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Max Spiers "LAST" Interview Before His DEATH!

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Hi, um, hello Max. Hi. Nice to see you back in the devices. Nice to see you. How are you? We're in a post-disclosure situation since the last time you've talked. And briefly, that means that an MI6 agent, a retiring MI6 agent called Peter Padgett, declared in public at the Warminster thing in August last year that the whole UFO thing is real, right? And, uh, but he's only allowed to speak to no more than about 150 people, so he kept within the rules. But one of the things he said is what we've about the whole ET thing. He went into a great deal of detail was the structure of the way the planet is run. And he explained how that went in a pyramid sort of structure, but there are other levels of control of others above. Also suggested there was going to be a change in that situation. Okay, so you're able to talk a lot about the details and the various meanings of things. Yeah.

Yes. So what I can, what I can, I'm, what I can talk to you about is, um, the unfolding of it, um, here and how, how it's reflected throughout society. And how, uh, I don't, I don't have the specifics on the details of the hierarchy of the ET hierarchy, but I do know that there's been an exchange, there's been an exchange of power, if, if you want to say that. The, the, the Annunaki, as, as, as we know them, the Annunaki has been sort of, um, the head or in control of this, this, this planet and sort of like finalizing details. But it's been, it was handed to them. So they were there, they were never at the top. They were never at the top anyway. So it was the Orion, the, the, I'm going to use the word Queens, the Orion of the Orion, um, feminine energy from the Orion, um, they're called the Orion Group. There's the leader of the Iranians, also echoed by Stuart Sverdlow, who essentially said one lot of is gonna, there's a handover, there's a shift. Yeah.

But well, because they're so, so, um, they were maybe what you could call at least they were leasing it. They were leasing the, the control of the planet for a certain amount of time from this, this other consciousness. Now they have to give it back. Now this was discussed at the Secret Space Program conference near Austin in Texas. Okay. I didn't know that. And they mentioned about contracts. If humanity was able to get its act together and renegotiate the lease, right, so to speak, we could then control our own domain. We've handed over our power though. We've handed over our power to these people for the longest time anyway. So it's not, it's that I don't think it's, it's really in our hands to be able to negotiate anything very much. If we've handed over our power to them, it's about understanding why, why we did that in the first place and understanding how this reality is created and built and having an understanding of that. And understanding that the subconscious is what creates this reality. The reason why I'm suggesting this about this handover of power because, um, and about the lease that you're talking about is the debate. There's a premise, there's a, there's a possibility at this time, whether it is a possibility or not, or not, but we could essentially take control of the situation before the next lock get back in. Right.

Now, I'd gone into talking about the reality, yeah, how reality is being made. And that's sort of my, where I'm at to talk about. So, um, in terms of that. So if reality is being made through the subconscious, and again, the subconscious has been hijacked, okay? So then this is basically what's been done. So they have created thought prisons throughout, um, throughout all of our time. So thought prisons being philosophical thought prisons or religious thought prisons or, um, any, any of the ones, any, any of the ones that are like that. They don't mind which one you buy into, as long as you buy into one of them and give it wholeheartedly, give your whole heart into it. Because essentially, like I've been trying to work on at the moment and explain that this is a war on the human heart. And Earth is the, so the final part of multiple other planets that have been, this has been done to. And, and Earth is the heart, the heart center place. So they're trying to take control of the, the Earth because it's the heart. And, um, by the way to do that is attack innocence. And the first thing you're going to do if you're going to take over a planet is you want to take away the, the strongest male energy. Um, so that's been done very calculatedly, especially over the 20th century with the, um, inversion, the inversion of the original Baphomet. Um, the, the original Baphomet, I think we were talking to you about this earlier, wasn't it? An androgynous goat of Mendes, pointing as above, so below, like that at all. But, um, Eliphas Lévi then created this goat, um, to, uh, show what a map, what it would be to, to, uh, externally create a male and female in one body, to have an androgynous, um, being that way. And I've talked about the Mona Lisa being sort of the same thing. It never made any sense to me why that particular picture or that particular painting was the most famous painting in the world. Why, why, why it's not, it's not a fantastic painting. Yeah, that's the mystery about why is it amazing. So, and then, so you have Mona, and then in Freemasonry, they use the word Mona a lot because it's Ammon. It's an anagram for Ammon. And then Lisa, or you would be in Italian would be El Essa, which is Isis. So it's like the union of Ammon-Ra and Isis into one body. That's what the Baphomet, that's what that, the Baphomet is, that the goat, that particular, the goat, they're always showing that imagery that Eliphas Lévi painted and created.

