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đź”´ Doomberg Reveals 1 IMMINENT Country COLLAPSE & 1 IMMINENT War

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So here we are all of a sudden, you know, um, Zinsky is flying all over Europe and I believe he was just in Turkey, might even still be there. Um, and these stories about the corruption have circulated for days. Um, and no American official has, you know, cast doubt on them that that we can see. So just I just get a feeling, you know, a spidey sense, so to speak, that um things are about to change dramatically uh in Ukraine, which could change the entire geopolitical chessboard that we've been talking about for all these months.

You're watching Capital Kazm. My name is Danny. It is November 19th and my guest today is the green chicken himself. It's Duneberg. Duneberg, thank you so much for coming on, my friend.

Danny, always a pleasure. Looking forward to another great conversation.

Yeah, I've got my green polo on in com in commemoration with you. So, very eager to start. So, let's go ahead and do just that. Uh Doomberg, we just had this uh meeting between NBS and Trump the other day. Uh some major happenings going on. Talk about some of the big things that we we heard from this meeting. supposedly uh the $600 billion dollars in investments that Saudi Arabia had committed to is uh is being upped to up to a trillion dollars so to speak. Um is that the case and and walk us through any other uh significant happenings uh from that meeting?

Yeah, it was a fascinating meeting. Of course, um Saudi Arabia is a obviously a very important country and um sits in the middle of, you know, one of the energy capitals of the world and has great relationships with the US and Russia and China, which makes it quite unique. And now, of course, Iran, um improving relations there. The trillion dollar number, people, I think, are underestimating the significance of what Trump is trying to do. And whether you believe the trillion dollar number or not, a huge amount of money is flowing into the US. And I think it's important to remember that this money that's flowing into the US to pay for the construction of manufacturing facilities that will wean the US off Chinese dependencies, this money is not gifted and it is invested typically into the equity stack or sometimes debt to finance large heavy industry projects both in the US and abroad. And it's real to the extent that we're seeing an unprecedented amount of money flowing into private deals. Um, you see money flowing into public companies. Just as we hit record, news broke that MP Materials is is going to build a rare earth processing facility in Saudi Arabia. Um, you could see that the administration is deadly serious about this objective. And um NBS has signaled and the treatment that Trump has given him also is an important signal that Saudi Arabia is going to play a significant part um in this while trying to maintain good relationships with China, good relationships with Russia. You know, in a world that we describe as being in the middle of World War II, I think NBS is is trying to thread the needle and doing a pretty good job of it.

Yeah. And then what does this imply for relations between China and Saudi Arabia? Now Saudi is a member of the BRICS coalition and not too long ago China did try to broker normalization between Saudi Arabia and Iran and uh yeah I mean what does that imply? Does does that hamper at all the relations between Saudi and China? If it's facilitating uh kind of an indep if it's facilitating the US and and China going their separate ways.

Yeah. So, it's a fascinating question. You know, as as we're talking I we're putting the finishing touches on November's doom zoom for our protier presentation which is titled World War II um how we got here and where we're going. And one of the big mysteries is the Middle East and where it falls. um their objective obviously is to thread the needle and keep good relations with everybody in a world where the Ukraine war comes to an end and I know we'll talk we'll talk about that soon and a long-term day is reached with China and the US focuses on the Western Hemisphere which clearly it is um we could see a world where um the Middle East plays nice with everyone sort of a fulcrum u region the world needs that energy Danny in that presentation We show sort of consumption and production by region of hydrocarbons and the Middle East produces like 83 exogles of energy but only consumes 41 and so the world just can't go without that power without that energy I should say. Um predominantly oil and growing in natural gas. Uh and so I think Saudis are playing their cards very well. Um, Trump is playing his cards very well. I think the war in Ukraine could come to an end much quicker than many are modeling. And a a long-term day with China is probably in everybody's interest.

So, you're saying it's in the interest of of Saudi Arabia as well?

Well, sure. I mean, Saudi Arabia doesn't want to be caught in a bifurcated world where it must decide to only trade with the West or only trade with the East. It's it's it's well it's not workable. Um and it's not in Saudi's interest. Um and so we're going to have a 10-year period, we believe, where the US military-industrial complex is focusing on the Western Hemisphere and um all three sides are arming up, but you'll have a a Dayton. And in a world of data, um I think there's room for everybody in the Middle East. All three sides being the United States, China and the Middle East. Russia and Russia. Okay.

