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Lindon. >> Yeah. >> Um when we were having some conversations at his home, he told and what I'm about to tell you is very relevant to to all of this in in a very like gravely political way. >> Yeah. >> He said that he was confronted at a diner that he eats at regularly by three men. And it's funny, these stories often involve three men. Encounter with three men. Mhm. Three men who purported to be from this Nordic civilization. And he said that there are rebels among them. >> Mhm. >> Who consider the society that they come from to be an oppressive totalitarian hierarchy. And he said that there's something like the underground railroad like like you know that um trans that facilitated the liberation of black slaves from the south and to the north during the civil war >> that there's a system that they compared to the underground railroad >> to facilitate uh these Nordic rebels taking refuge in America in particular. >> Mhm. so that their children and grandchildren could enjoy the liberties of our society and escape their oppressive totalitarian system. And he said in particular, a lot of them live in the Colorado Rockies in small towns in the Colorado Rockies. >> He said this. >> Yeah. >> Really? >> He said these men told him this. >> Really? >> Yeah. Listen to the rest of So he So he said they they live in like small towns in the Rockies and they they pass because they're they look like tall Scandinavian people. >> Mhm. I imagine a lot of their kids are on the basketball team. Mhm. >> And so he said, "Look, we know that Kit Green at the CIA has some program to access the 23 andMe and like whatever ancestry.com databases through some backdoor and that they are screening the entire whoever signs up for these services for a specific genetic variance from the normal Homo sapiens population, which the CIA knows supposed to be the genetic marker of these Nordics. >> And they said, "Look, our our children, especially our grandchildren, have no idea where they're from. We tell them stories about how like their grandparents are from Sweden or whatever, and they don't know, you know, we just want them to have lives of peace and liberty here in America. Uh, but the CIA wants to hunt them down. And would you and this was why they met with Lynn. They said would you please go back to these people and tell them we are not trying to take over your government. We just want to live here in peace and to please leave our children alone. Okay. So this is a story that he told me and um and what I said to him was look if these people next time and it was very interesting. He said two of them sat down with him and one of them stood next to the diner booth as if like he was not just on the lookout but as if he was like creating some kind of a shield around the conversation. And so I said to Lynn, uh, if these people come back next time, could you please tell them that instead of, you know, selfishly seeking a life of peace and comfort and liberties for their children, they should help us to carry out some kind of a coup against this fascist deep state that we have in this country. Because if they don't help us do that, soon these liberties that they came here for aren't going to exist anymore and they're going to be living back under the system that they escaped from. So, you know, they should get in touch and there should be some kind of a coordination to, you know, work on the American deep state together so that, you know, this kind of a system that they want to to want to benefit from continues to exist. >> How's that effort going? >> Uh, crickets. >> Uh-huh. Interesting. Well, I've I anecdotally I've heard some very interesting and weird stories around Nordic looking people in the Rockies. So, >> I have too. I have too from other people like >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's interesting. >> Mhm. >> Um, so do you think that this like Okay, so let's just We're in crazy territory right now, but do you think, you know, if if these Atlantean survivors are camped out in Antarctica now, what do you think they want with mankind? Do you think that there was any relationship between them and the Nazis? >> 100%. >> And so were they trying to sort of imminentize the escaton kind of the Eric Voglin like you know they were trying to bring about some sort of apocalypse or like what do they want? Like why would they? I mean you would assume they're kind of nefarious if they are partnering with the Nazis. Um or are they good or is it like way more complicated than that and good and bad are just like human constructs that we're trying to apply to a a paradigm we don't understand? What do you think their intent is? >> It's an arubos. >> What is that? >> It's the snake that's biting its own tail. That alchemical symbol of the snake that's biting its own own tail. >> The biggest problem, and I saw this in some of the comments, you know, in response to our first conversation, the biggest problem that people have with with wrapping their minds around this is the element of time. >> If we're dealing with a timetraveling civilization, >> Mhm. It means they have a hyperdimensional relationship to human history. >> Okay. So if you I mean all these people have these weird taxonomies of 43 different alien species and 10 different kinds of Nordics and the tall whites and Charles Hall talks about the tall whites and he talks about the Norwegians with 23 teeth. Yeah. Okay. >> That was the most insane interview I've ever done. I don't know what to make of it. >> Here's the problem. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Just let's look at it on a conceptual level. >> Yeah. Leave out the aliens for a minute. Just let's look at time travel on a conceptual level. If you have this scientific breakthrough >> to where you can engineer time machines >> Mhm. >> from that moment forward at any point in the future, you could travel to any point in the past, >> right? So if some group of Nordics, whether it's literally the Nazis, >> or whether it's a group of people with a Nordic phenotype, >> at some other point in history, maybe an Atlantis, >> maybe 100 years into the future, some group of people with a Nordic phenotype cracks time travel. That means that there are Nordics 10,000 years in our past coming from a hundred years in our future. Mhm. >> It means there are Nordics a 100 years in our past coming from 10,000 years in our future. >> It means there are Nordics walking around here today that come from a million years into the future presuming they're able to survive for that long. Right? So the differences in physioamy that we see between let's say whatever the tall whites or let's say the Nordics who could pass for Swedes may simply be differences in evolutionary biology having to do with very long stretches of time >> that we're seeing different phases of the same civilization. Now that civilization may also have fractured >> like like Azimov's foundation right you know where humanity's expanded into the cosmos and you know colonized thousands of planets and so the civilization may have bifurcated or triurcated or whatever okay and we may be seeing different uh phases in its evolutionary biological development >> but they may all have had the same origin in the same culture that >> uh breakaway culture of Brooks Kula uh breakaway culture that first cracked time travel. That's something that I think people have a hard time you know wrapping their minds around and will help to make sense out of a lot of the insane cases that we we see like I'll give you one example Ryan case of Reinhold Schmidt. >> Mhm. >> Okay. He was this American uh from where was he was it can't remember it was one of the states like the Dakotas or I can't remember anyway not a highly populated area guy from the country >> and Reinhold Schmidt was I want to say Nebraska anyway he this case is from 1957 and he's out driving and his car dies And there are two other uh cars and a tractor that are also taken out by the EMP of this UFO. So there were multiple witnesses and these people independently reported >> the incident to the police. >> But Reinhold Schmidt is is the guy who they engage the people who come out of this saucer and they bring him aboard. He says he was engaged by two men. Then when he was brought into the saucer, there were another there was another man and two women. Also, >> the ship was from the outside a complete solid uh piece of aluminum or highly polished steel. On a upon entering the ship is entirely different. It is transparent. You could look up, see the sky, look down, see the grass below you or see the entire countryside. How many people were in the machine? >> Uh there were six people. Four men and two ladies. Did they look like us? Uh, yes. They looked uh if they would see them on the street, you couldn't detect them unless you would had seen them on a ship. Did they tell Did they tell you what they were doing here? Uh, no, they did not. I asked them what they were doing here or what kind of a ship it was. They said they couldn't tell me that at this time. >> And he says they didn't know Ryan Holt Schmidt. They didn't know I had German ancestry and I spoke German. This guy learned German at university. So, not only did he know some German from being of German ancestry, at that time like a quarter of America's population were of German ancestry. Uh, but he also had studied German at university. So, this is what he claims. He says, "I realized these guys were speaking in high German to each other, >> which the SS used to use >> as a mark of distinction. >> And he said they they asked him whether he knew anything about the American satellite program. And he said, "I don't know. I would I know anything about the American satellite program. And then he said they went on to predict a number of failures that the US satellite program would have in those early days when we were competing with the Soviets, Sputnik and so forth and then they dropped him off and he went about his business. >> Isn't there some other example of this with Betty and Barney Hill? Famous abduction case in 1961. This interracial couple, you know, it's kind of the archetypal abduction case. Uh wasn't there some sort of Nazi connection there? >> Yes. And see, this is one of those cases which has been warped by people where like people have like they've they've uh embellished the folklore and reworked it into where these were like monstrous aliens. But I believe that what you're referring to is that if you look back at Barney Hill's original statements and when they first asked him what did they look like, he said, "Well, they look like Nazis." >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Well, they look like Nazis. >> You saw him through this window. They said there were a window. did was a row of windows. Just a huge row of windows only divided by uh strats or structures that prevented it from being one solid window. Or then it would have been one solid window. and the evil face on the he looks like a German Nazi Nazi. >> He is not. >> Did he have on a uniform? >> Yes. >> How many other abductions are like that where they say they look like Nazis? Um I haven't seen that many. >> Okay. >> But the important thing is that there are such cases. Oh, I'll tell you something else interesting in that regard. So um one of the comments in response to our first uh conversation was from the daughter of Desmond Leslie. >> Who's that? >> She commented to me on on my ex. So George Adamsky >> Yeah. >> co-authored his first book, The Flying Saucers of Landed with this guy Desmond Leslie. He was like a not a ghost writer but like a collab collaborative author, right? >> Who would help people write books and she reached out saying that she's the daughter of Desmond Lesie and she said in our family >> Mhm. >> we her father said always said that it was Nazis who contacted Adamsky >> really >> and they were pretending to be Venusians and that Yeah. that that so he helped Adamsky write this book where Adamsky claims these people are Venusians and they claimed they were Venusians or some of them come from Mars and whatever. He said that we always knew it was Nazis who are pretending to be Venusians. They had like a you know disguised themselves and created a theatrical psychological operation >> to present themselves as if they were extraterrestrials. >> This is so bizarre. There are a couple other interesting stories. One is, you know, Paul Melon was one of the founders of a CIA. There's a story that he told his grandson, this guy who's still alive today is John Warner IV. >> Yes. And um I guess he's having some martinis with Paul Melon. And you know, in his third martini, Paul Melon says, "In 1944, I was in modernday, you know, uh Czech Republic, and I was or was Czech Republic or Czechoslovaki?" Chatwalki. Okay. Czech. and and and uh in his third in the course of his third martini, he says that in 1944, I was in modernday Czechoslovakia and I was there with Allan Dulles. They were on some tech retrieval mission and they were