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Let's rank a whole bunch of tight ends. I mean, it feels like every single year we can have a massive discussion about this position, not just in fantasy, but real football. I mean, it's a massive impact across the league right now. You saw that in free agency. The draft really bore that out. I mean, we might be talking about eight teams last season being very comfortable using two and three tight end sets to what half the league, 20 teams at this point after all these teams added new players to the roster. So, just a big picture question here. Does that alter your approach to drafting this position this year?
It does. We have some rookies that are going to get involved here, which is going to increase just like the personnel stuff. I think what ends up happening is just like the wide receivers and like the middle part of the fantasy drafts, just project worse. That all of a sudden, like you're looking at a tight end projection and a wide receiver projection in round 10, and it's like, oh, like the tight end's like gonna have more yards this year. So I think that's where it comes. It's like at the expense, not that a bunch of tight ends are like scoring more points by themselves. It's more just that the other positions are now hurt because the tight end two on a team is scoring at the expense of the wide receiver three on a team. So I think that those are kind of minor adjustments. I felt and I think also for this year, a lot of really, really good promising young tight ends about to break out. So we've kind of gone away from the Kelsey and Kittle's finally after like what, a full decade of those guys. Now we got the next tier: Bowers, McBride, uh, Hockenson, some others. Um, and I'm pretty excited about those guys. Yeah, but the Kittle, Kelsey's, let's use the word, they're holding on definitely around, you know, tight end nine to tight end 12 territory. We'll talk about them today.
Yeah, just from a strategy perspective, I look back at how I drafted this position last year. And if I didn't get, you know, Trey McBride and George Kittle in like that round two through four territory, then I was willing to wait on, you know, Tyler Higbee, who's being drafted as tight end seven, or Tucker Kraft, being drafted as tight end 11. And I missed out on all of those. Then you and I, especially from a baseball perspective, really love to draft Franken-sign the position anywhere from, you know, round 14 through round 18, drafting three of those guys and just hoping for touchdowns because that matters so much for the spot. I've been doing that kind of more and more this year. I don't love all these late round tight ends like I did last offseason. So, we'll definitely talk about that throughout the summer and obviously in this episode, too.
Yeah. On that, I'm doing something I've never really done before. I like two tight ends, not all the way early, but this late round tight end strategy that I've adopted for the literally the last five years of doing the show with you, right? This is the first year where I feel really good about like the top nine tight ends and I'm just kind of getting two of those guys and then kind of stopping there, sometimes adding on a third tight end. But just all these young guys like Kyle Pitts, like all these guys in the top 10 that we'll talk about today, they have tons of upside and right now their price tag isn't isn't too crazy. This is going to be a conversation all summer. You know, heavy personnel looks and it's not just tight ends, it's fullbacks on the field, too. So, buckle in. We'll talk about it again all summer long. Okay, let's rank these guys.
Your tight end one this year is Brock Bowers with Kellen Moore being his new play caller with the Dallas Cowboys. Just how high is his ceiling this year?
I think that he can threaten for the tight end's target record. I feel like we're having like these crazy upside cases with him. Like we just saw this with obviously Jaylen Jaylen Wright with this OC. It's not going to be just as clean as that was for JSN last year, but Brock Bowers, we know he's amazing. He is one of the best tight end prospects ever. And then through the first two seasons here, he's averaging 64 yards per game despite having an entire season where he's battling that crazy knee injury. That's the most yards per game of any tight end in the first two seasons since at least 2000. The five closest comps for them are Kittle, Hockenson, Gronk, Jimmy Graham, Aaron Hernandez. All five of those guys had a better third season than their first two seasons. And then if you go all the way down to the 13th closest comparisons, you're adding like seven yards per game in that third season. So Brock Bowers, I think baseline assumption here is like 70, 80 yards per game here. He's going to be a target hog. They got worse at wide receiver. The defense is still mediocre. And then the quarterback play is obviously way better. Kellen Moore is going to be way better than Chip Kelly. So, I have no bad things to say about Brock Bowers right now.
Yeah, typically we quickly go through these top names. I feel like it's really important to go in depth on these top names at tight end because you're selecting them around wide receivers and running backs. And Brock Bowers is going later than he did this time last year. I mean, he was what the around 18th, 17th overall pick this time, maybe even 15th in some drafts. Right now on Underdog, he's the 21st overall player. And that's after, you know, the second best tight end fantasy rookie season of all time. We know last season early on he just got injured. He got banged up and that carried with him all season long on a miserable offense that didn't know who they were and fired their offensive coordinator. And now we're coming from a play caller in Kellen Moore that just jettisoned Jaylen Wright to one of the elite receiving options across the league. You look at the wide receiver room in Dallas and I can't tell you if one of those guys is going to make that significant jump and you ask yourself who the best pass catcher is in this offense and it is Brock Bowers and that's associated to Dak Prescott who again launched Kyle Pitts into top tight end status in multiple games last year. Uh and then Drake London is just the number one overall pick. So Brock Bowers, I am perfectly happy to actually take him a couple spots ahead of ADP this year if I feel like.
Yeah, we're we're on the same page here right now. I feel like the Underdog projections, they have season long projections right now, feel a little light. He's at 899 receiving yards, five and a half touchdowns. Obviously, when you're dealing with the Cowboys, they're projected for like no points this year, like bottom five as expected. Uh but I think Brock Bowers is just going to rack up these receptions like the entire season long. It's going to get crazy here. So, I think anywhere in the second round is totally fine with me. As with all these guys, in full PPR redraft where you're forced to pick the tight ends, they're even more valuable than in best ball where tight ends are going up and down just based off of touchdowns where you just want to ride the wave of best ball and season long redraft. I mean, Brock Bowers could be the 12th overall pick. I wouldn't blink an eye at it.
I think he also has the best potential to reach a 20 or 30 point game than almost any other tight end that we're about to talk about here. Okay, let's get to your tight end two and that is Trey McBride with the Arizona Cardinals. Ran 121 more routes than the next closest tight end last year. We know when Kyler Murray exited the starting lineup, the red zone, the end zone really opened up. Uh I think there's a conversation to be had about Trey McBride because he was the tight end one overall last year and now being drafted as the tight end two around 24th or 25th overall.
