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[Music] It's God. It's God. It's God. The Is >> that his angels are responsible for his welfare and wellbeing? Give me the verse. And where did he say he'll take that form? >> Say the devil right here. >> Where does he say the devil tormented him? >> This dude right here in the verse where it says the devil tormented him and beat him. >> I've been watching you. Your sanity is doubtful. So let me talk to you. He's running. I'm here in front of you where the devil needs everybody. We need some space here. All right. >> So everybody create some room. >> Look, just one second, my brother. We try to set this up. So guys, we need the space so that our debaters can debate with room and you guys can see things and the camera can catch everything. Okay, so you guys are good. Can you guys all hear me? >> Let me hear you say Jesus is God if you can hear me. >> All right, cool. All right, that's good. So >> we need a mic. >> So we're all good here. >> IRL. >> Yeah, we got. He said, "Yo, do we need help?" >> Oh, hey. Well, well, well. Radar Apologetics in the building, y'all. Yes, sir. >> Yeah. So, this is the IRL. So, the live stream here's this mic. >> What's up, live stream? Thanks so much for tuning in. >> Great. Apologetic. >> Yeah, we're good. >> Okay. So, now >> what up, secretary? >> All right. So, did he get the verse? >> Me and Yeah, we done. >> You guys are done. going to do. God lo >> what we're going to do now is talk about what is most important. >> Yeah. The Islamic dilemma. >> No. Muhammad is a true prophet and Sadik is going to prove it for us. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. So if anyone can tell us the first thing he's not a true prophet. Listen, how you see, listen, I want you to look around you. I am the only Muslim here. >> That's right. >> For him, y'all. He's the only Muslim. >> He is very brave. Listen to me. >> I'm this rice and bean eating Muslim that keeps it real for you. Heard. Okay. So, I'm here in defense and doing the best I can in odds that won't allow me in reality to express myself. So therefore, let's do this. The crux of the matter is this and one only. >> Christianity is based on his >> Hey, he said Christianity is based. Hey, make sure you clip that. Clip it. He didn't say nothing else. >> Live converted live new top DA leader gets converts to Christianity. >> You see this? You see this is what I mean. What, what is this intended to do? This is intended to divert, to divert what the points that I'm going to bring up and what I want to talk about because that is why Christianity focuses completely and totally on apologetics against Islam to keep the pressure off the Bible and keep pressure off Christianity because Christianity cannot be defended. >> No, notice this though. Just I want to respond to that because he, he said that that Christianity focuses on apologetics, meaning arguments against Islam. But last time I checked, does the Bible mention Islam? Yo, >> do, do you know that the Quran talks about us more than it talks about Muhammad? >> That's crazy, isn't it? >> So, it looks like Islam is actually apologetics against us. We even think about y'all. Can I talk about us first? Your guide and your prophet way before we ever heard of your father. Don't mind when we respond. Your book calls us the worst of creatures. >> Do we get to respond? Your book says that our religion is false. Do we get to respond? They want this world where they get to blast us, call for violence against us, even kill us, and we just have to sit here like good dhimmi and take it all. Too bad, Sadique. We are not, have never been, and never will be your dhimmi. >> Boom. Boom. >> First of all, if you want to talk about dhimmi, the action of dhimmi actually occurred in the Bible. It begins in the Bible in what you call tributaries in the Bible. Where in fact, in the book of Deuteronomy, it talks about tributaries where you are to fight. In book of Deuteronomy where you ought to fight people that are far off, not a threat from you, not a threat, and subject them. If they do not subject and allow themselves to be tributaries, siphoning everything that they have to you, then they are to be put to the sword and killed. This is called tributaries. Now, let me, and if Sadique thinks that's a problem, yes. One second. One second. One second. No, I'll be quick. I'll be quick. If Sadique thinks that the book of Deuteronomy is immoral and wicked, why did his God and his prophet affirm it as the inspired, preserved, authoritative word of God that we are supposed to judge by? You just condemned your own fake prophet, Sadique. >> Alhamdulillah. He condemned my fake prophet with your mouth when you won't allow me to speak and defend it. Now, that's a whole completely different thing. >> I'm assuming you want to be a good Muslim. If you want to be a good Muslim, you show me your prophet. >> I'll do that for you. >> Can I do that? >> Listen. You got squashed by Daniel Haku. The second, can I finish? Can I finish your point? >> You got the mic. Can I finish a point? The second you said that the Bible does not confirm the Bible, you killed the entire premise of your of the Islamic dilemma. Now, let me go. Now, please let me. Can I please? Soft, please? All right. >> Now, let me just go logic. Oh, I'm going to go. Let