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Hi everyone. I know you will all be thrilled to hear we're going to have another conversation with Dr. David Clemens. Very good friend of mine. I know you love him to bits and you know so often the word that comes up with David is integrity. Um, he is his integrity and and I'd like to add his brilliance.
So for the whole number of you that haven't heard of of David, uh, Dr. David Clemens, originally a theoretical physicist specializing in string theory, um, advanced degrees in physics and maths from our um esteemed universities, but then his life changed dramatically in really it was your remote viewing that was going so well, wasn't it? You started connected by um galactic beings and David constantly has these galactic beings at his shoulder who helping generative technology to help humanity. Um, but as well as that, and he's now a living energy systems expert, and he runs a beautiful Patreon group. Um, and there are two tiers, aren't there, David? There's a free tier and a and a paid tier. Um, and so there are different levels in there, but you can join as a free member.
And the reason I wanted to have this conversation with David, apart from the fact any excuse, and you'd love me to talk more.
>> Likewise.
So, um, it was last Sunday you held a live stream because they come up round about every two weeks or so, don't they?
>> Yes, that's right.
>> And, uh, it was a about a two-hour session with a really powerful um, meditation. And I'm going to be asking David about about this because by the end you were you were kind of pretty blown away. You know, we could see
>> Yeah, that's putting it mildly.
>> or deeply moved by that. And there were over 2,000 people on that call, but I thought it was so powerful, we had to share what was coming through you to to more people. So, because if you want to join David's Patreon, you can do it completely for free.
And I I just wanted to start with one of the things you you said, David, because you said at the end um that what you'd experienced was like a a surge of energy, like a micronova from the center of the earth.
>> Yes.
Yeah. It was I mean there was so many layers to unpack there and uh perhaps probably uh before we get to that stage if you don't mind to give a bit of contrast. So people who may not have um heard of any of the work that the teams do with on the Patreon side because I know you've got a huge influx of of new people to your work as well. is that um a little while ago and before the beginning of this year they spoke of uh this year being such a massive ramp up in energetics and what was going to happen. They spoke about these waves that were coming through that happened exactly as they said because it was actually you who asked the question you know did they have a date for when the waves are going to start and it just suddenly came through and on that date because I don't normally give dates because I I uh you know things are usually in flux because of people's choices and decisions those sort of things um but it was very strong and on that day everybody else when I asked them just felt yes it was this powerful wave that just rolled on through. Um and anyway, so as that continued, um they brought through this idea that they were putting an energetic membrane a little bit like you could think of as the um the layer of the womb, you know, a sort of, you know, to to basically create a new interior around the earth, a sort of growing process if you like. And they mentioned that by doing this there were going to be sequential updates and just sort of shifts up shifts up shifts up and updates to the interior of this membrane. And they would be sort of monitoring watching how people cope with say level one how everyone was integrating and stabilizing and then when time was ready they'd be bringing through the next one and and so on. And I believe what happened on Sunday was one of those upshifts that they spoke about. And uh it was quite extraordinary because when I um uh so these the meditations that come through I I don't just decide oh yeah it'll be great to do this this week or this week um I consult with my teams and they make recommendations of what they'd like to do on that particular one and if they have nothing
>> go.
>> Yes. Exactly. Yes. So it's a combination. It's my highest self obviously all the way through to my source self or the infinite source intelligence as I call it that everybody has access to. Um and then the galactic teams who obviously operate at a very high level of connectivity with the source intelligence who assist in different realms in different ways. So there's there's a multitude of different beings. Some of them are different races. Some of them are non corporeal or don't have physical form and they're in field form. So, it's a pretty vast sort of group effort, if you like, of of uh beings. And so, they come through and they they have the sort of what shall we say the the 100,000 ft view of everything. Um, so they know exactly what's best to introduce when and and and and how. And on this particular one they said we really would like uh this is a global meditation. So you know and to have this so as many people can participate as possible and it was to do with this interior uplifting uh this massive new paradigm shift uh of the interior. And they said what's happening sequentially with you know because they said humanity and the earth itself are walking hand in hand with this ascension process. And so we're upleveling and symbiotically upleveling together and with each other and for each other as well. So it's a whole sort of family um it's a a family gig, let's call it that way, if you want to say that. Um and so yeah, it was extraordinary. There's a lot of things in there because they usually give me a little bit of an outline before, you know, going into it. I have uh the right information to tell people before we go into the meditation. But they always leave a lot of surprises and little gems in there which you know are very spontaneous and are for the meditation moment only and not to be you know mentally sort of cognitized beforehand. Um and yeah, so it was incredible.
Um, it was first of and and one of the big themes of what this was about because as everybody knows there's a lot of stuff going on in the world right now. A lot of kinetic stuff taking place, a lot of upheaval, a lot of big big things taking place and it's upsetting a lot of people understandably. And so they were saying that what what was actually taking place is there is a release of the energy of suffering that was going on. And that is such a big big big thing for the human race and I know you know that very very well. And so it was essentially that they were saying that all all these effects taking place because of a millennia and millennia because of this human experiment that has taken place. Um, what we have to understand as human beings we are emitters of energy and it's the quality um sort of the effervescence if you like of that energy the coding of intent within our emissions that sculpt and shape our experience and our reality a little bit like and I've said this before like in a cinema you know cinema has pure white light passing through but then it goes through the filter of the film now the film could be a horror film yuck or it can be a really cool entertaining fun uplifting film You know, it really depends on how you um sort of alter, change and filter your emissions as they come out. Those filters are our beliefs. Um, you know, could be all sorts of other things. Um, unresolved traumas, emotions we've got stuck. All of those add to the filtration and the coloration if you like of the emissions we give off. And that's the net energy we broadcast. And so everything reflects that to us in exactly onetoone to that broadcast.
