring. And then they also had a Hall of Fame Maurice Cheeks I and the Hall of Fame uh nine-time defender. Bobby Jones. See, I knew you was gonna go back in the day. That's why I was."

"83 cuz they lost the 82 finals."

"They lost 82 finals to [ __ ] Magic Kareem."

"And then they were like, 'Dude, we got to get Dr. J his [ __ ] man.' Cuz Dr. J, he was the face. He was the first one doing commercials. When was was um when when was that that um Philly Philly was Philly was up uh wasn't they up 31 one year and they lost."

"It might have been the Lakers."

"82 Lakers."

"Yeah, it was the Lakers. Yep. That is exactly what it was."

"82 Lakers."

"They was up 3-1 in the finals and they lost."

"Yeah. And then they came back and said, 'Fuck you. We'll go trade for the MVP Moses Malone in his [ __ ] prime. And what's he do? Joins the team, wins MVP again, and he wins finals MVP."

"Mhm."

"Moses, I think he won three MVPs, but played like 25 years, but and he was the first one to come straight out of high school. That dude was just a beast from day one."

"That's what they call chocolate thunder, right? But he was he went the ABA, not NBA as straight out of high school."

"What's his nickname? Chocolate Thunder or some [ __ ] like that."

"That was Daryl Dawkins."

"That's the dude he replaced."

"Like they traded Chocolate Thunder and two other guys for him."

"Okay."

"And and the top draft pick they somehow got. I was like, [ __ ] went to the finals. Now you're adding MVP off a different team."

"So your point is it was super teams way before that. That's basically what you're saying."

"Yeah. Because."

"The NBA's always like when uh Red Hourbach was doing it with Bill Russell."

"And beating up or and always beating Chamberlain. Wink wink. That was just to have the league survive. Like fans in Boston cared more about [ __ ] all the young expansion whatever Utah and year one or and all those Atlanta like Boston and LA was the only thing that made money like Jerry West went to nine he went 0 and 0 and one and one and eight or one and nine against uh in the finals in his career and like Almost all of them are against Boston. He was like 0 and8 before he finally won one."

"That was super."

"Yeah, James Harden is overpaid, bro. Yeah, James Harden in here. That's why he don't win, bro. Cuz he always want all that [ __ ] He want the bag, bro. That's why that [ __ ] don't win."

"Hey, whoever don't contradict yourself if that was you because you said that's what it's all about. Get your money and this and that. So."

"No. No, that was um that was Tupac was saying um."

"Yeah, Tupac. Yo."

"Um."

"Harden Harden's just the odd dude, I think. Like I I think he's like his own agent. He get talks to the owners like just like, 'Hey, you want to go negotiate this shit?' And he builds in all these backup plans where you can just duck out or you can [ __ ]."

"Have the owner."

"I think that's I think that's one that you can't win with."

"Hold on. You broke up. You just breaking up. What' you say?"

"I think that's one guy that you can't win a chip with is."

"Harden."

"I just think a chip with."

"They about to pay him though. They about to pay him. And that's why And that's why."

"Yeah. Cleveland gonna fall off."

"That Brooklyn Nets team. We'll never know."

"Oh, that man."

"I was And you remember that was around the time when Dolan was doing some wild [ __ ] kicking [ __ ] out the garden."

"Yeah."

"I was like watch these Brooklyn next isn't that Junior or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's the."

"His dad wasn't like that."

"Yeah. He was the junior."

"But uh."

"Yeah. Because Oakley said he was cool with the dad. He said but this just the son was always a you know what I'm saying? Was always the [ __ ]"

"Yeah. Cuz you you get [ __ ] handed to you. You take some shortcuts. You didn't."

"See, that's why the Spurs can now say, 'Oh, we we we didn't get lucky from day one. We had the [ __ ] climb through OKC and now we got to climb and we got our ass handed to us by the Knicks.' Just how Jordan had to go against."

"The Pistons and [ __ ] uh I guess Lakers or Magic and Bird were against each other back and forth. Now, Jord Jordan, he he had to go through Boston, but then."

"No, Jordan never got through Boston. He just he got he always lost to Detroit."

"Yeah, I'm saying he had to, but yeah, he always he had trouble with them like Boston and um."

"Well, I the Bulls the Bulls team and coach were nowhere close depth wise, talent-wise, coachwise to Boston. But, you know, Bird was how many years older? He was drafted what? 78 with Magic or the year year before year after."

"Well, yeah. 78 79 something like that."

"Yeah. So, Bird Bird and Jordan's peaks or primes, I should say, primes didn't match up. But I mean [ __ ] like Bird was won three MVPs and was runner up like nine straight years to start his career. That's [ __ ] up. Or or maybe it was like year two or three and then he ran off nine in a row either first or second in MVP voting."

"Yeah, Bird was a bad [ __ ]"

"Yeah. Like there's a steal by a bird. Like that [ __ ] just ruined Isaiah Thomas' career. But yeah, I just hate like how the new generation they talk about super teams and LeBron did this, but like LeBron didn't start that [ __ ] That's all. LeBron I think LeBron is and uh KD are both like predicting the future kind of like LeBron's like obviously three other dudes in this situation will do this if they're if we've all played on the Olympic teams together and got kind of get brought up at the same time together like I'm sure you know."

"I mean you got to look at it like this LeBron came in there I mean LeBron lived up to the hype."

"Yeah."

"He came in and he lived up to the hype and he went to a Cleveland team."

"That was not getting players. I think the best player LeBron might have ever had was Mo Williams."

"Yeah."

"That's it."

"They chose [ __ ] uh Antoine Jameson over Amari, a younger Amari Starter. One was Hey, that's what I'm talking about. They were one was still capable of scoring 20. The other one wasn't. Yeah, they they picking up Larry Hughes."

"Larry Hughes for five."

"Yeah, [ __ ] they have Who did they have? Uh."

"Ilgos was the only one."

"And then they have they picked up Varile. Like what are they doing?"

"[ __ ] uh."

"I'm out of here."

"Seven years I'm gone. And I'm and I I'm carrying the team on my back. Seven years and y'all can't get nobody. LeBron was like a smaller Patrick Euan without like a strong team basically."

"It It kind of seems like it was meant to be though, you know?"

"Yeah."

"Like his his I his best uh what the [ __ ]"

"This [ __ ] had ilkis. He had Ilgowskis and he had Ben Wallace eventually at the end of his career. And."

"Oh my goodness, he have Jack. Didn't he have."

"350? He had a 350 pound sha."

"And Jack's just having fun like just got me another ring."

"You get me Shaq. Shaq ain't even a Shaq. He a [ __ ] He a house at this point. He ain't a shack though. Shaq's like, 'Yeah, they overpaid me. [ __ ] it. I'll I'll come [ __ ] hang out with the new young kid. [ __ ] it.' Oh, don't expect that's the win or nothing. [ __ ] I'm 35."

"I'm going I'm going too. [ __ ] y'all."

"[ __ ] old ass [ __ ]"

"I'm out of here. It was kind of meant to be though. Like."

"And you know he you know he young so he out he he gonna be outspoken. Get me some [ __ ] players. They gonna go get him [ __ ] Larry Hugh. He chose Jameson over a 20 point Maramari. That was [ __ ] nuts."

"Yeah. Seven years in seven years in the league with with with that Cleveland team. Like what you expect him to do after seven years? You know what I mean?"

"Yeah."

"When when you saw him take that jersey off after they lost, I was like, 'Dude, he's gone from Cleveland. I just don't know where he's going.'"

"Oh, yeah. I thought."

"I I thought it was going to be like the Knicks or something. I sure as hell didn't think [ __ ] Bosch and Wade. What the [ __ ] Super like and then a year later after you lose the Durk, you're boom, adding Ray Allen and win two in a row."

"And you and you want to know And you want to know how Cleveland knew that they [ __ ] up? When they got him back, guess what they did? They went and got him Kyrie and Kevin Love."

"They shouldn't have done Kevin Love. I mean it worked out but I I [ __ ] who was it? I remember two dudes I would have chose over Kevin Love."

"I mean with that Kevin I mean."

"He was good."

"Kevin Love did not play Kevin Love did not play like he was playing."

"Right."

"Well, and Boss before that with Miami. Kevin 12."

"And Kevin Love was what [ __ ] he was."

"[ __ ] dropping dimes easy 10 12 rebounds but I mean Kyrie Kyrie came in [ __ ] fast."

"I hate I hate that word rigged. I'm looking at the uh comments. They said that the 2012 uh Miami vers OKC was rigged. The what?"

"The 2012 Miami verse. Uh."

"It was sketchy because Dwayne Wade shot 25 free throws in the to he had more free throws attempted than the other team and like half of them are in the fourth quarter. They had a lowcoring defensive game. like you're the only one that's like he scored I don't know 30 35 points and it was like 25 free throw attempts and you made like almost all of them. Everything you do you get fouled and you go to the line you're just [ __ ] young stud making everything clutch cuz Shaq wasn't doing [ __ ] Anton Walker was actually a bad teammate."

"James Posey played D."

"They had Lamar Odum Miami. No, I thought they had ODM."

"They No, they got ODM when."

"In Yeah."

"They sent out ODM and u two other people to LA to get chat. So, Odum never want a ring with Wade."

"Anybody, my fault. I ain't mean to change the subject, but anybody going to the Knicks uh parade besides me?"

"Yeah, I'm there."

"I ain't flying."

"I'm near."

"Man, I ain't flying."

"I'm dead."

"You don't got to tell the world where you flying from, but if if I had to fly, I'm I'm flying."

"I'm n."

"Hell yeah."

"I'm flying right now. So you don't think I'm flying when I."

"I'd [ __ ] party with the Alvarado."

"I love how you say Alvarado and the Alvarado is funny. I love it."

"I think he just had all the connection to [ __ ] bunch of [ __ ] chicks I don't usually hang out with. He'd be on [ __ ] speed dial."

"That Puerto Rican parade gonna be lit."

"What?"

"I think it started uh yesterday. It started today, matter of fact. End Sunday."

"Yeah, it starts today. Yeah. Are they gonna burn [ __ ] like crazy Philly fans?"

"Nah. Nah. It's It's too much going on out there right now. You got the You got the Puerto Rican Day parade. You got the You got the um."

"[ __ ] sexy ass [ __ ]"

"You got the World Cup. Nah, they ain't that they ain't going they ain't going to wild out like that."

"Something that World Cup [ __ ] gonna be in Philly though."

"Philly just [ __ ] nuts."

"Game in Philadelphia or some [ __ ] like that. Philly, they had people eating [ __ ] horse [ __ ] off the [ __ ] street. Ain't um ain't it a um a game in Metife in Metife this year?"

"I don't know."

"For the World Cup is in Philly right now."

"It's in Philly."

"Tomorrow or some [ __ ] cuz my people is gonna go to that game. Village is [ __ ] intense if you go at the wrong time."

"Yeah, they was talking about the Knicks parade going to be like Thursday."

"Oh, they're saying Thursday on the news."

"And the Filipino."

"And the Filipinos will be there too."

"Oh yeah, no doubt. Jordan Clarkson."

"I'd resign him just for that."

"I ain't gonna lie, man. This [ __ ] didn't really hit me yet. You know what I mean? I I know I'm."

"Hey. Hey yo. Hey yo. Yay."

"Yo."

"We did it."

"Yes, sir. I That's why I said."

"We did it."

"You're both born Knicks fans."

"Yeah. Yeah. I'm from I'm originally from uh from Patterson. I'm from Jersey. But yeah, my dad used to take me to the uh Patrick Yuan and."

"Charles in the day. I used to be up in there."

"Hell yeah. [ __ ] Before that."

"Johnny Newman went up against Jordan."

"Johnny Newman."

"Johnny Starks."

"Lando Blackman. Trent Tucker."

"What's that [ __ ] What's that dude name? He was a power for say Lance, but it's not his name. It's."

"Oakley and Mason."

"It's another guy. [ __ ] Charles Smith, the one that cried."

"I think it was Charles Smith."

"Horace Grant and Pippen blocked them five times in a row and then the clock expired and then I saw him cry. I'm like, 'Dude, I thought you were going to be good, but you're not.' Like, I mean, it would suck to end a game like that, but dude, you can't just instantly cry. Gota [ __ ] Yo."

"OG Anobi saved when Josh Hart went up and he didn't dunk that [ __ ] last game."

"Yeah."

"He's got no He's got no [ __ ] no flash. He's just He's just smart. He's good. He's the teammate you want."

"What you talking about? Heart."

"OG."

"You supposed to."

"Heart's got swag, dude. He's [ __ ] doing [ __ ]"

"You remember when when Hart H Heart was by himself? He was all by himself and he and he ran down the lane."

"And he went up and he didn't he didn't yam me. He put up he put up like a two hand."

"Yeah, he got caught in between."

"What that?"

"Yeah, he didn't know what he jumped too early."

"He was looking over his shoulder for what's his name? And he's like, 'Do I need to dunk over here or here or should I just [ __ ] it lay?'"

"He was playing for the foul, too. He should have just went strong. He jumped too he."

"Jumped too early."

"I felt bad for him. I don't know what that was, man."

"I don't feel bad because it was plenty of time left to make up for that [ __ ]"

"But no, Heart's got swag, dude. And he he fires up sleepy ass [ __ ] Mitch Robinson. [ __ ] makes him get an extra couple boards a game. Like those two are a good tandem, but not like they're they're fun tandem. I don't There's a lot of teams that have similar type players. It was good enough to win."

"But no, that's He's He's one of those dudes that's got some [ __ ] some [ __ ] fire."

"Like I grew I grew up with Jordan and the Bulls. Like Cuck Coach was clutch as [ __ ] but he was sleepy as [ __ ] Like the dude smoked cigarettes and like, 'Oh, you guys need me to come out here and just every time I get it just shoot at three and make [ __ ] half of them?' Like you realize you just did that at the end of the third quarter and you know nine a nine-point run because everyone else playing defense and you just sleepy go out there and make three threes in a row. Clutch as [ __ ] Didn't even realize he was doing it."

"Smoke cigarettes."

"Tony Cuckoo. Oh [ __ ] He would."