me make a. Let me just >> I thought you just did. >> No, let me just let me just let me just unite us in one subject. Okay. Now, >> now the subject I want to unite us in is that >> ignore. Ignore him. He's he's he's just a troll. >> Yeah. You see, you see what you have to know about David Wood is that his life, his freedom depends on Islam. Because you see, if it wasn't for his, let me finish. If it wasn't, let me finish. If it wasn't for Islam, David Wood would succumb to his psychosis. >> Wow. >> Now, let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. >> Imagine what would have happened to Islam. Yeah. You'd have been killing puppies. You'd have been killing ducks. You'd have been killing puppies, baby ducks, chickens, and and kittens. Chickens and kittens. You'd have been killing them. Now, let's talk about that. Now, let's please. Now, let me just >> But it's not because of Islam. It's thanks to Jesus Christ. >> Let me just make the point. See, that's called playing to the crowd, which is 99% play to the crowd. No, they would never do that. >> No, but you did, man. You got >> Now, listen. >> The most important thing. >> Yeah. The most important thing to Christianity, call it however you want to call it. Christianity is this offer of salvation. Is am I right or wrong? Did Christianity rest its existence on the death and resurrection of Jesus? Yes or no? >> Yes. >> That's true. >> Okay. Now, I have a question. The Apostle Paul >> in the book of in the Apostle Paul, by the way, take a look at that. You see light? >> Look at my face. >> This is called No. You're a white boy. I'm Puerto Rican. Now look light that's called Nord, but anyway, so >> you know who else was really white? >> Muhammad. [Music] >> Yes. And Muhammad had a son who remained, he married into his family and became the general of his armies and the descendants became the general of his armies. Don't ever talk. Wait a minute. Do not ever talk to me. His adopted son. Now, do not ever talk to me. >> He took his wife from >> Let me tell you something. >> He's talking about his son. Let me tell you something. >> It's not his son. Allah abolished adoption so that he could bang his adopted son's wife. >> Very nice. Very nice. But you see, that's his take because you see David >> verses 4 to 5 abolishes adoption in Islam and it was to justify Muhammad banging the wife of his own adopted son. The sick pervert. First of all, >> a sick pervert. The sick pervert was Isaac. Was Isaac. But anyway, let me go to. We, we respect, we respect all prophets and all. >> Can I finish? >> Sure. >> Continue. >> The Bible and let me please, I want you all to listen to this. >> The reason that the >> David, the reason that the Bible puts the prophets in positions where they are not completely perfect, where they show their human side, do you know why? So that God could show that his forgiveness and mercy was before Jesus and after him. That he forgave prophets that did what they did and that his mercy extended to them. And in fact, those descendants of prophets, descendants of prophets of prophets that committed certain acts where they had children are in the very genealogies of Jesus Christ in the book of Matthew, book of Luke. Now, let me continue. Let me say, please, David, let me say this. Salvation is extremely important. Right. >> Right. >> This is what you stand on. Right. >> You, what you offer for the benefit of mankind is the offer of salvation and forgiveness and mercy from God through Jesus. >> Right. >> Right. >> So, I'm asking you, let's put that to the test. Did the Apostle Paul in the book of Hebrews chapter 10:18 who said, uh, that the blood of Jesus will end blood, sin, sacrifice forever? Is that statement completely scripturally true? Let me preface it by saying this. The Apostle Paul claimed to be a sinner. >> That's not what we're talking about. >> No, no, no. But this is what we're going to talk about also. Listen. Or else talk about. You see, let me please. >> Yeah, that's not what we're talking about. If, if you, if you >> You see, this whole thing rests >> I have no problem talking about that next. >> No, let's talk about this and then I'll talk about that then. >> Okay. All right. Take care of yourself on the way out. Your head on the way out. >> Your head on the way out. >> So, so we have here, you, you came to my event and we got topics. We've been running this topic the same way with every Muslim. We just went to a Muslim booth today, y'all. And they couldn't give us a single answer on why is it that the Quran confirms the Bible yet contradicts. But you're here. You're very confident. You seem very knowledgeable. You got your notes. So the topic at hand first, and then go wherever you want. You got, look, you got my word. If you want to talk about your subject, you have no, we have no problem. Deal with the Islamic dilemma first, and then we can talk about sin sacrifices. You can talk about. You can talk about dilemma. Wait a minute. Then I will take you over there. We'll do a live on my TikTok and we can go through all that. You can talk about dilemma all you want. It's your dilemma. >> Wait a minute. But if you don't have a foundation where you're legit, where you're legitimate, then you got to shut your mouth. >> Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Wait a minute. Good. That's