And so one of the things which the teams were saying is that because of the lifetime after lifetime of uh suffering and that in itself is a big concept because there's many different forms of suffering that we create upon ourselves all of the time and lack and you know lack is simply there is is a form of self-induced suffering you know um because you know people use the word abundance and things all the time but what is abundance well the way the teams describe described it and I feel this very much for myself as well is that abundance is a real open access to the source well inside you and you know and the less filters and filtrations you have that recolor that emission you'll have this most beautiful serene most abundant enriched thriving life and so that's where and and myself included in many years past you know I had a lot of lack going on it was life was difficult it was a big struggle struck you know day to day I I had big dreams of what I wanted to do but had no means to do them all those kind of things and um it was very frustrating and I didn't fully understand at that time that as the team said it's this is this is part of the the suffering you create for yourself because you believe in one form or another that you have to or you must or yada yada yada could be a number of different reasons but as I began to or as they began to work with me and I began to work through peeling off the layers of the different belief systems, the old traumas and clearing the the yucky filters, let's call it, you know, away. Suddenly everything the the sculpting of my experience started to change because then instead of emitting you know the request of lack and suffering and can't haves can't do all those things that you know sit in a lot of different energy fields of people and it comes from past life. There's many many layers of these past lives that people have. Suddenly everything started to change around effortlessly. Things began began to manifest. the the true nature of abundance began to to create itself. And that's really a message of encouragement for people as well to say you all have that source intelligence, that pure um spark of of an abundant, thriving life inside you. That's not just a nice pick you up, feel-good uh expression. It really is there, but it's the filters that get in the way that kind of muddy the water, so to speak. You know, because they've used the analogy many times of, you know, a glass of water full of mud and as you as you pour crystal a pure crystalline water in, the mud's going to ooze out and it's going to look like it's really messy for a while as this cleans out. And then suddenly, very slowly, more of the pristine water is going to take the place of the mud. And now suddenly, the glass is, you know, a different state. It's a different energy state. And so hand in hand that's very much what's happening right now. There is a huge influx of light outside from assistance. There's a huge influx of light coming from outside from within us you know pushing outside and you mentioned the ignition of the core of the earth. There's a huge ignition that is sequentially bumping up from the center of the earth. So we are emitting brighter. The center of the earth is emitting brighter. So is the sun and so is the galactic core. There's multitudes of these things that are really stepping up together in a very particular balanced way. And so this is what's happening. And so the effect of you know coming back to them I just wanted to introduce that because I it was really necessary for people to get a a good grounding and and why this is going on that because of the earth experience and how humanity is lived by projecting all of this lack and suffering and all this other stuff. those imprinted energy or or or should we say these those energies that have been qualified in that way as we emit them they will go into the earth crust they will go into the environment they will go into surrounding things like you know uh matter around you could be your house your car anything like that it all builds up and particularly in the earth itself so over millennia and millennia pockets of this densified sort of let's call it um uh disharmoniously qualified energies that have been emitted. I know it sounds a bit of a blah mouthful, but it's like, you know, it's kind of quite a descriptive. So, as that builds up, it basically started to down down the energetic bandwidth that the earth was in. So instead of being at a what people call the fifth density or fifth dimension is a whole slew of words to describe it but basically a higher vibrational bandwidth of experience suddenly it was getting anchored down down down down down to a very densified experience with all of the buildup. Um, little bit like a storage if you like a capacitor storing electrical charge. It just got worse and worse and worse. But since this ascension process was kicked off, suddenly all that was starting to break down, lift up, be thrown off. And again with the analogy of the cup of mud, it suddenly water was coming in and slowly the mud was oozing out. You know, all sorts of scuffles, conflicts were manifesting on the earth as this mud oozed itself out. And then it's accelerating now. So the mud is really being oozed out at quite a significant rate now. And so that's what's happening. So this really is in in a positive way an indicator of the shifting out of the old in a very fast and rapid way. And so the teams have been very clear, you know, try not to focus on external events as if, oh my god, it's all falling to pieces. What's that? It's not. It really isn't. Um, this is the the very necessary outpouring of millennia upon millennia of old dross mud misqualified energies all built up. It's all being broken down and and cleared out to make way for the the move into higher bandwidth of experience. Okay? So it's like anything if a wall's in the way the wall's got to come out of the way for you to move forward. And in the same sense this has to come out of the way in order for us to move forward. And it is. And it's doing so at a very fast rate.
