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It is, it is a supremacist religion in that way. I mean, they refer to themselves as chosen people, and, you know, Zionism is really about racializing Judaism. So, yeah, I mean, it is, that is a particularly malignant strain of what we're talking about. But no, it's, it's absolutely an arrogant religion.
>> We have special guest with us. Uh, Katon Weiss from the due dissonance is here. You know him, you love him. He's our favorite guest host. Hi, Katon. How are you?
>> Good. How are you guys doing? Good to see you.
>> Kaden. Hello.
>> Hello.
>> Um, so I wanted to bring on a Jew. Uh,
>> Yes. Be-
>> Because, uh, of the what I found in, we all found in the Epstein file.
>> The Jew. You want to bring in the Jew in the files?
>> Yes. You got to give, you got, you need the right Jew for this. I am the Jesse Lee Peterson of Jews. What is, can you tell me what, what is a woman?
>> All right, here we go. Uh,
>> So, you love God?
>> Do you love God?
>> Do you love God?
>> Do you love him?
>> Do you love God? I love how he just keeps asking the same question over and over.
>> Yeah, he's great. He's the best.
>> He's kind of Scientologies you.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, this is from Jeffrey Epstein to a guy named Roger Shank. And he says, Jeffrey Epstein says this: "This is the way the Jew make money and made a fortune in the past 10 years, selling short the shipping futures. Let the goyam deal in the real world from shipping news. The most dramatic growth has been in shipping futures, which allows shipping companies to lay off risks. The most popular futures are forward freight agre agreements to deliver goods in particular the route, some of the blah, blah, blah. They have grown in the past year to roughly the size of a physical market. According to Bill Lines of the Baltic Exchange and shipping in London, many of the industry have been suspicious of such futures because they've been averse to hedging their bets. Risk-taking is, after all, part of the game and averse to complicated financial instruments that they do not really understand." So he, and then, "Goyam were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world, only to serve the people of Israel."
>> Who wrote that? Ted Cruz?
>> That's, ah, that is a sphartic leader Rabbi Odia Ysef, spiritual leader of the Shaz party, said that in 2010. So here's a little bit, um, I mean, it's nice to have a purpose in life, but, you know, in me being Goyam, my purpose in life is to do all the hard work while another group reaps all the benefits. H, isn't that something? So here,
>> Talking about in the bedroom of my Jewish ex where I did all the work, like a-
>> Like a-
>> So this is from the Jewish telegraphic agency, established in 19, sphartic leader Yseph. "Non-Jews exist to serve Jews." So that, there it is. "Goyam were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world. Only to serve the people of Israel." He said during a public discussion of what kind of work non-Jews are allowed to perform on Shabbat. "Why are Gentiles needed? They will work. They will plow. They will reap. We will sit like an aphendi and eat," he said to some laughter. Yseph, the spiritual leader of the Sha's party and the former chief sphartic rabbi, ra-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra rabbi of Israel, also said that the lives of non-Jews are protected in order to prevent financial loss to Jews.
>> Beast.
>> So, um, what, uh-
>> Shout out to Yseph, by the way. Why? Why do I get the feeling that these guys not only didn't have anything to do with the building of the pyramids, uh, but they probably brought contractors in and didn't pay them at the end of the job? Why?
>> Yeah, I've long said Mexicans built the pyramids. Illegal.
>> Venezuelans.
>> Trenda, probably. So, just so Peter, this guy Petray says, "Just replace Goyam with unmention and it's impossible to distinguish Zionist ideology from Himmler's comments on the master Aryan race and the justified enslavement of all the subhumans. What kind of idiot says this comparison is illegal hate speech? All Zionists, whether ideological or transactional, and I am afraid to say also significant numbers of anti-ionists of the secular Jewish andor troskus kind." So they, so, um, so let me, what is it, Katon, can you, can you shed any light on this? Is this the way just Zionists think, or is there a certain sect inside Zionists that thinks this way? Is it why people refer to the Jews as "the Jews" this way? Because I, so the Jews I know don't, as far as I know, don't think this way. You and Russ don't think this way. Right?
>> Right. Well, there, there's, there's a, a spectrum. Like, in my experience, there's like a spectrum of it. So, you know, I grew up the Jewish half of my family, which is really the only half that I spent much time with since my mother is Maltese Catholic, but most of her extended family lives in Malta. I've not met most of them. So, when I would go to family events, it was always a bunch of New York Jews. I mean, that's, and, and we were kind of like liberal, secular Jews. We're not like serious practicing Jews, but it is a culture, uh, to a large extent. And, um, yeah, the way this language is used, there, there's, there's kind of a range. Like, there are certain words that we used to use casually without thinking much about. So, like, "schmuck" is an example of that. You know, schmuck, that's a, you know, Yiddish word. When I would think of, when I would, when we would refer to someone as a schmuck, it was kind of a term of endearment. We didn't mean they were like a bad person or that we hated them.