I mean, he smashed last year. It was like nobody was even close. Even Brock Bowers was in a different tier than Trey McBride. That's 14.9 points per game. 73 yards per game, which is pretty much the same thing I'm kind of expecting Brock Bowers to have this season. He was 19th overall in fantasy points over expectation per game in half PPR. In full PPR, he was worth a first round pick this last season. Now, uh I understand the splits with Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield. That's 81 yards per game with Baker, 55 yards per game with Kyler Murray. By the way, I have an awesome on-off splits on the upcoming website. You guys are going to love it. Um that's where I pulled that information from. But I don't think that the split from Kyler to Baker is immediately just going to copy paste into this next season. We have a new head coach who I think is going to be even more disciplined running the ball, trying to keep a balanced offense. That's even more so when you have Marvin Harrison Jr., the wide receiver being selected third overall. Uh also James Conner was missing time when Trey McBride was really popping off. Uh and he's going into his third season. So, I would not be surprised if last year was the Trey McBride like peak season and then he's going to be like, you know, 10% 20% worse from that. Even if he is that, which is my baseline assumption, two three turn is like totally fine for Trey McBride. So, I think there's uh maybe one tier above that Brock Bowers can reach that Trey McBride can't reach just based off the team environment around him. Uh but I have no bad notes to say about Trey McBride. He's probably my favorite tight end to watch uh just on Sundays.
Sound ridiculous to people. I wish we knew that Baker Mayfield was going to be Trey McBride's quarterback for 17 weeks. Uh cuz I know what that connection is like. I would feel actually a little bit less confident if it's Kyler Murray, Caleb Williams. And I know people don't, you know, picture and assume that Baker Mayfield is a great starting quarterback and they would be correct. But from a fantasy lens, he rifles it in there in tight coverage and he's willing to make big time throws down the field. Now, there's also this conversation last year that it was all garbage time and they were trailing a lot of games. Sure, part of it. I mean, Baker threw 2,300 yards, 13 touchdowns when they were trailing on the scoreboard, but you look at it when they were leading, he also threw 10 touchdowns. Uh, so this connection, I think, is fantastic. When we are recording this, Baker Mayfield is holding out, which is kind of a slap to the face of the Arizona Cardinals when that's your starting quarterback and he's holding out there for more money. But Baker, get your bags, man. And uh we need you to throw many many more touchdowns here for Trey McBride.
Yeah, I think it's a good point talking about the other quarterbacks. Right now Underdog, the pick 'em lobby, Caleb Williams has 4.5 for his higher lower lower on regular season games started. I was not a big fan of the Williams tape watching it reminded me of like the broken down Carson Wentz film. So that's where I think the quarterback play can like take a huge step back this year versus what we had with Trey McBride. While his environment around him, there's even more target competition. So, I think that's why Bowers is ahead of Trey McBride this year.
These two players are about four or five picks difference. Do you think that gap is correct?
I mean, yeah, Bowers is the one that's in front of McBride. That's just like not usually the case. Um, they're they're very close. Like you can make a very strong case either way here. Um, I'm on team Bowers here.
Okay, I bring that up because we're going to keep him in this top tier. Cole Kmet though is your tight end three and in drafts right now over on Underdog, which by the way, you can do all summer long, even at this moment. Click the link in the description and start drafting right now. Uh that's a 20 pick gap. He's being selected around the 46th overall pick. So you and I were big Cole Kmet guys heading into the NFL. We know that he was eased in coming off a labrum surgery until about week seven. But man, from week seven to 17, he was the tight end six in points per game.
He was just so dang good. But it was from yeah, week eight he played 75% snaps for the first time from that point all the way through the NFL playoffs. And I like to count NFL playoff stats because you know these teams are trying to win football games and they're accruing fantasy points. We just don't see him in our fantasy lineups. He averaged 64 yards per game. He was a tight end four per game on tight end three expected fantasy points. His best games were in the playoffs as well. The last four games of the season for him, 97 yards per game. Remember he did that he was 21 years old. 21. I mean, we're talking about a total freakazoid here. He moved like a wide receiver at Michigan and they would like keep him like as a like a legit boundary wide receiver and they would do that at times on the Chicago Bears and he just ran away with it. And then since he had these crazy numbers at the end of the season, you can see that on the chart up there on the top right. You know, the Bears traded away DJ Moore. They replaced him with Keenan Allen. So, Cole's going to get better. Shane Waldron's going to be in the second year in this scheme as well. They drafted Cole Kmet inside the top 10. Uh I want Cole Kmet to lead the Bears in receiving in all categories just like he did this past season. I think that he has a chance to be an All-Pro player as soon as this season.
I'm not mistaken. I believe the team that led the NFL in percent of their snaps in 12 personnel was around 44%. I mean, the drop down from DJ Moore to now Keenan Allen or Rome Odunze as this team's third wide receiver is gigantic, right? So, with how Cole Kmet moves, we talk about, you know, the slot receiver test all the time, the wide receiver test all the time here with tight ends. He passes that with flying colors. And then you add on the fact that they also drafted a tight end on day three for my buddy Ryan Heath, who we'll have on the program this summer. When the Bears had three tight ends on the field last year, Cole Kmet averaged an absurd 4.66 yards per route run and 53% receiving yards market share for his.
Because he's a wide receiver. He's a tight end, but he's actually he's a wide receiver. He would pass the boundary wide receiver test. We don't talk about that one. That's how good he is. So, I guess my question is if people are waiting to draft him until the 46th overall pick, where would you be willing to draft Cole Kmet right now?
Yeah, I think like late round three, early round four is kind of where I have him ranked. Overall, I just wanted to point this out. Underdog projections, he's at 875 yards, 6 and a half touchdowns. By the way, Brock Bowers, who we just like gloat about forever, $8.99, 5.5, almost the exact same projections right now between Bowers, McBride, and Cole Kmet. So, we have this ride that this is a big three. You have to rank Cole Kmet the lowest because he's done it the fewest amount of games. But, it would not be surprised if this year's Trey McBride is a Cole Kmet.
Okay, I might pitch you as the summer goes along to make it a big four tight ends because I think Tyler Higbee is in store for an outstanding season if Daniel Jones makes it to week one through week 18. All right. I mean, he has the sixth most half PPR fantasy points ever by a rookie tight end. He was the tight end three in route participation last year, just around 84%. The final five games, it's also remember or with Riley Leonard and Philip Rivers throwing passes when like Cole Kmet was going off, that's who Tyler Higbee was catching passes from. So he didn't have that same chance of you know really ascending. And then they got rid of Michael Pittman and didn't replace him basically at all. So I think talking about target concentration, Tyler Higbee should only take a step up there in year two.