And so again, sorry, I'm just again a little bit more um background there. So the ignition at the core of the earth was quite a spectacular one because they began the meditation with first offering a sort of gift to people to lift off a significant amount of builtup suffering energetic within uh people themselves that they had been storing and exactly at the level and in a way that their particular higher selves um would wish. And that's a very important thing because throughout all this energy work, your higher self knows you inside and out. Every cell, every atom of your body, it knows exactly where you are, what your life path is, and what the best most optimum thing at any given time would be for you. So these are always run by the higher self. And so each individual experience is very different from the other sometimes, sometimes very much so, sometimes just slightly. Um, but so that's uh what took place. And we've had a lot of feedback from people just feeling this huge cloud that just got lifted off them. And it's stuff that they don't necessarily need to work through. It's stuff that just got lifted off. It's like, you just don't need that anymore. Why keep it? It's like having a house full of clutter that's just built up over an entire lifetime of stuff you never use. You don't need it. It's just causing clutter in space and it's it's causing issues. So, just get rid of it. Um and so that's what happened in in the first stage. Um and then the second stage was and I'll sorry I'll get to your question of the core in a second just sort of going through the how the meditation unfolded. Um was that there was um a significant amount of removal from the earth itself of this accumulated dross and specific energetics that were put in place over a certain time periods to harvest that as well. That's a very important thing to understand you know because certain groups you know thrive and work on certain energy types and you know and this is part of humanity's waking up to realize be be aware of the energies you give off because if so long as you give off you know um the pure unfiltered ones you know where you're really giving off you know um thrivingness uh joy abundance you know kindness compassion all that good stuff that's not of use to certain groups at let's and let's just sort of every I'm sure everybody knows what I mean by that. Um and it's it's not a battery source for them. They can't do anything with that. In fact, it dissolves everything they're doing away. So, um anyway, so that got removed. Um and then in the last part with what you what you mentioned about the core ignition. Now, I had this experience some time ago with these very deep inner earth beings that seem to be acting as symbiotic um not c they were kind of guardians. Guardians kind of feels like the wrong word. They were working symbiotically with the earth's core to help the process along um and do a whole bunch of other things as well at the same time. That in itself is a discussion. Um but they were there during that meditation as people were descending down to the core and asked to go into the very center of the earth. And then there was this very particular uh energetic gift that was given to allow people to have a much stronger much clearer grounding connection with the earth. And what that does among many other things is that it allows people to stabilize in the ascension process because the earth is a very very advanced and evolved being. And by really connecting grounding in a in that very strong way to Gia, I've had so many people just say how stable they feel after this like energetically the agitation disappears all that kind of thing. And I believe a very strong component of that is when you have that that very very strong clear symbiosis with the earth, a very strong ground connection. Suddenly the stability of your ride up into the higher vibrational bandwidths or realms, whatever you want to call them, becomes so much easier, much more stable. You almost just ride the wave effortlessly. Um, and so that was given and then an ignition took place. So, which is coming to your question, a long way round to get to it, but um so yeah, it was it was awesome because what they what they had everybody do was ride the surface wave or the wave packet that came out of the center as it expanded and fill the interior of the membrane which I spoke of at the beginning. And what it means is that the interior of the earth is becoming more acclimated to the core living intelligence in the the center of the earth. You know because take a human form for example as analogy. You know at the very core of your heart is that magnificent source uh that infinity point your sacred heart that source connection. And now our job in as part of this ascension process is to allow that to really emanate, open up and allow that to flood our entire being and go through this transformational process as it does so. And the earth is doing the same. And so this ignition from the core of the earth as this wave came out was one such wave of the earth. So it was a real uplifting, a real push forward if you like or a real jump forward is a better word of the physical vessel of the earth, the atmosphere itself and and just the entire symbiotic biome if you like of the of the earth experience. So it was really really powerful and for me I I generally feel these waves of energies quite strongly. But afterwards when um the meditation finished and I wondered if the teams had any more words or anything to add to the meditation afterwards. Uh w the energy was so overwhelming. I mean, you know, I was holding back my tears and, you know, because and they were tears of joy as as, you know, it wasn't like, oh my goodness, you know, it was there was the energy that was being transmitted and it had just been given from this transformational process um was so strong. Um I it took me a number of minutes and you know, you you were on that meditation and you you you saw what happened. It took me a while to stabilize and but it was just so joyful because these bursts of laughter of how um how what the teams were seeing after it had had been done the sheer transformational impact it was having and this was such a group effort and I say to people afterwards this is you know don't think this is me doing it we're all doing this together you know and it's this whole group facilitation and activation movement forward um and it was so beautiful um and the upliftment and the expansion that people have felt this we've had so many um uh comments from different people in feedbacks talking about just what a massive shift it had been for them and how they're starting to see things in a very different light. And that's the key. You see this is all about and we talked about this in the in before we we hopped on in recording is that there's the most important thing anybody can do is to connect within. Keep connecting the bridge opening up getting to know who you really are as a source higher self being that part of which is dipped into a physical human body and really get to know the just the energetic magnificence of who you are. You know, because I and I've done this in my in my uh early years and there's a lot of people who and I always discourage when they look up to, oh wow, you're this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You have the same. You know, if you're looking at me and putting me on a pedestal, you're not honoring or looking inside to what is there. You have it. And what you what you are trying to rever me is already in you. So go inside, look inside because and that's that is part of the difficulty of the human um experience as I see it because we have been trained for since birth over a lifetime over a lifetime look outside everything's outside all external no no um I would always encourage people go inside once you fully uh open and activate here everything reflects very quickly outside you know the outside is a onetoone one reflection of the emission you give off from with inside and you have complete power to change alter add to however you emit like that and it's such a simple but very powerful uh message it is always inside always always never be any different.
>> Yes.
>> You know, that's the way to do it. So, so we could see you were very overwhelmed at the
>> Yeah. And actually if you wouldn't mind I I can feel that my higher self and team sort of asking to add something here which is that um the one of the difficulties I found in my earlier years and this is just some help for people out there who are listening um to just share my experience that it might be helpful for them in the same way um is that I I found a lot of difficulty going inside because to go in is is to often encounter the layers of the mud that you have to go through in order to get, you know, to the very core. And my teams were often saying, don't be discouraged when you go in and you don't either feel anything or what you feel is not so nice because that is a very important stage of the unlifting of the stuff that the layers that are going to come off to reveal the deeper more of you. And I think that I found from my experience that was often a case of that made me sort of turn away from going inside, you know, and going back to outward focus too much. And I do see that a lot within people's comments sometimes and the way people talk. And I think that's a very important message to bring across that it it is okay. You know, you're going to just go through the layers. You're going to encounter them and that's necessary. It's important for you to become aware of them so that they can release, you know, and clear from you. And the more you do that, you know, it's you're going to go deeper and deeper and deeper into the core and you're going to find what it is that you're looking for. So I think that's a very very important message of encouragement for sure.
>> Yeah. So, do you feel David because I remember when the first um surge started that you were talking about earlier in this video because I remember distinctly it was December the 4th because there was a very powerful full moon that day which you weren't aware of. I thought so. Um, but you talked about a series of waves in 2026 evolutionary waves.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes.
>> So I'd love to ask you more about those and because astrologically I mean if we're looking at you know from tomorrow onwards the the equinox the the rest of March and April I mean April April is just off the map in terms of a surge of incredibly dynamic powerful sovereign vigorous inner authority um energy coming through.
>> Yes.
