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What Both Sides Are Hiding About Mitch

George Webb, Investigative Journalist1:12:13

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Uh, the program is surveillance. The program is domestic surveillance. You hear me walking around in the dark here. It's early. I'm going to grab my headphones now.

Uh, the program is domestic surveillance. It's called Operation Blackjack. Um, it uses private planes to do surveillance to do things like collection of phones, collection of faces. It's also doesn't just use planes. It uses drones. It uses on the ground human intelligence that our ROC friends seem to be engaged in at UVU the day Charlie shot. It uses a multi-layered collection scheme and um so it's complicated.

Uh, multi-layered collection and surveillance is complicated. And what uh what we've seen in this story is basically players in that program, Tyler Robinson and the ROC, um various other folks, Mitch as an ISR analyst of this of kind of data from uh the Blackjack program, be reintroduced in different ways to uh to confuse, to to make it so that you don't see the program. Uh, it's sort of like, you know, if you had um uh the you were watching a play and you're expecting Macbeth and then all of a sudden you get a couple of sentences from A Midsummer Night's Dream and then some other play, and it's meant to confuse you. So, you get all the characters and all the roles mixed up.

And I know how unpopular this is, but that's okay. Um, all of this information that's being brought to you this morning is being generated from on the ground research, door knocking, individual interviews, and I know how out of favor that is right now, but uh I'm sorry, I don't know any other way. So, just one second. Sorry, I didn't have my uh headphones situated. Beautiful day. Beautiful morning.

Um, yeah, sometimes [sighs] sometimes on the ground research um sometimes in-depth research, sometimes deep research is not um is is not is not valued. Uh, sometimes there's fashion and fad and and uh that's the thing. Uh, and there's nothing you can do about it. You you can explain how um things work and either people decide that that's a valuable uh thing to do with on the ground research and looking at all these programs, or they say no, it's it's something else. But I hate to uh well, I'm I'm just going to say the truth uh that I found on the ground and then um you can uh make your uh conclusions from there. I'll just present the evidence that I've gathered.

But um, let's just start with Erica's plane. I know everybody wants to make Erica the um I I I know everyone wants to make Erica the witch, the wicked witch of the West in this story. It's an it's an easy way to tell a story. You have a witch and then you have a good person, right? You have you have basically Candace Owens is Dorothy, right? and or the Wizard of Oz. And and you have the Wicked Witch, which is Erica. And um you tell the story in a simple way. Everyone's familiar with the story. Um, they just redid Oz. I get it. It's the Wicked Witch going after Dorothy. And uh it's a way of keeping the story straight. Uh, but my point is is the the true story uh is much more sophisticated than that and it's much more insidious than that. And I don't know how to tell you other than just telling you. I won't try to say it by an analogy or anything, but let's just start with Erica's plane.

Um, Erica is not the one running the domestic surveillance program. Her mother has a contractor. Her mother, AZ Tech, is a contractor in that business. Um, she's not the one at Fort Wuka running the domestic surveillance program on everyone in the United States. Uh, she's not the one who's collecting all the names, phone [snorts] numbers at every Charlie Kirk event, at every Trump event, at every JD Vance event. That's not her program. It's a military program. That that's just the the facts. Uh, Erica is not running this program. And TPUSA is not running this program. TPUSA is doing the money laundering. TPUSA is uh doing some of the collection, a lot of the collection, setting up the events and doing the collection. TPUSA is getting the funding for the mega donors to hide the program. All those things are true.

But let's just start with the first piece of evidence, which is Erica's plane, and it's an Israeli cyber uh hacking plane. Um, cyber hacking firm owns it. Uh, US technology and Erica's plane uh going all around and again, analyzing the metadata, not analyzing uh Erica's makeup or analyzing how uh how often she cries or anything like that, but just looking at the metadata of the plane. I I did this with Jeff Epstein and it was a tough uphill battle for nine years and so but it but the information turned out to be right with Aude Barack and his close relationship with Bill Gates. This is the same thing with the uh plane. It the plane is an Israeli spy plane. There's just no two ways about it. The Israeli spy plane is going to different places like Dan Flood in in Austin, Texas, where there's a Green Bay military base. It's going to Wilmington where there's a collection facility and a database with credit card information. The Israeli planes are going to the same location. Uh, it's funding. These are all funnel points, collection points of people like you and me and your phones and your faces and your um your your vehicles, everything about you, where you live, all the uh video of you speaking. Um, and it it is hidden in in plain sight. I don't know how else to say it, but everyone thinks it's Erica somehow driving the bus, and it's not. It's a program called Operation Blackjack. We've been talking about it for nine years.

What's going to what I fear what I fear is this one contention that Mitch Snow, who I believe is an ISR analyst, he is the kind of a person and I'll explain how the foro uh works in a second uh with with airborne army rangers and special forces rangers and sort of is their eyes and ears. I'll explain that in a second and Mitch's career path that I've been able to distill right now. But my point is is you're not seeing Mitch as someone who's inhaling all the information. I I'll move it to the next uh level level here in the um so first off is is look at the the metadata. There's two things you could look at in this picture with with Erica Kirk getting on the plane. You can look at Erica Kirk and you can see the the mascara coming down her eyes and you can see her as an evil witch, as the wicked witch of the West. Or you can see the plane that she's getting on, which is an Israeli spy plane. Surveillance R Us. You can see it right there on the outside of the skin of the plane. This Gulf uh this uh uh Gulfstream 5 built in 1998. It's collecting this. These planes are fitted out and kitted out to collect information on the ground information, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance information. The plane that she's flying around in. You may think, "Oh, she's got a lot of vanity. She's got the Gucci bags and she's, you know, bougie, you know, and is got the $6 million house and so forth." But again, it's a front for this surveillance, Israeli surveillance and collection. I don't know how else to say it. Uh, but that's what it is. Um, and uh, so there's two ways of looking at anything. You can look at the player, which is Erica, or you can look at the the program or the plane, right, which is the program. And it and it's again, as I said, it's multi-layered. It's satellites. It's drones for which is not just uh not just satellites, not just ISR planes. It's also drones to help support the war fighter once they you know, land with their parachute.

