You Won’t BELIEVE Who’s Trying To “DEBUNK” Candace Owens

So I look there to see if the bars are on. Okay. I want to see the audio bars. You understand? So I have to go and then I know that it's working. And then I say, "Let's get into it." You understand? I'm just letting you into the creative process. And sometimes, I'm going to be honest, that was me being very mature about what I usually do. SOMETIMES I'M LIKE LIKE IT'S ridiculous because I know it makes my wife laugh.

Anyways guys, let's get into it. Let's get into it. A lot of people are questioning Mitch. Mitch who was on Candace's podcast. Everybody knows about the interview. He said that he saw Erica Kirk, Brian Harpole, you know, uh he's 95 to 99% sure he saw those eyes. He was soon as you see those eyes, you know, you're not going to mistake those eyes. Saw her in a ponytail. You guys know the whole thing. Well, a lot of people are questioning this. Okay.

So, we're going to go through what Candace had to say about people who were skeptical and just about the overall situation because there's been some a little bit of developments. You know, I'm I'm surprised that this rep Mark um not sure if he's a senator or congressman, but I'm surprised that he actually got back to Candace and then people just promptly like, you know, you can't just do the regular politician thing anymore and just make things up and think, especially on X. It's like he didn't realize where he was. He's on X. He's saying a thing. People are like, "Oh, I'm just going to look into what you're saying right now." So, they figured him out pretty quick. You'll see that in a second.

But then also, I'm going to show you the people who've been skeptical about Mitch and what they have to say. And then what the response to that has been from the public and also from Candace. And one of the people who is rather skeptical of Mitch actually is someone that a lot of you have told me, I need to watch his work. I need to look at his videos. A lot of you have been messaging. You'll find out who that is when we get to that point. We're going to start off with Candace, of course, and then we'll get into the rest.

>> Well, he's fearful of something about Erica Kirk. He just keeps calling out Erica Kirk on stage, demanding allegiance to Erica Kirk. Who are you actually? Who are you? Why are you in this conversation? Why were you so quick to say that you would pick up his bloody mic and carry on? And didn't you just like fire half of your force that was involved in Daily Wire Kids only to then drop a million dollars on Charlie's show again, weasling your way into the chair when you weren't invited to go on there, but Matt Walsh was cuz that's what you do. Wheel and deal behind the scenes to make people think that you're liked. It's embarrassing really. Ben, it's truly honestly embarrassing. Why are you not embarrassed to be alive? I don't understand it. Anyways, so his general demeanor is is starting to make

>> Why aren't you embarrassed to be alive? and then just goes anyway, you know, just laying into Ben Shapiro. And let me tell you something real quick before we go on. More people at Amfest were laying into Ben Shapiro when they hit the stage. People are really waking up to what that guy is, what he represents. Hit the like button, hit the notification button, and please hit that subscribe button if you haven't already. Let's get back to the episode.

>> Make me think that there's something there, right? The the Fort Wuka thing. It's definitively compelling. I would say I am learning also that Fort Wuka has ties to Liberty University and that you can attend classes there and achieve your degree at Liberty University. Still working to verify that Mark uh Amade, we're going to get to that actually that congressman in a second. Amade has come out and really kind of not answered where he was on the morning of the 9th. And as I said, I don't know if we can rely entirely um uh on the memory of one person who believes that he saw these individuals. But what I can say is that we verified 10,000% that he was where he said he was that the there was a meeting. Ree says that there was a meeting. We verified that Blake Nef sorry not Blake Nef pardon me, Captain Nef was there. The one that he says was nice, but he got questioned for a very long time and they wanted to hold him for 24 hours. So everything else that people are trying to dig up about Mitch, you can just ignore. That is a distraction, right? The only way that you can help debunk anything that he has said is to say, "Oh, actually, you know, I was the person that was there. It wasn't this congressman. It was me." Uh or I was staying at the Candlewood in in Swedes and I saw this couple or you know, these two individuals in the hotel as well and it was actually somebody else. It was my cousin. We are looking only for somebody to debunk those two aspects. Okay, because he was where he says he was and everything else we have verified. Ignore the noise and stay focused on that note.

