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These white folks in the Supreme Court who believe racism is okay. Well, that's going to be real tough. Uh boy, the Supreme Court today give Latinos their wakeup call. In a 6-3 decision, the Supreme Court uh uh reverse a lower a a lower court ruling uh that um uh that folks, this is actually it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable that that ethnic race, ethnicity, and language can now be used as grounds for reasonable suspicion in immigration raids. That's right. It clears the way for ICE agents to conduct sweeping interrogation efforts uh in Los Angeles. The majority lifted a lower court restraining order that had blocked these raids. Yeah.
Governor Gavin Newsome, this is the statement that he released after the Supreme Court decision. Trump's handpicked Supreme Court majority just became the grand marshall for a parade of racial terror in Los Angeles. This isn't about enforcing immigration laws. It's about targeting Latinos and anyone who doesn't look or sound like Steven Miller's idea of an American, including US citizens and children, to deliberately harm California's families and small businesses. Trump's private police force now has a green light to come after your family. and every person is now a target. But we will continue fighting these abhorrent attacks on Californians.
Ellie Mistto is the justice correspondent for Nation. He wrote an article that dropped today that's called "The Supreme Court Just Gave the Okay to Racial Profiling." Ellie joins us right now. Ellie, how you doing? Um, I'm terrible. This is one of the most racist decisions the Supreme Court has issued since Plessy v. Ferguson. Um, and I and I can't express enough um how disgusting it is and how again definitionally racist the Supreme Court was today.
Well, absolutely. And the thing that's that's insane to me, what's totally insane to me is they're saying, "Oh, yeah. Oh, if if they look if they they they they sound sound Latino, look Latino, smell Latino, yeah, yeah, I can go ahead and pull them over." The the court's outline what what's interesting here is that the court just said that racial profiling is now constitutional, right? Um and what's interesting here is that the government never tried to hide it, right? Like the government often when they do horribly racist things, they're trying to say like, "Oh, actually we're not being this racist because of that. Actually, it's not as bad as it looks." This time the government was straight up, "No, no, no, no. We are racially profiling Latinos in Los Angeles." They they outlined four different factors, Roland, for why ICE is allowed to stop anybody um round anybody up, legal or illegal. They outlined four factors. One was, does the person look Latino? None even is Latino. Do they just look Latino? Right. Two, do they speak English with a Spanish accent or do they speak Spanish? Right? So if you now look Latino and you speak Spanish, you can be rounded out by ICE. Three and four were what kind of job the person is doing or again appears to be doing and where the person happens to be when ICE picks them up. Right? So, if you're a Latino person walking out of a Home Depot, guess what? You can be rounded up whether you were there for work or whether you were there to pick up a door knob for your house, right? It is again definitionally racist. The government admitted to this level of racism, saying that you can round people up just because they look Latino and speak Spanish. And the Supreme Court was like, "Yeah, that's fine." Six to three. Um, Brett Kavanaugh um with the concurring opinion here. And what's wild, and I saw um our friend Jamal Hill make this point, Roland, this is the same Supreme Court that says you cannot look at race when it comes to college admissions. Right? So you can't look at race when it comes to whether or not you're allowed to go to college, but you can look at race when it comes to whether or not you have to go to jail or get deported from a country. Right? It is it is absolutely um insane to me.
The other the other thing here that that Kavanaugh did that I find so I I'm trying to find the nice word to it. It's the whitest thing possible, right, is how Brett Kavanaugh described describe what it is to be stopped by ICE. He said it was a usually very brief, polite and prompt conversation where if you're a legal p if you're a legal immigrant or legally a U.S. citizen or just happen to be born here where you're allowed to walk free after simply proving to ICE's satisfaction that you're a citizen, right? And of course from Brett Kavanaugh's white ass perspective, I'm sure that's what he thinks. But I bet Roland I bet Brett Kavanaugh would react differently if the question was, "Hey Brett, there have been a lot of rapes in this area." So we're just rounding up all the white guys to see if they committed any of these rapes. Hey Brett, do you have a calendar perhaps that you could show that proves that you didn't commit any of these rapes? I bet Brett Kavanaugh would feel a lot differently if that's what the government was doing instead of simply racially profiling Latino uh Latino Americans. Uh and of course uh you've got uh the resident negro Clarence Thomas agree with it. Alito, John Roberts, uh Amy Coney Barrett, uh Sam Alito uh and I mean yeah they they've co-signed racism. They they they.
Now here's the thing. All right. Is is this have a narrow? This is this narrow? I mean, basically they said they've just said stop and frisk is now perfectly constitutional. I'm telling you these folks are going to use this against black people. Oh, they're going to use it against everybody. Anybody who thinks that this is going to stay in the Latino community is just first you lack empathy and second you're just fooling yourselves. Um, if they can use racial profiling to round up Latinos again, regardless of whether or not they are of legal status, you're absolutely right. It's going to come for black people next. It's going to come for Asian-Americans next. You know, you're Vietnamese woman working in a nail salon. Guess what? You can be rounded up on suspicion of being an illegal immigrant, right? You're a Chinese man who happens to own their own dry cleaner. Guess what? You can be rounded up. Um, just in case ICE thinks that you're illegal immigrant.
