Why They Work To Prevent Blacks From Getting Funding

channel. You know, there are folks that I wish I could have spoken to because as time is going on and I'm getting older, there are folks I wish I could have talked to. And recently was the passing of a gentleman that I wish I could have talked to. Georgie Johnson. A lot of folks named Johnson that you'll think back over the 20th century, Bob Johnson, John Johnson, a lot of folk named Johnson. George Johnson was one of those people and he died here and I wanted to uh review this because a lot of you you'll remember it here.

The New York Times did an article on this. George E. Johnson who built a black hair care hair care empire dies at 99. 99. Mr. Johnson's hair product company. I mean, folks, at 99 years old, that means he predated segregation. They were building a black economy, you know, before segregation. So, it's really historic. It really, really is. I want to read the article here for you for those of you who maybe you weren't alive or you were too young or maybe some of y'all are too old.

And John George E. Johnson, a hair care magnate who rose from a sharecropper's cabin to found with his wife Joan what was said to be the first black-owned company listed on a major American stock exchange and who made a fortune on products like Ultrasheen and Afrosheen died on Monday at his home in Chicago. He was 99.

One of the reasons why they try to run down Chicago so much, y'all, is they don't want black folk to think about how much of our history and our rise to combat white supremacy and to found a black economy. So many roads of that, go through Chicago. So much of our progress, such as it's been and what we've done, has gone through Chicago. There are just so many folk who came out of there. And that's something for us not to forget. Black folk who left the South and they found and made opportunities in Detroit and Chicago and other areas. And I'm going to come back to Louisiana here in just a few moments. So hang on tight. We got a lot to touch on here tonight. But I feel like this is really essential.

It says that his death was confirmed by his second wife, Meline Murphy Rab, who said the cause was respiratory illness. Long before sports figures, entertainers, and Fortune 500 executives, commanded sky-high salaries, the Johnson Products Company, which sold black hair products and cosmetics, made its founder, Mr. Johnson, one of the nation's wealthiest African-Americans. He also helped found one of the first and largest black-owned banks, the Independence Bank of Chicago, where he served as chairman until it was sold in 1995. And for decades, Johnson Products indirectly influenced pop culture through its sponsorship of the nationally syndicated television dance show Soul Train. What? So, I know everybody talks about Don Don Cornelius, but back then he had some black folk that he could go to for sponsorship. He had black folk he could go to for funding there to help prop it up. So, just like Madam CJ Walker did her part, just understand back then that was different. Back then it was different. So, that's part of the Soul Train story you need to keep in mind was black sponsors.

Johnson Products originated in the laboratory of Samuel B. Fuller, a black cosmetics entrepreneur. By the way, y'all should go look into him, too. Where Mr. Johnson worked after dropping out of high school. Up to that point, his experience starting at the age of nine when an aunt gave him a shoe shine box. His experience had been menial jobs. Mr. Johnson started at Fuller Products as a salesman carrying the black bag, as he put it, though he initially found it distressing to pedal pomade and face powder amid urban deprivation. Quote, "I had a problem with it unless I really needed money," he said in an interview for his obit for this obituary. "Then I would sell like hell." After requesting to work indoors, Mr. Johnson created his first product, a hair relaxer for men he called Ultra Wave. With Mr. Fuller's blessing, Mr. Johnson teamed up with his wife and a barber to found Johnson Products in 1954.

After one branch of a finance company, now listen to this part, y'all. He got together with his wife to found Johnson Products. Now, he's going to go try to get funding. And I want y'all to listen to how this next part went. After one branch of a finance company rejected his request for a business loan as a "ridiculous idea," Mr. Johnson secured the $250 in seed money from another branch by saying that he needed the funds to take his wife Joan on a vacation to California. What? I'm gonna say that again. One branch of a finance company rejected his request for a business loan as a ridiculous idea. So he went to another branch and they approved him after he said that he wanted to use the money to take his wife on a vacation to California. What I'm telling you is that this had nothing to do with his worthiness. This obviously had nothing to do with his finances, his income, his worthiness. It is. Hey [ __ ] what you planning on doing with that? Whoa, you planning on challenging us? Oh, hell no.

So, you see, this is the game they've been playing is that the Europeans went around the world colonizing, conquering things, creating a system of capitalism so they could lock you out. That was the whole game plan. That has been the game plan. Still the game plan today. And if you come up with some bull crap, you can get some money for that. For consumerism, if you want to engage in rampant, unrestrained consumerism, well, they'll throw you some money for that. But if you START TALKING ABOUT BUILDING, AH, wait a minute now. See, we throw money at what's her name? Therronos. We throw money at her, Sam Bankman Freed, Elizabeth Holmes, and Theronos. We'll throw billions of dollars at them and watch it disappear. When you come through, they start filtering for what exactly is it you want to do with it? When you're black and come through the door, they have a more discriminating ear. What exactly was it you're planning on doing with that? So, they got you thinking your ideas are stupid. Oh, it's just a they turned this down because it's a bad idea. Is that really the reason? Or is it because you are in a system that filters you? And if it looks like consumer debt, ah, here you go. Need a credit card? Here you go. Building debt. No, we ain't we don't help you with that. We're going to try to choke you and deprive you of the ability to build anything. So everything is about snuffing out the baby in his crib, stopping you from getting funding from the very beginning so we don't have to fight you 20 years down the road. We're going to make sure you never get the baby out of the crib to begin with. We're going to kill this thing early if we can.

And folks, once again, he wanted $250, not $250,000. In 1954, he wanted $250. In other words, the cost of a vacation to California, $250 bucks. And they said, "No." Think about that for a few moments. Just 250. This is about destroy is always been economic warfare. Here's what I've been trying to teach you from the very beginning. There is economic warfare and you are being targeted.

By the way, did they do that with the Asians they brought over here? What? Damn. One more thing. Did they do that with the Asians that they brought over here? With the Jewish people they brought over here, with the Italians they brought over? With with the Latinos? Bank of America got whole programs for that. Did they do this garbage with any of these other people? I'm talking about historically. Did they ever do this with them? Okay. Oh, okay. So, so we were being targeted. All right. Oh, these other folk, yeah, you gave them a leg up. For us, it was like, "Let me kick the ladder out from up under you." And then they come back and tell you, "Oh, why are you all still down there on the ground? You're just not trying hard enough. You need to try harder and work more."

And okay, they go on to say here that those early financing troubles later inspired him to help start a bank. He found himself on the road again to pedal his product when his partnership with the barber soured. Imagine a partner a partnership with his barber going downhill. Imagine that. From his station wagon, it would be an SUV today. He sold Ultra Wave and other products to barbers from the upper Midwest all the way to Harlem. But he soon found that barbers were not loyal. Imagine that. Quote, "They couldn't resist the next deal that came along, although it involved poor quality cheaper stuff," Mr. Johnson told the New York Times in 1976.

So, he started eyeing beauty shops where he observed women using hot combs and mineral oil to straighten hair, a smoky and unhealthful process. He modified UltraWave for the women's market, creating Ultra Sheen, which he said reduced smoke by as much as 75% and could be used in the home. We talking about black innovation here. You want to talk about black innovation? Yeah, we've been doing that the whole time. Sales took off. In the 1960s, the company had an estimated 80% of the black hair care market. And by 1970, it had annual sales of $12.6 million or over $100 million today. The company listed on the American Stock Exchange in 1971.

Johnson Products spent heavily on advertising in its heyday. $5 million in 1975. More that's more than $31 million in today's dollars and was the first black-controlled company to sponsor a national television program Soul Train, which aired weekly for almost 35 years until 2006. Johnson Products is not related to Johnson Publishing Company of Chicago, the former publisher of Ebony and Jet magazines, nor is it related to Robert L. Johnson, co-founder of Black Entertainment Television.

Cultural and regulatory challenges and even severe weather exacted a toll on Johnson products, which was struggling for survival by the late 1970s and posted its first loss in the mid-1980s. The company, which relied on straighteners, was late to adapt to the growing popularity of afro hairstyles in the 1960s. Near the end of that decade, its reformulation of Ultrashene as Afroshene resulted in a poor product for long curly hair. Mr. Johnson acknowledged in the 1970s, a Federal Trade Commission investigation into the marketing of hair straighteners disrupted the industry. So you want to talk about the rap police, here come the feds. Yeah, [ __ ] You making way too doing way too much. Yeah, y'all thought he was gonna get No, them feds saw him. They like, "Oh, wait a minute. How the hell this [ __ ] get by? We through all these obstacles. We have a whole system that is built to filter you out and keep you out. So, if you find a way to engineer around the system, better believe they coming. They didn't miss you." They're like, "Oh, J Ed Gahoo. Oh, wait a minute now. Oh, hell no. Once again, by the way, everybody else doesn't have that problem. They can just move as they please, even if it's illegal. Hello, Uber. They can do that today. But if you black, somebody coming to snoop through your books to see if they can find a way to shut you down.

It goes on to say here in 1976, Johnson Products negotiated a consent order to add a warning that its products containing sodium hydroxide or lye could cause scalp irritation and eye injury. This was over a year before Revlon. This was over a year before Revlon, its far larger competitor, agreed to warning labels. A lag that may have given Revlon an edge with black consumers. So, yeah, the feds came to shake down Johnson products over a year before they went to go talk to their fellow white folk. But this isn't a conspiracy. This isn't systematic racism. This is not systemic racism. NO, Y'ALL JUST MAKING THAT UP. This is the 1970s now. Ain't no systemic racism here. We were going to re We're just going in alphabetical order. What? See, your name is Johnson. Their name is Revlon. So, we're just going in alphabetical order. Even though Revlon is way bigger than you, we're we're going to you first because well, J comes before R in the alphabet. So, we're just going to J first. We'll get to R in a couple years, just that we can see if we can bankrupt you first. While African-Americans made up a small part of Revlon's market, they represented almost all of Johnson products and its share of the relaxer market skidded to 45% down from 85% in 2 years. Mr. Johnson also said he faced racial discrimination, contending that distributors "don't seem to want black products to be exposed to all Americans." Well, no, they didn't put us on the shelves anywhere.

In early 1979, a heavy snowstorm in Chicago brought the company to a near standstill for more than a month, blocking truckers from transporting supplies or shipments and damaging its plant. George Ellis Johnson was born on June 16th, 1927 in a sharecropper shack in Richton, Mississippi, and moved to Chicago with his mother Priscilla when he was two. Although his education ended in the 11th grade, he was awarded nine honorary doctorates over his lifetime. Last year, Mr. Johnson published Afroshene: How I Revolutionized an Industry with the Golden Rule: From Soul Train to Wall Street, a memoir written with Hillary Beard. Mrs. Johnson wound up with control of the company when the couple divorced in 1989. After some disruptions, including the departure of her son, Eric, as president and chief executive, she sold Johnson products to the Ivac Corporation in 1993, netting about $32 million or $75 million today. The Johnsons remarried in 1995. She died in 2019. IVAC sold the company to Proctor and Gamble in 2004 before it was bought by a consortium of African-American investment firms in 2009.

"When I think about pioneers, the real pioneers are the people who are able to make a path where none exists. Eric Johnson, that's George Johnson's son, told CNN after his mother died in 2019. Johnson Products in many ways was that company. She and my father had no provided path. They created a path where there was none."