Yeah, he he looks really good on paper right here and those splits you talked about are just so drastic. So in the first 13 games when Daniel Jones was healthy, he was a tight end six on tight end three usage there, averaging 54 yards per game. After that, it was just 30 yards per game and then even like the the Daniel the end of the Daniel Jones starts when he was dealing with that fractured leg, it fell off there. So if you only looking at like the top like the first what, eight games of the season, he was like one of the guys that you absolutely needed and that's kind of where I have him ranked as like more of like the Daniel Jones stuff. Now, with Jones's injury, it's not just the torn lat. It's also to his back foot. And if you listen to like just player or people associated with the NFL covering injuries, that's the plant foot. And like if your leg doesn't have has some atrophy and it's not as strong, it's going to be a little bit harder to push the ball down the football field. I would expect the Colts to look a lot worse this year. So last year, what they were the best offense through the first eight weeks in like NFL history. And then this year, according to the betting markets, they're 15th in projected points per game, 23. So, I like him. He's got a really high floor. He's got a really high ceiling. I like him a tier below those other guys. I think he doesn't quite move just at the same levels as these top three guys.
He's more of a battering ram, like a bull in a china shop, like and they would give him screens and, you know, he would rumble after the catch with all that stuff. We still getting didn't get his ability as a Wildcat quarterback as often as we might have with other teams that, you know, don't have Daniel Jones and don't have Jonathan Taylor inside the five-yard line.
Look, I had questions about Tyler Higbee translating from Penn State to the NFL, but as soon as we got to like preseason action and definitely early on in the season, I was like, "Okay, I am almost all the way in on him being like a real focal point of this passing game." While they're not going to be the highest scoring offense in the league, and it might be close to the, you know, 15th highest scoring, just getting rid of Michael Pittman in like the same area of where targets are going for the tight end and wide receivers, I think, is a massive difference. And they didn't replace him at all.
Not at all. The defense lost a lot of players. They didn't add anybody on defense really this offseason as well. And then, uh, last note, Alec Pierce was playing through an ankle injury, decided to not have surgery, and then like a couple months into the offseason decided to have ankle surgery, which is like a three-month recovery. It's all within the window of like just it's all offseason stuff, but you don't like three-month recoveries from like the like go-to number one wide receiver in the offense right there. So like if Pierce isn't the same player and Pittman's gone, then all of a sudden like Higbee could be one of these like top three, top four guys. Okay, he's going 20 picks after Cole Kmet and then he's going about 14 picks ahead of the next tight end. So, this is really an interesting position where you might only have one tight end in a single round or every two rounds for example. Um, but we have to skip down because being drafted as a tight end eight, but for you the tight end five is Kyle Pitts still of the Atlanta Falcons playing on the franchise tag. Sell me on this one because I'm still a little bit skeptical here.
He's just healthy. You know, you're not reading about any Kyle Pitts blurbs right now in the offseason that like he's limping around and stuff because we just watched him in the back half of the season go absolutely nuts. Just want to remind people, this was probably the freakiest tight end prospect of all time. You go top five ahead of Ja'Marr Chase, like there's some untapped ceiling here and we saw it at the end of the season when Drake London missed. He went crazy. He averaged 84 yards in the five games without Drake London. Um, and they just didn't really add anybody to the wide receiver group behind Drake London. So, it's Bijan, Pitts, and London. That's it. If something happens to Bijan or to London, Kyle Pitts is going to go crazy. I think Kirk Cousins getting in there for Kirk Cousins, I'm like largely calling the quarterback play a wash. I like Kevin Stefanski, especially for tight ends, just looking at the history with Fannon and David Njoku. And he's just he's 25 years old and healthy and like would it be the craziest thing ever if Kyle Pitts had like 1100 yards or something crazy like that? I I don't think it would be that out of balance, just like you want to take the zoomed out view of like this guy was supposed to be an All-Pro caliber player. We saw it in flashes this last season. What if he puts it all together and like this could be the year under a new coaching staff to do it? I guess my hesitation is when he really broke out last year, it was in an offense that they don't want to be in.
2026. You know, it was without Drake London. I mean, he missed three in three of the four games that Drake London missed, Kyle Pitts was the tight end six, seven, and one overall. That was also with Kirk Cousins, who played better, I think, than Michael Penix did last year. I think he played better than Tua did last year. Yeah, for example, um, like opening 10 games, Kyle Pitts averaging 4.7 catches for 43 yards, just one touchdown on top of that. Totally with you. Kevin Stefanski, we also used to talk about with, you know, Drew Brees and Trey McBride, that he builds his offenses around tight ends and actually gives him a lot of gimmies. Like we're going to talk about Dalton Kincaid here in a moment and he got a ton of gimmies last year and that's what you want, the zero to nine yard range and that has been kind of the issue for Kyle Pitts in the past that everything was more intermediate and downfield. So, if that changes, yeah, the volume certainly will change on top of it. Uh, it's also in the back of my head that apparently they were willing to move him during the offseason, too, after, you know, placing the franchise tag.
Yeah, there's a lot to hit on that you just you talked about. I think that the exciting part is the underneath stuff because he's kind of been operating almost like as like a deep target, like almost like a wide receiver. And I thought last year his agility came back. There was times from like the last two, two or three seasons he like couldn't turn left because he had that big brace on. Just looked so awkward. I thought last year he actually showed some nimbleness and some more explosiveness. And if we get a full offseason where he's not rehabbing as much and he's like back to like full speed, we're talking about like a 6'6 guy that's as fast as anybody on the football field. And if he's got the agility back, then I think that you can do some choice routes, some leak routes, just hit him in the flats and screens and stuff. And we've never seen that from Kyle Pitts. And nothing about this last season was outlier based. Like all the efficiency stats like yards after the catch, touchdown rate, all normal. The only thing that changed is he just got more targets and I think that's a good sign.
You must be ending up with a lot of Kyle Pitts in your drafts right now because again, he's being selected as the tight end eight and you have him as the tight end five. By the way, you can draft right now. Also, you can subscribe to the channel right now. It's totally free to you. Uh I would love if somehow someway we would get to 200,000 subscribers before the season starts. That would be simply incredible. So help us get there. We love every single one of you that hits that subscribe button. Again, totally free to all of you. Okay, next up is Sam LaPorta as your tight end six. Um, he's being selected 98th overall, so inside of the top 100. Uh, he was, I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, the tight end one in drafts last year after being the tight end one during his rookie season. He hurt was that did I?