Got it. Um where does Pakistan fit into all this? Because if you recall about a month or two ago, they did sign a defense pack with Saudi Arabia and now you you have another defense pack being signed on the part of Saudi Arabia and in the United States. Um and of course you have this u you know it wasn't too long ago that the defense minister of Pakistan admitted on Cameron you know on their national news that effectively I mean they were pretty much doing the dirty work of the CIA there for decades and uh you know Pakistan has kind of been a wild card. How will Pakistan kind of figure into all of this um by by by virtue?

Yeah, it's it's a great question Danny and and we again not to plug our work but we did a pro tier called losing India where we discussed this and what it means for Pakistan is interesting. So historically Pakistan and China have been very close um and that's driven in part at least by frictions between India and China. So you have to view Pakistan through the lens of the India conflict. And when the Saudi Arabia defense pack with Pakistan was announced, we actually posted on notes, this could be read as Pakistan getting defense cover from the US via a proxy, which is Saudi Arabia. And with Trump turning on Modi and Modi becoming closer to Xiing and Vladimir Putin, who by the way will be in New Delhi on December 5th for a rare state visit. Um there's a world where Pakistan looks around and says, "Well, I guess I I better get close to the US." Um so that's probably what's going on. We're not experts on Pakistan, of course. Um but at a high level, if India is choosing a different side, then it makes sense for the US to to re-engage with Pakistan. Um and the Saudi Pakistan deal that predated the visit to the White House yesterday by a few weeks um makes sense in that in that lens.

Interesting. Does so does that imply India's getting closer to to China by virtue?

Yes. Um and we're seeing that I mean Mod's visit to China um you know for the for the summit u the SEO summit was was a milestone. uh they had a very high-profile meeting where they committed the two leaders committed to proactively removing the strains and stresses in their relationship and beginning to build trust again and so um you know Pakistan India has been at war since you know the British pulled out effectively um and so if you're Pakistan you're probably more receptive to US overures um in that context.

Interesting. Well, let's go ahead and move over to Russia here in a sec. I know you have some new intel on Russia and Ukraine, so the floor is yours.

Yeah, not new intel necessarily, just observing very odd uh news flowing out of Kiev this week, last week and this week. Um all of a sudden in unity the legacy media outlets that have been supporting Ukraine and Zalinsky um you know un unquestionably um and you know very repeatedly have all come out and covered this alleged hund00 million corruption scandal that hit the Ukrainian energy uh industry. the the head of Ukraine energy just fled the country apparently according to reports. Um there's always been significant corruption in Ukraine. Long before the war with Russia, it was ranked as the most corrupt country in Europe and the Bidens were all up in it. Um you know, all of a sudden people begin to care about corruption in Ukraine. It's not about corruption in Ukraine. What we read through the tsunami of headlines covering this story is that the US wants Silinsky out, Trump wants Silinsky out and there are signs that um things are beginning to crack in Kiev in that regard and um there's also concurrent with that news reports in Axios and Politico and you have to always read those with a grain of salt. A lot of disinformation comes through legacy media outlets like that. um you know, sources said type stories that that there's a a 29point peace plan that has been basically agreed to between the US and Russia that will be presented to Ukraine as a fatal compon plea. Um we have our doubts about that story. Um not the least of which it seems like the Russians are denying it. Um but when you put it all together, look, Ukraine is out of money. They can't take the frozen assets. Um, Europe is not going to fund the 150 billion euros that Ukraine needs. The support for it politically across Europe is evaporating. Um, winter's coming. Russia has basically destroyed a fair bit of the Ukrainian electricity and water grids, which again we believe are war crimes because there's just no question that the the major use of those is civilian. Um, in response, of course, you Ukraine has been launching repeated attacks against Russian uh refiners. Um, so here we are all of a sudden, you know, um, Zalinsky is flying all over Europe and I I believe he was just in Turkey, might even still be there. Um, and these stories about the corruption have circulated for days. Um and no American official has, you know, cast doubt on them that that we can see. So just I just get a feeling, you know, a spidey sense, so to speak, that um things are about to change dramatically uh in Ukraine, which could change the entire geopolitical chessboard that we've been talking about for all these months. Does this take a war with Europe and Russia off the game board, so to speak, because Europe would effectively lose their reason to go to war? Um, but I mean, you still have the the economic problems going on in Europe regardless. And, you know, one could argue that the elites in Europe would benefit in having a a war with Russia of some sort.