So, to take, they need to, to take out the planet. First of all, they need to take away the strong males of the planet. And so there's a massive push and a surge to emasculate the males on this planet. And it's, it's very, it's a very touchy subject because you can't really go too far with it without being called a bigot or without being called, well, it's a bit like the Jew term. Yeah. Immediately triggers you. Well, you're immediately condemned if you, if you say anything, if you that goes against kind of the mainstream thought of that. Um, so I'm, you know, I'm being careful and I'm not prejudiced in any way, but there is quite clearly an agenda going on with that. And the, the, uh, Jenna story, um, which with showing the showing that they could, right in front of our eyes, take a gold medal Olympic athlete and then turn him into a female was also embedding into the subconscious that, look what we can do. Look what we can do to you if we want to. It's like the Monarch program. The, the first model they used one of America's finest model ladies and they mind-controlled her. And, and, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they can make the finest and the best of what you've got. Yeah. Just exactly that. Exactly that. And then that's, I mean, that's quite clearly an agenda for anyone who sort of got their eyes open to see that. Um, so, uh, talking about the man, talking about that. If you're, if you're trying to attack the human heart, you're trying to finish the, that's the Earth is the heart and our connection to the Earth. All the human beings on on the Earth are connected to the heart. Um, and the attack on, on, on children and the, the, uh, the pedophile rings that are attached to, um, all the things that are going on at the moment are to do with attacking the innocence of of human beings. These a lot of these children's homes are on energy lines. So, right, trauma from the, what those children go through, well, they suggested into the Earth energetically. Yeah.

And so, so all of the, it's an inversion of all the sacred geometrical, the natural, the natural creative sacred geometrical patterns have been inverted. So all the Gothic cathedrals, um, all of the, the sort of main buildings, all of the architecture, you know, architecture goes back to masonry as well. They have all the grid lines, they have the maps, and they have all the information for all the grid lines all over the planet. So they, they've been doing that. And they've managed to, uh, not just the only, because we tend to think of all the, the old, you know, the old Gothic, uh, uh, buildings being the ones that are sacred, sacredly geometrically built, but all the modern stuff is as well. It's just, it's unseen. It's not, it's not as clear. When you walk into a cathedral, you quite clearly see that it's there. But it's also with the modern buildings, it's the same way. Um, so, yeah, so they're inverting. I was, um, in addition to this, so with their, so they can't, um, implement this, you know, they can't put this all into into play like immediately. It has to be done in a, like a drip, drip, slowly, slowly push it, put it into place because otherwise people would revolt against it. But, um, slowly they've been being able to, um, increase the amount of vileness in, in like mainstream television. Slowly, with, uh, creating, uh, animated television that is told, we're told that it was created for for adults, like South Park or like, um, Family Guy. We're told these are adult shows, but you know, anytime you're going to have an animated show, they know that children are going to be drawn to it, especially with South Park when it's being based around children. Um, and so children are watching the most unbelievably vile things. And that's an attempt to gain to, it's one of the sidearms of taking away the innocence, taking away the innocence because heart, the core heart is innocent. Christine Joanna Hart, who you've been on a show, her, she's mentioned about her child and about the kind of books that they're being read that they have to read as part of their education. Yeah. Has slaughter and yes. Yeah. Blood and all sorts of horrendous things. Yes. And this is dismissed to just, oh, this is an award-winning author, you should be reading it. But this is for children, you know, it's very young children. You want to keep an eye on who's writing the children's books. And, you know, you see a lot of celebrities writing children's books. I'm not going to name any names, but you can go and look around and find that that, um, Madonna has written a number of children's books. There are other, there are others too. Like, it's kind of, it's, it's out there pretty much that Madonna is a high priestess. And she's, she, it's very clear if you watch any of her performance, number of her performances at the, um, any of the big shows that she's doing ritualistic work. She's doing that. And she's writing children's books because they want to get to children because children is the raw innocence. They're not so much interested in the later years because you sort of already adapted your thought patterns and your thought prisons. You've already sort of dealt with that. They, you