"Not cigars but cigarettes."

"Yeah, cigarettes cuz he's uh where is he from? Uh."

"Like Croatia or some [ __ ]"

"Yeah, Croatia. Exactly where he's from."

"When he finally came over, like he was leaving a place that was actually in in a war at war. Like he like [ __ ] I'm an American now. I'm safe. Like he would eat like I forget what he said to uh there's an interview and he's he would eat a [ __ ] steak before the game. Like what the [ __ ] You eat a steak after the game at Jordan's restaurant. You don't eat a steak at noon and with a glass of wine and and a bunch of cigarettes. Like what the [ __ ]"

"That's wild."

"Yeah, I ain't know that. I'm just listen coach was I mean he's just obviously a different culture but like he was just chill as [ __ ] and then you had like Robin amped up and [ __ ] getting the crowd into it. Robin's good teammate in a way different way."

"Yo, I ain't gonna lie. I never watched like, you know what I'm saying, the World Cup or FEA or none of that when back then. So when who coach came into the league, I was like, who the [ __ ] is this? He's [ __ ] trash. And he mesmerized me. I was like, 'Oh shit.'"

"He like the foreigners before him were that was the the the big white soft [ __ ] [ __ ] white foreigners then like he was one of them that that could actually like [ __ ] Phil Jackson would always play him at power forward and instead of small and he'd get beat up and [ __ ] but he he never backed down but there how many [ __ ] forwarders actually like Da Petra Vic. He died of a car crash."

"Oh, shout out."

"He was sick."

"Who was that?"

"He was like 25 a game and then he like."

"[ __ ]"

"Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he he was Portland drafted him and they kept him on the bench."

"And."

"Then when he left Portland [ __ ] like people knew that like dude this dude's a sharp shooting [ __ ] they he was a dude. I don't know who I'd compare him to. [ __ ] Kevin Martin, [ __ ] Mitch Richmond. [ __ ] Chris Mullen, [ __ ] Denny current day. Like dude was a bucket, man. But it was also weird to have someone die back in those times. Like what? He he was supposed to be in his prime scoring 25 a game. I was on a autobond, no speed limit, dying at 130 mph car accident. That's like That's like um my man um Lyn Bias, man. I wanted to see that guy."

"Oh, [ __ ] That would have been something."

"I wanted to see that guy. Everybody has stories."

"Dude, you There's still some clips out there. And he like, [ __ ] man. He had he had more muscle than Dominique."

"Yeah. I think he was a true power forward bias. He was like."

"He he had power and Dominique Hops, man."

"He was like he was like a Sean Kimp before his."

Time. He had more, he was, I think he was thicker. That's what I'm saying. He was like, he was like a Sean Kemp before Sean Kemp came on, like, but just like a Kemp came in, reindeer skinny. He's, he's probably one of the most forgotten players out there, man. Talk to young people and they're like, "Who?" I'm like, "Get a YouTube clip of Sean Kemp. He was his highlight reels sick."

Yeah, Sean Kemp could fly. That and he, and he, and he did a bunch of antics that no one was doing. He was kicking legs, doing like, like Vince is better and more known, but talk, I always had Kemp right up there with him.

They played like two different positions, too.

When he dunked that on Chris Gatling, I think. And that was the era where, like, you're kind of showboating and making him look like a Gatling. Gatling was cool with it. Like, "Yeah, you even give like low five." Stop that.

But nowadays, they cry and load management and call technical. Dunkin' Hard. Uh, whatchamacallit had a, um, Boston had a dude that passed away. He was nice. He was a captain or some like that. Y'all know.

Was it Rashad? Was it?

Oh yeah, the heart murmurs.

Yeah, he had a heart.

Was it Lewis?

Lewis?

Yeah, Reggie Lewis. He went the high school, high school teams, Bogues and another pro. He was supposed to take over when Bird was gonna retire. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Reggie Lewis doing that song.

Reggie Lewis. Yeah. And then the little tiny, uh, the one the dunk contest with the blindfold. He was like the sixth man spark plug. Oh, what was that little? He wasn't that little.

You know talking about, uh, D?

Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the one the dunk contest with the, with the hand, blindfold. Uh, he wasn't that little.

Yeah, his daughter, his daughter's in the WNBA. She'd be on that Gilbert Arenas' show. Well, she was on there. I forgot.

Hey, Robin's daughter, too.

D. Brown.

D. Brown.

Yeah, D. Brown. D. Brown.

Thank you. Golly, the D. Brown. D. Brown had hops. He's legit.

So he played with Reggie Lewis? I, I didn't realize that.

Reggie Lewis had one of the most successful three-time state champion high school teams with him, Muggsy Bogues, and I forget the third pro, but they went all, they went to the finals like all four years of their high school together.

You said Muggsy Bogues. Muggsy Bogues, Reggie Lewis, and I forget the third.

Oh, wow.

It's like a Virginia, maybe.

Hey, can I ask you something, man? Who, who your team? Like, who, who do you root for? Like?

I grew up Bulls, man. I've been to the highest highs when I was a teenager, or I think if I was 10 years old when I was watching Beat Gentleman Sweet Magic and I was hooked on basketball ever since. And I, I've been to the lowest, lowest, god, worst owner. Hasn't even tried in a decade. So who do you think is worse? That guy, what's his name? Uh, the, the Bulls owner or Dolan Jr.? Who was worse before he?

Oh, I, I can't say. Rhinosf's the worst. Well, he's handed. Reinorf just, he's old and he, he lets his son run it now and his son actually came out and apologized to the fans when he's hiring this new GM and it's like, "Dude, you're, you could tell he's like, like legit, like saying it from his heart, like, 'I apologize.'" Holy, dude, like you really just tuned out on your own, you were just collecting money? Like, damn, dude.

Dolan Jr. apologized today.

Well, yeah, but I was in a way different, you know, mood or.

You said he apologized today.

Well, he said, "I apologize, Knicks fans. It took so long."

Yeah, but he was smiling.

That's just like rich guy talk or whatever.

Oh, so that's how you, that's how you felt about that. Okay. Well, I just like, you know, most of those owners are like, "I was always gonna do it. I just took a little longer than I thought. Now, we'll try and do it again next year."

That's, that's the key. Um, I know, I know it's getting late. I just realized because I'm not even tired, but my allergies is killing me, so excuse me, but, um, how long do you think Leon Rose gonna be with the Knicks? That's what I was going to ask if anybody.

Like you.

How do they, how does this run? Does?

I think, I think Leon Rose right now, after this chip, I think Leon Rose is a yearly participant and Dolan is going to have to pay Leon Rose yearly to keep Leon Rose.

Okay.

Is he?

Because he is the, he is a high commodity right now.

Was he the assistant before taking over?

I don't think so. He just came.

Or was he an agent?

Yeah, he was an agent, lawyer, agent, and then he just jumped right into being a GM. And who, like, how many of these dudes came because of him?

Like they had already traded for Brunson and Cat before him, right?

Nah, he was the reason. He's been with them since, uh, 2019.

Oh, so.

He came around Barrett. He was around with, um, when Mitch and everybody was drafted.

And so he correctly traded Barrett and Quickly. Quickly for OG is the best.

If you, if you James Dolan, you give, you want.

Hold on, say that again. God.

If you Dolan, you give Leon Rose whatever he wants to keep him. But you try, you, you try and lock him in multi-year.

You don't want to get more and more leverage.

I mean, he seemed like he ain't going nowhere. The way he was talking.

Yeah, but then you make him sign it. Like, "Hey, dude. Here's, let's do this normal four-year GM that everyone demands four years guaranteed and why you're so good, you want to do it one year at a time? I know how that goes."

Yeah.

You're gonna double up on me every time. So, I mean, you gotta try four years.

Four years. Okay. And I could see Leon Rose trying to go the one year, one route.

Yeah. But I mean, you don't want to.

You just got to say, "Hey, dude. We're all here until the Brunson's safe."

So, you think they're gonna ride it out to Brunson? Like, call it a quits then? That's what you're saying? I mean, they're all 29, 30, 31.

Yeah, because they got two more years for Cat. Got.

Yeah. And like Cat's body and Mitch Robinson's body ain't long-term bodies that they're like both high-hipped and.

Although the Tigers.

Kept been doing pretty good as far as staying healthy though. I ain't gonna lie.

Yeah. K.

Hey yo. Yeah, I said this. When people come to New York, they stay healthy. It's a, it's, they New York got a better reg, they got a better regime than most basketball teams.

Well, who's the first to do the load management? The Spurs and Kawhi, Toronto and Golden State. It was like winning teams and but like then you get all the Sacramento and that just take it in the wrong direction and then half the league's everyone plays 65 games. Like it seems odd, everyone plays 65 and they miss a lot of away games, but you, you're there for your home, home fans like.

You got to, you got to look at it like Cat was never, everybody say Cat saw.

Well, everyone compared to Jimmy Butler. Jimmy is an animal.

Cat was not soft. He just got injured a lot.

Cat ain't been injured with the New York with the New York Knicks ever. The word soft is should really have been not as intense as Jimmy Butler prefers or not as intense as the leader of a team is. Like he kind of just chilling as I'll be number two guy. It's like, "Dude, you should be trying to lead us." Like Jimmy was like, this. I'm number one guy. If you're going to sit there and smile too much, like get pissed off, dude. Throw an elbow. these I'm better than him. Jimmy was Jimmy was one of might have been, well, no, Pippen outside of Jordan, Pippen and those and those, like, dude, Butler might have been my next favorite, right up there at D. Rose, man. Like Butler just totally late pick, like everything he did was just no one expected him to and he just kept on raising his game.

From a nowhere school, late. I don't know if he was like pick 28 or 32, was just a defensive steals kid and then, oh, you're going to start scoring 12, 15. Wade and Rondo taught him all that. But Butler kind of remind me of, uh, I might be wrong, Michael Finley a little bit.

You remind me of like a Michael Finley.

Yeah. Well, Finley was a Chicago kid, so he had, he always had a little grit to him and scar on his face. Got a hook, like a badass. But Finley, Finley had hops, man. Like Finley was.

Yeah, dude from Wisconsin. Like he was throwing it down. Whereas Butler was more just like, I mean, what he was Marquette, I think. Yeah. The same college that Dwyane Wade went to.

Yeah. Yes, sir.

And that coach was like a defensive coach. Like, you, you're when you play defense, you just know you're playing both sides of the ball. You just learn. You learn how to anticipate. You because you know what, what you're thinking. Like, I don't know how dudes can't play.

Like how Luka or whoever that's suck at defense. Like, how does I don't know, man. Like that's very rare. Like Jordan was the best at both. Clyde Drexler, legit was a really good defender.

Yes, sir. Michael Cooper was the first three and D guy. Like, everyone tried back then. It's like it just raises your IQ of the game and. You know the angles forward and backwards. I know. I've always liked Butler. I just, he's one of the dudes that just kept on improving every. Like, you knew like when he actually believed 100% that he was better than LeBron and when he beat Giannis after Giannis won the championship, he knocked out Giannis the next year. Like he dunking on a dude that's way stronger than him and he's just saying, you. I don't care if you block me. I'm going in your chest and your arms are longer than my entire body. I don't give a. I believe I'm better than you. And that nappy ass bro he had in the bubble like and he was banging the the announcer chick, the redhead.

Yeah. Uh, Rachel Nichols.

Yeah. And then he had to do an interview with her after the game in front of the world like. And he's just sitting there like, "I don't give a. I'm begging that white chick right now. Let everyone hear it."

No, I don't. You really think they? You think he was?

Oh, no. That's, yeah, that's a fact. People, people all heard it and.

Yeah. I mean, you're in the bubble. What are you going to do? Hang out with Cat or whoever?

So, so, so I've heard you talk about the bubble, right?

Yes.

Yeah. That was the time where he called out Cat or like he was at a practice and pissed off at Coach Tibs and then when Tib said, "Uh.

You're just going to lay there?" She's like, "Yeah."

So, a lot of people got some like, you know, soft tissue injuries lately. I, I think.

So, we sat out practice and as soon as Tib said, "Okay, um, we're gonna scream. It's team A, team." And and Jimmy jumped up and like, "I got all the bench dudes and Cat and all the starters. I'm going against them." And he just worked them and and and he's yelled at the owners like, "Pay me. Pay me. You paid the wrong guy." And he, him and all the backups beat him like whatever two games nine or 10, 10 nothing, nine to one and he's just stealing the ball from Cat, blocking like he was just going insane and then the next week, oh no, and then he left, he left practice and it pissed off Tibs a little bit and he went straight into an interview that was probably pre-play with what's uh, Rachel, whatever.

Yeah.

And then her just got wet and then he's like, "Well, it. And he's just like, I gotta, you know, I'm splashing the but like they're in the bubble. They're in the hotel and after there's a, it's on somebody's. It ain't it ain't KG and Paul Pierce's show. What? One of the other shows and one of the dudes like, "I thought someone was dribbling a basketball." He's like, "No, that was that was Jimmy with the, uh, the CN or not CNBC, but with the TN, not TNT. That was the headboard you were hearing, man. It's like, I thought I was dribbling basketball for like a half hour." Yeah. And then someone else like, like I don't know, Jimmy walked out of the room just like another thing in the bubble. Jimmy's room. Like he made it like a coffee lounge or some weird or what's better than coffee? An espresso lounge or whatever. I don't know. Like Jimmy's weird, but he's also weird. And he would like charge dudes if they wanted to get like fancy with the where he had to actually do a little work and and he opened the door just wearing like a towel on. Like, dude, the whole room just smells like. Like I ain't, I ain't going for no espresso today. It was just it was one of those funny ass podcasts. I forget who it was.

So I got, I got, I got a lot of family members that subscribed to the notion that the bubble championship was one of the hardest championships to win.

No. And and when they, and when they break it down to me, I'm like, "I see where you coming from."

It was two against one. And the best player on the court, I hate to say it, but it was Anthony Davis.

He was healthy. It was the best Anthony Davis ever played. It was the peak of his career, actually.

Interesting. Now, this is why this is why my family members say that it's one of the best champion of one of the best seasons, the bubble season.

Well, they say they say because.

