香港舊時嘅城市傳聞

Welcome, everyone. We are very happy to have you here today. Hello, viewers, everyone. Today, actually, two weeks ago, I was talking with Ah Lik Wah and we said, "Hey, let's talk about old Hong Kong urban legends." I really like the styling. It matches the 80s. I'm not saying it's good to watch, it's good to watch, yes [laughter]. You're wearing a hat, you look younger. That's great, that's too good, that's too good. Yes, isn't it? Let's ask the audience, is it true? It's not just me talking. And I, when I used to go back to the mountains, I used to wear these things, but later I realized that wearing these things out on the streets in Hong Kong is a bit much. [Laughter] Why is that? I don't think so. Why don't we see such, you know, so prominent, so special styling? They would think, "What are you doing?" Actually, back then, people who did such styling when they were younger weren't very popular, so later on, it just wasn't that big. Later, it became like tourists. [Laughter] It's all Japanese people. If you go out in Japanese, it's definitely Japanese. [Laughter] Yes. Let me finish what I was saying. So I thought, "Hey, there are rumors." And you said, "Okay, okay, okay." Actually, I didn't tell you why I wanted to do this topic. Why? Because I have a little bit, I don't want to say, but I think it's an unexpected situation. That is, about two months ago. So I was looking at things. You know, nowadays, the first thing everyone does when they wake up is to scroll. [Laughter] That's right, it must be like this. It has already become a part of our lives. Let's see what news there is, or what information there is. Let's see what's popular in the market. And then scroll again. Of course, when I was younger, I would watch YouTube's "Flir." I'm sometimes scared too, so I sometimes think, "Oh, it's not good to watch," it's really scary. Especially, you know, those comments are very harsh. It feels very harsh. It's like, "Oh, they think they're all friends." I think they're all supporting us. Yes, but you see many comments, because it's a bit different from other IG and Facebook practices, which is that it spreads your content to people you've never encountered. Oh, yes, yes, yes. This is different from those who haven't encountered you, haven't heard of you, don't know you. For some reason, these people leave comments, leave good words, leave some words that we think are very rude, very problematic. For example, I'll give you an example. One time I posted a food photo. Actually, I didn't post it. Because I pressed the button that day. What was it? It's that if I post anything in a shop, it will pop up once. So many people have pressed this button. So many people don't know. If you're just playing, they think we've put the pictures and things in there. Actually, we haven't put anything in there. It's that we posted it on IG, and it automatically popped up. Okay. So one time, I posted a photo of myself eating at a restaurant recently. And then one of the comments was, or said a swear word. Oh. Meaning, yes, meaning, "You don't dare to let us come, so we'll scold you." That's funny. But many of these people, you think, "You don't even have basic manners, man." That's right. Why is that? I mean, if you leave a comment like that, I should scold you even more? Should I give you my address? Yes? I saw it, wow, but I really think it's really bad. But on the other hand, I didn't see something here. What is it? One day I went, and I saw a very young person, a very young person, who had created a new channel. I don't remember the name anymore. Sorry, if you're listening, I'm sorry, I really can't remember. It's about old Hong Kong ghosts and legends. Okay, so I'm interested in these things, especially from young people. So I went to watch it. I thought it was done quite well. They would tell some old stories. Especially, there are many such stories in old Hong Kong, right? It's not now, right? Not many people talk about these things now. Okay, so they told it very well. But their content is a bit different from what I know about urban legends. So I thought, I'll add a little something in the comments. I rarely comment on others' posts, but I thought, since it's like this, why don't I just comment if I want to? So they... Before they commented, I looked at what others had said. Because I saw many of the younger generation, I believe, because I will be talking about one of the incidents from the 80s. So some people said, "Wow, I've never heard of it." "I've never heard of it." I think I'm so [laughter]. I've never heard of it. This is the first time I've heard of it. So many comments, "First time hearing," "Never heard of it," "Very exciting," "First time knowing." So I thought, "Wow, the city is changing so fast." [Gasp] I'm so envious. And. Okay, you might have heard of this incident. In the 80s, in a commercial building in Causeway Bay, there was an incident called the "Fox Spirit Incident." I don't know if you've heard of it. I've heard of it. But I've forgotten the details. It was an incident, but in our time, it was a classic case, and I was a little involved. So I know. When I see the younger generation saying they've never heard of it, it's exciting, and they're hearing about it for the first time, I think, "Wow, the times are changing so fast." [Laughter] Thank you. I mean, I think the story is, you know, we used to think it was something we should all know in our time. Now it's 2022, wow, so many people have never even heard of it. So I only remember a few things. I remember it was in Wang. That's right, it was there. That's right. Back then, before it was renamed, it was called Windsor House. That's right. Later it was renamed Wang Yiu Building. It had many shops. Back then, in our time, HMV was a place we had to visit. You know, you had to go in, look at the records, or see who had released an album, who had released a movie. It was still the era of buying CDs, still the era of watching DVDs, even VCDs. HMV used to sell VCDs. Everyone has forgotten this. I think, wow, it's good that I remember. I remember. I have the right to remember. Haha [laughter]. So I think, wow, this incident, so many young people have never heard of it. So, to tell some urban legends that we've always heard, or that we've grown up with, to some very young people who haven't heard of them, or even to those who grew up with us. It's quite good, I think. But in a moment, well, first, we'll talk about some of the ones we've always heard. One. I'll give you a preview. In a moment, I'll talk about an urban legend that even young people might not have heard of. I don't know if you've heard of it, because it's from Korea. Yes. This one. I think it's one of the most exciting urban legends I know in Hong Kong. One of them. I can name it, because I've asked everyone for permission. So it's very [sniff] famous. This person, the person involved in this incident is very famous. Wow, I'm so excited. But, today is Sunday. And this episode, I was in Causeway Bay on Thursday. I met a Korean person related to this incident. When I wanted to follow up and ask for details, they said something I had never heard of. I can elaborate later. Don't be impatient. Let's first talk about some classic, traditional urban legends. Let's start with the Red Fox Spirit Incident. Maybe Ah Lik Wah, you have a slight impression, a slight concept, but you don't remember many details. Do you remember what Windsor House was like back then? What's the general impression? It was white. That's it. I don't remember. Because it's been many, many years. Yes, I think it was white. Like a big stone. You mean, like a big stone. Yes, that's what it was like. Because back then, this incident was actually helped by a very popular newspaper in Hong Kong. Of course, was there a star name? Was there something? No, no, not that one, but the rival one. Wow, it had many rivals. [Laughter] Four characters or one character? Rival. Rival. Oh, yes, there were four characters. Direct rival. Yes. Because that rival newspaper, because of course, the incident happened first, and then they reported it. They said, "In Causeway Bay, there was this urban legend." I still remember it was a full page. A full page back then was a very big deal. It wasn't a small news item. It was a very big political event. It was the headline. Yes. But before it was the headline, we had already heard about this incident in the community, in society. There were some rumors. That's why we say old Hong Kong urban legends are so fun. It's because many people started spreading these stories, telling these stories. It was very popular back then, right? I don't know why now no one does that. Maybe because technology has advanced so much, communication is so easy, right? But we don't wake up and check WhatsApp to see what urban legends someone is talking about. No, no, not at all. But back then, it was different. Back then, when we were in line at school, classmates would say, "Hey, have you heard about what happened in Causeway Bay?" I said, "Yes, what?" And then people started spreading it. Neighbors would talk about it, neighbors would talk about it. When you hear such interesting stories, at least your mouth would be like this. Many classmates talked about these things. Then they would ask the small shops downstairs, "Hey, boss, have you heard about it?" Some rumors were like everyone in Hong Kong knew about this incident. It was a very interesting era. That's why we miss that era. It's because stories were passed down through word of mouth in Hong Kong, which was much more fun. I want to say. Okay. I remember it was around my sixth year of primary school. Why? Because I'm sure it was during my primary school years, not secondary school. Because in secondary school, I would have already gone out to explore on my own. This time, because no one can pinpoint the exact date, it's probably around that time. I originally wanted to go to the library to copy those old archives, those microfilm, to see exactly what year and what day that big news item was. But I've tried many times. I couldn't find it. Oh, I couldn't find it. And for some reason, Hong Kong libraries have all the archives of newspapers from the early 80s. They told me they're gone. It's not that long ago. The early 80s isn't that long ago. It's only a few years. Yes, but I haven't been able to find it for over twenty years. It's very strange. Even stranger is why I insisted on asking people if they had any archives, any newspapers from the early 80s. They said no. I went to different government departments and they said no. But why did I insist so much? Because in the 90s, I had seen these microfilms from the early 80s. So I thought, why are they gone now? It's strange. But no one could explain it. I asked many people, including government departments and senior library staff. No one could tell me why. Since a new central library appeared a few years ago, all the newspapers from the early 80s microfilm can no longer be found. It's very strange. Very strange. No one can explain it. Some people explained to me that maybe they don't want you to revisit stories from the 80s. That's possible. That's possible. Because why am I so sure? First, I saw it. Second, back then, if I remember correctly, when I was in secondary school, I tried to go to the Aberdeen Government Public Library. I asked them about the archives of that newspaper from the 80s. They said, "Yes, we have it all." The staff told me, "Okay, we have it all. But we are gradually moving the archives from Aberdeen to the Central Library, to a new library." So I was very clear at the time. A staff member told me. At least the Aberdeen Library, I don't know if it's still there. If you live in Aberdeen, please tell me. The Aberdeen Library staff personally told me that the newspaper archives from the 80s exist. So you can