good. Our Muslim friends have no foundation for what they believe and the foundation of themselves. Our scripture contradicts it. Islam has no foundation and not according to me. I'm happy to let people speak, but Sadik says that Muslims need to shut their mouths. Not in the Old Testament. The dual nature. In fact, when Jesus came and spent 40 days, let me ask you, did he teach the disciples the ins and outs and the mechanics of dual nature? Yes or no? >> Did the, did the Quran? >> No, I'm asking the Bible against God and his prophets. >> Would you answer the question? You can't answer a question. >> Yeah, we can. Did the Quran affirm that? >> Did the, does the Quran affirm what? >> The gospel that Jesus, whatever he taught in the gospel that we read in Matthew when he's going over with his disciples, does the Quran confirm that? >> No. So then what does it say? Now, let me tell you, now, will you allow me to talk? What is it confirming? >> Okay. You're too pretty for that. Now, listen, I'll tell you. But anyway, testing, testing. But anyway, let me give you and I'm going to be brief on this. The Quran from the very beginning establishes because we in Islam are completely entire. This is why we stick to certain hadith and certain sayings like for instance, that in a hadith it says that God has, you want to say, two right arms, two left heads, and two. We stick to it. We stick to it because if it is written by God and it's there in scripture, then the Muslim says, we take it for what it says and we don't interpret it. We leave it at that. We leave it at that. >> I love it. Then your book says affirm it affirms our book, our gospel, our Torah, and it orders us. And if you don't interpret it, then go with what it says. That's the Islamic dilemma. How are you not getting this? >> Can I finish? >> So then the Quran, you see, this is what he must do. And this is what you are all about here now. Not to allow an answer to flow, a thought to give you the full answer. But how is it when every single time I try to make a point? >> Okay. All right. Let me, let me shut him down. Hey, David. Now, let me >> Chill out. >> Okay. Now, let me ask, now, let me ask you on Islamic dilemma. This is what you want. Now >> Yeah, that's what I want. >> Okay. Now, so the Quran then affirms because this is the righteousness of Allah and the truth of Allah, that he is the one who inspired scripture and revelation to mankind. That's part of his mercy. And he affirms therefore that he inspired and generated the Bible, the Torah, and the or what you would call the New Testament, that this, that he inspired it and he does not deny the Quran. In fact, the Quran mentions more talks about other prophets more than it does the prophet Muhammad and more about other things because it's not a book dedicated to selling, >> you know, itself like the Bible is dedicated to selling Judaism. It is a book of guidance for all of mankind, free of that type of pro of that type of aspect. Okay. Now, so the Quran affirms this and it says that, okay, let me finish that. The Bible was indeed revealed and inspired by God without a shadow of a doubt. >> But then what happens is, but then what happens is what is held in esteem is the law. The halakha. >> The how you say it? >> The law by the, the law because that is eternal in Islam is the Sharia. Now, the law is extremely important because that is the means by which society, culture is defined and by the way it moves together and evolves. So law is extremely important. So the Quran then verifies the law that was given. Now, look what the Quran does. Can I, let me finish this part right here. >> You say you come on, bro. >> Let me just finish this point right here. >> All right. I'll let you wrap this up. >> Okay. The point right here is then after that >> the Quran then takes on the obligation as it says in the Quran. This is the scripture that has come to protect the truth that which came before it. So then the, the Quran takes a line item approach to the theological claims of the Bible. This is why, David, let me ask you, where does the Quran confirm that Jesus Christ is the son of God, who has a Greek assay to God, who is eternally generated with God, who has, wait a minute, who has God's essence and nature, that where does God affirm that son and that he is going to die for our sins on the third day? >> Can we answer that? Yeah. >> Yeah, sure. 2 chapter 2:41 says, "Believe in what we have revealed," >> confirming what is with you. So what is with them? Now, guys, did you guys hear his question? Question was, where does the Quran confirm this this concept of a son of God who is equal in nature with the father and so on and so forth, right? So when it says that the Quran confirms that which is with them in possession of the Jews and Christians, what was with them? IP >> The gospel. >> The gospel. And in the gospel, it says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life." It also says in the gospel, "Look, you went on perfect on time." It also says in the gospel in John 6:40, that whoever, this is the will of my father, that all who look on the son and believe in him will have eternal life and I will raise him up on the last day. Here's another one in the gospel. It says that before times, the has revealed himself and spoken by many prophets. I need, hey, I need