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I would say he is right about the two personas. And I think that everybody understands this on some level. On my show, I make jokes and I use rhetoric and I'm hyperbolic. Uh, because for a long time, I had an audience that was small on these like dissident platforms. I was on DLive for many years. A lot of people don't even know what that is. And so I had a small following and we had sort of like an in-group sense of humor and memes and things like that. And you talk about it one way on a freewheeling live stream when I'm by myself and I'm ranting and we make jokes and, um, we play devil's advocate. We play with different positions. But then when you sit down in an interview like this one and people ask me a good faith question, "What do you actually believe?" Well, then I clarify and I say, "Well, here I'm not joking. Here I'm not being hyperbolic. I'm not being rhetorical. I'll tell you precisely what I believe." As far as this idea that I'm going to get power and then turn into Hitler, that just sounds totally insane to me. I'll be honest. It just sounds insane.
"You're always coming up with, 'No Jews. No, it's not women. No, it's not blacks. It's actually really complicated.' No, it [ __ ] isn't at all. Jews are running society. Women need to shut the [ __ ] up. Blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part. And we would live in paradise. It's that simple."
"That's 100% true. Everything I said in that clip is true."
"Including that, uh, blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part."
"Uh, yeah. Yes. Well, all of them."
"No, for the most part."
"What does 'the most part' mean? What percentage of American blacks would you like to see in prison?"
"Uh, whatever the percentage of the murderers. I think it's one in 20 black men will commit a murder in their lifetime. So maybe let's say that 5%."
"Oh, so you're talking about black people who murder people."
"Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah."
"But you didn't say that. You just said blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part. You didn't clarify that. You were talking about black murderers."
"Right? Right. No, you're right. That's a good addition to that. That's a great point."
"You think it's..."
"I think, yeah, I do. I think it's hilarious. I think it's totally true."
"Do you think a black American would find it funny? Do you think that that blacks should be imprisoned? For the most part?"
"Blacks are my biggest fans. I get high fives all the time. They say, 'Nick Fuentes, I love your show.' They agree with me. And you want to know why? Here's the difference. Black people are the most victimized by other black people. You think black people want to live in the hood and the ghetto and get shot all the time? That's what happens in the South Side of Chicago. You should come here. I'll take you there. We could go to Garfield Park."
"Some went to Chicago University for a year, actually, several years ago. Yeah, that's a bubble. That's a bubble. You think you're in Chicago and Hyde Park, you don't know Chicago. Go a little bit west. See what it's like over there. And I'll tell you, black people agree with me because they're tired of it, too. And maybe not most of them, but a lot of them agree with what I say about that because they know how it is. That's why the first thing they do when they make a little bit of money is they go and leave to another neighborhood."
"Okay. So, what was..."
"I'm going to take a pause on the facts."
"I mean, that's a fact."
"If, if you're to asking me, do I think that people that kill people need to go to jail? I think that's an undeniable fact."
"For sure."
"I think that a lot of the crime against other black people that comes from black people is a problem. We've said that on this channel a hundred times."
"Two plus two."
"I mean, it's like, it's like I can't, it's like I'm not going to be offended at something that I've also said."
"No, Pierce. He just said, 'Oh, I went to Chicago University.' That's the problem. He said my son did."
"But whatever. He, he, you, a lot of these liberals. I'm not gonna say Pierce is a liberal. I don't know what he is, but a lot of people that try to sugarcoat what's going on in the black community and in the hood don't have, never been to the hood and they have never been around black people enough to know what black people do. So..."
"I mean, we just watched a video of a birthday party getting shot up. I mean, these are the type of people and type of things that happen in the hood. I mean, it may not happen at the rate people try to deny it, but the fact that it happens is enough to make these type of comments. I think those people need to go to jail. I've said that on this channel, too. I've said that the crime that black people commit against other black people is a problem. We talk about that on this channel all the time. We get accused of being coons, sellouts, tap dancing for white. So, it's like, bro, I, I'm a black person. I see crimes committed against people that look like me by people that look like me. I take issue with it. It doesn't matter who agrees with me. It's a problem."
"These conservative ideologies are two plus two."
"It's really not even, it's really not even a conservative ideology. I really just feel like that's just a factual ideology. If you kill people, you should go to jail."
"Period."
"That's what jail is for."
"Conservative liberals are literally letting people out there committing."