>> So, it's very interesting because what she's talking about a lot of people are just focused on like character. I wouldn't say, you know, they're just focused on his character. That's what I'll say. Uh, they're pointing out things that may have been messy in a marriage, maybe former marriage, whatever the relationship is. and they're just kind of looking at him as a guy and they're presenting that like it's a debunk. It's it's it's odd. I'm not really sure why. And you know, not and again, not not uh not position not attacking anybody when I say this, but it seems to be people who are looking for the truth, but then all of a sudden when it came to this particular instance, all of a sudden they're coming out of the woodwork. Now, the one bigger person that I told you about that you guys keep uh messaging me about, he is not doing character uh you know, he's not focusing on character or reputation or anything. He's just producing an alibi for Erica Kirk, but the other people are they're they're focusing on the character of the man. I don't know if that's really valuable.

Another thing that Candace said here is uh how she talked about Ben Shapiro and Erica Kirk. I know it's like not slightly slightly off topic maybe, but it seems like it seems like Ben defends everything that is Philadelphia, right? And then he defends Erica Kirk the same way. I don't think and we've seen the messages of Charlie talking badly about Ben Shapiro. We've seen Charlie and Ben Shapiro interact. Charlie was respectful to Ben Shapiro, especially in the public, but privately he said to Candace, he's not respected by people who are in the movement, right? People of the movement. He's not he's not really respected by those people. And you wouldn't say that if you really respected somebody privately, you know what I mean? You wouldn't say that to your friend, but he was talking to Candace, so he's like, I can talk to her on a level. So, I don't think Ben Shapiro has this bleeding heart for Erica Kirk. I don't think that's it. I think there's something else. I honestly I think he might, and people were saying this before and I didn't believe it. He might try to not take over Turning Point, but couple cuz Daily Wire is a dying brand. Turning Point is a thriving brand. Turning Point is linked to Philadelphia. Daily Wire is of course linked to Philadelphia. So, there might be a coupling that he's trying to accomplish here. That's that's my thought process on the whole thing. Anyway, let's keep moving on. This is where she talks about the senator a little bit. And uh yeah, I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to show you some stuff about this senator and then give my take on if I think his alibi actually works.

>> We told you obviously that he thought that he saw the congressman from Vegas, Mark Amade. And I will say regarding the call sign in Vegas, we keep telling you that call sign at various times says SAM702 or RCH702. Well, that's Vegas. 702 is Vegas. Shocking just about area codes. Obviously 702 is Vegas, so that could just be obviously a coincidence, but it becomes compelling. Well, Mark Amade apparently received a ton of phone calls from his constituents who wanted to know where he was, like where were you actually on the morning of the 9th. I want to remind you guys the meeting was concluding at 7:30. We verified his call logs. We verified everything. The meeting was concluding around 7:30 a.m. in the morning on the 9th on Fort Wuka at at Fort Wuka. So, it is entirely possible and as flight routes show for planes that did maybe perhaps weren't in attendance at this meeting, you can get back to DC. You just can obviously in that time frame. Well, Mark Amade tweeted this. He tweeted, "For those of you information consumers who are stuck in practices of the old days, who prefer facts to dreams and falsehoods, take comfort knowing that in public service, there is this thing called public record. The public record on se September 8th indicates that I was returning to Washington DC from my district and voting on the floor of the House of Representatives. And on September 9th in a 12-hour barkup in the House Appropriations Committee, of which I am a member, as well as voting on the House floor. Should you prefer video to the words of a member of the Federal Legislature, please feel free to view the House Appropriations Committee's recording of set event on that date. To quote Ronald Reagan, facts are stubborn things. Merry Christmas.

So, it's like, whoa, serving up. I was for 12 hours locked into this meeting. And so, there I am. There's my alibi. Well, very quickly the internet.

>> So, she's about to say very quickly the interneted. And I just want to point out the attack that he decided to go with right away. You know, I don't know if you guys caught that dreams and falsehoods. That's not just uh that's him going after Candace for saying that she had a dream, right? I find it very interesting that that's what he would go to. Now, Candace didn't have it at the time, or maybe they just didn't show it because uh they had the uh they had the tweet doctorred up, but very quickly, and for those of you who don't know how X works, when you make something up or when something needs more context, somebody community notes it. So, it actually got a community note right away. Uh, it said, "Rep. Amd, is that his name? I'll just say Rep. Mark was not recorded voting on early roll calls including road call number one uh in September 9th. So he says, "Hey, take a look at the video." And then somebody, you know, a bunch of people on X are like, "Hey, looked at the video. You're not in the video, buddy." And and here's the thing. Here's the thing. He's a regular politician. He knows he's not in the video. He knows. He knows he can just write a thing. This is how pol politics has always worked. They can look at you and say whatever they want. That's it. They they say a certain thing and they can just be like, "No, I never said that actually." And that's it. And that's how it's always worked. But now you're on X. You're not walking from from one place to another and some reporter is trying to get you to answer one question. No, no, no, no. Now you're on X. So, as soon as you write something, there's dozens, sometimes hundreds, thousands of people who are just like, "Hey, hey, hey, can you answer this?" Or they don't even wait for you to answer it. They just pick apart what you said.