you to pay attention. Pay attention. >> I know those. Okay, good. But I'm just identify. >> Did I let him? Did I let him tie? Did I >> Did I let him talk? Did I interrupt him? I, I even, I even put David on the leash for you. >> I even put David on the leash for you. >> I let him talk for three minutes straight. We waited for an answer and we didn't get an answer. >> So, so here it is. So I gave, gave you, I gave you what the gospel says about the divine son. And so now your Quran confirms what was with them of the gospel. So that's where your Quran confirms that. Okay. No, there real quick. >> Yo, this dude right here was over there debating some Hebrew Israelites >> and this dude had them stuck. Do you hear me? >> Had them stuck. So I just want to give a shout out, give you your flowers, man. Praise God for you. And uh, where can people find your content and your, you know, just give them your information. >> Uh, Instagram is un_l l y a r e d and then YouTube and TikTok, it's soldier for Christ. Soldier number four Christ. So >> for the glory of God, man. Thank you. >> That's right. That's right. >> You know what? >> We got, we got these soldiers rising up, guys. So it's really amazing. >> A victim. >> By the way, um, >> a victim. You heard. >> Now, let me tell you something. >> Wait. So here we are. We got, we got to come back to it. We got to come back to. I'm going to give you the mic, too. You gave five verses. >> Yeah, I know. I gave you. So, what, what we did was, what I showed you was is that in the gospel, it says that God has a divine son that he sent to the world. Your Quran confirms the gospel. So, you asked, "Where does the Quran confirm that God has a son?" When he confirmed the gospel. >> Okay. Now, can I say something? >> Yeah. Absolutely. >> First of all, and I hope you let me finish. I said, where in the Bible, in the gospel, does it say in specific terms, remember this is what you base your religion on, that God sent a son who is equal in nature, equal in essence, with the same assay, who is eternally generated, who is completely co-equal to God? >> Where did he send? No, that's not an answer because he named nobody. In fact, none of the verses say Jesus. Now, let me take this to to another point. The Quran deals, deals with that. For instance, Alhamdulillah, the Quran deals with that in Surah 19, with the sonship of Jesus, in Surah, Surah 19, verse 75 to 89. It puts it in terms of the sonship of Jesus Christ in a manner that has never been put in any scripture in human history. It says the earth shakes, the mountain is const, the earth shakes, the mountain tumbles at the aspect that God would take on the son, most, most majestic. Now, what I'm saying, and let me finish the point, is why we're dealing with this point. >> So the Quran talks a little louder. >> Yeah. Flip it around. >> Okay. Here you are. >> Okay. >> Baby, baby, >> there you go. >> You don't understand how much I love you, baby. Yeah. Here we go. >> You heard that? I showed you who I was. >> But who I was is not who I am. I sing now in my heart for Allah subhana wa ta'ala for >> That's wrong, man. >> No, no, but I'm singing. You're making it singing in that way. >> You got a good voice, but that's a wrong, man. But, but ain't I? Yo, listen. >> Ain't that wasn't that the bomb? But anyway, um, so the Quran then takes a line item approach while establishing, yes, that the, both the gospel and the Quran was revealed by God. Of course, he's going to say that this is the, the same way the Quran has the, how can I say it? I'm not going to say it, but has the gumption to call Christians and Jews the people of the book. But anyway, so the Quran does that because of the statement of truth and its commitment to truth. It does not deny you who you are as people who received revelation from God. >> Man, quit preaching, man. >> Can I respond to this real quick? >> Okay. No, let me finish because the point >> All right, you got, you got to land wrap this up though, dude. I'm going to wrap it up. >> Let's not trade monologues. Let's have a conversation. >> I'm going to wrap it up. >> So, the Quran then takes a line item approach and rejects those basic theological uh claims by Christianity on a line item basis and rejects them directly while confirming that that book. Now, let me ask you a question. Was the Bible, the Old Testament, and the New Testament in the seventh century? Was it the original text? Did the Jews and Christians have the original gospel and the original Torah in the seventh century? Yes or no? >> According to your Quran, yes. Because according to your Quran, it says that it confirms the Torah and the Gospel. Notice how I let you talk, right? >> No. But that's >> Come on. Notice how I let you talk. Look, you don't got to be panicking so early. No. Muslims. >> Why you panicking so early, man? Trying to jump out the pot. Because we Muslims say you don't have the original. >> Hey, and but Allah says I do. But we know you don't have the original Quran. We know it's been changed. Come on, man. Let me, let me talk. >> Say what you want. Okay. >> Let me talk. Can I talk? But I want to talk to you though. I don't want to talk at you. >> Okay. But do not distort what I said. >> I didn't say what you said. >> Look, look, look. You said you asked me. I can repeat your question. You asked me, did