George Johnson was 99 years old. 99. When you want to talk about the inddehaticable spirit, the indomitable spirit, and why it is that these white supremists BASTARDS HAD TO DROP BOMBS on Black Wall Street, they had to go torching places. They had to resort to just outright domestic terrorism with a domestic terroristic government. And you think I am ever going to let them off the hook for reparations? [ __ ] please. >> You think I'm ever going to let them off the hook? You owe a damn bill. We're here to collect on account of the fact that we've documented every damn dirty STUNT YOU PULLED. NOBODY has had to sit up here. All they had to do was fight other white folk, fight other white competitors. There's no group that every time you try to make more than $20, you have to go head-to-head against the city government, the state government, and the federal government all ganging up on you. Not to mention their white supremacist citizenry that they've deputized. Nobody else gets ganged up on by the federal government. Nobody else has that happening. No one else encounters that generation after generation from the very beginning. They all were allowed to rise and the only folks they had to fight were other private citizens and they had to fight them in the marketplace. We never got to have a straight up fight in the marketplace. It was always, okay, these other folk in the marketplace, the government's helping them and putting their finger on the scales and helping them to target you and let's make some local regulations or state regulations to target just your business. And even if we do make laws that apply to everybody else, we're only going to enforce them against you. So, yeah, that's what the hell we've been dealing with. Oh, hell no. Oh, no. No, no, no. You got a bill. You got a bill. Everything you didn't give him, we going to collect. You have a bill. I wanted you all to understand that that's where we come from in this regard. And there has been a concerted conscious effort to target us, to undermine us generationally. Every time you turn around, we have this outrageous level of government scrutiny and and and invasiveness and investigation. Everything's concentrated on that. Industry after industry. Nobody can just be left alone to move how they need to move.

You got white companies out here that are literally breaking the law. I need to give y'all the rundown again. Uber should have had a RICO against it a decade ago. Uber was breaking the law. Uber created a computer program called Greyball. Greyball was specifically for the purposes of circumventing the local police department. Greyball specifically targeted the local police departments where Uber was operating. We're not talking about Omie and a Hellcat and just one dude in a house somewhere. Greyball was a Silicon Valley start from a Silicon Valley startup with hundreds of million dollars in funding and they were targeting the local police department to circumvent the local laws. And that's Uber did not say what are the local laws and let's follow them. They put their developers to work to say, "Here are the local laws. Now give us a way to fight around that." Well, sir, that's not really legal. Okay. Well, you let our lawyers worry about that. You give us a program to circumvent the police. And that's what they did. Okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not finding a loophole. That's just breaking the law. That's not a loophole, people. Uber did not make a loophole. They just said, "Damn the law. We want this program that'll help us to be able to target whether or not the police are calling for an Uber. So, make sure you don't send one to these areas because that might be the police checking to see if we're illegally operating. So, give us a program that will help to detect if the police are trying to see if we're illegally operating. Don't send them an Uber so that they don't have proof." That was what it was. That's not a loophole. That's damn the law. That's damn the law. That's the way everybody else been operating. Damn that. We don't have to respect any law. We don't have to observe anything. We're white. We going to do this. That's how you got Uber today. Guess what? That's also how you got Airbnb. Airbnb. What local regulations? What local law? Move fast and break things. Do what you please and let's see if we get sued later or whatever. Nobody stepped in to shut Airbnb down. They allowed them to keep operating, allowed them to get billions of dollars in funding. If you were black, you'd never be allowed to get that far along. They would have elevated it to a criminal case and come and arrested everybody and shut all of you down. That you wouldn't have been allowed to stay working and operating that long. They would have been come to get you at the local level. Forget the state level. They would have come to arrest everybody at the local level. You'd have been gone. Talking about the FTC and interstate commerce. Oh no, you'd have been gone.

Take a look at what some of the stuff that Facebook does today. How about Tesla? You want to talk about breaking some laws there? How about them? False advertising, misrepresentation blatantly. Oh, well, oh, we don't like your local laws for selling cars. We're going to sell cars anyway. Now, you try that and they'll come and arrest you in your city. You try that in Marietta, Georgia, and they coming to get you. And meanwhile, these folks over here are allowed to build multi-billion dollar empires. And when the city and the state do finally step in, they step in as collaborators. They step in saying, "Okay, here's how we can work together. Here's how we can set up rules so that you can continue operating." They don't set up rules to say, "Here's how we're going to shut you down." They say, "Here's how we're going to help you out." in the chat room. Online gambling, it continues. Ain't a damn thing changed. Now, of course, if they found a gambling service that a black person started, well, they would already have indicted you and they'd already have your RICO going. But the the issue is uh ain't no black folk doing that. But if you try it, they're coming with your Rico. They're going to tell you this is illegal and they're coming with the Rico right off the gap. So that's the way they've always done this. We've always been targeted. They're not targeting Asians, not targeting Arabs, not targeting Jews, not targeting Latinos, not targeting Arabs, not targeting Italians. We're the only ones they're targeting for anything and everything. You got Asians all across this country got they prostitution rings. Oh, I'm sorry. Your massage parlors. Every city in America got Asians sitting up here sex trafficking. Would you like your m your massage? They've been doing that for decades. But they'll come kick your door in, Briana Taylor, after they lie and say you had drugs. They'll come kick the door in for that. But the Asians can operate their whouses in every southern city in America. And these same police and the state ain't saying nothing or doing nothing. Now, isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing? Okay. All right. Yeah. They write all these laws, but the only people that they enforce the laws on is us. Everybody else is exempt from the law. The only folks they actually enforce the law against is us. Just us. It's called targeting. And I just want you to understand that's the way it's always been. And particularly they have only targeted the foundation. The whole goal is to ensure that the descendants of the American slaves do not complete their stated purpose of defeating and dismantling the wicked system of white supremacy. So targeting your funding is essential.

Now, I'm doing tonight's program because there's something else I want to discuss. I want to discuss the mental and the emotional uh mind job and mind hacking that they do here. I want to discuss that because you see there are so many people out there that they have been pulled into the idea that we as our own WORST ENEMIES. WE ALL [ __ ] DON'T NEED NO REPARATIONS. All you gonna do if you ever did get some money, all you gonna do is go down TO THE LIQUOR STORE AND GO BUY SOME RIMS. Sit your ass down. Y'all see that [ __ ] stand up. Tell him sit the hell down and shut up. I need I want you all to understand first and foremost, we do have an issue within the group. We got an issue within the soil. You got to understand that there are individuals who for whatever reason they have failed among our group. They never really got any respect. So basically they sit among the rest of us and they they they want to undermine us. They keep praying for us to fail as a group because they never got they never were accepted among the group the way they thought they should have been. So what they've done is they've made it their goal and their like Clarence Thomas' you it's like okay this little cornball was never really accepted from the group. So they make it their mission to try to undermine everybody else. That's their way of quote getting even. So every time things come up they start talking like they better than everybody else. I mean, this [ __ ] is down here changing tires at the local tire shop and he's talking as if he's damn George Jefferson on the upper east side like he's looking down on everybody else. I mean, his car is sitting on faux may pops and yet he's talking like he's better than everybody else. So just recognize you have a lot of folk out there that they're very jealous and very envious and very resentful. So that's the energy that they bring is when we start talking about the group, they have contempt for the group, not because there's an actual failure, but because they've never been accepted. So they start channeling their inner white supremacist and speaking against the group because they've never really been accepted. So they start hoping that the group will fail.

In reality, that is everybody's greatest fear. Their greatest fear. See, understand something. Consumer products are easy to purchase. Consumer products are easy to purchase, which is why so many people sit up here and can go for that. The thing is, however, the reason why they're buying cheaper consumer products in many cases is because they lack the funding to be able to get the stuff they really want. They really want to do something life-changing, but because you have a systemic practice of depriving them of resources, everybody else has got access to resources. You're being deprived of resources. So what that does is lead you off into consumerism. And then folks say, "See, he doesn't want to do anything else but consumerism." See, see, he doesn't want to do anything else. That's all he wants to do. He just wants to do that. So, I want you all to understand that's a mind game that goes on. That's a deliberate mind game that goes on.

Now, I got something I want to show you here because there are some clips I want to play for you all that really, really did bring this to my attention. There's a reason why they don't want you to start thinking in those terms. Now, I want you to just soak up the knowledge from this here first. Okay? We're going to get off into some of the other specifics about this a little bit later, but I want you all to absorb the knowledge of this first. I want to start, we're going to take us through a trip through the music industry. So, just so we can hear about a difference in mindsets and how it works. This is one short here in particular. We got Ray Daniels explaining how NLE Chopper knew about better how to get his album out there than the so-called record labels. I want you to hear what they had to say.

>> I remember I signed Chopper. This [ __ ] Chopper told the label first release. He's like, "No, we're not putting that out." He's like, he's like, "No, we're not putting that out." They was like, "They wanted to drop a record Thursday night." Chopper said, "No, we're not dropping it Thursday. We dropping it Friday at 5:26 p.m. The label was like, "What? No, no, no. 12:00 a.m. Every label, every song drops." That [ __ ] said, "Not mine." because I [ __ ] go. He said, "Not mine." Because my fan base going to get out of school at 3:00. They going to do their chores. They going to do their homework and they going to turn on YouTube around 5:30 and they need to see me. And I remember the label was like, "You need to talk to them right and tell them that's wrong." [ __ ] I was like, "I got y'all." I went to chop. I said, "Hey, bro. Do what the [ __ ] you want to do. Whatever you was doing, got us to give you $8 million. Do not listen to these people. They not know better. Cuz if they knew, we would be doing. We [music] don't know. They're just trying to make you follow industry rules." They came back in the room. Chopper was like, "No." Song goes out, it goes number one. Everything works. [ __ ] I I famously say I learned from Enal Chopper. I gota act like I'm the gatekeeper. That's That little [ __ ] taught me so much being around a 17-y old whiz kid that understood his audience. I remember by sign chopper. It's nice to be around folks who ain't haters. By the way, just a reminder, it's nice to be around folks who ain't haters. You have a young man who actually had adequate funding. First thing they do is try to tell him, "Okay, everything that you did right, you need to change that." But my real point is that, by the way, the real the only reason you had that conversation was because you had adequate funding. The only reason you had that conversation is because you got access to adequate funding. That is why it is so essential to them to try to choke you and strangle you from ever achieving any adequate funding so that you never even get this far along to have this conversation so that they have to go through all the risk and trouble of trying to mislead you into getting you to squander it. When you demonstrate that you're smarter and know better than them, now you're free. You have adequate funding and you show that you're smarter than them and you're showing you won't be misled. Now you're free.

Oh man. Well, you know, it doesn't just stop there. The real thing that got me working on tonight's program and wanting to focus on this subject matter. Actually, the real thing that did it was this clip right here. I think it's Rod Wave talking to Joe Budden, I think it is. And I want you all to hear about this story. He's going to be explaining about his merchandise and it's what he says about his uncle. It's what he mentions about his uncle that really caught my attention and disproves all this garbage and really explains what they consider to be the great threat. Which is why they have to make sure you never get any funding. Pay attention.