Now, Candace, she did not uh show this in the clip. She uh she actually says, "Hi, Mark. Any way you can link the video to your September 8th vote? Happy to update the record. Also, can you confirm what time you began in-person voting on the 9th? Thank you." So, that's what Candace had to say. Um, and Candace's good friend Mel, she said, "Very simple, a very simple, I was not in Arizona on September 8th or 9th would surmise. This is a very, very wordy nondenial. Especially weird that you kicked it off with insult." Yes, exactly. Mel sees it. considering you have a you you have many goodfaith constituents who simply wanted an answer. Exactly. Exactly. And then and Candace actually does show this guy and I love that Candace actually put this guy on on screen because I've been following this guy for a minute. This guy's been rising up and rising up and uh he actually showed this. So this was the the roll calls and that's roll call number one. Right. He's not there. Roll call number two, he's just looking for the names. He's not there. Roll call number three, he's actually there. Right. So, he put that video together very well. Again, if you're on X, this guy is a great follow. Great follow. I mean, this guy was talking to Tyler Robinson's grandmother. He's the one that broke that story. he was going to UVU and allowing people to just direct him to where he should go because they just wanted to see certain things. He's always doing uh spaces on here. Uh he's just he's a great great follow. Very He's one of the people that does not get mentioned enough and I don't because I don't know how to pronounce that name. What is that? Den Denisen. Denisen. Diligent. I'm just going to call you Diligent D. Go and follow Diligent D, everybody. Uh, I tried when I respect somebody, I try to pronounce their name properly. I think the guy's great. But, uh, yeah, that's that's what a Candace was about to show here. Uh, back

>> and realize that actually he missed two of the roll calls that happened in the morning and that he was present in the evening or late afternoon. We are still working to verify that. I replied to that feed, but I can tell you what this person posted and showed. Diligent Dennis on X wrote exposed. Rep. Mark Amadeay tries and fails to give a solid alibi for the alleged September 9th meeting with Charlie Kirk security Brian Harpole. The rep claims to have been traveling to DC from his district on September 8th, then in a committee meeting for 12 hours all day on the 9th. However, he was not present for roll call until the third meeting in midafter afternoon on the 9th in DC. This means he could have spent the night in Arizona on September 8th, attended the morning meeting on the 9th, and caught a military flight 3 to four hours away from the base to make it in time for the third roll call in DC. I can't believe he tried to act like you were there all day. Cooked. Cooked.

>> Here's the thing with that. I think, and again, this is biased because of what I think of just like everyday politicians, that's what they do. They know that they've done something and they'll just go, "Well, you could look at this and see." And they'll know most people won't look and they they'll just be like, "Yeah, you know, they'll just they'll say things with the assumption." And then when somebody actually picks it apart, they just go silent. And that's what's going to happen with this guy. He's not going to get in contact with Candace. He's not going to talk to diligent Dennisen. Thank you, Candace. He's not going to do any of that. He's just going to go silent. That's his response. I didn't do anything wrong. And that's it. He's just He's not going to come forward and be like, "Okay, you caught me." What pol what politician has ever done that? Oh man. Well, I tried to get over on you guys, you know, but you caught me. How about that? Okay. Sorry. Sorry. When's the last time you heard that from a politician? Sorry, guys. Doesn't happen, right?

Anyway, let's move on here. We're going to more of Mitch being verified. I just wanted to play what Candace Owens had to say about that. Oh, this one's actually going to be about Brian Harpole. It's nuts that she reached out to Brian Harpole. I have an opinion on this. And I'm not picking on Gary from Paramount Tactical. I'm not picking on him. I'm always respectful to him. He's not really respectful to me. All good. No problem. Uh but yeah, let's play this.