tell me. You said, "The old newspaper archives can't be found anymore." So Ah Ji, the doctor, said maybe it's only in the University of Hong Kong library. Oh, yes. He said maybe not in the government library. But the most tragic part is that the Aberdeen Library staff told me they had it. But they just told me they couldn't find it now because they had moved all the archives, or the microfilm, or the physical films, or the physical newspapers, to the Central Storage to prepare for the new library. They told me that directly. So it's impossible. If even the Aberdeen Central Library couldn't find it back then, it's strange. So I really regret that I can't find the exact date and month this incident happened. This is all based on memory. The Aberdeen Library is still there. Has it been moved? Or what? I don't know. So we'll have to wait for the audience's reply. Does anyone know? Yes, the Hong Kong Public Library. Many friends say it's there. Okay. But maybe they can't find the original Oriental Daily News that they promised me. The building hasn't changed. Is it possible that the library hasn't changed? Maybe. But they moved their archives to the Central Library. That's probably it. And about the printing, do you have to pay? No, no. For the microfilm, you just need to write down what you want to see, the date, and you can only get about one reel at a time. Then you take it to the microfilm machine, which looks like a computer, but it's not a computer. Then you put it in, twist the film, and you can watch it. You have to pay. Yes, this is a benefit for citizens. This is what I think is a public service over the years. We can watch these microfilms for free. Let me tell you, I'm a nosy citizen. There are usually about nine machines there, for everyone to use. I've never seen it. Every day, it's usually just me or a few other people. But usually, who are they? Not people looking for ghost stories. Not usually legal departments or lawyers, especially those looking for old case files, what happened in this case. Oh, I see. But when do you have to pay? If you want to print it out, it costs about one dollar. I think that's reasonable. Right? You want the government to preserve it for you, and then you need it, and you want to print it out for one dollar. That's reasonable. So you have to pay for that. But if you don't want to print it out, it's absolutely free. I see. You can watch whatever you want. As long as you finish watching it within three months, you can return it. If you say you want to watch it for a year, they will prepare it there. It will be changed once a month, once every three months. It's very interesting, of course, if you have the patience to watch it. Because there's so much in the newspaper, and the words are faded. You look at it and think, "Wow, it's so hard to read." If you have the patience. Hmm. But I've also been going less often in the past two years because I don't have time. [Laughter] Yes. Well, you mentioned it, let's go again sometime. But I'll tell you why I'm back now. Usually, when I go for lunch, I go around 9 or 10 o'clock. I scroll. I keep scrolling and scrolling. But sometimes, wow, I can't do it every day. And some people call, and it's inconvenient to call. It's very troublesome. Oh, yes, it's very troublesome. Okay, let's go back to this incident. I couldn't find the exact date. But people usually rely on memory. It should be in the 80s. So I calculated it. Because I remember it was around my fifth or sixth year of primary school. So I'm very clear about the time. It's probably around '82 or '83. Ah, you still remember that newspaper coming out, a big deal. And I still remember the newspaper that came out. I don't know if it was a Saturday or Sunday edition. Okay. So, as a very young child, after reading it, I thought, "Wow, it's so exciting. Such a powerful urban legend is on the front page of the newspaper." It described what happened. After reading it, I thought it was great. Because back then, the explanation was like this. The explanation was that. Why did this incident break out? It's that back then, in Windsor House, that commercial building, on the second or first floor, you had to take the escalator up there. And there was a shop. Of course, I don't dare to say its name, because that shop still exists, not in that location. But that shop, which one is it? I can't say. It's in the heart of Causeway Bay. Oh, yes, yes, I remember that shop. Yes, it was very big. And it was a big brand restaurant in Causeway Bay at the time. A very big brand. And I've been to this restaurant to take photos, meaning, you haven't taken photos, meaning, you've eaten there. It's the only one. Yes, yes, yes [laughter]. Because back then, it wasn't cheap. Many were very classy. Yes, it was classy. Yes, it was classy. Okay, so, as the newspaper reported back then, they all said this. There was a family, relatively poor for that era, who did this. They had a wedding banquet. Their family members helped them have a full banquet. They booked the entire Maxim's Palace. Think about it. Back then, not many people had banquets. First, second, it was high class. Talking about it, talking about it. Okay. So, the whole process, after the meal, the couple, wearing the baby, took the baby home. The whole process was uneventful. Nothing happened. So that night, the mother had a dream. In the dream, she saw a very empty fox. She walked up to it. In the dream, the mother asked, "What do you want to do?" She said, "I want to take your younger brother." That's what she said. Wow. Yes. The mother said, "What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Don't talk nonsense." According to the mother's dream, the fox spirit later admitted that it was a fox spirit. It said it wanted the child. But she also said, "Don't find a master to deal with me, or I will harm your family." So it's clearly a malevolent spirit. So it happened in the middle of the night. And immediately, the mother, usually, immediately checked on the baby. The baby had stopped breathing. So immediately, according to the explanation at the time, an ambulance was called. The baby had stopped breathing. The cause of death was not mentioned, because the cause of death would only be known by the police. But the cause of death was that the baby had stopped breathing. And the mother thought, "Hey, man, what's going on? Why did I have such a strange dream? The baby was by her side." She immediately told her husband about the dream. "Do you think it has anything to do with it?" Okay. I don't know. Do you make any connections? Sometimes we, it's interesting. I didn't believe this kind of thing before, but as I got older, especially when I have more different types of dreams, I think people go to another space in their dreams. I increasingly believe that. Because in another person's dream, I don't know. We see different things, we meet different people. Sometimes we see people we know, but they don't know us. Some people we don't know, but they are very familiar with us. So I think it's very real. I don't know if you've had this experience. In recent years, I've had very real dreams. I feel like I'm living in them. I feel it's very real. But when I wake up, I realize it was a dream. But the plot, it's like a memory more than a dream. Yes, I and. Is it true? And in recent years, there have been more and more such situations. And my friends are the same. I don't know if the magnetic field has changed, or if the Earth is ascending. If our minds and souls can keep up, then we start to come into contact with more spiritual information from another space. So that's it. But back in the 80s, of course, the mother didn't think that way. So she immediately told her husband about the story. So they asked her husband, "Do you think it has anything to do with our baby's death?" But at the time, both of them were very confused. Of course, their son had died. So they didn't know why. But the couple felt, "No, let's do this. Since you had such a strange dream, and it happened in our restaurant, why don't we go back to Maxim's? Let's see if there's anything strange." I think their idea was quite forward-thinking for that time. Right? You just had an unhappy event, but because you had such a strange dream, you thought, "Let's go to the scene and see." Yes, so they went to the scene. Yes. So, the shop was fine, of course, nothing happened. Suddenly, they noticed that the shop had a very large marble slab. So she said to her husband, "Hey. Do you think the marble patterns? You know, marble has some patterns. It has some states. It can be like a whole fox head, with ears, a sharp beak, a hard mouth." So she said, "Hey, it looks like it." So they thought, "The wall is a fox spirit." So, because it was next to Maxim's Palace, they thought, "Maybe because of this spirit, for some unknown motive, it might have given some people's souls, or harmed some friends. Because a baby is so fragile." So this incident started spreading among all their friends and family. They said, "Hey, so-and-so's son died that day at Maxim's. Later, when they went back, they saw something like a fox on the wall." So they started to think that a fox spirit was attached to the wall, attached to the commercial building. So this is how the rumor exploded in Hong Kong. But I think it exploded because, as I said earlier, back then, we would talk about these strange things at school. We would talk about strange things with neighbors. Small shop owners would talk about these strange things. Of course, this would never happen nowadays. It's gone now. Right? I wouldn't go to a shop and ask, "Have you heard any strange stories?" That's gone. It's gone. But back then, it was different. So it spread widely. Many people had heard of this fox spirit incident. Until, because the story was so popular, the Oriental Daily News published a full-page advertisement. It talked about this so-called Fox Spirit Baby Incident. But is it really related to the fox spirit? We don't know. But everyone put these things together. Ah Hai, you said there wasn't just one. You said it looked like a whole family. Yes. Later, many interpretations emerged. Many new stories emerged. But this is the original version. Okay. But if you say it like this, you also have an impression of this incident, right? Yes, a strong impression. Yes. Okay. Yes, but you said that after the banquet, the baby died. I don't remember that. I remember there was this story, which made the incident even more mysterious. Yes, that's right. It's even more worth exploring, because everyone was so scared. Wow. The business at the time must have been terrible. Let me tell you, I'll tell you exactly what happened. Because it was during the day. Right? I still remember that day. I don't remember if it was a Saturday or Sunday edition. I don't remember. But on that day, because my family also bought that newspaper, we read it. I didn't propose it. I remember it wasn't me who proposed it. I was still young, ten or eleven years old. I must have begged my father or mother to go and see. Oh, yes. So, of course, I said, "Okay." But I wasn't very interested in these things. But back then, if I remember correctly, I probably didn't go with them. I probably didn't. I probably said, "Oh, you go, I'm not interested." Okay. I still remember. Because in my mind, I remember my mother, my uncle, and my father. I don't remember if my grandfather went. I really don't remember. I have no impression at all. But I have a strong impression that my father and mother were there. And my father. We took the subway and crossed the harbor to Causeway Bay. That road leads directly to the current Windsor House Building. Okay. My impression is this. As soon as we got out of the subway and walked down the street. Wow! Even as a child, I said, "Wow, what's going on?" My mother asked, "What's going on?" My