The merch deal that I took, one merch deal, [ __ ] gave me 200,000 to do my merch for my first tour. Okay. My uncle was able to like the [ __ ] they bringing us to the warehouse and showing us how it go and we learning and get back in the truck like man we ain't doing this [ __ ] no more. These folks ain't doing nothing. These folks ain't doing nothing. So he even though he was street smart and he wanted really like hip to the beat like we learned the [ __ ] together and he was kind of breaking it down to me like no them folks ain't [music] >> no we don't need them no more. We can go buy a watch and go buy a car. you can go buy your own clothes and have the pay these folk to print it up, pay these [music] folk to transport it, and we going to do that. And I went from $200,000 to 14 men just taking control of my own merch. Damn. [screaming]

Do y'all realize how much game was just in that explanation that he gave you? What they'll tell you is your uncle is stupid. Your uncles are drunk. He ain't never built nothing. He ain't never did nothing. And what I'm saying is, has have they ever had the opportunity to? Did they ever get even get the opportunity to? The whole point is to make sure you are locked out, kept out that it's not even a thought that could filter into your head that you could ever do anything other than change these tires and make these damn burgers over here. The whole thing is about making sure that you are completely and totally locked out and segregated from the system. Not by inches, by miles. That is just something that isn't even conceivable. Now, I'm not saying that everybody's uncle is like that, but did you hear the part where he said my uncle was street smart? What he was saying, my uncle didn't really have formal business training. Okay, but do you see how quickly he was really underestimating his uncle? Do you see how quickly his uncle figured that out? His uncle didn't say, "Hey man, you need to let these white folk run things for you here. You got a good thing go and let his uncle said, "Man, look here. You don't need them for that." The first thing his uncle arrived at is, "Man, you don't need them for that." And here's my point to my brothers and sisters from around the world. His uncle was from the previous generation. Obviously, his uncle was locked out. Where would his uncle have been if somebody had had $200,000 to invest in him? What did y'all get that? Take a look at his uncle's reflexive reaction. You had $200,000 invested. He took a look at what happened. His uncle immediately went to, "Okay, here's how we can maximize that." Well, I wonder what your uncle could have done if when he was your age, if there had been somebody to invest that $200,000 in him. You want to know why they want to keep the reparations check away from you? What? That didn't take millions. He was able to take hundreds of thousands. And we off to millions with one decision. Vertical integration. Y'all ain't ready for this. That's what y'all were taught in school that term. But talking about your street, you're from the street. You didn't have formal business training. Uh I got some formal business training for all of y'all. It's called vertical integration. They give it a fancy term. It just means taking the other processes and the steps of production onto yourself. Instead of outsourcing it to other people, you bring that inhouse. That's called vertical integration. [clears throat] Instead of handing it out horizontally to other people, you integrate it vertically for your own operation. And then you keep all the costs and the profits to yourself. His uncle understood vertical integration even if he had never heard that term before. Do y'all get that? Okay. It doesn't matter if you don't understand the term. As long as you understand the process, we good. We good. And their goal is to convince you that you this is beyond you and above you and oh, we got some super secret way of doing things and you could never really understand or comprehend how great it is what we do. And the uncle was undeterred. The instant that he saw that he recognized, hey, we can do this. They're not doing anything that you can't do yourself. So, the real question is, well, damn, Uncle, why is it you didn't do it before now, Rod? Cuz he didn't have somebody to who could put $200,000 into it. Not because he didn't know. Because they they just made sure. Oh, you ain't gonna get that. Rod had an internet. Remember back in during the Soul Train days, if you didn't get on television or radio, you were locked out. And they locked everybody out. Diana Ross could go sleep with some WHITE MEN. WHAT? [screaming] DAMN. OH, am I saying too much? Did I say too much? Am I gonna run some folk off right now? That upset some people. Oh man, I shouldn't have said that. Okay, I'mma watch my subscriber counts go down. Fortunately for me, I don't live off of subscribers, but yeah. Did I Did I say something I shouldn't have said? HELLO, DOROTHY DANDRIDGE. WHAT? [screaming] DAMN. HELLO, Nina Simone. DAMN. >> OKAY, let me leave that right there. Let me stop. Let me just quit. All right. before they start getting mad at me and throwing rotten fruit to their cell phones. Oh, I'm not supposed to say that. I'm not supposed to talk about all the folk who quote unquote got into the industry. I ain't supposed to say that part. Oh, okay. I'm not supposed to walk you down that and remind you. Okay, never mind. Hey, Billy Holiday. Oh, okay. Let [clears throat] me just go. Somebody chat say Josephine Baker, Jennifer Lewis. Okay. Maya Angelou, Oprah Winfrey. All right. Earth the kit. Let me just quit. All right. Talent, folks. Talent is just talent. That's the problem. You understand? Talent. Talent. It's all talent. Okay. Yeah. See, back in the radio and television days, if you couldn't figure out your way to cozy up to the right folk, you usually found yourself locked out. Rodwave is here in the internet era. So he's got avenues of promotion, distribution, marketing, reaching the audience, broadcasting that the previous generation simply did not have. You had Don Cornelius and that was it. Everybody else was locked out and the feds going after as many as they could. So you had Easy E and two Shorts selling tapes out of the trunk, but they had to also be in major American cities close to some of these entertainment venues. Everybody else and you were just on the outside looking in. So Rod has had avenues that his uncle simply did not have. But as soon as his uncle saw it, he said, "Okay, good. Let me throw that one more for y'all."

>> See what I'm saying? The merch deal that I took, one merch deal. [ __ ] gave me 200,000 to do my merch for my first tour. >> Okay. >> My uncle was able to like the [ __ ] they bringing us to the warehouse and showing us how it go and we learning and get back in the truck like man we ain't doing this [ __ ] no more. These folks ain't doing nothing. These folks ain't doing nothing. So he even though he was street smart and he weren't really like hip to the B like we learned the [ __ ] together and he was kind of breaking it down to me like no them folks ain't >> no we don't need them no more we can go >> I don't know how you go buy a watch and go buy a car you can go buy your own clothes and have the pay these folk to print it up pay these folk to transport it and we going to do that and I went from $200 to 14 men just taking control of my own merch you see >>

All right, let me go ahead and remind y'all something about the hustlers Hustlers on the street. I'm talking about the dope game. Let me just not say hustlers. I'm talking about the dope game. [ __ ] be upset if you want to. The dope game is real easy to figure out. It's a very basic economic principle. Buy low, sell high. Pardon the expression. It's a basic economic principle. Can you get the product at a lower price and sell it for a markup? That's your profit. In regular economics, they refer to it as the manufacturer, wholesaler, distributor, retailer, and you're the end consumer. So, in traditional manufacturing, those would be the four the uh three middlemen before it makes it to you. Manufacturer, wholesaler, distributor, retailer. and you go to Walmart and you're dealing with the retailer. If you can vertically integrate those other steps, you might be like Walmart for some of their products or Costco for some of their products. And you can do that. But what I'm saying is that the economic principle of profit is very simple. Buy low, find a pro product that's in demand, buy it low, and you sell it for a markup. Buy low, sell high. That's it. That's it. Now, that doesn't mean that everything has that type of appreciating value, but I'm just saying that is the basic principle it's based on. If you can find something that's valuable, buy it at a lower price than retail and then you sell it for a higher price. Boom. Done. [clears throat] Done. The same rule that applies. They allow there's nobody if you're willing to break all the rules like Uber and Tesla. Damn. If you're willing to break all the rules, you might go get you a pack. You might go get you a few ounces. You might go get you a kilo or two. Okay, but that kilo is worthless if you cannot apply the basic economic principles of capitalism. That's not You can't make a profit unless you do that. So, it doesn't matter whether it's a kilo, whether it's a car, whether it's jewelry, whether it's real estate. There's no such thing as a profit without a markup. You buy it at a lower price and then you have to figure out a way to sell it for a higher price than you bought it for and that's your profit. Whether you like the car lots and you do it by financing it, real estate, whether it's depreciation or arbitrage, I can go down the list, but some mechanisms are fancier than others. But the bottom line is you have to buy at a lower price than you're going to and you're going to sell it, but at a higher price than you bought it for. That applies to drugs, t-shirts, music, movies, cars, tires, real estate. It applies to every product and every service. Every product and every service. Can you sell it for more than it costs you to acquire it? Now, that doesn't require an MBA. That doesn't require going to the Wharton School of Business or the Harvard School of Business. That doesn't require that. And they'll have you thinking that it requires that. No, it doesn't. And don't get me wrong, there's stuff that you can learn about big business and big finance at those other places that you can't learn on the street. Well, that's true. However, for the basics and stuff. Oh, no. And they getting over on they're stopping us out the gate. It's the basics. And Rod Wave is sitting there right there telling you his street wise uncle ain't never been to a business school or this that and the other and just that quickly immediately realize hey here's how we can vertically integrate this. And I submit to you the only reason that the damn delay was this long is because the uncle didn't have somebody the reason his uncle couldn't get to 14 million like Rod did is there was they made sure that his uncle couldn't get to 200,000. Does that sound familiar? Oh, George Johnson. Yeah, we won't have to worry about you ever getting to a 100red million if we can starve your ass of the 200 of the 250. They wouldn't let you have $250. So they would never have to worry about you making it to a hundred million. We're going to make sure you don't get anything. So just like on the plantations, they want somebody to monitor you to make sure y'all ain't coming up with ideas they didn't approve cuz they're like, "Okay, don't you know these [ __ ] will want more? Don't you know they going to flip this?" It's not that they're worse. We have a system in place that makes sure that they stay oppressed. We have a system in place to make sure that they stay disadvantaged. We have a system in place to make sure that they stay sabotaged and undermined. This is not natural selection. If we were allowed to freely compete, everything would look like football and basketball. They saw what happened when we were actually allowed to openly compete. And now everything is orchestrated to make sure that don't happen again. They're not wondering what will occur. They already know what will occur. They already know what we can do. They already know we chomping at the bit. They already know this. Everything is about starving you of resources at the granular level, making sure you never even have the possibility of getting off the ground. So yeah, you sitting up here talking about can I get a few thousand? Nope. Now, if you want a credit card to dig you into debt, well, they'll throw that to you in college. If you're a college student, they'll give you a credit card. Yeah. Because credit cards are basically set there to go make consumer purchases. Being able to get a credit card and convert that into cash rather than simply swiping it for purchases. That's the trick of it. Which, by the way, can be done. But just understand, they're letting you know that, yeah, we're only going to loan you stuff for consumer products. So, it starts communicating to you and cultivating in your head that the only transactions you should be making are for consumer products because that's the only door that actually opens. The only door that will actually open for you on a reliable basis is the one for consumer goods. And you can get a loan for consumer goods. We'll sell you a house. Yeah. With a subprime mortgage. Good luck converting that to equity. So now you start getting conditioned to think the only door you can open is for consumer goods. Yeah. Cuz it's the only one that opens. They make it hell for any of those other doors to open. They make it hell. And it's not accidental. This is endemic. It's nationwide. It doesn't matter where you are. You run into the same problem anywhere in this system that you go. Being a consumer, easy. Being a producer, all of a sudden the doors are locked. Nobody even wants to have a conversation with you. The first thing they start doing is trying to dis they openly start discouraging you. See, when you're white kids, they start giving you help. They give you advice. They tell you, "Here's what you need to do." When you're black, it's Yeah, that's a stupid idea. That's dumb. We don't even want to talk about that. Bye. It becomes that. So, it becomes about openly discouraging you. And what I really mean is openly attacking you. And don't let it be your black babies. Don't let it be your black children. They have no mercy on your black children. If they see that your black daughter is smart, your black daughter is resourceful, they're going to immediately start attacking her. If they see that your black son is resourceful and innovative, they're going to immediately start attacking him. Here you go, little [ __ ] Forget that little stupid idea you talking about. Going into business, that ain't for you. Here, why don't you hold this football? Damn. Yeah, don't worry about going into business. That's not really for you. How about you hold this football? Why don't you do that? Next thing you know, I want y'all to follow this here. They don't encourage your black children.

To have an internet startup or Silicon Valley startup, but they'll be quick to tell your kids, "Why don't you be a gymnast or here's this football?" Okay, they start that when your kids are in the fifth grade. Now they're going to run that for the next six, seven years. So your children's most formative years in life. They done shoved a football in their hands to see if they ever work out. So they're working on that 24/7. They encourage you to do that 24/7.

By the time they make their decision, because remember, only less than 1% of them are ever going to go on to the pros. So by the time they get to college and we finally do the final filtering out of the 99% your kids have spent a decade trying to get there. That's the only thing they've cultivated. It's the only thing that they know and then they tell them, "Oh, you ain't going to make it." Well, yeah, but now they've eaten up a decade of their lives. That's not accidental. They ate up that decade. Okay. Well, here comes the whammy. Yeah, we ain't doing nothing with you. The folks who put a football in their hands, put a basketball in their hands, they'll be the ones come back. They're going to keep them occupied for a decade. And then at the end of that decade, yeah, we ain't doing nothing with you. Yeah, we do that. from the age of nine or 10 until they're 18, 19 years old, that whole critical decade, they told them, "Yeah, you you can't really economics, that ain't for you. Business, that's not for you." They sit there and attack them. Yeah.