>> Did miss two of the roll calls. Now, there might be a reason. Again, we are looking for followup. And the our goal here is if he has an alibi and he was there on the floor for 12 hours, we would be obviously happy to say that. Like I said, we can confirm confirm every aspect of Mitch's story, but we can't confirm his memory and whether or not he is good with facial recognition. But I do find it to be compelling for a few reasons. Uh, one is that I was actually given the travel logs for Brian Harpole and it is entirely possible that Brian Harpole could have made it for that meeting. I can tell you that definitively Brian Harpole could have made it to that base uh for that early morning meeting. There is no question. And obviously in the interest of making sure that I'm not misrepresenting him, I have now reached out to Brian Harpole twice. I have his number because he was Charlie security and I went on tour with Charlie for years. Messaged him. I know that he received it uh according to iMessage. I messaged him again. I messaged him just so we're clear before uh we went live yesterday and I messaged him again since and I asked him, "Hey, look, we're only in the interest in telling the truth. If you were somewhere that morning, let us know and we'll clarify that." You would think that he would jump at at opportunity because it why would you want to have people even thinking or or uh surmising that you could have been at this meeting when you can easily debunk it. We got crickets crickets from him. Again, it could turn out that it was a Brian Harpole lookalike. It is totally plausible that he just mistook someone's identity and I am totally open to that and just looking for more information. There was one person who we are vetting who

>> So just to just to touch on that and uh I'm on my phone here because I'm trying to see like what's what connections the military does Brian Harpole have allegedly connected to the US military has a professional background works with military and law enforcement entities um has served as a private security contractor and trainer for non-governmental So that's how he's connected to Gary from Paramount. That's how And again, I'm not picking on Gary. I'm I'm in no position to pick on Gary. You know what I mean? But that's how he knows. This is not even what I was looking for. That's how that's how they're connected. I could tell by the way this guy has been moving and how he shifted. And then Brian Harpole mentions him on the Shawn Ryan podcast and then the next thing you know he's doing his podcast and then the next thing you know Gary's on the Charlie Kirk show. That's the connection. Okay. Okay. Because Gary's a great uh you know does uh tactical training. He's he's amazing at it. Right. Uh high highly highly highly trained. again. I always try to respect him. He doesn't really respect me. All good, you know. Uh says that he says that I make sing Candice videos. I never look at him and say you make sing Turning Point videos. I never say that to him. Why would I? I don't say you're snuggling up to turning point because you so badly want to be on that stage that you're punching the air somewhere because you couldn't be at Amfest. I don't say that kind of stuff to him and I never would. So, you know, he insults me. I don't insult him. Great guy, by the way. Um, that's how they're connected. But that's not even what I wanted to bring up. I just wanted to see if uh if Brian had a background. He also has worked in wargaming subject matter expert with Marine Corp. Wow. That's exactly what Blake did. Although he was removed from the college's list of experts following the controversy over past online. Are they talking about Blake? Nah. Yeah. AI is getting it wrong. They're they have to be talking about Blake. Unless Unless Brian also has that type of past, that would be that would be just too much. Then you then you really got to question who is who is Turning Point hiring. This is wild. But um okay. Yeah, just wanted to see that.

Now the thing about it is when it comes to Brian Harpole not getting back to Candace, you really have to think about this. He is itching to tell his story to Shawn Ryan. Agency contractor, past military guy, brotherhood connection. He's itching to tell his story to Shawn Ryan. Shawn Ryan gives him not even a softball. Shawn Ryan gives him a pillow in a blanket type of interview. This is not even softball. This is This is like tucking him into bed type of interview. getting him a warm glass of milk, reading him a bedtime story type interview, right? And they do that and next thing you know, he's on Gary uh Paramount Tactical. I've already talked about what I think their connection is. Don't don't have that verified, but I mean it makes sense to me. I'm connecting dots here. And then when Candace messages him, the biggest voice to get your truth out, the biggest voice to clear your name, cuz that's all he wanted to do in those interviews. All of a sudden, radio silence. It's weird. It's weird. Now, I have to, you know, you can't think both things at the same time. I don't think, well, I was going to say I don't think he's a liar. I don't know. I don't know. Why not just lie to Candace? Why not just be like, "Hey, um, yeah, no, I wasn't there." Nope. Never accompanied Erica anywhere like that. Never been in a lobby with her. Never. No. Nothing. You could. I don't know how that would work out. But it's just very interesting that as soon as somebody reaches out, because all he's wanted to do is clear his name. As soon as somebody reaches out, all of a sudden it's like, "Nah, I'm not going to answer this." It shows, and I bring that up because it shows that he was on those two shows for a reason. It wasn't because those were the best guys to be on their shows. Wasn't because of that. It's because those guys would allow him to push a certain narrative, right? That's why there's only That's why you see some people always go on MSNBC. Some people only go on Fox, right? It's because they know. They're like, "Okay, it's safe here." Hey, what are the questions going to be? Hey, can we talk about this? He doesn't have that relationship with Candace. So, he goes silent on her. Makes sense to me.