So, uh, I'll get into Mitch's background where I think he became an ISR analyst and the kind of the the turn he took when he was injured. And there's I go through all the stories about Mitch and and so forth about him saying he was injured in combat. Other his ex-wives are much less uh, you know, they tell stories that he was drinking and he was doing some kind of barroom stunt. I think that if you look at the metadata, somewhere in the in between is the truth. He got hurt in training. It was only in a year. This is the same thing that happened to Snowden. And once these uh special forces guys land on the ground, [clears throat] the thing that's different between now and World War II, and the thing they do here at Fort Benning, and I went to Fort Benning a number of times, uh is that once they land on the ground, they use the drones to coordinate them. In Normandy, if you saw the movie The Longest Day, everyone's scattered. There's no communication. Their whole um the whole idea of special forces is to hit fast and hit at the enemy's weak points. They're not they're completely outnumbered, but the surprise is is the name of the game. Coordination is the name of the game, right? So, that's what Fort Wuka does. It coordinates all these guys as they're landing. And if you looked at him getting injured in his jump training, if you can't jump out of the planes anymore, you coordinate the guys who are jumping out of the planes. That's what that's how you move from 82nd Airborne to Fort Wuka. Fort Wuka is the brain stem of any uh of any landing. Now, if we were to do another Normandy 1944 with a whole bunch of chalks, you know, landing in Venezuela, it would be Fort Wuka that's coordinating the on the ground. It would be ISR planes that is looking at the enemy and where they're gathering their electronic devices, picking up their electronic devices, as well as coordinating our forces there.

What the metadata tells you is that Mitch couldn't jump out of planes anymore and so he moved into this ISR world, which is which is Operation Blackjack. And the reason why it uses civilians is because it's illegal. Against we talked the joint task force down there, we talked about being David Petraeus joint task force and we said with Andy McCabe, and this goes back to me saying this in 1992010, the domestic program just added a T to Joint Terrorism Task Force. Joint Terrorism Task Force with Andy McCabe basically was this program. Bob Mueller, Andy McCabe, etc., Peter Struck, putting this surveillance that you would use overseas in an overseas warfare situation on the American people. That's why it was illegal until very recently. You saw maybe uh Baron show where General Guo uh was testifying saying, well um, Joint Task Force is now JTTF and it is okay, and I and I will execute orders in the United States to attack on Americans. So now this is coming to the four, this validation and verification of what we said of the transition of the Fort Wuka JTFs to the Fort uh to the FBI JTTF by putting all these uh military guys into the into the FBI. But this is the program. This is what's happening.

So, you can either see Mitch as the player or see the program, but you can also use Mitch as a way of walking you through the program from the players to the program, right? Because he's the one who transitions from this world on the left, which is out there in the field, jumping out of the planes and doing the on-site on the ground uh operations, to going into the building that you see that I'm pointing to, right, going into the building and coordinating these guys and coordinating these guys. That's an ISR analyst coordinating these guys once they get on the ground. He hurt himself during jump training, I believe. If you look at his wrists, I mean, his thumbs being hurt. He didn't It's not his wife that hit it with a hammer. It's it's it's some kind of training injury. He says he fell 80 feet. Um, the the actual jump platform at Fort Benning is 80 feet, right? So, I'm I'm saying he did fall the 80 feet. He did have an injury. If you look at him having a heavy backpack and then falling on his back and hitting his head, it is does align with his injuries. It does align with him transitioning from this world over here, right, which is on the ground doing jumping, to this world over here, being one of the ISR analysts supporting the guys on the ground, supporting the guys on the ground. And that's basically what he's done in the missing years. Uh, and I wrote this about the missing years, but the jump training, I think, is the thing. This is the guys jumping off the 80 foot. Uh, uh, anybody who's been through special forces and and been through jump training at Fort Benning will tell you the same thing. This is the scary part of the training because you're jumping 80 feet. It's kind of like a high dive without water. It's to get you over the psychological uh thing, a natural human reaction of not jumping. Uh, and you're only tethered um, you know, by by the by your two straps. And and this is what they do. This is what they use to get you over the psychological [sighs] resistance to jumping out of a building, right? To get you into a comfort level that you can jump and you can make it, right? But what happens a lot is because it is such a distance and you do fall at such a great speed, they're trying to simulate how fast you're falling in a real jump. There's lots of injuries that come out of this. Snowden broke his leg in this. A lot of guys don't fall right. There's what, 13 points of contact that you're supposed to have as in a controlled roll. A lot of people don't get it right. They hit their head, they hit their back, they they get injured, and then what do you do with them? Well, then you say, "Well, you're gonna we're gonna get a desk job for you. You know what these guys are doing now. We're gonna get a desk job for you." Right? And this is, I think, the key the key switch of of Mitch to an ISR role. ISR supporting these guys once they're on the ground. ISR is supporting these guys once they're on the ground.

And when you move into the domestic programs, you have to make it illegal. You have to hide it in undercover programs. You have to hide it undercover programs. You can't use the military insignia and so forth. You have to hide it with Erica now and you have to call the you can't call the plane um whatever uh Fort Wuka, you know, 82nd Airborne uh you have to call it US technology and you have to hide it in an Israeli spy plane. But that's the program, right? That's the program. So I tried to make that point yesterday in the missing years of Mitch. Here's Mitch saying how the all these injuries happened. I just want to remind people that this is not credible. Uh, but I'll just play it for you to go for this meeting. You know, she came out and [sighs] acting real kind. She Yeah, she took my keys, she took my phone, she went back inside and, you know, forced me to go back in and find out what was going on. Lures me to the garage that she preset up to be like a like a little prison, you know. She broke the garage doors, stuff was stacked against the windows and the other doors. So, and uh she lured me in there and attacked me. Um, hit me with a hammer and, you know, break my thumbs, my feet, back my skull and uh I got the hand. What year was this? >> That was in uh that was 25 June 2016. >> So, this is how long this has been going on. And just so everyone know, Mitch is still trying to get a divorce. This has been going on almost 10 years. And this is You're still having You're still not divorced. And this is back in 2016. This is crazy. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, she did that and eventually I was hearing my son cry. I was worried about him, you know, having her maul him with the dogs again. And she had done that multiple times. He had been hurt really bad. So I when I heard him crying, I I used the hammer to go ahead and break the door handle to get back in to get to my keys, get my son, get my phone, and uh yeah, I called for help. You know, I called for dispatch and, you know, she tried to attack me and pulled on my arm while I was holding the phone, dislocated my arm. That's actually one of the surgery. So, yeah, he says that's one of the surgeries. And I saw a comment here saying one of his wives said he was rock climbing. And that's true. One of his wives did say he was rock climbing uh and fell rock climbing. Uh, another one uh who's less uh less generous with him says it's another way. But you can see there's several different stories here. There's at least five different stories of how he got his his injuries. And when I see this four or five different stories about how he got his injuries, um, what I I tend to say is it's it's it's not he's supposedly here spent 10 years trying to get divorced. I don't think it's that hard to get divorced in Washington. Um, he's still married to her. Um, this this was made in April of this year. So this incident with a hammer supposedly happened 10 years ago. So, how are his thumbs hurt? How is the back of his head hurt? How is his back hurt? And so forth. I think you're going to find when it's all said and done that he actually was hurt in jump training. Uh, somebody said jumping 80 feet is dying and getting over the the the fear of dying. I couldn't agree more. Um, so there you go. Um, I'm I there is several stories out there, but what my the point is the metadata is there's many stories and that's usually a cover story. When you can't get your story straight and there's five different cover stories, it's usually indicates that you're covering something. And what I believe he's covering is they said, "Hey, why don't you go into the intelligence side? If you can't jump out of the planes anymore, why don't you go into the intelligence side?" The same thing happened with Snowden. The same thing happened when Snowden transferred into the NSA and CIA. The same exact thing happened with Snowden. It happens all the time. Why why throw away the the guy? He's been trained. He's gone through the whole thing. He's got high aptitude. He's very intelligent guy and so forth. Why not make him an intelligence officer? And I think this explains Mitch's last 35 years um in various forms.

