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I went through your sales process. I'm like, "Oh, this is how you're emotionally prepping me before the call to get them ready to buy before."
>> So, you saw that before?
Yeah.
>> Rayon, how's it going, buddy?
>> Going on, Jav.
>> Well, I I was I usually say, "Welcome to Miami to everybody, but you you're already here."
>> I am the only one in Miami. Okay.
>> Was this your first mastermind, though, or you've been already through a few ones?
>> This is my first mastermind.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Correct.
>> What do you think about it so far?
I learned how to organize advertising at a way higher level.
>> Really? Like that was a little missing gap for you.
>> I understood specific things, but you put the sequences in place to hit it correctly.
>> Beautiful.
>> Does that make sense?
>> Yeah, of course. Of course. I know exactly what you're talking about. They're probably wondering what the hell they're saying, but I get you. So, brother, like, how did you even get into this world, bro? Can you elaborate that for the people that know don't know?
>> Your world or my world?
>> No, your world.
>> Okay. like h how did you become the person you are right now?
>> Pretty crazy story.
>> Yeah.
>> So, I went to credit repair whatever. I did some credit repair, Airbnb, Turo, all at the same time. Hated service industry.
>> You did too as well.
>> I sucked. Not like at a high level.
>> Oh, I mean I I got to a high level, but then I got screwed over,
>> right?
>> I got out before that happened, but I there's it goes it connects with this story.
>> So, I got I got out of that
>> and then I started learning credit repair. I learned that uh the stuff I was using wasn't working. So then I bought the the legal search engine.
>> Okay.
>> And spent eight months reading hundreds of court cases.
>> I remember you told me that and I was mind-b blown.
>> You know about that story?
>> Yeah. And you told me on the sales call.
>> Oh, for real?
>> Yeah. You're like, "No, I I did this." You quickly mentioned that. I'm like, "Holy crap. Nobody has ever told me that before."
>> Yeah. I don't I don't even think I've told anyone that.
>> Yeah. I mean, you you quickly mentioned it's like, "Oh, I spent like eight months reading some stuff about all the legal things." I'm like, "Yeah,
>> this guy's legit."
So I spent eight months reading hundreds of court cases, learn how the law is applied.
>> Yeah.
>> And not how whatever the Google whatever people think it means.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And then I had to create sequences of the court cases and then train lawyers to go to court and rep the clients because I couldn't be I don't have a law degree. So they tried to arrest me for unauthorized practice of law.
>> Wow.
>> And then uh I'd have them wear an AirPod and I'd talk for them in the in whatever the the sessions, the mediations and stuff like that. Yeah,
>> whatever. I made my letters. We hit a sequence. It worked. We won 40 50 grand from the the CRAAS
>> and then I learned how the pretty much my own credit repair system
>> and then we started using it to get results for my business and then I deleted like a whole bunch of accounts and then I almost quit credit repair
>> because I didn't understand marketing. So no matter how good I was,
>> you're not getting
>> you need clients.
>> You're not getting clients. So then
>> I spent three years losing at marketing. So failure as in no return. I would handw write ads
>> and dissect them and then I went to you
>> and then when you sold me I pretty much it opened the doors of like what's working today. Then I hit a crazy study and now I learn marketing now.
>> Wow. Were you it was this something like like a how do I say like an accident like how how did you become like a credit repair expert essentially? Was it was it was it something that you wanted to do or just happened accidentally?
>> It was an accident.
>> Yeah. That's what everybody that's wanted to It was a complete accident. I used to fight and then I got injured and then when I got injured I had to do something else.
>> What type of fighting?
>> Cage fighting.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. I didn't tell you.
>> No, I didn't know.
>> No, no. I was number one in the state in 2018.
>> What? No, I didn't know that.
>> In Florida. Yeah.
>> Really? That's That's a really cool background.
>> But then I torn torn torn bulging disc.
>> You're all messed up. Yeah. You're like, "Okay, I got to use a computer now." So, uh, so pretty much it was a complete accident essentially.
>> Everything I've done is pretty much an accident.