Now they're little white kids. They don't do that. They make sure these white kids, they'll go change city council rules to go give them let them do their lemonade stand or whatever. And then they teach them, by the way, rules don't really matter. We got the rules for the [ __ ] down there. You go start an Uber, damn local laws. Well, they're teaching their kids the rules don't apply. Well, they teach your black kids. You better stick by them rules. Hey, you want to be a good person? Y'all ain't ready for this level. Y'all are not ready for this level. What do they teach the white kids? Ain't no rules. Mark Zuckerberg, Snapchat, you name it. WhatsApp, ain't no rules. Your job is to get it. And there are no rules what it teacher black children. You don't want to be a bad person, do you? You're a black male. You don't want people thinking negatively of you, do you? So, you need to make sure that everything that you do is legal and above board and honorable. You need to make sure that you follow all the rules because you don't want people thinking negatively of you and your people, do you? So, you better follow all the rules. Man, when they gonna break it down for y'all like that so you can have this conversation. When you going to have them break it down like this so you can have this conversation. That's something right there that folk ain't been talking about. But by the way, let me bring that to light. Let me bring that to light. bringing that 720 degrees so that you can see exactly what that is. That ain't no game. They're not playing with that. No, they're telling your kids here are the rules and everything's complicated. And you don't want us to think less of you. That ain't what they're telling their children. They're telling their children, "Look here. You do whatever you got to do, however, get whatever you can get, however you can get it. Ain't no rules for you. Those rules rules are for everybody else. Ain't no rules for you. They don't have that. When's the last time they had that conversation with your black children? Ain't no rules, man. You do what you got to do. They do that with them young. They do it with the other folk young. They don't sit up here and tell you that. They make sure not to say that to you. That's not accidental.

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This is the Black Channel. I am your host, your brother, your humble servant, the black authority. Very glad to be with you all here this evening as we are discussing why they fear black people getting funding. They are terrified and scared to death of that. And there was a recent interview that I'm so glad he gave this and in many ways I wish I'd have done something a little bit different. Wish I I'd have done that. And who knows I might get a chance to do this in the future. Might have an opportunity to do this in the future. We'll see how things go. Matthew Nolles. Beyonce's father, Matthew Nolles, gave an interview here to TSM Madison. He gave an interview here. And I got to tell you, really, you want to go hear this. You really do. I I want y'all to understand that. You really do want to hear it because I think it's worth it. I really do think it's well worth it. And I don't really endorse interviews from other folk like that like that, but this one in particular, I'm very glad that he sat down with them and and laid down the game and laid down the story because it was very eye opening, I think, especially for him to go on the record, for him to go on the record the way that he did. So, I'm not going to play the whole thing. Although to be totally honest, I really do encourage you all. If you hadn't seen this interview over there, you really want to go check it out. It's really, really worth it. What I want to do is I want to play part of this here. I want to play part of this. By the way, fair use. TS fair use. And y'all definitely go check it out because it's an hourong interview. It's well worth it. I can't say that enough. I want to play this first part here because he talks about kind of how um how he used to drop the girls off and how he didn't it wasn't wasn't really his goal to get into the music business like that. Listen to what he got to say >> is that I used to drop uh Beyonce off to practice in girls time >> and and Tina was at the hair salon and I would drop her off because on the weekends, you know, that's when you're really busy at the hair salon. So I would do all of the mommy things with the girls cuz she was at work >> and and I would go play basketball cuz I love basketball and I would go pick her up and then they went to Star Search which is like American Idol and they lost and I I you know it wasn't my plan to be part of the music industry. I was still in medicine in in the medical field. But when they lost in, I saw them crying their hearts out. And I asked the uh I forgot his name, Ed McMahon. >> Amen. >> And I say like, "What, you know, what does a dad do?" You know, these little girls work their heart out. The manager didn't listen to me cuz I told them not to do this song that had rap in it. Cuz these white judges, they had never heard rap before. And I said, "No, let's do the ballot." But no, what did I know? And >> okay, so now Matthew is giving y'all his story about what happened with Star Search. So he's letting you know that by the way, he wasn't really managing at the time, but he's like, "By the way, that that's what they came up with and he didn't agree with it and things went the way it went." However, then he has a talk with Ed McMahon and well, let's see which way things go. >> They lost. And so I said, "Well, what do I do?" He said, "For some reason, Mr. Mr. Nos, when these artists continuously win on my show, they don't go anywhere professionally. But those that lost, and he started naming, do you know some of the people lost on Star Search? Usher, >> oh, >> Aaliyah, >> oh, >> uh, Boys to Men, uh, Justin Timberlake, Alana Marcett, he and on and on and on. All of these huge names that lost the first time on Star Search." He said those people went back and they refocused dedic rededicated made changes in the organization. That's how I got started. I ended up going back to college uh and and I took artist management, music production courses, publishing courses so that I have some idea what I was doing. And I went to every seminar that I could go to. First of all, let me stop this for a moment, pop my collar, and tip my hat to Matthew Nolles. people. How many of you if your children tried to accomplish something, you would go and enroll yourself in college to gain more education for yourself to be able to benefit your children. Not to benefit you, but for you. Something happened to your kids led you to go to college to get more education to benefit them. We need more black parents like that right there. We need more black parents that their goal is what will benefit the children, not what will benefit them. And please understand at this point in time, he's going to go into more detail. He didn't even have to do this. He did not have to do that at all because it wasn't about him. We're gonna get to that in a minute. But you want to talk about what black parenthood is missing? A bunch of thoughts sitting up here 40 and 50 years old trying to go to the dance club and compete against 20 year old girls. What? and dudes sitting up here trying to figure out how they can relive their 20s. Matthew was about that life and was like, "Okay, that didn't work for the daughters. Let me see what I got to do. Let me be the catalyst." He didn't say, "Well, Beyonce is a little girl. When she gets old enough," see, that's the typical dumb [ __ ] response. when she gets old enough, I'll let her know that she need to go to college. See, some of y'all want to blame your parents for that. I got mine. You need to get yours. Meanwhile, there's a bunch of you got kids and you've invested nothing in their future. You won't even invest time. This You want to know how he got where he is and you didn't? He's This is how dedicated to his daughters he was. He didn't say when Beyonce get old enough I'll encourage her to go to college. He said I'm going to go myself. She's not going to have we're not going to wait for her to do that. I'm going to take care of this. I'm going to invest in her through me. Do you understand how much respect I got for that? that he saw something his daughter needed and he didn't say, "Well, let me wait till she get old enough. I got other stuff to do." He said, "Let me take this bull by the horns and I'm going to invest in it." Not because he needed it. Not because he's going to sing a tune, not because of that. So, you see, this is teamwork making the dream work by him saying he's putting in effort himself. There's a whole lot of lessons, a whole bunch of you so-called parents in here. Yeah. You need to understand you're stepping your game up. Yeah. This is what it looks like. It looks like this right here, by the way. And and I would be the person, you know, the person bug you because they keep asking questions. My thing was I paid, you paid, and you going to be quiet. I'm going to ask questions. >> Uh and began to understand the industry. That's how I got involved. Not in the very very beginning because by that time there had been about 25 little girls in girls time. It was always constantly somebody in and out in and out. Uh, and and that's when we uh did we became more strategic. Uh Tina got involved with their imaging. She had already gotten involved but now she really got involved with their imaging. And and I built a team. You know, it's not just I is we because they had the talent, they had the passion always. It was just putting it together the right way. >> That's how I got started. >> Okay. And so I I hear >> Well, that was important for that level of investing and that was good. That was really, really good. That was that's important for that level of investing. I don't want you to forget that. I don't want you to lose that. However, there's another part of it and I wanted to save that. So now, once again, I'm going to have to say here before we get started, this part right here, I have thought it over. I did not have enough time to cut this out and edit it because it probably really does need that. Uh, I'm just going to warn you in advance, Jason. You doing a lot of waffling. Um, Matthew about to get raw with it. For those of you who have not seen this interview yet, Matthew about to get raw with it, and he's going to use a phrase that he just keeps using over and over and over again. So, he's going to be given a lot of information, but he he's going he's going to get raw here for a minute. So, I'll do my best to try to edit this to a certain degree. There's just so much I can do, but I I don't want to have to clip it too much because I believe there's a lot in here to learn, including dispelling the notion of who built who. Did Beyonce open up opportunities for Matthew Nolles or did Matthew Nolles build this thing from the ground up? I'll let Matthew Nolles tell you all where he came from. was fortunate to work at Xerox Corporation back in the day and I was the number one sales rep in the world. Not in America, not in Alabama. Um, uh, uh, Texas, but in the world in the medical division of Xerox, number one in the world, multiple years. I'm going to continue to talk my [ __ ] the first black person in America to sell MRI CT scanners with Phillips Medical Systems. And then I was a neurosurgical specialist with Johnson and Johnson. So that's my 20 years in corporate America with excellence. See, I don't just talk [ __ ] I do [ __ ] We're going to change that to talk do [ __ ] So now we're going to move on from corporate America to something I'm really proud of. Beyonce and Solange being a father. Uh, and I'll talk my [ __ ] Proud I am to be their father first. I'm going continue to talk my [ __ ] Now got kids. Me and my former wife, Miss Tina Yaena, we own the number one black hair salon in Houston. Oh, okay. >> In the8s, made our first million dollars. Let me talk my in 19 >> Okay, y'all. I might need to just go ahead and let him just keep popping it and talking it >> being a father. Uh, and I'll talk my how proud I am to be their father first. I'm going continue to talk my So now got kids. Me and my former wife, Miss Tina, y'all Cena, we own the number one black hair salon in Houston in the 80s. Made our first million dollars. Let me talk my in 1985. For all of y'all that talk [ __ ] think Beyonce made me know. We were millionaires when she was 8. One, two, three, four, five. She was four years old. So, let me talk my [ __ ] Head. Okay. Matthew said, "Let me stop for a minute and clear this record up for those of you who think that Beyonce built me, that I was eating off Beyonce." He's like, "Dude, we had mills back in the 80s. Beyonce came from a built family. So he's letting you know we had the largest hair store back in Houston. We wasn't struggling like that. He worked in corporate America. He was a top salesman. Okay. They went and opened a hair store. So he's letting you know, oh no, we wasn't scrapping and scraping like that. What E4 say? I was having B R E A way before this rap game, [ __ ] So Matthew is letting you know. So I'm I'm letting him spit. Well, I wanted to let you know, I'm so glad he cleared that. Let me say for all y'all folks who think Beyonce built me, that Beyonce opened the door for me. Uh, no. You don't have the facts. Let me explain to you. We had We were millionaires back in the 80s. Beyonce didn't get popping until the 90s. We were millionaires in the 80s. That's how she had the resources to do what she did. So, you didn't even know about the hair place. Okay. Well, Matthew is letting you know you for all y'all folk talking about she built me. It's like, okay, I ain't got to convince you, Beyonce knows. Made our first million dollars. Let me talk my in 1985. For all of y'all that talk think Beyonce made me. No, we were millionaires when she was 81, two, three, four, five. She was four years old. So let me talk my headliners hair salon number one. You'll hear this number one [ __ ] all throughout. So now let's move to the music industry and let me talk my >> So let me see Destiny's Child to be their manager and also uh having a deal with Columbia Records. So they were also signed to Music World Entertainment. my label. Let me talk my those ladies who are uber talented. Number one female group in the history of music. Let me talk my Let me continue. Solange, Grammy Award winner, number one album on Billboard. Beyonce and Solange are only two sisters in the history of music to have number one albums in the same year on the Billboard charts. Let me continue to talk my and you know you already know what Beyonce has done. I think she has more Grammys than any artist on the planet. uh continue to talk my [ __ ] as I was the one who architect Destiny's Child and Beyonce and Solange and Kelly and Michelle's career. Let me continue to talk my So, y'all don't know this, but in 2002, I sold Music World to a UK company. Google everything I say. Don't trust what I'm saying. Go Google it. I sold it for $10 million and formed a joint venture, Music World Sanctuary Urban, of which that division I was the president. I'll continue to talk my But what you might don't know is I made five young black men, five of them in their 20s, early 30s, millionaires because I bought their management company. So what you might don't know is Nelly's manager I bought this company. That's why Kelly and Nelly did dilemma. You talk my [ __ ] Also I bought two young men their company and they had Floretry Eve and then eventually they had Lady Gaga. Let me talk my [ __ ] That's how telephone got made with Lady Gaga because I own the management company. Talk my Mary Mary bought that management company. Kendu Isaac with uh uh uh Mary J. Blend's management company. See y'all don't know. That's why I can sit here not talk [ __ ] cuz I did talk to Dio. So are we still in the music industry? Oh yeah. Y'all didn't know this. Last OJ's album I made on my record label, Music World. Uh Earth, Wind, and Fire. Y'all heard it on. Hopefully you saw that documentary. Uh did one of their album actually was the last one before Maurice died and I'm honored to have done that. Uh Shaka Khan and the London Symphony Classic Khan Talk [ __ ] My record label day soul shopping bad. Oh yeah. Shopping bags. Day on my record label. Sunshine Anderson on my record label. Talk that [ __ ] Fool in the game on my record label. Talk that talking enough [ __ ] >> No, I'm only halfway. >> I see. >> Listen. >> Okay, I'mma let y'all go. You can go and look this interview up. TS Madison, I think it is well worth your watching. Uh, Matthew Nolles is setting the record straight to let you know if you thought his knowledge stopped at his daughters. He's like, "Oh, no." First, he was building it before they got there getting them. That was part of the enterprise to build something way bigger. So, he wasn't guessing his way through this. And I got nothing but respect for how he did that. I got nothing but respect.