>> So do you feel that there is another surge of energy coming up imminently kind of late March, April and is it I if if you do feel that is it of the same quality as what you have just experienced with that meditation last Sunday or is this something different?
>> Well, it's interesting because um you know my higher self and the teams and to make clear to people um you know I have a very strong connection that I've cultivated with my higher self and so the teams talk via my higher self. So I can, you know, I get information quite quickly. And it's interesting as you're saying that, they were smiling and uh they were saying there's quite a few waves coming. And yes, it is very similar to what you just described there. And they're saying in terms of the qualities, the qualities are specific steps to move people towards this inner opening, this inner balance, this inner living. And it reminds me of what the Arcturian said a long time ago because um uh sorry for people who are hearing this as a repeat but for for the people hearing this for the first time. So I was developing a coil system. The Arcturans are incredibly involved beings very advanced. I mean galactically renowned uh energetic techn living energetic technology not technologies as we have them. That's what I call kind of dead technology. This is living energy technology. Totally different um you know ballpark. Um, but they're also incredibly heart-c centered and and it's interesting because I had become accustomed to seeing them as very adept scientifically or or living energetically scientifically. And um when I was getting a little bit sort of frustrated and I I was trying to understand the mental ins and outs of this coil system, they said, "No, no, no. You're getting stuck because you're trying to do this all mentally. What you're going to understand is there is a world of difference between living as a heart-c centered being within your heart intelligence uh compared to living as a mind centered being from your intellectual intelligence very different and that really blew me away because the thought wow I did not expect that you know that was really left field and so coming back to what you were saying uh reason why I wanted to say that is because that these waves that are coming through are okay the words initiation is is kind of sort of coming forward but it's really a reminding in a way of you are a you you are principally a heart intelligent being a heart-c centered intelligent being you have faculties like the intellect like a physical body like senses all sorts of other kit that come with your experience but your core is your heart intelligence that is the the real elegant, beautiful, compassionate power center of pure intelligence of where you come from. That's that's that's that's there. And so there is this they've spoken about before about this um stepbystep adjustment of being head centric a race of head centrics say like head head cases um to being um heart centered where the the mind itself becomes a beautiful extension of your heart intelligence. So instead of just flapping around by itself it is now an immaculate instrument and extension like a finger on the hand. you know uh it flows from the hand it's together with the hand it's not acting separately you know it is that a new paradigm of symbiosis from within all extending from within and so these waves as you as you asked about you know the waves coming forward are feel to me and they're not giving me too much detail and they do this specifically because they do like people to have the experience of it because the trouble with having too much mental or sort of frontloading or precognition is that you have expectations now of what's coming. And what that causes people to do is now you're locked into what you're expecting to see and then you don't have the full experience of it because now you're you're you know this is what you want to see. You know sometimes it's very strong like that sometimes it's not. So they do leave quite a deal of that for people to experience and then they say afterwards how did that how was that? You know, how was that right of the way for you? Um, but the quality of it they're saying is very much a part of this shifting jumping forward towards these new paradigms getting people settled and used to being more uh in in the core center being a heart-c centered being with other faculties realigning and symbiotically um you know coming into let's say alignment with with your your heart-c centered intelligence. So it's that's the way it's moving and at the same time similar is happening in slightly different ways within the earth. So her body is is adjusting to these ups if you like in her core in a very similar way. And so there are adjustments to the inv the atmosphere, there are adjustments to the mantles, there are adjustments to the interior. It's all going together definitely. So yes, they're saying very much what you described. There's another series of three important waves coming from the equinox. One on the equinox and then another two afterwards. So,
>> wow, that's really interesting because, you know, the equinox is tomorrow and I've used the word um ignition and initiation and then very strong in April and we reach a kind of climax in July as well. A really big month. Um, so yeah, I don't know how I'm going to approach all that. But you also in that live stream, David, after the meditation, you talked about the energetics between continents.
>> Yes,
>> I'd love to to understand more of what you meant by that.
>> Yeah, I that was a a newbie for me as well. I I you know when that came through um I sort of after the meditation finished I thought wow what what you know cuz you could feel the energies and what they were what were they sort of saying was that okay so my highest self there's anything you want to add here you can um okay so my high self's just motioning to to let it flow so the image that I saw as it was coming through is that had been this sort of almost sort of veiling energetic between continents in certain ways. And they're saying that's very much an artifact of in part um the sense of separation that collective groups of humanity had had within certain regions on certain continents and those kinds of things. And they're saying this ignition actually started to break down that veiling. And now instead of there being sort of different people from different cultures on different you know whatevers the separation or the separativeness ideas consciousness whatever you want to call it um was starting to adjust and now they were connecting together almost like if you can imagine neighboring flowers with their petals starting to reach and then conduct energy to each other across. And so there was this interconnectivity of flow between and I feel there's this beautiful synergization this balance that's going on between what we call the the plates or the continents on the surface level that's very very important. Now I think there's pardon me there's going to be more information coming that coming on that in in time but yeah there um so my highest self is smiling they're saying um yeah this is going to be a very significant thing moving forward and but you'll feel it in the effect of the the warmth you're going to start to feel more so to people in other countries in other cultures those kind of things you know and you know a lot of the um let's just say a lot of the uh more um lower more negative aspects of certain cultures I believe are going to start to dissolve away you know so people will start to realize that their their more truth of their core nature not themselves as um their you know the culture that they've you know endeared themselves to be of or the country they've endeared themselves to be of or you know those kind of things I feel like there's softening and a dissolving away so that people can re can realize the commonality of um source love intelligence that emits from all of us there. There aren't those barriers of continents, culture, um society, whatever you want to call it, that they're starting to erode away. And they're saying that's very much at the heart of what was happening with that that part of it.
>> Wonderful. And I'd also love to ask you also if there's any update on three Atlas because that had its closest flyby to Jupiter just three days ago and I know you felt that it was a being of higher consciousness that was helping our evolution and the evolution of the earth. So if there's anything else you can share about the gifts that that has bestowed on us, David, I I'd love to hear them and I I know every one of them.