already dealt with, so they don't need, they're not interested. So they're always going after the children. Um, they're, they're, they're increasingly sort of the children's books are increasingly vile. And I'll bring up Roald Dahl. And I remember being read Roald Dahl when I was a kid. And, um, Roald Dahl, um, I was always like fascinated by his, his stories. And they are quite brilliant, but they also are quite vile as well. And Roald Dahl was, um, an MI6 agent. And, uh, worked with Influence Crowley, Fleming, and Dahl and Churchill actually all worked together. But I know, but on this, this particular thing, Dahl was working with Fleming. And, um, uh, he, I think, I, there is a, um, Parkinson interview where he opened, I found a Parkinson's interview where he openly said he was working for MI6 during the Second World War. That's the only time that it's out there. So he is an insider. So, so you know, throughout his books, he will, um, put truths because that's what they tend to do. They always want to tell you what they're doing. They'll always tell you in one way or another what they're doing or how they're going to do it because that's part of the contract as well. As part of the thing, if, if they tell you what they're doing and you're not smart enough to pick it up, then they can get away with it karmically. It's sort of a way, a loophole in the karmic law that if we, if they tell you, they tell you, and you don't do anything about it, then you know, more for you. Yes. This is a fundamental principle of what we're giving about how I give our solutions away. Absolutely. The idea is to pull those permissions back. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And, and definitely Dahl is definitely an interesting one to to look into. You do, um, a whole, uh, talk on Roald Dahl, Ian Fleming, and Crowley just in and of itself. Um, anyway, uh, so, so Fleming was also an insight, MI6 insider. And so you have throughout peppered throughout all the, the, the Bond movies, which were, which, uh, Broccoli, Albert, the Broccoli family, family funded, they're the money behind it. So nothing good, I think Albert, I think his name's Albert. Nothing gets through at all unless he, he sees everything. He's like the final, he sees the final cut of everything. So you know, the Broccoli family are military intelligence family as well, connected to through, uh, the Second World War. This is all Project Paperclip stuff. And Dahl is connected to Paperclip and connected to CIA as well. So anyway, so going back to Dahl's books and going back to children's books and how significant they are. So if you're reading those, if you're reading those stories to children, and they're layered with subconscious imagery, subconscious letters, then that's going to be embedded within the child. And then, you know, they, this particular consciousness that is doing this here is is purely and simply a vampiric consciousness. It's doesn't have a central core energy to feed itself. It has to take from others. It doesn't naturally understand what giving is. It has to take from other other beings. That's how it works. So, um, this, this false reality that's manifested and created here is done by, um, embedding images and sounds and and ideas into the into children's minds. And then you, you grow up, uh, having and thinking that you know, also textbooks, you know, like we were saying with children's textbooks, there, that's you're given what the fundamental ideas of what, what we're told history is and what we're, how we're told the world is. And then that is then put to the conscious mind. And then so we believe it to be so. Then we manifest a false reality. So we're living out a reality that really, um, wouldn't be what we, isn't our natural state at all. So that, it's, we're kept in a, in a sort of a, anytime a child reads something that is that is vile, it may want to come back and see it again because children have that sort of that need, but, or that desire to like look at something they're not supposed to. But it does give them a traumatized reaction. And that traumatized reaction, that energy from that traumatized reaction can then be harvested. Um, and that, that works as well through, um, excuse me, uh, the, the, the movies, the, the, the horror movies that are coming out now. Like I used to think the horror movies from the 70s, the Italian horror movies were the seventh from the 70s were the most, like intense and the most gruesome that that you could be. But they've, they've taken it a step further with the, with the extreme nature of like the Saw movies. And like those movies, all the movie theaters themselves are also built on energy grid points, that so to harvest the energy from from the fear of the people watching the movies. So those things set up. Yeah. Yeah. To make sure because fear energy, they fear energy is the best, um, energy for them to then take and then go and create the, to, to create the false reality. They don't understand the love energy. They don't understand it. They, so their mentality is to conquer and destroy. And it's always about self-preservation, conquering and destroying. They don't care. They don't take care of this