the Jews and the Christians in the 7th century have the original Torah and gospel that Allah originally revealed to the prophets? That was your question, right? My answer, yes. So my answer to you, my answer to you is yes, according to your Quran. Your Quran does not make a distinction. Let me, I'll let, I'll let you notice this. >> I let him talk three minutes straight. No interruptions yet. I, I'm now to answer his question. He's immediately interrupting me. If you want to have a dialogue, look, >> if you want to deal with that directly before you run, >> I have no problem. If you want, if you want to do it like this, let's do it like this. But let's not trade three minute monologues. Is that what you want to do? >> Okay, let's go further. >> Okay, let's go point for point. If you want to interact like that. >> Okay, cool. So, according, I, I'll stop here. Your Quran says that is confirming the Torah and Gospel that's there in the seventh century. It makes no distinction between what they had in the seventh century in Muhammad's time and what they had in Moses and Jesus's time. Okay? Islamic scholarship in totality. Now listen, don't talk throw away scholarship because you consult scholarship all the time. In fact, you make it a point to quote hadiths on a regular basis. On a regular basis. But the hadiths are only good when they suit your purpose. >> That's right. Now, when the, now in your mind because you have a degree in the science of hadith, >> no, okay, in my heart. So in your mind, so when they, when they said, you know, now the Quran, look what it does. Again, I'll repeat, the Quran takes a line. I, it confirms that the gospel, that's what you had. Did you had this revelation that was given to you as Christians? It was there. The Quran confirms it. It was there. That gospel that you had, you know, that you call supposedly the gospels. By the way, this is a gospel. What gospel you have? This is a side point. >> Do we have that? >> Okay, let, let me finish. And this is a side point. The gospel that you had with you at that time, seventh century, but the Quran. >> Wait, I'm sorry. I misunderstood you. I'm answer. >> No, just clarify. >> You said that I can finish. >> No, no. I said I said we can interact with each other's points because that's what you wanted to do. >> Finished the point first. You made three already. >> No, I didn't. You made it. Now, >> Jesus, Lord Almighty. >> So, the Quran then >> now you made me forget. So the Quran, so the Quran, so the Quran deals with that what you had in your hands and then what you had confirms what you had in your hands because that's the only thing you got in your hands and then takes a line item approach to its theological content. >> Okay. So where does it do that? Where, where does this, where does it say that? Yeah. Where does it say in the Quran? Look, this is what I want. Where does it say in the Quran that what I have in my scriptures, that it's addressing what is in my scriptures and that it's saying that what's in my scriptures about Jesus being the son, Jesus being crucified or being God, that this is wrong? It's in the scriptures, not what they say, but that it's in my books. >> Okay, this is Islamic scholarship and it's and it's talked about in the Quran. Islamic scholarship itself, let me finish the verse. I need the verse. >> Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. >> Is the assayity >> Oh my God. of the son of God in the Old Testament. >> Give us the verse. Give us the verse. Give us the verse. Give us the verse. Give us the verse. Give us the verse. >> You rely on the interpret. Let me ask you, what, what do you think about the church fathers? >> I don't care about that, bro. I'm not, I'm not going to deal with that. What? >> I'm not going to deal with that. >> Well, she's asking first. I tell you what, get yourself, get yourself a life. Get yourself a life. >> Get the, get the, get the, get the >> Just listen. We just want the verse. >> Okay. You see, I would, I would tell you, sister, get yourself a life. Cover yourself. Stop. >> Now, second. >> All right. All right. And, and stop doing this. Don't call your sister like that. Please. No, no, distract. Don't, don't use that as a distraction. Look, look, we'll ask it again because he's just using this as a distraction. Here it is again. Where in the Quran, I'll ask the question again so you can get the chance to answer. Where in the Quran does it address my book and says that what my book says is false, addresses particular points in my book and says this is false. Okay. >> Woe to those who write the book with their own hands to profit for music for Christ. Woe for what they say and woe for what they earn. This is addressing that that which you have in your hands is a product of what? In fact, it's a product of both and Alif, both of them. Now, who said this? I have a video. If you please, people go to my TikTok, Sadik. >> I like that plug, man. No, because let me finish so that you can get details on this subject. Go to Sadika del Malik, the fate of faith on TikTok. Go to it right now. 18. >> I'm not going to follow you. We're not going to follow you. Please. >> Don't follow me. Let me tell you this. Don't let them use you as a distraction. Just focus. Just focus. Just focus. >> Focus. Hey. Hey, guys, follow him on TikTok. >> Yeah. We need