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會八十直播177|如果真有外星人,「信仰」仲存在嗎?|宇宙觀大洗牌!外星人 VS 宗教信仰|「人類,你準備好接受真相未?」|嘉賓: 雲海|1/6/2026

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For the first time in history, for the first time in history, we have a guest who wants to do a live broadcast to discuss courage. Is this the first time? Yes, because this friend is also a senior figure. A senior figure in my field. He's a sharp-tongued person, he always has been, so I think you guys are really amazing for being able to attract him. What's up? What are we doing today? Today we've invited someone who knows a lot about a few things and has done extensive research. One is religion, and the other is UFOs. Recently, the US government, President Trump, declassified 161, or 162, or 160, 162 documents. Oh, they've been released, all written down. So, within these 162 documents, there's a lot about, for those who study UFOs and aliens, don't ask me about music. [Laughter] Yes, I study every aspect, I don't represent conspiracy theories. OK, OK, friends interested in conspiracy theories, you're in the right place, you're interested. You're all welcome. [Laughter] So, what do you think about today, let's move on, let's move on. [Laughter] Alas, this time, this matter, I've seen many people talking about it, and some have made four-hour documentaries. We've already shortened it to an hour today, and we hope to focus on religion. Yes, because I see that there's a question in the discussion forums. The most important thing now is that with the declassification of UFO files. Hmm? Although I watched your program, I felt there wasn't much substance, it wasn't very exciting, you felt there wasn't much substance, it wasn't exciting, it wasn't exciting. But then, everyone can't help but wonder, if it's really aliens, how will it impact our religion? It absolutely will. For example, if you remember Christianity, it talks about Jehovah creating heaven and earth, right? So now, with UFOs, how do you explain it? Aliens must have created them too, right? So it will shake the very existence of religion. Are we getting to the core of it? We're already getting to the core of it. Now, within the entire UFO system, there are actually things related to religion. For example, before we talk about this, we need to understand this first. What is it? It's actually divided into two factions. This is a very important point. One is called the data faction, which is purely looking at data, looking at information, looking at files. This is the data faction. The other is called the message faction, which listens to messages, listens to some information from outer space, or from other planets. This is called the message faction. So, what's the difference? When I was young, I was in this so-called data faction. That is to say, I wanted to see discs or see how many there were. I would collect all the cases, all the data, and tell people that UFOs have appeared, alien civilizations have appeared. This is the data faction. What data? How many came, how many times, or how many? For example, maybe here, there are a few cases. I'll go through each case, one by one, a collective sighting case. There are individual cases. All the time, place, object, and experiences of each case are all data. It's all data, OK? At that time, I was in this system, and I thought, OK, this is a phenomenon, an observable phenomenon, and we need to have actual integrated data to study it. So, I started out like this. Okay. Then later, you know, I met Ah, the founder of the Hong Kong UFO Association. When he came to Hong Kong to establish this association, we helped him. He was the chairman, and I was the vice-chairman. We worked together to research UFOs. At that time, he was the opposite. He was in the message faction. He felt that, he told me, Yun Hai, you are in the data faction, I don't mind, but you should also pay attention to the messages. What are messages? It's that he studies, for example, in America, in Europe, or in some third-world countries, people who encounter UFOs. Maybe they communicate with aliens, talk, or even go on UFOs. Some people even say they've been on UFOs to those planets and then returned to Earth. In the process, they receive a lot of information, or a lot of languages, or warnings. So, we need to see what they are talking about. This is it. So, he and I had a little disagreement. It's not that they can't be distinguished. For example, if I transmit a message, and we communicate once, does it become data? No, it's not calculated like that. Some are heavier on one side, some are heavier on the other. No, it's not like that. Because these two factions can be opposed. That's why they are separated into two factions. That is to say, for example, many data faction people in America don't believe what people in the message faction say. They think, hey, you're just fantasizing, you're making things up, you're crazy, you're dreaming. There is an element of opposition. But of course, I was in the data faction at the beginning, I was in the data faction. As we went along, I realized something. If you really study something with your heart, then these two factions, as they say, are very important. You've already thought about it. They can be compatible. They can be. However, you have to study very hard and be very attentive. You'll find that these two things are actually not that different. It's like what you said earlier, there's a mechanism, it's there, right? There's no difference. But some people feel that some messages might have a big impact. So, this part is about the impact. For example, as I said earlier. So, they don't dare to research, they don't dare to say it's real, or they don't dare to transmit these messages. So, what's the biggest message right now? It's that we are influencing each other. Because, what's the biggest message? Why are aliens coming to Earth, talking to people, communicating with people, and telling everyone? Most of the content initially was to tell everyone that you Earthlings should not possess, should not develop, these technologies, because you humans are very, very foolish. You can't handle it, you can't control it, but you still want to play these games. This is what the faction sent out. That's right. And this is whether there was anything before or after. That is to say, the event was a turning point. After it started in America, UFOs began to appear. To some extent, there were many more so-called contacts with these aliens. There were some before, but not so dense, and it was given to America. The atomic bomb. And that place, New Mexico, is where the incident happened in Norway. That is to say, it's actually a little related to the incident and nuclear. It affected the aliens. You bombed it, and they came to see you, right? The message says that suddenly in outer space, those people discovered, hey, this is not right. 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