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A trip to Tim Hortons with Prime Minister Mark Carney! | This Hour Has 22 Minutes

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When Canadians want to get to know each other, they'll often come to Tim Hortons and have a coffee. There's one Canadian I haven't met yet that I've been looking forward to, Prime Minister Mark Carney.

Prime Minister, thanks for doing this. It's great to do it. Tim Hortons order says a lot about a person. It says a lot about their personality. You're a banker, so I'm going to guess more reserved. I'm going to guess a small black, nothing in it, and an old-fashioned plain doughnut.

-Nailed it.

-All right. Two of those, please. [laughs]

Ordinary Canadian just buying a Timmies with his signature on the money. That's for you. Keep the change.

So you've had a pretty average Canadian life-- Harvard goalie, central banker, and then prime minister, standard stuff.

Standard stuff.

Well, you know, I've had-- there's no typical Canadian life. I was born in the Northwest Territories, grew up in Edmonton, and then some of those other things happen. You end up in a lot of crises. When you were governor of the Bank of Canada, we had the big recession. When you were governor of the Bank of England, they had Brexit. You're the prime minister, we have a trade war.

-Is it you?

-Yeah, right. It's the other way around. I come in to fix these things. Yeah, that's-- It's not just luck? It's not just-- no, it's not just luck.

Now, of course, you're famously a central banker. How do bankers budget? Do you want to balance the budget? Or, you know, do you want to maybe save some money by incorporating Canada in the Cayman Islands? How do you plan to-- how do you plan to do it?

So this is not a time to waste any money. But at the same time, you want to get the country moving. You know, we've got to build millions of homes. We've got to build out clean energy. We've got to build out perhaps some pipelines. We've got to build out new trade corridors to Europe and to Asia. You spend a bit of money, you provide a lot of clarity. And then what happens is the private sector comes in in real scale. We can give ourselves, Mark, way more than Trump can ever take away.

Is it time for us to say enough with this sharing everything with the States? I mean, you dealt with Brexit. Is it time for a Canuck it? Should we just say, "Canuck it"?

-Well--

-"Canuck off. We're doing our own thing."

In some respects, you know, Trump, you've got to take him seriously. Like, take him literally and seriously. And so when he says the thing about our sovereignty-- [in Donald Trump voice] Going to make you the 51st state. Quite frankly, you're the governor. He doesn't call me that. What the hell did you say to him? Because before all this, he was saying it's the 51st state, quite frankly, they're very weak. They're going to call him-- the prime minister is the governor. And then you had a phone call with him, and he's like, the prime minister is not that bad. He's very smart. I'm looking for-- what did you-- do you have, like, nude Polaroids of him? I don't want to see them. But do you have them? What the hell did you say to him?

Well, one of the things-- Look, he respects strength.

-And--

-Yeah, but what did you say?

-Well, first--

-Some people said that-- First off--

--we have American bonds and that you maybe threatened to sell those off to kind of hurt the American dollar. Is that-- is there any truth in that? I couldn't possibly comment. But that's like-- [audience laughter]

Recently, at one of your rallies, a lady shouted out, "Lead us, Big Daddy!" And people say you have-- I've never met that woman. Well, people say you have Big Daddy energy. And Reuters, the reputable news agency, recently said that you have a blend of tough talk and bland competence, which is, I think, a way of saying you're-- they find you boring.

When I was appointed governor of the Bank of England, whatever it was, 10 years ago.

Humble brag. I'm just-- I just-- I know. It's just I like to go around these bank places. Yeah, the Queen. Yeah. Oh, here we go. It's me, the Queen, Paul McCartney. Go ahead. The Queen said to the UK prime minister at the time, David Cameron. I'm sorry. Let me get that name. No, go ahead. [laughs] She said-- You had a story. Yeah, I had a story. No. When I was appointed governor of the Bank of England, the Queen said, oh, good, a Canadian, they're very reliable. So it wasn't about me. It was just that's how she viewed Canadians.

Well, I don't know about the election, but we're at Tim Hortons. So let's see if you won anything. Oh, this is always tense. No. There must be some mistake. What's it say? I-- you know, it's broken. No, it-- It says, sorry, wait until 28th. So we can't tell if you won yet. As they say at Tim Hortons, if you don't win this time, sorry, try again.

Prime Minister, thanks for doing this. My pleasure, Mark.