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Why do you support Trump? >> Sorry. Uh, a lot of issues I would say like probably mainly obviously immigration and he's more he's he's definitely not the greatest on uh AB, but he's definitely way better than Kamala would have been in.
>> Kamla. Just say Harris.
Um, so why? So >> uh cuz Kamala was >> just say Harris.
>> I'm sorry. Harris. There you go. Harris was trying to make it so everyone could just have them and they're all like fully accessible and Trump made it to the states up to the states.
>> Okay. And uh so you support that because it reduces the amount of abortions that occurred or or or what is the reason?
>> Yes.
>> So if I could give you evidence that doing this led to an increase the amount of abortions that occur, would you say that you would stop uh supporting that abortion policy? Well, how would how would making how would that even work? I'm confused.
>> Yeah. If I could give you evidence that more people got abortions, there were more abortions after the fact that there was an overturning of this policy, overturning Row versus Wade, and it was left up to the states, would you say that you don't support leaving it up to the states? Because your whole goal is to reduce the amount of abortions that occur?
>> I mean, I wouldn't say I would allow people to have them, though. I would say they just shouldn't be accessible period.
>> Okay, >> if that was the case.
>> So, but the point is is that if you knew that leaving it up to the states like that specific policy and leaving it up to the states led to more abortions occurring, that doesn't mean you stop supporting it.
>> Yeah. Yes. But that doesn't mean go to a system that's already broken.
>> Yeah. But like I'm asking if you >> I'm conceding to you. I'm conceding. I don't love Trump. I don't love MAGA.
>> Then if you don't agree with Trump's abortion policy, why do you support Trump? Because it's be like I just told you it's better than what Paris would have been.
>> For what views are you saying for Christianity?
>> Well, yeah, but it doesn't doesn't really matter. It's just in general. I know I just told you I don't love MAGA. I'm not a Trump MAGA everything. Thank you.
>> Okay, so like what are your thoughts on this?
>> That doesn't prove anything, bro.
>> What What are your thoughts on this?
>> You know, you have no argument. You're just like, "Oh, look at this graphic photo of AI." Like,
>> no, this is something Trump posted to his own truth social. You know that
>> in the middle of a debate and you and you pull up a graphic AI photo of Trump like that's supposed to
>> Okay, let me tell you cuz maybe maybe you don't know. Trump posted this himself to Truth Social.
>> I understand. Great. Trump's not a great person. I
>> He's depicting himself as literally God.
>> Oh my god. I understand. But does that mean
>> and you're still willing to support him?
>> Because he would have ran the country better than someone else who would have destroyed us.
>> You said he's cuz he's you think he's more in alignment with Christianity. But you admit that this is Do you admit this is blasphemy?
>> Oh, 1,000%.
>> Is blasphemy unforgivable?
>> I don't think any sin is unforgivable.
>> You don't think blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is unforgivable?
>> I don't I just told you I don't think any sin's unforgivable. Um, well, in your Bible, it literally says that.
>> It says a lot of things in the Bible. That's why it's for interpretation.
>> And you don't accept it even though it explicitly says that.
>> Guess what it also explicitly says that all sins will be forgiven under the covenant and under forgiven.
>> It says all sins but but blasphemy.
>> It doesn't after it says that. It does not say but blasphemy. Yeah. Then give me a single give me a single quote that says says that about all sins. Give me a single aspect of the Bible that says that
>> and I promise you you'll see it.
>> That says all sins are forgiven.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. That's so easy.
>> Go ahead.
>> It's going to disconnect me. I don't have my computer like you do.
>> Okay, it's fine. I won't be able to hear you. All you have to do is All you have to do is find it. Tell me that. Come back and tell me the title. That's all you have to do. And if if you end up uh getting kicked out on accident, just send a guest request right back and I'll make sure to bring you back up.
>> I appreciate that. Let me go.
>> Matt texted me, bro. Yeah, Matt. I know, right?
>> And I quote, "All sins can be forgiven through faith in Jesus as you repent and repeat under the covenant."
>> Wait, no. Tell me the tell me the specific uh verse and I'll I'll look it up and read it. Um and also can I read off Matthew 12?
>> Sure.
>> Yeah. I mean you can wait guess what? Guess what? Can I can I give you another point since you want to talk about sins that are so unforgivable and like
>> Yeah. Go ahead.
>> And then since you want to say like, "Oh, he said this in an interview a million years ago." How about how about can you condemn uh your boy Dean for me, the the racist Dean? Since you love condemning people about things they said 20 years ago, can you condemn Dean for being a bigot racist?
>> Can you do that for me?
>> Uh I think that you can stop being a racist over time. I think that you can acknowledge your behavior and you can change that over time and advocate against those things when it comes to things like that. Absolutely. And I do believe that if I bring upific
>> No, I I I don't think so. I can I think you can acknowledge this like for example, Joe Biden's not my buddy, but I can acknowledge that Joe Biden's done the same thing and taking accountability for the actions that he's engaged in in the past that are racist and then advocated against those things and he's not my buddy, but I can acknowledge that and I can acknowledge that for anyone who can take accountability for those particular behaviors when it comes to things like that.
>> That's a great point. That's a great point, Sim. Why do you
>> I think there's a difference between
>> I think it's a difference between that and like sexual violence. I I do think when it comes to sexual violence,
>> it's unforgable.
>> Then why do you call Trump a rapist?
>> He is.
>> I Wait, I thought you couldn't say that on TikTok Live. I don't know the rules.
>> He was held civily liable.
>> Wait, wait, wait. He was found liable or he paid out a lawsuit?
>> He was found liable. Like he was forced to pay
>> by an entire unanimous decision of all nine people in a jury.
>> Wait, wait. He So then why didn't he go to jail? because it was in a civil court, not a criminal court, because it was beyond the statute of limitations, which means after a certain amount of years that you can't try them in a criminal court regardless of the amount of evidence.
>> So, it's almost like he wasn't convicted of it and
>> he was held civily liable like I already told you.
>> Okay, you can be held civily liable about a million things that you didn't do just because
>> Wait, but like this is good reason to believe that this is applicable to him. And we can talk more about that, but I do I just want to go back to the point that you brought up um or point that bring up Matthew 12:3132 Matthew 12 about condemning people. So I'm just like I don't know why you don't do the same for your money.
