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They Found WHAT In My Blood? | Ep 4 | PERMISSIONLESS

PERMISSIONLESS Podcast41:22

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All right. So, today I would love to talk to you about a process that you had done, um, like the first week of January called Enispheresis.

Yeah. Not a lot of people know what this is or what the heck it's about or why you'd want to do it.

Yeah. So, today I think it'd be really valuable to go through those steps of what it is, how you found out about it, where you had it done, what it was like, all that stuff.

Yeah. It's essentially the most, one of the most extreme detoxes on the planet.

Okay.

Yeah. Not, I mean, people hear detox, they might think of like sweat lodges and stuff and

Yeah.

and fainting and near-death experiences, and it's not quite like that. It's a very controlled environment.

Yeah. It's done in a clinic and it's through your blood.

Yes. So if you're afraid of needles,

that's

you might shy away from it.

Yeah. So I ended up doing this. I, I've been like, kind of researching on what I can do to like get healthier after my surgery.

And, um, so if all of course, I had a tumor in my pancreas, they did surgery, they removed it. And so, you know, I just try to do all I can to remove inflammation, to remove toxins out of my body. Like, just go hardcore, you know, no more messing around.

Um, so this wasn't just some biohacking experiment or whatever. Like, I, I really want to be around for a while, especially now that we're having a daughter, you know, I want to be around for her and and, um, I can't, you know, screw around with, you know, having these toxins in me for a, for forever. You know what I mean?

I mean, yeah. Yeah. And also after your surgery and and during this whole process, we kept asking your doctors like, "Why did you get this tumor? How did this happen?" Because you're a healthy person, healthy lifestyle,

healthy.

Well, didn't, didn't smoke, didn't drink,

didn't stay up late,

didn't eat junk food,

fried food,

very healthy person, you know, in the grand scheme of things.

Sure.

Um, and we had no answers as to why this tumor came about. Yeah. And we're familiar with parasites and toxins and heavy metals and mold and and forever chemicals and things.

Um, so yeah, that's when we realize, okay, well, you certainly realized you had to take it into your own hands.

Yeah. And through different people that you've met.

Yeah. Um, in your new journey to detox as good as you can, you like eventually first learned about ozone therapy.

And then this one natural doctor was like, "Well, if you really want to do something intense, check out Enispheresis."

Yeah. So the my friend who I met in Bali, uh, he's like, "Yeah, you should check out ozone therapy." So I'm like, "What is that?" You know, whatever. I'm not going to probably not going to do that. Uh, but then, you know, after the tumor, I'm like, hey, where did you get this thing done? And he's like, uh, this guy Tyler, he's my friend and he's like, yeah, put, go to the Bali Healing Center. There's a woman named Peggy there. And so I went there and, um, you know, she looked at my blood under a microscope and she saw, you know, toxins in there, parasites as well in there, good bacteria,

heavy metals,

heavy metals, um,

mold, even. I think she saw mold.

Did she? I didn't remember that.

Um,

living in Portugal, that's not that big of a surprise.

Yeah. So, I'm like, crap, I got to get this stuff out of my body, you know? And now I was scared to do ozone therapy at the beginning.

In Bali.

In Bali? No, no, just in general because I looked online and I'm like, okay, well, there's so many, you know, news articles of this going, "Oh, this could go really bad. You know, this is this is very dangerous." But then I looked at like, where's the facts of this? How are people dying of this? And no, there's not. And it's just like, it's people that you know, the news or whatever, there's like a, the thing that made me realize, okay, this is all fake crap is because an Australian news station had this thing on YouTube and and it talked about eating or, um, and it talked about ozone therapy and it said, uh, yeah, it's very dangerous, you know, uh, because many people use this out of a clinic, you know what I mean? They do it themselves.