>> Like the n word?
>> Right? A schmuck.
>> But apparently there's like a range because, okay. So, the way we used to use-
>> There's a race of schmucks. Did you really?
>> No. No. No. I said the way we, I said there's a range. Not a race. No. A range. A range. There's a range of schmucks. So, like the way we used to use the word schmuck was like, for example, like my father and I were helping a relative move. This was years back, and, you know, he just, he packed the moving truck full of that he did not need at all. So, we're out there at the moving truck and we said, "Can you believe this schmuck packs a broken lamp to move? He didn't just throw it out." Right? We're not saying he's like a contemptable, despicable person. He's kind of an likable putts and, oh, you know, whatever, a doofus. Uh, but there were times like later in my life where I would be in conversation with people and I would refer to someone else. I would say, "Oh, yeah, that guy, he, he could be a real schmuck." And they're like, "Why do you say that?" You know, they'd be very serious. "Why would you call him a schmuck?" You know, like I, like, like I just called him a real slur or something. And then I explained what I meant by it. And then I looked it up and it turns out like, yeah, you can use it the way we always use it, kind of casually, as New York liberal secular Jews, as like a term of endearment, or you can use it to mean like a truly despicable person.
Now, Goyam was always the same way in terms of my understanding of it. It was a little more severe since with Goyam there is that sort of like, uh, racial or religious or tribal aspect, since goyam refers to non-Jews, whereas a Jew can be a schmuck or a gentile can be a schmuck, but goyam, you are not Jewish if you're goyam, uh, by definition. And so, you know, we would refer to the goyam, yeah, it, it is like a term of ridicule, but we never thought of it as like a particularly vicious or mean-spirited term. We would mean it as sort of a joke. Like one of the phrases we would say about non-Jews, we would say, "Okay, this guy has, has a goyisha cup." Goyisha cup meaning a gentile mind. Cup meaning, you know, head or brain. So, a guy with a goyisha cup, like if we were meeting people for dinner in New York City and they were not Jewish and they paid to park the car across the street from the restaurant, we would say, "Oh, look at this guy with the Goya cup paying $30 to park." Even if it was avarting, you know, he's got an inferior mind. Look at this goes a cup, paying to park. You know, he doesn't have the brains to do what we Jews do, which is drive around the city for 45 minutes, seething in anger, having a heart attack, and then parking 15 minutes from the restaurant and having to walk a half an hour in the, in the rain to get to the place. That's what a smart, that's what a savvy Jewish mind would think to do. And look at this goyish parking right across the street.
So, yeah, I mean, that is a little bit more tinged, right? Like, there, there is obviously a little more hostility there since it's like a tribal speak. But I didn't realize how offensive it was to non-Jews to call them Goyam until I started like interacting with people. Basically, until this whole, um, I should say, set of revelations, this whole, which is that, yeah, until this whole Mishosh came to light where it turns out we kind of are ruled by, you know, a cabal of illiterate Jewish pedophiles. And so I could see how, you know, it doesn't really hit, you know, it, it, it does kind of come off as nastier than intended. But yeah, like growing up, like we would use these words not really mindful of how they are received. Schmuck is the milder version of that. Goyam is the more severe version of that.
Like, what the first time it actually really occurred to me that something must be up with the word goyam, it must be more to the word goyam than I'm picking up on, it was there was an episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" where Larry David is trying to get accepted into this like waspy country club and Susie, Jeff's wife, says, "They're never going to let you in with that big Jew face of yours. They can see you coming a mile away." And Larry says, uh, Larry says, "Why you saying I have a Jew face?" He says, "Your face is much jewer than mine." He says, he says, he says, "My face is much more gentiley than yours." That's what he says. And that kind of like, I'm thinking, okay, there's now maybe there is something to the word that's offensive because Jews would not say that a Jew would say, "I have much more of a face than you." They wouldn't say, "I have a more gentiley face than you." If Jews were talking about that, they say, "No, I have a face." They wouldn't say they have a gentiley face. So that's when it first kind of occurred to me maybe gentile is more offensive. Uh, maybe is more offensive than a word like schmuck. Maybe that is received as a slur. And now, given the fact, you know, given that we are living, um, in, in a time that is so obviously dominated by Jewish supremacy, uh, yeah, I understand now why people could be, uh, you know, taking offense to the word goyam and certainly the way Jeffrey Epstein uses the word, the way it's used in these files.
>> Yeah, I mean, I could see people consolation to Gentiles. Um, these people worship Bal and they hate Jews just as much. It's like how Alistar Crowley didn't like Christians even though he's Christian growing up, right?
>> So that's why they're using it.
>> My Jehovah Witnesses, I would call both of you worldly. That's our outgroup word.