>> Like I just I just told you I think that you can actively acknowledge your
>> told you that Trump didn't even do it and he literally did he was held liable saying that he was held liable of doing so.
>> Hey dude I I can acknowledge that but when it comes to things like that I think that you can change right your behavior over time. I think that you can change in terms of who you are as a person over time. I just generally don't understand why you don't give anyone on the right like that same grace.
>> I do. If someone if someone on the right
>> wait if someone on the right listen if someone on the right specifically has done that right that's specifically and by the way Dean was on the right when he did that
>> you know right like he was a kid and he was literally a right-winger at that time. So I just want to clarify like I do give grace to right-wingers. If you were saying I'm giving grace to Dean Dean was a right-winger that I was giving grace to in terms of changing his mind. By the way, when I first was friends with Dean, he was still a libertarian. So, he wasn't like like a Trump or anything when I met him, but he was a libertarian, right? And he wasn't like leftwing ideologically yet.
>> What's up?
>> Okay. So, if he apologized for if he apologized for all that and did all that, but he was still rightwing, would you still be friends with him?
>> I would I when you say rightwing, like conservative, like would I still be friends with Dean if he was a libertarian and he actively like advocated against that? Yeah, I was. He was libertarian. I was still friends with him.
>> Libertarian is very different than right-wing.
>> What? Libertarian is right-wing in this context cuz he was a right-wing libertarian.
>> Well, okay. What's your definition of libertarian?
>> Yeah. So, when I'm saying libertarian, I'm literally meaning like they believe in free markets, right? Capitalism.
>> That's it. Yeah, that's that's pretty much libertarianism. Yeah, he literally was libertarian because he thought it would produce the best outcomes for society. Like, so let me just clarify that is a that is technically a right-wing ideological position, right? And I was friends with him at that time. So, I did give him that grace. So, I'm not I'm not just saying that this grace is only afforded to liberals. I think you're using this to pivot right now.
>> No, I'm just wondering then why can't you give that grace to Trump then? because the behaviors that Trump engaged in specifically one he hasn't taken accountability for two hasn't advocated against three continues his behavior till this day and four right when it comes to things like sexual violence I don't think that those things can be changed right if someone has engaged in sexual violence I believe that they should be put in prison for the rest of their life
>> I thought you said blas I thought you said blasphemy was the only unforgivable sin so now you're changing the so now you're changing the movement
>> hey dude I'm not
>> dude are you serious are you serious I'm not Christian.
>> But you just you know that right?
>> That's what you were saying.
>> Yeah. I believe I believe based upon my own position. I believe based upon my own position that it's unforgivable. I don't get my positions based upon the Bible.
>> So it's all for Yeah, you're right. It's all it's all whatever you make up.
>> Yeah. My morality is descriptive of my personal values. Yes.
>> As long as you're not hurting anybody. Right. Well, I mean, I think it's I think it's a little bit more complicated than that, but I I do think that like the notion of like we have our own understandings of morality is legitimate. Like subjective morality is true. Again, this is all a pivot. Can I go back to the fact that Matthew 12:31-32 says that uh blasphemy is unforgivable. Look up Matthew 12:31-32.
>> I know. I know the verse, man.
>> So, what does it say?
>> That's not a gotcha.
>> That's not a gotcha.
>> What What does it say? Like you just said, I don't know off the top of my head.
>> It says that blasphemy is a an unpreced
>> Again, dude, I'm not Christian. I'm just telling you what your own religious text tells you because this is what Donald Trump did. Donald Trump explicitly posted a a picture of him literally depicted as God.
>> So you don't think Okay, okay, that's great. But you don't think it would have been more sinful for me to support a a party that murders more children than the Holocaust did?
>> You don't think that would have been, you know,
>> so I don't I don't think that I don't think that there's going to be that much of a difference between the amount of abortions that occur under Harris versus Trump. That that would mean you could say that it was as the Holocaust or something, which is a crazy thing to say, while simultaneous.
>> Hey, sir, let me please finish. Let me because you understand that leaving it to the states doesn't limit all abortions from happening. Also, it's led to an increase in abortions. It's led to an increase in abortions since the overturning of R versus weight. So, that's a thing to take into consideration. But in terms of specifically in terms of specifically what you just brought up, an unforgivable sin is unforgivable. A forgivable sin is forgivable. Which is more forgivable? An unforgivable sin or a forgivable sin?
>> But I thought you said you don't.
>> I'm just asking you a question. Hey, dude. This is an internal critique of Christianity.
>> Sir, this is an internal critique of your position. I'm using your own position against you, which is what you don't realize. I'm asking you based upon your own view, which is more forgivable, a forgivable sin or an unforgivable sin.
>> I just Well, in my view, all sins are unforgivable. So, you can say,
>> wait, they're not. Wait, are you Christian? Bible says,
>> well, you're a Christian, right?
>> You realize you do realize the Bible contradicts itself all the time.
>> Wait, hold up. Are you Christian? Are you Christian? You you do realize the Bible contradicts itself all the time.
>> Are you Christian?
>> Yes. That's why I know this.
>> Okay. All right. I don't know why. So, by the way, you can't say it's forgivable and unforgivable simultaneously and say that also every sin is unforgivable. That's not true.
>> The Bible literally says though,
>> okay, does God forgive you for your sins?
>> Hey, does God forgive you for your sins?
>> Yes.
>> So, it is forgivable.
>> Why do you That's exactly why I'm not talking about Trump's uh glasses.
>> Wait, so wait. It's an unforgivable that's an unforgivable sin though. I've already established that that's true. An unforgivable sin.
>> You said that's your maybe in your broken view of Christianity. But I just told you
>> I'm not Christian. I'm telling you what the Bible says.
>> My worldview is
>> it is? Yeah. This is what the Bible says.
>> Okay. So your worldview is just whatever I tell you it is.
>> No, I'm telling you because you're Christian. I'm telling you there's here's a verse in the Bible. Of course you have to hold to a thing in the Bible given that you're Christian. I just know the logical implications of your worldview and I'm able to use those logical implications against you.
>> Also other verses that say all sins are forgivable. So I have to uphold to those. Wait, what? What verse?
>> What? It's not for me to judge,
>> sir. What verse?
>> What?
>> Oh my god. I don't need to pull up every verse, dog.
>> I just I just want one verse.