That was two years ago. Time flies. Yeah, time flies. That was two years ago. That was that was a tough year for early round tight end when we were like really trying to get some guys going. Last year we had McBride versus Bowers. It was legit. We did. We did. Yeah, it was two years ago. Wow. Okay. Anyways, herniated disc last year. Upside though was still there when he was on the field. I mean, he was a top six tight end in four of the nine games that he played. And he does get, let's say tight end whisperer coming that from that Stefanski tree now with Drew Petzing as his offensive coordinator.
Yeah, that's that's a great note. I didn't even have that written down there, but that's that just makes me even more bullish. I like Sam LaPorta at cost. I I really do. He's in the prime of his career. We know that he's really good. He was second in success rate on his targets last year, fourth in EPA per target, fifth in yards per target. Um he's really good after the catch and he gets open and he's a consistent player. The only issue is he doesn't get targets like the other guys because of the offense. Now you kind of look at that too. Yeah, exactly. Uh the the only difference here though is if Amon-Ra St. Brown gets injured at any point, LaPorta is going to go to the absolute moon. We have not seen that before. Like this is like when Kyle Pitts goes crazy, it's because they're so locked in on one wide receiver that the tight end, if that receiver misses time, is going to go absolutely crazy. So I think that the Lions still project really, really well. I think that they're second and third or they're third in projected points looking at the betting lines right now. And I know LaPorta is a good football player and he's kind of being priced at where he was a season ago when he was dealing with Jahmyr Gibbs and Amon-Ra. All those guys were healthy in the first 10 weeks of the season. Like what happens if you like take one of those guys out of the offense? So like I'll take him where his baseline projection is. He's not going to go lower than that in the prime of his career. He's only going to go up from there. So I think there's an arbitrage opportunity here. Yeah, I'm sure we'll talk about this at some point this summer, but there are some on-off splits with him and Jameson Williams where they rarely both have a really good game. It's one or the other. So we'll see. I mean, again, Drew Petzing loves these types of guys.
Yes, he does. So, I'm in on Sam LaPorta this year if healthy. Next is Tucker Kraft as your tight end seven. Is he the best yards after catch tight end in the NFL?
I mean, if you're looking at the charts I was posting on to Twitter, there's no question about it. Now, he he gets blessed with LaFleur leaking him out where there's nobody by him. And to his credit, for somebody that's what, 6'5, 259, just runs fast, every single pain in the ass to tackle. So, he's one of my favorite tight ends to watch. He's an excellent blocker as well. So, it just comes down to when is he going to be healthy? So, he tore his ACL in week nine last year. It was just an ACL tear, no MCL, meniscus, nothing like that. He's right on schedule according to LaFleur. And if you do the math of like what's a little bit over nine months from his ACL tear, it's right around late August, week one. I think the baseline assumption here is he's going to be available for week one. He's not going to be the same player in week one. He probably won't be the same player until Halloween or later. But this guy rules, the Packers rule. And I have a lot of faith that LaFleur wants to get Kraft involved. And it's kind of helpful that Wix is gone, Dobbs is gone. They're only focused on the the guys they want to get the football to. So, I think it's going to take some time here and I I want to keep every single week where there's no news negatively on his return, I'm going to move him up two spots overall in my rankings until we get to August.
He does rule. That's just a great descriptor for him because like you get this downfield push with this passing game with the ambitious passer that Jordan Love is to Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs. And that just gives Tucker Kraft to like chip and release and gets room to rumble after the catch underneath. And I mean, he just no matter if you're small or big, he either runs around you or runs through you. Um, and yeah, if you think the ACL is going to heal near 100%, the season's very long and this is an incredible discount. I mean, weeks one through eight when he was healthy, that was 14 half PPR points per game. That would have been just behind Trey McBride and good enough for the tight end two overall last season. So, I'm really hoping we get the same Tucker Kraft as we previously did. I will say he is like the most obvious negative like regression candidate on some of these stats. But that's because he's he's so dang good. He did lead the position with plus .91 EPA per target. And the craziest thing is his average depth of target was four and a half yards down the football field. His average yards per target was 11. How do you average over 11 when your ADOT is four? Like that that means you are doing crazy things down the football field after the catch, which is usually not sustainable. So I think if you start regressing some of that, this is where he belongs. But like this is why I like this tier. Like we haven't said pretty much any negative notes like on any of these guys. All these guys what, like 22 to to 27 years old? Like I want to double down on this tier.
Here's another one even younger than that. Dalton Kincaid is your tight end eight. Unfortunately, Hayden, he's being selected as tight end six. So, do you hate when this happens where you love a player, you love a prospect, and yet the public in your eyes overdrafts him, so you have to be lower on him than consensus?
I'll still mix him in. Uh, he's not my favorite click on the board. I don't think he's a bad click either, though. Like, I have him ranked overall, like kind of where his ADP is in general. Um, you're right though. I loved him as a prospect. I went back to my scouting report and the first line I wrote is, "This profile feels too good to be true." And then like everything translated after the catch was fantastic. You can scheme him up. Uh, the problem is he was fourth in targets per game last year. But it was a 42% success rate because of Drake Maye and Drake London. Is Deshaun Watson going to be the savior here? I'm I'm not sure about this. It's going to be the same quarterback problems as we had last year. It's going to be the same offensive line problems. They have five new starters. Are any of them actually really good? We'll have to find out. I have my doubts about that. And then on top of that, Todd Monkin, I like appreciate what he's doing, but he is pretty dang run-focused here in like a a hardo in ways that I I get a little bit nervous if they're actually going to let a 240-pound tight end like Dalton Kincaid an every-down player in the Todd Monkin offense. I think I think that's what's going to happen, but this is the first player where I have my doubts like maybe we can start like regressing some of these things down. But at the same time, you just looked at their depth chart. I feel like he has to be an every-down player. I mean, have you looked at our lads? It's Jake Ferguson, it's Cole Kmet, it's Hunter Henry.
I mean, he has to be an every tight end here. And Todd Monkin loves his multiple personnel groupings. What kind of multiple personnel groupings can you have here? Like, Michael Burton might play some fullback, so you might have some 21 personnel, but I think it's going to be less, you know, 12 and 13 stuff out here. Kincaid's an interesting one because he had the third most short targets of all tight ends last year. Zero to nine yards. 79 targets, nine yards and shorter versus 24 10 plus yards. I think that his ADOT is going to increase here with Todd Monkin. Um, it was at six yards last year. If you look at Isaiah Likely and Mark Andrews, and granted Lamar Jackson, but even like Tyler Huntley and other guys were throwing passes, those guys were at eight yards. So like a plus two yard ADOT difference does translate into maybe less efficiency in terms of hey catch rate, but maybe more intermediate targets down the field too.