>> If I were a, a Mormon, I'd call you a Gentile.
>> Or if I was a nicer, non-racist Jew, I might call you a gentile. If I was a gypsy, I'd call you a god. If I, Everybody's got their out group word, so I never took offense to it. Mhm.
>> Until I realized, uh, maybe the idea that a race and a religion are the same thing might be the problem here, you know?
>> Right? Well, yeah.
>> Because you're reform, my best friend Big Jay, a godaughter, a godfather to his daughter, and he's Jewish and he don't like anybody being anti-semitic at him, but he don't, he's not a reform. You know what I mean? He doesn't do Shabbat candles or something.
>> Right?
>> Mind if he did. They, they've included because the Zionist included everybody a desperate sex of people who actually have kind of different beliefs depending on where they're from.
>> Right?
>> They made this myth that you all love Israel. It's all the same thing. Even though nothing could be further from the truth, and it's the history is as messed up as America's almost of Jew to Jew relations over there.
>> Right? Yeah. Yeah. No.
>> So, it's, it, it definitely is something that I became more aware of as I, as I got older, and not just as I got older, but as I got more politically conscious. Like, uh, well, one of my, one of my old friends from high school, he was like one of the OG, you know, 9/11 truthers. Um, which meant, you know, he always had a very strong critique of Israel. And I, when I would like jokingly refer to people as Goyam, uh, you know, on Facebook, I mean, this was back before I really did anything, you know, political outside just like talk on social media. Um, you know, he would, he would talk about how offensive that was, and I always just thought he was being a little dramatic because he was, in fairness, that was his nature. That was his nature. But I, I have come to realize how, yeah, that I, I, I understand totally how that is not received, uh, very well now.
>> So, but, but can you talk to the culture of them feeling above goyam, anybody who's a non-
>> Oh, yeah.
>> So, anybody who's not a Jew, they look down on, right? And, and it's-
>> Oh, 100%. No, I mean, look, it is, it is a supremacist religion in that way. I mean, they refer to themselves as chosen people, and, you know, Zionism is really about racializing Judaism. So, yeah, I mean, it is, that is a particularly malignant strain of what we're talking about. But no, it's, I, it's absolutely an arrogant religion. And as a, you know, um, you know, I, I can say this, I guess that's why I'm here. Um, it, it has, it has become a very toxic culture, I think, and I think that the last couple years have really revealed, uh, Jewish culture to be a very toxic one. And, you know, I say that as someone who kind of grew up in Jewish culture. I have a Jewish sense of humor. Uh, a lot of my favorite people, uh, you know, are, are Jews. But yeah, no, there, there is absolutely no question about it, uh, a culture of arrogance and supremacy. Uh, no doubt about that.
>> You think it has to do with maybe people being billionaires in something called a mega group?
>> And also the fact that there's a bunch of these rich people, so you're reformed. You don't care about it, right? The, the religion itself, but there's a bunch of people that like hate it and they're like, but they have a racial feeling they're better than people just for that. And they got some real twisted ideas. And I, I've met, I haven't been around Jews. You know, people haven't been around Jews. They, they, Jews are like a crypted to them. They have no idea.
>> They have like, but I just been around Jews my whole life and it's like another kind of guido at the end of the day, regular, you know.
>> So, you-
>> No, that, that's totally true. Like, I was, I worked as a tour guide in New York City for years, and, um, you know, I, I could always tell how my jokes were going to go down by looking at the crowd when they check in. I'm like, "All right, are these people, am I the first Jew these people have ever seen? If, if yes, then I'm going to probably just play it straight and not try too many jokes. If not, I'll go for some jokes." So, so you're, so, when you say it's a toxic culture, the Jewish culture, would you like, what percentage? Like, I wouldn't assume, I wouldn't think that you and say Russ are part of that culture, right? Or are you?
>> Um, well, I mean, I think we've definitely, I, I look, I think we have like innately absorbed a sort of gallows humor that is part of Jewish culture. I'm not saying there's nothing redeemable about Jewish culture.
>> Correct?
>> Um, but I think, you know, people like Russ and myself and Max and Aaron and Katie Halper, you know, all the people in this space, all the prominent anti-ionists Jews in this space, I think, uh, you know, I don't want to speak for any of them, but, um, you know, I, I would assume, uh, that, uh, you know, we are kind of taking stock of this in a way that we really hadn't before. I know I, I certainly am. Like, I, I, I would really not, I wouldn't really, um, uh, minimize like the, you know, words like goyam the way I do anymore. And we were, Russ and I were talking about this on the show yesterday about how, you know, one of the, one of the things, I mean, Russ, you know, referred to this, he says, "You know, one of, one of the really tough things about the past couple years is that it, it has sort of made Jewish culture kind of toxic." Uh, because, you know, a lot of, a lot of Jewish humor is humor of self-deprecation. And this is why we always said Zionists aren't funny because Zionist Jews, you know, view vulnerability as weakness. To me, like, you can't be funny unless you're vulnerable. You, you can't be funny unless you're willing to make fun of yourself.