>> I don't have it. You cannot believe me. You can believe me. I really don't care. I don't need to show you every Bible verse to show you I'm right. Okay. Uh, so and also Mark 3 is going to tell me Mark 3:29.
>> Hey, did Mark Mark 3:29 says, "But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. They are guilty of an internal sin."
>> Guess what? That's for God to decide. I'm not God. You're You're the one who's trying to be God and thinks your morality is whatever I make it because you think you're God. I'm not God. So guess what? That's for God to judge. That's for God to either forgive or not forgive. I guess what? All All human beings are created and are supposed to forgive everybody.
>> I should photoshop my face on top of that. That would be really funny.
>> And post it. Would you guys would you guys say you should support me still?
>> Should I photoshop my my face on top of that picture? No, I'm just kidding, bro. It's business actually.
>> You probably would.
>> Hey, but I'm not president. I'm not president. Like, you don't I'm not president. I'm also not Christian. So, like
>> So,
>> so that makes more sense for me to do than it makes for the president of the United States to do. Like, this is just embarrassing for you guys, right? Like, I think it's really embarrassing.
>> You're saying, "Oh, I can kill somebody. I'm not the president. I'm not the president. So, it doesn't matter what the hell I do."
>> Hey, I think that there's a big distinction between
>> It's not an argument. Wait, if if an atheist enga Wait, if if an atheist engages in blasphemy, are you saying it's just as bad as if a Christian does, right? From a from a secular perspective or from a non-Christian perspective? No, it's not.
>> Why are you showing us your dog
>> trying to make?
>> Cuz she's cute.
>> Okay, they are pretty cute. Not going to lie.
>> I know, man. This is something you'd probably kill. What? What do you How are you thinking that, bro? You think I would kill your dog, bro? That's crazy.
>> Why do you think that?
>> Y'all support Y'all support babies in the womb dying, so why wouldn't you support a dog dying?
>> Um, because a dog's sentient. Um, a embryo is not sentient.
>> You You do realize science has there's literally scientific proof that it's happen.
>> Hey, by the way, hey, LIFE HAPPENS.
>> CHRISTY GNOME, WHERE YOU AT? Christy Nelm, where you at? Christy, are you here? Are you here? Christie. Christy Nelm, are you there?
>> Star Inception, man.
>> What's up?
>> I said life start
>> Christine has entered the chat. Come on, bro. Your you know your own side did that, right? Like Christine Gnome, remember?
>> I don't know who that is.
>> Oh, you have no clue who that is. Interesting.
>> I don't
>> All right. So, um, so by the way, you think that Trump upholds Christianity to a greater extent, right?
>> Um, somewhat. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, so you think that while simultaneously he engages in blasphemy, which is an unforgivable sin?
>> We just went over this, but yes. So wait, why would you support Trump if he's engaged in unforgivable sins and Harris hasn't?
>> Why would I what?
>> Why would you forgive Trump and support Trump instead of supporting Harris when Harris has not engaged in unforgivable sin and Trump has?
>> Cuz she wasn't going to allow the whole world to sin. Was Did Trump make a law that said everyone can commit blasphemy?
>> No.
>> No, but he literally did it himself and perpetuated that. Camala was going to make a law that everybody could have AD or if I can say that whatever.
>> No. So, so you're saying allowing access to abortion, is that immoral?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, when God allowed for my worldview,
>> so when God allowed people to have free will and to get abortions, did he do something wrong?
>> That's literally the whole purpose of everything is free will. Without free will, there would be nothing. Wait, so when God allowed for abortions to occur, God didn't do anything wrong,
>> bro. This is like this is like the most basic Christianity question. It's like a 5-year-old in the church. If God was real, why would bad things happen? If God's real, why would bad things happen?
>> Yeah. The these these are legitimate questions that you can't account for. So a 5-year-old owned your entire worldview is crazy.
>> No, it's Bro.
>> Yeah. Like actually though, if God is literally perfect, why do bad things happen? That's actually like a legitimate valid question.
>> Guess what? Guess what?
>> Like you understand that God could have stayed perfect in its existence prior to creation without even creating any sin, right? Due to the fact that they didn't create any humans and they would have stayed perfect by themselves.
>> Oh my god. Can I speak?
>> Yeah, go ahead.
>> Can I speak?
>> Um because without free will, we wouldn't be humans.
>> Yeah. So allowing people to get access to abortion is not morally wrong. Thank you for the concession.
>> Oh my god. Can I speak?
>> Well, thank you for the concession.
>> And actually there was no evil in the world. But then obviously if you've ever read a Bible, Eve ate the apple. Now we live in a broken world. Now there's sin. Guess what? Now you also have free will. But also guess what? From struggle, from bad times, that creates good moments. Bad. You ever heard the saying, "Bad times create good men." Good times create bad men.
>> Okay. So, when God existed alone, there were only good times, right?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, why didn't God stay within that world? Because when God chose to create human beings, God then created the conditions which led to bad events happening, bad things happening. Bad things would not have happened if God never created in the first place. If God just existed alone, everything would have been great, perfect. And that's exactly why y'all's worldview always ends up in the whole literally domination. If you if you ask a leftist or a feminist or any of y'all like, "Okay, what happens if we all just stop having babies?" Y'all be like, "We all die. So what? The world's evil anyways? Who cares? That's that's literally your worldview." It's like,
>> "That is not our world. Who cares?
>> That is not our worldview."
>> And basically what you're saying,
>> so this is what's called a straw man fallacy. This is called a straw man fallacy because you can't engage in an actual meaningful intellectual discussion with any of those actual ideological positions. You have to represent them as if like we think everything is evil and we're totally okay with like the world being blown up. Do you think that we're okay with like nuclear holocaust?
>> Do you think that as an atheist that I'm okay with nuclear holocaust just because I'm an atheist? Um, probably. Why not? Why wouldn't you be?
>> Um, uh, no. I can have morality without being Christian. My morality comes from me. It doesn't need to come from some religious text. Listen. Listen. My morality does not need to come from any religious text. My morality does not need to come from a 2,000-y old book. My morality can come from me as an individual.
>> That's exactly why your reality is the same as a 5-year-old. It's whatever makes me happy, whatever, as long as it's not hurting me, whatever makes my hedonistic desires happy. That's your worldview, bro. That's exactly why you're the child.