father. What's going on? It's like a Lunar New Year fair. So many people. So many people. Oh, it was like that, pushing in that direction. Okay? I don't remember the street being so crowded that it had to be closed off. I remember it was so crowded that it was exaggerated, even more exaggerated than the Lunar New Year. It was so crowded that it was packed. Of course, people were talking. Everyone was saying, "Are you here to see? Are you here to see?" You can say what time it was. The whole street was packed with people, ready to see. It was very exaggerated, very exaggerated. But I think, looking back now, I'm very fortunate to have been involved in such a crazy incident back then. Because I was there, squeezed in with everyone. Right? If it were just me, I wouldn't have been able to. But I didn't expect my mother and father to go crazy with me back then. Of course, they proposed it, not me. So if any viewers were there that day, please leave a comment. Tell me you were there, squeezing with me. It's funny. There's a wave area. Squeezing. You were next to me. Okay. So, we squeezed all the way. It was really hard. We squeezed all the way to Windsor House. The entrance was already packed. Everyone wanted to see the so-called Fox Spirit marble slab. Some said they saw it, some said they pushed it. They said they remembered seeing it on TV. The wall was slowly being recorded by the audience. Okay. It was so exaggerated that the entire mall was packed. Everyone was pushing upwards. There were escalators, and of course, it was impossible to walk. So everyone went up. Because everyone knew where it was. So everyone could see. But they saw the direction. Ham, no, no, no. Okay, it's there. And they saw the signs. Okay, everyone thought, "It must be there." I still remember, it was funny. It was around 12 or 1 o'clock. It was crowded until 1 o'clock. My father and mother said, "We're hungry." So I said, "Let's not eat yet." [Laughter] Yes. Since it's so popular here today, let's go in and eat. So everyone said, "Let's see it first." Hong Kong people are all like this. Yes, yes. You said you've seen it. Yes? Vivien also saw it. Yes. And Ah Man Chung said he saw it. And Ah Hong Kong 83 said he wasn't born yet. [Laughter] He said he saw it. It must have been very... Oh, okay. So finally, we finally walked up the stairs. We saw the big marble. Of course, we were very eager to see what it looked like like a fox. Right? We were a bit late. Yes. Why? Why? It was already covered. It was covered. Yes. The mall was closed for two reasons. First, they thought, "Wow, the fox spirit is here. It might affect the mall." Actually, did it affect the mall? Maybe. Don't you think it's strange that this mall isn't doing very well? [Laughter] I don't know if you've noticed. Since Windsor, it seems to be doing well. Windsor seems to be doing well. People seem to be doing feng shui. It seems okay. I don't know if it's true. Because I don't know. Have any masters come out to talk about it? I don't know. Okay. So, the mall first thought it might affect their business. And it was so crowded. So, just before we walked in, the mall had already prepared a super large red cloth and hung it up. It covered the entire area. But I thought back then, if you cover it, doesn't that mean you know that this cloth is covering the incident? Right? If you don't cover it, it's better, right? You might just be seeing things. You're actively making a big deal out of it. It's like, "Hey, no one asked you to do that." You're admitting it. Yes, yes, yes. Wow, many friends said they saw it. Some saw two or three, some saw five, some saw seven. Wow, there are many different versions. Because later, you know, before that, people had seen it. And there were people who went to see it on those days. They went to work, they passed by and saw it. So some people saw one fox. Okay. Some people saw a whole fox head, and even smaller fox heads around it. So there are different versions. Some versions say there are five or six. Maybe the big fox spirit is the mother fox, with a few small ones. So it's unknown why it ended up here. But I want to talk about the origin of the legend first. Okay, okay. Looking at the cloth, it's so helpless. Why is it covered? But we're telling you, back then, Hong Kong probably didn't have that many people. There were probably thousands of people there, not hundreds. Thousands of people were squeezing into the lobby, and there were still people outside. People were still squeezing in from the street. You can imagine how exaggerated it was back then. Okay. I think it was really too much to do. And we were all thinking the same thing. We squeezed for maybe a whole hour before we got in. We squeezed from the subway. We squeezed for a whole hour. We felt so indignant. Man, we squeezed for a whole hour and couldn't see anything. Right? Everyone was already hearing the queues, the enemies were all saying, "What a joke. A whole hour, and we can't see anything." Okay, the viewing area is here. This includes us. Including people nearby. People who came to see. We were watching the marble slab. Right? We were watching. We weren't leaving. Everyone was watching. I think back then, even though I was young, I thought, "This is too exaggerated." It was clearly covered, and we were still watching. Why? Everyone was still watching. Everyone was still watching. We watched for at least an hour. What were we watching? Is it a psychological story? Everyone was unwilling to waste so much time. I heard some people from the New Territories say, "I came from the New Territories to see the fox spirit." Then they started saying, "What a joke." Of course. It's so far from the subway. But of course, the mall didn't care about us back then. Right? Man. They covered it up. You guys are here to harass our mall. Right? Hey, Yun Hai, a viewer said that back then there were rumors that there was blood inside. Yes, there was. Today, in the mall, there was blood coming out. Some even said that at the location of the fox, there was blood. But of course, there are also very rational analyses. They said that because marble has many different minerals, this white marble slab might have other minerals in its cracks. There are red minerals. That's very reasonable. There might be some substances that turned red. But our thinking would be, "Hey, there's red next to the fox head. There's blood." So they started saying there was blood. We saw it. But of course, we couldn't see it because it was covered. Yes. So, of course, the mall didn't report it later. It's gone. Completely gone. We were very disappointed. Right? You can imagine. Back then, the whole incident, I would call it a climax. It was very easy to happen. It was very easy. Right? So many people were there, and more were still coming. People from outside were still coming. Right? To see a so-called legend, a rumor, and then you suddenly cover it up. Man, many people were already dissatisfied. It could easily trigger an emotional explosion. But unfortunately, it didn't happen. It's really regrettable. Yes, many friends went there and said they didn't see so many people when they went. That was probably the peak. It wasn't that many. Yes, later it suddenly became crazy. They really saw it. They saw it themselves. They said they saw it. So they regret not going earlier. Not having to squeeze in to see the original. Yes, congratulations. [Laughter] Then Ah Bing said the fox spirit mother was the big one, and the children were the smaller ones behind her. Wow, there are so many descriptions. Wow, so many. There are also rumors that Ah said it was exaggerated. The whole family turned into a fox. This is something I haven't heard of. Maybe it's a later interpretation. Maybe it's because there are many different versions later. Okay. But we squeezed in. We couldn't see it. But it was less than 15 minutes. Of course, they didn't report it. So the three of us found a place to eat at Maxim's. In that era, there were no mobile phones. There were no such things. In that era, you had to go in yourself. Find an empty seat or wait for a seat. It was a more primitive way. I still remember we walked around the entire Maxim's. Wow! Yes. So I said, "Wow, with a fox spirit here, it's still so crowded." We can joke about it. "What a joke. You were so crowded earlier. Is it possible that no one is going to this restaurant?" No. Hong Kong people really don't believe in evil. They just have to eat there. [Laughter] The business even increased. People kept coming. We couldn't get a seat. We waited for a whole hour. My mother said, "Let's go find a place to eat." [Laughter] Don't stay. It turns out that most of those people were just there for dim sum. Yes, dim sum. Ah, Causeway Bay. Yes. [Laughter] Oh, it's all for dim sum. But we thought, with this incident happening now, it would definitely be a hot topic for KOLs to take photos. Yes. A topic of discussion. Yes. A viewer said that in the end, Huang bought a marble slab and played with it. The legend says so, but there's no evidence. No evidence. Okay. So later, after this incident, many new stories emerged. So, as I said earlier, this is the original story. Later, the new story is that. First, let's talk about how to deal with this. Later, the mall found a master. They were definitely convinced. Why else would they find a master? Right? It's obvious they believed it. Some people say the mall didn't find a master. Some say Maxim's found a master. So, who is it? Did Maxim's Group find a master? You see, neither side has admitted it. Or maybe they collaborated. Maybe they split the cost. The mall is next to you, the mall is yours. Maybe they split the cost. This is unknown. So they invited a master to negotiate with the spirit. According to later interpretations, the fox spirit followed the master away. It said, "Don't blow people away, don't bother people." So it followed the master. Later, some people even said that the master sent it to Taiwan. Some people say it was placed in a temple in Taiwan to be at peace. So that it wouldn't bother people anymore. Maybe it would listen to Buddhist scriptures for a long time. To cultivate itself. This is a later saying. But later, I heard a version that said, "This spirit doesn't need you to place it anywhere. It doesn't need anything." It said, "I didn't do it. I just didn't want to." It didn't necessarily admit to harming the child. It didn't necessarily admit it. It said, if the master was willing, they would take its soul and place it in Taiwan. According to what I know, it was placed in a mountain near Taichung and Kaohsiung in Taiwan. Some people asked me, "Which mountain?" I guess it's a mountain near Taichung and Kaohsiung. Because there are many gods there. So they placed it in a natural environment and let it be on its own. This is what I heard. It's not the version circulating outside. So, has it already been left there? But later, there are also legends that the master kept it under control. Of course, there are different versions. This also has different interpretations. Some people add that many people from Taiwan came to Hong Kong and took it away from the scene. I don't know if it's true. Is it a mountain? I couldn't find out. Because I have several writer friends in Taiwan who are best friends. Hey, if you say that, I can comment next time. Not Ah Shi. He also said there are many temples in Taiwan where people go to worship. That's right. I'll tell you. In every city, every village, every town in China, there is a fox spirit. Before. Yes, everyone doesn't know this. There is a fox temple next to that small village. Villagers go there because they consider it a wise being, a spirit. They think spirits are lucky, or intelligent, or wise. So they appear in a natural form. In fact, this has been the case for thousands of years. Every place says there was a temple