>> Wow. So that's for everybody that always trying to plan everything is not always you know the way. So now what are you working on now essentially like what is the plan for you now?
>> So now I pretty much learned that no one knows what I know in credit repair
>> as like I'm the only one who does it. So now I pretty much I spent like hundreds of hours simplifying my system into step-by-step instructions and now I just give it to credit repair business owners so they could use it to get better results and then start raising their prices to high ticket because I'll charge I charge 2500 to 6K for credit repair.
>> Yeah.
>> Rest of the industry charges 97 to
>> the highest I've seen.
>> Yeah. No, no one does it.
>> Yeah. That's crazy.
>> So and people buy it like consistently and it's easy because I have no competition because no one knows how to do it.
>> Yeah. Crazy.
>> Does that make sense?
>> Yeah. No, perfect sense.
>> So that's pretty much what I've been doing for other credit repair business owners and they've been getting crazy results so it works. So now that's pretty much all my effort is just
>> helping them get better results to I guess change the entire industry.
>> That's crazy. And what is the main negative things that you see clients need to remove?
>> They have like everything any account on a credit report. The only way people know how to do it, they'll just do fake identity theft reports. That's why accounts come back. I teach them how to do it the real way. So once you send the letter using my techniques,
>> yeah,
>> they they don't come back.
>> That's the only difference.
>> That's powerful. And then most of the industry is not doing like that.
>> Not one person knows it cuz I invented it.
>> Does that make sense?
>> I invented the letterw writing systems
>> from my advertising study.
>> So I took my advertising techniques into credit repair using the laws.
>> Wow.
>> And then that's how
>> that's powerful. You know, I I didn't even know there was clients here that worked with you before
>> in my group.
>> Yeah. I was like, "Damn, that's pretty cool, bro. That's that's how valuable your stuff is."
>> I didn't even know till like till he told me. He's like, "Yo, I'm in your group." I'm like, "Oh shit." All right.
>> Yeah. I found out like five minutes ago. I'm like, "Really? Damn, bro. That's so cool, bro." So, essentially, right now, you're helping other credit repair companies like optimize the credit suite part.
>> I'll help them get results because that's like marketing is easier to solve in that industry,
>> okay,
>> than results.
>> Wow.
>> Because you could just hire a marketing agency. They'll kind of help you.
>> Yeah.
>> You can't hire other people for results cuz no one knows how to do it.
>> Yeah.
>> And then if that happens, you get chargebacks, refunds, and then they go to you.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And what is like some of the difficulties that you're struggling in that business right now?
>> For me? Yeah.
>> Or for them?
>> Well, for both, like the credit repair people, is it just that they were not getting as good a results now with your system, they can finally get good results. But what is now like the bottleneck of your business?
>> My business was essentially just marketing. It was just the marketing. And then I learned that through here and then my extended study after.
>> Yeah.
>> And I solved that problem myself. Now I just have to close more sales and then grow the team. That's it.
>> Yeah. That's pretty much where you're working right now. Like like for 2026 is just sales and team de development.
>> Pure sales and then replacing myself with the salesman. I just focus on the marketing. That's the plan.
>> What about the AI stuff that we talked about? Do you see yourself using any of those bots to improve your processes?
>> 100%. So this is what I'm going to try to do. So, I'm already working on like a AI letter writer to on my specific sequences.
>> Okay.
>> So, when I talk to Clarissa later today, if I can replace like if I can teach the bot to read the credit reports and connect that to my letter writer, it can build out the sequences, which would pretty much automate fulfillment entirely. So, they don't even have to learn my systems and we could just
>> give them the bot. Does that make sense,
>> dude? That that's that
>> that would be crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
>> That would be insane. Charge charge more, bro. That would pretty much change the whole industry.
>> Yeah, I know. You
>> No one would suck anymore. They have the bot.
>> Yeah, that would be
>> if
>> No, I think you could do it because we kind of do a little bit with the funding.
>> So, like if you could done a little bit with the funding, like actually reading a report, I think it could be done with credit.
>> Yeah, if we could nail that, that would be insane.