>> Well, well, you just follow God's you just follow God's hedonistic desires.
>> You follow God's hedonistic desires.
>> Is hedenistic desire.
>> Your your ideology is hedonistic. What do you mean? Wait. So, listen to this. Listen to this. In 1 Samuel 15:3, God commands Saul and his men to slaughter the men, women, children, and infants of Amalach. Is that not hedonistic? Do we do Christians go off the Old Testament?
>> But do you think this
>> Do you think this is an taught to go Old Testament?
>> Sir, sir, sir. Do you think this is an event that literally happened?
>> Great. Are we taught to to do that or we taught
>> Do you think that this is an event that literally happened?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, if God did command them to do that, you believe it was good for God to command them to do that? That's hedonistic to me because that's literally an entire people group including the infants.
>> So if
>> so you go based upon whatever God's hedonistic desires are based upon your own worldview. Hell, if I were a Christian, I wouldn't hold such a crazy worldview like you do. I would say that didn't literally happen.
>> So if people are doing crazy immoral things and
>> he's cutting out
>> cuz bad things happens that means God bad God not real. I mean I mean I actually genuinely do think that that's a good argument to say that like there there really couldn't be anything evil in the world given that there's an all knowing all powerful all good perfect being that created the universe because they existed alone prior to creation and they could have stayed in that existence where everything was perfect but they chose to go into a reality in which is imperfect which is quite literally contradictory like you can't desire to create a world in which is less desirable to create. If we agree that flawed worlds are less desirable than flawless worlds, then God would have never created in the first place. Like, it's literally incoherent. If the world that we exist in is flawed. Since you acknowledge that there's sins within the world, you have to acknowledge that it's flawed.
>> No [ __ ] We live in a broken world. That's the whole like that's the whole like basis of the Bible.
>> Yeah, I understand. But like but like you don't realize that that's a criticism of your own worldview as well.
>> No, that that doesn't even make sense. Uh, regardless, I I I don't care to change your mind on Christianity right now. The point that I'm making is that Donald Trump does not uphold Christianity. Donald Trump quite literally is engaged in an unforgivable sin. From your own perspective, you can't even defend this guy. He's actually a Red Cross worker, everybody. He's a Red Cross worker. He's just healing the sick. He's a Red Cross worker. Okay. I I could never support someone who's okay with transing kids, who's okay with uh
>> Nice pivots, by the way. Nice pivot, by the way. But but by the way, but by the way, he could support someone held civily liable of sexually abusing a woman. He could support someone credibly accused by a minor in the FC files. He could support someone who said he would date a 10-year-old girl in 10 years. He could support someone who bragged about walking into the changing rooms of naked women while they're changing without their consent where two 18-year-olds came out so there were four girls as young as 15 years old in these changing rooms where Donald Trump could would barge in. Don't you'll literally support him even though he's engaged in all of these actions literally towards even minors and yet you're going to sit there and act like we specifically because we think that it's okay for kids specifically or trans to be trans, right? Is something wrong when you say quote unquote transing kids, right? You're meaning that we're making them trans. Is that what you mean?
>> Uh you know, you know, clinical doctors and like uh psychiatrists and like all those therapeutic things, they're literally not allowed to. If a kid comes in and says, "I have gender for you or whatever the hell craziness," they're literally not allowed to say anything opposing like that view. They have to say, "Okay, you should be a boy." They're not allowed to give That's not true. And that is true. That's not true at all. That is true. It's America. In Canada and America, that's true.
>> Not true. A single source for Can I see your source?
>> Look it up, girl. You have the computer, Mr. Type away, man. You have the computer. Look it up.
>> There's nothing. I looked it up
>> here. I'm looking I'm looking at it right now. I can't I can't find it. Where's it at? I It's It's blank, dude.
>> Oh my god. No. Hey, y'all. Y'all haters in the chat. Notice
>> I'm looking up. It's literally blank right now.
>> Notice how we didn't look this one up.
>> It's literally blank. How about you look it? It's your own claim.
>> I don't look up other people's claims. You look it up yourself. You can go find the source. I'll thank the people in the meantime if you want to go take the time to do that.
>> You literally did earlier.
>> Uh well, I'm not doing it. Would you like to go? Would you like to go find it? It's your point. I can't hear you when you swipe to the app. You just got to find the information, then come back. Give it a second, everyone. He's going to find that information real quick and realize that he's wrong. So, to just give him a quick minute, everyone. And by the way, for all the Christians in the chat, um, type a three in the comment section if you think that this is blasphemous.
>> Did I ever say it wasn't?
>> But no, I just want to see the response real quick. and look up the uh
>> okay
>> look up the stud.
>> Okay. Now, now for all the Christians, for all the Christians in the chat, if you think that blasphemy is an unforgivable sin, type two in the comment section.
>> Guess what? Do I forgive sins? Am I God? Do I forgive sins? Wait, am I God? Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know I was God, Dean. Oh [ __ ]
>> My name is Ind.
>> Oh, Parker. My bad. saying my bad.
>> I'm literally black. Why are you making that face?
>> Sorry. Like whenever I I'm sorry. Whenever I'm on the live and I hear the word regardless like I have that type of response because of the fact that it's typical in the times in which I hear it are people who are trolling on the live stream that say it. I do know that you're black.
>> I know I shouldn't be saying that on live.
>> No, no, no. You you you can say that. It's not like immoral for you to say that because you're black, of course. Um, but like you know I I do have that type of
>> I I just want to be real. I I do have that type of response viscerally on the stream cuz of the experiences that I typically have with how people bring it up. I typically have that type of uh response. So I apologize.
>> I get like the four-year-old coming on live like raging. But like do you genuinely
>> but do you genuinely think do you genuinely think it's like uh immoral for a white person to say the n word?
>> Yes. Absolutely.
>> Really?
>> You don't think it's wrong? I I just No, I'm not going to cry about that, man. I don't care.
>> But but you don't have to cry about it to say that it's wrong. You You don't have to cry about it to say that it's wrong.
>> I just don't care. I really don't.
>> Wait, why did you even bring up the fact that Dean did earlier?
>> But why do liberals love fighting fights for other people? Like, oh, I'm going to protect the black people cuz this is wrong. It's like, bro, like, just calm down.
>> I can have I can have positions on things that obviously aren't applicable to me as a person. I have a question.
