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Hello and welcome everyone. Today I'm talking about a good old tier list here with the civilizations we have right now for one versus one. Now, let's start with the left from the left to the right. We are starting with English.
Honestly, English right now it's not that bad. I would not put them into D tier. Right now, I think English is really in a fine C tier. I don't think they are like insanely broken or insanely bad. Um their age shield landmark got a little bit of buff that you can make villagers faster now. So, I think English is like a playable on some certain maps. Like maps that um opens you to rush your opponent very, very fast. Like, let's say cliffside, that's really good English map. Or any kind of map where your opponent is not really that far away. Or or if you are playing on a hybrid or water map, then English is is perfectly fine there. I don't think English is s- like crazily bad. They are like okay-ish, but um maybe in the future they going to look at the English and do something different with the civilization. Or maybe just fine because it's like one of the civilizations that's like the beginner easy civilization.
Next one. Uh French. I think French is not among the most broken civilizations that we have in Age of Empires. So, I'm not even saying like insanely broken, but French is really high up there. Now, I'm thinking if it's either A or S tier. Mhm. I think we can easily put uh French into S tier cuz they they beat a crazy amount of civilization that we have right now in Age of Empires 4. So, why is that? Well, the reason is why is that? Because they have cheap upgrades. Uh also Chamber of Commerce got a buff. So, Chamber of Commerce is really good against some civilization, but most of the time you're going to go with School of Cavalry. And you have faster villager production. You have feudal knights which are really strong, really really nice. So, they have they have the tools to be a really good and strong civilization. And over the tournaments as well, like French is winning a hell a lot. So, that's cool. Love it.
Next one is going to be HRE. HRE, I don't think the civilization is insanely bad. I think HRE balance is really on the middle. So, I don't think HRE is bad. HRE has been played a lot, won a lot of games as well. I think HRE has been balanced like like fine-tuned pretty well. There are multiple strengths with HRE. It's not that easy to play as a lowly player with HRE because you need to do a lot of prelate stuff. But, uh they're they're like on the middle. They are like on the 50% win rate. I think that's perfectly fine.
Next one is Abbasid. Abbasid the same thing. Abbasid just became better as well because every TC is cheaper. Uh I played some Abbasid games and they feel insanely cool to play with with the cheaper TC. So, I really advise people to try out some Abbasid game and well, they are like this boomy greedy style civilization. So, yeah. Abbasid is really fine.
The next one is Mongols. Now, it's not Mongol hate or anything like that. I played a lot of Mongols back in the day as well, but I feel like Mongol is completely ass right now. It's because Mangudai got fully butchered. Uh I have multiple games against Mongol in Jin Dynasty, but that says a lot, right? So, I think Mongol like really under the frog's ass, you know what I mean? So, it's like Mongol really does need something uh like a rework. Like like I I I'm just going to say that like Mongol really does need a rework. Because right now they I'm not sure what they are like cavalry civilization. Doesn't feel like that. Infantry civilization? Doesn't feel like that. Trade civilization? Doesn't feel like that. So, I don't know where Mongol is, but Mongol is kind of horrible.
China, as we usually know, um people are mentioning that China got tax nerfed, but actually it is not a tax nerf. So, I was testing a little bit when one of my viewer or two or three told me that they're actually getting more taxes now uh than before, and I was like, "Wait a minute. Is it actually true?" And it is actually true. You actually get more taxes than before. But I need to mention this. Why taxes were like really strong? Because you could just spam your villagers non-stop to get gold. So, the early taxes got nerfed. Yes, so early on the first 4 minutes or 5 minutes into the game, taxes got nerfed. But after 5 minutes in into the game, taxes are actually better than before. So, in the first 5 minutes of the game, the taxes are worse compared to what we had. But after 5 minutes, the taxes are actually stronger. So, pro players will struggle a little bit with the taxes in the first 5 minutes, but after the 5 minutes, it's actually stronger and better. And I have tested it. In the late game, you actually have more gold than minute than before. So, that's that says something.
Next civilization, Rus. I think Rus is not bad. They still have extra food gather rate. They still have hunting cabins generating gold. They got the Kremlin buff. They got the AB buff. So, they got a lot of buff. I think Rus is still good, and I think it's better than Ayyubids and Abbasids currently. And the AB buff and the Kremlin buff was really, really nice. Like, the Kremlin now also spawns hand cannonier. So, you don't have only militia, but you have hand cannonier militia as well, which is really nice. Um and also the militia summon got cheaper as well, and you get more militia when you reach age three or age four. You get You get like a strategy from Temu, which is nice.