>> Yeah. So, man, first mastermind, have you already talked about some of the people in here? Have you gotten any value from like the members already here? Cuz like there's probably two members only making like, you know, less than 10 grand. Everybody here is making at least 50k plus a month or something like that. Did you get value from anybody here that you want to share?
>> The most value I got was when I cornered you yesterday because I I didn't like
>> I need to understand this.
>> Yeah. I had a plan.
>> Yeah.
>> That was fire. Um and I told him like, "Bro, you can just call me." Like, "I don't want to bother you." I'm like, "Bro, just call me. You have my number, you know."
>> Yeah. No, I I don't like to be like needy and annoying.
>> No, I don't I don't mind it, bro. I remember the day that you were calling me about some equipment. Remember that day? I'm like, "Yo, what's up, bro? I FaceTime you already." Boom, boom, boom, boom. Like,
>> super quick. That's why I was like, "I don't want to annoy him."
>> N I love helping people, bro. Like, yeah. But, uh, so that was like the main thing that
>> that was the biggest valuewise, but you'll also learn how like the pattern of problems that everyone has. So, it kind of teaches you about business, like where everyone's at. So essentially, everyone's having kind of like the same the marketing issues of where they're at and how they all believe fulfillment is the answer when it's not.
>> So it kind of teaches me how to communicate to my customers based off their problems. Does that make sense?
>> Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
>> So that's how I was looking at that.
>> Bro, I love the way that you're viewing this because it's such a unique perspective, you know? So like I love that [ __ ]
>> As you were guys doing the presentations, I was decoding like the beginning of how they were selling it. So like when she was doing the AI, I knew what she was doing the whole time.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I love that.
>> She would she sold like we're going to replace this. She hit the price minimization and then went into the pitch.
>> Yeah. Yeah,
>> it worked.
>> Yeah, I know. It's crazy, bro. Like honestly, I didn't believe in AI a couple months ago. I didn't even like Why is people calling this thing AI? This thing is just like, you know, it's not really artificial intelligence, you know? So, like I was like kind of a little bit iffy about it, but like recently, bro, is literally getting better every month.
>> And I'm sure like six months from now, it's going to be even crazier. It opened my mind when I was when I was like, if they're doing like emails that are converting humans, it should be super easy to like automate fulfillment for like my
>> That is huge.
>> Yeah. Did you talk to CL about that?
>> I have to book the call with you guys.
>> Yeah, but just just just run if it's possible because she'll probably give you a clear for me. Everything is possible, you know? I'm like it could be done, you know? It could be done, but she's she's she's a technical side, so she'll let you know for sure. But I'm sure there's like
>> a way to be do it. But if you can automate that, you literally would change the industry, you know, and then you can sell that [ __ ] thing for like god knows what, bro. Because
>> you probably just get them all on subscription. Then everyone would just be using us.
>> Yeah. Because if you can get people on I honestly for me charging like 15 grand or 20 grand, whatever the number is is fun and all, but bro, like MMR is like such of like a relief in business. You know, when you create a valuable software or product that people are using monthly, I think that [ __ ] is powerful as hell, bro. because you're not constantly relying on the business starting from zero, which I'm sure that happens to you too, right? Like you constantly have to get new clients. You constantly got to make sell new clients. But if you can build a system that people paying you monthly for, I think that [ __ ] is super attractive. It's like super sexy for me. You know,
>> I've been using one technique that helped with that answer for me specifically. Should I say it?
>> Yeah. I mean, if you want to share, you know, it's up to you.
>> Pretty much I just because information, right, when someone gets it, value automatically dies after use.
>> Exactly. That's what I was saying earlier.
>> That's exactly what you said. I knew what you were talking about. So, what I do is I'll sell my course access or whatever, like my system access, and then I'll charge separately for community access.
>> Does that make sense? So, that way I get them on continuity there. Yeah.
>> And then you don't devalue my personal time helping them and I still get paid both.
>> Oh, I like that. I like that way.
>> At the same time, does that make sense?
>> Yeah. I love that way. Yeah. So, you pretty much sell the information
>> separate
>> from the actual community,
>> from access to mentor, whoever else they need.