Anyway, let me just play a little bit more of this. How much more of this clip is there? Just a little bit.

>> Who believes that they have evidence that the people that Mitch saw were in fact on that base on that date? We will keep you guys obviously posted on that. Now, something else interesting happened. I have been sending, just so you know, I when I send Mitch stuff that's happening and I I'm trying to guess who was there or who wasn't there. I don't give him the context when I send him pictures. So, when he first described the congressman, described the person's height and, you know, glasses, this or that. I had sent a few congressman. He was like, "No, no, no, no." And then we landed upon the Las Vegas congressman. We did not give him the name. I didn't know his name, to be honest with you. And he went, "That's the guy." So, it was interesting. And of course, this was before we discovered the planes and the route to Las Vegas. So that was compelling yesterday and genuinely because I was sitting down having a discussion.

>> All right, I'm going to move on to the next one, but I will talk about that really quick because apparently Erica's ex-boyfriend was there. So Mitch verifies that Erica's ex-boyfriend was there. What? Come on. Come on. Are you serious? And then Candace is just looking at us like this. What? Are you serious? Man, that guy's odd. That guy's odd. Have you seen the pictures circulating with this guy? I'm not Listen, it's just odd. He's He's He's odd. And um I have to look into that more and see what happens. I think he was speaking at the tourn I think he I think he might have taken the stage in Amfest. And also again going back to Ben Shapiro, right, and his uh wanting to defend Erica Kirk, then you find out this Kabitt Kitt Phillips guy, he dated her. He used to work for the Daily Wire. So like there's another connection there with uh with Erica and Ben Shapiro. Not not really a connection, but like you know, same circles kind of thing, you know? Philadelphia is at the root of that. You know, if we're making a a vin diagram, there's a bunch of circles. The the one circle that's connecting all of them is Philadelphia, right? Interesting. Anyway, let's move on. Another clip talking about how verified Mitch is.

>> Uh, which we are putting the final touches on because I don't want there to be even one typo or mistake on this that we're going to put up on our website. It leads you to is

>> Philadelphia.

>> It just does. Okay, there's no question that's why they were panicking about the Egyptian planes. Fort Wuka is involved in lawsuits and sworn affidavit regarding 11 people who asserted that the prepping for that took place. The vibes are vibing here at Fort Wuka. The more of what I learned about Fort Wuka and that's why we open you guys to this investigation to send us tips and I would like to focus you on what we would like to learn. If you have concrete evidence of what occurred at Fort Wuka on the early morning of the 9th, we want to hear from you. We do not want an email about what Mitch did in 1993 and why you don't think he's a good person because he had a divorce with his wife. We just don't need that. We do not want an email saying I'm in the military and it would be unusual for them to allow him to book the hotel. We've already confirmed all of it. He has a literal video of him that's 18 minutes long asking for directions to get to where he's going. We can see in the background where he is. is we don't want you to waste your time on that. We have verified everything we could verify about the story. We cannot verify the people and um yeah, I just I just sense that there's there's something there because Ben is coming undone and he only comes undone about one topic and that is Israel. So, uh, we will.