What do you mean by best?

One of the best, one of the best championship runs, one of the best seasons ever. They say because everybody was, for lack of a better term, pure. You, you go, you in a bubble, you getting tested every day, every night. If you playing, you ain't got in your system. You, you performing at the best of your abilities because you in a bubble. And I'm like, "Okay, I see where you coming from."

According to the scene, that's before the fake ass.

The Magn.

Yeah, cuz Magno was 2021. What I mean, there's no fans. It would feel like you're at the local YMCA.

You know? I just.

I mean, that's why I think like Jimmy playoff Jimmy kind of like he's like this. I'll make all weird noises out. I'll dunk hang on the hoop, have a nappy throw and like he truly believes he's better than LeBron and LeBron didn't mind. Like, you could LeBron would guard him and then like, "I'm gonna stop right here." And Jimmy just kept on like that's when he perfected his little Euro step, but you know, everyone's got their own Euro step that they make it their own and Jimmy perfected his.

But Anthony Davis was the best one on the court. That sucks to say that.

He was.

And Bam wasn't, Bam wasn't just ready yet.

And I, I don't, I'm not a fan of LeBron's, but I don't, I don't like to talk down. The dude's best basketball body and he kept in that shape, shape. Like you got to give him respect. I wouldn't have done a lot of his decisions, but.

He ain't my top 10 all time, but he's 11.

Hey fellas, I ain't gonna cap, man. My phone about to go dead. I just looked at it.

Dude, it's my second time ever being on one of these things. I hate typing, dude. I was like, "Fuck yeah, he's gonna let me talk." I ain't gonna lie, man. Like I said, when you started talking, I, I shut the up because I thought Cena was playing like a YouTube video or something. I thought you was like one of those videos and I realized I said, "Oh, that's somebody in the stream." I had no idea.

I've never been called anything. Radio voice.

Radio voice. You got like one of those like old school turn to the AM station.

I just, I just smoke a lot of cigarettes like an. And you sound, you sound like you from, uh, you from New York. Honestly, you sound like you from the city.

I'm about 45 minutes an hour out of Chi Town.

Yeah. Okay. That's what's up.

Man, you know.

Hey, hey, they went it off.

Hey yo, yay.

Hey yo, yay.

We did it. I for you.

We did it. You heard.

That's a legit team.

I, I appreciate that too, man. I appreciate that.

There's, there is some bogus teams, you know, like you knew Milwaukee wasn't going to do it again. You knew Phoenix and wasn't.

We did it.

So, you feel, so you feel it's a possibility Knicks go back to back.

They got to, they got to improve, man. Like if Giannis goes to Detroit, that's a huge upgrade. I don't think he's going to. Giannis goes to Milwaukee, makes them a dangerous team. I don't think they have the depth, though. If he goes to Boston, I don't think they got to change the scheme a lot, but they'd probably be favorites.

You mentioned injuries. Giannis is injury-prone, though.

I think there's a lot. The last two years, I don't think he was really injured. They were just like doing this whole trade dance. I mean, you could say that, but some, I, I agree with that. But I'm talking about like even before the last two years, like he had some legit type injuries, though.

So, I, I'll grant you that. But if I could have, outside of LeBron's 20-year body, Giannis might be right number two. I think Giannis can go. What is he like 32? I think he legit can go to his next next guy to go to his 40. Like the dude's one of the freak best bodies out there. Is he the strongest dude in the league? Him and, who's the tattoo guy? He's on Houston now, but he always used to, he'd be on OKC.

Oh, probably Stephen Adams.

Those two the strongest two dudes in the league.

I didn't know that. I ain't think about that whole.

Yeah, you don't really think about strength, strength. But it's easy not to fear no one when you're taller, faster, and hella strong. But yeah, man. New Yorkers, proud of you guys, dude. Didn't drag it out. Just put the nail in the coffin.

I appreciate that. Like I said, the best fans in the world besides the Bulls and the Lakers. Got to put the Knicks up there. You can mention Boston even though they kind of crazy.

Boston's got the history. I mean, they were keeping the league alive. And then Showtime made it profitable. Jordan took it global. Dr. J is the first one to do commercials. Dr. J was smooth, dude.

Big time sneaky contracts. Dr. J doing that.

He got a sneaky ring, too. Moses Malone in his prime. 30 and 15.

Yeah. A lot of people don't think about that, though. So.

I, I just remember like, I was like, Moses got three MVPs. I started looking at his career more cuz I remember him being like 40 years old at on playing 10 minutes a game for like Atlanta, the Spurs. Like, dude played for a dozen teams. I'm like, well, he's the first one from high school. I thought KG was. I Moses dude?

I've heard of him, but I didn't know he was like all-time, all-time. I think.

He was like Shaq before Shaq.

So I can't mixed up with uh Dawkins, but one of them used to break the backboard all the time.

That was Dawkins.

Okay. Dawkins. Damn.

Dawkins was a freak athlete, but he just didn't, he didn't maximize his potential. Like he, he was he was like kind of like Dwight Howard.

And then he just.

Dwight, Chocolate Thunder, Darryl Dawkins. He's kind of like Dwight Howard that didn't improve much.

He wanted to score.

And dunk and be an entertainer.

But when they made that trade, it was like, "Oh, we got Moses Malone, who's the strongest dude in the league." He was like Shaq dominant for three years.

Dwight was kind of dominant on defense, though. He got a lot of couple.

Say what you want about Dwight Howard. I'm huge fan of his, dude.

Yeah, me too.

Like lowkey disrespect. Like he's, I take him all day over Rudy Gobert, just straight defense, let alone way better offense. But I mean, they both won like three or four Defensive Player of the Years.

Yeah, Dwight Howard is slept on.

They're just people don't like his personality. But I mean, dude, he was 20. He was 205 automatic until he hurt his back.

Yeah.

Yeah. He was he was the face of he was the face of that, um, Orlando Magic team.

Yeah. Just they were doing the four three-point shooters and him down low. Rashard Lewis and Jir Nelson.

Yeah.

Yeah. Jir.

Turlu. That dude was a cigarette smoker, too, man. That dude didn't stay in shape and people hated it. Like he was a he was actually lazy Turkish dude. He'd come back and every year gaining weight, using the using the regular season to get ready for the postseason. He did not hustle, but he had he could pass and he could nail threes.

Who was that?

Turlu. He was, uh, with the good Sacramento Weber team.

Oh yeah, Turlu.

He was with the, whatever, 1999 team that should have beat the Lakers.

Yeah.

And then he was on the.

He was with Paige. He, he played with Paige. Um, just a or something like that.

Yeah. Pedro was 25 a game for a couple years, but. Yeah, it was him and Rashard Lewis. What did Vince go there a little past? Was he there or there's one other athlete?

I don't know. Vincent.

Went where?

Jason Richardson.

Hold up. For what? What team you talking about?

The Dwight Howard's peak team was.

Rashard Lewis at power forward, Turlu at small or vice versa, Jamir Nelson, and then I don't know if it was.

Was Jason there that time?

Jason Richardson and then older Vince or they had another athlete.

I think you're right though. Damn, you're taking me way back. I forgot he played for them. I think.

That was one of your.

He still has some hops, too.

Who's that?

Uh, Richardson, Orlando. If he was Orlando.

And he was Phoenix.

Yeah, he still had some monies. He was still like the number one player in Phoenix.

Hooking, and he banged Steve Nash's wife, which is why he had to leave Phoenix.

Yeah. Parker did the same thing with, uh, with with with Barry. What was the guy name?

Devonte West.

No, it was one of the Barry sons for the, um, for.

Oh, Rick or Brent.

It's something Brent, I think. Yeah. Tony Parker.

Brent Barry had hops.

Yeah, he did.

But his his dad was one of the most selfish one-man teams ever. Everyone hated him.

Oh, damn. I didn't know that. I thought he.

Yeah. Rick Barry was like.

The first ball hog to like just like you're literally not going to pass the ball and you're going to do 30, 30 points. He's he was just, yeah, he was he was but he actually did win a ring. Like everyone like he, I don't know, man. And I actually, you know, not allowed to ever see him, but it's like, dude, he put up points. But I mean, back in those days, is it was just Kareem and kind of everyone's going for second.

Yeah.

And he said, "Fuck it. I'll be the first ball hog in Golden State history."

Everyone hated his dad. So like when they were second generation Berries coming in, they're like, "Oh, you got mad hops." Like he won a dunk contest in his warm-up. I remember he was, um.

Brent was a Clipper wearing a Clipper warm-up. I was like, "What the fuck?"

Who was this?

Brent Barry, son of Hall of Famer Rick.

Oh yeah.

Brent Barry was a skinny. He had a shitty haircut, too.

Yeah, he did. He did. He he came down the lane.

Like he had 360s in the game and you doing? I didn't.

He did a, he did a one-foot inside the foul line two-handed dunk.

Yeah, it was. And he was wearing his warm-up jersey. I'll never forget that.

Because they always made a big deal about Bird winning the three-point in his Jordan said it live. I always remember that Jordan like, "Man, he's still Jordan's talking in front of whatever 10, 12 other players like he still got his warm up on." Old that was that was back young Mike days where the gold chain be popping out.

Yeah. Mike used to do crazy workouts before the game. I used to hear about that. What? Like in the middle of his career?

I forgot when, but I just know he he used to have like crazy type like workouts he used to do before the game. Michael Jordan.

Yeah. He, um.

Him and Pippen would do their own workout and then they wouldn't.

They wouldn't do the one directly before the game.

And Phil let him. Phil let him do it like, "Yeah, just obviously trust you. Just do your routine." So they they wouldn't have to like warm up and then play four quarters. They could do all their and take an hour off or two hours off and then play cuz there there was a bunch of bogus back then. There was no. Like dude, there was I remember Kevin Garnett like still eat McDonald's as a rookie. Dude, what?

Yeah, but them dudes as long. What was the rule back in the day? It's still the same rule. Long as you burn more calories you take in, you're good. So they.

No, no, but like it it was Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban was like, "I would have never let Kevin Garnett, you know, Kevin always had his dudes around him paying for, you know, him and his five best friends or whatever." And you're like, "Hey, go across the street, get McDonald's for us all. Get whatever 20 everything." And Cuban's like, "What the fuck?" Like Garnett signed the biggest contract. He's my biggest investment, man. I want to feed him whatever prime cuts of beef and the healthiest. Make me a salad too. Like I want to load him up with the healthy. His body is my entire team. I gonna let him eat McDonald's. I was like, "Damn, Cuban. That was a thought I never had." Don't think about that with 19-year-olds. But dude, most 19-year-olds need to gain weight from eating steak, not grease. I was like, "Cuban's a smart dude."

Well, Garnett didn't play for Cuban. I don't think.

No, it was just one of those things where.

Oh, he said if if he was with.

He was. Yeah, he was saying like, "I saw Garnett send his boys, send his crew across the street like, 'Hey, go get McDonald's.'" Like, "What the Minnesota's owner stupid like because he fed all Finley and Kid and Nash and like he's postgame meal here's a bunch of healthy go to the buffet, walk around the table, grab you know, make your own sandwiches and healthy or whatever seafood." But it wasn't like, yeah, I don't give a about you guys go have McDonald's milkshake. It was different. It's like kind of like how Chad Johnson with football. I ain't big on that like with Big Macs and stuff like that. He did that.

Oh, Joe Sinko.

Yeah, he did it all throughout his career with the Big Macs.

That he stayed in the stadium like his first two years in the league. He slept in the stadium.

I didn't know that.

I believe it. I heard something story about how he saved money and.

Yeah. He's just like a found this dude and I'm friends with everyone and it's like he's like, "Fuck it, man. I didn't need to spend money on cars and." He just had his own like. his first few years in the league or some like that. Treated the stadium like a hotel. didn't have to.

You know the staff. Everybody know you.

Back sneak back to your girl. Whatever. Like got a different girl this week. Like, yeah, Charlie, you know what's going on.

Well, Hey, fellas. I'm about to I'm about to take it down, man. Cuz my really about to go dead, man. This is.

Nice meeting you guys. Enjoy your Nicks the rest of the month.

We going to be back on again. Like I said, I'm I'mma be.

F the Knicks.

Oh, this you know.

F the Knicks. Yeah, I've heard you say some crazy stuff tonight.

You lucky I let that ride.

What crazy stuff, man? Cuz my about to go. I got like 9%. I'm good right now. But what crazy stuff?

They're trading. Michael Jordan took a pay cut. I was what?

We both, we everybody agreed on that. I thought he, he wasn't he wasn't like the highest highest. He was the highest paid. He was the highest paid in the league because that was what the the money was at the time. Michael Jordan was completely underpaid and was angry about it his entire career.

So if you pay, if you underpaid, that's a pay cut.

No, it's just that the getting 3.2 million was like the high. Then Bird came in and they had the the Larry Bird rule and they saw Larry Bird get paid. Boston had a rule called the Bird rights and now that's like everybody got it now. It's the call the Bird rights where the team said we could pay Larry Bird anything we feel like and they like, "Wait a minute." So Boston said, "Well, we could pay Larry like 20 million, 30 million." Larry was had the first big contract in the NBA.

Because they came in with the Bird rules saying that the team can decide to pay a player what they want and and that pissed Michael Jordan off. Yeah, that was the hey, we got a salary cap, but if he's a legend of your franchise that you drafted or whatever, then you get the you can keep your own at as.

Yeah, Red Auerbach did that and the Bird rules came into effect and then everybody was pissed over there. So, they was like, "Look, I should get the Larry Bird rule." So that the Bird rights have came in and it's still a law to this day now that everybody uses. But Michael Jordan was very upset that he was only paid 3.2 million. Remember who his agent was? That's the invisible hand. The most crookedest man in the history of.

David Falk.

David Falk. The weirdest, craziest man you've ever wanted to meet.

But Jordan was still making like 90 million a year from Nike. He was making about 25 to 30 at that time.

The people don't understand that Michael.

Talking about like in the mid-90s though. I'm.