I hope so. I mean, and there's always a chance it's a low chance that like Deshaun Watson is just a much better quarterback than what they had last year. I'm not saying a whole lot, like he's not going to go back to the MVP stuff, but could he be a better quarterback than what the Browns collectively had last year? I think that's like still like somewhat likely here. Yeah, I I think Kincaid's an exceptional football player. It's just, you know, it's the same time. It's it's the Cleveland Browns here. Uh, I did find it interesting. He had 731 yards as a 21-year-old rookie last year. Right now in the pick lobby on Underdog, he projects for 724 yards. So I think that we're not expecting a huge jump from him because he's already so good. And then on top of that, we both love Xavier Worthy, the first round wide receiver. They go get another wide receiver, Adonai Mitchell, in the second round. That probably cancels out the David Njoku loss here. I'm okay like just copy pasting what happened last year for Dalton Kincaid and then in half PPR he kind of checks out right here. I have I have no issues with that.
You have officially been Don Concincaid pilled. He finished last year as around like the tight end 12 in points per game. It depends on if you count certain guys eight game samples, six game samples, all this type of stuff. The knee injury really slowed him down, but again, he's being drafted right now as the tight end 13. However, he is your tight end nine. Uh, we talk about tight ends needing to stay on the field. He has still failed to do that. Not one game over 55% of snaps last year. So why is he tight end nine?
Well, he plays on the Buffalo Bills. Uh, and he is really good when he gets the ball thrown his way. And then whenever he's on the football field, they tend to throw him the ball immediately like on a per route basis. Like Kincaid is like almost in his own tier from everybody else in the league. Obviously, we should expect that because his routes are down. But I feel pretty good that Dalton Kincaid is a good receiver. He was probably shouldn't have been the what, the 25th overall pick in the draft, but he's a good wide receiver attached to Josh Allen here. And then if you do include the postseason games there, he was the tight end nine on a per game basis last year despite dealing with the injury. So I think he goes into the next season of his career and now we're like fully in his prime. Obviously, Curtis Samuel being involved is bad news for Dalton Kincaid. So I'm not expecting some breakout here. Like he has to be really efficient to be kind of a low-end tight end one. I feel pretty comfortable that just like, you know, a really good receiving tight end attached to Josh Allen's going to usually just be pretty efficient. I find it hard for him to like go much higher than this, though. So, I I do think we have this right where it is a this was the tier break.
If Dawson Knox and Dalton Kincaid stay healthy, he's going to be stuck around that 60% mark at best in terms of snaps overall. Um, but who knows? Maybe things change. Like it does take these tight ends a little bit of time and maybe he is among those if ever he can graduate. But I I kind of feel like the Buffalo Bills when keeping Joe Brady want to utilize him in this specific way. It does.
All right. Travis Kelce is next. Formerly of the first round draft picks. Now you can draft tight end Travis Kelce at 124 overall. So what are you expecting here when we mention that often times when you already can kind of start seeing the cliff, it is right around the corner. The decline has been on like a per route basis and efficiency numbers.
Yes, it has been happening in real life for Kelce over the last two seasons.
It has. And then I go back and hit the refresh. There's 14 games with Patrick Mahomes. Kelce was a tight end six in full PPR, tight end five in receptions, tight end three in receiving yards on a per game basis. He was second in success rate on his target. So like I kind of think who knows what happens though, Hayden.
I kind of think like Rashee Rice not being on the field and these guys kind of eat from each other because it's in the same section of where a target is going to go.
Well, I mean, let's talk about Rashee Rice for a second just before we press record here. Like this guy's going to be spending a month behind bars here. Your guy can't stay out of trouble. This is like one of these things where as we get closer to the season, I feel more and more sure that Patrick Mahomes is going to be out there for week one. To the fact after the schedule release, one of my biggest notes from the schedule release is week one Chiefs Monday Night Football. Week two Chiefs, Sunday Night Football. Like somebody's telling the NFL that Patrick Mahomes is going to be out there. Watch Patrick Mahomes swing a golf club. It looked clean out there, too. So, I'm expecting these guys to get back to where it was this last season where in full PPR he's going to catch a bunch of passes that they really didn't add anybody to the wide receiver or tight end room. So like he doesn't have to match last season. Like he can take another step down and pay this price tag off. So I think early on I feel comfortable with him.
Okay. Dallas Goedert is your tight end 11. The fewest receptions per game for him since 2021. Fewest yards per game since 2019, but then you score 11 touchdowns, and that's just incredible deodorant for any type of, you know, counting stat that you want on there. I mean, on 15 targets inside the red zone, he scored 10 touchdowns.
I don't think you can keep that up, but when you trade away AJ Brown, which in a month they might, probably will, those receiving yards and receptions could certainly jump up without AJ Brown out there on the field. Yeah, he's just been so consistent on these, his receiving yards and receptions per game. So, it's seven straight seasons where he's been between 3.7 and 4.6 receptions per game. He hit that obviously last year as well. Do you remember how he got those tight those touchdowns though? They were doing like like variants of like the tush push where like Jalen Hurts would get under center and they would just like toss the ball out to God and then he'd score.
That's where it's like that's just not gonna repeat. Like that was fancy boy cool stuff. Catch him off guard, score touchdowns his last season, and then every team's going to be prepared for that this offseason. So like it was easily his most touchdowns ever. That's going to come back. If you do just regress it to his like baseline touchdown rate, he was like the tight end 10, tight end 12 this last season. I expect largely to be the same. I will say with Goedert, I did also notice that his game was just like not quite as clean on tape, especially as a run blocker. He was terrible as a run blocker this last season. So sometimes like that's a sign that he wasn't he was dealing with some like undisclosed injuries or just that like damn, like my back is starting to hurt. I've been blocking guys for for 10 years now. Um, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's just like even with AJ Brown out of the way that in comes A.J. Brown, in comes DeVonta Smith, and it's just like more or less the same for Dallas.
Yeah. And while Smith has a long way to go as an every-down run blocker, uh, this is probably the most, you know, receiving competition from a quote unquote tight end position that Dallas Goedert has ever had here with the Eagles.
Yeah. But we'll talk about Jalen Hurts in the new offense with Kellen Moore uh later on this week, but it it should largely kind of be the same to me.