>> Yeah. Uh so the teams are saying they don't have anything to add on that right now. Um, but they will say that um they have said before there there are many other objects like it
>> um which are not known at this time to the population and they serve many different purposes. They're saying um um but they're saying one thing they would love to consider what's happening is also they've talked about a membrane around the entire solar system because they're saying in a very similar way and and it's it reminds me because they did talk about the music of the spheres before and these membranes feel like because they've spoken you know I think we did a chat a while ago and they were talking about the membranes um so I definitely encourage rather than taking too much time in this, you know, anybody who's watching this to go back and watch that one and and understand more about the membranes.
>> flow with all the links.
>> Yes. Yes, definitely. Um, but nested membranes have these interiors where the energetic physics can be very different inside one membrane and another membrane can be nested another which has another interior of different energy physics. And it feels like the solar system, planetary systems, all the way down to atoms and everything membranes seem to be incredibly fundamental to the makeup of reality. and many different um aspects within the solar system and externally and the ignition that's happening within the the the star itself are all adding in different ways and levels to this uh sort of re what's the word uh to use my higher self here. It's a rein Yeah. reinfusion. They're saying, of the source living energetic to bring these these systems that were once part of this game of free will that were veering down into density to reinfuse them, reinvigorate them and rein this is the word they're using. En reenthrive. I've never heard that word before. Reenthrive. So cuz they're saying if you think about it or if you feel on it however you wish to source energetic is a thriving lifebiased intelligence. It lifts up everything no matter what it is. And that's the very nature of it. It doesn't uh disown or um abandon anything. It's it's all part of itself uplifting pocket pockets of itself which have elected to go through different experiences. Um and so in which way you know sometimes you know an experience can be cultivated like we've been through with this free will human experience where things have gone you know quite far off one way you know and now they're being brought back and the level of the intelligence I remember somebody saying I think it was I did a um a chat with Michael Salah and he asked this question because you know lots of different people are saying some people are a bit more doom and gloom about what they're saying and there's a whole mixed bag of people saying different things basically And when I asked the question cuz he was um a little bit concerned about some of the things he's being hearing, my team said essentially there is absolutely nothing to worry about. This is being handled by beings in intelligences that are so far beyond so unimaginable to sort of the lower energetic groups that are trying to do XY Z that it really isn't even it's it's not even a game. It's, you know, so you know that this whole scenario of doom and gloom. No, I'm sorry. It's not at all. Not at all. Um, what we're experiencing is the outpouring of the stuff that we have inadvertently created or created by choice. It could be a mix of things that has brought this down and it's being effortlessly broken away at a rate so that we can, you know, handle it. Okay. They could just blitz this stuff off and get rid of it. But the jump in stabilization from here to where we would be if it was instantly cleared would be a rapid massive ask you know even for people who are very adept at you know uh holding energies. So it has to be done in a certain way and everyone is considered in this whole process you know so they're always monitoring always looking out for things. So I'd say to everyone always go inside and feel the trust, not the hope, the trust. Hope is like, oh, I really hope everything's going to work out, you know, whereas trust is I know things are going to work out because I can. The source intelligence within me is saying everything is okay. It's fine. You know, you're simply walking the path where all of the yucky pebbles, all of the the yucky scenery you don't like is being dissolved away and a new path is being created in front of you and you're just witnessing the the the removal of the old and the refusion of the new. That's what you're witnessing. So, yeah, definitely.
>> It's it's very interesting because clearly there's an awful lot happening in the world. And so my my question Dave wasn't going to be so much in terms of any potential perpetrators of doom and gloom but rather our collective and individual perception because some
>> you know particularly since your meditation I mean I'm feeling super peaceful and steady.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> I I was before but other people are are sort of in the you know oh my god you know
>> And and very caught up in the fear. So it isn't so much the perpetrators, it's the the people who
>> Yes. Yes. Yes.
>> victim to what's going on. You know what's going to happen to the price?
>> Yes. And and food and with oil etc. So is it that for a a temporary period there will be a dimensional split until we come back together? You know the analogy I've often used is we're all at an airport. Some people have chosen fast track, others slow track,
>> right?
>> On the unity consciousness plane at the end of the day. So, it's a it's temporary dimensional split. Is that how you see it? Right now,
>> the analogy that they're showing me is imagine a one of those old school radios. You know, you dial up and you dial down and you get to different frequencies.
>> And you still have Yeah, I remember those. Is it? And um yeah, they're saying it's where do you choose to align your frequency, your core frequency and what is frequency but the oscillation of energy, you know, or an oscillation of something which in itself is an energy. And so as a human being, we have a vast array of frequencies. You might call it a bandwidth of frequencies that we operate in. And you're very correct because there's a lot of emphasis on who's doing what, but that doesn't matter in truth. It really doesn't. And and I'm glad you brought that up because I say to people, well, if it really was about some other group doing things, why haven't they just come full out on the open and just done whatever they want to do?
>> Polished us all. Yeah.