>> Yeah. And how are you doing that in like what platform? In school
>> I do school. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Everything in school. That's very unique. So So sell the information separately. Is the information onetime fee?
>> Information will be onetime fee or if they want like extended help like per like me going in training their teams and stuff like that then I'll charge more. But like just for the course access it'll be separate.
>> Yeah. And what can you um talk about the pricing?
>> Pricing. So do I tell the whole price here?
>> If you want to. I mean remember
>> I mean I don't give a [ __ ]
>> All right. It's up to you. Whatever you want to share, bro. you know, like what what will be the the the the the the price of just the information?
>> Okay, just information alone, I'll hit them for like 3500 as in like you're doing it yourself without me involved at all. But
>> yeah,
>> the way I simplify my stuff in actual group, it's literally like I'm with you. Does that make sense?
>> Yeah, said it was incredible.
>> Yeah, it hurts to make it simple and I I did the pain. So for you, it's
>> And then the the monthly, what do you have? Where are you charging for that for the community?
>> 47 bucks.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. But they have to get the course to get in. Like I don't let you in the group unless you get that. Does that
>> Yeah, cuz then what's the point?
>> Yeah. No, you're not going to use You can't have access to [ __ ] It'll say that like on my about page. It'll be like you have to book a call first or you're going to get nothing and not get a refund.
>> Dude, I like that. That's a good strategy. Where did you get that strategy? You've
>> not surprised, bro.
>> So the pricing book.
>> Yeah,
>> that was it. I
>> The pricing book.
>> You didn't You didn't read that?
>> Yeah, of course. it. You didn't see that part.
>> Yeah. That's awesome, bro. So, pretty much for 2026 is building a team and just working working better on your sales process essentially is the goal.
>> Yeah. The the goal is pretty much just to nail it real quick. I know that sounds stupid because it's not quick and it hurts. So, just nail the sales.
>> Yeah.
>> And then I just want to focus on the marketing even though that hurts more, but it's
>> What What do you feel you're lacking on the sales part though?
>> Closing.
>> Do you have a low closing rate? My close r's like 25 to 30% right now.
>> Well, that's pretty pretty standard though. But you
>> dog [ __ ] for me. Like I know I could do better. Like I'm seeing closes that should have been closed but they're not. Does that make sense?
>> Yeah. And what is the main reason why when they're not closing is a capital issue like they don't have
>> money objections? No, it's not even that. It's internal fear that they can't do it themselves plus money objections at the same time. So I'll hit I'll hit an objection se sequence whatever. I'll overcome one, but I'm not skilled enough to I need more reps. I need more reps in the objection sequences themselves to learn that. That's what I'm doing now.
>> Yeah, we were talking about that briefly that like I sell very logical, you know, so when somebody tell me something that doesn't make sense, I'm very upfront. I'm very straightforward. So yeah, I feel Yeah, I mean that's something but honestly like Alex said this like the sweet spot is around 30% closing rate because if you get to 50% that means that you're
>> you're charging too little.
>> Exactly. He'll say 45. You go over charging too little, but I'm still like 25ish when I know like 35 is not a
>> Yeah,
>> that's not a lot of money.
>> Well, it all depends on on the credit repair company, too, cuz it could be a lot of money for the depending on the level they have.
>> It'll be like in tiers, though. So, I'll target bigger dogs. But thing is like the big dog ads even with the no matter how much you target, you'll still get the little bisop guys who are
>> all the time.
>> That's the problem. Yeah. So right now you're just marketing to uh credit repair companies that don't have the process dialed in.
>> Yeah. Like that are already popping but just want better results.
>> Wow.
>> So like they understand marketing sales so I don't have to start them from scratch. That's the
>> that's the worst part.
>> Yeah. I don't want to do that.
>> But they still come.
>> Yeah. No, I mean that that happens to me all the time, you know.
>> You take them or no?
>> Sometimes like Iman is one of them. You get me? He just completed brand new but he's like
>> he jumped on the call. Hobby. I'm ready to learn how like he was like very adamant. You get me? David was another one too that he's like, "Bro, like I know I'm not making any money cuz I usually I want to work somebody who's making like 20k per month so I can make get them to 50." Cuz for me it's a lot harder going from 0 to 10. Oh man, very difficult. 10 to 100 or 50 or whatever the number is, it's a lot easier for me.