So, I I haven't seen the proposed plan. I don't even know if it exists, but if you go by how it's described by Politico, again, um, you have to be careful. Um, apparently there are four sections to the agreement, and one of them involves securing Europeans, you know, uh, nailing down and agreeing upon the European security situation. I read that to mean, you know, no more expansion of NATO, both sides move weapons away from the border, um deescalation, you know, uh no foreign troops in Ukraine, no nukes in Ukraine, no long-range missiles in Ukraine. Um in exchange for who knows what. Now again, whether Zalinsky will accept it or whether he is willing to accept it or not even remains relevant is fluid situation. the eur the current European leaders predominantly will reject it violently and so I don't necessarily believe that this peace plan is just going to be presented to everybody because Trump doesn't have a history of doing that in fact he has a history of sort of walking back his agreements with Putin when he's pressured by the Europeans which is what you know many believe happened in Anchorage this the story of what went down in Anchorage is yet to be told um but if you believe the Russian version of it a an agreement largely along the lines of Istanbul plus, I guess you would call it, um was agreed to in principle between the two and then Trump seems to have walked it back um after talking to Zullinsky and the Europeans again. Again, whether that plan would have been accepted to Zalinsky, I we very much doubt it. Certainly, the Europeans didn't want it. to your point, um the propaganda on this war that has been spread across Europe for so long will be such a thunderclap for for the average European reader to suddenly see this peace plan that is largely favorable to Russia um as being acceptable. And so we have sort of an immovable object here, which is the near almost desperation of the European elite um to keep the war going at this point. Um and so we'll see. I I I don't know how Trump gets out of it. At some point, you know, um our view is that the war can only end militarily because even this 29point peace plan, if it is, as described by Politico, would be totally unacceptable to the current Ukrainian leadership and to much of Europe. And so then the war would just go on and Trump would then be able to say, "Well, I tried. There was my peace plan. It was rejected. It's time to let them fight it out."

Yeah. Well, that makes sense. still, you know, let's let's stay on the topic of Russia and kind of move over down to, you know, back to the Middle East, so to speak. This is breaking today from the Financial Times. And it's talking about how Russia is helping Iran develop nuclear weapons without conducting a nuclear test. And this is off the heels of, according to the report, Iranian scientists visiting Russia in what appears to be a sign of Iran's efforts to obtain laser technology and expertise so that it can design nuclear weapons without conducting a nuclear test. Uh, what do you make of this story?

Yeah, I mean, it's obviously just breaking today, so I really haven't had time to read it. I wouldn't be shocked necessarily, although there's probably easier ways for Russia to um to help Iran with just a simple nuclear umbrella, I suppose, in the way that Pakistan implied that it would for Saudi Arabia. Um, so, I don't know. I I again, I always take stories in legacy media outlets um such as these with a grain of salt. I actually quite enjoy the Financial Times. Um, there's some really great reporters at the Financial Times who break interesting news. Um, but every once in a while a story is just, you know, appears to have just been completely made up and planted. I'm not saying that that's the case with this story. How could I? I haven't read it yet. U but of course Russia and Iran are collaborating militarily. Um, they just signed a strategic agreement. It was ratified in Russia. and um you know the 12-day war in Israel stepped up probably the assistance that China and Russia are giving Iran. I would personally be surprised if Russia was proactively participating in what as you describe it at least would appear to be nuclear proliferation. Um, there's a world where I'm sure Russia would like to secure Iran's u borders and its well-being without them getting nuclear weapons, per se, but could be. Um, and so we'll see.

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Yeah. And kind of another connecting thread between the two countries is, of course, Syria. And not too long ago, a few weeks ago, you had this meeting between uh President Putin and uh President Al-Shara, formerly known as Golani, in Syria. And uh you know now that now you're getting these reports that you know they you know they're kind of commissioning Russia for protection of some sort. Um Iran also used to have a presence in Syria. I don't believe they have a presence any longer given the current outlook over there. Um, how do you kind of square that circle uh with Syria kind of being like a western puppet state now between Turkey and United States and Israel, all of them getting kind of getting a piece of the action here and now Russia's in on in the midst as well. How I'm just trying to make sense of all the different factions and where, you know, whose side is everyone really on here?