>> Yes. So, the truth is, uh, it's all a game of manipulation. How do you trick people into holding a low energy state rather than a high energy state through all sorts of means, you know, from things you watch, things you hear, all sorts of other things. And if you understand that concept, which I'm sure you know your your um your listeners will be um you know on queue on um is that you will understand that it's all a game to vive for um making you be in a particular state. And so once you understand that and then you turn to go inwards and the mastery of your energy state, you can turn that dial wherever you want to. You can go up, you can go down. And so this is what it's about. It's about the learning process of everybody learning to say, "Hold on a second." Okay? It's got nothing to do with anything outside of you. Even though that you're seeing the outplay in the events outside of you, it's all to do with inside of you. And you have the ability to turn that dial up. You have the ability to release certain segments of frequency bands holding in your energy field which are dragging that turn dial down towards the lower part. And when you release them, back it goes up again. You have complete mastery over that. Nothing upon nothing can get in your way of that except yourself. You can fool yourself into thinking you don't have that ability. You can fool yourself into thinking others have this fictitious control over you, which they don't. You know, it al it ultimately comes back to that. Again, I'm so glad you raised that point because it's such a key one. It really is. You know, and I think that's where a lot of people get themselves so worked up over things because and and myself included. I'm no problem in telling people in the past, you know, I've I've gotten a bit riled up over things and then my teams have come in and say, well, what power do they have over you really? You know, and um oh yeah, actually no, it's you know, and uh when you go through the process, you realize that they're saying right now you have been triggered by something. understand the energy bands inside you which got triggered. Now you know they're there. You can see them. Now you can release them. It won't affect you in the same way again. And the more you do that process of, you know, something happens, you have a reaction. Oh, okay. I've got that energy inside me. Clear the energy. Now you won't react the same way. You are literally autonomously turning the dial up without even knowing it by doing that because you're uh taking off the coat layers of lower frequency and you're putting on instead or inviting in to replace it higher energy ones that are going to take you up and up and up and up and up quite naturally quite you know quite
quite automatically. So, yeah, I I very much agree with what you said there. Totally.
>> Sort of training for our mastery. That's how I often talk. Yes.
>> Training for our mastery because if we didn't have those triggers, um, then we wouldn't learn it. So it's it's almost like the the crazier, the more chaotic, and the louder things get out there, the quieter I try and get in here. Because that's the antidote, isn't it? That's the antidote to all of that because it's only in here that matters. Nothing else matters at the end of the day.
That's true. Yes. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Did I interrupt you? I was just speaking.
>> No, I don't. No. No.
>> Um, and it's another important thing because my my high self is reminding me um that um what we're here to do is to learn to uh Sorry if my chair's creaking. I'm a bit of a creaky chair. So, if you hear those noises again, um, yeah, what we're here to do is to understand how to um Okay, what's the word um or the phrase? Um, well, they're just saying quite simply how to learn to to change your dial as you wish. And they're saying a lot of beings have such a depth mastery of that they can appear in front of you, disappear because they can they can turn it up, they can turn it down very quickly. And by doing so, you become um the master of your reality because you now choose the broadcast that you're giving off. You don't just endure it like a broadcast of suffering or lack or inability or can't do, etc. So it really is all a fundamental question of what are you broadcasting? Do you want to continue to do that or do you want to change it? And learning how to go inside and clear the energies that are broadcasting what you don't want and replacing them. You know, the way I do it is replace it with the higher self energetic. So now you're becoming more of your higher self. You're broadcasting as your higher self would do and you're making those sequential jumps towards becoming a fully embodied higher self in a human form. And so, yeah, that's and by doing so, they're saying because as you move into the higher bands, the the pace or the apparency of how quickly outer reality bends to your sudden change in frequency will become quicker and quicker and quicker. So these layers or these levels that we're in these these schools of what what you might call schools of hard knocks or you know, very intense training as as you call it um are designed to help you help people really become aware outwardly of what you're projecting from the inside so you can clear it all out. Learn to stabilize because when you move into the higher bands, you know, you'll the um a necessity of quite a um a comfortable um mastery of of where your what your state is, your energy state is is is quite important so that you you create exactly the reality you want. You don't sudden accidentally flop down or do something like that. So they're saying there's a process of learning an an adept stability from within that is going on which is very, very important as well.
Yeah >> Really, I really get that. And David, really, is a final question. I mean, astrologically um 18 months or so ago, I made a video called the big picture because I was looking at a a very particular and unique configuration astrologically from 2025 to 2027. 2025 in numerology was a nine year. It was an ending year. It was the year of the woods snake which ended on February the 17th this year. This is a one year um, you know, 2 plus 2 plus 6 is a one year, they call a 101. So it's a it's a new beginning and we've entered the year of the fire horse on in Chinese astrology on 17th February. So got a very different quality. And then because by the 26th of April, all of the outer planets will have changed signs. It's very unusual for all of the outer planets to change signs between in an 18-month period between November 24 and April 26. And that it seems to settle a little as we get into 2027. So I'm seeing astrologically, I'm seeing 2026 as the big year of transition and change. You a lot of a lot of change, a lot of speed and then it begins to settle a little next year. Would you energetically, would you agree with that?
>> Yes. Yeah. My my higher self is saying that this is very much so the case. Yeah. 2026 is a year of vast change and rapid jumping. 2027 is they're saying is is more of a year of um um stabilization and uh learning to settle with they're saying certain truths that are come coming forward and they're going to be revealings and they're saying one thing they would like to add is that these revealings are really designed to help people um okay, so can you phrase that a little different way my higher self um trying to find it's more of a sensation that I'm given. I'm trying to find the words to describe it to you. Um, okay. Let's Okay, I understand now. So, what's being said is that uh there are going to be inner paradigm shifts within people's own um mindset, outlook, fundamental beliefs, all those kind of things. They're saying many things that people thought were true are going to be challenged. Many things that people thought were, you know, no, this is the way it is are going to be challenged and rocked, you know, and sometimes depending on how much people hold on to that that belief system or not depends on how difficult it will appear to be when these these truths and these these um uh you know, these openings start coming forward. And so they're really saying the more relaxed and fun and the less gripping onto you know, on anything because they're saying grip is really not your friend. You know, it doesn't help you. It holds on by definition and it will anchor you and it will hold you to a concept. It will hold you to a paradigm. It will hold you to an event. It will hold you to all sorts of things. And the more you can just relax, loosen up, let go, let things just, you know, um, filter through, evolve, and expand, the easier this will be. And they're saying the more people can practice and cultivate that just being fun, just being playful, just being loose and you know, no, you know, and notice the tension and the grip. And they're saying this is that's the big um paradigm if you like in what people call ascension, you know, ascension stuff going on is that my my teams have told me many times they said, "Well, what you're feeling now this uh is your resistance. you're resisting letting this go because you are holding on to it. Why are you holding on to it? It's not you." Um, and so this is something which I would encourage people to to be thoughtful of or or aware of is is you know, if you're having resistance, why are you resisting to let go? What is it what do you fear to let go of? What do you fear will happen? And can you let go of that fear so that you can trust in your higher self that at every moment you are being supported, protected, and everything is okay. You're not being left by yourself. You're not you're not being left on the roadside. You are always always on, you know, within the realm of your higher self whether you whether you realize that or not. And it really is our grip and our pressure and our force to keep things in a certain way or no this must not change or no this this is the truth I will not that grip that that massive amount of force we sometimes apply is what actually gets us into the trouble that we actually get ourselves into, you know, and when you relax and flow, it's a different story altogether. Definitely.