>> Even when I came, my skill set wasn't good enough to perform. So it took me 6 months of increasing the skills to now I'm performing like instantly. I'll just hit it and it worked. It takes time and that's something that I was talking to people that like usually people ask me about how long does it take
>> and I always tell them well you don't have a landing page first so don't worry about ROI you know first you don't have an you know first build the business then you worry but usually what I've usually seen it's like six to maybe eight months till you can kind of get the hang of it and then after that it's like that's when you start printing you know so usually the timeline so you're up about there bro so it's not that not so bad so man um anything else you would like to share or that you want to say to like maybe some future or potential clients that be watching watching you right now.
>> Well, we technically have the same customer. So,
>> yeah. Well, I mean, not really cuz I'm credit repair
>> uh cuz I do work with tax people, credit people, and insurance people adding funding.
>> You're working with credit repair
>> making their systems better, you know? So, like it's not really the same offer. You get me? So, I mean, anything you would like to share to those people,
>> right? So, pretty much if you could afford me, go to credit repair world.
>> Go to credit world.
>> I love this guy. Well, if you can afford me,
>> go to credit repairworld.com. If you cannot afford me, you could go to credit repairpar world.com. Uh, hit the form, you'll get disqualified and we'll give you my books.
>> Wow.
>> Which will give you the same system. You just got to do it yourself. But the way in credit world when we actually do it with you, like we show you how it's done, uh, I have a system where you only work in the business one week every two months and you'll still get all my results like that. That's the point of the system. That's the magic.
>> Wow. I like that.
>> We get you out of the business so then you could focus on the marketing sales and then charge high ticket.
>> Okay. And when you're saying that people can't afford you is a bit are you are you doing like financing at all or they just have to pay you with in-house financing?
>> It depends. I have payment plans but like we have multiple tiers. So 3500 is the lowest option.
>> Okay.
>> So we have like a 8K and a 15K version where like I'll go and I'll train your entire team myself and you do nothing.
>> Okay.
>> But that's for like the big dogs.
>> Okay. Make sense? So like
>> we find a way to make it work. It's just up to you if this is what you want. Like if you want to get better results and that's like the stopping your business from growing, then then you should do it. If not, you don't need it.
>> Dude, I love that, man. So, essentially, one of the main reasons you joined ours is because you had a missing gap in the marketing.
>> I had a marketing issue.
>> Did you already understood a little because I feel like you were like more a little bit more advanced than the regular person.
>> I was only advancing copywriting, not marketing systems. That's what took me the six months to learn when I started going through everyone's funnel. Yeah.
>> And seeing that's what what helped me on the sales call. You taught me what was working today.
>> I only knew copy strategies
>> from back then.
>> Direct mail [ __ ]
>> And you learned that because that that business, right? Just sending out a bunch of
>> I learned it because I I went so far back in my like to learn advertising like I went Gary Halbert, Jean Schwarz,
>> Dan Kennedy, like people who are dead.
>> You feel me? Like
>> I went there for a year of handwriting ads like thousands of pages.
>> Yeah.
>> And then I went to like modern like now and I'm writing like seven page sales letters on landing page. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't work.
>> Different game. So essentially you you understood
>> like the the the the world but the technical side it was the reason why like I need this guy. I need to work with this guy.
>> I understood copy in one format sales letters.
>> Yeah. And what made you what made you I love I love your answers bro it's this is fun bro what made you even uh join us in particularly why didn't you choose any other person
>> when I bought you I didn't buy a funding company I bought a marketing system
>> so like that's what
>> but what gave you the the the I guess the confidence to even go and get it from for me
>> you were working modern like you're working right now
>> and that's what changed my entire essentially perception of you just went through process yourself.
>> I went through your sales process. I'm like, "Oh, this is how you're emotionally prepping me before the call to get them ready to buy before."