So I just um but man, you know um everyone has this where I say this is the pan vision looking at the whole story um with him him as the witness, him telling the story, right, versus um him and here I had a little fun with nurse ratchet going after his thumbs. Sorry, people didn't like that that I made Mitch going after. But this is the real world of Mitch. This this is the 35 missing years is Mitch sitting here watching the ISR planes go to various rallies in the United States and picking up the phone numbers, picking up the metadata of the cars, picking up the facial recognition technology. This is what ISR analysts do at Fort Wuka. This is what Fort Wuka does, right? This is going to be the thing that everybody realizes is true when it's all said and done. I know this is not necessarily very popular because everybody wants to say Mitch hadn't been there in 35 years and was just taking pictures of the lobby and accidentally got pictures of Erica Kirk. That doesn't show the true role of Erica Kirk and her mother. Um, but here I see it right here. He worked at a submarine base. He's worked at nuclear power plants in security teams. That's also ISR where they take when when people are coming and going around the nuclear base, they they capture all the phones because they're trying to suss out spies that could be trying to infiltrate into the nuclear base proactively. Uh, they do the same thing about our own nuclear power plants. Um, this is how ISR is done. This is how he he spent his whole career. 2010 he changes, he takes his wife's names, Snow, but he's basically in the same game. He's around either nuclear submarines or nuclear power plants, and this is the idea of ISR and this is the idea of run out of Fort Wuka. You can run this domestically as a domestic program out of Fort Wuka for military bases and submarine bases and nuclear power plants, which is what he does. If you look at his career, it's followed the ISR track ever since he left Fort Wuka, right? Or ever since he left uh jump training. So I know how hard this is for people to believe that somebody who's trained in something and has a career track record in ISR would continue with that same career for 35 years. But I think when it's all said and done, you're going to see that they move from tracking people that were going into nuclear bases where he worked in Breton on a submarine base. He worked at Fort Bragg also for psychological operations. He worked uh in Fort Wuka. He's worked at uh nuclear power plant in Pacific Northwest Labs. This is moving from domestic locations where you're allowed to do ISR around nuclear assets here in the United States to political. The only thing you're doing is just changing the locations of the planes. And if you look at the metadata in this story with Erica's plane at US for US doing collection, the two Egyptian planes doing collection, the plane that comes into Charlie's from Fort Hood, uh the ch the plane that comes in that day as well, they're all ISR collection planes. They're all focused on not who the speaker is. They're they're focused on getting the information of the people in the crowd. And this is going to be Mitch's career for 35 years. The only thing that changes is where Mitch is doing the ISR. Is it around a nuclear power plant? Is it around in in Pasco, Washington? Is it around a new uh submarine base in Breton? Or is it around a Charlie Kirk event? Is it around a Charlie Kirk event? This is why I say there's no doubt in my mind he knows who Erica Kirk is. There's no doubt in my mind he knows who Erica Kirk's mother is and father because they do ISR, right? That's what A Tech does. So the fact that Mitch has got a picture of Erica Kirk, I think he's got hundreds because this is his business. This is their business. Their business is the same, right? Their business is the same.

So um the like I said, the only thing that changes in this world is just where the planes are circling, right? Instead of circling in Pasco here around where he lives, instead of circling around Breton where he used to live in in the um in the great Northwest in the Puget Sound, now they're circling uh in Utah where he's meeting with Charlie Kirk, or they're circling in Georgia, circling in New Jersey, or wherever that is, Pennsylvania uh uh in um in Butler, or up here in Minnesota with Nick Shirley and his his two parents that are involved in money laundering. [laughter] [snorts] Isn't it interesting that Dick Shirley's parents involve money laundering? I think that's interesting. That's funny. It's not, you know, he didn't mention he's I got the citizen journalism award and I'm a virgin. He that's what his tagline was. Not my two parents were involved in a money in money laundering. But anyway, there you go. I guess that's what you need to have in order to be citizen journalist of the year.