Jake Ferguson of the Dallas Cowboys is your tight end 12. Um, there are some major on-off splits with he and CeeDee Lamb. It's always in my mind that hey, when CeeDee Lamb's on the field, you get those seam passes from the slot from Dak Prescott. When he's out of the lineup, then you get Jake Ferguson on the same seam passes down the middle of the field. So, he's such a fascinating player because he always winds up in fantasy relevance for like a long stretch of the season and then it feels like other portions he is just totally quiet and you don't want him at all. Yeah, he was only averaging uh 4.3 receptions and 33 yards when CeeDee Lamb was healthy next to George Pickens. And what you noticed was where he's being targeted on the football field has changed. Now you have two alpha wide receivers, especially with George Pickens. Like when Dak Prescott wants to throw the ball down the field, he's got two wide receivers to do it. And that means that Jake Ferguson's now only pretty much a checkdown option. And those just little checkdowns are just like not worth nearly as much. There's like way less chance of an explosive play like on a checkdown or a little sit route. And that's where Jake Ferguson was getting targeted this last year. So his ADOT was 50th out of 58 qualifiers last year. And like that just makes sense to me schematically that we appreciate Ferguson's just like ability to sit in zone coverage, but like I I think that we have
To have an injury for him to like show any pop. So he's might like he's got the most upside for like a tight end, too. But this is where I think the floor is starting to get pretty wonky.
>> Okay. You are below market on George K.D. being drafted as a tight end nine. Uh, he's your tight end 13. I'm assuming the postseason Achilles injury is the main thing that's keeping him down for you.
>> Yeah, just he's older and you have an injury that I think that he's got a chance to be ready for week one. The 49ers are always like, "Hey, we're hopeful he's going to be out there for week one." And you just like you just never know. Um, so he's going to be 32, torn Achilles. I just don't like that they claim that the part of the Achilles I was torn is a better spot to I mean, it's like, okay, like they're, they're very optimistic, um, as they should be. But you know, there's there's a lot of, you know, target competition and the age stuff. So I hope to like have some reports on like, you know, July 30th and then I think we'll have a better discussion about this one.
>> I'm drafting a lot of George K.D. right now. I don't know if that's fortunately or unfortunately. Uh, he's going right around that 11, 12 turn. So to again, Dr. Frankenstein, the position with late round tight ends, getting three from round 12 through round 18. He is one of those names that I'm loading up on. Uh, I like it. Maybe not necessarily early in the season, but for later in the season.
Mark Andrews is next for you as tight end 14.
>> Uh, we talked about with Todd Monken and this Ravens offense. Previously, they've been loaded with tight ends and then they all left in Isaiah Likely and Charlie Kolar. So, right now it's Mark Andrews, Durham Smythe, and they drafted two and Matt Hibner in the fourth round, then Josh Quavvis in the fifth round. So, the shocking contract extension that he got last year, should that carry over into fantasy production in 2026?
>> I still can't believe that contract. It came out of nowhere. Um, and they let obviously they let uh Likely leave here. Yeah. New coaching staff on top of it. Menter is going to control the defense there. It should be a good defense there. And then we'll see about the uh offensive line. There's just like still like just not enough skilled talent for Lamar Jackson here. So, I think Mark Andrews like could he, you know, average 40 yards per game and score 10 touchdowns this year? Like I, I can see that being the case. I will say this on film, it just has not looked the same like the last what, twoish years um since that injury uh versus before that. Did not have a good uh ending of the season this last year. He's 30 years old, but he's played a lot of football, dealt with a lot of injuries over those uh 30 years as well. So, yeah, he looks pretty similar to Ferguson, K.D., Andrews where you're on good offenses. Same thing with Goddard. Um, good offenses, decent enough player here, but like he's never going to average six receptions per game again.
>> I mean, those 2024 numbers where he scored 11 touchdowns on basically 11 endzone targets were ridiculous. And Todd Monken basically built their red zone offense around Mark Andrews. I mean, he was still fourth among all tight ends and endzone targets last year with 10. Uh, I'm not sure if Delin Doyle is going to do the same thing when they actually throw the ball in that area. But again, on paper, he has less target competition now that Isaiah Likely and just from a personnel grouping stuff like Patrick Card is also gone and Charlie Kohler is also gone.
>> Yep. They need him. They need him bad.
>> Next for you, Isaiah Likely. Speaking of New York Giants, uh, how often do you expect him to be on the field? Because uh, he and Theo Johnson, uh, are built different despite being at the same position?
>> Yeah, Likely they signed him to a decent contract here to to catch the football. So, I think it's almost the exact same role. Obviously, Harbaugh's familiar with Likely, so that they brought him in. Um, I did move him up recently because like the more you read about the Malik Neighbor stuff, the more you feel good about Isaiah Likely specifically in like a redraft. Like let's say like I think Likely plus K.D. is a good pairing. You get Isaiah Likely for the first uh month of the season, then as K.D. uh comes back to full health and Malik Neighbors comes back to the football field, then you can drop one for the other. So, Malik Neighbors, he had a setback or not, shouldn't say a setback. He just had to have a second surgery. Maybe a setback.
>> Kind of sounds like a setback a little bit.
>> Yeah. Didn't have full range of motion. Had to get in there, scrape some stuff off of his knee, uh, so he can get back to the football field. I think the expectation now is like pretty likely he's missing the first four weeks, going to start the season PUP, and then it's week five to week eight is kind of like the comfort zone when Malik Neighbor's going to come back at that point. So, I mean, we're talking about Darnell Mooney and my guy Darius Slayton, who's no longer my guy after what he did this last season, uh, as the top target getters on the Giants. By the way, Cam Scout, who got all the targets and carries, he's coming off of a dislocated, uh, ankle on top of it. So like week one projections are going to get here and we're going to be talking about Isaiah Likely as like the tight end nine.
>> Because the tight end room is Likely, Theo Johnson, and Chris Manher is still there too, who is one of the best pure blockers. So they could be one of these 13 personnel teams quite early on. Um, obviously Matt Nagy coming from the Kansas City Chiefs, they would run uh a decently high rate of 13 personnel when compared across the league.
>> All right, next up, Aronda Gadston. So, we're kind of in this territory. And by the way, he's your tight end 16. So, he closes out this tier where if you look at Concade at the front to Gadston at the end, um, you just question how much they're going to be on the field. Now, with Gadston, this offseason could have gone in numerous different directions. Like, if the Chargers didn't add Aronda Gadston, then excuse me, if the Chargers didn't add Charlie Kolar, then Aronda Gatson might be like the tight end nine on paper here. And then they didn't stop there. They also last week added David and Jooku. So the sky is falling in Aronda Gadston corner right now.