Sadi. We need you on the camera. Sadique. We need you. We need you on the camera. Yeah. He's using you as a distraction like that. >> Come on. No distraction. >> That's what you want. >> Focus. Focus. Sad. Sad. You got to focus, man. >> Right here. >> So anyway, so anyway, now they make me forget the points. >> What you're saying is that woe to those who who write them hands. >> So this is an indication that the Quran is doubting that which you have in your hands at that time. Then therefore, let me finish. Can I finish? >> I can prove 100% that's a lie. Just let me go. Quick one, quick one, quick one, quick one. No, no, no, no. And then you'll think of that. This is why the Quran takes a line item approach to your content, fool. You hear me say, oh boy, listen. I'm going to get, I'm going to get you a baby duck for you to kill. So anyway, >> let me tell you why. You know why? This man doesn't realize that his sanity. Now, listen. So the Quran's doubting what we have in our hands. 42 years. >> Every day. >> If it wasn't for Islam, he wouldn't be the one who is right now. But anyway, >> and by the way, why do you follow a sociopath? >> Brother, can you get to the point? >> Okay. Same thing for you. Why do you follow a sociopath? Didn't you learn what, didn't you learn with Adolf Hitler? If you don't learn, >> I don't follow a sociopath. You know who I follow? I follow Jesus who's right here living in this man's heart. But, but that Jesus >> and that Jesus changed him into a glorious son of God through his own blood by washing him clean. It's not who he was. It's who he is now. He died to himself. He died to himself and now through Jesus shines through him. That's who we follow. Stay there. Stay there. Please state that. >> So, so you, wait, just real quick. >> Please state that. I want you to stay. >> 279 in the Quran. He says, "Woe to those who write the book with their own hands, claiming it's from God, seeking a small price." So, he says that this verse is what demonstrates that the Quran doubts what is in the possession of the Jews and Christians. Now, David says that he can prove that that's a lie. All right. So, David, what you got for us? >> Well, this not going to be hard, ladies and gentlemen. Uh, there's this thing called context. Read the verses before, read the verses that come after. You go to Surah 2. You already quoted one. You go to Surah 2: verses 40 to 44 where Allah says that the reason the people of the book should believe in Muhammad and the Quran is because they're affirming the scriptures that are with us, which Sadi keeps attacking and saying are corrupted. Then you get to verse 79 that says, "Woe to those who write the book with their own hands." And he says that's talking about our book being corrupted. What he doesn't tell you is that just six verses later, Surah 2, verse 85, Allah says to the people of the book, "Do you only believe in part of your book and not in all of it?" >> If you don't believe in all of it, every last verse, he says he will send us to hell. >> So he's he's lying about his own God. He's lying about his own book. He's lying about his own prophet. So the question is, what is Surah 2:79 actually talking about? It's talking about writing something in addition to the scriptures and treating that as if it's the word of God. We're quoting the Torah and the gospel. Allah says if you quote something outside of it and treat it as if it's the word of Allah, he will then you are doomed. He says woe to you. What does Sadi say when we challenge him? What does he say when we challenge him on what the Quran says? Go to the scholars. What's that mean? He's quoting other books and treating them as the word of Allah. And Allah says woe to you. Okay. Now, now, where does the word trinity is not listen? [Applause] >> Even if you're right, Sadik, >> that's what I'm trying to say. You're talking about Islamic scholars. Even if you're right, if you're right, if 279 is about the corruption of the scriptures, it just means the Quran is hopelessly contradictory because it says our scriptures are corrupted, but we're to judge by them. We're to stand on them. It's confirming them. It makes no sense if you're right. >> It's two against one. It confirms, as I told you, the Quran, if you read it, takes a line item, line item approach to the most. You see chapter, verse. You see chapter and verse. One verse one. Is it too much? >> Okay, can I for one? >> You see, you won't let me talk. What you're doing? >> You see, this is not communication. >> What is caused? No, is this the way you do it? >> You're contradicting your. Is this how you do it? Your God says you're going? >> Is this how you do it? God and your prophet say you're going? >> Well, you don't allow because of the power of the truth, you won't allow it to be spoken. >> You're not talking truth. Look, man, you're wasting a lot of time. >> The Quran again, where does the Quran affirm Father, Son, and Holy Ghost? >> When it says that it affirms the gospel. >> No, because again, it's not citing. The Quran says not trinity. >> Okay, I got say not very good. Let me finish. >> That's the dilemma. Got it. He gets it. >> No. No. Listen. >> So, here's the problem. >> No, listen. Quran says don't say trinity, but it affirms a book that claims the trinity. Listen. >> The Quran is telling you directly to