Yeah. And so I'm like, of course, I'm not going to do that obviously. So I'm like, you know what? I think people are these, you know, big pharma has control over these companies, these media companies, and they don't want anybody doing ozone therapy. So I went to do o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o ozzone therapy. And then got to talking to Peggy and she's like, "Yeah, you know, um, if you want, you know, you can be become like, essentially completely free of toxins by doing this hardcore treatment called Enispheresis." And my buddy Kyle as well, and he told me about the place that I actually went to in Switzerland called Ayus.group.

I'm not, I'm not affiliated with these guys at all, but I just want to help people. So, um, I'm like, well, that's like, kind of God's like put two people in my life telling me to do the same treatment.

Right? Like within a week.

Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm like, okay, cool. I'm going to do this. Let's, let's go for it. So flew out to to Switzerland. And you were freaked out. You're like, "Oh man, I don't know about this." Like,

well, just because I saw, I witnessed you obviously have an intense surgery.

Yeah.

Healing from that doing. I mean, maybe ozone therapy in a clinic is, yeah, not dangerous, but still having it done in Bali made me nervous because Bali is not known for its high quality medical care.

Sure.

But it was fine. And so I was, I'm like constantly like finding, finding the boundary and you just like really going full steam ahead.

And me being me, I'm always being really cautious. So,

um, just the process of enuses too is pretty intense.

Um, so I can talk about what the actual process is.

It's a, actually, before I get to go into the process, like, let me go down the history of this. Okay. So in 1981, acepheresis was introduced as a standard medical procedure for blood washing. Uh, in 1998, the core therapy concept of for enuspheresis was first developed. 2006-2017, a comprehensive decade-long data collection period involving over 512,000 data points was conducted to validate the treatment protocol. 2008, the procedure was first introduced in Germany. And 2009, further development of the double membrane, membrane filtration method specifically associated with enospheresis name began. And enuspheresis became established in a in medicine with verified, uh, scientific results.

So the company that we, that I went to was the company that actually created the machine,

first started the AE us, they named it enupheresis and they patented it. So,

yeah. Um, and it's, yeah, it's a blood cleansing. It's like, it's very similar to the concept of like going to dialysis.

Yeah.

Where your kidneys serve as your blood filtration system. And for people that have failing kidneys, you have to have it done once a week.

Um, but this is like, not that it's specifically targeting toxins.

Um, and it goes, it's very intense.

Yeah.

So, what it does is you have, you're basically laying down and they do, they make sure you don't have heart condition or any kind of pre-existing medical condition that would put you at risk prior to doing this. They really make sure that you're going to be safe. There's a nurse that's monitoring you the whole time with your blood pressure, your temperature, everything.

Um, and so, yeah, so there's, uh, one needle goes in to withdraw the blood and it goes through the filtration system and then it, another needle to send it back into your body.

Yeah.

Um, and depending on how good your blood flow is, um, it could take between two and three hours.

Um, and they filter 75% of your blood the first, um, round. They'll do two rounds.

Um, the first day and then the second day is a rest day and the third day is your second round.

Yeah.

And what it does is it takes your blood through, we actually, I can, we can include the video that we took at the actual clinic as well because I explain it through the, um, the machine. Maybe I'll include that here. So, they're using a heating pad to help with the blood flow, but he has two, um, tubes plugged in. This one is taking the blood out and that one is flowing back in, but so it's taking it from him, feeding it through this first filter here.

Um, and that's what separates the red blood cells from the plasma. The red blood continues up and over and then the plasma here, um, gets filtered through and then there's the light that blinks to make sure that there's no red blood cells, um, going into the next phase of filtration, which is this part. And they describe this as like these little white strings are basically hollow tubes, like a macaroni, like a giant macaroni.

Um, but they also have holes, um, along the sides of them as well. And in the center is where the toxins are trapped.

And once, um, they all fill up, then it is signaled to flush out with saline into these bags here. And that's where they'll take, um, the sample to see what types of toxins, um, are in a system. So the first day, you ba, they basically filtered out what was already freely flowing in your blood. And then what that does is it alleviates your body in a manner that kind of sparks it to start doing its own detox and getting deeper in the tissues to release the toxins. So now the second day, it's going to be more telling of what toxins you had that were like being stored in your cells by your body. Either your fat cells or other cells. I'm sure your body health experts here.