Yeah. You know, I have to start my answer by admitting that this is a big mystery to to us. Um, how is it that a guy Golani goes from FBI most wanted $10 million reward on his head literally um accused of dastly things um we had a whole war on terrorism allegedly because of guys like this. and now he's getting a meeting with the president of the United States in the Oval Office and we're just like supposed to pretend that everything that happened after 911 didn't I I it is um shocking actually that this very basic question is not really being covered. I I we can't cover because I have no idea how this happens. I it's what does this say about an awful lot of other things? Who is really behind ISIS then? Um, you know, you read in foreign propaganda that ISIS is basically a front for Western intelligence, but I never really found that credible. Um, but I must say the events of the last few months in Syria do make me question that. Now, I I'm not sure if you have a view, but I I can't explain how a guy can go from most wanted list to sitting in the Oval Office, shaking hands in a suit, no less, with uh President Trump.

No, I mean the world is stage. I mean that's what it's that's what it seems like to me.

Yeah, it's hard to deny, right? I mean they're they're making um conspiracy theorists um look more like um you know Nostradamus at some point. Like it it it's crazy. I it is it's a I've thought about writing it but I just don't know what the angle would be and I don't know what what we could contribute to it.

No no I mean Syria is extremely murky. I mean there's so many different powers in there struggling for domination. you know, there's the Turkish angle, there's a CIA angle, there's the Israeli angle, there's like uh you know, now you've got the Russians in there, too. And you know, whose side are the Russians really? Are they, you know, forming an alliance with with the Trump people or is this kind of all I mean, who knows? I mean, yeah, it's just it's just very I mean, maybe it's like I mean, it's got to be like that by design. You got to keep the opponent guessing, right?

Yeah. I don't know. I I wish I had an answer. that one basic question actually I've given a ton of thought to um even the fact that people don't seem to m don't seem to care like doesn't that make you ask a couple of follow-up questions

I don't know um well there's so much going on right now I suppose that it's easy for that to get buried but you know if you're a soldier that got injured in in the war on ISIS or you're a parent that lost uh a son or daughter in the war on ISIS and then you see a former leader of one of these types of organizations going from most wanted to, you know, um, invited guest at the White House. It It does make you want to scratch your head, doesn't it?

Well, he said he was he was young and wild back then.

He was just going through a phase.

Yeah. To to to uh to quote um a famous baseball player Mark Magcguire, um, I'm not here to talk about the past.

Yeah. Well, fair point. All right. Well, let's go ahead and, you know, we we talked about China initially on. I want to get your view on, you know, how China's taking this decoupling between them and the United States. Um, I've had other guests on the show, namely Professor Jen, you know, he's talked about kind of a reproach mont of China. Actually, he he sees a reproach monturing. Um, you know, seems like you kind of feel the opposite, but

Well, I mean, I could see a 10-year dant occurring at least. Um, I think it's if Trump had his way, he would have ended the Ukraine war much earlier and cut a long-term deal with China and focus on the Western Hemisphere, which is clearly what he's positioning to do. And um, you know, in that world, Saudi sort of threading the needle between the three sides makes a lot of sense physically. The physics of it makes sense. Um, and the focus on the the Western Hemisphere is clearly a high priority for the Trump administration. And when you go country by country, as we do in this upcoming talk, you see the same pattern. Um, you know, frankly, when we look at what was going on in Mexico last week, that has all the hallmarks of a westerndriven color revolution because Trump is unhappy with um with the current president of Mexico and and you know, the whole Mexican energy situation is highly intertwined with the drug cartels now to the point where it's crushing Mexico's ability to properly exploit its resources. And so, you know, these protests are are usually not very spontaneous and and we see all of the signs that we saw, say, for example, in Ukraine or in the the country Georgia, not the state. Um, and the attempted color revolution in Bellarus. And then you look at what's going on with Venezuela. We'd keep a close eye on Cuba. Um when you look at a sphere of influence world and the US is reasserting the Dunroe doctrine as it's now being called um having a communist outlet you know so close to the coast of Florida probably is not very stable. You look at the bailout of uh Malay Argentina that was obviously driven by vakam um and now there's the Donald Trump of Chile looks like he's going to win the upcoming election there the runoff there. Another big hold out is Lula and Brazil. Um, and Brazil, you know, be in bricks um is Brazil of course. So that's a potential future point source of friction. And then of course the leftist government in Colombia is now locking horns with Trump as well. So everywhere you look uh in the Western Hemisphere, we see this push towards Trump's sort of objective proTrump leaders ascending into power. um leaders that oppose Trump, you know, um seeing spontaneous demonstrations against them or threatened with military action as it might be with Venezuela and as we think it might soon be with Cuba. Um and so that's sort of the trend. I think that's the next phase of World War II. You know, a a an end of the hostilities between Russia and Ukraine, no hostilities between the US and China, and the military-industrial complex gets to drop its bombs. um on Central and South America.

