Joe Dispenza’s Origin Story Changed… Why?

Joe Despensza, everyone's favorite new age guru, the one that claims he's a neuroscientist. For those of you who don't know me, I actually worked for Dr. Joe. I'm the person who regrettably made him a mini celebrity. Uh, when I started working with him, he had 20,000 followers on Instagram, and when I finished working with him, he had almost 2 million in just a handful of years.

I've done plenty of videos on Joe, but one thing I noticed that was really interesting in the past couple years is how his origin story seems to be changing, which I just find a little fascinating. In the past, Joe would talk about how this whole journey of spirituality, it really started, you know, when he broke his back and allegedly healed his spine with his own mind, thoracic vertebrae. I broke Tu uh T8, T9, T10, T11, T12, and L1. And they told me if I didn't have the surgery, I would never walk again. Uh so I decided against the surgery and I thought I didn't want to live handicapped. I didn't want to be in a wheelchair and I didn't want to be addicted uh to pain medication. So I thought I might as well take a chance here. So I didn't really know what I was doing. Say the chance on what? Did you know what the alternative was? Well, I think I think that I believed that this voice kept coming up in my head saying the power that made the body heals the body. And and I thought, well, God, this power is an intelligence and intelligence is consciousness. Consciousness is awareness. Awareness is paying attention. It must be paying attention to me. Can I ask a question? Did you think this way prior to that incident? Yeah, to some degree. I think I think that most of us are philosophical to some degree. You know, we have a philosophy about life. Right. Mhm. But when you're initiated, that means you have to initiate that philosophy. So love that I had to take what I knew Mhm. and weigh it against what I didn't know. And so what I did was I just start started reconstructing my spine and my mind vertebrae by vertebrae. And then, you know, you'd start I'd start off doing that and the next thing you know, I'd start thinking about should I sell my home? Should I sell my practice? And I realized that the template, the design that I wasn't was creating wasn't complete. So, I'd stop, start all over again, get frustrated, then it would get harder. So, um I didn't have a teacher at the time. I was just going off my intuition. And it would take me 3 hours to go through the whole entire process just to complete it. And I'd start all over because I wanted it to be a complete uh model. So 6 and 1/2 weeks of just a dark night of the soul because I think when we're traumatized or we're under stress, we tend to focus on what we don't want to have happen and what we do want to have happen. And I think in survival, we're always preparing for the worst case scenario. So it was a it was a battle that I couldn't get my mind to do what I wanted to do. The end of six and a half weeks, one day, I went through the whole entire thing without breaking my focus. And I swear it was like hitting a golf ball right in the sweet spot. It just it just clicked. and I clicked and from that moment on, my body started to heal. I started to have less pain. My neurological symptoms were were diminishing. And the moment I started to correlate the changes that were happening in my body with what I was doing inside of me, I started doing it with more passion and more enthusiasm. Anyway, I was back on my feet in uh 9 and 1/2 weeks. I was back training again at uh 12 weeks. Come on. Yeah. I was back in my practice and um you know they told me that I would have to wear this body cast for a year, 6 months to a year and uh well gosh I put it on once and took it off and said there's just no way I'm going to wear this. And so I just made a deal with myself and the deal was uh in those lonely nights where I couldn't sleep if uh if I'm ever able to walk again I'll spend the rest of my life studying the mind body connection and mind over matter. And pretty much that's what I've been doing. That's amazing.