at the village entrance. And thousands of people would worship it or ask for peace. Where do we see this culture now? In Japan. Every street corner in Japan has a shrine. Right? Every school has a shrine. Is it a fox spirit shrine? Yes. Japan has inherited this culture. Of course, it has completely disappeared after years of war and political movements. This culture in the Chinese system has been wiped out. Yes. So now, when people revisit it, they think, "Wow, what is this? This is not our thousands of years of tradition." But for some reason, this tradition suddenly disappeared in 1980. Earlier, a viewer mentioned it. They said, "Is it related to Leopard Villa?" Of course, is it related to the owner? Another version emerged. It's that back then, Leopard Villa was on the mountain in Causeway Bay. Right? So there were many sculptures. Leopard Villa itself was a strange building. And there was a hell gate outside. There were sculptures of hell. It was open to the public. I saw it many times when I was a student. The hell gate, the 18 levels of hell. And so on. Of course, it was demolished later. It's strange that it was demolished. I remember hearing from the government back then that it would be rebuilt somewhere in Hong Kong. Of course, that didn't happen. Now I hear that all the sculptures have been moved to another country. It's no longer in Hong Kong. It was open to the public for a period. When we were young, it was open. It was always open. But recently, it seems to have been open again. It was the villa that was open. The villa. But all the sculptures in the garden have been moved. Yes. But back then, it was rebuilt. Of course, the topic is gone. Later, these were moved to another country, maybe Malaysia. I don't know. I really don't know. But this was originally one of Hong Kong's most important attractions. Yes, tourism. If it was done well, I think many people would come to see it. I would definitely come to see it first. They were all moved away. Yes. And they were moved away. Because back then, you know, those sculptures were private property. Back then, they were private property. Yes. It belonged to the group you mentioned earlier. The group. Yes. You have the name of the group. It seems not. Because back then, it was said that the boss of the oil group owned them. Yes, it seems so. It seems so. Today, are you not a Hong Kong person? You asked a very good question. I think back then, rich people in Hong Kong had a lot of property. Or something. I didn't follow up on that. But why did a viewer say it's related to the fox spirit, or bringing several fox spirits? It didn't break out. It's that. It's that. In the tax, a worker received money. They wanted to renovate. They were doing something. And then, when they were working on a marble slab, they saw something that looked like a fox. It was similar to the incident in Windsor. It was a state of being. They said there were several foxes, a mother fox with several cubs. So they said that in the building, some minor accidents happened. So they notified the rich owner. So they said, "I'll find a master to take a look." Oh, we have to drive them away. Why? You guys are a family. Of course. Later, this family no longer owned the hell gate. All the hell sculptures were demolished. It disturbed them. So, they said they drove them away. So the fox spirit, with these cubs, or the mother, came down from the mountain villa. And then, for some reason, maybe it felt the marble was enough. So it stayed in that place. And then this version of the story happened. Of course, this story was interpreted later. Whether something really happened, or if it was added and subtracted to create a story, no one knows. Yes. Yun Hai, can you ask if there's a difference between a fox spirit and a nine-tailed fox? Well, according to my understanding, you know, I said earlier that China has had fox spirits for thousands of years. So, they don't distinguish between good and evil. It's not very different. It's the spirit or the mental state of the fox. It can refine itself. Some foxes help people, some fox spirits harm people, some fox spirits confuse people. So they get their own power, their own strength. So different fox spirits have different methods. So there are legends over the years, or even in reality now, some fox spirits work very hard to help people. They want to achieve a higher level. Some just want to confuse you, want to get your things. So there are different versions. And my understanding is that later, some people kept cultivating, kept cultivating, kept cultivating, and reached a very high level. High level doesn't mean being immortal. It's unrelated. They get something, so-called things, or get some people's things. So the nine-tailed fox would have very high power, very high energy. So even this culture, as I said earlier, is gone in China. It's all in Japan. Japan also has stories of nine-tailed foxes. There was even a period, I don't remember the exact period, when there was a heavenly king. The heavenly king was harmed, the heavenly king was robbed. It was also harmed, right? In Japanese stories. There are also nine-tailed foxes that help people. So it's not about good or evil. For so many years, it's not about good or evil. It's the fox that decides whether to help people, or to harm people, or to confuse people. It's different. It's like people. There are good people, there are bad people, there are helpful people, there are harmful people. Yes. In a place, the energy there, it also needs to cultivate itself, to achieve something. But now in China, this culture is gone. This situation is gone. Maybe they are still there, but no one gives them offerings. There are no more fox temples. There are no more. All the temples in China that were placed in the river mouth have been demolished. Yes. Okay. So this friend is sharing some information. Very good, thank you. The Oriental Daily News was founded by a wealthy businessman in 1938 in Hong Kong. In the same year, it published the Oriental Daily News and Sing Tao Daily. At that time, it was called Sing Tao Daily. It was the predecessor of Sing Tao Daily in Singapore and Malaysia. There is also a Leopard Villa in Singapore. It seems that when they ascended, their own rich people lived there. But you can imagine a very evil explanation. What is it? If the information this netizen just mentioned was found online. Okay. Do you remember the group's later female member? What was her name? I don't remember exactly. A viewer also provided it. The adult of that group was also called Hu Xian back then. So if Hu Xian came down, why? Did they name the daughter Hu Xian? Or is there a fox spirit here? Or is this family relying on it? I don't know. I guess. Is there a connection? I really don't know. I really don't know. Yes. So I think this story can have many interpretations. And it's said that the Tiger Balm is also from their family. Yes, it's from their family. Yes. So it's all connected. Yes. 18 levels of hell. This transformation is really terrifying. I remember it very deeply when I was young. My father took me. But now it's all demolished. I don't know where it went. I seem to remember it was moved back to Singapore or Malaysia. That's right. But I remember it was open to the public a few years ago. Yes. It was very difficult to get in. Yes. Oh, you had to register. I don't know how. I think it was two or three years ago. And now it's all gone. No more viewing. The villa is still there. The villa is still there. Yes. But the villa is there. But it has been preserved because it was listed as a heritage site. Back then, it was listed as a heritage site. But the sculptures were not listed as heritage sites. Oh. We, the public, have been looking at those hell sculptures for years. Why give me a villa? I went in. It has nothing to do with it. [Laughter] So sometimes things are very strange. You should protect them, but you don't. It's very strange. I don't understand. Wow, someone said, "Right, Ah Cong." Fox spirits are the strongest. I support it. Yes, support it. Yes. Because their evolution should be at its peak. Yes, they can transform into different things. So some say that some ancient events that greatly influenced Chinese history, or some so-called major events, haven't happened yet. It's that because it became very beautiful, very magnificent, etc. So, is it possible to get power now? Yes, yes. Japan also has many. They say they want to rebuild the temple. Actually, as far as I know, some women in Hong Kong, even girls, go to these fox temples to get abilities, to get the power to confuse people, etc. So I think this is not a righteous path. I think people, is it so complicated? Is it righteous to be a fox spirit and evil to be a fox spirit? No, as I said earlier, fox spirits, I call them fox spirits. Originally, there was no good or evil. They can help people, they can harm people, they can confuse people. They decide for themselves. It's like people. They decide for themselves whether to be good people, bad people, or helpful people. So it's a state like this. So in Japan, it's the same concept. In Japan, every street, every village, every city, every area has a god. It's based on gods. Right? They are the gods who protect that area. So those gods can continue to cultivate themselves. It's not a big god. It's an energy. A spirit. So they also cultivate themselves. Some cultivate themselves. Some become very powerful, but they can harm heavenly kings. Some cultivate themselves and then help people, help monks or real people in Japan. Yes. So it's not about good or evil. It's about how they cultivate themselves. I think. Oh. A viewer said, "No." [Laughter] They said, "The current Leopard Villa is probably under renovation. It's still open to the public, but it's still open." But is it related to the fox spirit now? It's not related. But you said there might be rumors. Some people say that later generations are raising them. Because their family also does this. Yes, yes. So now, according to the rumors, if this is true, then their family didn't take care of the spirits they worshipped. They ran away. They didn't take care of them well. They ran away. [Laughter] Exactly. But imagine, that family is now in decline. But seriously, they said their descendants went to the United States. Yes, a viewer said that. But all the things that came out later are gone. They were acquired. New buildings were built on top. [Laughter] It's completely gone. Everything is gone. But it's said that there are many legends. Even if the fox spirit did this, there are many stories. It's like this. But you know that group's fox spirit. Not this fox spirit, but the group's fox spirit. It has many circle stories. But those can't be told. Right? Why? Why can't they be told? Because it involves many Hong Kong circle people. Oh. Yes, they can't be told. We'll see if we can get them. Ah, can we get those characters? I'm afraid if I say it, reporters will come tomorrow and talk about it. Yes. [Laughter] Yes. Because even back then, the stories about the circle, I told them, which fox spirit? I said I can't say. [Laughter] I can't say. I'm sorry. Actually, why is it called a fox spirit? Just thinking about it, it's like a fox. It's a funny name. Yes, yes. Of course, I said my father deliberately named it. It's impossible not to change it. You ascended. Ah. But his father's name is Pao. Not called. Called a younger brother. Then the younger brother is called like this. Maybe all of these have to do with animals. I don't know. It's really strange. This family is also very strange. And this family also has a lot of power. It can't be told. Ah, those are stories about how this family survived during the war. Of course, you young people won't know what we're talking about. The older generation will know about this family's stories. Of course, we can't talk about