particular consciousness doesn't take care of its young. If it's, if its young are weakened, it discards them and throws them away. Their mammalian consciousness feeds its young and nurtures its young, takes care of it. Whereas they, so that then that ma, that that manifests how they are, um, as adults as well. They have no time for anybody who's weak or anybody who has a disability or anybody, so you know, who is, um, physically less than. They they think that as a, a weakness in the gene pool and would rather have that wiped out. It's a very, it's a very, um, primal, primordial, like the Spartans. Yeah. The way the Spartans leave the children out in, yeah, yeah. If they die, they die. Yeah. Because that conscious, that, but then, and, you know, that consciousness wants to, it, it knows very, very well how to, uh, keep going and surviving as far down. If it's trying to win, if it's trying to win, it's trying to defeat. It's trying to defeat what the heart. Okay. This is, this whole plane, this whole war here on this particular planet, not other planets, but this planet. This whole war is about taking out the heart completely. And so it's, it's about survival. The human is about the heart. And, yeah. So, so, yeah, the Spartans would leave out their, their children and the one, the ten children, and then if two survived, and they would take those two and then they would be stronger because, you know, but then that's no, obviously there's no, that's that's taking empathy out of the equation or compassion out of the equation. Um, because, but if they don't have this loving awareness thing that some people used, and the all you need is love slogan from the 60s, right, right. I mean, is that to counter that or whatever? Um, I, I think that the, the, the 60s was infiltrated. Through the 60s movement, there was a consciousness movement that happened in the 60s for sure. And I think that there was a sort of an injection of, uh, I'm using that term injection. There was, there was, there was an infusion of souls, uh, volunteer souls that came in the 50s and 60s who were perhaps born in the 50s that were growing up in the 60s and early 70s that were here to try and change things. And it was very, very quickly, um, infiltrated by Leary and others like him. And, and with the tuning and drop out consciousness. And that, you know, they wanted to definitely get LSD involved. They definitely wanted to get LSD involved because, um, it's a synthetic form of hallucinogenic. You know, and, and all the Ayahuasca experiences and other like natural hallucinogenic experiences, you know, it's, it's, it's questionable whether they can be beneficial. I think sometimes they can be beneficial, sometimes they can open your third eye and, and you can see things. Other times they can cause massive, massive harm to people. And, and they, that can cause that could cause trauma that then affects their lives. But LSD being, um, uh, synthetic, you, it's, it's not, it's not, it's not so good. It's not so good. So they need, they used, you know, they used the Beatles, which is a Tavistock creation, to then make sure, you know, to inject "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" and, you know, the transit, which is LSD initials. They were in, they were getting people to do that, you know, and then manipulating. So you, you know, if, if you get a large number of people doing LSD, and then you've also got control of, you know, with the thought prisons that were around at the time, the different, um, that's the new philosophies. Yeah. Well, the new way stuff sort of began when, sort of perhaps maybe the new age movement as it stands now, sort of began at the end of the eighties. Maybe. I thought it was a lot earlier. Not a hippie thing. I don't think that. Then maybe, maybe what do you think? New age is hippie? I think perhaps no, might be different. Uh, maybe, yeah, maybe maybe new age is hippie. Well, okay, let's say, let's say it is. Maybe it began in the sixties. It might be wrong. But we certainly ended and hijacked at the Altamont concert with the Rolling Stones was the ritual killing, um, with the, you know, the Rolling Stones are, um, satanic bands. I mean, I'm not saying that I don't like some Stones songs, cause they do. But, um, I know that what there's an agenda behind it. And I know the out of the death of, uh, and I've forgotten the name of the person that died at Altamont, but it was 1969. Yeah. And that was the sort of end. And then, you know, they wrote the, it was protected by the Hells Angels, which were a Masonic order. Absolutely. Yeah. And they were, that the Hells Angels had to be there for the ritual to be, uh, correct. They had to have those that, you know, and sort of Hells Angels is a, is sort of a double bind in in and of itself, isn't it really? Because you sort of wouldn't have angels in hell, would you? Yeah. So the, even, even the word hell, even the term Hell's Angel is, uh, um, could be a trigger word. There's a trigger word in an orbit or trigger words in and of itself. Any double bind is anytime you put a, um, two opposing thoughts or thought ideas into one into one sort of term, you, you treat, you can trigger somebody with it.