I fell for Joe's Grift. I believed his origin story. I've been to countless week-long events where I didn't just work at them. I participated. I've had the mystical experiences. I had the Kunalini Pops. You know, everything he promises I went through. But what he doesn't tell you, and what I find so interesting, which is what we're going to dive into today, is that he spent over a decade of his life working with a woman named Jay-Z Knight. power of your mind over matter. I believe that the God lives within you and has the power of destiny to create unbelievable remarkable worlds. I believe in you. I have come to worship and to love you, to idolize you, to comfort you, and to tell you the truth. You are to me the living gospel of God. Who is a who is a woman who channels channels a 35,000 I think it is yearear-old being from Lumriia. This is this is Joe Despensza's guru. And finally, after several minutes, this 40-year-old woman says she has turned into a 35,000y old man. Indeed. And of course, he doesn't want you to know that because if you look into her, you will realize how the heck did this dude spend over a decade being a student and a teacher at her school? It really makes you wonder and you can even notice that he took some inspiration from the way she leads her retreats of humanity to the divine right that they all have and with the teaching the teaching you are God there is a diviness about you let it come out blindfold your humanity and pursue your dream fixed what transfixes them is a blend of eastern mysticism and western to the way he leads his retreats connected to your future and your body was being pulled into the future. I saw it in your faces. I saw it in your the way you walked. I saw your energy. I saw you empowering yourself. And again, you know, this is all hush hush. This is all put under the rug. But um when I first found out that she was trying to sue him for taking his her work and you know they had this whole lawsuit thing. This was actually when I was working with him. I found out about this. Long story short, they informed me that this was coming down the pipeline and it was like so dramatic. And this is actually public information. I'm not revealing any secret information. You can look this all up online. Joe did end up winning the lawsuit, so I'll give him that. But, um, I remember leading up to it, you know, everybody was panicking and I didn't know who this lady was, nor did I care, but I couldn't help but start to just Google her and look into her stuff and I was just like, "What the heck is this, dude?" Talk about strange. Um, I actually ended up meeting her ex-husband cuz him and Joe had I don't know if they still have um a company together. It's a supplement company. His name is James Flick and uh wow, you know, he he told me some really bizarre things about Jay-Z Knight. So, it's just a strange world of uh confusion.

But what I wanted to get into this video is how Joe Despensza is changing his origin story. If you go back to 2015, 2016, even earlier, Joe's origin story was that he broke his back in a bicycle accident. And I'm not saying he didn't. I don't know what to believe honestly at this point with this guy. He is so smooth. It is terrifying. It is terrifying how good he is at being smooth. He recently was on many podcasts in the last couple years and you know I noticed something. He stopped talking about the bike accident and now he's replacing it with some story about what really was the catalyst to his whole spiritual journey wasn't the bike accident or Ramtha's school of enlightenment. No, no, no. Something totally different which was the book Autobiography of a Yogi. You read a book autobiography of a yogi? Yes. Yes idea. Yeah. Do and you said like something in you changed after that. Um my parents uh were best friends with these uh this couple and their son was really good friends with me and we went to graduate school together and the father uh my parents would make dinners with these this couple and they would party with them and they're very festive and I never knew this really about this guy but he handed me this book when I was heading to uh to graduate school and it was a we were driving from New York all the way down to Atlanta so it was a long long drive so I read the whole book. I had just been starting to do yoga. I, you know, I was interested in it. I was doing martial arts at the time. Something really uh uh very untraditional for a westerner. I grew up playing, you know, very very western sports and um I my exposure to yoga in some of the yogis that I had met uh bothered me because I didn't understand where they were coming from. And when I read the autobiography Yogi, I was really upset. like it really changed it shifted my paradigm quite a bit and if I said this is if this is the truth if this is the absolute truth. How did this person do it? What were they teaching? What is this ka breath? You know I was and I just everything changed for me. Everything changed for me. My whole life changed. I started doing I know this is crazy but I did like 3 hours of yoga every morning at 4:00 a.m. pop yoga and then finished with some very intense breathing. What? Where was this story before? So, apparently at the age of 19 years old, he read this book and started doing yoga. Why didn't he ever talk about this before? But see, if you've watched my other videos, I've already revealed this that Joe Despensza is not a neuroscientist. Joe Despensza is a is a Hindu. And there's nothing wrong with that. I just think it's strange that he lies allegedly about the origins of his work. And where does Jay-Z Knight fit into all this? Because if you know anything about Jay-Z Knight and the Rona School, she actually teaches a similar breath, which I I don't know for sure, but allegedly I think that is really what