Here's Oliver Stone's uh Snowden movie. This is Snowden showing him how he moved from after he broke his leg. I think he might have broken the other leg too in jump training. I think he might have broke both legs, but they just made him a CIA guy and then CIA transitioned into the NSA. It's that's depicted in the Oliver Stone movie. Again, we've said for nine years it's Operation Blackjack. I fear that once that Mitch doesn't have a picture of Erica in the lobby. Um, I know that Erica has I cannot say what the um I cannot say what the alibi is, but I in my conversation with Candace, I know Erica has an alibi for the ETH. I can't say what it is because I I said I wouldn't say it in confidence uh off the record, but I know she has an alibi. And what's going to happen, I think, and I fear is people are going to throw out everything that we've done for talking about domestic surveillance at Fort Wuka because one thing isn't true that Erica Kirk's not at the Candlewood that morning, right? Or that evening on the ETH. And it's going to throw out all the research we've done. It's going to throw out all of our research into the domestic spying program. is going to throw out all the people who've died in order to get us this information like Task Force. It's going to be thrown out. Uh, but it is what it is. Um, that's why I don't want to put all of our eggs in one basket. That's why I want to do the Doge audit to get to the bottom of the money laundering both at Fort Wuka. I want to get to the bottom of the money laundering at TPUSA, but I want to get to the bottom of the of the hidden domestic surveillance program at Fort Wuka, which is another Doge audit. And I feel the more we focus on Mitch seeing her him uh Erica Kirk in the lobby that evening, the more we pile on and and the more chips that we put on that, you know, hitting that number, the the further we get away from the program, which is Blackjack, the further we get away from the domestic spying and surveillance program, the further we get away from the metadata of Erica's planes, even Erica's own plane is a spy plane. The two planes following her spy planes. The fourth plane that goes and circles around Charlie that morning is a spy plane. The drones are all uh adding into this as well. Uh, it's a surveillance program. I don't know how else to say it. The general yesterday, the Guyo U or Gui Lo T said they moved from JTF, which is Fort Wuka, to JTTF with the FBI. We've been saying that since 2010 with Andy McCabe and Bob Mueller. So, I feel like we're throwing the program away for one specific thing to prove one specific thing, and it's an all or nothing case. It's an all or nothing bet on Mitch seeing Erica in that lobby on the Candlewood on the ETH. And I know there's an alibi. So, it's going to be an all or nothing bet and then we're going to throw out everything we know about Fort Wuka. But [snorts] anyway, it is what it is. Um, we're uh these programs are done by PL in planes. If you follow the planes, you're going to get the answer. Especially these off-book covert uh transfers. All you need is to have a um from these planes and collection. All you need to have is the thumb drive. Mitch can put the thumb drive into his authorized uh uh workstation. And the cypernet is the secure internet protocol that these uh he could have a cypernet terminal in his house, do all the analysis that he needs to do, and vice versa. He can pull analysis and then give it back the people coming in at the Pasco airport, or he can fly to Fort Wuka, which is what I think he's been doing. Uh, just fly to Wuka and give the information and analysis and then fly back for your cover job as a security analyst doing the same ISR right was in Pasco 5 days right. I saw the planes, same ISR that you're doing around the nuclear plants, you just do it for political political parties, political events. So um again, just a few pictures of me in Pasco and the deep dive of his wife uh being working at the nuclear plant where the nuclear weapons are made. Um, that seems he's still married to her. 10 10 years ago he hit her. 10 years ago. Uh, this gal here at the nuclear power plant and the nuclear weapons plant hit him in the hands with a hammer and hit him in the back of the head and sick the dogs with an S on their son. They had all these problems, but they're still married 10 years later. How could that be? No convictions 10 years later. Either way, no no arrests either way. How could that be if it's not a cover? How could that be if it's not an elaborate cover?

But one thing's for sure, and I've said this from the beginning, as soon as Mitch was introduced, as soon as Mitch was introduced, we got away from Doge. We got away from Doge at Fort Wuka so that A Tech were not being able to follow up on AZ Tech. We got away from all the money laundering and the $6 million houses for all the people involved that are the Tyler Boyers and the Justin Stripes. We got away from DuPont, right? We got away from DuPont and we got away from Doge, right? That's what Mitch has brought. How long we've been talking about Fort Wuka, fine, fix, and finish with Flynn? About eight, nine years now. Something like that. Long time. Fine, fix, and finish is what Fort Wuka does. Once these guys land, you have to have somebody at the command and control coordinating them. That's the whole idea. It's Normandy with a brain stem. It's not an uncoordinated. You saw John Wayne, he broke his leg when he landed. He has to put his leg on a splint on a jeep. He's, you know, look, we got people all all around. You know, they're everywhere. They're 10 miles from the drop zone, right? You know, uh they're in the swamp. They landed in the swamp. It's it's just, you know, discombobulated uncoordinated Normandy in the longest days uncoordinated. This is what Fort Wuka does. It's the ISR of bringing all the forces together and coordinating them once they land on the ground. It's also about collection of the enemy and the enemy's electronic uh and visual evidence so that you can see the targets up above, right? So that not only does the war fighter orient themselves where they are, but they orient themselves to their targets. Right? So, you're getting a real-time feed of the war fighter going to the objectives and taking out the identified assets. The ISR that Mitch is doing are the identified assets. The only thing that's changed in this fine, fix, and finish paradigm from a warfighting situation to the domestic situation is you are the target. Your car is the target, right? Your face is the target in a domestic spying situation. That's the only thing that changes in fine, fix, and finish. And the drones that are used at Fort Wuka are now being used in Finnish in Gaza. The quadcopter drones are now being used as the final. There's no human in the kill chain even anymore. And that same kill chain that's being perfected in Gaza right now is being planned for the United States. Right. So um airborne uh it's Wuka is 1944. Um, the airborne without Wuka is Normandy 1944. Right. It is that scattered troops, poor situational awareness, friendly fire, enemy regrouping gives the enemy time to regroup. Right? Modern warfare, modern airborne, modern 82nd Airborne is persistent ISR before, during, and after insertion. That's the name of the game. That's the name of the game, and that's what Mitch ended up doing.

Now, I watched Baron's podcast last night. Um, it's not popular right now. Gumshoe is not popular right now. Knocking on doors is not popular right now. Going to courous is not popular. It's all or nothing on this. If Mitch saw uh Erica in the lobby that night on the ETH where I know she has an alibi. Um, but it is what it is. But here's somebody who came into Baron's podcast last night and said, "Why would Mitch go there to confront someone about not getting into the witness protection program after 35 years? His records aren't there." Right? This is a person who says his service records are at the VA, and I took you to the VA hospital in Pasco, right? Or to the VA uh to the veteran services in Pasco, and I also took you to veteran services in Richland. The VA hospital not far away, 70 miles away in Walla Walla, right? So why would he go there unless he had a persistent reason for going there as an ISR analyst, right? This came up and Baron said, "It's not my job to vet Mitch. The only thing that matters is Mitch seeing Erica in the lobby." Okay. Well, that throws out all the metadata, right? That just throws out all the metadata. Uh, and I don't know why you would not want to keep the metadata of 35 years of history versus one incident, one sighting, right, by a guy whose credibility is not so great after threatening a judge. So anyway, it is what it is. This is wildly popular. 21,000 people watching this saying the only thing that matters is Mitch seeing Erica in the lobby, and and the metadata approach here of the last 35 years is not popular right now. So be it. So be it. There's nothing I can do about it. I can only present the information. I can only go to the location. I can only interview the people and I can only get the records. That's all I can do. Uh, and when it becomes popular, well, we'll see. But I I I see us putting all the chips on whether or not Erica was in the lobby. And that doesn't make any difference in terms of outing the program. I don't need that bet to come in, right, in order to have our validity of nine years of research into Wuka doing domestic surveillance, right? So, we're we're fighting for two different things. I think um most of the folks out there are fighting whether Erica's in the lobby on the ETH or not. I know she's not. I know she has an alibi. I know the program is far more important, but I see all the chips going on Erica being in the lobby. Why? I don't know. But it's wildly popular right now. And all I can do is just tell the truth and go do the work and then let the chips fall where they may. I've seen it before. It reminds me an awful lot of January 6th.