Yeah. In the mid-90s. This is right. This is the mid-90s. So he just brought the NBA had Coca-Cola as an endorsement. They went to Gatorade because of Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan brought Gatorade into the NBA and now the NBA's got Gatorade. So Michael Jordan was a money machine for the league. He also had McDonald's and got burnt in the McDonald's commercials where they're throwing those out the window through the door around the gym and nothing but that.

Yep. So he had the McDonald's commercials. He had that Chevrolet.

Chevrolet. Yeah. Right here.

Yeah. Michael Jordan's house is right down the street from my house right now.

Uh, it's still there with the 23 on it and everything. Even though he doesn't live there anymore.

But he had.

Like it's it's like an icon. Like every time the Bulls do something or Jordan do something, people go there, they posing in front of the gates. It's crazy.

I thought it was Fruit of the Loom or some.

Yeah, he had Fruit of the Loom.

Yeah, I said Hanes, but.

Good. You good still. But see.

Yeah, still the same thing. It's Well, watch watch this. Watch what Watch how I get him. I'm I'm taking the football. Did Tom Brady during those years when they was winning take a pay cut? Yes or no?

Yes.

Yeah. But what did endorsements get under the table that we don't know?

I mean, that's the thing. But Tom Brady took a pay cut, but that's a whole different time and era. But yeah.

But see, that's what I want to get at. That's why I know it's a whole different time of era. It's over.

Jordan never took the pay cut.

Yeah, I disagree. I disagree.

Jordan never took the pay cut. Both of you.

Because felt like he was being robbed the whole time because Ryanorf was making money off of him. He was right.

Michael, I mean, David Falk used to argue with the NBA because he was trying to extort them saying, "Look, every team should be paying Michael Jordan because he sells out every stadium." So the NBA should be paying a special check to Michael Jordan. This was this was the argument that was going on between the two. So when Michael left the league and when he came back, he was not coming back until they negotiated a deal. He was going to go to the Boston Celtics. See, y'all didn't know that.

I never I never heard.

To the Boston Celtics. Yeah. The Boston Celtics had a general manager. He said they wanted to talk to Michael Jordan. And they knew. They say, "But the Bulls had the rights to Michael Jordan even though he retired." So, the Bulls have to give permission for a team to talk to Michael Jordan. So, the general manager was like, "Man, just give us the permission to talk to him." And he's like, "I guarantee you Michael will be a Boston Celtic. I know what Michael wants and he will get it from Boston." And that was, man, and they was like, "Man, what why don't the Bulls?" They went to the Bulls. The Bulls would not let them talk to Michael. They were gonna give him the Bird rights and they were gonna pay Michael Jordan $50 million a year to play for the Celtics and he would have done it.

And that was the thing and he knew it. He said, "I know how to get Michael out of this and what he wants and everything." And this was genius to let him go play baseball, get away from all the madness. Then when he came back, he negotiated a deal right away. Soon as he came back, he.

Oh, you're talking after the first three-peat. You're talking 94, 95.

After he, after he first repeat. Michael was making 3.2 million a year from the NBA. Once he came back and finished his contract in 95. He played the last 16 games and they lost to Orlando in 95.

His contract was up.

So now he's he went back to the NBA and says, "I want $50 million a year for 30."

And they settled. They came down to 30 because of taxes. They said, "Well, tax is a killer. We'll be in a tax bracket." But he was pissed at Jerry Reinsdorf because when they finally settled on 30 plus million a year for those three-year deals that he had, he, Ryan was no man. No man deserved this amount of money. That pissed Michael Jordan off.

When he said that when he wrote.

Reinsdorf was even worse of a human the way he did Pippen. Pippen.

No, no, no. Don't do that. Pippen did that to himself. They advised him not to take the deal. It was on The Last Dance. They advised Scotty Pippen not to sign that long-term deal.

He explained why. He explained why early. That's why I told you you was laughing. I told Cena was laughing about that saying Pippen screwed himself. But my man right here, Howie, was saying how he was in a up situation. Wow.

Pippen was the oldest of eight of eight brothers and sisters.

And when he got drafted, his dad died within the next year, year and a half.

Yeah.

So, he was like the leader of his family.

But when he was a rookie, he he actually had holes in his shoes and broken shoelaces that he played in. He only had one pair of shoes. He and he grew up so poor, he he was just thinking about his brothers and sisters and providing for them. He would actually take half-eaten sandwiches out of the Bulls' um eating and put it and Jordan got pissed at him like, "Why do you take these sandwiches like you're poor and putting them in your pockets like stop, you're in the league, it's embarrassing." And Pippen just broke down crying like, "My dad died, I have brothers and sisters." He's like, "Oh, man, that's when they started bonding and Jordan getting them shoes like, man, I didn't know like you like Totally different world. Jordan's just a machine working and Pippen's like thinking about eight brothers and sisters and and never even knew how to like live average."

Like he was.

That was the beautiful part of that story. Let me tell you what was really going down. Scotty Pippen was in the clubs every night. Scottie Pippen was going through his money. He was sending some money back, but the little money he got, he was sending some home. But he was in the clubs every night.

Not the casinos though. Like, and in the clubs in those days as well.

Well, back in those days, like most, yeah. There was no. There was like very few casinos. You had to really drive out to go to a casino.

You had to really try hard to have a $500 bar tab where you pick up the entire table.

Exactly. So, guys, the local clubs and my mom was in the club and met Scottie Pippen. He was trying to pick up my mom.

So that's how she remembered him. She was just like, "Oh, he was not attractive." And she was like, "He was just he didn't want to act or talk or read a room." But if she met Iverson, Iverson would drop $30,000 making it rain. People remember that.

That was, yeah, that was a different times, man. He used to go.

But it was only what 10 years later and you go for like 500 bucks, but I'm big spender Pippen and Iverson is out there just dropping 30 grand every night. Yeah, because once they did the Olympics, the NBA, the USA basketball approved for the NBA players to be in the Olympics. It took the game international and they opened up in more countries and it became a massive event for the NBA and brought in tens more like almost billion more dollars. So they were set. That's why I love Iverson. Iverson said, "Fuck, I ain't wearing no suit. That ain't who I am. I ain't gonna change." Yeah, they brought the dress code in.

But that was David Stern because the reason why Isaiah Thomas is the reason that changed because Isaiah Thomas and those guys, they all wore suits. They all used to wear suits because when he come from Indiana, Bobby Knight,

All those guys in Indiana, they wore suits.

You were going to dress your part.

Isaiah was a father's boy. It was just like all of us like black coming in and black families on Easter Sunday. You wearing a suit. You went, you getting dressed up on Easter Sunday. Now don't nobody even care. But.

Iverson just did what his mom told him to. She was like a badass. She like ran her.

But Allen Iverson used to wear suits. I mean, he didn't come in with the cornrows and the braids and the tattoos. He didn't have that. He had a regular fro. He had no tats. He used to wear a suit. He used to do all it was once that first season was over, he just changed and started doing more of him because now he's got money and to do all this. Before he was happy to be there and everything. He he had a regular haircut. People.

He didn't have a lot of those tattoos. I'm like, yeah, all of that came later.

I remember him and Marcus Camby just wearing the baggiest two sizes too big suits, man. It was the whole baggy baggy suits.

Yeah, was wearing suits doing his.

Would do a three-piece like all tailored and.

Magic would do like.

Magic would have.

Yeah. Once his first season was over, that's when Allan Iverson got the money and.

started because then remember they had to come out with the rookie contract after Glenn Robinson. He was the last one coming through the door getting 60 million. You know, Patrick and the rest of the veterans, they complain.

>> KG got KG got the first like 120 right after KG um was Chris Weber like got a >> Weber got his but yeah the last one was to get it was Glenn Robinson. I think he got like 60 million guaranteed his first year. Glenn Robinson let it was him kid and Grant Hill one two three in that draft and he was smart enough to be the last one to sign and he got the most by a lot.

>> He Grant Hill wasn't going to hold out because they were begging him to be the face of the NBA. >> So he was fully behind him. He you know Calvin Hill his mother >> family background Grant Hill was they had given him the keys. Who's the first one to do? Uh >> Fela are very jealous. >> Felas. Does that sound right? >> Yeah. Fela. Yeah. He had the FEA deal. >> No one else had a Fela [ __ ] shoe ever. Ever. And he just they're like >> it was the best deal. And that's why I'm like he was like, "Man, I probably should have signed with Nike." But I'm like, "No, you took the best deal. Nike. >> The first one to ever beat." like that. A lot of Jordan had a lot of [ __ ] perfectly timed and Grant Hill had a lot of [ __ ] perfectly timed to suck the damn injuries.

>> Michael Jordan had what is really a bad deal and a lot of people don't understand that. They watched the movie air and they man that's a good deal man for the had that for a shoe. I'm like yes at that time >> for you're talking Nike or you talking bulls contract? Yeah, the Nike uh deal because I'm like, Michael got percentages off everything his shoe did, but he wasn't just selling a shoe, he was selling the whole brand of Nike. So, I'm like, he's bringing in other athletes to Nike and he's not getting any other money off of it. So, yes, he had like negotiating for stock options, but they're only giving you options on the shoe. They're not giving you options off everything else. So he had the Air Jordan line. So they said, "Okay, he's getting a percentage off anything Air Jordan, but anything else Nike sells, Nike keeps." >> So I was showing him how I was like, "Nike really screwed over Michael Jordan." I was like, "Y'all don't really understand it." I was like, "Nike Michael Jordan owns 0% of Nike stock. 0%."

>> But Converse at the time was just given like I don't know 50 grand. The Magic and Dr. J. >> I'm not talking. I'm I'm know he did the perfect deal coming into the league signing with Nike. That was the best deal anybody was ever going to give him. He have his own shoe designed to him named after him. Everything. So I'm like coming into the league that was legendary.

>> Was it revenue sharing? >> You said what >> was it? And his mom got like the revenue sharing. Yeah, they he made it that they had the revenue share u like he got like >> whatever percent of every shoe sale >> every shoe that was sold. So they went to they had to do another deal because they went into clothing merch merchandise. So the because remember the first Jordans don't have the jump man logo that was only on the second >> so the second shoe on there was no Jordan logo.

>> I I had two pairs of the of the fives. The fives were my favorite in the high top with like the little gravel on the on the [ __ ] uh it was like the gravel paint on the what do you call Damn it. The outside of the heel went all the way to the toe.

>> Yeah. So Jordan was almost signed to Adidas because that was the only shoe he wore. He loved Adidas. He never wore a pair of Nikes in his life. So they >> was also North Carolina too. >> Yeah. There's North Carolina. Like they had a whole deal there with North Carolina. They sponsored them and everybody there because they didn't get in North Carolina, they didn't get NBA games. They used to get ABA.

>> Okay. >> So, they couldn't even get the NBA broadcast at that time. So, he grew up watching the ABA players. That's why Mark Marcus Johnson is the player he had the poster on on the wall because that was the guys he watched. David Thompson. Marcus Johnson who was like the first guy ever. But that that's Josiah Johnson's father. He's the guy in White Man Can't Jump. The one that went to the robbed the liquor store and put the gun.

>> That's him. And if people don't I was like that. Do you know that that was like one of the greatest basketball players to play was Marcus Johnson? And I was like if he didn't tear his knee up. I'm like dude right now he they were shocked cuz he's like 60 almost 70 years old. He was dunking a basketball. They was like dude he could dunk at like 70. I was like, "Yeah, Marcus Johnson still can. He was athletic."

>> Was Bob Mcad Pippen to be a big dude. >> Was Bob Mcadoo a [ __ ] wing? Was he like the first stretch four? >> Yeah, but Bob Mcadoo couldn't pass like like Marcus Johnson. Like Marcus Johnson had the post moves. He could he could dribble better >> than Bob Madoo and he could pass. So when he was when he was in the movie White Man Can't Jump and he played the role he played, this was back in his just regular street ball days. But I'm like, man, he would dominate in he played in the NBA. He was outstanding.

>> You tripped that off your head. Get that gun out of my face.

>> Michael Jordan had and they showed Michael Jordan's college room and he's got Marcus Johnson poster on his wall. >> That was his guy. That's who he like watched and patterned a lot of his game after.

>> And David Skywalker, he mentioned in his Hall of Fame speech. >> Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Uh Skywalker >> Yeah. when he beat Dr. Jay the Dunk Contest because he watched the ABA. So because they didn't get the NBA broadcast so it was that was his world.

>> He was like, "Man, we didn't really watch the NBA games because we didn't get them in North Carolina. We only got the ABA. We didn't get that network, you know. >> ABA was what, like eight years? >> Yeah. But they it was just that network, you know, back then the NBA didn't have a lot of stations where they broadcast and then like even the finals was tape delayed in the beginning of the 80s. People >> it was it was legit talent. They just couldn't and and it might have been more fastpac.

>> Magic just came in and sold the league, man. When Magic came there, it was like must see. They spread it to like all 50 states. The NBA was Yeah. Magic came in and brought it. When Bird got >> their college uh championship game was is still the most watched basketball game in the history. >> Oh, probably. Yeah. I mean, that was an epic game. I mean, I knew Bird was gonna lose because Michigan State just had too many weapons, >> but Bird literally carried them. Bird is so outstanding. People just don't know how great Larry Bird was. He was on Indiana. He was on >> and he quit college and went back home.

>> Yeah. And he had to sit out a year. >> Yeah, he had to sit out a year because of that. And he was just like I He didn't even think about going back to college. He was just like, "I'm not used to this life." You know, like it just wasn't him. He didn't feel like >> little town of [ __ ] 500 and being around 20,000.

>> Yeah. Then Bird dad is sitting there. He was so pissed because he was happy his son was getting out of there, you know. And his dad was pissed that he came back home and left college and he was just disappointed that he >> Well, his dad committed suicide like the same year. >> Same year. He was just like, "That's it. I'm just gonna take myself out." You know, his dad was >> he he was he was he did it like insurance like back then in those days like he had insurance policy. They'd still pay even if it was suicide.

>> Yeah. >> He did it for that. He did it for a lot of reasons. you know, he was just not happy that, you know, his son dropped out of college and decided to be a local person working at the job. And and it's like he almost felt like he let his dad down, you know, like >> his college team went like 30 and one or like two years in a row. >> Yeah. They I mean Indiana State was crazy because the thing is they gave him an opportunity and they >> never been ranked before or after. >> Yeah, that's >> Indiana State. The players on his team weren't even that great. He made them better. That that's how great. People don't understand that part about Larry. Larry makes people better.