"It is a conservative take talking point as well. But the fact that, okay, so if, if the stat is correct, one out of 20."
"I, okay, he, Pierce is going to say that's not correct. But let's, let's..."
"Well, let's look it up real quick."
"Well, Pierce, let's see what Pierce has. Let's, this..."
"Let's look it up real quick. Real quick."
"His rebuttal is a liberal rebuttal to me. Let's hear what he says. But yeah, you can look it up if you want to, cuz he said they got people on the show fact-checking right now. But either way, I, it doesn't have to be fact-checked to me. We see day-to-day. I'm black. I'm around black people all the time."
"They know. It's interesting. People make comments on us like, 'Oh, you guys don't be in the hood. Y'all don't be around black people. Y'all hate black people.' No, we don't. I literally, literally am black. All my friends are black. I'm a black guy. I mean, like, what?"
"Yeah. It said the one under 20 stat. Pierce, I mean, not Pierce. Nick said that he got that from somewhere. Maybe it's wrong or maybe it's right or wrong. Who knows? But we know what we see day-to-day."
"This is that according to Grog. That's that isn't..."
"Yeah. No."
"Well, I'm just going to keep it 100. I'm just going to keep it 100. If you kill people, you should go to jail. It doesn't matter what ratio."
"I feel like we honestly shouldn't be saying that on the freaking mic."
"I just think that's, I just think that's just a factual statement."
"Let's hear what Pierce say."
"That's why the first thing they do when they make a little bit of money is they go and leave to another neighborhood."
"Okay. Okay. So, what was, just remind me again, the percentage of black men who commit murder in America. What was the percentage you gave me?"
"It's one in 20. One in 20."
"It's, it's one in 100."
"No, it's one in 20."
"No. No. Less than one in 100 black US men commit murder. That's the most up-to-date crime statistics in America."
"That's not true. I, I've seen other statistics. They say one in 20 will eventually commit a murder. I have. Your rate means that you're, you're saying that five times as many black men commit murder as the official crime statistics say."
"Yeah, there's a report, I believe, on X by Data Hazard. I'll have to go and double check that for you, but yes, there is some pretty shocking evidence that says that it's far more alarming than you would think."
"Okay, you would accept the official crime statistics?"
"No, let's take it. We do need to take it. We do need to take it stat. I don't care about the stat. I, I mean, I care. I care about stats and facts and speaking the truth."
"Well, I mean..."
"He said Data Hazard."
"Look at the end of the day."
"Here's a..."
"We know what the hell's going on. Got to get stats wrong every day."
"Here's a, here's a black male violent death rate. It says in 2022, out of 100,000 black males, 56%, 56.4% died by homicide."
"Right. So, but the, the stat that I do always look up and I've checked like three or four times on different websites and everything. Black men are responsible in America for 56% of every single murder committed. That is a stat that is concrete that you can look up that I'm very confident in."
"What'd you say?"
"Uh, black men are responsible for 56% of all murders in the US."
"Let's let them continue, guys. But let's look, look. Let's forget the fact. Let's forget the. Do y'all want to live in the hood and do y'all want to go to the hood?"
"We know. So, that's, let's. We're not, we're not arguing. Hold on, brother. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We're not arguing the contrary at all. We know what side we're on with this argument, but it's just for the sake of the argument. So that when the other side tries to push back, you have numbers and facts to back up what you are saying. But..."
"Well, it says it says right here for FBI crime statistics, 55.9% of known homicide offenders were men and women. They're black."
"That's that you can find anywhere. That's on the, that's on the FBI crime report."
"So, you know that. Hold on. But how I move around black people."
"Oh, the stuff says. No, that's not how we're doing."
"That's called anecdotal data."
"We're not doing that. We're not. Nobody's saying, 'Oh, the stat says that.' No. No. We're going off of how we feel and what's happening day-to-day. Point blank. Period. That's why I want to go off no more stats. That's why I didn't like that argument. The stats argument doesn't matter. Pierce, would you go there? Pierce, would you go there? No. Would you watching this video go there? No. So, we don't think about stats when we're going off. I, I like to, I like to speak the truth. I like to use..."
"I mean, I mean, you are thinking about stats because in 56%..."
"You don't think about that when you see like you said at the baseball park example, when you come out the baseball park and see a bunch of black people sitting there and Nike takes some poo shot, you going to think about the stat then?"
"Yes, I'm going to think about black people are more likely to kill statistically speaking."