>> Then they also add Katon Mitchell. They add Brennan Thompson, a wide receiver that I liked. There's just like more depth with the Chargers skill group. Uh, that said, the offensive line looks pretty dang impressive and that was like the actual like root cause of all their problems this last season. So like the Chargers offense should project better in 2026 than where they finished last year. I think Gadston's like, he's got the the skills that we're looking for. Like he's he's one of these guys that can just move really well. He's not doesn't move quite like a wide receiver, but he dang played wide receiver at at Syracuse and then uh had some really nice moments in the red area, like choice routes, those type of things. Uh, he's just going to get subbed off the football field uh this year. Like there's no question about that. Um, and then with uh the McDaniel offense, it's typically hasn't been very tight end focused just over the years now. Like that's mostly because like the personnel that they had, but there's some history there. Um, so I think he just got shoved into a part-time role that's
>> ultimately not that fun. Like the last four games of the season, he was the tight end 35 and that's when, you know, the entire offense was like back to full health at wide receiver and like he just didn't have the same moment. So I have him in a dynasty league and I really wanted him to be just like my saving grace and just like I don't think it's going to happen right now. And unfortunately, they wouldn't have made these moves unless Mike McDaniel wanted them to. You know, like Mike McDaniel has had Mike Cassicki in the past. Last season, he had Darren Waller, but he wants heavier inline guys. And just I'm sure he watched the tape and McDaniel loves running the ball. And when Gatson was on the field, the Chargers only ran the ball 30% of the time. So, yep,
>> I think we're going to see some spike weeks out here. And again, the offseason could have gone a different direction, but the one that we're headed in, it just feels like Gatson's going to be stuck in that like 40 to 50% snap range.
>> I think like just right now, like just going through this, I would move him down to the next tier. Just
>> Okay.
>> start there. And we might find some guys that we like more just talking through this.
Hunter Henry is next. Uh, he is still a New England Patriot. Uh, the New England Patriots, shockingly to me, continue to not overly invest in the tight end position. Uh, they did take Eli Raridan in round three. Uh, but they are also coming off a season where they ran a ton of 12 personnel looks with Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper. So Hunter Henry's role is largely unchanged here.
>> Yeah, I think largely unchanged. Obviously the exception to that is like when you get AJ Brown and Romeo Dobs in there, like there's just a lot more target competition and now he's going to be he's 31 right now. So like we're into the
>> the part of his career where it's we're going to start noticing his uh games declining. At the same time, Drake May is awesome. Uh, he's probably not going to have the same season that he had this last year where his I was looking at his completion percentage over expected for Drake May and it was like by far number one in the league. Like it wasn't even close. Like from one to two was a ginormous difference. So, you start regressing the Patriots stuff a little bit there and then all these other factors. Hunter Henry is fine in baseball. He's going to score six touchdowns this year. Uh, and we will be able to use those weeks. It'll be very hard to predict in the season. So, I think that he's going to be a waiver wire guy. Char or the Patriots are projected for 26 points this week. Hunter Henry's available. Let's throw him in there and pray. Uh, you can't really see a ceiling beyond that.
>> Okay, I'm going to speed along here because we don't want the show to be an hour. Uh, next is kind of this grouping of Brenton Strange, Jawan Johnson, and AJ Barner. Of the Jaguars, of the Saints, and of Seattle. You know me, I love myself some AJ Barner. We're gonna in about a month uh talk about second-year tight ends. For me, he was like the second-year tight end breakout that I didn't realize until I watched that show when everyone was getting very excited about Elijah Royo. I was saying, "Hey, AJ Barner's not coming off the field." And he is the prime example of if you are a very good blocker with some decent receiving chops, you have a great chance and a good offense of just simply scoring touchdowns because you're on the field. And because of that, he was fantasy relevant for a lot of people as an 18th round selection.
>> Yeah, I'm starting to write my notes for just the the draft guide and my first line is as a 23-year-old, Barner played 95 and 90% of the Seahawks snaps in the championship and then in the Super Bowl. Like this is how you draw it up, you know? He's 6'6", 251 pounds. He's one of the best blockers. He's got some YAC appeal. And then also note, I think the Seahawks are going to pass the ball like in more attempts this year just because they're probably not going to be blowing teams out like in the same way that they were last year. Uh, they're probably not going to score as many points. There's a little give and take there. There's just like not a proven established target getter beyond JSN. Like we like Rasheed Shaheed, but it was not the smoothest uh campaign with the Seahawks in terms of volume. And then same thing with Cooper Kupp and he's another year older. So like he's one of these guys. Something happens to JSN, I mean Barner's going to be a stud. So, I would put him at the top of this tier. Um, I know he's a good football player. I know the Seahawks offense is going to be pretty good. So, um, I think Barner's like the sleeper of 2026 at this position.
>> All right, I have something to admit. After a number of drafts that are being completed at this point, Chigo Quano is somehow my highest drafted player. All right.
>> Really?
>> Maybe I'm an idiot, but like 13th, 14th round, Chigo Quano perfectly fits now as a Washington Commander to me in this Dr. Frankenstein three tight end build. Uh, David Blau, now his play caller coming from the Lions where you know he was in offensive meetings with Ben Johnson, threw passes I'm sure to Sam LaPorta during practice. This is what I always talk about, second team, second contract, athletic tight end uh on an offense with very uncertain target competition after Terry McLaurin. So I think the pathway is there to maybe even being like the second target getter on this offense. There's also a pathway where John Bates just totally blocks him from being, you know, a 70% snap player.
>> I think you're looking at like a, you know, tear down from the Dalton Concade and Isaiah Likely stuff that we're talking about. I think there's a chance that Chigo Quano shows a little bit more here just because he has a much better offense. Uh, to your point, like they just have nobody behind Terry McLaurin at this point. So, and even if it is Brandon Aiyuk on September 1st, where it like literally might be September 1st, I don't even know how to like factor that in. So, he's one of these guys where he can just look up and be like, "Hey, he's tight end two on a team that's functional or the number two target on a team that's pretty functional." Like, that's that's what a tight end two looks like. Especially for like full PPR waiver wire stuff. Like, we're going to say Chigo Quano's name probably a lot um this summer.
Okay, Kenyan Drake is your tight end 22. Was just drafted by the New York Jets in the first round, but the community out there is drafting him as the tight end 17 right now. So, what are your reservations?