>> I'm not saying you can't. I'm not a woman and I think AB's disgusting.
>> Exactly. So then like you have positions on things in which don't apply to you.
>> Are you a fetus? Are you a fetus? Are you a fetus? Why are you standing up for the fetuses?
>> I just said you can.
>> You're not a fetus.
>> I just said you can, bro. Why are we doing this?
>> I'm sorry. I'm just using your own argument against you. And obviously that seems absurd, right?
>> I'm saying like you get what I'm saying. Why are you trying to white knight like so hard when
>> I'm not white knighting by saying that it's wrong to use the N word,
>> right? I'm not saying I'm not whiting by saying it's wrong for white people to use the n-word. What
>> it is? And you were like crying when the dude like said come uh Miss Harris's name wrong. I don't
>> I didn't I didn't cry. I kicked him off because it's disrespectful and he's going to keep doing it for no reason. I just said say Harris and he wouldn't do it because he's acting like a literal child. Yeah, I would choose to not engage in a conversation with that person. No, I I 100% get that because people do be acting like children and like I would kick him too, but like bro, like I just like y'all be acting like the littlest things like that are so serious and it's like bro like really that's the hill we're dying on.
>> I I don't say what do you mean by hill we're dying on? What do you mean by that?
>> Because if if I was white and I would have said that I would you would have kicked me.
>> Yeah, if if you say that I would kick you. Yes, of course. And it's like, bro, that's insane to die on that.
>> How is that insane?
>> But it's like you got I'M BLACK AND I LITERALLY DON'T GIVE a
>> Okay, so that doesn't mean that you shouldn't in general.
>> That's like That's like saying like a woman doesn't care about massage. So wait, wait. Because there are women that think that Wait, wait, wait. Listen to this. Listen to this. Because there are women that think that women shouldn't have the right to vote, does that mean that I shouldn't like advocate for women to have the right to vote?
>> That's completely different. But okay.
>> How
>> I've had I've had I've had women come up on my stream and advocate that before.
>> I mean, it's not that crazy. Most people shouldn't vote.
>> Okay. So, do you think women shouldn't have the right to vote?
>> Not specifically women, but uh
>> Okay. But that's what people But that's what some women have come up on my live stream and argued that
>> 18-year-old every 18-year-old should not be able to vote.
>> How old are you?
>> You genuinely believe that.
>> How old are you?
>> I'm 21. Do you think 21-year-olds should be able to vote?
>> I've never voted before.
>> Do you think 21-year-olds should be able to vote?
>> I No. No. Honestly, not.
>> So, you don't even think you should be able to vote?
>> No. I just told you I've never voted before.
>> But, okay. Why not, though? Why not?
>> How is that like a gotcha?
>> It's a gotcha to say that you don't think you yourself should be able to vote. You're Well, obviously
>> you think it's a gotcha. That's my point. I'm like, how is that a gotcha?
>> Hey, dude. You quite literally said you would vote for Trump if the election were held today against Harris. Well, yeah. That doesn't
>> So So, so like But you just said that you shouldn't have the right to vote. How would you vote without the right to vote?
>> Uh because I do have in this society I live in right now, I do have It's not my society. I'm not
>> So why are you advocating for yourself to vote if you think you shouldn't have the right to vote?
>> I I just told you I've never voted before.
>> Okay. So So if the election were held today, watch this. Watch this. Watch this. If the election were held today, Harris versus Trump, who would you rather vote for? Who would I rather vote for? Or would I actually go to the polls and vote?
>> Would you even vote in the first place?
>> I probably would because I know enough now.
>> You wouldn't?
>> I said I probably would because I know enough now.
>> Okay. So, who would you vote for?
>> At the time, I wasn't educated enough.
>> But wait, you believe you shouldn't have the right to vote. So, why would you vote if you believe that you shouldn't have the right to vote?
>> Because I know personally I I I am educated enough. It doesn't sound like it because you just said that you shouldn't have the right to vote.
>> Bro, bro, if if it actually was in the society I wanted and you couldn't vote until you're 25, I would be fine with that. That's horrible.
>> That's ridiculous.
>> My whole point.
>> That's horrible. I would not be fine with that.
>> How is that horrible?
>> Because I think it's ridiculous to say
>> You think every 20-year-old is educated enough to go vote?
>> No, of course not. But not every 40-year-old.
>> Why? Why should they be?
>> Okay, watch this. Is every is every 40-year-old educated enough to vote? Majority are majority.
>> I could say the majority FOR 20-YEAR-OLDS.
>> NO. NO. THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE WRONG. IT'S not majority of 20-year-olds.
>> That's where you're very wrong, buddy.
>> Okay. Well, um I I don't think that's a fair point. I I do I do I do think that if you're going to say that a majority of 18-year-olds to 20-year-olds or so, whatever, can't uh make these determinations. Well, then I could probably say the same thing for adults as well.
>> I just don't think that's the same.
>> Yeah. I could say for 40-year-old. I could totally say that for the average 40-year-old if you want to make that point.
>> And I don't think I I'm not saying I have the perfect system. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying I know everything, but I'm just saying there's no way in hell you think it shouldn't be like um property or I don't know age or something.
>> I I think that I think that obviously an adult like I I think that makes sense, but like I don't think you have should have to own property
>> just cuz you're an adult that lives here.
>> Yeah. Literally. Literally. Yeah. Otherwise, you wouldn't have the right to vote,
>> which I would be okay with. I
>> That's ridiculous, though. The right to vote, and I didn't use it.
>> So, you understand that like we we want to be able to have legitimate laws so that people can vote. We live in a democracy. The goal is not to restrict people from voting. We want to educate people to the degree that's necessary so that they can vote. Our society as a whole,
>> no, clearly not.
>> Why do we think of people who don't's
>> Why do you think we give K through 12 education? What?
>> K through 12 education free at the point of service literally exists because we want an educated uh society so that they can vote.
>> So you're saying the only reason we educate people is so they can vote.
>> It's that and so that they can get specialized uh specialized degrees and become more productive. But the main reason is so that they can be educated to vote. Yeah.
>> Definitely do not think the only reason is so they can go vote. I never said that was the only I said it was one of the main reasons, not the only.
>> Okay. And I'm saying that's not the only reason. So that makes
>> I never said it was the only reason, sir.
>> So then what's your point?