So where are we at? We're, we're at, uh, the control of the planet by, and how the whole media industry, the whole entertainment, yeah, yeah, full of this pedophile stuff. So, so I mean, as we speak, there's a huge report about the Jimmy Savile thing going through. Yeah. And also the, um, another subject which we just discussed was a gentleman called Aquino. Do you want to have Santa? But I don't know. Well, um, I, uh, I don't, I don't know. I don't know enough about really to go into into too much deal. Do you to tell you too much about him? Yeah. I just, because, you know, there's legal implications to do with that because he was involved in a legal trial. And I, you know, I don't, I, I'd rather sort of let the people who know about that specifically, like I think probably go to Douglas Dietrich for for information on, um, Mr. Aquino. But, um, they're certainly, uh, um, if you just pull, pull the covers back a little bit, you'll find massive connections to the Templar set, the Church of Satan, and they're all, they're all interconnected. And they're trying to, they're, they're playing out a storyline. They're playing out. They use their, used Revelations from the Bible as a storyline, as a storybook. And they're trying to sort of mount. That's why that's the most embedded book. You know, and King James altered it and changed it around and and inverted all of true Christ's teachings. Through Christ's teachings, weren't weren't really anything to do with most of the stuff that's written in there. The, the, like the core of Christ's teaching, Christ's teachings were about compassion and caring about other people and not about, um, well, you have a vengeful God and all that. They're all the Old Testament stuff. Yeah. I mean, that's Anu, all of the Old Testament is basically, you know, Anu and his and his crew who, um, like to, Anu and his people like to imitate. They come down here and imitate others and pretend to be, um, things that they aren't.

So what about these gods which have all come to Earth? Okay. So why, why now? Why, why do they have to these gods? Why must be in human bodies? What's there? Because this particular change over in this tra, this transfer point has never happened before. It's never happened like this before. There are multiple cycles that are coming to an end. There are multiple times. There, there's a 3,600 year cycle that's coming to an end. There's, I think there's a 13,000 year cycle that's coming to an end. There's a 25 and a half thousand year cycle that's coming to an end. So they're on, they're all coming to an end at this point. And so there's, there was sort of a, a, a need to come down and experience this change over in a physical body down here now. Because the experience to be in a physical body now and go through this changeover is like nothing else that's ever been that's ever happened. Why is that important? What's the? Well, because it's going, it's going from a, a race, a grow, a species, a growing species is going from being completely in the dark to then all of a sudden being and completely knowing and understanding what's been, what's gone on with them. And then this is the planet of amnesia. And so, you know, nobody, everyone's walking around not knowing who really who they are. So, um, to experience going from not knowing to knowing, um, is a massive, uh, it is like, it's like nothing else. What is it that we were that we've forgotten? Um, well, that was that, is that a contradiction in terms? No, no, it isn't. It isn't. Um, so, so who, when you said amnesia's amnesia, where this is some kind of place where we're all captured? There's lots of different races here. Not everybody on this planet is amnesia, is in amnesia. So this, this, this vampiric consciousness that's here that's in control of it, um, are coming here with memories. They're coming down here with memories. There's an interesting analogy that somebody said to me before, and I sort of elaborated on it a little bit. It's almost like it's, um, a holographic, very, very, very real video game where they came down and they had the rule books and all the cheats, and we were left and scattered across the planet with nothing. So they're holding the cheat book. They have the cheat book. So they're coming here with previous memories of lifetimes. So they're this, so they built the great work, the great work of ages that they all talk about, and they're