stay away from. I told you, it's a line item approach to the theological claims of the Bible. Now, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, we already had a verse. I'm not >> Get the verse. Another one. But would you? >> All right. Look, so >> Jesus is nothing but a prophet. Not the son of God. He is not God. The Quran told you that he is not God. >> The problem that we're having here, Sadi, listen. Let me >> The problem that we're having, just hear me out, my brother. >> The problem that we're having is that you are affirming the Islamic dilemma. >> No, it's not. >> You're, you're, you're proving to us. Look, guys, pay attention. Here's the argument. Everybody paying attention. Here's the argument. The argument is the Quran says that to not say trinity. The Quran says that God has no son. Okay. So, it's saying that your book, Avery, is false. Christians, your book is false. No, it's not. Okay, I'll grant you that. But otherwise, >> it's taking a line item of >> But it also says, it also says, "Let the people of the gospel judge by what God revealed in it." It says, "If those who do not follow the gospel, you are rebellious." So at the same time, the Quran is affirming a book that it's contradicting at the same time. Don't deny me. So he has no self-awareness that he's affirming the Islamic dilemma. You're proving our point. >> Now, let me say something. >> Did you hear what I said? >> I, I heard. And you know what? You know I, you know what I >> You were yelling when I was talking, man. >> You know, because I'm talking to him and making the point now. >> But you're trying to make a point when I make a point. >> I'll stress it over and over again. The Quran, the Quran does not deny that the Bible was revealed by God, the only New Testament. >> Amen. >> But then it takes the approach because the Quran says this is >> And that's it. >> I get his argument. I get his argument. Here's what he's saying. >> He's saying, look, look, in the Old Testament, saying bothering me. >> Focus, focus. This way. Let her get her. And you're saying there's no right. You're saying there's no assay in the Old Testament. >> I mean, she got her hips broken. You heard? >> Your argument is in the Old Testament, there's no assay. So like, we can go to scholars that will help us to find and understand these verses to understand Christian doctrine. Like, I say, this doesn't work. The reason it doesn't work is because we don't have verses in the Bible where it says that we cannot go to scholars because we're not making that without making partners with Allah. So that doesn't work. Your Quran says this thing that you cannot go to your, your rabbis, your priests in Surah 9. You cannot worship them. What is Muhammad when he says that? He says that. So that's the problem. You're assuming. No, you're assuming Islamic standards on Christian doctrines. That's not how this works. Your books, your books say certain things, give you certain parameters to live by, to do certain things by. Those parameters are not on the Bible, and you're trying to force them on us. That's the problem. He just, he just have to focus. Focus here. Focus here. >> Now, listen, can you see me? Because I don't want any of these beautiful people to understand and not know what a 75-year-old man who eats rice and beans looks like. But anyway, so let's get to the point now. We dealt with this thing on. I gave you my point over and over again and you have >> We didn't deal with it. You didn't, you didn't deal with nothing. >> How many times did I say nine item approach? How many times did I say that the Quran deal with the Bible affirms that it was revealed? Now, let me ask you a question. Is what I have? Is what is, is what I have what Allah revealed? >> Is what the, the books that I have in my possession right now, do I have what Allah revealed? >> Parts of it are what Allah revealed. That's why. Can I finish? That's why it takes a line item approach. Now, let me please, let me finish the statement. Now, I want you to answer this question. No, show us where the Quran says that. Please. I already gave you a verse. I already gave you the verse and and gave it. Put which person is supposedly refusing? Sitting alone. I need you. I can't do it. >> I need you to understand what I'm saying. Okay, cuz I understand what you're saying. I know you are, but you're yelling over us. That's why. Look, I hear you. You got three people and I'm one. I'm yelling over you. >> Yes, you're yelling over me. We're letting you talk, man. So, look, here it is. Look, brother, just have the patience. See, when you're Christian and you have the Holy Spirit to be able to listen to you so we can, we can hear you out. So the point is, Sadik, >> we get your argument. What we're asking you to do, you're saying that the Quran gives a line by line, basically a a criticism of what is in the scriptures, right? That it's, it agrees with some parts and then it tells us the parts it disagrees with, right? >> Yeah. What I need you to do besides give me a beat that's super dumping. >> What I need you to do is give me a verse where the Quran is saying, "This is in the scripture and this is what we disagree with as Allah." >> Okay. >> Now, you want the Quran. Does the Quran confirm what your own Bible does not confirm? Does the Quran