a lot of their uh lawsuits were about. So, my skepticism again, I don't I don't know if what I'm allowed to say is true, but I think he actually learned majority of his stuff from Jay-Z Knight and she learned from books like this, Autobiography of Yogi. And Joe doesn't want to give her credit because if you look into her, you're going to be like, "What the heck is this?" this and it it it makes him look bad because she's clearly strange and she's channeling some 35,000y old demon. It's like, yeah, he doesn't want to he doesn't want to associate with that because he has to trick you. He has to make you believe this is science when really it's just a different religion, you know, called Hinduism. And he just said it cr yoga, ha yoga, you know, these are these are yoga systems. I I don't I think I don't think we missed a day, my roommate and I for for for over three years. Like we were out there 4 in the morning every morning and we were I was in search of this understanding. It just it's something lit a fire in me and the way I saw Western religion and the and the questions that I was willing to ask. I sat my father down and I just said, "Look, I'm just if this is the truth, I'm just telling you I can't do this, you know, the way that we've been raised." And my father was super cool and he said well if you want to investigate it let me know what you find out right and it took me on this whole journey about you know and one way you know studying the mind and spirituality and and yoga and hypnosis and what was common and human potential and what was possible and uh yeah I just it just I just went a whole an unexpected route a very unexpected route. was very uh those four years in graduate school I was very to myself and really curious about you know, the nature of reality.

What specific teaching from autobiography for yogi you still carried today? That's fine no issue with this but when did you break back dude when does that come into this picture because based off what you're saying years ago that was the catalyst not some book you read and again maybe both are true and he's just you know trying to I don't I know. I don't know what he's trying to do, but I just find it weird. You do a three-hour podcast and there's not a single mention about your back being broken. Like what? It's just interesting. My ical transcendental stuff you know the tiger swami you know his teacher you know Babai and just the way that uh it the way they appeared uh as as mystics and saints and holy people and what the message really was and and I was bothered by promansa like by certain things he didn't look like a yogi to me like it bothered me about and he didn't really do well in school like he didn't really get great grades you know and I was just kind was, you know, bothered by that and and you know, just things that not not to say that I was I just was naive at the time. Like I just had a way in my mind that I thought it was and I it it took me full circle for me to really accept it. My god, my my understanding is so limited, right? And it broke me down and then I wound up reading a bunch of other really spiritual books that, you know, open my minds as well. So if you got an opportunity in the hypothetical world to collaborate with one of these original ancient Indian gurus who follow this work, who would you collaborate with? Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Why? I think he was just a really kind and and generous and loving human. Yeah. Why does that just feel like not truthful? You you want to partner with that yogi because he was kind? It's just such a copout answer. Again, I'm being I'm being an at this point, but I just thought if you know anything about the book, it's just interesting answer. You know, there's also your stuff like your your method which is pulling mind out of your body that's based out of kundalini, right? Praise God. The first person literally that I know of. Again, I haven't been overly attached to Joe's work since I stopped working with him years ago, but this is the first time I have seen an interviewer have knowledge of Hinduism. And to I don't think he really challenges Joe, but he kind of puts Joe in his place. In my opinion, condundalini is very dangerous and Joe is extremely reckless with showing people how to do this breath. Like it is so bad. the amount of people that go into psychosis at his events. The amount of people who can't get back in their body at his events and even allegedly at times people dying very mysteriously after his events. I've done interviews with friends of those people which is in my private school community. If you want to know more about that, you can click the link below. It's kind of a community of spiritual seekers who have been bamboozled by the new age gurus and are just looking for more insights that I can't share publicly as well as private calls with me where you can ask me questions and things of that nature. So you can check that out school.com/anttomisci or just go in the link below. But you know any like real advanced guru will tell you like these forces are very powerful and and the average person should not be messing with them. But you get, you know, Americanized teachers like Joe who, you know, get obsessed and possessed by the idea of helping people transform spiritually and they, you know, recklessly teach them how to do these very advanced yogi techniques of awakening condalini and people get hurt because of it and I don't think that's right. And then he also doesn't talk about its origins, which is also strange. And he's actually going to even go on to say that he lies to people about the origins of this work because he doesn't want to separate an audience. And he'll talk about that in a second. And I just I just find that very disingenuous. It's like what's the trick here?