"I think we going to think about that cuz we know what we see day-to-day."
"Both. It's both true. We know it's true at the end of the day. That's not an argument."
"So, I don't like that stat argument. But I mean, hey, let's, let's..."
"And double check that for you. But yes, there's some pretty shocking evidence that says that it's far more alarming than you would think."
"Okay. But you, you would accept that the official crime statistics are one in a 100, or you wouldn't accept that statistic?"
"I, I don't know. I don't have it in front of me. But I've seen other evidence. Like I said, Data Hazard on X, I believe, produced a report about a year ago. It said one in 20. But I mean, whether it's one in 20 or one in 100, that's a lot of people, Pierce. I mean..."
"A lot of white people commit murder, too."
"That's what I don't like."
"Well, they do, don't they?"
"Okay. But it's about, it's about proportionality. I mean, white people are 65% of the population. Blacks are 13%."
"Mhm."
"And I think anybody would tell you that more black people proportionally commit violent crime than white people. And people vote with their feet. People would rather pay a much higher property tax."
"Most with the interruptions."
"I'm sorry."
"Thank you. I appreciate that. You know, you look at in Chicago, in New York, these neighborhoods are so stratified. People would rather pay a high tax rate. They'd rather pay a much higher property value to live in a less diverse, less black neighborhood because they don't want to live around the violence. And I think that when you look at even on the public transit, the subway, the blue line, you know, people don't want to go there because they know who occupies and menaces the public transit. It is, uh, these people like Daniel Penny had to deal with. It's people like Arena Zerutka had to deal with. And, uh, and that's just the uncomfortable reality."
"You've also said you don't want to live near black people. Well, let's take a listen to this clip."
"Like, you want..."
"I'm a new generation of white person. I'm not living around blacks. Sorry."
"You know, I want white kids and I don't want my white kids bringing home black people to..."
"Okay. All right. Okay. We know what he's going to say. And this is where I'd be like, 'Okay, Nick, you have your right to your opinion.' I don't agree with the opinion. Probably nobody in here does. I know nobody agrees with that opinion. That's where we stop it at."
"Person. I'm not living around blacks. Sorry. You know, I want white kids and I don't want my white kids bringing home black people to marry. It's racial for me. And call me racist. Oh, very Christian to you. I don't give a [ __ ]. I mean, it couldn't be clearer, really. Um, unless you want to say that's another of your jokes, but you're basically saying, 'Yeah, I'm a racist, aren't you?'"
"Uh, yeah. Yeah, I'm fine with that."
"You're fine with saying you're a racist?"
"Totally. I think everybody's racist. I think everybody, if we're being honest, is racist. I think everybody. And the only people that aren't racist or pretend not to be are white people to their detriment. Everybody else is racist."
"You sp- you earlier in the interview, you, you went really aggrieved at the idea that your father was a racist. You, you wanted to make emphatic..."
"Because my father's..."
"He's not..."
"Because my father doesn't share my same views on that. So he's the exception to the everyone's a racist."
"Well, everybody's a little bit racist. You're right. So maybe everybody. The difference is you're attacking my father. You know, he can get fired from his job."
"I'm not attacking your father. I, no, I'm not. I don't know your father. And to be clear, I, I have no knowledge about him at all. Other..."
"Well, then let's leave him out of it. Let's leave him out of it if you don't know him."
"Hang on, Nick. Look, you've admitted you're a racist."
"Correct?"
"Yes. 100%. Own it."
"Okay, that's fine. You're perfectly entitled in a free democratic society to say."
"Okay."
"I mean, I, I believe we've admitted that he is a racist. I mean, I've said on here before that he has said he wasn't. So, I'm, I'm wrong. I said that he was. I mean, I said that he had racist opinions. You don't have racist opinions if you're not a racist."
"I said he was. I said he was."
"This ain't about me."
"Is you racist?"
"No, at times."
"Are you racist?"
"At times."
"I'm racist, too, man. Black people are racist at times."
"I'm not gonna say that."
"Just don't admit it then on the mic. It's all right here, man."
"He is, guys."
"No, he is. Every time you could be racist towards white people and black, like you could be racist towards Mexicans, you know."
"I don't hate anybody because of their race."
"Everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think if there's a reason I dislike someone, it's because of their behavior or something that they're doing that's detrimental to me. I would never just look at someone and say, 'Hey, I don't like you because you're that race.' Color place or a certain gallery because of a certain group of people there. If you see that certain group of people wearing a certain type of thing and I don't know having a certain type of. Wouldn't that go back to what I said that I wouldn't go, I wouldn't go to a certain place because a certain type of people that would exhibit a certain behavior that I don't want to be around? Would that make me a racist?"
"Yeah."
"No, no, no. Because no, no, no, no. Hold on. Hey, I don't like the way those guys act. So, I'm not going to hang out over there."
"Hold on real quick. It's not racist because..."
"It's not the race that's the problem. The..."
"Behavior. Because why don't we feel that way about the BCF? Hold on, bro. We go to the BCF. We can go to anything that's, you know, educate the golf course, a all black golf event, something like that. I'm fine with a black church because these things, the type of black people that you're going to get there are not going to be. Remember, there are two different races of black people. Behavior."
"You have black people who are normal, regularly functioning black people. Then you have ninjas. And the ninjas are the difference. Nobody wants to be around ninja people talking about black people because of their black skin. We're talking about behavior. Every time I get on here and I make a negative comment or I go hard on somebody because of the behavior they're exhibiting. It's not because there are certain. You can say the same thing about white people though. You won't go to the most racist town in America. Why?"
"Because of their behavior."
"Okay. So, if, if it's equal, but you go to some white places and you be, I'm fine."
"But it's the same thing."
"That's not a race thing. That's not racist then."
"That's not a race thing. It's because of the behavior they exhibit. If a wolf tells you he a wolf, why would you go around a wolf and get mad that you got bit?"
"I feel like I mean..."
"I don't want to go around wolves cuz wolves bite. Oh, there's wolves over there. I'm not going over there. There are wolves over there. I'm not going over there. That doesn't make you a racist. Yeah. Come on, man."
"That's just like. Yeah."
"But they're they're saying that his comments after the ballpark, I see a group of five black guys. Why don't I go over there?"
"Did you hear what? Because they're black. He's not going over there because they're black. Their race is the reason why he's avoiding them. That's racist. I'm not avoiding people because of their race. I will avoid people because if I see a group of young men over there being rowdy and loud with ski masks on, they're exhibiting behavior that I don't want to be around."
"But you know, your life experiences are different than a regular white person's life experiences."
"I don't know what point you're trying to make here. The point I'm trying to make is if I'm white and I see some black people after, I don't know, late at night, I don't know what type of black people these are cuz I'm not around black people. So my assumption is, let's just stay away. You know what type of black people you're dealing with."
"But I think that's more prejudice."
"Walking past uh how does he look?"
"But I think that's not, I think that's prejudice."
"They don't know how he looks. We do."
"Put yourself in their position and not in our position."
"I think it's a difference between prejudice and racism. I think racism is you inherently don't..."
"Is that a fact what I just said?"
"It is a fact. It is a fact. But that's prejudice. That's my point. It's just like, okay, you're prejudging them based on certain things."
"We can't call them racist."
"So, I think everyone. I wouldn't say everyone is racist, but everyone does have prejudice."
"And that's what we, we have been called into now saying it's racist."
"Yeah."
"That's all I'm saying. So, everybody does have a little bit of it."
"Prejudice based off their life."
"Everyone has prejudice. Like, like, you know, if you go a bunch around a bunch of Mexicans, you might assume one of them, you know, can cook tacos. But does that make you a racist? No. That's just a prejudge, you know, based on..."
"So saying black people are violent. What is wrong with..."
"Nothing wrong with that because statistics show that it's true."
"Let's stop calling people racist for saying it. That's..."
"We don't know."
"I'm just saying."
"But we said he racist cuz he said I am racist."
"I think when he says yes, I am racist. I mean, somebody ask say, 'Are you racist, bro?'"
"Yeah."
"I'm just going to, I can admit it. Some people just don't want to admit that. I mean, that's what you're saying."
"We're not racist. I mean, I'm not, I'm not liking. I, I don't dislike people based on their skin color."
"I don't think any, I don't think a lot of people. Some people..."
"Well, I just told you if, if you're exhibiting a certain behavior that I, that I deem as negative and I don't want to go around it, I don't think that makes me a racist."
"Not all of these people..."
"Because of their skin color, that is racist."
"Correct."
"Yes."
"I do not think that Nick does that."
"I think he does that all the time."
"And I think that he said at the beginning, I have black friends."