>> Is that it's a main reason.
>> Well, I feel I feel like you're you're like purposefully trying to misrepresent what I'm saying here. And it's very embarrassing.
>> Like how you've been trying to misrepresent what I've been saying.
>> I haven't. I've actually represented what you've said completely accurately. Okay. So, can you name me a policy of Trumps that you like?
>> Oh, he got rid of DEI. I don't know the exact And you're going to be like, "Oh, that's not a policy."
>> What specific policy?
>> What specific policy,
>> bro? Such a I got you, man. Oh my god.
>> Like, I literally, by the way, I just asked him like a basic clarifying question and he's like, "You think you got me?" Like, "Yeah, I did because you don't know the answer. He's like, "What's the specific line that it says in every document?"
>> I didn't ask for that. I said, "Name one specific DEI policy that you disagree with that Trump got rid of."
>> Like, is it really that complicated? You just You said that you liked that he did this and I just asked for one example. I didn't ask you for each line on the I never asked that. I asked you, can you give me one example of a policy, a DEI policy that Trump got rid of that you like that he got rid of?
>> The DEI policy he got rid of? Like how how more specific do I need to be?
>> Well, I'm asking like what specific DEI policy? It sounds like sounds like you don't know.
>> I don't I just told you I don't know it off the top of my head. I just told how can you say that he likes How can you say that he like that he got rid of these things if you don't even know what he got rid of? Well, I know what DEI is, and I know what happens when you
>> What does DEI stand for?
>> Uh, black people, white people, negroes, non-negroes, everybody.
>> Do you not? You actually can't tell me what does DEI stand for?
>> Oh my god. Cuz I don't remember the exact abbreviation. That's a gotcha. Everything's a gotcha with this this god, bro.
>> Okay. Do you Do you want to It's like diverse something. Uh, equality. I don't know.
>> So, diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility.
>> So, you don't even know what you're disagreeing with. This is a buzz word to you, bro.
>> Yay. He got it.
>> Like, are you okay, dude? Like, I I don't know how you like are going to come out of this conversation like, "Yeah, dude. I owned Parker." Bro, do do you genuinely think you own me because I didn't know the like specifically what DEI meant?
>> Um I I think that it's obvious that you're just using a buzz word. If you say you like that Trump got rid of DEI, but then I ask you name one specific DEI policy that he got rid of that you disagree with. You can't do so. And you can't tell me listen and you can't tell me like what DEI even stands for. Then yeah, I'm going to say that like you're just using a buzz word. You just heard some random talking point and you have no clue what you're talking about.
>> But if I agree with I'm telling you I agree with it.
>> But you don't even know what you're agreeing with.
>> I just told you I don't have a specific definition, but I I obviously know what it is. I kind of got you.
>> You don't know what it is. You couldn't tell me what DEI is. You couldn't tell me what it stands for. You couldn't tell me a specific policy that Trump got rid of that you agreed with that he got rid of.
>> Say I want DEI. So that means I want DEI. No,
>> I'm just saying you don't know what it is. So you can't even disagree with it. So that means I have to be for it.
>> No, I just said that I'm just saying you don't know what it is. So you can't disagree with something you don't that you don't even know what it is.
>> But I just did.
>> It didn't make sense because you're just it's a buzz word to you. It's not even an actual legitimate thing.
>> You said what do you not ag What do you What policies do you agree with with Trump? I told you a policy. You're like, "Oh, that's not specific." You
>> did not tell me a policy. You said he got rid of what you said is he got rid of DEI. I said, "What's specific DEI policy?" You said, "I don't know." I said, "What does DEI stand for?" You said, "I don't know."
>> So obvious to me that sounds like you don't even know.
>> Explained it to me. And then you explained it to me and I told you, "Yeah, that."
>> Yeah. Okay. So then what policy?
>> The policy. You just [ __ ]
>> I didn't mention a policy.
>> Oh my god.
>> Sorry. Sorry. I didn't mention a policy.
>> All right. Are you happy now. When I looked it up that it said the policy was that for all federal hiring
>> Yeah. uh doctors.
>> Yeah. So, all they did was increase access to interviews. That's it.
>> That's literally it. All they did >> was literally ensure that people would get interviewed.
>> So, it's making a step, right?
>> Yeah. It's it's equity within interview within
The interview process.
Guess what? Doesn't that doesn't that itself prove that Trump's not some evil fascist like y'all say he is? Cuz if he was some evil fascist, he would just negate all of it and just make all the laws he wanted, wouldn't he?
So he doesn't have the legal capacity to do something doesn't mean he doesn't have the ideological perspective. Like for example, there are fascists specifically uh that have ideological opinions, but they can't enforce those ideological opinions within the context of the law. That doesn't mean that they're not fascist. So Trump is a fascist. He's attempting to put his fascism within the context of the law. There are just certain checks and balances that do prevent him from doing so within certain areas. But he's actively a threat to those checks and balances. He's undermined our constitution. He's called for the termination of all rules, regulations, articles, even those found in the constitution. He's tried to undermine our democracy, trying to say that the election results in 2020 were completely fraudulent, even though there was 60 plus courts that indicated no sufficient evidence to overturn the election. Right? He's actually just a laughingstock.
And Christian, thank you so much. I really appreciate the $20. Thank you very much. I really appreciate. Thank you. Get some W's for them in the comment section right now. Thank you very much. I really appreciate. Thank you. I know, right?
I just have a question. So, when Trump's not president in 2028, are you going to say that's because he failed at being a fascist, or are you going to say that's because he just wasn't a fascist? Which one are you going to say?
It's It's going to say because he failed at implementing his fascism.
I don't know why he thinks that's so funny. Yeah, of course he failed in implementing his fascism.
Because it's like, bro, Trump could sneeze and y'all would like, bro.
No. Like, I can go through the 14 points, sir. I can go through the 14 points of fascism and I can describe to you how Donald Trump is a fascist.
What?
I said we don't need to go through every 14. We have all seen the the 20 minute long video 14 points of fascism. We all know what it is, man.
Okay. So then if you already know what it is, then you know it's applicable to Trump.
Uh some aspects from 1000%. Like I just told you. I know.
What aspects are not applicable to him?
Told you since the jump I don't love Maga. Like.
Yeah, but you're still willing to support him%. Uh- cuz what's the other option? Doom and destruction.