Which is a very ancient Indian knowledge. So why don't you call it kundalini and you give it some different name? Um, I discovered that when you name something based on tradition, I'm going to lose people in the audience. Or they're going to say, "Oh, I learned condundalini already." And and they're going to have their own belief about it. So, you'll never hear me say chakras. You know, you never hear me say kundalini. I I I try to stay away from words where people have a stigma or some unconscious belief. So, I rename everything. What? Oh, so translation. You want to bamboozle Americans who are mainly Christian to make them believe you are teaching them science when really you're teaching them a form of Hinduism. Got it. I stumbled across my own condalini experiences not because I was trying in any way to have a condundalini experience. I call complete on that. I call complete on that. If you know anything about Joe Despensza is that he loves this stuff. He's been chasing this stuff clearly for a long time. Most spiritual seekers have been chasing this stuff. If you landed Joe Despensza's events, you are seeking. I was one of them, too. And it's like as soon as I learned about that condalini breath, man, I was going for it. I was like, I want it. I want it. And really, the reason for that was because I worked for Joe and he he gets you to want the experience. So I find that very very very very very very very hard to believe. I will also mention that Ramtha you know Jay-Z Knight she teaches the same or similar breath where it's like you're not it's not some passive thing. You're not just doing yoga gently and trying to awaken the condalini. It's like you are pushing and pumping and pulling it up. And uh that's kind of how Joe teaches it. She teaches it a little bit differently. But it's like, come on, dude. Come on. I just after years of yoga and just all of this kind of control when I exerted myself and did certain things and I breathed a certain way, uh I would have a dramatic change in my body and in my brain. And and and I loved that feeling. And I loved that feeling. It was that energy going right to my brain. And uh the breath that we teach is just my best understanding of how to to liberate that energy. All the energy you use for to create a baby, to digest a meal, to run from a predator, those first three energy centers, instead of releasing the energy out, draw that energy back to the brain in our brain scans show that on some level it puts the brain into an altered state. Yeah. So when you do all these researches on 5,000-y old ancient Indian knowledge and now you have a lot of science around it and you have done a lot of researches, you've you've packaged it in a much more believable way for masses to understand, right? Yeah, it's definitely a lot more believable cuz if you knew the essence of it, you'd be like, "Oh, I'm inviting snakes into me to rise up, unite me with Shiva and connect me to Brahman, all these Hindu gods." Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that's a repackaging for sure.

Do you think that your work and research now validate 5,000-y old Indian wisdom? I think it validates a lot of wisdom, you know, all kinds of wisdom. I I was invited to the Parliament for the World Religions, you know, in and had an opportunity to sit with a lot of really really uh um educated and adept uh religious leaders. And one of the things I learned uh in sitting at the table with very very affluent people was that it was a language barrier. Like they were arguing over scriptures that were 5,000 years old. Who knows the word from 5,000 what it meant then or 2,000 years old in another part of the world? like the the language was contemporary at the time and you know so I wanted to make it more approachable for people and and gosh I've taken all kinds of courses you know from Buddhism to you know to the Vic scriptures all that stuff it's a lot it's a lot of and and it's again for a westerner it's very difficult for them to wrap their mind around some of the concepts and I've even sat with them and had them tried to help me understand differences it's very tedious and it's very difficult So for me I thought what would be the simplest thing to do is to find a way to understand it and then rename it in a way that everybody just goes oh okay that makes sense right you have to know all the details no just this is the best name we can give ah right so I'm going to pretend I'm a neuroscientist I'm going to pretend that you know I broke my spine allegedly I actually believe he did so I'm I'm not even saying that I'm just I just find it weird he's not bringing up this story I don't know if he healed his body with his mind I I don't know what to believe about this dude at this point. It's like it's a the stuff I saw, man. So strange. Anyways, I have to aka lie to people because if I told them the origins, Americans are not smart enough to understand this. So instead, I'm just going to shoot them into a spiritual experience when they've never done any yoga. Most of them have never even meditated, but they're going to the highest form of yoga right away, which is Kundalini yoga, and I'm going to hope they have an experience. Just pay me $2,000 for my retreat. God bless. It's like, yeah, dude. It's it's it's wrong. It's wrong. I've always wanted to take very complex ideas or topics whether it was spiritual or whether it was scientific uh and make them really simple for people really simple to to make them uh make it approachable for them to not be intimidated by it uh but to understand it and and now we have so much science uh the scientists can actually go way down the rabbit hole with all kind his science is not at all the way he makes it seem and everybody on the science data teams know that it's it's it's a sham It really is. There's so many people in on the trick. It would blow your mind. Allegedly, of course.