>> No, it's it's when you when you keep the ball moving and everyone's fresh and thinking, you just got that extra gear or your brain's going faster.

>> They don't realize Larry Bird could pass like Magic. It's just like he passed. He He's an excellent passer. I'm like, if you ever seen Magic New because they played on the USA team together >> and they were starters and they were on the bench. They were better than the starter. They was like, "Can we please get in the game?" Once they put Magic and Bird in there together, they took off. Dominated.

>> I think Bird's the best passing forward over LeBron. Of >> of course he's better than LeBron in every aspect. LeBron's just a better over-the-top finisher, more athletic than Bird. But intelligence, everything. I got Bird over Jordan.

>> I got nothing with Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan. >> I got Bird two. Kareem three. >> I got Bird at three all time. >> Who's your Who's your top two? >> Oh, top two is Isaiah Thomas and Oscar Robinson.

>> Holy [ __ ] I got Isaiah Thomas at like 80. >> Oh, never. >> I never liked his game. I always thought and this is my first first memories of basketball and I loved Magic and I kind of didn't like the Celtics just because of their colors or whatever. Like Parish didn't look I don't know. I was 10 years old and didn't like Parish. I don't know. DJ had freckles like because I'm 10, you know. I just didn't like the Celtics. But I remember loving Magic and and Michael and then being like Isaiah's I always thought Dumar was better. I don't know why. I can't explain it. Just my gut instinct was like he's the guy that's doing the good [ __ ] on a team.

>> Well, no. Yeah, but Joe couldn't Joe couldn't do what Isaiah could do. Isaiah, his prime was half as long. >> Joe is great. Joe is a great player, but he can't lead a team to a championship. Joe's a great >> He didn't get Finals MVP. >> Yes, because of Isaiah. So they knew it was the strategy. See Isaiah, this is why Isaiah is a genius and he outsmarts the other teams. He know your weaknesses and know how to exploit your weaknesses. This is how he kept beating Jordan all those years.

>> Damn Lambir was the same way thinking like >> they Lambir is from out where I live. His father worked at the mill and was very rich. He made more money than Lambir. He was in the conglomerate. So Lambir didn't even have to work. He went to like Notre Dame. Uh >> yeah, just everyone hated Lambir and he loved being heated.

>> If he was your teammate, you would love him because he was a excellent basketball player. One of the >> That's the players they got rid of that the enforcer role. Charles Oakley, uh Rick Mohorn, they got rid of those guys. Well, the NBA split that up because they they did an expansion draft and then they took Rick Mahorn. They wanted to split up that Bad Boys thing and and they took Rick >> I'm saying that that that Enforcer fifth man, sixth man, seventh man role ain't even in the league no more.

>> Yeah, that's true. But Lambir was more than an enforcer. He was a outstanding rebounder. >> He was the first stretch five kind of him or Makadoo. >> That's right. He was the first stretch five to be that tall.

>> I just hated everything about it. His socks and these cheap >> because he was never our center. Our forward James Edwards played the center role. He the low post score. James >> got a ring with the Bulls. He came and babysit Rodman. >> Yeah, they brought in Sally. They brought in John Sally. They brought in Edwards. And they brought in Rock.

>> Sally was Hollywood. He was just coming for the show. Like Edwards like he baldled a little. like he >> of course cuz James Edward was a great low post scorer against >> so they wanted him to come in off the bench cuz they was like we know what you could do down low >> so we want you to come in and you a great rebounder you great that low range shot that turnaround fadeaway you're >> that's the dudes I miss like are are you do are you Detroit's picking what pick 21 >> yep do you follow the draft much or just kind of wait until the week of >> I wait I follow the draft. I know who we might get, but it's just that at that we might end up trading the pick. So, I'm not really hooked on the 21st pick because

>> this draft this draft I'm hooked. I I haven't been paying attention for multiple years because our owners just went to sleep and didn't care. But now we now we got pick four and 15 and a new GM. It's like please just nail these two.

>> Yeah, my thing is I think this year Philly's in the best position >> that it's ever been in. >> Wait, the Philly? >> Yeah, the 76ers. This is this is their time to come up because they have the front court is >> they got three or four players. >> Yeah, when they got Maxi and they got uh >> BJ Edgecom. >> Edgecom. Yeah, BJ from last year. Embiid playing about 30 40 games a year.

>> Yeah, so now they finally have a team that can win without or they don't fall apart when Joel is gone. They have a nucleus they could work around. So having a front court is the most important part of the team. Now George >> Paul George you got him probably I would try to move Paul George but you got him to the end of the contract >> two more years at 50s something.

>> Yeah, so that's a nightmare for them. That's that was a bad move. >> Screws you from resigning uh the long arm wing. Uh always underrated. Kelly Ubé. >> Oh yeah. Kelly Ubé. Well, UB's his problem is he's another player that's one arm player. He has no offh hand. He cannot heal so many plays because he don't know how to score with his right hand.

>> But he he helps them win >> players this year. >> He he affects winning. He doesn't do he what he does he does right. And what he doesn't do he don't try and do. Like he knows his role.

>> Yeah, but he knows his role to a degree. He shoots you out of a game. like he'll he'll give up key plays and he some games he's just like flawless >> and he does everything right. The very next game it's just like what where were you thinking? Where were you tonight? Where was >> and then you bench him put uh Quinton Grimes they might lose him.

>> Yeah, they might lose Quinton Grimes and Quinton >> if he's in the right system and this is the right system for him. I think he's finally found the right team that can utilize him correctly. And I think like man, I'm like Quinn Grimes is in a good system. He got guys now. He got two guys that like the defense is going to have to get on because they can. They're great ball handlers and VJ is very poised. He can run the point. The problem is Maxi has to get off of the ball. He cannot play on the ball all the time.

>> He loves it. He loves it when Embid gets hurt, then he gets to score 40. >> Yeah, it's like, dude, you're going to shoot the team out of the game. He has lost so many games doing that cuz yeah, when he's hot, he's hot, but when he's not, he's forcing it. He just keeps going. It's like, dude, trust the team. The team.

>> So, do you draft you have a team now? >> Do you do you trade that pick for a for a legit stretch four or do you keep the pick because you kind of got a college >> college senior you like? >> You keep the pick. you get the kids that you want and build this young team up because you see >> you only got one pick. >> Yeah, but see, but this is what you need. You can trade any other players that you got on your team. You have a young team. That's great. The young teams are getting it done now. Uh last year, OKC, the youngest team to ever win a championship, playing the second youngest team in the Indiana Pacers in the finals. This year, you know, >> Philly still 40y old Carl. You look at San Antonio, they got Dylan Harper, all these young players.

>> Castle, >> that was kind of wink wink. We're gonna give you a top three pick three years in a in a row. >> Exactly. But they got three They got one of the youngest teams in the NBA. So, it's the young guys that are getting it done. So, I would trust getting some of these young guys. Then you can go and get some of these veterans who are near the end of their contract deals, but you know, they're better than what the what they're actually getting paid.

>> I'm just surprised you said Philly of all teams. I was I kind of wrote them off as they're going to lose them free and not replace their dudes with >> Philly is dangerous and that's why they were on the cusp. They watched him a lot this year and they they got Yeah. because Daryl Morley signed that bad contract with Paul George and brought him over and I'm like why would you do that? Paul George cared more about podcasting than he did playing basketball.

>> It was obvious. He did Embiid first which was between injuries and stupid but when he did Paul George I'm like even I know that's going to end wrong. >> Podcast. Well, and Darren Fox, San Antonio, no way. They should have paid him 50 50 million a year. >> No, they didn't need him, >> but they wanted to do that because they thought they had to fasttrack Wimby. They said, "Well, he's already proven." They had no idea Dylan Harper was going to be this good coming right out of college. you know, they was like, "Whoa, this guy has got a very poised, mature game as a >> rep. We really don't need De'Aran Fox, but >> we didn't have to give him 50 million and Ace Bailey didn't do any good, but >> he was in Utah and Utah wasn't running the system for Ace Bailey." Oh, they were just tanking.

>> Yeah, sure. >> But, uh, yeah, Philly's going to make the playoffs for sure. I just didn't I can't see them adding like they're not in the Giannis sweep stakes. They're not gonna >> No, they're not going to get a They're not going to get a big name, but if they had Embiid healthy, they know how to play with him. He might can't go a whole season, but it affected the team. But they really have a nucleus. They only need probably one or two more players and they'll be ready to go. A lot of their guys are young. That guy Edwards like he's a young scrappy guy. He comes in blocks shots. He's like they're rot and this dude is like can guard point guards can guide four or five positions on the floor. There's >> cleaning away McCain for nothing.

>> McCain is a guy that can go. He can't defend. He >> he's replaceable. But I just thought man. >> Yeah, he fits OKC because they OKC is dangerous at almost every position. So, you don't worry about McCain because he's not a threat and then he starts hitting all these threes and you're like, whoa, what is this guy doing? Where's who is this guy? So, he fits better over there when that's all he gets to do. But when he has to think and you put him in a position, that's what San Antonio said. Well, let's let's D this McCain guy up and make him have to think.

>> That's when he gets in trouble. He can't ball handle and yeah, >> of his element, but he's a good supply guy, but he's not like somebody I would trust like Alex Caruso, man. Now, that's a guy you can rely on.

>> And my my Bulls traded him for the tallest point guard that can't play defense. >> Yeah, well, that's the thing. He couldn't The thing about him is that he couldn't stay healthy in Chicago. I don't know what's wrong with the Bulls medical staff, but they just couldn't get Caruso healthy, man. He missed like two seasons almost >> just from being hurt over there and he come back >> ended his career. That team was good for like 45 games and healthy for 45 games. Lonzo Ball and Caruso and the two college teammates from USC, Boovik and D Rozan, those four had great chemistry. The Bulls, they were only healthy for 45 games.

>> Yeah, because the Bulls had so much talent >> and they squander it every year because they don't know what they were doing. They held on to Zack Lavine and Rosen way too long. >> I said, >> "Zack Lavine should have never gotten that hundred million. You should have traded him at that time." Because I'm like, at that time when he wanted that $und00 million, you should have traded Zack Lavine. I'm like, why would you bring him back? And the Rosen the Rosen is now he's done >> that it's it's been bad for a decade and but Jerry the dad has checked out basically and handed over to his son that had just no clue and he kind of wasn't even like fulltime at it. Like he's not respected.

>> No. >> When someone's trying when someone's just kind of Yeah. I'm the I'm the owner's son. I'm kind of learning at my own pace. Like you ain't serious, bro. You're letting the GM do stupid [ __ ] and you're just okay to be cuz you're not watch he's not even watching all the games.

>> No, but that's Jerry's fault cuz Jerry Michael Jordan wanted to run and be the GM of the Bulls and he wouldn't let him and he let John Paxton do it and BJ was supposed to have that job and they back doorored him for Paxton and then it was just downhill ever since then. So, I've had the highest highs growing up with the ' 90s dynasty and then it's like, "Holy [ __ ] we went from the best ever, first class, had the best stadium at the We had doing everything right, and then it's like, wow, we're the worst now. We're down there with Yeah. Jerry Ryan wanted it that way." He's the first owner I've ever seen do an interview and said, "Well, why do we need to win another championship?" I said, "What?" He's like, "Well, we've we've won six." He was like, "You know, let some of the other guys, you know, as long as we make the playoffs and and competitive, you know, we competitive every year, that's what matters to me. You know, we're competing. But if we don't >> my legacy is good. What do I care?"

>> I said, "Wow." So, that's all his focus was make the playoffs, sell some playoff tickets. But he was like, "You keep winning championships. you got to pay these guys all this money. I'm like, that's all he was thinking about was paying players money.

>> He already been there, done that. Like, okay, well, realize you should probably sell the team. >> That's what he should do, but he didn't want to. It's they're one of the last familyoriented businesses that, you know, that own the team. Mostly are corporations that own the teams now. Like, the bus family just sold um, you know, so it's it's happening all around the world. is going to be like all these tech companies that's going to own the teams.

>> Yeah. A-Rod is a frontman for a big group. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um I remember before he had a group that we was like partnership in in this uh business for this uh energy drink company and A-Rods on it. I was like, "Wow, wow." And he was like, "Yeah, you you want to join this and get involved?" And I was like, I looked at the deck. I'm like, "Yeah, I want to I will I'll invest in the company." I mean, I wouldn't mind being partnered with A-Rod. He's a good businessman. He makes good decisions business-wise. But, uh, yeah, they they he owns the Temple Boss now. Uh, I don't know if the deal's finalized, but yeah, that's what A-Rod,

>> but it's a group of what hund or whatever, ain't it? >> It's uh it's a fund, but it's like three major people. Well, he's one of the main governors of the Minnesota Timberwol. Yeah, he's one of the major owners >> and and there's a he's got a baseball not uh soccer. >> Yep. So, he's got that. He's got the energy drink. I believe it's the black company, the black drink. It's uh it's like a black water company or something. I don't drink any energy drinks, but that that's >> I think it's like one of those natural drinks where it's like biotech energy drinks like but it's natural. It's >> more more profitable than coffee and candy. the most profitable thing.

>> Mhm. >> So, >> but uh if I were Philly, I would draft um Henry Visar out of North Carolina. Uh stretch stretch four, stretch five. He he's I just He's got that classic old school um but he's a stretch four but he does a little bit of everything and he he's got a little he does need about 10 15 20 pounds before he's in his prime prime but he I just like the way he plays his game. He plays a little 90s basketball.