>> So, really kind of odd that he would have an 18minute video of him asking for directions unless he thought something could happen to him and that was kind of like, you know, a safety measure kind of thing. A little weird. The only weird thing, now let's get into the actual people who were trying to dispute Mitch. I just wanted you to hear everything Candace had to say in regards to being verified. Mitch being verified by her. Um, because that is the speculation going on on X. Now, the only weirdness that popped up for me is that when I was searching for Harry, it kept telling me about Harry being one guy and Mitch being another guy. And I was like, is this something? Like, what is this? Like, why does this keep happening? And it says like, based on information retrieved, Mitch and Harry Meyers are not the same person. They're two separate individuals. you know, if he's in witness protection, you know, one having been to, you know, the fort, blah, blah, blah. You know, just talking about everything Candace was talking about just now. Um, you know, Harry being this guy who's a 35 year veteran whistleblower claims accidentally uh stumbled onto this meeting and then they say Mitch Mitch is just a guy who got interviewed by Candace Owens. It's it's very and saw uh Brian Harpole and Erica Kirk and you know Congressman Mark and you know Captain Nef, you know, it's just uh yeah, I just found it really weird. But I guess if you're in witness protection, that's what they're supposed to do. They're not supposed to make it so people know you're one and the same. They're supposed to make it so who you were and who you are are two completely different people. So that's the only weirdness I stumbled on to. And I honestly chalk that up to AI just just making that mistake. It's very easy to make that mistake, especially when that's the intended outcome by the people who put together those identities. Uh now we move on. This was one of the main people who was questioning Mitch, right? And then this guy saying, "Based on everything I'm seeing, it looks like Mitch was a total fraud on Candace's show last night. likely straight up lied about who he saw at Fort, how do you say that again? Hahookah. Auka Wuka. Anyway, I found this so odd. This guy really uh has been riding for Candace uh rides for truth. But to right away be like he he was a total fraud and he just likely straight up lied to Candace. Like why? And then when you actually look into what he's talking about, it's just about his character. That's it. And then there is the aspect of, you know, I could uh I could um you know what I will do? I will go to another episode of Candice and actually be too much work to find Mitch. I have a picture of Mitch somewhere. Let's just see. Let's just see. Let me pull up a picture because they say that's the same guy and it makes sense. Mitch Harry Meyers. It It does look like the same guy, but it also kind of doesn't look like the same guy. Oh, wow. Nothing's coming up. That's weird. Let me just put Mitch. Just Mitch. Let's see what pops up here. No, nothing pops up there. They're showing this guy and this guy, right? And it does look like the same guy, but at the same time, they verified finding Mitch. That was the weird thing. These people who are looking into Mitch are finding Mitch and what's going on with Mitch. But the guy's actual name is Harry apparently. And there's been back and forth about that whether his name was actually Mitch and the code name or other identity was Harry or vice versa. I'm pretty sure that his actual name is Mitch and who you would be looking for or sorry his act this gets so confusing. His actual name was Harry and who you would be looking for is Mitch. I said that wrong again. His real name is Mitch. I'm so confused. Wow. Wow. How confused am I? Okay. The real guy is The real guy is Harry. Code name Mitch. And everybody is finding stuff under the guy's code name. Now, that doesn't really make sense to me. Now, let's go on to uh Sorry, I had to sound it out, guys. I really had to sound it out just now. people uh who are watching all this unfold, they're like, "I has metadata from pics of him being at the base. How does that work?" Right? And none of this stuff, this guy, this guy Evan, um again, I I I don't know this guy. I have no problem with this guy, but he usually answers people. When people started coming through and being like, "Well, how does this work?" Like, he just had no answer. It was odd. It was odd. He's not usually like that. He usually stays in his comments. Somebody said, "Don't you think it's irresponsible with Candace not to vet people first, especially when it can cause real damage to reputations like people like Erica?" And the thing about it is that's why I made sure to play that for you first. Candace clearly did vet the guy. All all the surroundings of him were vetted. This person actually says it pretty well. Hear me out. Candace saw the metadata, reservation records, and flight info. This was the verification that he was actually there. She saw documentation of lawsuits with the military. So, while he may not be an he or he may be an imperfect person, there's still substance there. He had an NDA until May 2025. That makes sense. That makes sense. And that's the thing to really focus on. This is why I kept saying this before is that people are focused on his character. Now, apparently he had a very messy instance with his wife. Um, she like I don't know, they just had they had a very toxic toxic relationship. And it also kind of makes sense because in the interview he talks about an ex that he had who had the same eyes as Erica and that really stood out to him. And then people started pulling up the fact that he actually did have this very toxic relationship with this lady. probably has the Erica eyes right now. This is the the side by side some people put together. Uh this apparently this is Mitch and this is the other guy that they're kind of pulling up all this info on. Is it the same guy? I don't know. For me, it does not look like the same guy. But I wish they had a picture of this guy with his head up. I wish this guy had his head up like this guy does. Little odd. I don't know. could be the same person, but the nose looks flatter. This guy looks like he has one of those fighter noses that's a little collapsed because maybe you got it broken a time or two. This guy looks like he has a very prominent nose, like it hasn't been busted up a whole bunch. Yeah, I noticed that type of stuff. Um, I'm a rough and tumble guy, you guys have to understand. Never been in a fight in my life. Uh, I'm I'm I'm kind of not telling the truth. I've kind of been in fights.