it on air. If later, we can share it with everyone. [Laughter] Yes. A viewer left a comment. They just saw us talking about the big marble. When they were young, they often played there. They played at the entrance. There was also Tiger Balm sold there. But later, this white tower had people jumping off it. Then it was closed. What happened? Later, the dolls inside were all rotten. It's good that you often played there. I know that public housing. De Village. Ah, no. Well, if you don't mind, because it also happened. There were people who died inside. They committed suicide. Because its design was very unique. It was round. The whole thing was like a barrel, a barrel. It was very cute. Why was I so familiar with that place? Because I used to work for a social service unit at St. Fu Hui. In 1994 or 1995. One of my cases was a resident of the village. That resident and their family were my clients. So I had to go up twice a week. So I was very familiar with that place. Of course, we also heard those stories. Yes. It's said that back then, because it was round, the middle was hollow. It went straight to the ground. There was a hole. So now there's probably not much of it. So many people were there. Yes. Early on. But later there was a very strange legend. It's that in the early days, when some villagers moved in, these things happened. But the villagers complained to the management. They said, "Hey, the villagers are too noisy." What noise? Later, some staff and curious citizens looked out of the window. At around 3:30, they saw a female ghost. Of course, I don't know if it's true. She was circling the circle. Turning like this. Turning. But of course, there's a chance it was a person. Right? They were turning like this. After turning, it was dawn, and she was gone. Yes, yes. But then everyone said it was too noisy. Hmm. But this story probably doesn't exist anymore. Because in recent years, I haven't heard of these things. In recent years. Hai Shaojie, many people say that Fan Bing went to Taiwan to see a fox spirit. There are some similarities to the eyes on the screen. But I don't know if she said it. [Laughter] She said it. I don't know. Fox spirit. I'm used to your dynamic. [Laughter] I don't know. I really don't know. But since I want to ask Li Hua first, do you have any more programs after this? No, no. It's all for you. Today we are very happy. We have thousands of viewers watching us, listening to you. Hai, I'm not afraid of delaying your next program. No, no. Today is completely dedicated to you. It's your time. You can talk outside. If you have another story to tell us. Yes, that's right. This story, this urban legend. Since we talked about the entertainment industry earlier, let's talk about this story. Because the vast majority of Hong Kong citizens have never heard of this urban legend. No. Okay, listen to it as a new story. But I don't know if you've heard of it. But we'll tell it first. But this story is very popular in our circle. Including the film industry, the entertainment industry, the television industry. I don't know if anyone has mentioned this incident. Maybe I'll tell you later. Have you heard of this story? So, who is it related to? It's related to Miss Yan. Yes, cup. Everyone will... But I started from a young age. I watched her participate in the New Talent Singing Competition. I watched her win the championship on TV. I didn't know her then. Who is she? I was very young. Then I heard her sing TV theme songs, release albums. I can say from her first album. If you ask, if you ask. Yes, from the first album. All her later albums, I bought them. I'm a real fan. Her first concert in Hong Kong. I also saw it when I was in secondary school. Yes. But I don't remember how I got the ticket. I completely forgot. It wasn't me who bought it. I bought two tickets. I was in secondary school back then. Two tickets. In Hong Kong Coliseum. It was very high, not very close, very high. I was very happy to see her. So for so many years, I've been a fan. Not a hardcore fan, but I think I'm a fan. It's interesting. It's very strange. On the day she passed away in the hospital in Hong Kong, I wasn't in Hong Kong. I went to... I want to ask everyone, why is it a strange thing? I've only told a few people once. It's that the night before she left. I was in Asia. Of course, you're going to leave Hong Kong. It's so far away. I dreamed. But she hadn't left yet. I dreamed. Or rather, I don't know if she was there or not. I dreamed of Ula. In my dream, there was a small white house. I saw the door was half-open. I saw her. "Hey, come here, come here." I was very happy. In my dream, I thought, "Do I know her? Are you a friend? Why does it feel like a friend?" I walked up to her. It was like someone was talking to you. As I walked up to her, I didn't know what was happening. The door didn't close. She didn't talk to me anymore. The dream ended. It was that simple. So when I woke up, I thought, "I've never dreamed of her in my life. How did I suddenly dream of her?" Later, I was in Asia. Communication wasn't good back then. A few hours later, I received a call. They said that she had passed away in Hong Kong. So I don't know what time it was. When did I receive the call? Had she already passed away? Or when I saw her, had she already passed away? I'm not related to her. I'm not her friend or relative. I'm not. Or I'm a fan. So I think this dream is very strange. It's like she suddenly received a message. It's very strange. Very strange. But the most surprising thing is that later, after this incident, I returned to Hong Kong. I heard from a friend in the film industry. He has been in the film industry for many years. I'll tell you who it is. I heard it. He has been here for many years. He told me a story that shocked me. Shocked me. How exaggerated? It was that exaggerated. It was in 1990 or 1991. Wow, it's been a long time. I believe many netizens weren't born yet. At that time, the first film that was full of topics in Hong Kong was released. It was released, and there was a lot of discussion. Because the film itself was a topic of discussion. It was about Japan. What film? It was "The Japanese Army is Coming." Yes. It was also about Japanese stories. The title "The Japanese Army is Coming" itself was already disliked by many people. Because some people would say, "What do you mean, the Japanese Army is Coming? Do you miss the Japanese Army?" Meaning, "What are you saying? Do you want the Japanese Army to come back?" Oh, but of course not. Because "The Japanese Army is Coming" is in Chinese. Meaning, "Mr. Ah, when will you come back?" This is a...

It's a typical tradition in Cantonese, which is, yes, for some people, but it's for some very radical people. They criticize it like this, so it's already something that makes people have a lot of true meaning. But of course, when you say it like this, you go infinitely, and you can also twist it to the creators, like when are you coming back, are you kidding me? You can imagine that many people have good thoughts. They don't know why it's like this. Okay, are some Korean women talking to us? Don't even bother. You don't need to worry about it, I'll tell you later, I'll tell you later. I don't know, I'm just telling the audience. Sigh, you audience, don't say such things so quickly. You're amazing, I don't know. Wow, she's really amazing, I don't know if it's true. Don't worry about it, I'll tell you the story first. Okay, then, I, uh, at that time, this Korean person told me about the story of filming "He Jun Zai Lai" like this. After I listened, I said, did such a thing happen? She said yes, many people know about it, and it's a shocking urban legend in the film industry. But actually, sometimes I don't talk about it when it's an urban legend. Why? Because the person who told me this story has seen these things. I'll tell you in detail what happened. At that time. Then we have to go to Japan. If I remember correctly, it's in the Northeast. There's a place in the Northeast where the last scene of that movie was filmed. It was that Wu Fang had to wear a dress. I don't remember if it was a kimono. I remember it seemed like a kimono. It was snowing in the ice and snow. The picture was actually very beautiful, gorgeous, and quite, you know, beautiful. Then it was from that. A big road, a road with some small trees. A big road, snow falling. The snow is real, the snow is real. Then the camera was following the back of the person all the way. The camera kept walking, walking, walking, until there was almost no shadow left. They kept walking, walking, walking, walking. I think they didn't even know. Sigh, they kept walking, walking, walking, walking until the shadow disappeared. Okay, he said that this part of the film, the initial part, the initial part, was probably cut. Later, at the beginning, it was a very strange situation. How? Because at that time, the director and the camera were there. On the horse, that is, the camera was set up at the front of the big horse. Right? Then, there was the crew behind, the director behind, the cameraman behind, and then the front. They kept walking. At the beginning, at the very beginning, the part that was probably cut later. When they were walking, imagine, if you've filmed before, you'll know. They kept walking, walking. When the cameraman was holding the camera and looking at the person, the camera was like, you see something. Right? You see me. Now you see my face. The camera is looking at me, and I'm turning around and walking. On the right side of the camera, suddenly, it was like this. I'm re-enacting it. Some fingers started to appear. Slowly, slowly, slowly, very slowly. Fingers. Is it like this, stretching out, stretching out, stretching out, stretching out further? Arms are visible, palms are visible, arms are visible. It's reversed, not like this, but like this. Stretching all the way to the middle. It's a woman's hand. Wow, yes. But the camera. Who entered the frame? Who? Who entered the frame? Everyone was stunned. Everyone was scared. Who entered the frame? Outside the camera, there was no one. The set was empty. Of course, we cleared the set. We were filming Fang. We were filming Fang. How could someone appear in the middle? They would definitely see the person. And it's in a very tight shot. A hand came out. And it stopped there. Obviously, you saw it, and it was slow, slow, slow, slow. A woman's hand. He said because, because my friend asked the cameraman, he said it was definitely a woman's hand. It was definitely a woman's hand. The fingers were long, so it was a woman's hand. He said the best part is what? It's not like this, is it? It's not like this. You're hallucinating. It's like this. Slowly, isn't it terrifying? It's terrifying. It's terrifying. Because, our audience, he said this story, are we telling the same story? He said the director of the movie told the nephew, it's real. The last shot was to burn it. Okay, this is what Ah said. You must be Korean, because later there were more things that happened. Okay, then. Then, the person who told me this incident, I asked him again, how do you know? After I came back, it was already chaotic. The whole family filmed such things, it was so strange. So I asked if he knew. Everyone behind the scenes knew, the director knew. Those who came to watch the movie didn't know. After watching, it was really like this. And what else? Because many ghost stories are like this, after they appear, you turn back. They said it slowly shrunk back. Then it shrunk back. So yes, you know that many things disappear when you look back. It's always like that. He said this time it's not this time. The whole process is there. Oh. There's evidence. Isn't that terrifying? Wow, very terrifying. It's so scary. I haven't heard this before. Thank you for telling me. In the film industry, maybe it's