So, what I'm telling you here is that, by the way, this is why they want to make sure you don't get any funding. Right now, they're trying to reroute Interstate 45 through Houston to demolish as many black neighborhoods as they can. They want to make forget having a hair store. They want to make sure you ain't got no land to be on. Everything is orchestrated towards calibrating to make sure you don't have anything. you having seed funding is the threat. Not because they think you're going to go buy some rims or some weed, but because they're scared to death that that thing you've had in the back of your mind all this time, you'll finally be able to act on it. You get the weed and the rims to try to soo yourself and narcissize yourself because of this system of deprivation. Malcolm X said that in his autobiography. And then you get some [ __ ] ass clown ass [ __ ] talk stupid in reflecting his inner white supremacist telling yeah that's what y'all really want to do. No, this is what they're relegated to doing in the system of white supremacy. They know you have bigger goals and aspirations for your life. But when they convince you that that's not possible, you start medicating. You start narcissizing. You start going into escapism. You start taking small victories because you think anything bigger is impossible. Because every time you try to do it, there's some person you don't even know who's jumped out of the damn woodwork to kick your legs out from up under you to throw obstacles. You see other people getting it. And as soon as you show up, all of a sudden, yeah, we can't do nothing for you. And it becomes that. And then you get put in these isolated concentrated enclaves of poverty where you're surrounded by other folks who are in the same pit with you and then you start saying it's all our fault. And I'm not saying that you don't bear some blame and some responsibility, but it's a lie to say that concentrated areas of poverty are all your fault. That's orchestrated. that has always been orchestrated and engineered to keep you distracted, to keep you preoccupied. If we got you in an urban war zone, last thing you thinking about is making a million. You just trying to make it home in one piece. So that or that that enclave of poverty you're in was orchestrated to make sure you're not even thinking about anything other than base survival. Everything is about surviving, thriving. What the hell is that? When they keep you in a place like that, then they come bring the guns. They come make sure that the area you're in, you don't have a park, but it's armed to the teeth. And by the way, folks, does that sound familiar? Let me go ahead and take you on this trip right quick. Everywhere around the world that white supremacy is dominated, do you notice that they're deprived of food? They're deprived of shelter and resources. However, all these places have enough armament to kill themselves many times over. Let's talk about southern Asia. Let's talk about Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos. Do you understand how many landmines that they have in those places? So, these people are supposed to be dumb and uneducated and ignorant and yet there are landmines to this day all over the place. Princess Diana died advocating to clean up the world of all these landmines that have been laid over the course of the last century all over southern Asia as the United States was giving its war against communism. And yet the folks they were funding, they had all the guns and all the landmines you could possibly want. All the armament, grenades, the tools of war. So you don't have a farm, but you have a damn armorament. You don't have a farm to get food out of, but you have an armamentarium filled to the rim with weapons. Now, how the hell is it you ain't got a sandwich, but you got AK-47s and grenades? You don't have an apple or an orange to eat, but this thing is filled with weapons. You have a whole armory here. How is that accidental? Oh, okay. I'm just making it up. Okay, let's move to South America. The sandistas, the Nicaraguans. We do. We need to go down the list. Colombia, areas of so-called abject poverty that the white supremacists have got their hands all over. They don't have a farm. They don't have an economy. Weapons everywhere. Mexico, third world nation, weapons everywhere. But that's their fault, right? That That's not your white SUPREMACIST MACHINATIONS. THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT that is. That's their fault. Who brought those guns? The same folk who brought the dope over here. And then when you talk to the Matt Walshes and the Megan Kelly's and the Bill O'Reillies and they play dumb about it, who don't know who did that? Am I done yet? Hell no. Let's move on over to Africa. You take a look at all these places in Africa. Rwanda, Kenya, Nigeria, Sudan. You get the point. Don't have food. Don't have shelter. Don't have toilets. Don't have running water. Guns everywhere. Civil wars everywhere. arm to the damn teeth. Now, how the hell is it you ain't got a farm? But once again, I couldn't help but notice the pattern. Weapons everywhere. Are you sure that those white supremacists who were in Southern Asia and South America? You and and I see some of them hanging around over here in Africa. Are you sure that's not the problem? How is it you don't have food, but you've got weapons, guns, mines, grenades, rockets. You have sophisticated armorament, but you don't have food. No food, but the most upto-date guns. That's natural selection, people. That's natural. Somebody else is not egging this on and making it happen. That's just naturally occurring. That's just naturally happening. Let's move on to the Middle East. Oman, Yemen, don't have a school. Guns everywhere. Let's move on up further. Pakistan, Afghanistan, if you want to pronounce it correctly. Uh, don't have anything. Guns all over the place, weapons all over the place. Every time the news show up, we don't have a sandwich. We got an AK-47 with a donut clip. That's natural. So that's their fault. Now if they can't get their hands on food, how the hell they get their hands on all these guns that haven't been made here? Landmines ain't made here. Who's teach Well, Jason, they're making bombs. Who's giving them the materials they need to make a bomb? And who's teaching them to make it? Who's giving them that level of training? You couldn't train them for jobs, but you trained them to make bombs. Who is it who trained them? CIA, State Department, USAD. You know, the same folk who brought the dope over here. By the way, we can keep going. We really can because it doesn't just stop there, believe it or not. Take a look around at all these places where that kind of thing occurs. Take a look at Haiti. Oh guys, I told you I was going to stop. I ain't going to stop. Take a look at Haiti. Take a look at that right there. And so abject poverty, this that and the other. And meanwhile, the guns, just like everywhere else, the guns always find their way in. Y'all, isn't that amazing? Isn't it amazing how everywhere these white supremacists dominate, the folk they don't like, they're starved of money, they're starved of food, they're starved of shelter, and yet they're just overflowing with guns. Well, if somebody didn't know better, they'd swear that you were behind that. That you're starving them of everything and then giving them nothing but guns. that they can give freely. So you're not bringing in any resources, but you are bringing in weapons. Just you. And then you wake up one day and figure out that the Chinese have said too can play this game. And the Chinese said, "You know what? We're going to make sure that you have about a thousand times more fentinil for every man, woman, baby, dog, or house plant in your nation. The opium wars to the next integer. And they have absolutely flooded America with fentinil. to show America that too can play this game. If that's the way you want to play that, you want to play this game of deprivation of resources and trying to dump bad things in folks society. Okay, we can play this game with you. Watch us. Everybody knows where the fentinil is coming from. We all know. It's no secret. It's coming from China. Okay. Well, China is like, well, America likes to send around guns and likes to send around drugs, so we decided to show you that we can do the same thing, only to a level you never imagined. We're going to make sure that that stuff is showing up over on your shores basically free. Anybody and everybody who wants to get lit is basically going to be free. And what's the biggest issue facing the white supremacist today is how do you stop the fentinil opioid crisis? Maybe you stop it by quitting being white supremacists. Maybe you can start there. Maybe worth a try. So no, this is not natural selection. This is the white supremacist strategy throughout time around the world. Strangle you of all resources and the only thing they'll give you is anything and everything that will destroy you and undermine you. But other than that, oh no, we're not doing that. Not at all. making sure you don't have funding at the lowest level so they'll never have to worry about fighting you at the highest level if they kill the baby in its crib. That's the strategy. That's the mindset. That's the strategy and that's the mindset. And they're not joking about that. They mean that.

Let's go ahead and jump over here on Zoom. Let's see if we can get Blanco up here on Zoom. All right, Blanco. What's on your mind? >> Hey, what's up, Jason? Hey, my bad. My bad. Um, you're you're talking about a very, very important topic tonight. Um, I don't mean for for this to be like a history, you know, lesson or anything, but during reconstruction in the in South America, in Mexico, as you were touching on in 1860 to about the 1900s, the Spanish-American War was doing a whole lot more than just trying to get these territories. They were also pushing in or bringing in the European, Italians, the Portuguese, and the Spanish, some of the French, you know, whatever. And so they're coming in over here to Mexico, to Argentina, to Peru, and to all these other places that are on on the coast side where there was a large, in fact, a 60 more than 65% FBA and/or indigenous black Mexican or black Argentinian or black Paraguayan, you know, uh, population that was thriving, doing their own business, that was having a a like and I know you know about this and So they were doing more than just grabbing territory and like you're like you're saying they they they're trying to make sure that nobody can have any business. So when so we can't forget that Operation Paperclip is not just about German Nazis going to Argentina. The Spanish had, you know, their version of fascism and the Italians had their version of fascism. and they're going over to Argentina and pushing out the the black population over into the more western side of South America and Central America and Mexico to the point where they're you know to the point where in 1800 in 1880 around 1890 there was a in Spanish and and in English is basically the whitening. So it's they were trying to make all of South America be like like you're saying the the the white supremacist the the whitification of the Spanish and of these Spanish-sp speakaking countries and not and in in a sense they're erasing the black history of you know Brazil and >> well that's not in a sense I mean they are doing that it's not in a sense I mean that was the plan and the our whole point has been over the centuries they've just modified it and improved on it and refined it. It never went away. Is never there may be a new force leading the charge. So, okay, you might not have the Spanish here leading that anymore. You might not have the British here leading that anymore. Okay, no, it's been handed from one white faction to another. Whoever was the white faction that beat the others, he's the one who starts using it after that. What you don't have is a situation where they stop using it. Now, that's the real issue. They're like, "Oh, this works." And then it just becomes, okay, here's how we going to do it. But what you don't see is a situation where they stop doing that mess. And that's where we're at. what they're doing is, you know, to to land the plane. You know, I'm sure there's others on the line like they're what they're doing is, they're they're telling you to your face, you know, and and they're they're really trying to stick to the point that they really would rather go down with the sinking ship because having any kind of, you know, any kind of economy that's thriving with black communities anywhere around the world is supposedly a threat to them. So they'd rather go down with the sinking ship that's already on fire that's lit on on gasoline than to even have the even playing field with black people. So you know, >> right? I mean, look, as far as they're concerned, the real thing is a you can as black people, you can be relatively successful just so long as the base of your success is consumerist. Just so long as it's dominated. So as long as you are successful consumers and you can be high paid employees. So high paid employees and reasonably successful consumers as long as that's the highest level you ever achieve. Well, we'll work it out. That's good because what does that mean? You're not a threat. You take a look at the George Johnson, you take a look at the Matthew Nles and that kind of changes things. So, you flood the zone with hundreds of bumblehead, empty-headed athletes, and all they're going to do is try to improve their own personal position. But then again, you've curated those, too. So, you don't let through athletes who are trouble. Those guys get filtered out in high school and college. They never make it to the pros. The only thing that ever makes it to the pros are the brainwashed slaves. They're the only ones let in cuz he's not going to be a threat. So, everything is about filtering to make sure you don't get the resources to be a threat. And if you ever do get into a position where you could get resources, they make sure they filter it in brain type for only those who aren't going to be a threat. He just wants to get along with it. And long as you give him a Cadillac and some blondes, he'll be good. Thank you very much. Give us a call now. We appreciate that.