Anyway, somebody came with the heat. This person, this is what Candace refers to as a mommy sleuth. She's not playing around. She says, "Mark it down. This will not This will not age well. You're posting this late at night while people are sleeping and continuously saying I may be wrong. Will not protect will not protect you. You've put this out there now and you better be prepared for the firestorm that comes with it. This this girl right here, Astro Ashley, she doesn't miss an episode. She does not miss an episode of Candace. Hands down. No doubt in my mind. And this is coming from someone who doesn't trust any social media influencers, including Candace. No way. This This girl has merch. She has one of those cups. Those big cups that Candace sells. She for sure has one of those cups. You do not You do also do not pass the smell test. Going with my gut on this one. Woman's intuition, man. Can't play around with woman's intuition. It's a real thing. I know guys get jealous of it sometimes. It's a real thing. People do not trust any social media influencers right now. We do not know who is being paid by who. Uh this don't trust me either. Oh, she's saying don't trust me either. Everyone needs to start leaning on their own intuition. Do not be swayed. Very true. Very true. I And you know what? I agree with her. The smell test didn't just seeing this line right away and all he has is one article. He read one article and he's like, "This guy's a total fraud and lied to Candace." Like, how did you even come to that? Believe me, I've I've gone to this article. There's nothing in there that would make you think that this guy lied to Candace. It's not like he has It's not like you're going to see this and there's this history of lying and making things up and etc, etc. There's really not.

So, let's keep going. Public response here. Somebody said, "I don't know how honest or sketchy the guy is, but the plane records of 99-0404 actually back up his story pretty well. According to Baron Coleman, Baron did a whole little breakdown, but Candice steps in and she says, "This ain't it. He was factually there. He factually stayed at the hotel. He said he did. He factually stumbled upon the meeting in the exact building at the exact time he said. We confirmed Captain Nef was also there. Was also factually there with the exact brigade he mentioned. So, what are you disproving here? try to debunk the facts of what he said and what happened on September 8th and September 9th. That's true. Again, what is what is this person trying to do here? Or focus on trying to confirm the schedule for Brian Harpole, which I am doing. All that is left to confirm is who was factually at that meeting. Everything else he contributed was fully factual. You know, this is odd from a lady that never actually tells the truth. You know, it's weird. It's weird. It's weird people have this narrative. She never tells the truth. She's like so concentrated on like things being factual and really vetting things, but everybody's always like she just makes up stuff out of thin air. Isn't that interesting?

Now, let's Oh, we're at 40 minutes already. Oh, man. Okay, let's wrap this up. I just wanted to show you this. Uh this is the bigger person who all of you tell me to watch all the time. George Webb George Webb had this to say. He had this to say. He said, "Be careful, Candace. Erica was taking care of her mother on September 8th, 9th, and 10th. I don't think your whistleblower saw Erica." That is a very odd thing for George to say, I think. I think it's a super odd thing for George to say because how does he come to that conclusion? Somebody right away was like, "This pick means nothing." Uh, I post pictures I've taken earlier all the time. And then George. George in the comments just like that other guy used to be. I'm just giving information to Candace. She can do with what she needs. I'm not saying that the picture couldn't be doctorred or changed. Someone else. Nikki. Oh, it's Nikki, friend of the show. What's up, Nikki? Hey, George. Just an FYI, it's le it's less than a three-hour drive from either Scottdale or Phoenix to Serena Vista. and she was seen the evening of the ETH. I'm not saying it could I'm not saying it could be Erica. I'm just saying that she did have an alibi. And see the thing about that is I don't think that is an alibi. I don't think this or this picture here that Erica took with her mom. I don't think that's an alibi. And this is posted to her Instagram here. I'll show you guys that. This is an Instagram post, right? I wanted to make sure you were the first, right? I don't I I don't fully know what that means. Uh but she said, "I wanted to make sure you were the first." And she's with her mother. Right. And then somebody says, "However, Erica Erica Kirk's mother was undergoing medical treatment requiring hospitalization around September 10th, the day Charlie passed. Erica originally planned to accompany her husband at the event UVU, but was stayed in Phoenix to be with her mother." Wow. That is very, very convenient. That is very, very convenient.