D Harris is not going to cause doom and destruction. How is Harris gonna cause doom and destruction?
Um, well, for it all starts with the kids, man.
Yeah. You mean like.
If you can't protect children, then how can you protect our nation? Like.
So Donald Trump, he was credibly accused by assaulting a minor. Not only that, but also he's not released all the Epstein files. So, he's actively not protecting children and survivors. What about the Democrats that had the Epstein ballots for like over 10 years and didn't.
There? There needed to be Congressional legislation passed in order to be able to ensure that this could have been passed and there wasn't enough votes within the context of Congress to get it passed until the uh until 2025.
Oh, so just none of them cared enough until Trump came in office.
No, there there were plenty of Democrats that came out and talked about this, but there wasn't as much push for these uh particular documents to be released. Plus, there was also something that was completed through 2024. I just want to clarify that as well.
And also, Mayor Garland should testify in front of Congress. Do you agree?
I do agree. I think all of them should be held accountable and testify. But my question is, why would you blame the only man that's actually released the files? And why would you hate on the only actually done something to.
Because he hasn't. The Epstein Files Transparency Act says they has to release all the files. They did not release all of the files.
I understand that. But you do realize without Trump there would be zero Epstein files. Zero.
Uh, no. There would be like if if a Democrat were in office and there was a law that passed specifically forcing them to release the Epstein files. I do believe that the Biden B administration or the Harris administration would have followed the law given that that's what they've always done.
Given.
He's just like laughing and doesn't respond. Biden like Biden didn't corrupt the law by uh illegally getting getting his son out of jail.
That's not illegal to pardon someone. It's not illegal to pardon someone.
Do you actually think it's illegal to pardon someone.
As the president?
I mean, the president can do whatever wants. He's the president.
So, it's not illegal to pardon. So, so do you agree it's not illegal to pardon him?
Do you think it's right to pardon a criminal whether they're your family or not? Um, I I do disagree with with uh the idea of doing it, but I mean, if it was my family, I probably would do it.
Like, if it was my if it was my son, I'd probably do it for that charge. Uh, don't Trump pardon violent rioters who beat police officers on January 6th.
Then why is it Wait, so don't back up. So then why is it bad when Trump uh pardons himself?
I don't think Trump pardoned himself.
Pardons other people.
He pardoned violent rioters who beat police officers. So the difference is that like the particular violation that Hunter Biden did was was like a lied like on a gun registry or something like that. Like it was very minimal. It wasn't like he like committed a violent that's not even what I'm trying to get get at. I'm talking about all those crimes allegedly big allegedly that Trump was on when he got off.
You mean the 34 felonies?
Yeah. Got the [ __ ] deal or whatever.
It's not allegedly. He was convicted.
He was convicted of 34 felonies. Wait, why is that bad? You just said the the president should be able to pardon or do stuff like that. You know, they're the president.
I don't think he he couldn't pardon himself there because it's a state crime. You can pardon yourself from federal crimes, not state crimes as president.
But isn't is it not the same concept?
No, because you literally cannot pardon a state crime. You can pardon only a federal crime.
What's a pardon?
It removes the charge and the conviction. So, isn't that what Trump did.
For for people who assaulted police officers on January 6th?
I'm talking for his own federal crimes.
What federal crime?
Well, exactly. What federal crime? But the 32 or whatever that you love to bring up.
The 34 felonies are a state crime.
Okay. So, what did he do what did he do to get himself out of that? Um he he didn't he got elected and it didn't send him to prison. So he was convicted and he just wasn't sent to prison because you guys voted for him. So talk about holding people accountable. You didn't hold the very presidential candidate you support accountable.
You love saying I like I was like I didn't [ __ ] prosecute him. Like I had any power to do that. Like.
Sir, you literally still support voting for him. Like you think that if the election were held today Harris for Trump, you'd still vote for him. So the reason why I say that is because you support voting for him. Because I haven't actually seen proof of all these 34 claims like you love to.
He's been convicted, dude.
That's great.
What do you mean you haven't seen proof? He's been criminally.
Convicted.
Yes, it does, man.
So, well, you think it means in most circum No, I I believe a criminal conviction in most circumstances does mean that someone's guilty. Can there be circumstances where someone's criminally convicted and they are not guilty? Yes, of course, that can be the case. But what you're not understanding is that you'd have to have good reason to not accept the conviction in that particular scenario. In the scenario with Donald Trump, there's no good reason to believe that the conviction is false.
Then why does nobody believe it?
People do.
Why is he not in jail?
People typically do believe this. Why is he not in jail? Because he was elected president. Like I told you.
A lot of people don't.
Okay. But most people do.
I mean, if people do I mean it it shows if if people actually believe that, wouldn't he be in jail?
People do by your own logic.
Sir. People do believe it. People do believe it.
Believe that. Then wouldn't they prosecute him?
He was prosecuted. He was convicted.
Bro.
So, people do believe it. It's just the fact that one, it's not as bad as other crimes, so there's not as much pressure from the public. And then two, um, in terms of the particular crimes that he committed, right, he was elected president, so he wasn't even sent to prison within the context of the sentencing.
I I I genuinely don't understand. I genuinely don't understand how it's so easy for you to be like, "Oh, well, it came out that like it came out that it he was guilty, but he wasn't guilty, so that means he did."
That's not what I said. I never said that he wasn't guilty. Where did you get that? I never once said that.
But he wasn't actually held for the crimes.
He He was He was criminally convicted. He just wasn't sentenced.
Happens all the time when people haven't actually committed a crime.
Not true. Um because they're not elected. The reason why he wasn't put in prison is because he was elected president. That's not typical. That's not very common for the president of the United States to be convicted of a crime and to not be put in prison because they were elected president. I think this might be the only time you're telling me the only reason he's not in prison is because he was president.
Yeah. Literally the only reason.
Literally.
What? Can you show me proof of that?
That's in the sentencing. Go read Go read the core documents of the sentencing.
It's your claim. Like you said.
Yeah, I'm telling you where to find it.
Like, I'm literally telling you where to find it, dude. Like, if you could tell me where to find it, I wouldn't tell you to look it up again. That makes no sense. If you could tell me where to find it, I would look at the information. You're what are his actual crimes in there then?