Totally. And I'm doing my best.

Um, so also after the plasma is then filtered through here, it's sent on the side, which is reheated to 37 degrees and then it's recombined with the red blood cells and then sent back into his body. And she said at any point in time, the most blood that is taken from him is 250 milliliters. So it's not very much. So it's not like he's going to be feeling lightheaded or anything in this process.

And the blood plasma is filtered through and as those strands become full, then they are, um, the filter is like, kind of released, um, and all the toxins are released into the bag. They're also, um, while you're having this done, you also have saline drip, um, and like vitamin C, glutathione, and a few other things that they're giving you to help you.

CoQ10.

CoQ10. Yeah.

Um, with the detox process. And so basically, it's like depending on how toxic you are.

Yeah.

Um, and how quickly your filter fills up and how many times they have to empty the filter. It says something about number one, the the efficiency of the filter and like it actually getting toxins out of your body, which is great.

So it's kind of like a good thing and a bad thing. Like you kind of don't want to see all the toxins coming out, but then you know that they're out of you and they're not in you.

Yeah.

Um, and then, uh, they say once it's been finished because, you know, they don't want to do too much to your body because it's, it's a pretty intense process for your, your blood to be,

think liver and kidneys.

Yeah.

Yeah. And so, yeah, what happens, they say is when your blood is then like, your plasma is then like cleaner, it signals your body to release the toxins that have otherwise been stored in your other tissues, your, your fat cells. And then that is then sent through again your other natural detox systems, your kidney, your liver. And they, they really encourage you to drink a lot of water, to eat a lot of protein.

Yeah.

Not fatty foods, not sugary stuff, not junk.

Yeah.

Um, and they, they tell you to take a break. Um, like your first day, like don't exercise intensely.

Yeah. We had like a 10-minute walk back to the hotel. That's about the extent. And you were so thirsty after that first one, remember?

Yeah.

You're just chugging the water. So, I mean, I should, I should say that the, the reason why we need to take a break is because once, once they clean out my blood for the first time, you know, once they separate all those toxins out, it leaves a lot of spare room, uh, for my, for oxygen, uh, to go into my blood cells. And, you know, it just, there's more room in and space there. So,

easier to function.

Yeah.

Yes. So it tells my body, oh, hey, there's tons of room, so we can release all the toxins out of my muscle and tissue or whatever. And so that's why when I ended the my first enospheresis, my face looked like I woke up that just woke up, you know, like super puffy.

It wasn't, it wasn't like you couldn't open your eyes, but it was, you had puffy. Yeah. I could, I could definitely tell because my, my capillaries were opening up and it just, and so that's when all the toxins, the real bad toxins that were deep into my tissue, which is like, sauna doesn't really do too much of that, get in like, really deep, and that's when it just unloads into my bloodstream. So I'm like, really, really toxic from that point forward till when I get the second treatment, which is the two days later.

Yeah. The third day. And so that's, so they don't take the toxin bag, uh, that day because that's just what's in my blood. They want to see what's in my deeper tissue and that is, you know, that's the bag that they test.

I mean, they measure everything.

Yeah. They measure everything. Sure.

Measure everything. And, um, my, wow, like that was, uh, I, I actually didn't, I actually slept fine that night.

Yeah. You didn't have a crazy reaction to it.

But my stomach was going crazy. Remember that.

That's right. I forgot about that. I was gurgling so crazy.

It's, it's, that was crazy. I have no idea why that was, but it must have been something about what, what I was doing.

The kidneys or your?

Yeah. I don't know. Something was pumping.

I don't know.