"Yeah, sure. But he just, he just openly admitted that he's a racist. I'm not going to defend him. I do too."
"I'm not going to defend him, too."
"So, what are we saying here?"
"You're almost defending his views. I'm not, I'm not on here to defend his views personally."
"I am personally."
"I think he's a grown man. He can defend his own views. If he, if he says something that I agree with, I'll say, 'Hey, I agree with that.'"
"Like he said, 'Black people defend him all the time.' I guess I'm one of them that's defending them."
"I think that he has points, but you don't have to agree with every point."
"I don't want you to bring a black. Okay, look, that's what's racist. Don't say, 'Oh, I'm not going to bring...'"
"He's racist. He said it. I'm not, but he said he's, he's a self-admitted racist."
"I don't know."
"There's no reason to defend him."
"Also, the reason also said that he was racist is because of the JD Vance comment. How he call. Guess what? That was one."
"That's right."
"I mean, I would be mad if my daughter brought away home. But do I personally want that?"
"No."
"Why would, why do you care that tells me that?"
"Why do you care, though?"
"I mean, I don't, I mean, it's just like..."
"Why would you care?"
"If it was a good dude, why would you care?"
"I mean..."
"If he was a good dude, why would you care? He treat your daughter, right? I'm just saying I, I mean, I..."
"Because based on all your arguments, is there a better chance that he's going to treat her right or one of your fellow brothers?"
"The white boy might treat her better."
"So why wouldn't you want..."
"I don't know though. You never know though. You never know."
"You do never know. But I'm just saying, why do you care? You should not care about the race."
"I shouldn't care. But I would..."
"You shouldn't care about how they treat."
"If a white boy tells me this that I hang around, be like, 'You know what, bro? I'm not mad at you for that.' Yeah. Let him bring a white boy. I'm not mad at you for that."
"I listen to. We listen to all the time."
"No. And my also point..."
"He said, 'I don't want no black boy slanging no big black meat inside my door.'"
"Stop. He said it."
"Stop saying that. He did not say that."
"Yes, he did say that. Stop saying it. But what I will say though, bro, you just threw my my thought, my train of thought off with that. Hold on, bro. What was I about to say? Oh, yeah. Okay. I actually noticed this a long time ago before we were even doing YouTube or anything. I noticed that also a lot of black people will be like, 'My mom said you better not bring no white girl home.' You know, and that's okay. So, got it."
"If that's okay, then the other, you know, you got to say, but I said that's not okay. I said that's not okay to say that. So, it's not okay for black people or white people to say that. That's why I don't agree."
"So, I grow up and my mother says something like this and then I see Nick and say, 'Oh, he's racist.' That is the most liberal [ __ ]."
"You can't. You can't say that one out there."
"You can't say one is racist and one is not racist. You, you either got to be all content or your character or..."
"That, that is literally IQ. If you can't make that correlation, my mother says this, but then he says it, that is you're, you're, you're [ __ ] stupid. And I don't know, man. You're just dumb."
"Down the barrel of his camera and tell me you're a racist. People can judge you accordingly."
"Many people, many people who have assumed that you're racist will now have heard it from your own lips. That's fine."
"There you go."
"That's the point. The point of this interview is to go over the things you've said which have led people to reach conclusions about you and to ascertain whether those conclusions are fair and reasonable or not. That's it. So, I want to play you another clip. This is where you talk about why white people are justified in being racist. Let's take a listen to this."
"First, white people are every single bit justified in being racist. Every single bit justified to the extent that that means going out of your way to avoid black people when you see them."
"I'd do it."
"That's not. Absolutely."
"Statement. Absolutely."
"You know what, Brandon? Just go on here a pack of [ __ ] brother. Just a pack of [ __ ] bro. It ain't no freaking racist, Dave."
"That is racist."
"No, it's literally not."
"He just said it's justified to avoid a certain race of people. The..."
"KKK. I want to avoid them."
"Okay. You're avoiding the KKK because of their self-admitted beliefs. Exactly. They're wolves. Get [ __ ]. I just want to kill."
"So, so you think all black people want to kill? You want to kill? You want to kill? You want to kill? You want to kill? What the hell are you saying? I feel I put that black nit on and one of them walk around the other way. I'm not mad at your brother. Damn, it's the same [ __ ]."
"I just, I'm just keeping it. You just said the KKK self-admitted racist walk through life fair. I look at all mine. I just look at everything fairly."