You know, you know, great understandings because I'm from India. I can instantly connect a lot of your work with the Patanjali studies, the advata, vanta, the vic scriptures, the uh the kundalini method, right? And there's lot of information in our culture. What do you think? What do 5,000-y old when there was no science like what do those people get it which even today a lot of western neuroscientists don't get. There weren't a lot of uh there wasn't a lot of technology uh you know think about living just 300 years ago it wasn't easy to be human and you know live and so I think certain cultures found ways to become more enlightened uh to you know you know you could even talk about Ayurvedic Right. So what do we have in our environment that's good for the body? You know what what is the understanding? Why thing it's a it's a way of life. It's changed who you are. So it was what they had in and it became really uh very highly effective and very to be ancient. It was always there in ancient blessings and the goodness of these learn like Indians were not able to do it. Why did we like you are able to do it in a much better way in a much larger way. What do you think? Where did we lack? I think there are a lot of Indians that were able to reach a lot of people when when Indians came from the from India to the west and you know they were on talk shows or being buried and then you know they dig them up the next day you know or put it put something through their neck out the other side you know uh the west was mystified that because there was only really one guy that was able to do anything like that and this he's mocking Jesus with that little statement there just if you curious to know one guy what a shame And and by the way, that statement is ridiculous. The amount of saints in the Orthodox tradition that had supernatural abilities is in the tens of thousands. But you know, Joe Despensza would never want to focus on those because the way you get those powers is not by your own free will. It's of repentance. It's of grace. It's of participating in the church. But that doesn't work for him. So he has to find another system and then blaspheme and make fun of the Christian system people's minds quite a bit. So, uh, I think there's a there's a counterculture to kind of suppress that, uh, in a lot of ways because, um, it goes against a lot of agendas, right? So, I do think it may have been a little bit before their time, but I do think they were important elements, important steps for for people to understand where we are today. So I think they were a you know influenced a lot of people uh in a really important way and they were strong seeds uh that bore a lot of fruit but now technology is just so simple to be able to just get on something and see something that you didn't have available to you. You had to go to the top of a mountain in the Himalayas to you know find your way to some school ancient school of wisdom school of ancient wisdom and you know be willing to give up your life to learn some of these things. And I do think that um there were a lot of people that were that made those journeys.