>> Yeah. And that's that's the era of basketball I love the 80 90s you know when it was real. Yeah, you know, it's just like, man, this is why I can't look at the players today and compare a lot of them to players of yesterday. I like, you can't do that. This is a whole different game. Whole different

>> and I I would if I if I felt it was I would roll the dice and include whatever I do. I would trade Paul George for Anthony Davis. Both of them are two years and the same money. Just give me Anthony Davis so I know I got one of him and Embiid basically the whole year and in the playoffs I need both of them for the ultimate. Yeah, but it's like when you're dealing with Anthony Davis, you're kind of dealing with a guy who, you know, he thinks he's a superstar and he wants certain amenities and

>> so does Paul George and so be and >> but be I mean Paul George knows his role like he's somebody who's pretty much accepted who he is at this point in his career. >> I think he's checked out retired three years ago. >> Yeah, exactly. So he's pretty much checked out. AD wants to be the he believes he's still a 1A player, you know, like get me the ball, I'm 1A. And I'm like, you got Maxi who's going to be the one. Then you got BJ who's coming up. This might stop the >> growth. I think that's a good mix where you got Anthony Davis thinking one thing and then like, well [ __ ] and be's better than me, but I won't admit it. But he's only here half the time, but I'm not gonna tell no one that. But you got two big vets at the end of their careers in my opinion on just a two-year window and then you got the up and cominging guards that do all the speed. And I I don't know. I I thought of that today. Like if I was Washington, I would trade Anthony Davis and I would draft and I would go I would trade down the two and take Boozer. Yeah. I mean, Boozer would fit

>> because if you get rid of Anthony Davis, you got the young uh skinny shot blocker at center and Boozer's the smart one. >> Yeah, >> that'll be a good pick. I mean, that'll be a good decision to make. My thing is it's just that the NBA is so it's I damn I wish they could dig up David Stern and shock him back to life. We got real commissioner back in the league.

>> Got a lot of rules to change once you get rid of Silver. He can't leave clicking over. You got to undo everything he did in the LeBron years. Not saying LeBron >> LeBron it's it's it's so horrible. He's made he's broken the very fabric rule like like the >> 20 years >> David Stern has told him he said do not mess with the integrity of the game. That is number one as a commissioner. Don't mess with the game. David Stern was a basketball mind. He knew every play. He knew offenses, defenses. He wasn't just a commissioner. He knew basketball. He's like, I played basketball. He's like, "I actually know what I'm doing." The guy that was supposed to be the commissioner they got rid of. He was the Knicks former head coach, Stu Jackson. He was the one that shadowed David Stern and was following him every move. Stu was going to be the next commissioner.

>> But the board of governors didn't didn't want to approve Stu Jackson. The >> and the commissioner for Stern was the guy that drafted Jordan. Oh, that was Rob Thorne. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Rob Thorne. >> I always like that Krauss didn't draft Jordan.

>> Yeah. But Jerry was a great GM. I mean, that was that's the problem that people don't realize. He was a great GM. They brought in Jerry Krauss and they would not have won if they listened to Michael. Michael Michael would have sabotaged that team three times over if it wasn't for Jerry Krauss trading Charles Oakley for Cartright. They needed Cartright and not >> and then and then Horus Grant and Pippen and then solved Power Forward. He tried Power Forward so many times when it hit and he finished with Robin he when he hit on power forward he hit.

>> Yeah. The thing is is he knew Horus and Scotty when he traded for Scotty and got him out of Seattle, he wanted to get Scotty because he said, "Wow, this is a guy who's athletic, a wing, this would be perfect to play aside, you know, side with Michael." That's was his vision. He had Horus Grant who was a young power forward and said, "Okay, I'm trusting. So, I'mma trade Oakley because Horus, I believe, is ready to start. You know, we could start getting him on the floor more. And you know, Cartright gives us a big man on the inside. He's got long arms. He can rebound.

>> What do you mean? You didn't want to make Charles Oakley a stretch five and make him shoot threes at 30%. What's wrong with you? We got more space for non-dunking. We could just flop and load management and flop more if you just have Oakley shoot 25% from three. Oh man. Yeah. So they they knew right away. >> Yeah. They knew right away they had to make changes there. So when they made those changes, it changed the dynamic of the game for the Bulls. Like they constantly improved and moving Sam Vincent away and going to uh John Paxton.

>> Pax. >> He had Yeah. >> He wasn't a true point. He was more of a scorer than he was like a dead eyee shooter. >> Yeah, he was a He wasn't really a point guard and that it was just because of his size because his brother was both of them were two guards. His brother just was like 66.

>> Let me ask you this. >> Yeah, Jim Jackson was something else. >> Let me ask >> the uh the Kansas rookie Deb uh not Dansa but uh Peterson. >> Oh, okay. Uh that who do you see his game like? Is he like a VJ Edgecomb truly off ball only or you see him like maybe a Devin Booker that's going to play shooting guard a couple years and maybe try point guard and fail or maybe transition?

>> I think he's he's more of a >> Ram shooter only. I right now he would have to improve on his assist game, but he's a scorer. >> Oh, he's he's a great shot. That's why people say Ray Allen. I'm like Ray Allen was Damn it.

>> Yeah, but he's not he doesn't have the the Ray Allenish because Ray used to be a dunker first. >> Yeah, he wasn't. >> Yeah, he had a pull up jump shot, but he wasn't a three just I'm just gonna take threes all night. Yeah, he he was >> used to be so athletic. He was explode to the rim. >> He dumped on Iverson in Georgetown when they won that championship.

>> Yeah. >> And yeah, he I wouldn't say he was up there at Vince Carter, but he was he was up there with T-Mac. >> Yeah, he was in a dunk contest before, but once his knee started to act up and he start having those knee problems, that's when he just focused more on pull-up jump shots more than dunks. So Ray was uh definitely a great shooter, great rhythm, shoot rhythm, everything, patterns. So

>> he's the hardest >> hardest rookie in the cage because all that creatin stuff and >> Oh yeah, >> and his agents didn't tell the truth, which forces him to be a teenager like, "Yeah, you caught me." And I'm thinking on my feet and here's our dumb story. >> Yeah. >> And then his Yeah. He was the point guard for uh for his high school team and he what did he do? Score 60 or 70 on Deansa's team and win.

>> Yeah. >> And then he >> that was only that was only to showcase. But the thing is is that he was better than Deansa. Like he's always had the talent to be like Deansa will be better I believe in time. I just don't believe he's like I'm gonna come in the league and dominate >> for his position. >> I think he's just Yeah, he's gonna need more work, >> but he the upside is heavy with him because he's a bigger guy. I was like, he's a bigger guy, bigger body. So, if he once he grows into his body and gets stronger, he'll be difficult to deal with.

>> I when I when I saw him, I instantly was like, I know this. I know this type and it's it's the type that I don't think is a winning type. I was like, oh, people are saying, uh, Tracy McGrady. I'm like, no, no, he's not.

>> He doesn't have the athleticism like Tracy. And then the people are like, "He's RJ Barrett at the low end, but he's uh uh one of the Celtics, Jaylen Brown or Tatum at the high end." I'm like, "No, he's Adrien Dantley, but way more athletic and he's going to win two scoring titles and never win shit."

>> Adrien Danley's problem. My god, he was just a head kick. Adrien Dantley won two scoring titles, never shot threes, which the banter don't shoot threes, and he just ate you up like a modernday D Rozan from five years ago. And if he doesn't have Papovic telling him exactly how to maximize his [ __ ] he's going to be a Carmelo Anthony career where he don't maximize his [ __ ] And that's a low post scorer, but he was such a headcase. He led the he was the lead in the league in scoring and got traded.

>> Yeah, I don't Detroit after the leading scorer after he was a headcase on that team, but he's known for Isaiah got rid of him for Baraguay. I was like that was the best deal they ever did because Utah got rid of of uh Adrien Dentley because he was a headcase. He was causing problems in Utah.

>> And the second he left Detroit, they won two back-to-back championships. >> Exactly. the team started rolling. He was bringing the team down, wanting the shot. He didn't want to surrender more shots.

>> Rozan did that to the Toronto teams >> because he go in the middle of the court and stop the flow of everything and it's like [ __ ] And you bring in Kylie Leonard with a million times more defense and not chucking 20 shots to get 20 points.

>> Yeah, he he get cold feet every time. He he he dealt with this his entire life of dealing with anxiety and he's like, "Oh, the anxiety and he just couldn't do it." And now he wants to admit it all of a sudden like, "Yeah, I've dealt with these like anxiety and panic attacks and and I'm like, well, I wish you would have told us this when when they were signing you to 6070 million deals because he was having an MVP year hitting all these threes for Toronto this year." I'm like, man, he really broke out this year. All right, maybe. Then he played Cleveland again, then freeze right back up and then scoreless. He got benched in the fourth quarter. Like, he benched me in the fourth quarter. I'm like, why wouldn't they bench you? You were doing nothing on the floor.

>> Never learned how to pass. >> Never learned how to pass or make a a teammate better, better better. >> Nope. Never figured out that part of the game. And that was and then the other people uh pe people say a little Paul George a blend of Paul George RJ Barrett at worst which means you score 20 points you make your team worse and have zero defense which I he didn't play defense in college because I think the coach has said you cannot foul out or get in foul trouble so just rest you're already tired offense but I don't I don't blame him for that Yeah, but I don't know. Washington's coach will let him kind of like he could just be the same career as Camaro Anthony, which is a damn good career, but it ain't a winning one.

>> Yeah, but I I just instantly thought Adrien Dantley >> Yeah, two scoring titles. >> Yeah, I think he could probably do a lot more than AB, but the thing is is in the NBA it's gonna be difficult for him to do that. uh in time, but I think as a rookie, they're gonna be on him and he's gonna run into defense that he's they're gonna take him away from his spots. So, he's going to have to learn how to score from other angles.

>> He's he does have does have quite a few counter moves for a college kid, Dwight. >> Yeah, he's got counter moves, but they're gonna they're going to force him to those early to put him in positions he's not comfortable with. They know what he likes to do. He's good on 101.

>> The team does matter a lot. >> Yeah. But they will see >> if he's on Washington or if he's on Utah. One of them might have him chucking threes that he's bad at. >> Yeah, they just want to see what he does on the outside and then they'll try to figure it out as they go. But they pretty much are going to try to take away his drive penetration because it's easier in college when you can get by some of these kids that are just not going to make it to the league. But when you get into pros, you know, everybody here is a pro, so they know.

>> Doesn't mean they play defense. >> You ain't lying. It doesn't. But >> he's gonna run into that like, whoa. Okay. Uh, this is not as easy as I thought. Okay, I get my wake up call. You had that one game where he gets off and then like in summer league and then he starts getting >> Ace Bailey was kind of similar and he he played what like half the g half the minutes of every game and didn't really have a good year.

>> Well, no, they wanted him to learn. It's a lot of stuff you got to pick up, you know. You got to learn plays. You got to learn where to be defensively. You got to learn >> and the coach is told to lose every game. >> Yeah. But you got to learn like the playbook. You got to learn who's going to be open on the curl. We're reversing the play now. So now you got to know what's going to be on the reverse and they'll call that on the fly. So for the young kids, it's a lot to take in. It depends on what kind of coaching you had in college.

>> Well, you had Harper running the team and he just played ball. That's kind of fun. >> Well, who's the uh the fourth one? Have you got a good read on the >> Caleb Wilson? North Carolina is supposed to go to my Chicago Bulls.

>> Caleb Wilson is outstanding. I think he's the one that shut AJ down. So, yeah, he's definitely he's a great defender. So, I was like definitely who he remind you of is what I I He He's reminds me of a lot of different players. Some great, some He's He's a lot. I think he's got the right competitor like the you hear him talking >> a lot of people compare him to Lou all day and and I said >> I don't really see Lou all dang with >> I don't either that no >> and I was like look I was like he's from North Carolina. Caleb is way better to me and I think he's gonna probably be rookie of the year. That's the per >> because he fits the Bulls workout. I mean, he fits that team.

>> This is the best option. >> Well, we got We don't even have a coach. >> With no coach like our GM new, >> but >> you got Josh Giddy who needs you're building a team around him. You got Burellis. Those two guys on the floor together with Caleb Wilson could tear them tear it up on the court. Because now they got somebody on the inside. They can hit on the wing, who can who would go one-on-one, his wide his wide stance and his approach to the rim. Zack I mean Josh Giddy will get him the ball every time >> and he can drop dimes and I was like that's his best part of his game is his passing >> and people are just not aware.

>> Does that re does I'm glad you said that. Caleb Wilson low key is more advanced at passing than I think. Like there's times where he's just falling asleep on defense. Like his defense is all reactionary like he don't know what's coming next. He's just reacting.

>> Yeah. >> You know what up, man? >> What's up, G? We're talking about like the top four rookies. You got a favorite one or a really good read on which one reminds you of a of a player in the a player comp?

>> I don't mean to disturb the conversation, but these [ __ ] is out here shooting. They've been shooting for hours out here, bro. >> In New York. >> Yeah, I'm in Brooklyn. They just been shooting all night. Like all morning shooting, man.

>> Oh my god. >> Cops shoots. got to hear this for a whole year. >> I just watched the >> You know, I just watched the cops jump some dudes like beat some dudes up, bro. Like Brooklyn different, bro. They not even being cops, bro.