It was like,

Yeah. So, you know, but like, that the bag that I got. Um, so if, if your bag has like reddish tint, you know, at the very bottom of the bag, that means you have like chronic inflammation. And I didn't have any chronic inflammation, but I did have like, when I finished it, they had, there's, there's a bit of silver,

in, in the top, on the top of the bag that was floating. And, and the, the doctor's like, "Yeah, it's probably, uh, heavy metals and pesticides, but mostly heavy metals." So, okay, cool. So, I ended up getting the,

Well, before, before we get into that, that part of the next part, um, they say that after you're done with the second round, your body will continue to be detoxing for about a month.

And that's when,

um, like, it's kind of full completion is like after a month, you can kind of evaluate yourself after that amount of time, see how you feel.

Yeah.

Um, also they say, yeah, don't do a sauna for a week. Don't exercise in the gym for a week.

Yeah.

Because it raises your blood pressure.

Yeah.

And it's too hard for your body.

Yeah. Your body's working.

Yeah.

Really hard, um, to detox. So, yeah, staying very well hydrated is very important. And,

eat a lot of resting.

Yeah. Protein intake, healthy diet,

probably stay away from the high mercury fish and stuff like that.

Terrible. Don't give it away.

Yeah.

Um, but yeah, so then also like you said, you didn't have, uh, evidence of like widespread chronic inflammation in your body, which was a relief, but then surprising.

You went, and a month later, it was about a month later.

Yeah.

You went to London and you had a slightly different process.

Yeah. I can cover that one as well, but I did get this another treatment called EBO2.

And, uh, what that did was it just pretty much takes out inflammation and you can see the inflammation that is turning into bubbles.

So they call that like high-dose ozone therapy.

Yeah. So it takes seven liters out of of blood and ozonates it. Not only does it ozonate it, but it puts it into a UV filter. So it kills bacteria, viruses, pathogens like that. And, um, while it's going back into your body. EBBO2 stands for extracorporeal blood oxygenation and ozonation. Uh, sometimes referred to as EBO with EBO2 being a more advanced 2.0 version.

Um, so it, yeah. And I, okay, I, I want to get into that, but that's for another podcast, I think, because I felt vastly different after this one. And,

maybe we can do a whole thing on ozone.

Absolutely. Absolutely. So, we'll cover this though first.

Um,

you know what's interesting is like every, uh, detox protocol you've adopted,

Yeah.

I feel like your response is, I feel amazing after that. Whether it's,

Yeah.

high-dose vitamin C or it's the ozone or it's the anuses, every time you're like, I feel amazing.

Do you know, like, okay, but here's the thing, Heidi. Remember the first time I got the ozone therapy?

Yes.

I didn't, I was scared. I didn't think it was going to do much.

Yes.

And I was wired. I was so hyper. I had so much energy.

But I couldn't tell if it was because of the actual process or because you didn't die from the process.

No. I was like, really happy to die in the process, but I was like, I had so much energy and slept incredible that night.

That's true.

But, okay, so let's go back to Enisces here.

Okay.

Um, so, yeah. So after a month, before you did the EVO2,

Yeah.

how did you feel? Did you feel any different?

I did. Okay.

I did, but slowly. I felt different. It wasn't like right away.

Can you say like specifically how that was?

So I, okay. So you, you ended up leaving back to Portugal and I stayed there. I went snowboarding,

and just had some fun out there in, uh, in France. And so what, what happened was I've had this, uh, um, inflamed esophagus,

and for almost like a decade, I've, I've had like phlegm. I've been very phlegmy.

Yeah. You know what I mean?

I mean, we always thought it was like sinus infections from surfing.

Exactly. But it's, it wasn't. It was because my esophagus was inflamed and to pro, for my body to protect it, it gives me a layer of mucus on top. So it, so it covers it from the acidity, um, or like the acid reflux. And when I did this treatment, like it didn't happen the first day or two, but afterwards I'm like, Heidi, I, something's happening. Like, like I'm not as phlegmy as I used to be. And you're like, oh, it's probably cold because you're just, it's not rocketting like in the, in the cold or whatever.

You're not sending it down, you're getting.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, but when I got, you know, when I went snowboarding and stuff, like I really didn't feel it as much and that really went away. And also what, which was incredible, like I had this shoulder pain.