standing on top of a flying saucer. >> And my grandfather said, "Look, you know, we we were in a facility, a hanger, and we saw, you know, a German flying disc." And I said, you know, "Oh, is that the one that was cobbled together with six BMW jet engines?" and he laughed and he said no. >> And so that's a really interesting fact as well. And then um Harold Malgrren bringing it back to the top said that the magenta craft was actually exfiltrated from Italy via the Nazi rat lines which people like Reinhard Galen were helping to kind of orchestrate and it was by the Knights of Malta. And Reinhard Galen was part of this Monte Carlo group which was this kind of elite of the elite uh Knights of Malta faction uh which is fascinating and and this faction comprised both Nazis people like Reinhard Galen and Jews like Henry Kissinger. >> Yep. >> So >> that's right and Otto Scorzani is working with the Mossad in the early 1970s >> and Scorzani was also part of this Knights of Malta faction. >> Yeah. I was invited by the way to join the Knights of Malta at one point. >> Why do you think you were invited? because you started to to brush up against their >> Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I I declined. >> Why did you decline? >> First of all, I was being invited to participate in some kind of initiation ritual in Malta. >> Uhhuh. >> And I happened to know that the the fellow who invited me had a track record of recording people involved in sex acts and using it as blackmail material and so forth. Okay. >> So, I was not about to go to mort. And besides, by the way, it's just that kind of thing. Okay? >> And he was a member of a dozen different secret societies, this guy at a high level, including the Knights of Molto. >> I would never join any such organization. Just for the record, >> Masons tried to get me at one point high level. Masons wanted to bring me in. I will never join any such organization because at the moment you do that, you lose your independence. Mhm. So anyway, but um absolutely this stuff I've heard the same stuff about uh Dulles and the you know witnessing the saucer and checks and so on and so forth. >> Yeah. >> The interesting thing about Alan Dulles which I think we briefly did touch on in our first conversation is that although it might have been actually when we were on the phone Allan Dulles and his brother John Foster Dulles >> Yeah. >> funded the rise of the Nazis. >> Yeah. together with uh JP Morgan Chase and Rockefeller from out of New York. >> Yeah. So did Prescott Bush. >> Oh yeah. And so look, the point is this that in a lot of ways both paperclip and the absorption of the Galen network were a homecoming. It's almost as if Nazi Germany was set up as a field laboratory to do some highly unethical things. >> Mhm. >> Which would then be harvested back to America. So is your and then is your world model or mental model something like there's like an elite strata and these are the names we're throwing out now um you know of people who come from some of whom come from these older families some of whom are just like you know the kind of elite ruling class of the United States >> uh that might be coordinated with either incidentally or deliberately with this sort of nonhuman faction or or not even non-human faction You don't like that word, this sort of Nordic overlord. >> Yes. >> Yeah. But it's it's even um more of a tangled web than that. You see, because of the time element I was talking about, >> it could be that some of these elites have had contact with these Nordics for a long time. >> Mhm. >> But there's another possibility, too. M >> it's a possibility which you know I speculatively investigate in closer encounters >> and that's that these elites become the Nordics >> that if you look at how obsessed these people were with eugenics I lay it out in closer encounters at length how many of these elites in America in Britain in Germany but people think that like somehow the Nazis came up with eugenics. No, they were playing catch-up. The Nazi leadership was saying like these Americans are going to dominate the world with all their eugenics programs. We better like catch up fast. >> The world leader in eugenics from the 1890s until the 1930s was the United States of America. >> Yeah. Well, then they got it from people like Ceil Roads and you know a lot of you know 19th centur phronology and that sort of thing. >> Yes. But when you look back at that era all the top scientists, the top political decision makers, federal judges and certainly the aristocrats were ardently pro eugenics. Yeah. >> Okay. Even like Margaret Sanger and people who you think did these days are associated with the left and like Planned Parenthood and all that they were ardent eugenicists. >> Now if you combined eugenics >> the in other words the will to create a master race >> together with oultism >> right early psychical research and cultivation of oult abilities >> together with exotic propulsion technology. It converges on what the Nordics become. >> So for all we know, I said Uroberos earlier, right? What's happening is that a future state of a certain culture is contacting itself in the past and reinforcing itself in the past and >> trying to pull the timeline towards itself or something. >> Actualize itself, transmporily actualize itself. >> Yes. >> It's very interesting. And so do you think there would be competing factions like the Nordics would be fighting against other possible timeline variants that want to actualize themselves? >> I think that's who the Ashuras are. So, you know, we have throughout all of human mythology >> this this uh account of rebels, rebel gods or rebel angels >> who break with the program, right? And the Sanskrit texts call them the Ashuras. The Greeks call them the Titans. And but they're in every mythology of the planet. It's always this rebel faction that exists that's trying to break free from the control system. >> So, yes, I think so. And you know, I think Lynn's story >> is another corroboration of that that there's people who don't like the program and they don't like the society they're from. But is I don't know this idea that the Nordics or whatever are this homogeneous sort of, you know, one world authoritarian, you know, government, you know, these these sort of perfect people who've been eugenicized to no end, and then they're fighting this sort of rebel angel faction. Doesn't that feel too clean? Like what if there are factions of the Nordics that are good or whatever? Yeah. I I I just don't know, you know?