Something else I wanted to uh go ahead and get into here tonight as well. I wanted to touch on and cover something else here. Somebody in the chat room was talking about the Bay. Someone in the chat room here was talking about the Bay and I wanted to have an opportunity to touch on that because there was a story here from NBC Bay Area. Folks, I mean, I I try my best to let y'all know about these things early as I can. I try my best to discuss them as early as I can. I've been talking about this now literally for decades. Even though I'm not a resident in California, I've tried to keep my finger fir firmly on the pulse. For NBC Bay Area, I'll let them tell you what's going on. Well, we've seen it erode over the years. The black population is shrinking here in the Bay Area. The latest census results reveals it's at 6% in our region, down from 8% in the previous census. One non >> 10 years ago 8% now 6%. >> Yeah, right in line with our cold >> results reveals it's at 6% in our region, down from 8% in the previous census. One nonprofit is hoping to preserve the black culture and businesses. NBC's Marcus Washington has more. It's hard to be here, but we are here. >> Tanish Hollands has organized in her community for decades. The San Francisco native grew up in the Bay View and now lives in Solano County. >> I mean, the economic wealth gap. I don't live in San Francisco anymore because I can't afford to buy a home in San Francisco. >> In 2020, she co-founded SF Black Wall Street. This was during the pandemic to bring more visibility to blackowned BUSINESSES AND CULTURE. IN FEBRUARY 2025, SF Black Wall Street opened 1921 lounge in the Bay View. >> It's named after the original Black Wall Street neighborhood in Tulsa, Oklahoma that was destroyed by race riots. >> Our goal is to make it our first social enterprise for our organization so that we could raise our own capital. >> I think 192105. >> Well, that space was damaged in a fire last June and forced to shut down. Holland now working through the permit process to reopen. >> We're really going to be making sure that this space brings life back to Bay View. Our black population, no secret, had declined. We're the minority across the Bay Area and it's important for us to build visibility and to build connection across the Bay Area so that our culture and our businesses stay alive. >> Building connections means expanding the community network. SF Black Wall Street is now known as Bay Area Black Wall Street. >> I'm not giving up on my city. That's home base. But I recognize that in order for us to anchor our black communities, we have to go beyond San Francisco and anchor all of them. >> Right. >> Bay Area Black Wall Street will launch Friday at the newly renovated Fedora Lounge and Comedy Club in Cissoon City. >> I got a wrench. >> Tegger Miles, born in Oakland, is the owner. >> A black man did this. He did it without loans. He put in hard work. >> [music] >> But I brought something special and unique to this area that's not here. >> Fedora will be a part of the Bay Area Black Wall Street's growing network to build culture and community. >> I was raised between uh Hunter Point, Fillmore, and Lake View where you found the black people in San Francisco. I've been in Valo for the last 15 to 16 years and I'm a proud homeowner. >> Cassandra James, a Solano County Supervisor. When we're talking about black people in the Bay Area, Solano County has the most black residents per capita than any other county in the Bay Area. >> Census figures show the Bay Area's black population is at 6%. Solano County has the highest black population at 13%. Alama County 9%, San Francisco 5%. >> And our small business owners are the drivers, our economic drivers. Bay Area Black Wall Street wants blackowned small businesses like Urban Fusions in Vallejo and Fedora to be meeting places where its members can connect and celebrate but also organize and strategize its community needs. >> We can sit back and go with the narrative that people other people write for us or we can do it ourselves. >> Investment is important for significant change. It's also necessary for narratives to change. I feel like the black population is sometimes seen and not welcomed, not seen for the right reasons. And I think that's what needs to shift. It's something you need to invest in, embrace, and and really make that whole diversity thing that folks like to say, make it a real thing because black culture is a driving force. They're going to come >> with the Fedora Lounge providing physical space with the Bay Area Black Wall Street providing that intentionality, being able to sit in rooms together at physical spaces and having um the hard conversations. I think that's where we could start to shift some of the um some of the conversations. >> I can look at myself when I was younger. I didn't have access and I didn't know anybody that had access. I want to make sure I'm a conduit to Black Wall Street, to other entrepreneurs, to every kid in this community because this is just the beginning. I didn't have access. I didn't know anybody who had access. That is the strangulation. Just like I said with Rodwave, it's about making sure that you don't have it and that you don't even know anybody who knows anybody who has it. You've heard me talk about this before. White kids are one degree of separation from somebody with a million dollars. If you're black, you're five or six degrees of separation away. And it's usually going to have the whole goal is make sure it's a white person. So, white kids are only one degree away of separation from adequate funding. The whole goal is to make sure, dude, you might as well be on the other side of the world away from adequate funding. That's not natural. That's engineered. That's engineered.

Let's go ahead and jump back over here on Zoom again. We got Antoine here on Zoom. Antoine, what's on your mind? >> Hey, what's going on, Jason? Uh, man, you hit home about talking about Chicago, man. There's so much stuff I grew up that was at a point in time, dude. You didn't mess with any type of hair care, no hair care products if it didn't fit black. You didn't, you know, no Perch Plus or nothing like

That. We were only dealing with products that were like either with Johnson and Johnson or Revlon was a dirty word.

Yes. You didn't you didn't mess with nothing like that. And even also growing up, I mean, even when it came to landscaping, cutting grass. We had our own little candy houses and stuff like that that we sold candy back and forth from. Elephant peanuts coming off of 74th and State Street right off the 94th down. Man, that we couldn't just get them to keep to leave us alone. Then all of a sudden you start seeing this explosion of Arab little corner stores and stuff like that. You see these sharks out here in Chicago whereas you should see two, three Harold's Chicken just to suffice. I mean, hell, Garrett's Popcorn, you know, we we pretty, I mean, we are Chicago is like the pinnacle of innovation if they just leave us the hell alone. Uh, I could go up into the icy cups, the snow cones. Um, we had one stop, Moo and Oink, that used to be in our neighborhoods, the car washes, the the um, the cleaners. That was us, man. Uh, even when we played toys, hitting spins, flick clacks, you'll be playing with that stuff, making up this stuff off innovation. A couple of years later, we see it on TV.

Yeah. I mean, that's the whole goal. These things happen the same way. It never falls on its own. You are targeted. And then you look back later and find out all the forces that conspired to do so. So the whole goal is to target you both at the private level and especially the government level and appear that that's not what occurred. Well, you just kind of went under, oh, the money just wasn't there and it's the hidden hand. You're going back to look at what went wrong. And yeah, there might be some elements to it that you had a hand in, but it's like, ah, there's a little bit of some extra going on there that made sure to kick it out from under you because it's never just one. It it'd be one thing if it was just one or two of you, but it's like, okay, whole blocks and whole areas. All right, that's not natural. That that's not a business cycle.

And if I may add, brother, even just going expanding from that, you know how much construction is done up and down those expressways around where we live at.

Oh, yeah.

I'm in the trucking game. I mean, when you talking about dump and all that, you mean to tell me, man, you give me a little bit of bread, I can't sit over here and do have a dump company or anything like that. We got to see your zinger. We got to see all these different uh Irish companies that come through even in our own neighborhoods. Just give us a just give us the same percentage of our what our ethnic makeup is in our communities and a lot of that gentrification stuff we talking about will be dead. But that's not the goal.

I mean, look, I mean, and the national media has deliberately made a war on Chicago because Chicago, you know, for I mean, brother, you know this, I mean, they call it the Second City for a reason. Chicago is a major hub, not a minor. Chicago is a major transportation hub. It is specifically located where it is. It's very strategically located. And beyond just that, Chicago is a beautiful city. It really, really is. Um, I go up there and stuff. Best time to go to Chicago is in the summer. If you're a Southerner, y'all, best time to go to Chicago is in the summer. Stay away in the winter time. You ain't ready. There's nothing going to prepare you for winter in Chicago. New York is tame compared to Chicago. But Chicago is one of the most beautiful places in the world. If you can get up there, you know, by the lake downtown, spend a few dollars, go to the Trump Hotel, you can see everything straight down the street or go to Sheran, one or the other. But it's a beautiful, gorgeous place to be in. And that's a lot of that's propaganda. You know this because it's made to make Chicago look like it's all terrible and stuff. Meanwhile, they buying up everything, spinning up everything, billions of dollars in investment while sitting up here talking trash. So, it's got black folk thinking, "Oh, I wouldn't want to be in Chicago." And I'm like, "Dude, the white folk is up there grabbing everything ain't bolted down." You don't know. Literally, the only place that they're not doing it in mass is the Southside. So, that and that let you know right there. It's like, is that sounds like conquest and colonization. This is the only place right here that we don't have ethnic and social control of. So, let's talk down about it all the time and let's let's run it down so that when we want to go in and snatch it, everybody be like, "Well, I'm so glad they went snatched that right there. Them [ __ ] wasn't doing nothing but shooting and killing nobody. So, I'm so glad Trump went through there and went ahead and grabbed that." By the way, when's the last time you went to the Southside? I ain't never been, but I looked on TV and it, brother, I've been there. I tell you, I straight down H Hallstead. That's why I got to tell y'all, I ain't making it up, [ __ ] I ain't got to do that. Straight down H Hallstead. [ __ ] don't, for those of you who don't know, in Chicago, it's like uh in New York, H Hallstead is to Chicago what uh Amsterdam is to New York. So, it just runs straight down. You can start downtown and it goes straight down there. Or in LA, it's what Rose Crayons is to LA. Straight from the beach all the way through to Compton. So, Hallstead runs all the way down. So you can just take it all the way from downtown straight down. I've been there. Yeah, it's some poor places. It's some bombed out places. It's leveled. And then when you keep going, I think you end up in Riverside, but it's a bunch of low-level places like that. But I'm just like, okay, but a lot of that's empty. A lot of it's empty. And I'm like, I recognize what I'm seeing here. This is about strangling you. This is about strangling it. Everybody's gone. Everybody done died off. The kids didn't have it. We economically strangled it. And then you're going to come in and buy like you did in New York, come up and buy whole blocks. And then they're going to submit a plan to the city like they did for that Lincoln Yards. We're Oh, this is going cuz I know I'm talking a lot here, but y'all, you don't know what it's like to be in a major American city. Do you know how hard it is in a major American city to have a 100 acres to be able to build something on? Now, I'm from Louisiana. That's not nearly as hard to find here. But in a place like New York, Chicago, Atlanta, do you know how hard it is to find a 100 acres, you don't really have that unless you clear these [ __ ] out. So if we can run the value down, we can come grab. We'll wait about 30 years now. We can come grab a hundred acres, submit a plan to the city. Here's our $3 billion development. It'll be walkable and oh, outdoor mall and shopping and yepism. All you got to do is eminent domain the rest of them out. We'll take this first 100 acres and you eminent domain the rest of them out. And what do you know? Everything's great again. And the big problem is, brother, now you know this. If you in Chicago, Chicago is one of the most flamboyantly corrupt cities I've ever seen in my Chicago prides itself on its corruption. It is one of the most overt out. I'm from Louisiana and I'm telling you Chicago is one of the most flamboyant. It's probably the most flamboyantly corrupt city I've ever seen. I've never seen anything that was just so endemic at such a level. And you want to think it's hard for them to clear a bunch of folk out when they get ready to make that move? Not really.