>> And so you have to have a certain vulnerability about you in order to be funny. And Zionism views vulnerability as weakness and weakness as sin, right? And so they can never make themselves vulnerable, which means they can never be funny. And, and so, you know, I, I don't think like that part of Jewish culture, uh, has, has gone away. But yeah, I mean, I would say that there, there has always been a certain arrogance embedded in it, uh, that kind of does remain.
>> Uh, I'm going to, uh, play this from, uh, Candace Owens show. I think this was from Tuesday. Let's, and I just want to get your reaction to it because she's reading a book that kind of talks about, so I didn't know anything about, you know, Kurt talks about how they, these people worship Bal. I don't even know what that is.
>> There's a, a woman pretending, who, who I believe her actually, but she claims to be Epstein's niece, who's been talking about them. Said they worship Bal or Bahal. And, um, then these files come out. He's got a bank account labeled Bahal.
>> Uh-huh. And what is Bal? What is that?
>> It means, well, they'll tell you it means Lord, but it means master, I would say, more accurately. And in the Bible, that's who the Israelites are always told to like kill these Bal worshippers. And you'll hear people that say the Bible's bad for this because of genocide. You know, they called Amalecch, they called those kids Amalecch, uh, BB and them, which pretty despicable. The Amalachites were disgusting. They, they should go. They were all pedophiles, actually. And this, and so this religion is sacrificing your kid for material gain. And understand that the, the Israelites were captive. I don't know, before the second temple, they're captive in Babylon. So that's where we get the Babylonian Talmud and Cabala and all that. That's the mysticism. So I don't think it's that arrogant because I was in a religion where we were right, and, and I'm like, why would you be in the thing if you're not the people that are right? Why would you be even bother to be in it? So, so everybody has that. But the ones that are esoteric and mystical, that's the ones that are, are steering the ship. And so my friends that I've grown up with, who are just like anybody else I know, who don't really want this label laid on them for stuff that like people that are into dark are doing. And that's what the, when you meet people that are bad, they take advantage of it. You, you've watched people use their ethnicity as an excuse in every goddamn race there is for all of history. And so like the original, that's why woke died on October 7th, because that's when, you know, Sarah Silverperson had to be like, "Oh, BLM did say they support Hamas up front." They were kind of honest about that. Like, they just didn't listen. They were arrogant. It's like that Vermont liberal that doesn't remember Zionists were not, they were atheists. There's a lot of like socialists and in there. They're not people that were, uh, right-wing at all. They used to have a left wing that I guess is strong in Israel, but now it's all these lood terrorists. So, these are gangsters. And much the way Tony Soprano, I would say, is not a good Catholic. I would say these are not good Jews. They're not following Torah. I could tell you that they're following Babylonian Talmood, which is a little darker and more incestuous and racial.
>> Sure. No, absolutely. But like I said, like there are like gradations of it. Like a story that Russ has told before, and I'm probably not remembering all the details exactly right, but he talks about when, you know, this was decades ago, you know, uh, at a bar and there's, you know, a bar fight breaks out and he sort of intervenes to break it up, which was kind of dangerous. Like, you could get hurt trying to get in the middle of a bar fight. And so he tells this to, you know, a family member of his, an old Jewish guy, and the guy says, "Why would you get involved in that? Let the goyam fight. Why would you get involved in that?" You know,
>> training day. It's like training day.
>> Right? Well, there, there's a certain superiority about that. Like, even if that guy, like, I don't necessarily believe that guy, like, based on that story, that could be a Zionist or an anti-Zionist Jew. Like, that is an attitude that I could totally imagine an old Jewish person having. Yeah. Drinking and fighting, that's for the goyam. We don't do that. We're more civilized than that. We're more mature than that. We're smarter than that. That, that is, that is an arrogance that is pervasive throughout the culture, I think, in, in ways that are kind of different from the way that like many groups have. Like, yeah, like you said, Kurt, like, yeah, every, every religious group, almost by definition, has some sort of superiority complex, right? Otherwise, they wouldn't be a part of the group, right? Like, they think they're going to heaven and everybody else is going to hell. So, you, it, I mean, of course, like, embedded in that is some sort of feeling of superiority in some way. But this is particular strain of it that, that does kind of come through in a lot of what we're seeing in, in these file leaks. I think that's a, that's a totally fair interpretation that is not anti-semitic to notice that.
>> It's like political Islam. All the political religions are polluted that way, and they always are involved in mass killing, and then they're going to tell you you're a bad version of whatever you are because you don't, you, you have some kind of morals about it.
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