Um, and it was like almost debilitating because I couldn't lift, like I couldn't do squats correctly. I had to like, essentially just, I couldn't put my arm around the bar.

Yeah.

What, what are you going to say?

I really think that was from the red light therapy.

It, it might have been both.

Because I also was struggling with shoulder issues in the gym. Do you remember this?

Sure. Uh, in like starting the summer, I couldn't barely do, um, chest press basically or push-ups. It would crunch and it would be really uncomfortable.

Yeah.

I did the red light therapy one time,

and then I worked out and, and this is after, okay, because I, I spent maybe two months resting it, not doing any push motions, um, in the gym.

Yeah.

Which is hard because those are like all my favorite exercises.

Um, and still, it, I would come back to it, maybe after two months, and it would still do it. I did it one time and it's fine now.

Wow.

So, I really think that's a testament to the red light therapy more than anything because that's what it's really known for.

Possibly.

For athletes and for injuries.

But I think yours was a,

not as severe.

Oh, for sure. I'm not saying it was the same as yours. You had like no mobility in your shoulder.

None. I couldn't put my arm around the bar. Yeah.

It looked ridiculous when I did squats.

And, and after this,

you know, as I was a combination.

I think it was, I think it might have been because, you know, I think with what, what red light therapy does is it makes blood flow better in your body and it reduces inflammation and so does this as well, and my body, cleaner blood flow through.

Exactly. So, so the combination, I think, really kicked butt and man, I feel like, like another person.

Oh, that was another thing is before you got the enuses done, he made sure that you were not a professional sponsored.

Yeah, because I'm doping.

Well, I mean, I, it improves your body so much. It's like considered cheating if you're an athlete.

Which is interesting. And I get it because I'm on like, now that I've done this treatment.

Yeah. We understand.

I can go.

You could do like an ultra marathon.

Holy cow. It's crazy. And you feel amazing. Like, I, I used to, you know, struggle with pull-ups as well. It's like getting older, you know? I was, I was struggling with that. Now I'm just like, boom, just like incredible amounts of energy.

Um, there's no fatigue. I do not take naps anymore.

That's true.

Um, I, it just, there's so many positives that I even have to think about what, what I struggled with before all this.

Oh, isn't that amazing?

To, to like, wow, I haven't, I haven't dealt with this for a very long time. Like, this is incredible.

You forgot what was bothering you.

Yeah.

Exactly. And so, like, I think the, the main thing is this inflammation right here. That was really cool to see this slowly going away more and more so. So, that is definitely a testament. But, okay, we, I digress here. Let's get into the toxin bag because that's what I was going to say. The results.

The results are pretty upstairs.

Yeah, go get the. We're pausing it right here.

Okay. So, I took notes from when we spoke with the doctor after they had gone over all your results.

Um, I didn't include the actual levels, like percentages of these that were in your blood because,

I did. I have it right.

Okay. You have that. Okay.

Yeah. Um, but these are the things that were particularly high in your case or prevalent in your detox bag.

Yeah.

Um,

I'll cover the, when you, when you say it, I'll cover the, uh, I'll let you know what the percent.

Okay. Um, so, yeah, so we're going to go over what they were, where the source usually comes from.

Yeah.

And, okay. Anyway, prochemicals. Um, usually a source comes from fuel, paints, solvents, new carpets.

Yeah. New furniture.

Xylene. That's,

Xylene. Is that the name of it?

Yeah.

Okay. And he said like, it can stay in your system for 10 to 15 years.

Yeah. So, this normal is 500. Mine was 8,862.

Same. So, now we're left wondering, how the heck is it this high?

What the heck, man? And your initial thought was jet skis and Nazareth, but it's really, it's not, you're not inhaling it every single day. Okay. What,

I lived under a, a flight path.

Oh, that's so true. I totally forgot about that.

Yeah.

Do you remember? So, sorry, funny little story.

It was like our first day.