And I just got one question for you, Jason, since I got you here. I mean, all that stuff they talk about on the about the Southside, but they found 188, they find $850 million to make an Obama library and put that dead smack in the epicenter.

Oh, yeah.

Where they say all this this crime is at.

Oh, yeah.

But then you go downtown, they put a curfew on the on the teenagers.

Now, remember the Obama library? Whatever the hell that's supposed to be.

Brother, that was chosen for a reason because they keep going at it. You know, I I when I did my uh documentary Gentrified about when they put the uh Whole Foods across the street from Candy King College, um.

I know that that didn't last. I understand that. What I'm saying is I told everybody, um, in case you didn't notice, that was your warning shot right there. You are officially in the crosshairs.

You It's no longer a joke. They're going to just keep hacking at you till they get it. They're letting you know we are here and we're just going to keep going till something sticks. Oh, well, this presidential library doesn't have to make a profit. All right, this will stick and next thing you know, okay, let's just keep slowly creeping and marching from there.

Yep.

And that's literally where you at?

Respectfully, brother, that's all I have for you, man. Proud of you doing this uh doing this broadcast.

Thank you very much for giving us a call tonight. Yeah, man. Like I say, Chicago is is a wonderful place. It really is. For anybody from the South, go up there and go kick it in the summertime. It's a great time to be going up there right now. As a matter of fact, Chicago has great food. By the way, uh, once again, Louisiana is an expert in that. But Chicago is one of them places where it's kind of surprising. Don't go downtown for goodness sake. What? Okay, don't do that. Stay away from that. But the black spots in Chicago, I can tell y'all that's a good because a lot of them came from the South. A lot of them came from the South. So if you the black food spots in Chicago is good to go. Just stay away from downtown. Don't don't don't fool with downtown. It's it's it's trash. But other than that, Chicago is an excellent place for food. It's not good. It's excellent. Especially the black spots. So I'm not even going to go start going to names and that, but it's a great place for that. But they want you to be biased against that. They want you to think down about that. So you be like, "Oo, in the last place I want to be is there." And then next thing you know, you gone. Okay. But the folk who are sitting up here propagandizing it, they sitting right there. They're not selling anything. They're not giving up anything. They ain't selling off their holdings. They're just telling you that you don't want to be there. So just remember that that's not accidental. This is not natural. This is about discouraging you so that they can go ahead and do that. No, they got a whole bunch of great stuff in Chicago, man. I mean, what why do you think they do Lollapalooza there? Why do you think they do that? I mean, they got the the the riverfront if you've never driven that. I've driven that many a moon. I've driven that a bunch of times all the way down to White Sox Stadium. I know they got a bunch of garbage. I need to really go and I'm actually going to have to go to Chicago and just go back around to all those places again because years ago I had the opportunity to go do that. I had another opportunity to go do it. I went to Chicago a couple of years ago, but I was really only able to get downtown. So, I I wasn't really able to stay as long as I wanted to and just go ahead and drive around. But, I really want to get out there, go back up the North Side. I know they're building that tower that was the hole in the ground for the longest time. Well, guess what? They, as I understand, they finally started on that because it was just a matter of time. Um, I really want to go down there to White Sox Stadium and go check out with that area because I know they've done a lot of development there. I want to check out what's happening at Lincoln Yards since they want to be New York so bad. I'd like to have an opportunity to go check that out and go see what that looks like and to see what they're doing there and and just let y'all know. I mean, they don't put billions of dollars of investment in it because it's a war zone. It's bombed out. They do that. They propagandize that for you and then they come in and spend billions and next thing you know they're going to be sitting there on that for the next four, 500 years, which is the plan. Hudson Yards is not a 50-year project. That's a 250-year project. Oh, I forgot to tell y'all about that. Uh, what I just said is actually not true. What? What I just said to you all is actually not true. That's actually not a true statement. Uh, these are actually going to be permanent things. Yeah, I said that they're going to be they got a timeline. Actually, they're not because the idea behind these things is that you can actually repair these buildings over time. Just look up the Ship of Theseus, people. The Ship of Theseus is a thought experiment, but it basically says if you have a wooden ship and you replace one wooden plank by another one over the years as they go bad, you know, do you still have the same ship anymore? Empire State Building, they that's already the idea that you can replace it in parts so that the skyscraper itself stays where it is and you can just replace it in parts. Now, I think that's really overstated to be totally honest. I don't think you can do that forever simply because of the foundation. So I don't think that's something you can do permanently. However, those buildings are and though those developments, you could keep them viable for three or four centuries easy. The Empire State Building is in no danger of going anywhere anytime soon. Chrysler Building, we can go down the list. So for the ones that have been built correctly, they're not going anywhere. They can replace beams. They can replace girders. They can replace trestles. They can replace facades. So, they can actually redo the inner cores on these buildings. So, if you're under the idea, well, eventually they'll rot and go away. Well, eventually it's probably like four or 500 years. So when they build a Hudson Yards or a Lincoln Yards, they intend for that to be there for a few centuries. I mean, with your great great great grandkids, they intend to that be there for a few centuries. I say your great great great great grandkids, but in reality, they're hoping they'll be long gone. But that's really what it's about. Oh yeah. And don't think that lowering the population of the city is going to lower the prices. No, the cities will get smaller in population and the prices will actually go up because the people in the city will be the folk they really want. And if there's a few folk with a bunch of money, that's going to elevate prices even more because people pay more for space than they do anything else. So if they have the opportunity, go take a look at your skyscrapers in New York. $80 million for a whole floor. $80 million for a whole floor. That's not an accident. You got 40 people living in one building and yet they're paying $80 million for just one floor. They don't want a room, they want a whole floor. Okay, let's go ahead and jump back over here on Zoom again. We got OGK Network here on Zoom. OGK, what's on your mind?

Hey Jason, how you doing? Um, I I I got um I just want to know, do you think that you'll ever do a sequel to Gentrified?

I don't know about sequels necessarily, but I do know that that subject matter uh is a lot more expansive. I've said that for years and years now. That that subject matter in particular is a lot more expansive. Housing, you know, and the situation with housing in America is a gigantic boondoggle. And that wasn't even what Gentrified was about, you know, but in but in retrospect, that is what it's about, you know, and specifically how it's used and weaponized against us. So, if I had my brothers, I would not want to do another documentary. If I really had my brothers and a time and ability, um I would want to do like a miniseries and it would be one city per uh one city per episode because really the dynamics are different in one place to another. The agenda is the same, but the dynamics in the Bay are different from the dynamics in Austin are different from the dynamics in Atlanta, DC, Charlotte, you know, New York. So, in reality, to do something like that justice, to be totally honest, I I would really want to be able to concentrate on individual cities instead of just giving one city a few minutes out of out of two hours because there's just a lot to flesh out there. So, it would really it would really require something like that in my opinion. If I were to try to do that again, if I wanted to follow up on that, I really think that would be the best direction to go.

Yeah. I mean, that that that sounds dope because I you know I used to be a commercial truck driver and I can tell you like cities are like they're like a DNA onto themselves. You know they all have their own structure, their own, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I remember when you were talking about LA, how you can't compare LA to Philly and everything and like people don't know like I've been driving a truck and I can say for instance, there's only two cities that I can say it even would mimic Los Angeles. That's Salt Lake City in Utah and maybe Phoenix in Arizona just structurally because you can see if you've been around you can see the you can see uh certain nuance about them that that binds them.

Right? But but also they're newer places too comparatively speaking compared to a Philadelphia or in New York. Uh, what's happening in Salt Lake City and Phoenix? those are more recent uh developments. So yeah, and plus where they are located. So because they're really just twins of each other geographically to be totally honest. So yeah, that's that's why they would bear similarities. When you're dealing with a Baltimore, everything on the East Coast from the colonial days, you know, they got hundreds of years behind them where these other folk are really just late 19th century or 20th century advents. Do you think that um because I I was I was looking at Jackson and what was going on with Jackson, Mississippi, and how their mayor is going through the situation now. He's been convicted and all that other stuff. Um I I look at something like Jackson, I say to myself, you know, at least the governor basically was honest when he pretty much said he was warring with his own capital city.

Yes. You get what I'm trying to say? He was honest like I'm warring with and my thing is is that you know that's happening in all these other states with these other cities. This it's just the fact that their governors are not they're not honest. You know what I'm saying? They're smiling in the faces but they're they're actively warring with these cities in the same in a it's just in a different fashion.

Oh, they're they're warring with the whole states. They're warring with the whole states in particular. Just take it from me as somebody who's from Louisiana. So, I'm glad you mentioned that because that segues I wanted to talk here. So, you've got Louisiana's governor Jeff Landry sitting up here posing with Nicki the Snitch Minaj. Damn. So, she looking real like a total agent now. So, at least she's wearing her colors openly. Um, the state of Louisiana is losing people at a more alarming rate than ever. Hurricane Katrina, I was here for it. And they were hoping that that would be the death knell then, but it wasn't. What has happened is that Louisiana's black population has grown and as the white supremacist establishment sees that their biggest fear is Louisiana becoming like Atlanta, that it's a place where black folk aren't strangled. So what they've done is begun the process of trying to strangle the whole economy with the idea as Lee Atwater said that whatever step you take, yeah, it's going to hurt some white folk, but it's going to disproportionately harm black people. And so the whole goal is to make Louisiana just so undesirable and so unlivable that black folk being lower on the pole will be forced out simply as a matter of survival. Which is by the way, if you read Malcolm X's autobiography, he talked about that then too. Mississippi has done the same thing. Now Mississippi has tipped its hand in case you weren't aware. Mississippi has tipped its hand because in Mississippi they've abolished the state income tax. Now, it's going to slowly phase out over the course of the next four years. So, by the time we get to 2030, 2031, I think it's 2030 though, the state income tax in Mississippi will be gone. So, basically, you'll have Texas, Mississippi, and Florida with no state income taxes. Now, if you've already got your money and stuff in Mississippi, you're good. If you're trying to make something, h that could cause problems. So, as Dr. Claude Anderson said, it's about locking down the wealth. Now, however, the desire though is there's going to be certain places that need to be strangled. Wherever the black folk are, we need to economically strangle those areas. However, we got to do to force the Negroes out. And strangling them economically, and I mean the word strangle, strangling them economically is the plan. Here in Shreveport, they're talking about turning Kings Highway into a two-lane street. It's currently four lanes and jam-packed with traffic. They're talking about turning to two lanes. Why would you try to do that in any modern city? Because the idea is that that will disproportionately hurt black folks. So that's the that's the idea that they have now is shrink the places, kill the populations off, drag them down, and hopefully it'll be the black folk who leave first. When you start making them majorly unpopular, majorly unworkable, strangle the economies, only the folk who already stole their money decades ago will have be able to afford to live there because you've killed everything else. And then once the black folk are no longer a majority or threatening to be that, then you selectively start bringing in development. But just make sure it's going forward. It won't benefit the Negroes anyway. And and that's what you see there. So Jackson, Mississippi is directly in the crosshairs of that.

All right. Well, that answers a lot of my questions. Thank you, Jason.