Um, here's Mitch supposedly coming into Baron's thing last night. Real Mitch now, and he goes, "The insinuation I was in the lobby taking pictures because I was a perve uh uh he was he's a little insulted because Baron said he was taking pictures in the lobby uh at Pretty Blonde Girls because he was a perve." Mitch says, "I was taking pictures because the Cottonwoods uh Candlewood Suites were converted from barracks that I stayed in 35 years ago." This could be Mitch. This could be Mitch trying to explain the missing years. Could be Mitch trying to say, "The last time I was there was 35 years ago coming on to Baron's show." Why would you do that? Because you don't want to talk about the missing years. I wrote the missing years. Mitch knows I'm in Pasco, right? Um, he's seen me go to all the places. He's seen me to go to all the different locations. He knows I'm here, right? He has to fill in the last 35 years. I think the reason he came on Baron show last night was to say, "I haven't been there in 35 years." He was trying to re-establish the fact he hadn't been there in 35 years. Again, denying the program, denying Blackjack, denying what Wuka does, denying being an ISR analyst. I know what he does in Pasco. I know what he did in Breton. I know what he did at Fort Bragg. He's an ISR analyst, right? Pure plain and simple. I know he can't say it out loud. He can't put it on his LinkedIn because it's illegal to have a spying program to use these assets that are supposed to be protecting our nuclear facilities and be using them in political events. I know why he's saying he doesn't have a job for the last 35 years and lived off all these women. But in actual fact, you're going to find at the end of the day, he's an ISR analyst. At the end of the day, he's an ISR analyst. And I go into this in detail um just to remind people of what we've done over the last um uh o over the last nine years, but um it's this is it. I mean, this is this is the summation. Is the ISR isn't just a camera on a plane. It's a whole network of collection. It's a whole network of collection. Right? Blackjack is a military strategy of pervasive collection. It's not a myth. It's true, right? It's a documented DARPA concept. Operation Blackjack airframes mimic the military IC ISR. When you see civilian planes acting like military ISR, it's because they are military ISR disguised as civilian planes, right? And the uh missing years, right, are not I'm not trying to say Mitch is a bad guy. I'm what I'm trying to say is that is the thing. That's the metadata that tells you what Mitch has really been doing, right? That solves the the whole thing. That's that's the program they're trying to hide. Mitch wouldn't be on Baron's show last night saying, "The last time I was here, it was a barracks." He wouldn't be doing that unless he was trying to hide the missing years. Right. Um, and I've said this before. Um, whistleblowers aren't always what they seem to be, right? Nuclear security is a parallel cover story for doing domestic collection. As I said, you fly the planes around in a circle. I've seen them here. I've seen them in Pasco when I was in Pasco. I'm not there anymore. I've left Pasco now. But, um, this the same thing is true in Breton when he was flying over the submarine bases. This is standard operating procedure. And now nuclear security is easily transitioned. You just change the location of where the planes fly. You just change the location of where the planes fly. It's just that simple. Um, and have they steered narratives before? J6, right? This is J6. So, um, and again, I'm not trying to villainize Mitch. I'm not trying to be mean to Mitch or anything. I'm not trying to drag his history or anything. I'm just trying to use Mitch to show the systems. I'm just trying to use Mitch to show the systems. [gasps]

So, um I'll go back to this and I'll go back to questions. Um uh I'll probably leave it right there with Mitch. So, okay. Good morning. Good morning, beautiful people. Um, let's see. Symmetrical injuries are incurred in flight um with an X seem highly suspect. Yeah, the symmetrical injuries don't again, he's still married to her, so it's almost like a cover story, right? It's almost like a cover story. He knows when he got injured. It was it's typically associated with jump training. Snowden was the same way. These are long periods of painful time where you're put up in traction and so forth, and you start having time to think about all your choices. A lot of anger comes from this. um, you know, a a lot of unrequited dreams, you know, that you you're never going to be the ranger you thought you were going to be, etc. Uh, and then they make um and then they and then they make them analysts. They make them desk jockeyies. That's what happens. Um, 10 years of hammered thumbs is a nightmare. Yeah, there's hammer toe. Mitch is brought into the American lexicon and hammer thumb. Hammer Thumbs. It might It's a good name of a movie. You know, Edward Scissorhands has got nothing on on on Mitch Hammer Thumbs. Um, let's see. Good morning from uh central Mexico. 80 degrees. Tom Gander down there in Mexico. Good morning, Tom. It's good to see you down there. Um, again, everybody that is in our group in Michigan has expertise. Tom's long expertise in automobile manufacturing. Uh, we went and walked down the Ford F-150 line together. We've we we have the experts. We don't I'm not uh I don't try to step in and say, "Yeah, it's my day to be a Ford F-150 expert." We have Tom, right? And this is what I I'm I'm trying to say this in the nicest way I can to Candace is bring in the people who know ISR. Bring in the people who know surveillance. Let them tell you what Fort Wuka is all about. Don't make it about the Candlewood. Don't make it about the breakfast bar. Don't make it about the fluffy omelets. Make it about people who are doing the uh who know about what they do at Fort Wuka and and the truth will come out. Luigi Mangioni had a rock climbing accident. Yeah. Similar story. Similar story. It it seems to be the cover story of choice, right? I was up 80 feet. If you were up 80 ft and you fell with a backpack on, would you survive that? I don't know. Sounds like they jumped. They all jumped off the same tower. So anyway, um, thank you for reposting. Um, [snorts] uh, it's not how things go in Washington. Uh, yeah. [clears throat] I'll I'll just say um eventually the gumshoe will pay off. Eventually the gumshoe gumshoe is not popular right now. Uh, the shoe burning the shoe leather in Pasco is not popular right now. Bringing up this Mitch past is not popular. Um, because it seems like you're trying to Everybody thinks I'm trying to undermine the whole story of the ETH. I'm not. I know Erica has a alibi pretty with witnesses. So, you know, I just see everybody piling all the chips onto a uh something I know is going to come up double zero, but we'll wait for the roulette wheel to spin here and uh we'll let everybody see how their bet turned out. So, um disability pay is more is much more if you're married. Okay. So, um, the person, the NSA person that that I was with that was taking me around all these military bases remained married so that she could use all the MWR facilities like Mitch is using. Uh, and they didn't get divorced even though because of the military benefits of when you're married, you can go to all the bases still. So, that could be how he got access to the base because Lanny somehow still has some kind of military commission. That's possible. or he could be using Massiey's his wife before that's um military card. So that's that's also possible. Um Mitch is a domestic surveillance violence survivor. Yeah. Mhm. [clears throat] Whatever happened to Chuck Johnson and Peter Teal being informants and how does that with Palunteer within uh with Inqel's uh being sponsored by Inqel? This is very much a part of a whole thing we're talking about because it's an illegal activity to do this much domestic collection. You farm it out to people like Palunteer. You farm it out through DARPA with the ISR technology, the new stuff that you put on the planes. Um, and then Chuck Johnson, uh, somebody that Peter uh Duke knew very well, was once a business partner, knew Palmer Lucky very well. Palmer Lucky also involved in ISR domestic collection. They're building the the new drones, the new collection drones. So, you won't even need pilots. You won't even need Egyptian uh teams. Uh, of course, those Egyptian teams might be security teams or kill teams following Charlie around if he ever said anything against um if you ever said anything against Israel or ever said anything against the war. But my point is this is all going to be drones in the future, the big drones. And they're building them in Columbus, Ohio right now. And Palmer Lucky, who's a good friend of Peter Util, and Palmer Lucky is a good friend of of Chuck Johnson. Peter knows him very well. Um, and Steve Bannon are are all [snorts] a part of this. This is farming out to a private contractor things that would be illegal if the government was doing them. Um, good morning, Tom, down there in Mexico. I wish I was in Mexico right now. I'm very cold right here where it is. Um, I went out yesterday at uh in Pasco and it was complete thick fog. Even at 8 o'clock, I could not even see 50 feet ahead of me. I couldn't see the Colombian. I was right on the Colombia. Um Um Well, that's not right. Somebody's saying both must go to court. Um, okay. Well, if that's the rule in Washington, um that's not how it is in um that's not how it is in Oregon. And I thought Oregon and Washington were reciprocity. I was divorced in Oregon, so it's something that I have some familiarity with. So, um, I'm not saying you don't have you don't have to go to court, but when you petition, you say reconcilable differences, it doesn't make any difference what's what your partner says. So, as a matter of fact, when I was there at the Pasco Courthouse, somebody right in front of me was getting divorced.