all, that the Masons are all so, so glee and and so happy about. Is completing the capstone back onto on the top of the pyramid? And replacing the capstone on the pyramid would be meaning that they had complete control of the human heart and this planet. Um, that, isn't going to happen. That isn't going to happen. Um, all the groundwork and all the work has already been done to stop that from happening. But, um, so we're now just going to sort of play it out and it's going to unfold. Um, so, so people here have already chosen if, if they, uh, what haven't learned the lessons or they haven't, uh, fully understood the, what the lessons to be learned in 3D master-slave dualistic reality, then they will go to another frequency or a similar type of plane as this one and redo the life cycle lessons over and over again. If the ones that are, because I believe that the ones that are going to be left here are going to be the ones to build the new paradigm. And the new paradigm is going to be built with an understanding and an acceptance of of each other, where, where it's not about, um, it's, it's about, it would be about where they'll be, will understand that that harming, um, somebody else or attempting to harm somebody else, because you'll have an intrinsic understanding that the other person is actually you, you wouldn't want to go and harm them because you'd know you'd be harming yourself. Um, and so that, that, that, that will the people that are left to build that here will. So what essentially, whatever you think of yourself, whatever you believe, you know, you think you are, the imagination in yourself. I'm definitely sure of that. I'm definitely sure what you feel about you, you're sort of manifest outwardly to to other people. Um, and so, yeah, so that's, is that the whole trick? Is that because we are able to manifest and they can't manifest? And if they get this, they're going to get us to manifest for ourselves out of existence so they can have the planet? Um, well, they won't know because they need us as batteries, remember? Because because they can't build. They're not, they, it's funny, they call themselves, they call themselves builders, you know, because Freemasons or masonry, it means building or architecture. And it's ironic really, because they can't build. They're the ones who can't. They're the, the ones who, who can build, who do the building. That's probably one of their cosmic jokes again. The ones who can build are the ones who they were using us to build for them because they don't have a central core to build. Um, so that, I wouldn't think that they would, if, you know, I think every possible, every single possible reality is played out. Every single possible thing, um, even a, you know, reality where, uh, this chair was a different color, or where you didn't have turkey for a, uh, lunch. Every single possibility is played out. So in the reality that that's played out where, where they do win and whether they, they're victorious, um, they would have a slave race that was an androgynous slave race, probably kept down to a lot less people on the planet than there are now. They would probably keep, keep, I don't know. I don't know. Is this happening now? And the androgynous? Yeah, yeah. It sort of does. It sort of does. And they sort of are doing that. But it's not, but they haven't done it completely because there are still there are there are still warriors on this planet who are standing up and speaking and fighting back and and doing something. So they haven't, you know, that they're, they are trying to do it and it seems like they're getting closer to it. But they, in their control, they completely control the media in every way. So, you know, how do I really know that what they put on the television is really what's going on? I don't know. And if any of that's true, I don't, I don't really know. If, you know, that's a bit like Wag the Dog, that movie that De Niro and Hoffman did, you know, where it's all, you know, the news media where they show, you know, that their show, what everything that they show is just literally to sway the mind or the public opinion into whatever direction they want to. Well, in the United States, have not made it legal for news to be completely fixed and fictional. Not that it wasn't fictional in the first place. I don't know. Exactly. A lot, you can actually lie on American news legally. You can have a