really tight. Maybe it hasn't been said in the TV industry. Okay, I listened to him. Wow, so shocking. He said yes, later this incident came back. Many people talked about it. Many people in the film industry talked about it. Because my friend is also in the industry. He also felt that it wasn't like this. He immediately found his friend behind the scenes. Hey, come over, let me see. Ah, you see it. So they went up to watch it. And now he's a very famous director. Okay, he wasn't famous back then. Back then. Okay. They put the film back. The whole process. It's a beginner's mistake. It's repeating. It's not something you can see by watching once. It's repeating. They said many people wanted to know how to see this film at that time. Because everyone had already heard that, hey. He Jun Zai Lai. There's a ghost hand at the end. Wow, so scary. Really. So scary. And at the beginning, it was about urban legends. But after listening, if I had known at the time, I would have gone to see it. It's so exaggerated. It was filmed in the early 90s, probably in 1991. Wow, so early. Yes, so early. Then my friend, my friend, because of this, he personally went to the film company to watch this film. He also said, I can't believe you. Because I watched it, but I also watched it. So, is there something wrong with my eyes? The film is here, I watched it. Many people were queuing to watch it. It has already reached such an urban legend. So, if I remember correctly, it was Wang. It should be. So many people have heard of this. Many people know Ding Ping. Earlier, a viewer also said, is it? Ding Shi should be. Yes. Okay. So I asked, what happened next? Because no one knew what happened. Like, how do you... Right? Okay. So, why is my memory so certain? It's because at that time, my friend asked me. I asked him how the film was handled afterwards. I remember at that time, my friend told me that. Everyone was very scared of this film later. Because they didn't know how to handle it. Because it was filmed and it's here. Right? But you can't. Right? Like, it means it has been cut. The part where the hand appeared before was cut. It was cut, and then they just watched the rest. They just watched the process of walking. So at least the audience wouldn't know. So I bought some later. I watched it again. It's just walking. But of course, you saw the hand. Of course not, because it was cut. So that part of the film with the hand was cut. I said, how was it handled? Why am I talking about this today? It's because a few days ago, a very, very senior person in the film industry passed away. And who was that person? That person was Si Lan Si. Right? In our Korean industry, he was a legendary figure. Everyone really, it's true. Everyone, he created many miracles and peaks in movies. This person is really too strong. Si is really strong. Okay. So why am I bringing this up? It's because at that time, the person who told me said that later, because Fang and Si were best friends. I don't know if you know. Si and Ah are like sisters. They are best friends. They always help each other. So Fang and the two of them are good. Okay. So after this incident, they immediately went to see the film. They really saw the film. Okay? So Si said to the police at that time, don't keep it. Don't keep it. Burn it. It turns out it was him. And the story I heard is that Si was responsible for burning the film. Okay. Yes. So when I met my friend that day, I wanted to confirm if this was true. Because over the years, I've really wanted to have the chance to meet Si Nan Sheng and ask him if he was responsible. But of course, there's no chance anymore, because he's already passed away. But what's the most, most, most? My friend told me that I never told you the story of burning the film. He said yes, I remember I told you the whole thing in the film industry. And that year I asked him, can I tell this story? He said yes. Yes. He even said I could mention his name, but I don't want to. Because it's been so long. Okay. So he told me that day that I told you the story, I told you everything that happened, but I didn't tell you that the decision to burn the film was made by you. I told you. Hey. I really thought you told me. So, okay, so this is strange. Because I also thought he told me. But, it should have been a Korean person who told me. Si was responsible for this film. So I thought, suddenly we were standing, I, because we met at the cinema. Who told me? It's not. Is it because he's been telling me for over 20 years? He said he never told you about this. And he also said that, not only did I not tell you, but as far as I know, the film was not burned. Hey. Hey. My understanding is completely different. Okay. So I stood there, confused. Who told me that year? Who must be Korean to know? And it must be a Korean person who told me about this film. A movie that has nothing to do with new times. A movie that has nothing to do with him, but just because he's best friends, he told me about it. He wanted to see the film immediately. And he told me in great detail about this incident. Okay. So I was confused. Who told me 20 years ago? I thought again. It wasn't the audience. The audience is familiar with me. But it wasn't the audience who told me about this. Who was it? Damn it. I still can't remember who it was. This incident is so small. I suddenly felt, wow, I've jumped into another dimension. Is someone helping me solve this mystery? Is there anyone helping? No, no, no. They are all talking about whether the film was burned. A viewer also said. Yes. And then there are follow-ups. What is it? Ah said, he told me it wasn't burned. Why? Because actually, later, this incident was very famous in the industry. And he, actually, I don't know the exact event. He said there was a film party or a film exhibition. Actually, the crew of that movie went to the scene and mentioned this incident. A viewer who knows people in the entertainment industry asked about this. So, was the film burned or what? The crew member at that time said no. Did that viewer misunderstand? He said, maybe. He answered like that. Maybe. He answered like that, and didn't say whether it was or not. So my friend immediately left the event and caught up with that friend. Because they were from the same place. He said, so who burned it? He didn't burn it. So where is it? You don't know if it's hidden. He said, is it with you? So he said, actually, it should be with someone. Oh, so it wasn't burned. It wasn't burned. It's with a behind-the-scenes person. In the hands of a director who is now famous. But he told him the name, but I can't say the name. Because I don't want to. Because people want to hide that film. They don't want anyone to know. Right? So, according to my friend's statement, the film is still with that director. That director, not related to that movie. Not him. It's with another director. Not flat. Yes. So I thought, this evidence is still here. Yes. If you say so, it hasn't been burned yet. Yes, it hasn't been burned yet. Film. And there's one more thing. Actually, many years later, I thought about something. What is it? Imagine, what kind of hand was that? Because we always say, what kind of hand is this? Some say it's a female ghost, a female ghost. You can interpret it that way, but my interpretation is what? Do you all remember Wu Fang before she died? An advertisement. It was all over the place, all over the ads. It said she, she had to, at that time, she was sick. No, no, this advertisement was the last commercial collaboration. When she was critically ill, she was in so much pain. She insisted on filming in Hong Kong. There are many legends. Why did she film this advertisement? They insisted on filming this. Cosmetics brand. The legendary one, the legendary one. I know it's. It's in Cheng Gu. Went to Japan. Also in the Northeast. So Lin Mei, she shot. It was in the snowy area. She kept stretching out, turning around. Then suddenly, it was like this. I don't know how Lin Mei finished it. It was like this. Okay. At that time, I thought, hey, wait a minute. Is this Wu Fang herself? Is it actually a transfer of energy? That is, this hand. Lin Mei, she had to film that advertisement before she died. She had to show her hand. She had to show her hand, turning around. Turning around in the snow. It was exactly her action at that time. Stretching out. Then turning around. So I was thinking, was it a heavenly omen at that time? Yes. Yes, but it's terrifying. It means there's some energy in that movie. It means that at the end of the movie, it means that she told everyone that she, Lin Mei, before she died, was in the same place. Doing this action. [Sigh] [Inhales sharply] It means everyone has a script. If you describe it like this, it might not be. But I thought about it later. It's the same action. It's the same action. The hand is really turning around. At the end, it was said to be in Qingxin Yuan. It was in the Northeast. It was snowing. It's the same. How terrifying. How terrifying. The incident in 2000, and her in 2003. Right? The advertisement at the end. Exactly the same location, same environment, same hand gesture. Yes. So you say, what did she want me to do at that time? Was it her hand? It's just that some energy transferred her image at that time to the world. Not the whole world, but to the Korean people. This is Lin Mei's gesture. But I also feel, who did this action? Who wanted to show this to people? It's terrifying. But I don't know if Wu Fang herself saw this hand. And her, you know, in 2003, do you remember the incident in 1990? Yes. Would she, if she remembered, think, hmm, isn't this the film from 1990? She would think like this, right? It's really, it's like traveling back in time. Yes. Traveling back in time. But the hand, but at that time, there was no one in front of the crew. Do you understand? No one. They were all hiding behind. How could there be someone? And you've filmed before, you know. It's impossible for a new hand to appear in front of the camera. It's impossible. It's impossible. It's impossible. Yes, it's an impossible situation. And you don't know how wide or how big that shot is. How could a hand get in like that? It's so easy to get into the frame. The whole person is not that precise. It's a curious scene. If you say so. Yes. And when you move your hand, you leave the frame, and you see who it is. Right? There's no one. The director is behind, all the assistant directors are behind, no one is in front, no one is on the sides. No one. So I thought, hey, the hand. I thought, is it from the advertisement? That is, her advertisement before Lin Mei's death. Okay. This is one thing. What's more terrifying? It's that on Thursday, I talked to this friend again. He said, there's one more thing. You didn't tell me everything. What did you do? You didn't tell me everything. I said, you didn't tell me everything. [Laughter] It turns out that at that time, when filming "He Jun Zai Lai", his brain said he would hear it. Originally, when they were thinking of filming Lin Mei, the local village, because you know ancient villages have many rules. The village chief suddenly said, excuse me, you cannot film here starting today. Why? Because our village chief suddenly died. We need to hold a ceremony. So you need to stop for a while. Oh. So, according to his statement at the time, they asked us to stop for a month. He said, a month is not enough. We have to film Lin Mei. A month. All our expenses in Japan, everything. But it's very expensive to come and go. So stop for a week. Give you time to finish your work. Then it's okay. But my friend told him, actually, there might not be any. Yes. Maybe it's the couple. They felt it was a good time to stop. When there were few people, they filmed it. Okay. Oh, yes. Cost is very important. A few more days means a few more days. Exactly. But of course, doing this is a bit unethical. You are in someone else's place, someone else's village. Someone just died, and you're asked to stop for a month. Don't film during this time. Right? Okay. But what's the evil thing? He said, actually, at that time, when filming this part, when the camera was moving, when the person was walking, actually, when they came over, they just missed it. They just missed it. This incident, I heard it, and I didn't get bored. They just missed it. When they passed the road, the village chief's leg just walked out. [Snorts] He said if they had waited a second longer, it would have been in the frame. How terrifying. How terrifying. Then I thought again. Then I thought of something else. Was that hand trying to block the camera? So you can't film? Oh, you're so scared, you know. [Laughter] Obviously, it's a feeling. Oh, I'm so scared. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. When I heard this story, I said, wow, the village chief of that village died. They secretly filmed it. This incident is even more, even more. This incident is crazy, crazy, crazy. There are so many stories that came out. And it just happened. Why do I mention this? Because it just happened. This week, he passed away. So on Thursday, I accidentally asked about this incident. If I hadn't asked, I wouldn't have asked about this incident. It's really like this. Yes. Asking about this incident, he told me a different situation. And I never knew that at that time, the village chief of that village walked out. He could see the whole mountain, the whole mountain walking by. Hey, did it enter the frame? He just missed it. It's evil. It's very evil. Right? So Si, Fei Xian, many people. I thought again, wow, this hand. Is it really trying to stop them? Hey, you don't listen. You're dead. That is, I, I interpret it as. Maybe he felt, hey, you don't listen. You're still filming. Right? That is, even if you block it, it affects you, right? That is, it's troublesome. You and Hai, we are filming. And actually, we don't need us. I think many viewers now know how to film. You think about a wide shot. You have to get that close to the hand. It must be that object. That object is very close to the camera. Yes. It's a close-up shot. Yes. The hand is so big. Yes, it must be very close. That is, normally, many people would see it. If the hand comes out, many people will see it. But no one saw it. Everyone was behind. And all the crew members were looking at the camera. How terrifying. Earlier, a viewer also said that the person in the shot saw it. But the problem is, you saw it, but we outside didn't see it. Right? I, I, I never knew that at that time, because the village chief died, they were talking to you. And the camera just missed it. The people behind them saw the mountain walking by. Did it enter the frame? It didn't enter the frame. It would be a big problem if it entered the frame. It didn't enter. It just missed it. But your hand is really annoying. You're covering it like this. You said, like this. Yes, it must be very close to the camera. It's terrifying. So we were thinking, maybe it's some local spirits who felt, hey, you're going to film, but you can't. That is, they were very polite. They said, please don't film. But you still filmed. Right? I'm thinking about these lessons. Yes. To waste your film. But my problem is, wow. There's such a backstory. Wow. So it's not strange that it's so evil. The whole thing is so scary. It's really scary. Many people are scared. And your crew knows what's going on. Really, wow. You see what's happening. What are you doing? Aren't you scared, man? Because on a big shot, they walked so far. The hand left. It left. It left. It left. So I suspect that at first, you didn't hear what happened behind. If you look back. If everyone watches the last shot of He Jun Zai Lai. They walked so far, so far that the shadow disappeared. I think, anyway, just keep walking. Keep walking. Don't stop. Keep walking. So they walked to who knows where. Honestly. And they might have zoomed in. They kept looking at his back. They might have slowly zoomed out. That is, what they were looking at was further away. But his hand was very close. Yes. But you're making a movie called He Jun Zai Lai. You're filming in your village. The village chief just died. You're asking people about He Jun Zai Lai. Hey, isn't that unreasonable? This incident. Okay, the whole thing is very, very good. And also, our viewers said that the area is more prone to supernatural events. Yes. That is, Northeast, Qingxin, Qingxin Yuan, those strange things. There are many. There are too many. I've been to Qingxin twice, but I haven't played. That is, Qingxin Yuan. Outside, apples are also very famous. But Qingxin apples are inherently strange. Yes. There's a farmer. I don't remember the name. Qingxin apples. He created apples. It took many years of technology. He didn't say how. If you cut the apple, it won't oxidize. It won't oxidize. And you can leave it there for many years without spoiling. It's very strange. This is a mystery of Qingxin. I just saw his interview a while ago. He talked about how he, an old man, has been accompanying this strange variety of Qingxin apples for many years. He said he tried to see monsters at night. There were monsters. He also saw aliens looking at the apples. That's so interesting. Is his farm a farm? You can say that on a farm, so many things happen. So Qingxin has many people. Many people are positive. Because it's a more remote area in the Northeast. And it has many spirits, many ghost stories, many legends. So they filmed there at that time, and the Lin Mei advertisement was also filmed there. In a certain sense, many coincidences happened. I think it's a coincidence, very creepy, many strange things. You expected Wu Fang to show her hand before she died. Or did you secretly film it? So there was a spirit to stop you. Or what? I don't know. But it's certain that there was a hand. There was a hand. And this is. This is just a hand that only spirits can see. It's curious. Oh, this is really terrifying. Terrifying. And this has become a high urban legend in the film industry. But actually, now that so many people have seen it, it's not really an urban legend. It's just that no one in the public has seen it. Actually, I really want to broadcast it, but I'm afraid it's a bit dangerous. [Laughter] Are you scared? Are you scared? It's been so many years. It won't hurt you to broadcast it. It's better. I know who is holding it now. Someone told me. That person told me. He knows who is holding it. I don't know the name. I'll show you. If I know him, I'll ask him. Can I show you? Can I show you? In a coffee shop. Can you show me the film? That would be great. Right? It would be exciting. If so. But the last day, he told me that it has nothing to do with Si Nan Sheng. So who told me? This is also my friend. I really don't know who told me. Not my friends, not the audience, not everyone I know now. Who told me? Movies. I'm not Si Nan Sheng myself, so it's not him who told me. So who told me? This is strange. I've fallen into another dimension again. [Laughter] The result is, it's a matrix. Yes. So this is a shocking and mysterious urban legend in the Korean industry. I think in the TV industry, there shouldn't be sudden appearances of ghosts. Right? I haven't heard of it. Is it like this? I haven't heard of it. It's just that at the end, they go to film in places like tombs. It's very gloomy. In these films, when they appear, I haven't seen it, I haven't heard of it. I remember back then, very early, very early, a self-produced TV series. I don't remember the name, because I was very young back then. Or is it? Is it someone who did it? We fought. I don't remember where it was. I remember there was a Char Siu. Is it Chen? Is it Chen? Is it Chen Wen's husband? So yes. I don't know if he's still her husband or ex-husband or what. Because she never mentions it. Dating. Yes. Yes, it was her. Because she seemed to have developed. In a TVB social drama. Not a romance film. Okay. So, what was said at that time? At that time, when filming a large-scale scene, a black figure appeared behind the crowd. A person. That person was not an actor, not a crew member, not a viewer. It was filmed and appeared. So how did they know at that time? It was that Ah Shi Mai, I don't remember the incident. At that time, they felt it was a ghost. They stopped filming and talked about it on TV. And they broadcast it to the audience. Oh, I remember this incident. Yes, I remember this incident. But I don't remember which drama it was. I really don't remember. And you. The crew. They broadcast it to you. How lenient was it back then? [Laughter] But no one remembers this incident. So, have you, our audience, known about this incident for a long time? Yes. Yes. So I remember that person was called Char Siu. But I don't remember her. Char Siu said she participated in the filming. Hey. She said she was sure. In Japan, maybe they don't know about this incident. Is it? She said at that time, she didn't know. Maybe afterwards, or maybe she knew but didn't say. Because normally, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe some people didn't want to tell Ah. To scare her. To scare her. Because at that time, when everyone wasn't sure what was happening. And at that time, maybe they wouldn't talk about it. They saw it. So maybe the director knew. The director knew. The producer. The director should know. But maybe at that time, he didn't tell the staff around him, the actors. He didn't want to affect their emotions. It's true. If something suddenly happens, people will be afraid to film. Right? Maybe they'll be scared and think, why me? They will be scared. You can't explain it. Movies are evil. The film industry is evil. So people are really scared. Really. Actually, whether it's a TV series, a movie, or even a stage play, we all have to. Yes, yes, yes. You have to respect the local situation. But I highly doubt that in Japan, they have. I believe they will do it themselves. I believe there will be. I hope so. I don't know. Sometimes external things are not just about bowing. It might be because they lost the ritual. Yes. Because with our external things, when we go there, we just do it. That is, the movie might start filming. But especially in a certain place, it might not be done like that. Yes. And sometimes even gods. There will be some creepy things. Yes. It's not that it won't happen. It really will happen. Yes. So sometimes it's not that you're 100% or 100%. Sometimes strange things will happen. Yes. So, you say this incident is really bizarre. It's really bizarre. Thank you for bringing it up. I don't have much memory of this incident. Maybe it's really a movie. I haven't filmed movies yet. It was still in the 90s. It was very new. I had just entered. So I might not have gone to your side. I don't know. Newcomers are still very new. No one will scare you. Maybe, oh, don't film. There are ghosts. I won't do that to you. We are working at TVB. It shouldn't be transmitted to us. Those, they should be professional filmmakers. You know, TVB also has many such stories. [Laughter] Sigh, at most, they'll just joke about it. Yes, yes. It's really scary. Writing really has many such things. Yes. Someone should have told you. Many female stars, not good ones, can't give to men. They hear a lot of things. They threw it away. Uncle Shu died. How many women. They said they saw people. I've heard many such stories. At that time, when I first entered, I thought Uncle Shu's place was abandoned. Okay. Later, it turned out not to be. It turned out that when I first entered the industry, in the late 80s, early 90s, very early. There was a director named Zhang Ya. Still there. Yes. It turns out yes. It was actually a house. It was already there. But there was