Delhi. Many people really under estimate Delhi. Delhi is crazy good against so many civilization. It's insane. Delhi Delhi is still good. And also, they got tower victory buff as well, which makes all of their infantry even faster to shoot or melee fight. So, much faster hand cannonier, much faster crossbow archer, spearman, mangonel, which is really really good for Delhi having own blades on Man-at-Arms and just having more attack speed than before.
Malians Malians got a little bit of buff as well that all of your Farimba unit can be enlisted in each tree and it actually works really well. Um got a little bit of nerve as well cuz so far upgrade cost very much more compared to before. But they are still good. They are still strong, so I think actually Mali is stronger than Delhi. And their H4 is is even better because you can use all the enlisted units. So, you can have like you can literally have only enlisted units as your your full unit comp.
Then we have Ottoman. Ottoman is still one of the most banned civilization in tournaments, so I got I got to put it like as a top top civilization. Um I agree with that, by the way. And that Ottoman is insanely strong. It's still because of the Sipahi. I don't think it's because the military's good. I think it's because the Sipahi they are still crazy good. Like they are insanely good. Um Oh, what did I do?
Then we have Byzantine. I don't think Byzantine is S tier anymore. So, I was looking at the tournament games and etc. I think they are like a a really strong A, maybe an A+. Um Maybe an A+. Oh. Let's do a color in between. Uh Okay, that's weird. Let's stay like Okay. So, I think they are like an A plus, but uh they are like between of being really strong, but being A as well. So, they deserve their own tier, to be honest. But, Byzantine is still good. I'm not saying it's still good, but I don't think it's insanely broken. Um Longbows got nerfed into the four batch from five, which means um their age three landmark generate less resources if you pick Longbow. Every other um mercenary got buffed that they got cheaper, right? You can get more Longbow out from the first berry patch, but honestly, that doesn't matter cuz that we are just talking about the first berry patch and not the rest of the berry patch or rest of the game. But, like overall, Longbow got nerfed. Even though you can still get more Longbow out from your first berry patch, it still got nerfed cuz you need to think about the whole picture and not just about the four extra Longbow that you can make from your first berry patch.
Then, we have Japanese. I think Japanese is the same thing as the Byzantine. I don't think they are as broken as they were supposed to be. Uh many pro players are trying nonstop fast castle with them, and the problem is there are civilizations that are insanely good against fast castle. And that's why Japanese players are nonstop losing or lost a lot as well in the tournament, not because the civilization is bad, but because they learn one strat, and that one strat was not working cuz their opponent picked the civilization that's insanely good against fast castling. Um I give you a really good example. Golden Horde they destroys Japanese. Like, it's completely destroys. 5 months ago, 4 months ago, I was playing Golden Horde against Japanese. I was playing nonstop. I tried to pick the Golden Horde nonstop against Japanese and I and I have not dropped a single game against Japanese as Golden Horde. Now the thing is, I proved that Golden Horde is instantly good against Japanese and pro players are still picking uh Japanese into Golden Horde. Or they still did not learn from the mistake. That happens. Even though I proved that uh Golden Horde can beat Japanese like 5 months ago easily.
Next one, Ayubids. Uh Ayubids, I don't think they are insanely strong anymore. I think they are just a B tier civilization. I think they are better than Abbasid. That's for sure. But the nerf hit them crazy. Like the the uh Ayubid nerf hit crazy. They nerfed Manjanik and the Rishis as well. So, huge nerfs left and right and uh they struggle a lot just like Japan against uh fast castle. Maybe B tier is a little too low for them. Maybe just we're going to go to A tier cuz they can I think they can still destroy civilization like not even using hands. At least a strong A tier, let's say that.
Then we have Joan of Arc. Now, I have so many problems with Joan of Arc. It's really hard to like where to put this civilization. Not because I hate it, not because like uh I hate playing against it, but it's such a weird situation. It is a French, but slower villagers. Can make knights, but no discount like French. Discount on upgrades, but not no discount on research drop of building. So, there's so many things to consider when playing Joan of Arc. Um I think I got to put it into the C tier. I think it's stronger than English right now, but where is Joan of Arc rework? Where is Joan of Arc rework? We are waiting for Joan of Arc rework.
Golden um What is that? OOTD. I don't think OOTD is actually bad. Many players like claim that the OOTD is utterly trash, but I don't think so. I think if the pro players just give it a try or play more on land maps. By the way, this tier list is only for land map. Um if they just give more time and play with Golden Horde, they would be perfectly fine. Um not like D tier cuz everyone puts D tier, right? But in my eyes, Golden Horde is at least in the middle. It It's fine. It's fine.
Then we have Zushi. I think Zushi as well is a strong A plus. Before, I would put Zushi into C, but because of the landmark rework, Zushi is like at least as an A plus civilization. Um can handle many civilization very very well, but if you have longbow or anything that can just run away from the units of Zushi, then you are uh you are in a big trouble.