Oh, yeah.

In Portugal.

And you're, and we were literally in the back country.

Yeah.

No one, like, no traffic on a little country road and the first thing we hear, first thing in the morning is an airplane tear over us and your face, I'll never forget. You're like, "Even here,

you're in airplanes."

But that's a really good point because also not only that, you're in San Diego where there's Air Force presence and it's not just like commercial airline, it's like,

jets, big time.

Yeah. Okay.

So then, so the number two was, was I'll try to say this, trimethyl benzene. And the,

is it also like the prochemicals?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, or it's dyes, perfumes, solvents, and medications. I, I don't get it, but measurement was 7 thou, or okay, for reference, the, uh, normal,

uh, amount is 500. Mine was 7,245 NG-L.

Um, so, yeah, I have no idea how I got that at all. I mean, my mother had carpets when I was a kid.

Maybe that was it.

No, but you, you tried to say that before and the doctor said, "No, it's like more in the last 10 to 15 years, it would have been affecting you."

I had no idea then. Um,

so I should say, number three is Barium.

And that's, uh, radiation protection in insecticides, hair removal products, contrast agents.

I, I don't know, but also he said that Barium is inside planes, jet engines when they fly overhead, so that's probably has to do that as well.

And Dichloromethane, which is solvents, plastic industry, propellant gas.

Yeah.

And that was normal is 500 and this is I'm at, you, maybe this isn't, maybe it's just the reference is 500. Mine's 5,448.

Yeah.

So,

I mean, I don't know what the reference means and if like, that's the amount that was taken out of your blood or that's the amount they're guessing was in your blood based on what was taken out.

Yeah.

It's, it gets kind of hairy. Um, pesticides, PCB, DDE. They said nearly everyone has them.

Um, it's on food everywhere. So unless you're really careful to eat strictly organic and it's actually organic,

and you're washing thoroughly washing your vegetables,

you're going to have it.

You're going to have it. So, it's hard to avoid, but silver lining, it's easy to detox from it. So,

um, if you find that you're high in that, you can adopt an organic eating lifestyle and it'll probably reduce it a lot.

Yeah. Or do, um, just some detox for it.

I should say really quickly that, um, I talked to my gut health specialist and she's like, "Hey, you know what? Just because you're high in in these numbers right here doesn't mean that's that bad because your body is detoxing it. Your body is like getting rid of it. Sometimes if it's too low, then that could be an issue that your body is not detoxing it."

Especially if it's like your first time doing something like this. It's something that's been accumulated your entire lifetime. You'd expect it to be high.

Exactly.

Um, they, they, the doctors were also pretty confident in saying that more than half of these toxins or more than half has been removed.

Yeah.

So,

yeah, that is true. So half of these are gone.

Out of my body.

Yeah.

Which is probably why I'm feeling so freaking amazing right now.

Yeah.

Um, also another category that they found metals, like again, you said the silver lining in your toxin bag.

Yeah. Barium again, very common.

Uh, source, uh, could be from food, air, airplanes, like again, frequent flyers.

Um, cobalt, also common source is food. Mercury, seafood like tuna, mahi,

mahi, tuna, like mercury is off the chart on mine. And so,

that means actually, let me try to find mercury here because it was like a really high number.

So I think, let's see, for reference, let's see, mercury would be, uh, 0.09. 09. Mine was 4.1, which is very high.

Um, and so that's probably because I ate a ton of seafood, like ton of, uh, mahi mahi, tuna, sushi all the time.

And that definitely, I'm done. I'm done eating tunas. I'm eating like sushi, done. That was the last time. Whatever. In Singapore, that was the last time I ever had sushi. That, that's it. I'm done. I'm, I'm so like, I'm, I'm going to pay attention to this and just do what it takes.

Great.

Yeah.

I'll have the sushi and I'll just do a detox every six months. Okay.

Um, another one.

Freak.

Not unus. Okay. Um, next in your metals that they found was titanium.

And this is often added to white or shiny products like toothpaste or supplements.