>> So, you saw that before? Yeah. And that's I'm like, "This is a sales process." So, then
>> I went through hund I went through everyone's sales process like that's popping on
>> Yeah.
>> advertising right now.
>> Yeah.
>> And then I made the patterns and then I found out what was working. That's how it works.
>> Dude, that's amazing, bro. No, I I I Damn, bro. That's I didn't even know that you
>> No one knows. I didn't tell no one that. Yeah,
>> I didn't even know, bro. Damn. But that's awesome, bro. So, you pretty much saw, okay, this guy I could trust this guy because I just I know it works because I just went through it.
>> It worked on me.
>> Yeah. That's why I I I dude like the question I never get is like, does this work?
>> I'm like, how how are you sitting in front of me? You get me? So, that's like the one thing I never get, you know? I get other objections like mainly price, but I never get like the objection, how do I know this work? I'm like, how are you sitting on this sales call? You get me? So, that gives you the confidence pretty much to be like I'm going to work to this guy because
>> I I see it like I see right in front of me how the sales process is and how his marketing works and now you just and especially today you got more clarification or I think yesterday when we sat down quickly oh how to structure advertising with top of funnel, middleunnel and bottom of funnel that once you're scaling that's when like it really matters.
>> I was hitting the awareness stages incorrectly that's the problem.
>> Yeah. Like you were
>> I was going product right away.
>> Yeah. Top of funnel. Yeah.
>> And then I was getting [ __ ] quality leads because I guess everyone it makes everyone at the top believe, "Oh, it works." And I that's my perception. I don't know if it's accurate.
>> Yeah.
>> But I was getting trash cans.
>> Well, the main thing is that if they if you go to a testimonial or result based on cold, they don't know who you are and they're just going to click or whatever. So that's why you use it for retargeting for the people who already know who you are. So it can push them off the edge, which we already talked about a lot a little about that about that. And I get I'm going to give you the SOPs, buddy. Don't worry about it cuz I know you're like, "Give me the SOPs." You know,
>> that's what I wanted. Yeah. They're not ready for proof yet. That's the problem.
>> Yes.
>> I'm just pushing people like just
>> I was just [ __ ] up.
>> Yeah, man.
>> [ __ ] up.
>> Hey, but at least at least you learned it, bro. But um
>> Yeah, bro. Like, thank you so much for for for coming, you know? Like I was like, "Hey, you should come just to meet and you're like, "Hey, [ __ ] it." I was like, "You're already in Miami." You get me? Like
>> I even said no at first. I'm like cuz I'm like, "I know what I have to do. I have to do sales. I need to fix this shit." And then you're like, "I'm here." You're like, "Bro, you live here?" I'm like, "All right,
>> that makes sense." Yeah. And uh for me, bro, it's like about the masterminds, too, is like the the people around it. Like I don't know if you got some other um value insight from other entrepreneurs here, but like dude, sometimes you get like the little piece of nugget that makes you more money. Like I go to different masterminds and some guy says like, "Oh, this ad is making me a lot of money." And I go try it then boom. Or like this landing page. Like I went to some some uh a mastermind while ago and the guy was crushing it through webinars. I'm like, "Okay, I got to start doing webinars." Webinars.
>> Yeah, bro. And
>> you taught me that with static ads.
>> Yeah. I'm not using picture ads at all. So now I have to go make picture ads top of funnel then start hitting them with the videos.
>> Oh, so only all you have right now is video.
>> I'm going straight raw dog videos.
>> Yeah, we're I do the same thing. Are you doing uh uh on Facebook and Instagram or only Instagram?
>> Plain Instagram. I'm not even making enough to hit two two medias yet. Does that make sense?
>> Yeah, of course. So definitely static video retargeting.
>> Static video retargeting.
>> Yeah, like static for broad. Get people into the ecosystem see your face just to push them over the edge. Because all the the hammer them strategy type of videos is all on the thank you page and it it can't be static. You can't hammer them with static, right?
>> You get me? It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't click.
>> It doesn't work. So like that's why you got to get their attention with with static. And the reason why I like static is that they see your whole offer in one frame.