And they were going to have an uncontested divorce where they were, and her husband hadn't signed the agreement before they were going to file it with the court. So, okay.

Uh, not saying the court doesn't have to re-record it and so forth, but, um, it's because it's not a community property state like California. It's a no-fault divorce. Judges almost always grant when somebody says irreconcilable differences, they almost always grant the divorce. I'm pretty sure Oregon's almost exactly like Washington because they have reciprocity.

Um, yeah, Mitch's, you know, thumb injuries are not, I'm not saying that I'm not, I have sympathy for Mitch, right? And however he hurt his thumbs, whichever one of the five stories is true. My point is, is there five? There's five stories. So that's usually a cover story, right?

Uh, good morning. Uh, if Erica's, uh, has a credible alibi, won't truth seekers will still want to see if Charlie Kirk's head of security, Harpole, uh, was there, uh, before they abandoned ship? I agree with that. And I, and I'm trying to say that he probably will be there, but not because he was trying to kill Charlie Kirk, right? Because they have an ongoing ISR contract, you would naturally meet and go to Fort Huachuca and decide where the planes are going to come in, what time the event is going to be. You have to coordinate with ISR folks in the ISR planes to say, "When do you want to start circling?" If something changed in the agenda and it's, let's say, going to be an hour later delay for whatever reason, they can't get the amphitheater or the sound's bad or whatever, you have to tell the people at Fort Huachuca the day before that the dwell time has, you know, you want to start the circling an hour later, it's going to have to be an hour, uh, more dwell time, whatever the reasons. Or here's the path where you won't be seen. If you circle out over the lake, if you circle out over Utah Lake, we'll still pick up all the, the phones from that distance so you don't have to circle right directly overhead and make it obvious. Charlie's getting suspicious to see these circling planes every time we do a meeting, etc. It would make total sense that Erica's, uh, mother would be there as a tech, is, is the contractor and provider. It would make sense that she would go, but it just makes perfect sense that you would go the day before for Harpole to do the surveillance. That's your contract, right? If you're going to have an event the next day, going in the day before with a planning meeting makes total sense. The problem I see is it's being, it's being recast as some kind of assassination planning meeting, and it's putting the guilt of assassination on Erica Kirk and Brian Harpole. They're just conducting and fulfilling their ISR, ISR contract. They are not the people doing them the assassination. They're not the people who are saying, "We've got to, it's time to pull the plug on Charlie." And that's the part where they're putting two people and pitting them against each other, right? And it's removing the person who's responsible for the murder, right? It's removing the kill team that's responsible for the murder.

The reason why there's Egyptian planes following is it's great to have, uh, US Technologies and it's great to have Erica's spy plane, right? It's great to have this third-party spy plane flying out of Texas that day, but hey, we just want to have our own facility, our own offshore foreign collection as well. And we'll marry all of them at the database when we put them into the database. That's the whole idea of having, uh, two extra planes. And they don't even trust one plane versus the other. They have two planes. One's a wide-angle lens and one's the, the zoom lens, if you will. But again, does that show trust for Erica to be constantly shadowing her with these ISR planes? No, it doesn't. They're just, the reason why Brian Harpole, I would guess he would be there, I would guess Dan Flood would be there, etc., is it's domestic spying. And you have to have the people doing the domestic spying with the contract meeting with the people who are at Fort Huachuca at some point. If Fort Huachuca is consuming the information, if Fort Huachuca is gaining and consuming the information, you want to do enough passes over the crowd that you get all the phones. First pass, you may only get 40% of the phones. Second pass, you get 50, 60%. You want to keep circling until you get 100% of the phones, or at least 95% of the phones. So Brian Harpole has going to have to talk about that. Dan Flood's going to have to talk about that. How many times we circle? It's just a simple operational planning as if you were planning an air show, right? It, it makes total sense that Harpole would be there the day before. I know Erica isn't there on the ETH. I know she has a witness, an eyewitness for the ETH. Candace told me when they went, when she flew this same plane, the same USD Technologies plane and flew it to Texas, Tennessee, she told me Erica had a, and she told me what the alibi was, and it's off the record, and I can't tell you what it is, but Erica's not there on the ETH. She has an eyewitness. And I'm talking about somebody who was within five feet of her for a length of time.