>> Sounds like Philly. >> Yo, bro. They let they Brooklyn worse, bro. We got two million more people than Philly, [ __ ] Like, what? Bro, the cops >> I've always respected Brooklyn more than >> remember five people are eating horseshit off the middle of the street. >> Yo, the cops is letting people beat people up, son. So, you know, I'm telling you, like they laughing, bro. Like, see, you know, if I was to get up and yo, it's 5 in the morning. If I was to get up and go to the J train right now, like on Broadway, bro, under the train, son. They whing, bro. They whing, bro. My neighborhood look like I don't know what happened. Look like something happened. [ __ ]

] turning cars over and [ __ ] >> Bro, you have think you'd have thought the aliens arrived. >> They should have never given this team a championship. >> You know, I fell asleep. I fell asleep third quarter. You know, we was the Spurs was winning. >> Yo, while my mom's woke me up banging on the door, yo, with like my It was 9290. I'm like, "What happened?" I'm thinking something happened for real. >> I'm thinking something really happened. She going crazy in there. I'm like, "Yo, let me go back to sleep." My pops called me whing. Don't talk to me no more. I don't talk to you no more. You're not my son. >> 53 years. Let him enjoy it. Let him be a kid again. >> Say you're not my son is crazy. >> He's being a kid. 53 years. >> Like you not my son is crazy. >> Make you remember tonight. >> Yo, you don't understand New Yorkers. >> Now see where you get it from. Yo, for real. >> You're gonna remember I said something crazy. >> Yo, he >> This only happens once every 53 years. >> Y'all don't even know New Yorkers, man. They gonna be doing this for the next 100. They gonna talk about this. It's all they're gonna talk about every day. All day. They're not gonna talk about nothing else. Yo, bro. J Jay-Z's Hov's um concert is not going to compare to this. I'm telling you. Like >> I I like how all the old guys show showed up. Like >> yo, Cino, they going to all be at Yankee Stadium in Knicks jerseys, bro. Like, this is disgusting. >> Patrick sitting there, Oakley's Cami sitting there, Freewell sitting there. Those are the teams I grew up with hating on John Star. >> Oakley wasn't there. They ain't even include Oak. They ain't even include him. >> Yeah. >> I thought I saw him wearing a purple suit. >> Nah. >> Who be purple suit? Well, he might have been there because it was in San Antonio. >> Oh, San Antonio. Yeah, he might have been there. But why would you go like James? Dope. I'm good. I'm all right. >> He just wants to hang out with you and one more time. >> It's all good. See, you know, I got a question for you, son. Cuz some dude went on the gram and was like, um, uh, uh, uh, I forgot the first person he said, but it was, oh, he said, KG left, got a ring. Uh, Kevin Love left, got a ring. Andrew Wiggins left, got a ring. Cat left, got a ring. Yeah. You think Anthony Edwards is done, bro? You think he out of there? >> Probably not. >> Not yet. >> He said probably not yet. Yeah, I don't think he leaving just yet. They one of the top teams in the West. So, he g, you know, he was like, man, if I was healthy, he would have probably got there. So, I don't think he gonna bounce just yet. >> He probably tight, right? >> I I do see him playing for a different team when Gold Bear's only got what, two years? >> Two years. Two years. >> Yeah. I don't think he worried about Rudy. He think I think he needs some other guys, you know, >> what's his name? the the Yukon. Uh uh >> Oh, yeah. D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D He >> Yeah, he got a hammy. He's gone. >> Yeah, he's gone for the year. >> Conley's 40. He should >> Yeah. So, you got an injury exception. So, you that's going to be free money for them to go and get some free agent. >> Somebody else. Yeah. Yeah. >> And AO Dumo came from my Bulls. He's He's legit, but he's he don't he ain't >> he's not gonna keep he's not gonna keep AE there. Yeah. No, he not going to keep him. Yo, Cena, they don't got no draft picks in the next two years because of the because of their record, bro. Like, I don't think he gonna stay, man. >> It depends on, you know, no draft picks or not. They could just make trades. But they should sign IO to a deal and let him stay there because I man, that's my guy, man. You know that's me and I >> he's he's fun to root for and you know he's working hard but he's he's already gotten past the the he's worked hard and got past the ceiling I kind of saw for him like Jimmy Butler did that like three times to me. >> Yeah. Morgan Park, man. Morgan Park High School right here in Chicago, man. Went to Morgan Park. >> They drafted hung out with my cousins. Um, so local town. So soon as they announced him, the town go crazy for IO. Always was a great defender. He just had to work on his shot. So he start working out on his three-point shooting this year. I mean, the season >> career high for the Bulls. So he was working hard working on his three-point shot. >> So he was working with like Craig Hodgeges. >> Uh, career high threes and the Bulls trade him for nothing. >> Yep. So Craig Hodgees is one of the best shooters, three-point shooters in the league. So at one time, so he was teaching him how to get the snap on his rhythm, you know, for his wrist contest. >> Oh yeah, he won three of them. >> He tied Bird. >> Yeah, he tied Bird. He won three. He actually has the record. He hit 19 threes in a row. And then they had the in rebuild. The Bulls is in rebuild mode, man. >> Yeah. Well, they really they really not. They really uh have the nucleus. They they got they got Bruce Cis who's great and they got Zack >> the Bulls got Zack Edy. >> Yeah. >> No, he's on Wait, what? >> Not Zack Edy, but Josh Giddy. >> Josh Giddy. Zack. >> Yeah. Yeah. They got Josh Giddy and they got >> You give me DJ. Edge come for for hell no you wh you're bugging >> now Brucelis can score like Bruce Ellis they didn't people was sleep they didn't know about Bruce Ellis and what he could really do I was like I'm like >> who you compare him to I I am low on Bruce Ellis I got the exact guy >> why Bruce Ellis is >> that's the best play on your team is >> Bruceell is the best player on your team but our team sucks >> n >> no >> your coach your coach your coaches suck >> we don't even have a coach now his size that could finish above the rim like he's contest. This dude could not only he could do that. He could he could >> tell me whose game who who's his career? Who's his who's who remind you of? >> Who remind me of? It's hard to say, man. But >> Tom, >> that's the ceiling. Tom Chambers is feeling >> Tom. >> Yeah, he's way more athletic than Tom Chambers. But >> I would probably he remind me of Rex Chapman a little bit. That was >> got to open his game. >> Champ him without the shot. >> He's got a shot. >> You don't like Bralees? Bralees can actually shoot the ball. >> He probably don't care about Brucelis cuz he because he because he young like Bruceellis is young. He probably don't care about him like that. I think Bouselis is going to have the career and he's the same height and he's the same length and and when that but this guy was a rookieish who Tobias Harris I think he's going to be in the league a long time and just be a more athletic Tobias Harris but his IQ on defense sucks >> Harris slapping himself right now cuz he a fan at heart like for real >> is legit and it's a good career but it's >> whole family is Nick Knicks fan. It's crazy. Like they was there like they was at the um one of them watch parties for Central Park. >> I'm I'm not I'm not down to no one. I It's a legit career, but I don't see number one option, number two option. I don't see >> Nah, you got to build y'all build, man. Look, the Bulls Listen, >> you don't build around Tavarus Harris. You put him in as the final. >> No, no, not talking about Bruce Ellis. >> Yeah, I I think they're the same. I think they have the same career. >> I don't know. and he'll just be a more athletic. I mean, he he is kind of low IQ on defense. He gets lost and >> yo, see, they're not winning next. It's over for that. They go back to backs out here, man. It's over for that, man. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. They done that. >> Detroit get away with this corruption twice. >> Yeah. No. Yeah. And it's funny because we talk we talk about corruption a lot, but then when you watch it, like when you watch the games, when people say, "Oh, you got to watch the games." When you watch the games, it makes it easier to like it's they forcing people to watch the games makes it worse sometimes because like we getting we get to really see the refs bug out and do unnecessary like it's crazy. >> Oh, it changes every fourth quarter. >> Yeah, it's crazy. Like actually like when you know basketball and you're watching certain >> play are they really gonna start the fourth quarter off with five straight fouls. >> Yeah, it's like bro and they got cat they got they got they got cat out of there early is crazy. Like they got cat out of there early and still lost. Yeah, man. the fixes in, >> you know, >> cuz to me it looked like to me it looked like, oh, we just trying to make it look like we trying to get paid. >> It just looked like professionals professional refs doing what professional ref being paid to do. It was not the most >> 29 point lead was like the highest shooting percentage in NBA Finals history. Then the very next cool half with the Spurs and that 29 point was the lowest >> in NBA history. They play whatever 100 games in the insane game. I'm like NBA don't even try to hide the corrupt. >> They don't at all. That's >> it's just so stupid. I'm like you gonna rig the game. Make it believable. >> That's just way way wild. I'm like, nobody's going to shoot the highest percentage in the same game in NBA history, then in the next half they just can't hit the bottom of the ocean. It's like, are you crazy? >> So good, man. Next >> got injuries or nothing. Like, I don't know. It just all got cold. >> Next season is going to be this upcoming season is going to be much better, much harder for the Knicks. You know what I'm saying? They got the the Wizards. The Wizards, you know, guarantee everybody healthy is an automatic shoe for the first round. >> Wizards on paper. Yeah. On paper. >> I'm just going by paper right now. You know, season's over. Just going by paper. >> Yeah. I mean, should if everything on the up and up? Yeah. >> Yeah. What you said, bro? >> Who they drafting? >> They drafted AJ. >> Uh, I I'd trade down a spot, get Ace Bailey, and I [ __ ] roll with at >> the Wizard. Ace Bailey is overrated. He should have stayed in college. I I like Boozer Ace Bailey combo. >> Nah, >> I like I like AJ. I like Wait, you talking about the You talking about Utah or the Wizards, bro? Wizards got first pick. >> Yeah, if I was the Wizards, I would trade down if I was number two pick and Ace Bailey. >> Why would you do that? That's a bad That's not good business. What are you doing? What are you talking about? Why would you do that? Why would you Why would you Why would you give up your first >> belongs in Utah? Plus, I think he's like >> Nah, he don't. That's what y'all got to stop that. He don't belong in Utah. Like that's >> He's from Boston. He's really from Boston. >> From Boston. Like Yeah. High school. He didn't just do high school. >> Transferred to Utah for high school. He was already in high school. Like he started high school all four years. He transferred there. >> He was at a powerhouse and then trans. Father move. My father >> moved. >> Is that three years then? >> No, he bro. He only did two years there, BRO. HE DID TWO YEARS or one year. How many years he did it in in Utah? >> He did one year college. But >> I think two two playing years. Yeah. Two >> high school two years, bro. >> His mom and sisters are are still living there, right? >> They all out there. Yeah. But that don't mean like y'all got to stop that because if that's the case, everybody back in the day when like players to go to the team that they the school they >> Yeah. Like Will Chamberlain. >> Yeah. Like that. That's dope. No, he got to go to you gota you got to play where it's best for you as a as a player coming in. You got to maximize your talent, man. your >> remember last year >> AJ playing with Trey Young. >> But it was funny because he always run into that and people think he's from >> Utah. Gilbert >> I thought he did four years of high school. He'll mess that up crazy. I rock with Gilbert. He messed that up crazy. Like I watched that [ __ ] live. I'm like what you mean? Yo know Salt Lake City is not the Yo. >> Yeah. That's why I think like if someone likes it there. I I assumed it was four years high school. That's where I'm wrong. >> No, he fouls. He play he played with other top recruits and dead left. >> Yeah. But he's really from Boston. So >> like >> like I like the guy on North Carolina that nobody seen. I don't know if he's a senior or not. He was like >> Caleb. >> No. What's his name? Vaseler or something like that. >> Visar. Henry Var. That's >> Yeah, I was Billy. I would take that. >> Right. If he's coming out, I would definitely take him. He's a great >> is the perfect sixman where >> do you know who he reminds me of? He >> He reminds me of 1990s players that actually do a little >> He reminds me of the guy right now, Zubox. >> Yeah, he gets a shoulder into you and he can finish with both hands and he shot 40 something percent on three threes a game. I like his aggressiveness on the board. >> It's 1990s aggressive. Like I've never thought like, "Wow, I actually like a [ __ ] white dude from Carolina as a sixman. I'm excited about a sixman basketball. I like he gave a business to Boozer." And that's what I said, "Whoa." That's what got me on the radar of him is when they played, you know, when they played Duke and I watched him. I said, "Oh, Boozer, you getting you ain't really ready for this dude." >> Hey, these white boys that's coming into the league, you know, or in college already. They different. It's like a different generation of white boy, man. >> Yeah, that Var dude, I'm like, man, >> he's my favorite dude. And he's a sixman, >> but he's still got the center length, but he'll he'll do a reverse jam or like he finishes every which way. And he's he's not super athletic, but he's got the length of a center and he shoot bombs threes, but he just he's like just smart dude. >> Yeah. I don't know if he was a center or not. I'm a senior or not, but if he was, man, I would definitely be looking to grab him. >> He's got he's got to gain 20 25 pounds over the course of two years. >> He could do that. But >> I like to I like those guys that do the do the intangibles. He remind me of Zubox. Like man I was like man he remind me of Zubox man with how he get in there get the board back up. >> He giving Boozer a workout. >> Yo Cino, do you like do you like um um AJ with Trey and Alexander and AD if AD is healthy? >> It all depends. I I really think one of them got to be moved. Like AD AD going to have >> AD going to have to move cuz I >> just got he just got there. >> You said what? >> He just got there. >> I know you got to move him cuz I mean his interview way. >> Yeah, I know. But somebody else said he gonna be in AJ way too. >> Yeah, he gonna be in AJ's way. And I think I don't know maybe you you have AJ there to learn from him a little bit >> learning nothing from AD. Yeah, exactly. Because AD >> AD plays a very stylish way that I would never tell anybody else to play >> to play like Yeah. to play like Yeah. He got his own, >> right? I would It fits AD style. Even Kobe told him. He came to Kobe's camp to Mamba Academy and Kobe is telling him he was like, "Yeah, I like to see I like to everybody when I get in the post, I like to face up. I don't like to do my back to the basket." >> Could have been a center. >> Yeah. Kobe said, "Okay, well this is why you here. Do what you don't like to do." He was like, cuz he was like, "Why would you give up your advantage?" He's like, "You 611. Why face up and do your fadeaways? >> Why won't you you do it with your back to the basket so the defender can't get to the ball? >> Get to the ball. >> You turned that from >> I can strike the ball right out of your hand." AND THAT'S KOBE TOLD HIM LIKE, "WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?" HE WAS LIKE, so comfortable doing Kobe that ad need to Anthony Davis need to like really re-evaluate who he want to be as a legend as a as a >> um like to get traded to to to a Philly and him and Embiid have to just roll out two years one of them healthy at all times in the regular season both healthy in the playoffs >> you know if AD goes to another team I'm going to keep it real it it has to be it got to be a cont he can't just be going like you know what I'm saying cuz if not then he got Billy wouldn't be a contender. Trade Paul George for Anthony Davis. And then you have Embiid who used to be the number one. Anthony Davis the one >> bro. And be's time in Philly is up. He need to go somewhere else bro. >> Detroit man. >> Problem was he played in the Olympics when he should have set his >> he but he but you know why he did that? He wanted to shut Yus down. You know what I'm saying? So like >> well that was stupid. He he did that decision. He should have just sat his ass down knowing his knee was messed up, sit down and don't like when they got Kawhi Leonard, Kawhai won 100%. But he was good enough to go. It best thing to do was to shut his ass down. Let him sit down and let him play the season. And he Kawwai played 65 games this year. Uh he balled out. So I was like, man, this year Kawwai, they want to get another run. Everybody's like thinking he should go to the Pistons. I was like, if we get Kawhi Leonard on the Piston, I was like, we don't really need Kawhi Leonard. But >> I like young team, you know, like we got a young team that's this the young young guys are winning. That's why I'm like, this is this is not the time old time is over. You know what I'm saying? >> I like I like Joel on the I like Joel on the pistons with y'all. I like beat over there. >> I don't even like it at all. >> That's We don't need anybody that we can't rely on. >> You don't want to get paid a big man. A big man like that. >> No, man. We got Duran. That's fine. We good with Duran. >> Let's Let's roll with Dur. >> What about PG? What about PG? What about Paul George? You like Paul George over there? >> No. Paul three years ago, >> right? 