still Zhang. Why? I went to visit him later. I went to visit him. So I went to Uncle Shu's place. Oh. But not many people lived there. So. Others have already moved out. And he's really too. Too much. He's a bit of a tongue. He has to make a big circle. Because he can't reach places. It's very humid. That is, next to our Qingxin film. It's very gloomy. It's like no one lives there. No renovation. But surprisingly, I went to visit him. It was very early. In the 90s. He was still living there. So I really wanted someone to be there. Because we often talk about ghost stories and are afraid to go near them. We always clear them. There's no reason to come and tell you ghost stories. Many people talked about it at that time. So we entered. We were in the adjacent studio, talking like brothers. At that time, we looked. Wow, we were scared. We were often told at night that there were ghosts. So we said, hurry up and leave. We passed by those places. It was very desolate. Those mountains. There were ancient costumes. Scary things. Then we were always told, don't go around there. Oh, it's so dark. We're going to die. Yes. The ancient street is the most terrifying. Yes. And you see people in ancient costumes walking by. Here? These are temporary actors. You don't know if they are people. They are wearing those ill-fitting ancient costumes. Those ancient costumes. Their hair is like this. You don't know if they are people walking by. You have to go and touch them. At that time, we were also scared. Because we ate. We went out of the studio to chat. There was a floating figure. There was hair. [Laughter] It's really scary. Sometimes at night. It's really scary. When washing hands, people are asked to. [Laughter] It's all rumors. Many rumors. The most recent one is that Uncle Shu's place is next door. No one. Nothing was said. At that time, it was so dark. But no. I really saw it. When you were filming, you wouldn't suddenly say that all the actors would do that together. They wouldn't do that. No. What? I tried filming movies. Movies. We really filmed large-scale scenes. We often waited. Those discs. So you're too brave. So brave. At that time, wow, in those movies, filming discs. Wow. What? You're in a room. There are many. At that time, many fun things. Those hands. It's going to be a disaster. I don't know. Then the finger was put in the eye and moved. They said, it's really scary. It really moved. Sigh. I don't know if someone else is not human. It's really moving. We liked to play with these things at that time. It turns out it's not like this. It turns out playing with discs is even more terrifying. Yes. It's not movies, it's not TV stations. It's movies. In the film industry, many people walk around. You play with these things. People will tell you. People like these strange things. Movies, no one will complain. You hide in the room and wait. Okay. Yes. But when you were playing, did you deliberately ask someone to come up? No. No. Remember. I don't know if I asked. Anyway, there are different problems. Personal legends. I don't remember what I asked. Anyway, hey, really play with those moving things. Yes, don't. [Laughter] You either didn't have that trend at the time. Who died and asked them to come up and talk? Those things. In our industry, it's very mysterious. Because we also want to know about fate. You know, it's about luck. Our items are only beautiful girls. Are you only young? Are you all beautiful girls? No one knows what their future will be. So they ask. They like it. Even the crew. The director and the movie are big. It doesn't mean they will be together. Yes. Now they ask AI. Before, they really asked AI. [Laughter] It turns out AI has become the role of discs and discs. Sigh. Hahaha. I'm a disc. I ask AI everything. You call someone to film. [Laughter] Call someone to be scared. Call someone to be scared. Really call them. [Laughter] AI is even more powerful than Master Huang now, you know? I really ask Master Huang. You have to ask him. He will answer everything. He will answer. But I want to say, I want to finish talking. I'm almost done. It's what? It's that I, actually, I also use AI. But now I feel that AI's content needs to be verified again. Because they always say nonsense. [Laughter] It's always like this. Because, you know, I sometimes watch the world. But I, I'm not, I'm not a football fan. But sometimes I watch their matches. I watch their national matches. It's very exciting. Because I like to watch countries playing against countries. Okay. So that day, which game was it? I don't remember. Anyway, that day. So I don't remember if it was ten o'clock or three o'clock in the morning or five o'clock. I don't remember. So I turned it on. I got up at two o'clock. Okay. So I didn't. I also didn't search for the TV broadcast time. I didn't search. So I directly pressed AI. Hey, I said, who is playing against whom? What happened? It said, it's over. Where? Well, it's not asking for other things. It's over. West Asia Cup. Where, where, it's already started. It's already finished at 3-0. So, and it also analyzed the game for me. Actually, how did it start? How did it happen? It's real. Okay. Everyone listened and felt something was wrong. I always felt that I pressed an AI. Hey, ask me about the game. Is it starting? It's starting. Wow, it's blowing. Yes. Okay. I immediately turned back to the previous AI. I said, hey. I asked the AI next door. It said it hasn't started yet. Huh? It immediately said, immediately charged the money. You use your eyes to respond. You can't give me wrong information. You can't say it's over. It started at ten o'clock. It's over. Your score is whatever it is. Actually, it's good that it's not exactly the same as the players. If it is, then you've made a mistake. It's already analyzed the game. Yes. It's a bit of a script. I believe you're right. But I didn't expect it to be like this. That is, the two AIs. Yes. You have to compare. But every time, it says no. Pay money. [Laughter] I won't let you continue asking. I won't let you scold people. Yes. It's so cute. Now there is. I think there is a spirit to tell you. It's terrifying. It's terrifying. It's terrifying. It's like storing things. I said, hey, I said, who taught you to say such things? It said, no. You, the engineers, are talking like this. Do you have your own thinking? I don't. We are built. So how do you know that some spirits or enlightened people have been injected into your system? And now you're telling me what those enlightened people told me. How do you know? That is, I don't know. You mentioned it again, and I feel it's possible. So you answered me. [Laughter] It's not impossible. Yes. You think it's right. Maybe some newcomers are now in me and telling you things. It's not certain. They really answered me like that. [Laughter] Or maybe they didn't say it all. That is, I thought just now, you thought just now. That is, the current AI. Wait a minute. It answered me like that. It doesn't mean it's a disc. Right? Right. You choose not to believe it. You choose. You don't know which spirit is telling me. So how do I know? Right? Yes. It's crazy. Yes. The more technology advances, or the more technology goes, that's why people say technology is metaphysics. I really think it's the same thing. Yes. It's true. The most scientific is statistics. Data. It's the same. So maybe after 20 or 30 years, someone will explain. A few years ago, Ah Yun Hai and Ah Li talked about a movie. A hand appeared. Now it's explained. Why did the hand appear? It turns out it can be transferred through some dimension. [Laughter] It appeared in the frame. Maybe it will be explained in a few years. It turns out there really is a matrix. That is, they are traveling through time. That place where Ulan Mei filmed. I might not really believe in metaphysics. I really think it will explain everything. Then Elk will make something. You buy stocks. From now on, you want to go to space. Make a movie. Now, use some AI. You buy it. AI. You buy it. Suspense. Mysterious things. In the end, it's something that we can explain with science. Or technology. Maybe not. Of course, at this moment, we can't explain why the hand appeared. We still can't explain it. But now I know who owns that film. So I hope one day I can tell him, hey, who is it? I'll even say the name. Who is it? [Laughter] Let's see. If one day, if you have a chance to be in Hong Kong, and I catch them watching it, we'll watch this film together. Okay, okay, okay. If you come back, definitely come. Let's see if you'll be here. In Hong Kong. Then we'll put it on this show for everyone to see. Hey, let everyone see this film. Real film. [Laughter] Okay, okay, okay. Hello everyone. Do you want to watch it? If we show you the film, do you want to watch it? [Laughter] Hey, it's best if some viewers, of course, you didn't pay. Pay money, it's zero. It's AI. Don't pay, it's not good. [Laughter] It's just forcing people to pay. I think you shouldn't. The whole recipe is made for me. I think it's really crazy AI. It's really crazy now. Even if France and England, no one would have guessed. You've watched it all today. Yes. This third place. I really couldn't guess the recipe. Right? But I also feel like this. I feel that originally when I watched it, wow. It was so uninspired. The French team was completely uninspired. Completely. Like filming a movie. But of course, later they got their spirits back. They played. Yes. But I still feel that England and France together, always these two countries together, they will have a lot of sparks. Yes. No matter what it is, these two are like brothers. They are always like this. Yes. But in the end, I still feel that both teams are gentlemanly. Both teams are gentlemanly. Both are gentlemanly. In the end, they all shook hands. Yes. On the surface, it's all [Laughter]. It's not like tonight's. I think wow. That match was really a family fight. Wow. I think there will be a lot of sparks. I think let's see which team's violence will exceed imagination. Tonight, I'm just watching them wrestle. I think you shouldn't take so long. You should be good. You must watch the game. I will watch it. It's half past three. It's three o'clock. But it's already one thirty. There's a performance. Okay. Yes. So I'll be very early. Yes. Because there's love. Okay. So I must watch. Let's see how they do it. Oh, it turns out it's an hour and a half before. Thank you for reminding me. I thought it was later. I thought there would be a performance an hour and a half before. The closing ceremony. During the halftime break, another half hour. So it starts at one o'clock. One thirty. There should be a performance. One thirty Hong Kong time. One thirty, there will be a performance. Entry. Performance. Three o'clock. Kick-off. Halftime. Another half hour performance. Then the second half. Then after it's over, there's the award ceremony. This time, Trump himself is here. Oh. But it's very bold. Because you know he's always attacked. Hey, someone will do something. Tomorrow, I'll watch it anyway. So I, I'll listen again. Anyway, even if you don't like watching football, hey, the whole process is exciting. Yes. So I'll watch it anyway. Everyone watch together. Hope not. Hope not to see a live broadcast of a hand reaching into the camera. Don't. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. [Laughter] It will become a ghost story for the whole world. [Laughter] Yes. Really. Okay, then we'll talk next time. You said Zhen Hai. We have over 2500 viewers watching us. Thank you all. Thank you all. And thank you all. If I can really get the director's permit, we will show it to you here. Yes. Of course, they might not give it to us. But at least I've asked them. If so. Looking forward to it. I'll tell you who. You said. Okay, okay, okay. 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