Um, Mitch McConnell could call balls and strikes in the war of domestic terrorist organizations. Yeah. Uh, you saw domestic terrorist organizations, DTOs, that Donald Trump signed, uh, General Gallop or Gouad, or however Gouio, however you say his name, the four-star general that testified yesterday basically said, if any, if the president deems anybody a DTO, we can attack him, right? Baron made a big, you know, uh, motion of guys crossing the Delaware. I've been there. One of the, my customers was one of the guys in the boat actually when they reenact that every year, Washington crossing the Delaware, and was saying, "Do you realize that someday we're going to be able to use the army against the people of the United States?" And, you know, "Should I keep rowing the boat, or should we turn around?" was what the Baron was acting out. Somebody mentioned the Whiskey Rebellion. I said, "Well, it did." I was, I was going to dial into Baron's podcast. I was going to say, "What do you mean someday we'll use the army against the people of the United States?" Washington himself, the first thing he did was use the army against the people of the United States in the Whiskey Rebellion because people didn't want to pay his tax, uh, west of the Alleghenies on his whiskey. So, and it was interesting, Baron didn't mention that last night, but anyway, somebody in Baron's audience did mention it. But we've come full circle. I even went to Washington, Pennsylvania. It's named after George Washington. I went to Washington, Pennsylvania, where the Whiskey Rebellion was, was beat down, and did a spot there on this topic. So again, it's in the tradition of George Washington at Washington, Pennsylvania, that established the US Army being used against the people of the United States.

Why does the military have so much, uh, to do with TPSA? Because you, for a covert program, you can't say, you can't have a bunch of military guys in military fatigues running the ISR collection program. They can't be taking the money. You can't have, you know, uh, you can't have Aman and Schillman writing checks to guys in fatigues. It has to look like a civilian program. It has to look like a speaking program. It has to look like an outreach program to get voters. It has to look like, uh, it's a political organization, right? In order to do the collection.

Uh, Mitch created a YouTube account. On, uh, it has only three subscribers. Well, there you go. Uh, dysfunctional thumbs, Mitch. Um, maybe he had a covert mission and, and he got tortured and they, you know, hammered his thumbs. Maybe that's what happened. That's nasty. Um, maybe it was Central America. Maybe, you know, there's some kind of covert history that we don't know. That could be, too. I'm not ruling that out. Uh, hitting the thumbs with hammers is a, is a well-known torture thing, and it would explain, you know, the cover story of his wife hitting his thumbs with a hammer, would explain, uh, maybe a cover for torture. So, I'm not ruling that out. I'm not saying Mitch, but his service record only shows one year. Now, if he was CIA, Jeff Prather, I talked to Jeff Prather at the border, not far from Huachuca, and he did all kinds of drops for DEA behind enemy lines and was going after the drug cartels. And maybe they caught him. Maybe the drug cartels did catch him down there. And maybe they did torture him and hit his, hit his thumbs with hammers. And, and, and that's the part he can't tell us because [snorts] it's covert and it's CIA. So, it's still ISR when he comes back in the United States. I mean, I went to Pasco for six days, right? I know what he's doing there. He's doing ISR around the nuclear power plant and around the nuclear bomb factory, right? I know that's what he was doing in Bremerton at the submarine bullpen. I just know it, right? That's what he's doing. So, it he might have had some kind of covert thing where he was, you know, trying to fight against the drug program, or maybe he was involved in the drugs. Having $450,000 in the bank account certainly doesn't sound like he was working on a government job. Um, and, and, and got tortured. To me, that's the most logical thing. The way you look at the two thumbs, symmetrical injuries, and as a torture methodology, to me, it's that, to me seems the like the most likely thing that happened with the cartels.

Uh, good morning. I was wondering if FT, uh, Fort Huachuca, international SCOP training? Yes, they do. Fort Huachuca does, um, SCOP training. Uh, it's called military industrial, military intelligence training, MIT. There's a three-month course and a six-month course specifically to, um, penetrate religious organizations and take over large evangelical, uh, organizations. Especially, they love the televangelists. We talked about Joel Osteen, laundering money for Ukrainian snipers with with crooks. Uh, they love that type of mega-church because it has a worldwide reach. Has a worldwide reach.

Uh, okay. Thank you for reposting. Certain channels are promoted because they're driving the narrative. I agree. I'm on target. Yeah, I, I think that's just the other thing here is their signal reduction for me, uh, right now because, you know, they don't want the gumshoe story. They want everybody to put all their bets on Erica being in the lobby by the fluffy omelets and by the seasonal fruit, uh, on the ETH when I know there's an alibi, right? They want to be an all-or-nothing proposition. And that's the last thing we should do. We don't have to put any bets on that. Put all the bets on Doge, and you know you're going to win. You know, you know you're going to win. Put the bets on Doge for TPUSA. Put the bets on Doge for for Huachuca, for for Trump. Secretary Hansel should come back out with Pete Hexth and say, "Guys, one, one unicomber is not going to stop this." You know, Mitch basically blew up a meeting where they were going to talk about Doge at Fort Huachuca, um, with one unicomber. We're not going to have one unicomber stop this thing now. We're going to go forward with this Doge audit.

Focus is largely on Erica because people on exit are exposing her as not [clears throat] being highly educated with a doctorate, but also, uh, being related to the Rostines and Rothschild. Well, it's true. She does have this relationship to the Rostines. Um, the [clears throat] Rostines were the first people that ran drugs in America. Arnold Rostine, the guy who did the Black Sox, and was the guy who was the first gangster running drugs into the United States. Um, uh, he's the guy who fixed the 1919 World Series with the Black Sox. So, but, but if you go into Arnold Rostine, he also was tortured in the last three days of his life as Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano took over the drug business in New York. Right. So again, she's trying to regain the old, you know, panache of having all the the drug money. She, but the Rostines were the Rostines were the ones that were pushed out of the drug business in New York. I just, just read the history where they, he was killed over a three-day period where he was tortured over the last three days of his life. Arnold Rostine.