confirm Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost? >> When it affirms the gospel. Yes. But it also contradicts it by >> Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. Is that gospel that you say is confirms the gospel? Is it confirmed also by the Torah? >> He said he said >> Okay, let me finish. Let me >> According to, he said, where in the Torah the gospel, uh, is confirmed by the Torah. >> No, no, that's not what I said. That's exactly I said, where does the Torah confirm trinity? Father, son, and holy ghost. Now you're switching it. Now you're switching. Father, are you recording it? Did you? Wait a minute. Did you record it? Hey, when does the Torah confirm the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? I got you. You got Deuteronomy 32:6. It says, "Is he not your father who created you?" You got in Isaiah 9:6. It says, "For unto us a child is born, a son is given, and his name shall be called the mighty God." There we go. We got 2 Samuel 23: verses 2 to 3. It says, "The Spirit of Yahweh speaks by me. God's words are on my tongue." So we got the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit all in the Old Testament. There you go. Let me give you one more verse here. Hey, you will like this one. In chapter 5, 46, y'all. It says, "And we gave Jesus the gospel, confirming the Torah which came before it." So in your book and my book, it confirms what I got. Is that the truth? >> Again, is it the truth? >> Okay. The truth. >> Is the truth. Be alive. Let me >> You never let me ask you and you saying it alive. >> Is Isaiah 9:6 in the Old Testament in your, how's it written? Benu in Hebrew, baby. >> In Hebrew, I'm sorry. It's okay. Okay. In Hebrew, I'm giving you the original verse. What did they do? They took the verbs in the verse which is byra and the other verse and they changed the verbs to a future tense. Change it from the Hebrew perfect tense. The perfect tense is past. They call it perfect tense because it's proven. It already happened. So past tense in Hebrew grammar is not past tense but the perfect tense. Now, let me finish. Should I pour? >> Okay. Now, now, so now, now let's answer because none of that was false. >> All of that was false. Wait a minute. Let me finish. >> How does that answer that says that these scriptures are false points? >> What you pointed out is not confirmed in the Old Testament. That's why 99.9% of all Jews reject Christianity. Why 99.9% of all Jews rejected Jesus in his time. And why that is false? The histo, the sociologist and historian Rodney Stark actually points out many Jews converted to Christianity early on. They just, they just did not keep their Jewishness. Yes. Triumphal Christianity. Yes. Yes. Answer. >> Yes. Let me answer. Many >> Jesus could not get enough people to scream for his release and from Pontius Pilot. >> Are you kidding me? >> Do you think all the Jews of the first century were at Jesus's child? I'm not talking about, I'm talking about the Christian. Listen, the Christian, let me finish a point. If not, I'm talking about the Christian interpolated. But notice how you left how the Quran is confirming what we have. >> We have, we have a Jew here. We have, we have a >> What's up, brother Jew? >> This is Radar. Listen, listen. This is Radar. >> Oh, he's not a Jew because he >> This is Radar Apologetics. He is a Messianic Jew. He believes in Jesus. Okay. >> All right. All right. All right. All right. So, let's look at the text real quick. Brother, go ahead. You ready? Aad shalom. Check it out. What will be his name? Pellegore. Mighty God. You know what's so crazy? How does Isaiah use mighty God, Elgibore? In chapter 10, he refers to the God of Israel as mighty God. >> Elgibore is used for mighty and strong man. >> No, no, no. Check it out. What does, listen, is Eli Ball used for mighty and strong man? Why? Okay. Because you have a microphone and I don't. >> Okay. Now, is Eli Ball used for mighty and strong man? Yes or no? >> What verse you use it for? What verse you want to go to? What verse you want to go to? It used Elgibore. Is it used also for a mighty and strong man also? You got a verse. >> Pull it up. Pull it up. Get that. >> You're the Jew. >> Get the verse. >> Wait a minute. You're the Jew. >> My verse is right here. What Isaiah believes the child to be born from Isaiah 7. It's a sign from God. That's why it's a virgin. That's why it's Emmanuel, God with us. In Isaiah 9, he's called mighty God. In Isaiah 10, this is the God of Israel referred to. This is what Isaiah believes. Now, can we talk? >> And hold on, one more thing. Let me throw one more thing at you. And you got the mic. >> This is, listen, hold on. Hold on. Let me throw the statue real quick. >> Against one. >> It's all right. >> I want you to see this. >> Listen. Check this out real quick. Real quick. >> Against one. When I make >> He's right. It is four against one because the Ummah did not show up. Where is the Ummah? >> You know why? >> Where are they? You know why? You know why? You know why? Because we only one and >> we invited the DA guys who live in New York City, popular in New York City. None of them wanted to come. They do DA when we're not here, but when we show up, ain't no dawa to be found to play. And they left our friend here, Sadi, 75 years old, standing on his own, right, against four Christians by himself. You take a naked.