Um, also makeup. You're not wearing makeup, but, um, titanium, titanium dioxide, it's like an everything that makes it white or shiny.

Yeah.

And he said that if, especially if it's like a prescription drug,

and you look in the ingredients list and it says titanium in the ingredients,

makes it shiny.

Almost every, it's completely unnecessary. It's just for,

uh, how it looks.

Um,

you can almost always find a company that makes it without it. So for those of you who are particularly wanting to avoid this, and it's easy to do so, yeah, look for that. Um, also you had tin, which was interesting. They said that's often from electronics, heated electronics, like

printers or 3D printers, which you are not around.

No, but when I was younger, I used to play with this train set and it would like, kind of, that like the wires would turn and they would touch each other and I love the smell of like,

burning electronics.

Burning electronics.

So that might, that might have been it.

Um, okay. So now that we know what had been accumulated in your body,

Yeah.

and the levels and things. Um, the next question for that we asked them was, "Okay, well, when should you have it done again?" And they said, "Well, because you're not, it's not like a medical emergency. You don't have like, um, uh, uh, autoimmune disease or rampant, uh, inflammation in your body. It's really up to you when you want to come back. A lot of people, they say come back after like six months to again see now that they've been mostly cleaned up, then you can return one year later or six months later to see what you are currently exposed to.

And then from there, be aware of the toxins that you're like daily taking in and then what you can do to further prevent that from intake, or to see how, how much you accumulate within six months or what within one year. From there, you can determine how often, if you want to repeat this process, how often you should.

Um, if you're pretty clean, you know, and that was just like your lifetime accumulation and then now your life is pretty clean, maybe you don't need to go so often."

I mean, I would like to do the second treatment to get,

like soon. And then,

after like six months.

Yeah.

Or, or even earlier, like, yeah, I would say in a couple months, I would like to do that again to get it out. And then why go back in six? Wait, I don't understand why wait six months if all these toxins are are still in my body potentially and then I can get another, um, uh, heavy metal test to see exactly how much, how far it's gone down because that's really interesting. I want to see like how far it's actually,

how much this has been working. I think that's really important to especially to share with people because, um, you know, I really, because I asked them like, is this like bad for my body if I go do it, you know, within a couple more months or whatever? And they're like, no, it's up to you. You can do it six months, whatever. I think it's just like because it's an expensive treatment, it is.

And it's like intense. You got to, it's an intense process. You have to go through. It's three days.

I mean, I didn't find it too intense, but I mean, I guess it's more intense for other people.

You got to fly all the way out there. That's fine. It's Switzerland.

I mean, it's not like, you know, hop down to the pharmacy.

Sure. Okay. But it depends on where, where people are. And also, this treatment is not done, isn't, uh, FDA approved in the United States.

So, people have to go abroad. I, I have like, let's see. I mean, it's, it's certainly not like widely, it's not a super popular thing that people are doing because of the cost and the limited locations to have it done.

But there has been over 70,000 treatments that have been done so far. Yeah, exactly. 20 years, but I think it's like because it's so expensive. It is $6,000 CHF to get it done and then another 500 to get the toxin bag.

For something that's not medically emergent, that's a very expensive.

But I did ask, voluntary thing to do. I'm like, "Okay, so like, why do people mostly do this? Is it preventative or is it because it's being, you know, like they had something wrong, then they're going to do something?" And mo, like the vast majority of time, it's people, something's gone wrong and so they have to, they're, they're, uh, they're doing it after the fact, you know, instead of being proactive. I think that's really important and that's like one of the things that I, I want to teach people is like, you know, you may think you're healthy right now. You may think you're like doing a great job and you know, you're kicking butt and you're feeling great, just like I felt great, you know, and then I'm, you know, got a tumor. What the heck?

So, and I, I was doing ice baths, saunas, like all this stuff. But when I,

to be fair to you, Toby, you were doing great. You were not fully 100% optimized for like,

you know, superhuman, whatever.

Yeah.