>> You get me? So that gets them interested and then the rest of the funnel is convincing them.
>> You're hitting a deal like a an offer in the static.
>> Yeah. Like the offer shows essentially what we do. Like remember the Twitter ads I showed you? Here's how we help you hit like six figure months. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Then somebody sees that, they're like, "Oh, I'm interested." Click. Now they're in the ecosome ecos even though they didn't book or not. Maybe they hit follow. Maybe they DM me or whatever it is.
>> So your objective with static ads is just to get them to hit the landing page to retarget. That's it.
>> Yeah. Or no to essentially to book calls. You get me? But the people that don't, that's when you hit them with the videos.
>> You get me?
>> Got it. But the thing is if dude bro if like
>> your videos are working do it
>> exactly. So like it's like I love Jeremy Hes says all the time that he's like you know Jeremy H right
>> Jeremy H.
>> Jeremy H. You don't know who he is.
>> So all he does is talk about hitting million dollar months. Right. He's the one who created the Hamilton strategy.
>> Okay.
>> Right. Well, which is like I call it the objection prevention method but there just multiple names for this stuff. So essentially it's just giving them it's a 7-Eleven for Google rule. Like do you know about that study that it takes him usually seven times?
>> Yeah, exactly. So that's just a systemized way to do that, right? So that's why the systems were created. But um like there something that he always says, I don't want to be right. I just want to make a [ __ ] ton of money.
>> I love that [ __ ] Like I don't care about being right. So like if like carousels are popping off,
>> I'm going carousel. You get me? And the reason why I love statics, bro, that is one it's easy to make. Now AI makes it for you and there's no scripting, editing, or anything involved. It's literally
>> pump. Yeah. Generate, generate, test. And like there there's no easier I think it's getting so much easier these days that like I'm going to get out of job eventually. I'm going to be out of a job because it's getting so much easy, bro. Like I'm sure there's going to be a point that's going to be AI tool that runs ads.
>> Guaranteed, bro. Like the way this thing is heading, anything that's technology based, there's going to be an AI bot for it,
>> you know?
>> Yeah, I know. I But I'm going to be out of the job, bro. I need to start I start
>> running up right now.
>> I had to start spinning up right now, bro. But um yeah, man. to wrap it up here cuz um we have to go soon. Anything else you want to say to maybe somebody who's listened to you um uh that maybe wants thinking about joining you? Anything that you can push him over the edge?
>> Push him over the edge. Um he could get you better results that you can you know
>> just compare it like this. Just just keep trying what you're trying.
>> Yeah.
>> And once you're sick of it, then just go to creditworld.com.
>> Oo. So keep failing when you notice that okay, I'm done failing. I need some help. Once you're ready for change.
>> Yeah.
>> You go there.
>> Yeah. Because you don't want to talk to me like, "Well, I'm thinking about it."
>> I don't want someone who thinks who's not enough. Like, I'm I'm good. I could keep trying. [ __ ] that. Keep trying. Get your failures up and then come to me.
>> All right, buddy. Well, that that's it. Um, where can they find you?
>> I know you said it briefly, but for say at the end, like what are the social medias and school, too, you can mention?
>> You could go to creditrepairworld.com. You can find me on school at creditrepairworld. I have my Instagram, Big K Ray, and I have three books that you could find on Lulu or if you just get denied from credit repair world when you apply, then you'll find it.
>> Don't have a YouTube channel yet.
>> I don't think I I might have it.
>> You You need to start it. I just don't know the name. I'm not like Does that make sense?
>> Yo, you need I'm telling you, bro. Once you get your first show to YouTube, you're going to be like
>> because the sales calls are even shorter, like 10 minutes usually.
>> When they read my books, it's like that. So, it's the same effect just because what I was telling these people that people they're selling themselves when they watching your content. So, definitely uh start the YouTube channel at least one video a week. All right.
>> Got it.
>> All right, buddy. Well, thank you so much for for being here and thank you so much for for being part of this mastermind. Okay.
>> Thanks for uh forcing me to come.
>> All right. Come on, bro. I know you want to go, bro.
>> I'll give you some value, bro. I know it will.