Ah ancient schools of wisdom. You mean like the ones the RA school of enlightenment? The one you attended for over a decade. Yeah. Got it. Never saw again that that said I'm not coming back to society again and or there's many people that have transcended in some way. Uh but I think this is really, you know, this is a really important time to be alive. And I think it's important to be alive right now because, you know, the human race is at a very critical. Uh, this is all CIA scop. I just I'm having a hard time making a video on that one. This scop is so good. It's scary. Either implode or we evolve. And um, the coming of this new consciousness is not one person. Yeah, it's got to be a collective network of people. And you know, when you live in fear or you're watching the news or you're seeing all these tragedies, um, or you're exposed to different things, it really divides people. When you're in survival and when you're in stress, just nobody wants to connect or trust, you know, everybody's. So, talk about living in fear. I don't know if he does it anymore, but at the end of every single week-long event, Joe used to have like this beautiful ending kind of ceremony. And then at the very end, he'd be like, "By the way, it was so weird. If any of you teach my work, I'm going to have to send the sharks to you." And what he meant by that is that I'm going to sue you if you teach my work. But of course, my work is not my work. It's a combination of Hinduism, Jay-Z Knights, Rama's work, and a bunch of other sources I pull from. Um, but it's mine. So, if if I find you doing anything, I'm going to put you in a state of fear. And I'm even in a state of fear talking about that because someone who's not in a state of fear doesn't really care about it cuz they're in it for the work. They're in it for true service. Uh, I don't know if he says that anymore, but I find it so funny when these gurus like talk about fear and then you meet them behind the scenes. There are some of the most like paranoid, strange people that deal with immense amount of fear that would blow your mind, but then they come publicly and they're like, you know, enlightened and they have all the secrets and of course they never have a negative thought or a fearful vibration. No, of course not. Just not in front of you. You know, they do that in secret. They gota they got to take they got to drink obsessively to change their states because they don't know how to manage their own emotions. Yet, that's the very thing they preach about. I just find that so interesting. I find it so interesting. And and the best way to keep people divided is to keep them in survival and stress. And so, what an important time to be alive. I don't think it's ever been in my lifetime. I've never felt so much pressure um you know, environmentally with all the challenges that we've had. And this is a time where you cannot choose fear or you can't choose aggression and hatred because that would add to the consciousness to further divide. Right? So there something has to emerge that's greater than that. And it's not easy especially when you're threatened in some way or you don't have money or you know somebody's been injured in your family for for some you know unhealthy reason. So it's it's a huge challenge right? is a huge challenge but this is the time like we chose to be here and I do think you know everybody has to play their part on some level because my interest is if everybody if I'm working on myself and you're working on yourself and everybody's working on themselves to be a better person right then there should be something really emergent that takes place because the side effect of that is this kind of empathy that I think it's natural in human beings.

I mean empathy yeah empathy Joe empathy oh gosh I just can't do it with these people. They are full of hypocrisy. They do not practice what they preach. I was on the inside and I could tell you that it's all smoke and mirrors. And not to say the, you know, not to say you won't have a condalini move, not to say you won't burst open your pineal gland, not to say you won't have an outer body experience, not to say you won't be in bliss and ecstasy. This stuff's all very real and you will achieve those things partaking in this Joe Dispensza's work. I'm just here to tell you I think it's extremely spiritually dangerous. And of course that's that's me of course spitting out fear or maybe it's just being cautious and not naive. And look at the source of what these people believe. Like what does Jay-Z Knight really believe? Um I can tell you she mocks Christ. She blasphemes Christ. She makes fun of the church. She makes fun of Jesus laughing at him when he's hanging on the cross. Um, you know, is that the source of spirituality you want to follow? Because, you know, Joe is smart enough not to do that. Uh, Joe, but I can I can very well assure you he believes all the same garbage she does. And this is a CIA scop. If you if you know, you know, and I'll do another video on that one day. Um, but it's it's a scam. It's a complete scam. And the core of it is try to get rid of Christianity. I know that sounds like so far-fetched, especially if you've never researched any of this stuff, but if you dig deep enough, you will realize that there is a absolute agenda to get rid of the true Christianity. Um, and there's a reason for that because it's capital T truth and they want to replace it with this new age garbage. Again, tread lightly. Be very careful who you listen to. Do a deep dive into Jay-Z Knight. Really see what she's about. see what her teachings