fictional story to not know basis in reality on on a network, network on a network mainstream. Okay. So that's that sort of goat ties in with the blurring of the lines of everything, doesn't it? Because, you know, they want to blur the lines of everything so that there's confusion. And so, I, I think I said before, like that one of their mottos, Masonic mottos, is Ordo Ab Chao, which is order out of chaos. And so what they want to do is create literally as much chaos by blurring the lines of everything, whether it's sexuality or whatever, so that then they can implement their new world, you know, new world systems. So when we have people that have contempt for government, contempt for major broadcasters and the press, it's, it's actually they want that. They want that. Uh, yeah. And undermining. Yeah. And so, you know, with the Savile thing was really, really, you know, significant in in pointing in the direction of going, you know, because Prince Charles had so many connections to Savile. And, you know, there's very clear royal ties to Savile, very, very, you know, very clear. So, you know, it's, it's becoming clearer and clearer that perhaps, you know, the royal family, you know, maybe may, you know, may even to the common, you know, regular person that that maybe they are involved. So I wouldn't be surprised if they used all of those as fall guys. And they used all of these people that we have grown up with seeing and idolized. That's also another attack on the heart too, you know. We grew up idolizing these people and thinking they were just, you know, fantastic and and loving them, loving them, falling in love with them. We fall in love with our movie stars. We fall in love with the people we that we see on television every day. And then it was set up that in that 20 years later that that we're being told that they sexually abuse children. That's a heartbreak in itself. Yes. And I think that was calculated in and of itself to do that so they can use all these people as fall guys. And then they can say, look, you know, we rounded all the all the bad guys about. Actually, in fact, you know, they've all gone. We, they're all, they're all fallen. And we've got them all. I don't know who's going to do that. But and then so then let's implement, you know, a new system which is a centralized system. So none of this can have, none of this will ever happen again. Yeah. We'll have to. So who, who are the fall guys? The full and fulfillment. Right. Erwin calls them the second degrees. They're all expendable. But they don't. Yeah. They are all. I would say they don't know they are. But remember, this consciousness is the ultimate double-crossing consciousness. What they say they, what they say they do, the opposite of. They're the ultimate manipulative serpentine consciousness. Yes. So, so what does that mean? Serpentine? Do they actually, are they actually serpents? Draco or whatever? That's going into the hierarchy of the, the ET hierarchy. Um, I think that, so I mean, that, so that we all have a reptilian brain or our complex, um, the amygdala brain. And they seem to be working just through that part of the brain. So there's the neo-mammalian brain, which is the, the compassion and empathic brain. As the reptilian brain, could that mean that because they work through that part of the brain so much that they would, they could appear to be as if have physical DNA of reptilian DNA? Look that way? I don't see why not. I don't see why that that would that seems so outrageous. Yes. So that's very possibly could be. But remember, they're working through that part of the brain. So anybody who wants to study the amygdala brain or the reptilian brain, then you will know what they're like. And they're double-crossers, and they're liars, and they're two-faced, and they are survival-oriented. Um, and, yeah, I mean, obsessive-compulsive. [Music] Might is right. It's definitely worth looking into the amygdala brain, and that's what they work through primarily. So could they have, could they have scales? Could they? Absolutely. Yeah. Why, why not? I think if you are the imagination of yourself, and they are that, and I believe that, and then, then yes, definitely. I think that this is coming from the, like I said, the Orion, the Orion group, that area of the galaxy is their, their, um, sort of dinosaur-looking, sort of being like, literally like dinosaur, saurian looking beings.