>> Really good advice because that grip feels very third-dimensional.
>> Oh, yes. Oh, yes.
>> Attractive. Um,
>> Well, there's a good um uh yes. Sorry if I interrupted you there, but there's a good um phrase or or a theme that was spoken to me a while ago is that whatever it is you can hold on to is not you. Once you have fully let go, that's you.
>> Wow. Wow. That's quite profound. But yes, really. Yes, it it is because they're saying you can't hold on to the real you. You can hold on to artifacts. You can hold on to concepts that are, you know, ideas, memes, physical things you can physically grip, but you cannot grip the real you. And so, whatever you can let go of is not really you. Um, and so that is the state we're moving into. It's a complete letting go of everything so that you can actually become the real you. You know, it's it can when you think about it, it's so opposite to the way we have been taught as 3D beings. Get into the world, get out there, grip your career, do this. You know, it's it's like layers upon layers of planning and gripping and control and everything else. And everybody inevitably gets up in all sorts of muddles and trouble because of that because you are now it's it's like putting dams in place. You know, the river just will flow and it will it will sort itself out perfectly well. It's intelligent living system. You then know you're not flowing that way. You're going to go this way. You put a wall in the Yes. Exactly. You know, and eventually the water is just going to blast through that dam you put in place. You know,
>> the winds every time. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And you know, that's the nature of living intelligent energies. They they simply wish to flow. Don't hold them up. Don't put blocks in the way. Just you know, you will and that is another paradigm they're saying that's one of the big things for the for human beings too to consider is that it's fear that causes us to grip. It's fear that causes us to hold on and put things in the way. That's what we're unraveling. You know, fear is is almost you know, the the manifestation of fear is the gripping and the control and everything else. And they're saying as you move more into your heart intelligence and the trust, you know, it's interesting. I heard a phrase once saying hope has a hole in it but trust has you in it and uh, you know, which you know, whatever way you want to take that, it's quite it's a very um poignant phrase and to me what it says is that when you relax into you and you let go, you suddenly realize your higher self is right there. It is, you know, um, and it is intelligently organizing things for you. But where it it it gets held up is because it honors your free will. It's where you choose to use your free will to put up roadblocks, to put up walls, to put up control, restriction, bottlenecking, whatever you want to call it, because now it's got to work through that and it will break them down, but it's going to, you know, it's going to work in alignment with your free will as well. So, yeah, it's it really is about that. And um, it's very interesting because I I for anybody who wants a bit of contrast into that um, I put a video of myself up um in a documentary series I took back a part back in 200 uh five or six, I think it was. if anybody wants a bit of a giggle to to look at how I was then before I really started this work and now, you know, it's a it it's a completely different paradigm, a completely different energy and I say that in the means to just say that by continuing the work of what my teams have encouraged me to do, which is to let go, be very honest with yourself, you know, there's nothing to be afraid of admitting anything. So I always say to people, if I have something in the past, I'm happy to share that because it's helpful to other people, you know. Um, it it is what it is, you know. Uh, but your truth, your real truth is your core. And that has none of this stuff that you're learning to let go of. And so by being honest with yourself, you allow yourself to access something that you may have otherwise denied because denial is a free will choice to push it down, put the clamps on, hold it down, keep it in the cupboard, don't look at it again. You know, whereas being honest with yourself is saying, "Okay, it's time this came out. Open it up." Right? This needs a good clear out. Right? There you go. Because me, you know, there is no judgment of any kind from your higher self, source self. Not at all. It's it delights in your process of learning. It delights in you returning to your source self. And it already knows all the nooks and crannies about you, you know, and is very happy when you find them and you are honest about about it with yourself and you can finally release it because it's almost like a sigh of relief. Ah, there you go. Another packet of suffering you've just sent on its way, you know, well done. You know, it's just like that. Um, and as human beings, we we we you know, cuz oh, what if they find out this or what? It's like it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. Self honesty is such a big key I find in this. It really is.
>> It's It's almost like we're dropping baggage to move closer to the light body.
>> Yes. We're dropping the weights. It's like a ship is not going to sail off into the ocean sunset if it's still anchored to where it is. You know, it's dropping the weights. Definitely.
>> And is there any final message you'd like to share, David, before we close? This has been wonderful.
>> Yeah, for sure. All right. So, we spoke before the in uh the interview, the recorded section um that I tuned in beforehand and asked if the teams or the infinite source intelligence wanted to give a message and they said not a message as such like a channel message. What they would love to consider people doing is really because what they see at this time more than ever is lots of people getting really confuled and you know all caught up in all the events that are going on and you know really needing something to hold on to to for hope and oh, is it going to be okay? Is it going to be okay? And that's an understandable human uh human nature. Um, but what they're saying is what they really would love to encourage people to do is to go back within. You see, think of all the masters that you might have heard of or might have worked with or called on or the the archangels, angels, whoever it is that you work with. They have this immense connection with their source presence inside. They are never engaged or tangled up. They see everything. They see more of the uglier truths than any human could possibly even see. They are at peace. They don't get upset about these things. Yes, there's a movement to make positive change, but they don't get embroiled in it and all riled up because they know in their core everything is okay. Everything is moving as it should do. And so there is a an ask for people to consider that coming back into yourself, getting to know yourself as your source intelligence. Changing your emission is in fact changing the timelines. It is changing how everything takes place outside of you. Getting wrapped up in all sorts of things outside of you doesn't do that. It re-empowers it because you focus on an energy, you give it energy, you store the energy in it, and now you've given it more battery life. Basically, in one way of speaking,
>> You're attached to it as well.