But you were like, you were for your age, what you were doing physically, how you looked.

But I was still a bit chubby. I had man boobs. I mean, you knew that like we show.

You were far from obese. You had a slight layer over your muscles.

Sure. But now,

now you have like no body fat.

Okay. Yeah. Well, it's no inflammation, pretty much.

Let's not lose that muscle mass. That's what I'm saying.

Okay.

But, okay, so it's $6,500 altogether at AUS.group.

Um,

and they are really good. You know, it takes about a month, just over a month to get back your toxin test back.

Oh, they also like advise you. They want to know all the supplements you're taking. They'll advise you

on what they think could be good or bad that you're taking, how to take them better, if there's better options out there. That was pretty helpful too.

Yeah. And, and this place actually, uh, every place that wants to do this that's not their group, like there's places in, I'm reading this, Dubai, Spain, the UK, Germany, all these places have to be taught by this group because they're the ones that created it.

So,

any place that hasn't been taught by this group, and I don't know if there's like any other treatment places that are doing this illegally or whatever, or, you know, off doing their own thing. Probably wouldn't,

and you can probably reach out to this clinic and ask them where they recommend.

And we'll leave a, a, uh, link down below for that, that place. Um, but the doctors didn't want to be filmed. So, you know, the footage that we're showing is just because the machine and then Heidi kind of, you know, whispering awkwardly.

But we couldn't show, we couldn't, uh, have our, uh, mic on because the Bluetooth would interact with,

We couldn't have Wi-Fi on our phones either because all sensitive because it's trying to take out heavy metals that it's, it's incredibly sensitive and,

start beeping like crazy.

It would go crazy. Yeah. So, really fascinating stuff and I definitely would recommend it to everyone. I, I would, there's like older people in their 80s and stuff that that go there to do this treatment. Like I'm, I would love my mother who's like 82 years old, you know, that's lived in San Diego her pretty much her whole life and wears tons of like makeup and stuff and toxic.

She has rheumatoid arthritis.

Yeah, she has rheumatoid arthritis. I would love for her to go, but she's doing ozone therapy. I'll cover that as well some other time. But, um, it's been a blessing to be able to do this and to work with this team.

And, um, I'm really interested in seeing like, uh, more like what the results will be the next time I do it.

And, um, cuz,

if it comes back totally clear, are you going to be disappointed?

No, I'll be so happy. I will be so happy if that happens. But I don't think it's going to be, um, I think we're, I'm gonna have still some remnants that hasn't,

toxicity in your life.

Probably. Yeah. So, I have some baggage.

All right. Well, cool. That was all that I had on my checklist of what to talk about. Is there anything else you'd like to cover?

Yeah, I just feel, I feel great, you know? Um, I feel like a, I have a new lease on life. I, I feel, I kept, kept telling all my friends and you like, "Wow, I feel like a teenager how I felt back then." Like, I feel so good and I feel so awake and when I wake up in the morning, I'm like, "All right, let's go. Let's do this."

And I used to take naps.

It used to be 3:00 PM on the dot. Toby was out like a, like for like 20 minutes.

Yeah. Now I couldn't take a nap if my life depended on it. It's just because my body is working so well now and I just want to keep it up and I want to explore new, uh, forms of, you know, treatments, especially like peptides and stuff. I'll eventually get into that. Uh, that's, I haven't done it yet, but I'm learning more about it and I'm in touch with some professionals that are going to help me out with that stuff. So I'll be, I would love to share this with people. So, you know, people are probably probably struggling somehow. If they are, then this could be an incredible treatment for them.

Yeah. It, it's an investment, but it's an investment in your health and it might be far cheaper to do this now than,

some crazy medical thing that might happen in the future from your,

Yeah.

exposure to toxins for such a long time.

Yeah. And, and so I'll cover, we'll cover in other videos for people that can't afford, you know, something like like you need feresis, there's other treatments that you can do that are much cheaper that you can get a really great result as well. So, yeah, cover that as well.

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