50 million a year. I wouldn't take him at all. And he's played less games than John Wall did his last three years in LA. >> Right. We got we got Osura Thompson locked down. We got Kade locked down. It's about 2020. >> If I was Detroit, >> I might trade us for poor George, Tino. I ain't gonna lie to you. I might trade. >> We gonna lock Duran down for five years. So, we gonna have everybody locked in. So, >> he got to get better. He got to get more offensively sound. >> Well, yeah. That's what that's what growth is. He 22. I would trade Ron Howland because Ron Howland and Alsor Thompson cannot be on the floor at the same time. >> No. Hell no. I hate them two together. Even on 2K and I think you just trade Ron Howen while >> you trade Ron. >> He improved. But I mean, >> but trade him for what? For draft picks for a player. >> I I mean if if you go big, >> what you gonna what you gonna get back from Ron Holland? You feel me? like >> Oh, like do you pick 21 and Ron Holland and move up for a like IA >> or is he >> not different enough? >> No, I like that. I like that. >> IA >> I think is another perfect six-man off the bench that's way faster than IO. >> And I mean, he hasn't played defense yet, but damn, dude. He's 19 and led that whole conference in scoring and he gets to the hoop which I mean that's something different ain't I mean >> hey yo no funny I hope the Knicks don't go back next year and defend it like against like the Thunder or something and lose cuz like >> for real Brody like >> if they do I'm betting the whole house >> on the Thunder the Knicks you're gonna have to go through >> everybody. >> They're gonna have to go through hell versus you see what they did this year. They put everybody out the way >> for real. >> Yeah. They got to go through Tatum and >> No. They got to go through Tyrese first. They got to go through the Pacers first. They still got to get done. >> They got to get revenge on Philly. They gota >> revenge on Philly. They got to go through the Pacers. They got to go through Detroit and Boston. You I need them to play every single one of those teams. And Mitch Robinson ain't gonna be healthy. He >> so mad he got a ring. I'm so mad Mitchy Robinson got a ring. Yo, >> he I respect him. >> I respect him. >> Right. And now he's going to go and get a bag. This is paid for like 13 million. Like you got to get your money. Just it's the one time in his life where he can demand 25 million and get it. All he's gonna do now is is he's gonna extort the lead because he can't play every game. He's a limited role player. If you play him a whole game, >> let's say you start. >> I mean, I hope my Bulls don't buy him. I rather him go [ __ ] up the Lakers. >> I would trade him, >> right? Let him go to the Lakers. >> No, we don't want >> I would I would sign him. >> Nah, nah, we not we not doing that. I don't want that. I don't want him. We good. >> What's that? >> We good over here. We got BR in the paint. We all right. We all right. >> You gotta get something for him. You need you need more death. >> Yeah, the East Eastern Conference coming back looking good. >> Yeah, the Pacers. The Pacers, the Pistons, and the Celtics, man. Telling you, >> Atlanta can't make one improvement. >> N ain't smart enough. >> No, no. Atlanta is >> They can't score enough. >> Atlanta is doing like We pretty much know what it is, man. You know what I'm saying? Don't sleep on Orlando. I got >> What if uh Orlando? >> I like Orlando a lot. I don't know why I just do it. >> But what if they do Berro Giannis type of swap? >> I now think No, no, no. Not swap together. I was saying at the casino last week, I think that Giannis need to go to Orlando. I think him and James Harden need to go down there. Both of them together. >> I never thought of that. I always thought France and Giannis would be the >> I like Giannis and Paulo. I like Giannis and Paulo, man. Just Pell ain't got that dog. >> Giannis need to be in Florida somewhere. He don't need to be in no damn nicks. If he >> he he'd be better. >> He'd be better in Miami. >> Yeah, >> because Miami just makes you play defense and they make that would be perfect because they the defensive sets and all that. Yeah, they >> him and Bam. >> Oh my god. And then uh they want to get they're getting rid of that Tyler Hero. They want rid of him. >> Yeah, they know they want to get rid of Tyler. But that's Pat Riley don't want to get rid of Tyler Hero. That's Pat. >> Yeah. Riley wants to resign Powell after he gets rid of Tyler Hero. And Pal's just a gunner, dude. He He's got no fear. Whereas Hero wants to kind of play point guard. And then >> Tyler need to go to Milwauke Tyler need to go back home to Milwaukee and just, you know. >> Yeah. Oh, he's from Milwaukee. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, so is Jaylen Brown, but no way. And I I already heard that. >> Well, the deal was >> if he's if he's in a >> was already gonna be traded to Miami. >> Yeah. >> Pat Riley just lowballed him and didn't want to give up. >> It was a certain draft. He wanted another draft pick and another player and and Tyler Herro was involved in everything else because they said, "Well, Bam is not going to be in the trade." So, >> they wanted Hammy Hake or Vas, whatever his name is. Uh, >> he's decent. >> Hammy, how you say his name? Hime. >> Yeah, I can't even pronounce >> Haimey. Haime. >> He was like, "No, we good. He's not someone that stops a deal. But he's a he's a legit legit defender. >> I'm not taking him for Giannis. You crazy. >> No, that's You got to get the the young Kell Wear. >> Yeah, I want Kell Wear. I want Andrew Wiggins. I want you What? >> No. And [ __ ] the what's the stupid commissioner's name? Silver [ __ ] up all these picks. Now you don't know what value pick you're getting. >> I want Andrew Wiggins, man. dead ass on my if if I'm if I'm giving you Giannis, I want everything that that equals to that or somewhat. >> And I want you to take all my Koozas and [ __ ] shitty contracts. >> Hey yo, Cena, I'mma say this though, man. You know, I truly truly hope that Giannis don't do that thing where he's like, you know what, let me go join the team that just won the championship, man. >> Yeah, you can. >> If he come here, if Giannis come here, >> the Greek population that we have here is gonna come out the woodwork like they >> having three All types of sea salt. Yo, >> no. He that's too Durant. >> We gonna see when the Odyssey movie dropped. When M when the Odyssey movie drop >> just changes his mind, too. Last year he went on to New York and then this year he's already said I might. >> I think the movie the Odyssey come out this weekend. So watch. We gonna see how that react. Yiannis probably gonna make a decision after that one. scared to have pe one person Milwaukee beat. >> Yeah. The thing is he said they're going to make a decision uh Milwaukee with Giannis before the draft. >> For the draft. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's 10 days or whatever. >> Giannis might stay there though. Knowing I mean he might not even leave. Bro, >> you can't just that if you're good in your prime but you're 32 and your body says you're could play like LeBron's body. >> So I'm leaving. >> You gotta leave. It's just the natural arc of your career. Your GM sucked. >> Now, if it was my opinion, obviously I want him in LA. You know what I'm saying? That's me. But, you know. >> Nah, I don't like Luca. >> Why you don't like Luca? >> Don't play defense. >> Luca Luka played a little bit on defense this year. He showed a little bit more effort on D. >> Yeah, but makes your team better. that >> offense or defense because half the game is half the game >> Luca and LeBron brother you gota come on stop but I know she don't probably don't think Jiannis LeBron >> probably don't think Giannis and LeBron work >> no >> LeBron's been bad for two years man >> what are you talking Yo y'all gota stop this will y'all stop Bra just got finished having a great wrong with y'all >> you ain't had no great season. >> He's just he's declined a lot more than the stats say, man. He's getting assistant assistant. >> All points. >> You think Austin Reeds is good? You He's going to go to the Brooklyn Nets for 40 million. Like I don't want ex Lakers. >> Austin Reed's about to come to Brooklyn. He out of there. He out of there. >> They're dumb enough to give him 42 million a year. Like the >> because the Nets because the Nets need something. The Nets need something. We need marketability in Brooklyn. We need like You know what I mean? Like we >> And it's Austin Reeves. That's >> Yeah. Austin Reeds. Michael, >> this is the [ __ ] league. Austin Reeds. >> Why would you booze is the best player in Chicago? You're talking about some really high mountains to jump over. >> Austin Reeds are killing him. I don't know. >> Austin Reeves defense. I grew up with >> the culture of Brooklyn and how we like you. Austin Reeves would be loved out He'd be the most popular white person in New York history. >> I don't think it's going to happen. >> He'll walk down the block. What? He'll get Oh my god. He get the thies. >> The thoughts will go crazy over Austin Reed. >> If that happens, >> the Lakers are getting uh Dur. >> They're they're going to go hard for a center. But that 40 million. >> No, the Lakers don't I don't even know. I don't even know, bro. >> Or Giannis. They'd be either Giannis or Duran or >> Well, we going full-blown at Giannis. They doing that right now. They trying to do that now. >> The Lakers are >> Yeah, they trying to get Giannis. >> But But what? >> I don't know. For who? >> Yeah. Nothing. The Lakers got nothing to trade. >> We can trade Jackson Hayes. We can trade Austin Reed. We can trade. >> Yes, we can trade Jackson. >> Everyone knows Jackson Hayes name. >> Oh, I'm giving up. Jared Vanderbilt got to go anyway. Like I'm tired of Jackson. >> He's a negative contract. >> He's a negative contract. You got to give me a pick to even >> You put his contract in the thing and you put his contract in the in in the graph and it lower. >> He's the same value as Patrick Williams. >> Yo, I yo, I can't stand Jared Vanderbilt, man. >> I hate Patrick Williams just as much. >> I Vandy Vandy thing was a great defender, but he he injured his knee and I mean he never got back. He never got back. He never got back. >> He never got back. He lost everything and all these guys didn't got younger. He didn't got >> over that Beverly Hills [ __ ] >> He remind me of He remind me of Tyrus Thomas, man. Tyrus Thomas got hurt and was never the same. >> Oh man. Big old Bulls bus. We could have We had Lamarcus Aldridge for two minutes and then came the draft day trade. Like, oh, >> cuz y'all wasn't supposed to have him. That was one of them that was one of them timeline changes where like >> the Bulls got the worst medical staff in history. We had Marcus Aldridge drafted Aldridge for two minutes and I'm like, "Oh, the train." Whoa, >> dude. People get hurt on the Bulls and they be out for like two months. >> Michael Jordan. >> Like, what the hell? >> Jordan broke his foot was out. >> Broke his foot and was out. >> It's been that way ever since. Derek Rose, Larry Hughes, we can go down the line. Nate Robin, Joe Kim, >> Joe Kim, Noah, Tyrus Thomas. Um, what was his name? Um, oh god. Larry Hughes. Oh god. He looked like >> Chandler. Eddie. >> No. No. No. No. No. He was a guard. Guard forward. Um, he used to wear a headband. Was uh uh PJ Miles. Like every time you go to the B, you get hurt. >> CJ. >> Everybody go. >> Robinson with the headband. >> Jamar Jamal Crawford. You He got hurt. He thought he left the Bulls. >> Crawford came in like a little Bambi stick. >> Yeah. But he left the Bulls. >> When he left the Bulls, he left the Bulls. He came to the Knicks with an injury, bro. He was He came to He came to the Knicks hurt. He came in the same >> the Jamal Crawford the Knicks had was not the same Jamal Crawford on the Bulls, bro. At all. Like I say that >> he could dribble. >> That was it. >> Yeah. What was the other twin they had? Remember the two identical twins? What was it? Brooks. >> Alan Brooks. >> No, the one that was uh the the identical twin. The one that played for the Bucks. >> The Bucks. >> Brooks. >> Oh, you talking about the big man? >> Yeah. The center. >> Oh, Lopez. Lopez. Robin Lopez. Lopez. And then the other Lopez, the brother played for >> Robin. Robin Robin had that curly Stanford fro. >> Yeah. >> Heaviest feet. >> Yeah. He was like the hippie and his brother was was the conservative one and he was the hippie. >> Yeah. I played >> Yeah. He was he >> props to Brooks. Like he reinvented his career. He went from >> Brook Lopez still playing. >> Yeah. But he went from one type of player and he learned a three-pointer midc career >> because he had no choice playing on the nets by himself >> and he won it with won it with Giannis and he never could rebound but he blocked shots like a [ __ ] Crazy. They talking about Braun. Kevin Love still in the league. Like, man, dude lo y'all see, man. I don't know, man. Next season, man. >> I know, man. Thanks coming up, G. Appreciate >> it. Appreciate you. >> I heard your freestyle, man. I posted that on my Instagram. >> Yeah, I see that. I appreciate you, son. You already You already >> stay safe and have have a fun week. Let everyone know this once every 53 years. Do it right. >> You don't know. Man, this been great, man. You got to come up here more, man. We got to have some more. You Howie, you you were great. >> I I could talk basketball all day, man. I gotta I gotta I don't know. I got a month to nothing. Kind of put it that way. And I I'm already bored, man. >> Wait. Well, that's great. If you got time tomorrow, we'll be here again tomorrow night. >> Yeah. I gotta save this somehow. This my second time ever being on one of these chat things. I love not typing. Well, you'll love this >> cuz we let people come up and talk. >> Right on. I'll I'll write down what what we doing or just just hate on Adam Silver. I'll find you. But good meeting you. >> That's it. We Right. Right place to be. Hell >> yeah. Have a good one. All right. Good night. >> All right.