"I'm, I'm just saying all right, brother."
"He just said you're justified in avoiding a group of people because of their race. That's a racist statement."
"Boy, they got all rights to judge you."
"Are you on the card of your family? They got no rights to judge you, bro."
"All right, bro. Hold on. I'm just saying like, I'm just keeping it 100, man. I'm just going to make a factual statement."
"That's not a racist statement, bro. That's not a racist statement."
"Avoiding someone for their skin color is racist."
"No, I think when you blatantly say walk through this door in my home because he's black, then you're like, 'Okay, that's a little racist.'"
"What?"
"That's racist. That's when it's like..."
"That's literally along the same lines of what he said."
"I can avoid [ __ ]. I avoid [ __ ]."
"No, you don't. No, you literally do not."
"When I know what type of black people I'm around."
"No, you literally do not."
"They don't."
"So, last Saturday."
"Oh, yeah. Okay. But I know my chances there. I know my chances. Chances are pretty good."
"Okay. Well, yeah, I'm, I'm taking them chances. But why is it even chances? They don't want to be around chances. That's all he's saying. Brother, let them go, man, so we can get out of here. It's not. We're not doing no more videos."
"So, white people should go out of their way to avoid black people when they see them."
"Absolutely. They would be wise."
"Why?"
"They would be."
"Wow."
"Because it's a lose-lose proposition. If you're Ireina Zerutska and you don't walk the other way, you get stabbed to death and you die. If you're somebody else and you walk on the subway and you stand, you're a black person or something, maybe it's fine. Uh, it's a lose-lose proposition. Um, so no, I, I think that white people, I think that white people have been beaten into submission that we're afraid to tell the truth about it. And the truth is that when you go into these major cities like New York or Chicago, I believe she was in North Carolina, there is a menace, which is young black adolescent men. They're extremely violent and we have been told that we have to pretend like they are every other person. We have to be colorblind to that and we're supposed to go and and be in the midst of all this danger. And I think that at this point it's gotten out of control. You look at the BLM movement, they said that the reason that black people, um, you know, are violent or the reason there's crime is because of police brutality, redlining, or all these other things. They said we need to get rid of the police. We need to defund them. And a lot of cities did. A lot of cities like Chicago, for example, the police changed the rules of engagement. They don't chase them. It's not a felony if you steal a certain amount of merchandise. They won't chase them on foot. And now the city's totally up for grabs. And now whether you're in the Gold Coast or whether you're on the Mag Mile or you're in the worst neighborhoods in the city, you might get shot, you might get mugged, someone might run up on you. And, and I tell my followers, it is better to be perceived as racist or racist and walk the other way and maybe keep your life than to say, 'I'm a good anti-racist. I don't mind that this person's making me uncomfortable. Maybe he's looking a little froggy. I'm going to sit down because I'm a good person.' And gets stabbed, mugged, whatever. And by the way, this is a strategy. They call it the friendly stranger. There's a crew of them. They do this in Chicago. They stand outside bars, black people. They approach strangers. It's a robbery crew. And they pretend to be a friendly stranger. And then they mug them. And stupid white people say, 'Oh, hi. Yeah, nice to meet you.' You know, they grin, they laugh, they put up with the nonsense, and then they get mugged. Or worse."
"Sometimes they get executed. And so..."
"How do you feel? How do you feel about mass shootings at school?"
"This the last point I'm allowed to say. I think they're bad."
"Who do you think commits mo- the vast majority of the mass shootings?"
"I'm sure it's white people."
"Right. So, how do you feel about that?"
"The reason I'm going to let this point is this is every liberal, every black person I talk to about this. This is the point that they bring up. I, we going to see. Let's go."
"I think that white people do more antisocial violence. I think black people participate in more gang violence. I think that's the difference."
"What's the difference to the victims? Uh, there's no difference to the victim, but it's a different kind of crime and it's a different proportion. Also, do you know what percentage of white people are school shooters?"
"Uh, I know that the vast majority of mass shootings in schools in America this century were perpetrated by young white men. And I'm just proportion of I'm curious."
"I'm curious. I'm curious whether your advice would be to people who have kids and is my life working. Should they proportion? Should they? Should they avoid..."
"Should they avoid..."
"White people at school? Should people with the kids at school avoid young white men at school?"
"No. Okay."