You know, I um I'm I'm going to name drop his name again. Professor Jen, who I had on a few weeks ago, he talked about how this war on the drug cartels in Venezuela, this kind of thing. You know, who really controls the drug cartels? Who really controls the drug trade here in the United in the United States? It's the CIA or at least elements of the CIA. So he kind of framed it in a way where it's actually Trump going to war with uh you know, deep state elements with a with a with an opposing faction of the CIA um that's facilitating these drugs coming into the United States kind of masking it um with a with a Venezuelan narrative. Um what's what's your take on that? I mean have you have you thought about that at all?

I mean look it's it's an interesting take. Um Trump vowed to drain the swamp and take on the deep state, but some of his behavior since he's ascended back to the Oval Office um is seems inconsistent with that. Um and additionally, um that sort of sounds a bit tinfoily, although given what we just talked about with the whole Syria situation, it's starting to become perhaps, you know, a little bit more plausible. It's an interesting framing of it. we would characterize that as say a mental model that um might be useful to explain future events. I haven't really given it, you know, the full thought, but I think if you do view this as, you know, a war on the deep state by Trump, um that could make sense if the axioms are that this is all controlled by, you know, as you've described it, elements of the CIA, but then there's other aspects of Trump's behavior that that mental model would not explain. So I I don't know.

So So what's really going on there in Venezuela? Duneberg as far as you see it because you you know supposedly uh Maduro was willing to make all of these concessions to the administration a few weeks ago and it was reportedly denied by Trump but you know as of a couple of days ago Trump has said you know we may be open to to something like that but that's after they moved a bunch of warships in into play. Um and then you've got the Russia and China element too. I mean, can they afford to lose Venezuela um as well? Like, uh how are the is there is there a grand bargain at play here?

Yeah, great question. So, first of all, again, that Madura was willing to give everything to the US and Trump wouldn't take yes for an answer article was a classic legacy media sources familiar with the matter said and um so one has to be careful reading too much into that. Um, history teaches us that when the US assembles an Armada of this size, conflict is usually imminent. Um, there might be a deal, but then Trump's behavior with Iran where they were negotiating and then, you know, the attack happened while they were negotiating. Um, you would think would make um negotiating with Trump while the arm is next next to you um a risky endeavor. um if you pushed us um I think that um there will be a regime change attempt in Venezuela and if it doesn't happen quickly it could turn into a bit of a mess. Um, if there's a negotiated exit where, you know, Maduro gets a villa somewhere and, you know, a Swiss bank account filled with cash, um, then there's a world where, um, a peaceful exchange of power might occur and Venezuela's stranded resources get developed. Um, Chevron, of course, has a multi-deade long history in Venezuela. Um, the Chinese story is a bit of a complex one. First of all, China and Russia are not militarily capable of stopping the US um in Ukraine. Uh sorry, in in Venezuela. Um they don't project power in the way that the US projects power. Um I don't think the US is in a position to embark on a full invasion of Venezuela and it wouldn't have any legal justification for it. And in fact, I think what's going on now is legally dubious. But when has that mattered? Um China, you know, they're they're kneedeep in Guyana. their Exxon Mobile's partner in the Guyana Superfind and um they've been in Venezuela for a while and you know the the Chinese major oil companies collaborate pretty well with the American and British oil companies. They're often you know junior partners in joint ventures and and so on. And so in a world where Venezuela, which used to produce 4 million barrels a day of oil, and now just produces one, gets back on its feet from an energy perspective, that's probably not going to be too disruptive to China, assuming the deals are cut. And again, in the backdrop of thinking ahead of the end of the war in Ukraine and reaching a dant with China, um things like that could be perhaps more easily digested.