The other thing Brett Kavanaugh and the rest of the racist conservatives don't bother to explain is what does it require to prove to ICE that you're a citizen? I mean, even even beyond the fact that you shouldn't have to show your papers, what papers do you need according to ICE? Because the Supreme Court makes no standards for what ICE is allowed to ask you or not, right? What they're allowed to require or not. Again, white folks, as far as I know, and I'm not white, so maybe it's a little bit different on that side of the tracks, but I don't know a lot of white people that run around with their birth certificates in their pocket, right? I don't I don't know a lot of white folks that keep proof of citizenship in their wallets. And of course, white people can't don't have to because white people know their proof of citizenship is on their face, right? Even if they're like a German working in a beer hall. Oh, nobody's going to question them. They are clearly allowed to be here because of the color of their skin. Everybody else apparently needs to carry around papers that ICE can demand to be shown in the back of one of their trucks whenever they want. That is the upshot of this of the Supreme Court ruling.
Brett Kavanaugh specifically addresses the fact that in many of these cases um the people who are rounded up, again, legal or illegal are being brutalized. And he says, "Yeah, I don't have to concern myself with that. That's not an issue for this case. Um, if they're being brutalized, there are other federal courts that you can go to um to allege uh police brutality," not mentioning the fact that Brett Kavanaugh has been a consistent vote to deny people access to the courthouse in cases of police and official uh federal brutality. Oh, he doesn't mention any of that. He just says he doesn't have to care about police brutality 'cause that's going to be some other case. It it is I I called it online the most racist decision this court has made since Plessy v. Ferguson because it is the straight up application of a double standard based on the color of your skin in this country. If you are brown and on a train or on a bus, the government can snatch you off of that train and make you show your papers. If you're white, they can't. That's racism.
I tell you what, if you're coming here for the FIFA World Cup, no way in hell I would come to the United States or even the Olympics. Oh, I mean, look, if you're coming to cheer on the Germans, why not, right? If you're coming to cheer on Wales, I'm sure you're good, right? And I'm sure if you're coming to cheer on Argentina, you think you're going to be good 'cause 'cause you think you're gonna, you know, 'cause you know, you the you assume that white people have that card of like, you know, skin tone, okay, not okay. And if you're Argentinian, I'm sure you feel like you're going to be on the right side of okay. But if you're Brazilian, can you be sure, right? If you're Ecuadorian, can you be sure that you're going to be on the right side of? Don't dare try to come here cheer on team Mexico in the World Cup. We know what's going to happen to to those folks. And quite frankly, don't come here to cheer on Ghana, not neither, right? Don't come here to cheer on Tunisia neither because you might not be on the right side of the color line. Because remember folks, one of the things the Supreme Court said in this decision is that if you just look Latino, you can be rounded up. Looking Latino is enough, right? I'm Haitian. But do I look like I could be Dominican? I don't know. But apparently, if I do, according to ICE, then they can make me show show them my papers. And since I was born in Queens, I I don't got no papers. I don't know where my papers are to prove where I was that I was born in Queens. Um, white folks whitening. This is the America that we're living in. That's what this boils down to, Ellie. Uh, and listen, my book is called "White Fear" for a reason. These people, they want a white nation. They uh, you know, you know, over the weekend Elon Musk is posting a bunch of tweets talking about the white fertility rates and oh, no one cares about this and I was like, well, take your ass back to South Africa. And so that's the whole deal. So this is you see it right here. Uh, white people are rapidly diminishing minority of global population. All of this is tied, Ellie. All of these rulings are tied. They do not want to lose uh being the majority race. That's what this is all about. This is whiteness at play. It is my book, "White Fear." How the Browning of America is Making White Folks Lose Their Minds. And today, the white Supreme Court, including that white black man, Clarence Thomas, they lost their minds with this racist ruling. And they're and the thing is they've already lost it. They've already lost their dominant status. They've already lost their majority status if everybody else could just come together. And so like the only shred of hope that I can take from today's ridiculous day is that I would hope that other Latinos of goodwill and good conscience could perhaps rise up together with black with black people, with Asian people, with Native American people. 'Cause if we all hang together, the GOP can't win. If we all hang together, the white supremacists can't win. Right? There are enough of us plus a few good meaning whites that if we stick together and come together, these racists will lose. But we have to all come together because if we keep doing this, the divide and conquer strategy, which has always been the white man strategy, you can go back to how they colonized most of the rest of the world. The divide and conquer strategy has always been the white man's greatest strategy. And if we could just take that away from them, they would lose. Ellie Mist with The Nation, folks. Y'all check out his piece by going to thenation.com. Ellie, we appreciate appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thanks so much for.