"Do you know, do you know what per capita means? Do you know proportionality? There are more black people proportionally that engage in violent crime or involved in gangs, especially in these major cities, than there are white people that are school shooters compared to the entire white population. And everybody understands that."
"Two, 23% of mass shootings at school perpetrated by white people."
"But what proportion of white men commit school shootings? That's the question."
"Why he won't answer that?"
"Cuz it's a dumbass point. It's the dumbest freaking point of all time."
"I want to hear him answer it."
"He can't. He's not going to answer. He's not."
"I just want to. 60, 65% by. You're telling me what proportion of school shootings are committed by white people? I'm saying what proportion of white people have committed school shootings. Are you playing dumb or are you just not that smart?"
"What difference does that make to this to the children lying dead on the ground?"
"See, now you want to jump on the victims. The difference is you're asking, would you fear white people or black people? And that's the difference. What I'm saying to you is by your, by your logic, if, if we now have agreed that the vast majority of mass shootings in schools are committed by white people and predominantly young white men, then presumably your advice would be to avoid..."
"Oh my, this is why this is stupid. I'm not even going to let him answer because he's not going to answer. This is why it's stupid. Pierce, kids, do they go to a black or white school? So, is he going to tell them to avoid his all the white friends he has at the school? No. But why? What would he tell them if they went to a black school? He ain't going to tell them nothing because they not going. You know why? You know why they not going? Okay then. That's why this [ __ ]'s stupid, bro. It's a dumbass argument, Pierce. I like you, Pierce, but this [ __ ] was stupid as hell this whole time. Pierce, I mean, I understand you. Pierce a good debater, but you can't debate Nick on these things."
"I think I think just based on what I'm seeing here, I think that his effort in this interview is to paint Nick Fuentes out as a bad person. And it's like, okay, I see the effort here. I see what you're trying to do. Trying to get a guy like trying to call him out on things he said and it's like, sure, go ahead, but it's like, at least be able to stand on your argument. I feel like at the end he was kind of pivoting away from what he was asking him."
"Yeah. I mean, the proportionality thing, to be honest, guys, that's hard to..."
"We know everyone does know the truth."
"I mean, I feel it's interesting though when we watch these videos, people act like we're on here to just like, like cosign everything dude said. We just, we're watching a viral video and reacting to it. That's literally what we do. I think that you have to agree with everything Nick says, but there are several points he made that are true and there's a lot of points that he also makes that I don't agree with and that's that's the case with a lot of people. Um, I don't think everybody's going to agree on everything, but at the same time, there are certain stats like the proportionality, you know, that..."
"You cannot argue with proportionality."
"Yeah. And I also do think that like that it's worse. I think that what we do and what we say is actually the best thing for the black community. And I think that a lot of things we say and do is because we actually do care about black people. Because if there's a problem, but you don't address the problem and the problem continues to happen. And the problem is people are dying and murdering and going to jail and you don't address it and it keeps happening and getting worse. Do you really care about those people because you're sparing their feelings or do you really care about them if you're telling them the truth and saying that, you know, we'll take backlash for it, we'll get called names for it or whatever. But what's worse, people killing people or getting backlash for calling it out? I don't understand why we get so much flack on here for just watching videos and seeing something negative that happens to people that look like us and calling it out. But they don't ever say this for the people that kill them, for the people that put it in songs and glorify it for the actual violence that goes on. It's just like when you call out black people commit crimes and we're black people who take issue with the crimes that are committed among black people by black people, the response is, 'Well, white people commit crimes too.' Okay, so sure they do. But I'm not, that's not, that's not my what I'm here to talk about. I'm here to talk about crimes that are committed against people like me, but also people that look like me. That's a real problem. I'm here to call out behaviors about people from people like me that cause issues, that cause harm. And if I say something negative about that, I'm a bad person. But the people that do the bad things are, 'Free him. Oh, that song is hard, bro. Free him. New rap song.' It's like, it's ridiculous. I just don't get it. It makes no sense to me."
"We're arguing with idiots. I just like..."
"Their entertainment is idiots. Everything, you know, they're, it's just not as bright, man."
"I just don't get it."
"I'll be around black people, so I know what entertains black people. I know what they do day-to-day."
"Bro, we are black people. Of course, we're around other black people."
"I'm just saying it's ridiculous."
"We went to school in Louisiana."
"I'm not even gonna get that extreme on here, guys. That we're out of here, guys."