Now, the reason that I think what George is saying doesn't check out. It doesn't pass the smell test, the gut check, um, is because millionaire Erica Kirk, and I know it's her mother. Millionaire Erica Kirk had to be the one that was by her taking care of her mother. Three days taking care of her mother who's also a millionaire. And you're telling me there's nobody else that could step in? Nobody at all. Nobody for a few hours couldn't watch her. Who was watching her before the 8th, 9th, and 10th? Erica wasn't there the whole time? She hasn't just been with her mother by her mother's side every single day, right? So, who was there before? And why couldn't they just randomly or or or you know prepared scheduled to be there while Erica goes off to some meeting? Why couldn't that happen? I don't really see that as a solid alibi. Again, this is a look into Erica's family. This is a very well-off family. They they could easily have a team of people look after her mother while she goes somewhere for 6 10 hours and then comes back easily. Easily. So, I I don't really think that's a solid alibi whatsoever, but George did and he wanted to make sure Candace knew that. And again, not calling out George or anything. It's just very odd the way somebody's just like, "Hey, like if you're just if you just want to give the information, because that's what he says when he's responding. If you just want to give the information, why would you say, "I don't think your whistleblower saw Erica." Like, why are you putting that into the air if you're just trying to say, "Hey, Candace, just so you know, this was happening on these days, so you know, just make sure to know that." Why would this guy all of a sudden just be like, "This guy is likely straight. This guy likely straight up lied and he's a fraud based on one article and then based on one picture. That's it." I don't know. Weird. I get it, but I don't get it. You know, that's my new thing. That's my new thing.

Okay. Anyways, guys, that's the whole thing going on with Mitch. So, if you do hear people are a little skeptical of Mitch, it's just because of this article that's going on. And I don't ever click links, but I just did. So, and this is the only thing about this article. It just says Mitch Snow. It just says that he's retired. Uh had a dream of being a Green Beret. Uh drop zone while climbing. uh while rock climbing. He fell 80 feet, broke both his ankles, his back, his knees, etc. And then there's two pictures of the kid. I'm not kidding, guys. That's it, guys. Guys, that's all he took this. He read this. Okay. Mitch continues to work hard to regain mobility, intense therapy. He read this and then said this. Based on everything I'm seeing, it looks like Mitch was a total fraud on Candace Owen's show tonight and likely straight up lied about who he saw at Fourth Hookwa or whatever it's called. Isn't that odd? He saw a paragraph and said, "Ah, this guy's a liar." I don't It's just weird, man. A lot of people have been acting weird about Mitch. A lot of people have. They uh they've been acting weird and they don't really have any proof. And like Candace said, you know, just dismiss the claims. Debunk the claims. Don't worry about him as a guy. So, I just wanted to bring that up. That's really weird, right? to call somebody a straightup fraud based on a paragraph and say that they likely lied about what? What in this? What in this? Let me read it again. Maybe I'm missing the part where it's like he's a he's a pathological liar. Am I missing it? While scouting out a drop zone using his rock climbing training, he fell 80 feet. He broke both his ankles, back, knee, neck, kneecaps, feet, and dislocating his shoulder. Medically discharged and devastated to leave the job that he loved, Mitch continues to work hard to regain mobility. May maybe it's the fact that he broke his knees. Listen, anybody who breaks all these bones is clearly a liar. You've never heard of that? You've never heard of when people break bones and they become pathological liars? You've never heard of that? It's weird. I don't know, man. And and again, I don't even know what this is. This is nothing. It's just one page. I don't know. You know what? Let's go back. Where's Ashley? Where's Ashley at? Ashley, if you're watching the show, shout out to you. That woman's intuition. She called that dude out right away. She's like, "This is not gonna age well." Because she clicked the link, too, and she saw this and she's like, "What the heck is this? This isn't anything." Shout out to Ashley.

Anyways, guys, have a good rest of the weekend. Just wanted to bring that to you. I'm sorry the episode went so long. I will see you tomorrow. I think what I'm going to be doing is trying to release an episode and then also do a live stream. Live stream will be an hour. That's it. And uh the episode will just be like a regular episode. I'm going to try and do that and and and we'll see where everything uh falls. But you will be notified. Keep your notifications on. Okay. Anyways, I'm out of