Christopher, I want to start with you. I mean, I appreciate it. Uh, Christopher, start with you. This is whiteness at play. I mean, this ruling, I mean, how more racist can you get to say, "Oh, yeah, if they look, sound, smell, act um Latino, y'all can stop them. Go right ahead." Well, we know that uh this isn't the first time. In fact, I was actually surprised. like, "Wow, well, black people been racially profiled since we've been over in this country." So now we just have racism. They just wanted to put it in writing. Maybe it's more convenient for them that way. I don't know. But they've always done this. Now they just want to make it legally of saying, "Well, you can't sue us over this anymore." Or, "Hey guys, guess what? This country really is not free for immigrants or anyone else that does not look white." We want to make sure that you know that and we are putting it in the books to let you know that we consider you a threat and we will go and stop and talk to you. That constitution that we wrote, we didn't write it for you. In fact, they explicitly say they didn't write this constitution for us. They are going back to originalism, not originalism of the ideals of justice, the originalism of racism. And they're going to continuously do that. Y'all, we are 1,229 days until the Trump presidency is over. Okay? 1,229 days. He has not even been done with a quarter of his presidency. There is so much more that's going to come down the pipeline. Am I surprised about this? No. Because again, this has happened to black people. Now, it's happening to Hispanics. Next, like was said before, it's going to happen to Asians. It's going to happen to literally everyone. And you know why? Well, there's a reason why he's deploying the National Guard in major minority cities because that's where the minorities are. Because the Army and the National Guard need to practice rounding up people. 1,229 days. If you think this man is going to go easily or peacefully, he's not. And he's making sure that he exercises this power now. So, and he's using the Supreme Court to make this happen. This is a war. He changed the Department of Defense to a Department of War for a reason. This is a time that we all have to wake up and say, "Look, if there's going to be a war for our democracy, we have to fight to maintain it. Otherwise, this type of dour racism, this is just one, okay? There's going to be plenty more that happens in the future. The question is, are we going to show up to vote to stop it? Are we going to make sure our communities are immune from it? And are we going to fight back?
AD uh is called a Latino wakeup call. That's what this is. Uh, yes. Yes, it is. And I think that this should also be a call to us to understand that like when injustice is codified by law that we are duty bound to resist, organize and uh organize and resist. And so I think that that's where we are now. And I wish that I could say that I was surprised by any of this, but of course I'm not. But the kind of fighting that has to happen at this point, of course, it's reacting to this particular ruling, but I think that folks also need to start thinking about being proactive with regard to all of the things that we can kind of u you know, the tea leaves that we can read that let us know what is coming in the next thousand and something days. But Om Congo, here's the deal. We can't organize for them. They're going to organize for themselves. They have got to wake up. He dramatically increases Latino support. Uh, many of them were voting for the deportations. Now they're realizing, yo, y'all ain't white. Y'all might think y'all white. You might call yourself a white Hispanic, but you ain't white. Supreme Court just said you brown. Yeah. Period. Bottom line. And one of the things that that was said during this panel discussion as well as, you know, of Ellie as well is that if we had the solidarity, we could we could win. We could defeat all of this. The fact of the matter is, you know, Washington Post talks about democracy dies in darkness. It doesn't. It dies in the light of day. And right now, people are just handing this country over to Donald Trump through our inability to come together. The, you know, the business community is working in cahoots with him. When you look at, so why aren't we in our community? Well, we are with like Target and other places, but there should be massive campaigns of withdrawing from businesses, you know, that support this individual. There should be, you know, uh more conversations about how we can protest and work together to support each other through this process. But it keeps folks divided. Um, some of us said already that, oh, it's just a matter of time before they come for Asians. Well, hey Roland, last week they did. 475 South Korean people arrested at that plant in Georgia. The government of South Korea is sending their a charter ship to take 300 of them back home. So they're already coming for every other group. How long is it going to take? Trump hasn't fired, you know, a single shot necessarily. He hasn't, you know, fired any machine gun bullets. It's all through legislate, not through legislation. It's all through working with the Supreme Court who has given him the authority to do whatever he wants. It's all through a weak Congress that has given him the power. We got to fight Congress then. So we got to fight the business community then. Then we got to fight the Supreme Court. It's in our DNA. It's in our blood. But we can't do this alone. We can fight. We can resist. But there's not enough of us to make this happen. And so if this isn't the wakeup call for members of that community, Roland, I don't know what is. But I know that we're talking about over a thousand days of fifth administration, our focus has got to be these midterms and all of these other special elections that are going to be coming up as well because those are going to be the ways that we slowly start to gain power, just like we've seen the Democrats win the majority of special elections that have happened since Trump has come into into power. So, it's not over yet and and I doubt it's going to be over if we don't give up. But, we have to continue to coalition build. I've cited Fred Hampton before and I'm going to cite him again. He was building with rural whites and in other folks throughout the country. We need that type of movement and that type of unity now.
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