Falsification of business records in the first degree, which is a classy felony in the state of New York. What he essentially tried to do was falsify business records to hide the hush money payments that he made to Stormy Daniels because he cheated on his wife while she was pregnant and he was literally trying to cover that up. So, it didn't affect his election prospects. Yeah. How much how much would the sentence actually be for that crime?
I'm not quite sure the exact sentence.
I'm pretty sure it's under a year.
Um regardless, he would have been sent to prison. And um I I don't know where you would have seen that cuz it's a felony. Well, I just think it's funny how the only like actual thing you can prove him on is something to that has nothing to do with the claims that you spit out all the time, which is basically blasphemy of Trump's name. It's himself cuz you y'all like to call him a pervert. Y'all.
He said, by the way, he said blasphemy, by the way. So, you think Trump is God, too?
The the word blasphemy does not just apply to God.
Can you can you define blasphemy? The word blasphemy does not just apply to God.
So what does it mean?
You're deflecting. You're deflecting.
Can you Can you Can you define the term blasphemy?
Can you get to the point, man?
Can you define the term blasphemy?
I'll concede. I'm wrong. I don't care. Can you Can we get to my point now?
You are wrong.
Okay. Great. Can I Can I get to my point?
You're literally a cultist for saying blasphemy of Trump's name. That's crazy. The reason this is true. I do talk about this all the time and I bring up the fact that you guys didn't hold him accountable and you didn't put him in prison because of this. And then also I can prove all the other points about him. This is just the one I'm proving right now.
No, you literally can't because all the claims about him about him being him essaying a woman, I've yet to have seen any of those actually proven. And those are the things people.
So, they have been proven. I'll explain. So, Trump was held liable of sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll uh in a by unanimous decision of all nine people in a jury. All of them determined that Donald Trump sexually abused E. Jean Carroll. So, in a civil court, a jury determined this to be true. A jury of Donald Trump's peers. I absolutely do accept that to be true.
She likes grape.
She never said that.
You're talking. She did.
No, she didn't. You want to bet?
Yes.
How much?
There's so much proof of saying that.
How much bet?
Uh, how much you got?
100 bucks.
Ooh. Make it 90.
Okay. 90 bucks. Okay. She said that other people think that grape is sexy and that perpetuates bad conditions within our society for grape culture. She never said that she thinks it's sexy herself. Okay, you owe me 90 bucks. Venmo PayPal link tree in the bio as well as the description of YouTube. So as you can support me over YouTube super chat.
Can you pull it up?
Yeah. Alrighty.
Victim.
You don't feel like a victim.
I was not thrown on the ground and ravished, which the word carries so many sexual connotations. This was not this was not sexual for it just it it hurt. It just it just you know.
But I think most people as a I mean it is a violent assault. It is not.
I think most people think as being sexy. Let's take a short break.
Think of the fantasies.
Okay. She said most people. She didn't say herself. And you can disagree with the idea that you think it's most people because she's specifically as a victim trying to talk about the prevalence of culture and how that impacts victims. So, let me just clarify that she's specifically talking about other people, not herself. So, you owe me 90 bucks. Bro.
Would you trust you genuinely trust a woman that said after a claim like that.
90 bucks.
After that?
90 bucks. Where's it at?
After that says that.
90 bucks. Where's that [ __ ] at?
Where is that [ __ ] 90 bucks. Venmo, PayPal. Where's the $90? Okay, I'm waiting.
Proof. That's y'all's proof.
I literally played the clip of it. Like what's up with a second person today who lost a bet? I play the clip proving them wrong and they still deny it.
You know, Trump supporters love denying reality in 4K.
Trump supporters love denying like you guys you guys are just farming YouTube content for me at this point cuz like you know this is going to be a YouTube video, right, of you just literally denying reality.
Oh yeah, tag me.
Well, I'll make sure to censor that one out. My editor will actually be bleep that.
Yeah, bleeped out again.
Ah, got me.
You you understand? Like my editor will literally bleep that out.
Got me again. Bleeped out again.
We can just We can just cut this part. You know that, right?
It's really easy.
Cut. You can cut a video.
Yeah.
Whoa.
So, where's the 90 bucks? Pay up.
That's future technology right there.
Pay up. 90 bucks. Venmo. PayPal. Where you at, buddy? Did I just pull a Trump?
Oh, you're you're not going to pay up.
Did I just pull a Trump?
You're not going to pay up, are you?
I got taco syndrome. I backed out.
Oh, look at that. Look at that chat. Look at that. So So uh so out of the ordinary look a Trump supporter isn't isn't actually going to pay up.
So surprised like I'm not a Trump supporter.
So by the way, well, you just said that you would vote for Trump over Harris if the election were held today. So that is a Trump supporter. Okay. Yeah. I just said you're acting surprised like I'm not a Christian. Are you Christian? It was a joke. It was a joke.
Are you Christian?
Uh, yeah. Damn.
Yeah, you are. So, you're Christian and then you are lying.
God bless.
Oh, bro. Really?
And you're not upholding your word. That sounds very Christian of you.
Cuz I made a bet online.
Yeah. And you didn't uphold the bet? Yeah. When you lost. When you blatantly, objectively lost and I proved you wrong in 4K.
Oh, so am I going to burn now? Well, according to your own religion. Yeah.
You're engaging in willful sin, right? Unapologetically.
I thought all sins were forgivable, though.
But it's un You're engaging unapologetically. You're not repenting.
Do I have to repent in front of you?
Yes.
You're not.
That was Okay. Wait. I I thought I thought you were saying, "Do I have to repent?" I didn't hear the on the live part. I apologize.
I was about to say, last time I checked, you're not God, man.
Yeah, but you do have to repent. me.
Well, I mean, I am Jesus.
I I don't know what that means, but okay.
You You've never heard of Christianity before?
No. That sounds like some stupid [ __ ].
You should look into it. The Bible is absolutely life-changing. You should get your own version of the Bible.
It's like the Trump Bible, bro.
It's the Bible. You see it?
The Trump Bible. Do.
Do you like the Bible, bro?
It's got the Trump Bible. This is the Bible. Okay.
Well, before I go, I I just want you to just do me one big favor since you love condemning people and since you know you can't go back on a on a claim that's been.
Okay. I'm just going to kick you.
Just you owe me 90 bucks. He's just going to make the same argument that he made earlier. I know exactly what he was about to say. Like we already went through.