Uh, 10 accusations, uh, per I am not statement. Um, I don't, um, I don't know, I don't know what you mean. I, I'm not trying to accuse Mitch of anything, right? I'm just saying what his, what the metadata says. I'm just saying what I found on the ground and, and take it for what it, no. What's what's interesting is you can tell just the metadata of no one going to Pasco. No one going to Pasco. No one going to, you know, Nick Shirley gets the citizen journalist of the war, uh, award by going there and filming things. That's supposed to be the new, the thing that's been discovered for citizen journalism where the person goes there with the film, the camera, and films it. Where's Nick in Pasco? Why did Nick go to Pasco when, when I was in Pasco for the most important story going on? Right. Nick was in Minnesota, right? If, if that's the new, you know, magic of citizen journalism, we've been doing it for nine years, but if that's the new thing that's been discovered, where was Nick in Pasco? Right. Again, you, when, when I see no one going, uh, Ian not going, Candace can't go, she's got the kids, but Ryan Mata, Kyle Sarapin, none of these people with investigative backgrounds going to me, it says they don't want to know. They don't want to highlight his background. They don't want to know about the domestic surveillance. They want to talk about this other thing, which is Erica, right? It's all Erica, right? It's not a program. It's all about Erica. Erica's running all this. Erica has her own little private plane. And Erica, along with Brian Harpole, designed in her little crew, designed an assassination team to go kill Charlie. No, they're not. They were just fulfilling, fulfilling their contract. If, if Erica, even if Erica is somehow seen at the, and the alibi falls through, and she's seen at the breakfast bar, I wouldn't think she was there to kill Charlie Kirk. I think she was spent the evening with him and then went early in the morning to do the podcast the next morning. But even if she was there, it's much more likely that she was going there checking on the A-Tech contract to make sure, what, what type of surveillance do you want tomorrow? You know, and she met with everybody and said, "Well, Charlie's coming back. I got to go back home." But I wouldn't think she was trying to murder Charlie. She's not in that end of the business. She doesn't make those decisions. She's got an active surveillance contract. Now, she might have been informed that we're going to take Charlie out. But still, that doesn't mean she's involved in planning the murder. She doesn't have that kind of means and opportunity, right? She doesn't have a team of assassins that MSAD does. We talked about MSAD with Jeff Epstein for nine years. That was all conspiracy theory until the most recent emails came out. Right now, everybody says, "Oh, MSAD Barack." Well, okay. You know, it took nine years, so this might take nine years. I don't know. Uh, but it is what it is. Erica is not making these determinations, right? She's fulfilling on her contract. She's going and visiting a customer on behalf of her mother. Mother's sick. She can't go. So Erica goes. If, if she doesn't, turn, turn up at the Candlewood, but I wouldn't say she's trying to organize the murder of her husband. That's a, that's a bridge too far with me. Um, she's checking on her contract is much more likely.

Uh, Mitch Hammer Thumbs. Yeah, it's better than Edward Scissorhands. It's Mitch Hammer Thumbs. Although if it turns out that he got those injuries, you know, because he was, it's also a cartel if the cartel thinks that you blew them up, you know, you set up a, or or were a snitch. Mitch the snitch. Um, there was a cartel murder, by the way, um, that I went and researched, and it was in the Baja Peninsula, and they invited one of the drug kingpins to a birthday party, and the, um, assassin dressed up as a clown. I'm not saying Mitch dressed up as a clown, but they, um, the assassin dressed up as a clown for the kid's birthday party and killed the drug kingpin. So, uh, and that really caused, uh, El Chapo, uh, that was Mazatlán? I can't remember where that the clown murder was, but I thought that was pretty nasty to, to invite somebody to their kid's birthday party and kill them in front of their kid. Uh, but do you think these guys wouldn't use a hammer to try to find out who did that? If, if Mitch was a trading partner with these guys, do you don't think they would get the hammer out and have hammer time to get the truth out of Mitch?

So, uh, let's see. I wonder if Mitch, uh, has ever met Trevor Fitzgibbon. I wonder if Andrew Kvet has ever met Trevor Fitzgibbon. Trevor Fitzgibbon was the PR rep for Snowden. He was the PR rep for, uh, Julian Assange. He was the PR rep for, uh, Bradley Manning. That's pretty, um, pretty odd.

Uh, this is not sardonic. Okay. Um, say, say a little bit more directly what you mean. Um, don't, don't, don't speak in coded messages. Um, because it's hard when I'm talking about something over here and then I'm going to the messages and then, you know, this is sort of like listening to, um, what's her name? Um, Alanis Morissette. Isn't it ironic? Don't you think? You know, it's like, well, what is ironic, and don't I think? And, you know, be more specific, I guess. Um, you know, don't do the Alanis Morissette, isn't it ironic, don't you think? And then just that's the end of your sentence.

Um, these death jockeys are probably disillusioned. Um, it's part of a program, you know, it doesn't really matter what they think. Sort of like being a part of, uh, the army. You don't like your bunk because it's not comfortable. You don't like the fact that the reveille gets blown at six o'clock. Um, you don't like the hard, you know, the duty of, of swabbing the barracks. Doesn't matter really. Really, the, what the individuals think in the program really doesn't matter, right? Once you get in the program.

Um, um, are these two events going to cause a T-bone crash? I, I don't think so. I think people when they realize that, wait a minute, Erica's mother has a contract with Fort Huachuca, um, her, um, her sending her daughter down, Erica down in her place because she's sick makes total sense. Going down before an event that they're going to do surveillance on to do planning makes total sense. Why is that unusual? Right? They probably, she probably went to Fort Huachuca the day before every Charlie event. That's probably the standard operating procedure. But you're, you're they're taking it out of context and just taking this one time she went to the Candlewood and saying it's the assassination planning. She probably went to the Candlewood or her mother for A-Tech before every event and every JD Vance event and every Trump event. That's what you do when you're a contractor. You want to make sure your customer's happy. You sit down with them. Um, and to me, it looks like Dan Flood's in that business. And it looks like Harpole's in that business. So that they, them being there would make sense, too. If Harpole got together with the new Secretary of Defense and he was being called in to look into A-Tech invoices. Now, that, that's a meeting you have to blow up. That's a meeting you have to unibomb. That's a meeting you have to backpack bomb. And that's what Mitch did. I'm not doubting Mitch was there to blow up that meeting.

Uh, agree that Erica Kirk not being there. It, it, um, I love Mitch for his metadata. It just fills in everything with Fort Huachuca and it fills in everything we've been talking about the last nine years and how ISR analysis is done. How you farm it out to people who are in nuclear situations so that they can do the training that they need to do at ISR. You can keep going with your professional credentials. Everything is, you can, you can keep going on your parallel track and then do, uh, political surveillance whenever the the bosses say, "Let's do a contract."

I think you got the hammer thumbs from the guys who hit people's thumbs with hammers. Wives don't go for the, you know, thumbs. U, drug dealers do because they know that you like your thumbs and they know when you're about ready to have your thumb hit. They used to, I hate to say this, but, you know, it used to have a sledgehammer where they hit your hands. You know, that's another torture thing. Um, that's even worse. But hammer thumb is kind of a scaled down with a sledgehammer, but Wagner Group used to use their Russian soldiers used to use sledgehammers on the hands. Um, so this to me looks a lot more like a drug king, uh, cartel trying to get information out of them.

Uh, oh, uh, what I meant was, um, do charges would follow broken thumbs, dogs, etc.? Yeah, you would have an arrest. You would have an arrest if there was somebody who was, I think when he called dispatch, he's talking.