Right. Well, I mean, uh, it's certainly interesting because Venezuela, as you know, is very mountainous. So, a ground invasion would just be I mean, there's a reason why we haven't invaded Venezuela up until this point. Not because we wouldn't win, but because it just be a pain in the ass to do so.

Yeah. I mean, it's not the prairies, that's for sure. Um, but again, I I I think this either happens without a shot or swiftly. Uh, otherwise, it becomes a quagmire.

Yeah. And then what's next on the if it if it does go smoothly, let's go ahead and uh create some sort of decision tree here. Let's say it does go smoothly on the part for the US and they do successfully remove Maduro and implement a Guyaido 2.0 or something. Um what what happens next in South America? Is is Cuba the next target in this in this uh chain?

We would keep an eye on Mexico.

Mexico that seems to be on on fire as well. like you alluded to, they've got the One Piece flag flying up there. Um, incredible, isn't it?

Yeah. Um, Cuba and Colombia would probably be the next hot spots. Um, again, if you just look at it, um, Peru has, you know, a conservative leadership. Chile looks like it's going to get conservative leadership. Argentina, of course, Malay, very strong Trump supporter. Um, Colombia, Cuba, and then the big question of them all is Brazil. Um, and so, who knows? We keep an eye on the political situation in Brazil um as well and um but Mexico is is interesting. So I think you know Mexico for example hasn't yet signed a trade deal with the US. Perhaps Shine Bomb is waiting for um the US Supreme Court to rule the tariffs to be unconstitutional. Um but then of course you get the color revolution. And again, we we it's hard not to be cynical when you see those things after you followed Mike Ben's work on Twitter, um, you know, uh who does great work in this regard. I've never met the man or, you know, don't know what his his credentials are. And I know I think he used to work in the State Department, but he does some pretty convincing analysis on this kind of thing. And once you see that pattern, it's hard to unsee it. And so, and you know, the US has threatened military action in Mexico. Let's not, you know, um let's not forget that. Um, you know, the cartels obviously are a huge problem. And and look, Trump is correct. I mean, the cartels are a huge problem. Fentanyl is a huge problem. There's way more fentanyl coming through Canada than Canadians would like to admit. Way more all stuff that we've written about. And so, um, keep an eye on Mexico. But, you know, assuming that situation resolves and the US doesn't invade Mexico, I think, um, Cuba and Colombia would be next.

Cuba and Colombia. Well, all right, Duneberg. It's been a I mean, this has been a great uh geopolitical analysis so far. But before we sign off, I just want to get your updates on the energy markets and and the markets as a whole. I mean, I'm looking at oil at $59 WTI crude. I'm also looking at $4,91 gold. I'm also looking at $5169 silver. And u markets are also moving sideways as well. just kind of give us your general update and prognosis of the markets before we sign off because this is a a financial show allegedly, right?

We only talk about what you ask me, Danny. So, um, go ahead.

I I'll go quickly. Yeah, energy markets are very well supplied and if a peace agreement is reached in Russia, we think that would put downward pressure on on energy prices. As for the stock market, not really our forte. We're recording this on uh yeah, Nvidia earnings day. That's the only reason why I'm mentioning it because what happens after the bell today, which neither of us could have any insight into um will push the markets perhaps violently in either direction. And then um as for gold, yeah, it it recaptured 4,000 pretty decisively, I think. um in a world where we have spheres of influence and and the day between China and and Russia and the BRICS countries continue to build out their payment systems. Um because the even if we reach a day, I mean the the tariffs and sanctions have caused an irreversible bifurcation of of the world. Um that's probably bullish for gold. So we still own a fair bit of it. Um silver I don't really have anything um to say. I don't follow that market very closely. I I note with interest that people got excited about it recently when it went over $50 an ounce. That's great. Um I I think I own a hundred uh silver eagles. That's the extent of my personal exposure uh to silver and that's just so I can barter when the uh you know what hits the fan.

Yeah. Well, always a pleasure hearing what you have to say, my friend. Anything else you want to talk about before we bring this thing home?

You can just find all of our work at at Duneberg and also our second substack classics read aloud. Um, thanks for the opportunity to plug both and Danny was always great. Looking forward to the next conversation.

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