>> Well, I had some reservations on Drake's profile um before the draft. I thought that he's kind of in development with this like zone feel. I thought that he didn't catch everything super clean. I fully acknowledge how explosive he is in a straight line. Like there's no doubt about that. I think that some of the other athletic traits are like not quite as groundbreaking, just like his like flexibility, sitting in zone coverage, like those type of things where I think he's going to have to over time kind of develop that. And it's just a bummer that he not only goes to the Jets, who I think are projected for like the bottom three points this year, they also double down get Omar Cooper. We know how good Garrett Wilson is, and then we know how volatile Geno Smith could be. And then on top of that, don't forget about Mason Taylor. And then like you go back to read the scouting reports, you go back to watch our video about Mason Taylor, it's just like that's all reliable. Just going to eat a bunch of snaps, like keep it moving. Like maybe he turns into Hunter Henry, but like we've seen Dalton Schultz be this guy. Like that guy still exists. Like this is the second season. So like is Drake going to be a full-time player just because he went in round one? Like I don't think so. I think there's a chance he's more of a 70% snap player. Maybe a tier above Concade because a little bit better of a blocker than Concade or certainly a better blocker than Concade is, but like a lot of the same issues exist, but he's on the Jets, not the Buffalo Bills.
>> Yeah, I understand the draft capital is attached to him and Mason Taylor, and that's from, you know, the same staff and regime. Uh, but I kind of would be surprised if we get to week one and Sadique is the one that's on the field constantly over Mason Taylor as the tight end one. I like Sadique a lot. I'm just Maybe it's that Frank Reich nastiness that's in my brain.
>> We didn't even say Frank Reich. Like we should say Frank Reich every single time we talk about any Jet, you have to say Frank Reich first.
>> We're drafting a lot of New York Jets right now. Um,
>> I'm not you. You guys are. Don't don't group me. I'm not drafting any.
>> People are drafting a lot of New York Jets right now. And uh, maybe Frank Reich can do it, but um, I'm a little bit nervous that we won't see like the final form of this group until 2027.
Okay, just three more in this tier quickly. It's T.J. Hockenson, it's Dalton Schultz, it's Cade Stover. Uh, kind of sucks to see Hawk all the way down here versus in previous years he was kind of drafted as a tight end seven to tight end nine.
>> Yeah, I think I like him maybe ahead of Sadiq and Chigo Quano. Just.
>> Okay.
>> I think Kyle is tight end 22 right now.
>> Yeah, let's move him ahead. I'll double down on that. I think that the Vikings are going to look a lot better this year. Their quarterback play was horrific and I think that we have a chance where Hockenson's like he's never going to be like a superstar receiving tight end. He's kind of just like hit kind of a limitation coming off that injury and it's really hard for him to do that when you have, you know, uh, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison. They just added Jawan Jennings on top of it. So, there's a lot of target competition going on there. I think he's he's fine, uh, as a tight end two, but it's hard to get really excited about him as long as Justin Jefferson's there.
>> Yeah. And low low key, uh, the Houston Texans are one of these teams that can also go in three tight ends. I mean, they even have four. It's Dalton Schultz. They brought in Foss Maro in free agency. They drafted Marlon Klein in the second round and they also had Cade Stover in the fourth round just a couple years ago. So they're like four deep at tight end.
>> Yeah. I just like thinking through this, it's hard to find a bunch of sleeper tight ends. And I think that was the kind of the difference uh this year. Like I feel okay about a couple of these guys, but like we kind of like gushed about like what what the top 10 names for quite a while there.
>> Okay. Well, I've got one for you. We'll close us out with tight ends 26 through 29. Uh, that is David and Jooku, Terrance Ferguson, Eli Sters, and my sleeper tight end this year is Gunnar Helm.
>> Okay.
>> You're tight end 29. I think being drafted is tight end 25 if I'm not mistaken. Um, 181 overall. Uh, look, his athletic profile is non-existent. If we look at his NFL combine, he blew up his ankle and then
>> Yeah, it's a test combine. Yeah.
>> his testing was horrific. However, this team allowed, despite needing pass-catching help, Chigo Quano to leave. Gunnar Helm kind of became an every-down tight end for them. I think he is smooth enough, has solid enough hands, even going back to his time at Texas to come down with these passes. And we saw last year Brian Daboll really utilize his tight ends in the intermediate portion. My Frankenstein room of tight ends right now often is K.J. Ciarra and then I close things out with Gunnar Helm.
>> I can see the vision here. I thought his film and college was like kind of just like catch the ball and and kind of tumble over, but like he caught the ball routinely and I thought he was like kind of smooth. Um, and you just didn't see the explosiveness. But we've seen I mean, we just mentioned a couple of them and like Schultz and K.D. and those type of guys like they could hold the line especially in like best ball as like a a late round tight end and Helm would be one of these guys where I haven't done projections yet, but his raw projection versus the wide receiver that's being drafted right next to him is probably better, like just straight up. So um, I'm I'm completely open to the Helms of the world. I would be pretty surprised if he's like a top 12 guy, but like could he be the the tight end 18 this year? Like why not? Yeah, it's it's Gunner Helm, Daniel Bellinger followed Brian Daboll. Uh, Kylin Gransson, who has been with the Colts and the Philadelphia Eagles in the past, is also on the roster. But uh, yeah, Gunner Helm, look again, last year we talked about like Harold Fannon. We talked about AJ Barner, a few of these other guys. And
>> Theo Johnson for a long time, Britain Strange, they were going later and later and later.
>> Uh, the last last round name is that I'm thinking about a lot is going to help, but maybe that backfires. Mine's Greg Dulcich, largely because you got to drag his name up there. Look at the way this guy looks. This is like Zoro. This is it's an unbelievable aesthetic. Uh, he's by himself out there. I'll I'll leave it at that.
>> The the the funniest part though, I mean, he he is on the Miami Dolphins for those of you that don't know. They did bring in Will Cassick,
>> purely a blocking threat in the third round. Uh, and then they do have Sadu Triori as a fifth-rounder, but who knows exactly what position he is going to play. And that's really it. So like if Greg Dulcich can fulfill this receiving target upside on a team that
>> doesn't really have wide receiver,
>> they're desperate.
>> They are desperate.
>> That is.
>> Yeah, I've seen worse. He's like my favorite like what the hell are we doing in sleeper this year.
>> All right, on Thursday, we're going to talk about quarterbacks. Rank those. Talk about the offenses that they're in right now. A lot of changes across the league. What I think half the teams across the league have a new play caller or offensive coordinator or head coach. So, uh, that impacts the quarterback more than any other position. Um, so again, we'll discuss tight ends more and more and more throughout the summer and how that impacts wide receivers. This is a good foundation episode for it. So appreciate we show behind the scenes for all of you watching in front of the scenes. Uh, hit that subscribe button before we go and we'll see you in the next one.