Thank you for giving us a call. Yeah, in Louisiana, same thing with Baton Rouge. Same thing with Baton Rouge. They declared war on Baton Rouge. They've been declared war on New Orleans. They declared war on Shreveport. So, uh, Monroe, Louisiana has been lesser. So, but then again, they got some white supremacists out there like Moon Grafon. Uh, but no, they they've targeted these areas. So, where you have a black population like that, oh yeah, they've targeted you in particular for strangulation. They've targeted you for lynching. We are going to economically lynch you. Make the place so economically downtrodden that your children, your children will have no choice but to leave. And then once your family has uprooted from there, now we're going to move back in and we're going to take over everything because the kids are all gone. Nobody's defending the property you had here. So now we snatch all of it and we're going to go ahead and redevelop our white supremacist enclave. So that's the process that you see at work in Mississippi and Louisiana and Alabama and Arkansas and Kentucky. Now, particularly in Louisiana and Mississippi, they're particularly egregious, but make no doubt about it, Louisiana has all the advantages that Florida does. And yet you see this crazy amount of so-called dysfunction. Why hasn't Louisiana just done what Florida did? Because there are too many black folk here who would benefit from it. So, as usual, they're trying to figure out a way how do we revitalize the place and make it prosperous, but leave the Negroes out of it? How do we block them out of it and keep them out of it? And it's like, well, you can't. Okay. Okay. Well, if we strangle this son of a gun, well, the Negroes might wither on the vine. And okay, then start strangling it. Okay, but it'll strangle you, too. Architect from the Matrix. There are levels of survival we're prepared to accept. As long as it disadvantages the white folk and the black folk, then go ahead and strangle it. And so, this is how you end up with these quote unquote perpetually poor states. these states that are poor generation after generation. Even though they're overflowing with natural resources, the places that were economically placed, they made you economic powerhouses during slavery. And yet during the modern era, you just can't get your act together. Well, no, that's not accidental. This is about strangling the economy and hopefully you strangle the black folk and then you'll see if you can go take their stuff afterward. So that's what it tends to be about. This is what you're up against. And I don't want to see anybody sitting up here reinforcing that garbage there. I just want y'all to understand it's not accidental. None of this is accidental. Preventing you from having funding is not accidental. Starving you of economics is not accidental. Keeping you from having that's not accidental. Killing the b kill killing the ba black economic funding baby in its crib. That is the goal. That you not have a dollar. You must constantly be in a state of poverty and and deprivation. That you talking about, man, if I can get to a million. They're like, [ __ ] if we have our way, you'll never make it to $100, much less a million. We're going to do everything we can to prevent that from occurring. We won't ever have to worry about you getting to a million. We're going to make sure you never get to a hundred. So recognize how important it is. They are not afraid that it's going to be a bunch of [ __ ] on 36in wheels. They're afraid that every negro has in the back of their mind that they should be a tycoon, that they should be in charge of something. And it's really about making sure you don't have enough money for that because let me tell you something. Even if you do go buy some rims or something, you're gonna have to get serious about getting things together. You can't eat rims. So, h you're going to have how you going to buy your next pair of them. Eventually, you're going to have to start innovating. You're going to have to start enterprising. They want to make sure you don't have enough to have wiggle room for that. Remember, the average white business and whatnot goes through two or three iterations before they become successful. for the ones that do become successful. It wasn't like they hit it out the park the first time. That's that's not the way that happens most of the time. Colonel Sanders, we can go down the list. There's some businesses that make it out the gate like that, but a lot of them don't. So, if we can make this as hard as hell, the law of averages dictates that you're going to have a lot more difficulty than everybody else here. Especially when we're giving everybody else resources and denying it to you. So they employ and implement everything that they can. I'm just saying this to you so that you do not get confused to yourself about what's happened there. They are worried that inside of all of you, you might not talk as gentile as a Jason Black does. You might not talk as academic or audit. You might not do that. Okay? But let me tell y'all right now. I have seen and met a whole bunch of black folk who don't talk anywhere nearly as articulately as me or as academic or whatever and they done run range. Shout out to TI. What [screaming] damn I've always said that. Shout out to TI. He doesn't talk anywhere as academic as me. Take a look at what he's done. Let that speak for itself. I've met a bunch of folk there. They're better at fixing on cars. They're better at building houses. They can do some stuff. I can just all I can do is just sit there and watch them. So, do not let somebody feed that into your head that, oh, they have to have a certain amount of academic uh excellence there to to prove that they could actually make that work. Cuz by the way, that's not a standard that you put on white folk. Ain't that right, Donald Trump? Damn. How many of y'all think Donald Trump's a damn genius? How about George W. Bush. So they succeeded because they're geniuses. They succeeded because they're geniuses. Okay. Yeah. When they get when you get around white folk, it's like you don't put that out there. You you'll believe that. I'm not dissing nobody. Have you all heard that? That chef, what's his name? Guy Ferrer. Does he sound like a a road scholar? Does Guy Ferrer sound like like he's Ivy League educated? How about Cake Boss Carlos Bakery? I've been there several times in Hoboken. I've been there several times. Uh, a ain't no ain't no Columbia school Ivy League educated scholars up in there and I've been there several times. I like their stuff. They got good get it from the bakery. Don't get it from the machines. If you can get to a bakery, that that's great. It's wonderful. There's not a bunch of Ivy League educated scholars up there and doctoral thesis students. that that's not that's not what's going on there. Hey yo, you got the donuts? I'm like, okay. I mean, that's what's going on. I'm like, okay, that's cool. And they're telling you that you have to be a bunch of damn scholars. They got you psyched out, wait a minute, this [ __ ] don't look like he can write a college thesis here. I don't know if you're good to I don't know if you're the right person to run this. And I'm I'm sitting over here. Damn me, Carlos Bakery. Like an episode of The Sopranos. I'm like, really? But you're telling your son that he has to be a scholar? Like, you might want to come up here to Carlos Bakery and check out what's going on. Go watch that documentary about they got some stories online right now about the Cheesecake Factory. Do yourself a favor, go check that out. And we can go down the list. Nobody talks to these other folk like that talking about you have to have oh, you're not academic enough or belittling them or discouraging them because they don't sound like a game show host, man. Damn all that. And that's coming from me. That's coming from me. There's plenty of us who present very well. Okay. Damn presentation. Let's talk about results. Matthew Nolles might not sound as academic as me. His track record speaks for its damn self. I I need to give what he got. Yeah, I would gladly give up being a bit less erudite and being a little more accomplished like him. Yeah, I would give it up in a heartbeat. Yeah, what did all that erudite get you, dude? Let me let me get some hustle over here. Let me do that. While you're trying to break your arm, patting yourself on the back about how you talk and talking about, well, if you ain't, oh, I'm not worried about I'm not sure about them. Okay, I'm sure about results. I'm sure about results. So, don't let folks up here and tell y'all that what you need to have is results. What you need to have uh is the ability to perform. You need to have accomplishments. Don't let them sit up here and tell you that you can't do it because of that. Your goal is to demonstrate that you can do it, not that you can do it their way. Now, that doesn't mean you can be a legend in your own damn mind. You don't get to sit here and talk about what you could have done. However, your job is to demonstrate that you can do it, not that you have to do it their way. Well, if you don't talk like this or this, that, and the other, as long as you can do it better than them, it doesn't matter how you talk. As a matter of fact, it doesn't even matter if you talk. Your accomplishments will talk for you. So don't let them sit up here and screw your head up and make you think that you got to do it their way. Their way might be one way, but no, you don't have to do all that. Somebody said Richard Williams, Serena Williams, Venus Williams daddy. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, there. That's what you need to be able to do. You need to be able to do that. Long as you got the results, you need to be able to do that. Don't let people put false qualifiers and false stipulations in your way as their justification for denying you. The only thing you have to do is be able to demonstrate that you can do it. George Johnson need to be able to demonstrate that he had a viable product. He doesn't have to sit up here and speak the king's English. He shows you he has a viable product. Now, under fair circumstances, maybe some folk might not see the vision. Okay, that's possible. Yeah, but we got a whole bunch of folk out here. It's like, yeah, you you you all haven't given us a justifiable reason why it is they got turned down. How the hell did that happen? So, just recognize what the game really is there. Recognize what the standard really is, not not some artificial one. And just know that strangling you, their goal is to make sure you never get a $100 together. Never get your credit score together. Somebody said, "What do we do about this, brothers and sisters?" What they talking about out there in the bay? It's going to be you and me and us and we you need to get together with one other person that you all are tired of struggling and tired of spinning your damn wheels and that you are both rock-ribbed and laser-focused on making change. Save your money up. Get your credit score together. Eat bologna and cheese sandwiches. You're gonna have to get that together on your own. I don't care how strong white supremacy is. If you are relentless, you are eventually going to beat them. Their goal is to see if they can break your spirit and break your soul. Your job is to show them that you are unbreakable. And if you can get together with another person, it doesn't have to be a female or a male. It's really about do you have one other person that the two of you can work together? The two of you are striving together. You doing your part, they're doing theirs. If you're really lucky, you can get three. Although that's rare. You do that right there. Right now, there's a bunch of y'all listening to me right now. You're sitting at home. You're laying in bed with somebody who ain't trying to go nowhere and do nothing. They face the same odds you did, and they are defeated. I I did the whole nice whole program to acknowledge I understand the game is rigged. I understand the white supremacists are rigged the game against us. I get that. My biggest advice to you is make sure you're not sleeping next to somebody who's already defeated. They've given up and they're just trying to figure out how do I coast and cruise and and and be the best consumer I can be? How can I be the best five-figure person that I can be? But the system like what Michael Jackson saying in the weird you can't win, you can't get even and you can't get out the game. Your job is there's a bunch of y'all right now, I know I'm making you feel some kind of way. You're self-conscious, but let's just keep it real. There's a bunch of you right now listening to me. You are in bed with or getting ready to get in bed with somebody who ain't going nowhere. They're not fighting. They're not building. And they're already defeated. Their credit score is going down instead of up. They always have an excuse for why their savings aren't going up. You're going to have to decide whether that's what you want your life to be. That you're comfortable sitting there with them wondering what could be as opposed to getting to somebody who's just as hungry as you are. They're just as hungry, just as committed. The two of you need to get together every week and compare notes. The most powerful thing you all can do is if you got somebody, y'all two need to get together every week and start looking at each other's bank accounts. What? You two need to get together every week and start looking at each other's bank account so that you check them. Don't trust them. Don't believe them. You both need to be ready to show each other that we are still both committed. Here's how much I got saved. Have you been keeping up your end of the bargain? You show your bank account, they show theirs. It's not at that point. You ain't got to worry about trust anymore. And if you got somebody who cannot or will not do that, it's time to find somebody else to be working with cuz that [ __ ] going to spend the rest of their life talking. So, get you somebody that every week you two get together and compare savings accounts, bank accounts, uh, credit scores that they're not coming back week after week with their lip poked out talking about what they haven't done. If you can't conquer your own bank account, if you can't conquer putting away $100 a week, I'd be a damn fool to think that you're going to help me overcome this white supremacist economic beast. You're not going to fix it overnight, but damn it, one step in front of the other gonna fix it. Matthew Nolles told you 20 years later, Destiny's Child was 20 years later. Maybe you don't have the same dollar that he had. Maybe it's not as strong. Maybe you can't go to work for Xerox. I understand that. But let me just say it right now to the fellas out there. You got a chick who's in real estate school or you're there or whatever. The real issue is not about that. The real issue is, is there a dream? Is there a vision? And is there some concrete effort? Or is there just a bunch of talk? Is there concrete effort? Is there just a bunch of talk? So y'all want to know the game plan? Start comparing notes every week. You got a person say they working with you, y'all should be able to compare bank accounts every week so you can track their progress. They can track yours. Everything is on the damn table. Check their credit score. They can check yours just to make sure everybody is still honest. And if they refuse to do that, time to find somebody else to be there with. And that's real talk. That's real talk. We're going to go ahead and wrap things up here tonight. Shout out here to Zebo the Outcast. Thank you very much for your support tonight. We appreciate that. [applause] Also to Walter, to Vincent Gars and everybody else here who has contributed to support tonight's program on PayPal, Super Chat, Venmo, Fear to None. Thank you very much here. If you are new here to the Black Channel, welcome to the haven of intelligent black thought. We do this every weekend, holidays, some days in between. So click that subscribe button, that notification button. Join us each and every time that we're here. 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