So where is Max going these days? What, what's your interest? What, what plans? Okay, so, so what, what am I doing? I'm working very much on solutions and trying to preserve, um, the human heart and trying to find out or trying to work with others who are also doing that. And, you know, there's all, there's all this military intelligence connections and there really, really are. And there's lots of that. And I, that, you know, that I, I could talk for hours on that on that type of stuff. But I, I've been trying to, um, uh, go to a more solution-oriented sort of place. So that rather than fear, rather than hammering more fear, because then more fear places fear is what they do. So maybe, maybe try something that opposes what they're doing, you know, um, so where am I headed? I'm doing that. I'm, I'm trying to, um, what I wanted, what I wanted to do is I wanted to get a group together of people who have been through these, uh, MK projects, which in the 70s and 80s, which, which I know a number of people who went through these MK projects in the 70s and 80s and have it so that anybody else who'd gone through that could, there could be a support network or support, you know, where somebody could come and they wouldn't feel, um, completely isolated. And, and, you know, because most of us don't survive those things, 99.999 don't survive. And the ones who do survive, um, sort of left out in the cold, so to speak, you know, and, and their stories are sort of pushed aside as as crazy and insane and, and, um, this really does go on, you know, there's an awful lot of people coming forward to this stuff. Yeah. And it's fantastic. And the pedophilia is one thing, but these ritual child killings, yeah, I mean, um, satanic, SRA, satanic ritual abuse is, um, you know, is a part of, you know, a lot of people's stories. And there's always, there's the, the, the, um, American Psychology Association have even set up a group to counter this, to shut people, shut people down who are coming out and saying this stuff because there's so many. Yeah. Specific group to shut that down, not to help them, but just to give. Yeah. Yeah. Because, because why? That means it must be involved, right? Work, of course, it is. Yeah. Definitely is. Um, uh, and that's not meaning that everybody who's in, like you, with any of these fields, does not mean that everybody who's involved with it with that particular field is, uh, um, doing those things. But at the highest levels, you know, it does work in a pyramid structure. And at the top, they are doing that. They definitely are doing that. Um, and, you know, it's just, there's more and more names coming out now that are just bizarre, uh, that that you would never, never have expected. And the thing is that to definitely look out for is they're going to make your heroes look like, uh, they were set up 20, 30, 40 years ago to layer these heroes into your hearts. And then now in this present, they tell you that they've, they're actually this, that, or the other a child, which is of course, it's been happening. It's heartbreaking. Year or two, people don't want to accept it either. They don't want to accept that so that's the truth. So a lot still won't accept it when they hear, even when they, you know, that their Savile is is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to this stuff. I was speaking to a new, a young social worker, and she just is amazed that the scale of the pedophilia is absolutely massive. Yeah. And they all cover each other's backs too. They also, they all, they they all take care of one another. So it's like, you know, it's, uh, uh, they're, they're very, very, uh, careful to protect one another because they, that, that it's not really about, it's not really about sexuality. It's about energy. It's about taking the innocence. It's about harming the heart. And it's about taking the, the innocence, the, the energy because that gives, that to stealing that energy then gives them, uh, the energy they need to go and build or do and create whatever they want to create. So it's, it's actually sort of outside of a sexuality thing, almost. But however, the victims are exactly right. Right. And we, we do have somebody who is going to come to this country from Canada. She's targeting the trying to heal people, teach healers or therapists to try and heal for this, for that specific thing with the, yeah. And that, and so with the IMA, I, I wrote a post on Facebook and, and, you know, there's people that know me on Facebook. And, and people are welcome to do to speak to me about that. But I want to start a support group for people who've been through, um, any of the, you know, Monarch is only one, you know, that's beta, that's beta, like sex, kitten, sort of control. But there's Delta can, there's Delta mind control, and there's all the whole number of other ones that, you know, children have been through. And there, there's no, don't see any support groups for anywhere. Go look on the internet, you won't find any support. Well, we tried to get one going earlier, last, a couple of years ago. Did that sort of crash down? So, you know, I'm gonna, I will do, you know, I'm gonna do Christine Hart's show, uh, again, and, uh, maybe I'll bring, I'll bring that up then about possibly putting something like that together. Um, apart from Facebook, how do people get hold of Max Spears if they want to? Do you want people to get hold of? Yeah, no, definitely. I definitely want people to get hold of me. Um, that I can give my email address, um, and the process at the moment, some of, uh, a different, and miners building a website for me, um, so when that's done, yeah, so as of, as of as it stands now, um, my email address is, um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The best way to do it is Facebook. Yeah. Yeah. Just Facebook for now. It's better to leave. You don't want to get another email. I don't really know. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be best.

Okay, well, I think we have to catch a train. All right. So, uh, all right, we'll wrap this up for now and have a great show tomorrow. All right. Yeah, it'll be very controversial. Yeah. And, uh, heated, which is good radio. Good, good, good. That's what it's all about. Yeah. Definitely. Thank you, Miles, for the opportunity though. And, you know, and I would, I, I'd like to do a second part of this. [Music] Yeah, yeah. Okay, well, thank you very much. [Music] [Music] You.