>> Yes. You're attached to it. Yes. Yes. You're propping it up basically. So they're saying that the most beneficial thing that anyone can do is go inside, find that peace, learn to be in, sit in and live in the energy of your higher self, your source self. And for anybody who's new to this work, um, on the Patreon site, which I'm sure you'll put the link down below, there's two free meditations, number 14 and 15, which is the beginning of the opening of the, uh, sacred heart and the infinity point, which is your direct connection to source intelligence itself. If you just practice those or even find your own version that you feel happy with if you know if that's what you want to do, but just connect with the source self inside and just, you know, if you wish to make that a daily practice when you get up before you go to sleep, you know, can even ask your higher self to put you in a cocoon or a membrane that will hold that energy while you sleep around you. um all that assistance is is there, but to keep understanding and reminding yourself that you are not a feather being blown around in the winds of the external. Uh, you are a master creator that emits energy and it's the quality of energy that you admit that determines your experience and the collective experience as well.
>> So it's not about what's going on out there. It's all about what's going on in here. and what filters do you have in the way that are causing ruckuses or things to go wrong and to un your higher self will work with you to understand what they are and help you break it down and clear it clear it away very fast and that's what my experience has been. So they're saying that really is their message for today um for people to do because they're saying there is a an enormous paradigm shift taking place. Now they're saying in the old paradigm of human beingness, the it was all about out of focus and and there were necessary steps in place in spiritual circles to help people understand certain things, but it a lot of it was geared towards you know, external uh viewing and so forth. They're saying you're now moving into a brand new paradigm where it is all about the internal. And they're saying don't be afraid to let go of all paradigms that are no longer working for you because you will jump. You will move paradigms and eventually you're going to come completely in your center where it's, you know, you are completely sovereign. You are self-running. You are self-determining. You determine the vibration that you emit, the quality of the the light you emit and how you shape your reality. And they're saying this is how these beings such as the masters, that's what the master part refers to. That's what they have done. They have come within. They are fully operating from within. They don't get embroiled with the external. They learn how to change themselves in order to change the external. They don't grapple and fight and wrestle with the external. They know because it all comes from whatever reality they're in. It comes from within. And they can change the dial up, they can change the dial down, whichever way they want to. That is the mastery that we're moving into. So, and they're saying just as a last message that many people are going to and are already feeling they're saying many people who are listening to this now will already being feel feeling like there is a need to perhaps change from what they're currently doing, whatever that I don't know what that is, that's just the words they're giving and moving into something new. They're saying just enjoy the experience that don't be afraid because that is a an inner request from your inner self to say, okay, you you no longer need this. you need to move into something new because you're getting closer and closer to yourself now. And so the number of external um paradigms um uh let's call them I don't constructs courses, whatever you want to call them, although they've they've served great purpose for what they've done, you now moving beyond them and you're moving closer towards your own core so you live completely and entirely from there. So they're saying that's the paradigm that humanity is moving into. And they're saying you are right. Some people are moving in different ways. Some people because of the nature of what they've selected to go through that the density, you know, appear to be going a little bit slower. Not it's not really so much slower. It's more that they've they've opted to take on a great deal of heavy stuff. So it's there's a bit more to release than say somebody else. Um, so yeah, and they're saying once again, um, feel into your core and ask your core the question, how are things going? They're saying you're going to be very surprised by the answer that you get because the answer is perfectly okay.
>> That's a brilliant point to end on, David. Absolutely brilliant. And you know, what you've been saying these last few minutes is just music to my ears because you're saying things that I'm saying in the videos, but using slightly different language. You know, I know it will help people particularly at the moment when things are a bit crazy in the outside world. I I know it will help.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Definitely. To anyone, I just relax and you know, I I don't watch anything of the news. That's a whole new thing on itself. But it's it's just be aware of anything that you're listening to or any paradigm or any information anybody's giving to you that makes your your dial turn down. and then you know, make an informed choice to decide what you want to do. Do you want to dial back up and just let that pass by or you know, again, it's all part of the mastery of being the real you and what energy you choose to hold and therefore emit.
>> Beautiful. Thank you so much David for gifting us with your presence and your and your wisdom. You know, I always love these conversations and I know it just they help people so much particularly in times of very fast moving transition when you almost feel the ground is shifting too quickly under your feet and you're losing foundations and a lot is changing in your own life perhaps and so I know people will find that really reassuring and really stabilizing. So, uh,
>> Yeah, definitely.
>> for you in the world, David. And, uh, I hope out there enjoyed it as much as, um, as as I certainly did, and I hope David did too.
>> Yeah. I I I I just love having, like you say, you know, interviews with you and friendly chats off off record. It just, you know, you're a a beautiful soul, uh, Pam, and I'm I'm so thankful that we are good friends now. and uh, you know, we have this uh, this uh friendship and it's um, you know, I can't thank you enough uh for your kind words and just, you know, the work that that you do as well because, you know, um, I I do read some of the comments that come through um, you know, when these videos get released and there's such a there's such a a love and an admiration for you and what you do. So, and I think that's absolutely well-founded. They're a good lot. Yeah. Loving community and I'm, you know, so blessed that uh they enjoy my work and they enjoy yours. So, um, and I hope everybody out there loved it and uh, I'm sure David and I will be in conversation very soon again in this very big year of 2026. So, so thank you, David, and lots of love and goodbye to everybody.
>> Yeah. Lots of love to you all.
>> Bye.