Then we have House of Lancaster. I think House of Lancaster at least an A plus tier civilization right now. They are insanely strong. That the the second TC got cheaper and the manner got cheaper as well. So, I would easily put them into A plus because like as I said, like both thing got cheaper. You can get a very very fast second TC. With the manner, you can rush castle like insanely fast and get the 20% discount on every upgrade. So, you don't need to build a wide tower. You can get the 20% discount. The 20% discount applies to every upgrade in the game. You want to upgrade your Spearman? 20% discount. You want to upgrade your economic upgrade? 20% discount. You want to upgrade your ships? 20% Everything has a 20% discount if you go with the colleague of uh uh King of Scotland King of Scotland colleague uh King college King something I don't know. The H3 Denmark. If you go with that, then you're going to get like a huge discount on everything. Which is nice. Not on the age up, though.
Then uh KT, I think KT is a solid I would not put them into S tier, but they are a solid A tier civilization, for sure. Um if someone else sounds like says differently, don't listen to them. They just don't know how to play KT. Like I'm not putting KT into A tier because I'm so biased towards KT because I play a lot of KT, but I have beaten so many players with KT. Uh I have beaten Vortex as well with KT uh when he played with Delhi. I have like beaten so many players with KT and still people doesn't spend the time to try to learn it and play with it. And they are putting the KT low on their tier list because they just don't want to learn the civilization. So, they are not putting KT because they played it and they feel like it's weak. They're just putting it because they don't want to spend the time to learn it.
And we have Golden Horde. Um I think Golden Horde right now, that every bug are fixed and even though they received so many nerfs, Golden Horde is one of the best civilization in the game. So, if you want to give give a try, try it. I think the other day I lost to like a conquer one or conquer two player who played Golden Horde. It was insane, dude. Golden Horde is insanely strong. Insanely strong.
Then we have Macedonia. Macedonia also I think it's a really strong civilization. Macedonia Dynasty was beating Japanese and Sengoku on the Homestead Cup. So, yeah. I think it's even better than French and China. I think it's as strong as Ottoman right now.
Then we have Sengoku. Sengoku has received many many nerfs. I think they are not in the S tier anymore. They are still strong. They are still good. They are still lovely, etc. But I don't think they are in S tier anymore. They're like all right, strong A+ tier civilization and that's perfectly fine.
Then we have two clock on land maps. I think two clock is at least a C tier civilization on land maps. They could be in C D. I'm not sure if it's C or D. I I played two clock and you guys know me. I'm playing like a hell of two clock. I think that's let's say they are like a C tier civilization currently. They can do many things, but at the same time while doing many things it's not really that great.
Then we have a Jin Dynasty. Now the funny thing, I don't think Jin is that horrible or I would never put Jin into the D tier. Because I think Jin is like not just like a gin tonic, but also it's uh a civilization that if players can learn it um then it's instantly strong. So, are you are you going to say that streamers are going to put it into D or C tier, but I going to start the trend with putting Jin into B tier. I've been managed to beat many, many players with Jin so far. I I beat it uh um like many, many 2K or 2.2K players with uh Jin Dynasty. It's a it's a greedy uh civilization. It's a very greedy civilization with early boom. I think the civilizations that can beat it with closed eyes are Mongols, uh Huns, Franks, Japanese, and like any civilization that can do some tower rush in the dark age, then Jin Dynasty is in a a big trouble, like a very, very big trouble. So, dark age rushing civilizations, I think they can easily beat it. I'm not sure. Uh I got dark age rushed by a 1,600 Elo player. Even though I did not lose that game, uh it was still scary. Because uh So, why did I not lose that game? Because he tried to tower rush me. I pulled all my mounted villagers. I killed the villager that tried to put the tower on me. And after that, he couldn't do anything cuz I had already a tower on my gold. So, it's kind of I'm not sure about it cuz I need to play against a pro player to give a better feedback. But, I think dark age uh rushing civilization will ruin Jin for sure. But, we will see.
So, yeah, that's my um tier list for one versus one uh ranked tournament or whatever. This is how I feel. So, this is how I see the game, how I think, how uh about the civilizations, which are strong, which are not, which need a little bit of work. Every player will have their um tier list differently cuz they how they feel, but I'm more open to civilization like not putting it like Genghis D tier, right? Uh because I have played it. I mean, I played Mongols and they are actually ass. Like I played a lot of Mongols recently as well. Uh all stream as well and in some custom games. And on hybrid or water maps, okay, they are fine, but on land maps I would not pick them Mongols as my main priority civilization if it's a tournament game. That's for sure.
All right, thank you so much for watching. See you guys next.