are, see what her temperament is. And um, you know, Joe is really good. I'll give him that. He is so good at talking. He is so he is so charismatic. He's so quick with it. In a way, I'm like, dude, I don't know how you like do that. The level of psychopathy to be able to turn it on and off like a actor is mindblowing to me. Like even when I see this, I'm like, "Dude, I of course this is convincing. Look how good he is at talking." And I'm just like, you know, I pray for people to not fall into uh his traps because uh could be a little tough to get out. And of course, where does Joe draw his power from? And he's talked about that in other videos or I've talked about in that I've talked about that in other videos. And he's really drawing his power from these uh interdimensional light beings, which are really demons in disguise. I started sensing these presences in the room during our week-long events primarily when we were doing the pineal gland meditations at other meditations as well but uh there was an energy in the room that I noticed and they're very noble and they're very interested in what we're doing. Observing. Many many times in the beginning they observe they they're along the walls and they're they're not small. They're very very tall. Uh How tall? Oh, um most of them probably uh 3 meters, maybe more tall. I mean, they're they're beautiful and big and they have this grace about them and this presence and they're very interested. They observe. When that started happening, um, people started reporting things back to me and sometimes it was kind of cool because we started getting stories of two different people in a room of a thousand people saying, "I saw this incredible thing." And the other person saw the exact same thing and I saw something very similar. I never said it. But all of a sudden, you're starting to get a collective noticing something happening. Well, I was I was getting ready for the day at one of our events. And as I was waking up and moving around and I was between worlds, they started talking to me and they said to me, "We can only lower our frequency to a certain point. We can't lower our frequency anymore, our energy anymore, because we would change our consciousness and we love ourselves too much to do that. But if you can raise the frequency of the audience to a higher frequency, we'll meet in that place where that energy intersects and so there's an invitation or a door for them to move through or to exist as. And um.

You think they've been supporting your work? Uh yeah, I don't know if they directly support my work, but I'll tell you that maybe the better word to use is they approve. uh of it and and um Ask them to come. I know well some now more but uh I I invite them but um You do. Uh I I always invite them. Yes. And and but I don't need to invite them. Uh so now we are seeing as an example with our healings we just did a evaluation. And we have a physician that's part of our team and she's been collecting data with a few other of my lead which are really demons in disguise and the Bible tells us even the devil can disguise himself as an angel of light. And these these people, you know, they're spiritually naive because they just automatically think if they have a mystical experience and they're in the spirit realm and a spirit being comes to them, it's automatically good. That's what 90% of people who don't have experience in that realm think. So, it's like, do you really think evil is going to show up as evil? Like, are you really that naive? And I can tell you, once these beings start to interact with you and you start to give them more access to you and you start to believe they're on your team, man, good luck. That's when it can get very complicated because they start to possess you. They start to take you over. Um, so, you know, ask them about Jesus Christ. You know, ask them about Jesus Christ and see what happens. So, you know, I'm just here to plant seeds. That's it. So, um I hope this video helps somebody who needed it. Just dive a little deeper. Dive a little deeper. Why did Dr. Joe take the little period out of his uh doctor title? Why why' he do that? You know, why why are these little things like that? Why does he have testimonials up on his on his uh YouTube page that don't have the names of people, don't have the followup? You know how many DMs I get from people who know people who share those testimonials on stage and they're like, "Hey, this one this person just died like here's their obituary and that they're on Joe's stage talking about how they healed from brain cancer." It's like this is ridiculous. You know, don't believe this stuff. And again, it's not to say there isn't some truth in it. There might be. Uh I have found it's filled with party tricks and to stay away. I went as deep as you possibly could. This is somebody who in my opinion is spiritually dangerous. So with that said, if you want to go deeper on these topics and see what I really know about these people in a deeper way without filters, you can join my school community. It's a space for people who are seeking uh spiritual truths as well as being able to help others in their life really spot these gurus for for who they really are, what they really believe spiritually. It's also a place for believers to um have conversations, ask me personal questions. We have monthly calls where you can interact with me personally and those discussions are always very fruitful and very fun. So, I hope to see you on the inside. You can click the link in the description and if not, no worries. I'll see you on the next video. God bless.