Dr. Khalid Muhammad - Debate on The Origin Of Jesus (1991) | 47 MINUTES LONGER

Ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, I present to you the Reverend attorney A. Morgan Brian. "I would know nothing among you save Jesus Christ and him crucified." I'm here tonight. I'm not a reverend, incidentally. I'm a layman. I'm a member of a local Baptist Church, not an ordained minister. I am a practicing lawyer. But I want to tell you something about the perspective from which I come to this debate, or dialogue, as I was led to understand it was going to be.

I don't pretend to try to convince you of my point of view through rhetoric. As a trial lawyer, I know a great deal about rhetoric, but I don't plan to use rhetoric tonight because I don't think rhetoric is what's involved in trying to present a view of the Lord Jesus Christ. Secondly, I'm not here to argue the point. I'm going to present to you, as best I can and as best the Lord allows you to do so, my view on the subject. How God works in the hearts of each of us in terms of belief, in what we believe or don't believe, what we accept or don't accept, that's up to Him and His Holy Spirit as He deals with the hearts and minds of men and women, human beings. I don't believe in arguing points of this sort, and I will not argue that. I would try to discuss them as best I can.

I also am coming to you from the perspective of not wanting to consider this a great debate. As it's been too opening comment, I don't know where that came off, "great debate." I'm not a great debater. I'm an ordinary layman who had a viewpoint and I expressed it in a letter to the editors to the Picayune. And incidentally, the letter that appeared in the Picayune edited out all of the scripture references that were in my letter to the editor. Hence, those of you who read the letter in the, in the letters column, didn't get the benefit of the perspective that our, that was major in my, in my viewpoint, and that was, it's a biblical perspective.

I'm not competent to debate Dr. Khalid on matters of the Koran. I confess to you that I don't know much about the Koran. As an educated person, I know, I know what it is, but I've never studied it. I've never read it, and I don't purport to be any kind of an articulator of things in the Koran. I don't know that much about the Nation of Islam other than what I read in the newspapers. So I'm not comfortable. I don't say that should be facetious. I say that to simply be honest before you so that you know where I'm coming from. I'm not competent to debate with Dr. Khalid fine points of doctrine or the tenets of belief of Islam or the Nation of Islam, or what the Honorable Louis Farrakhan stands for, or what many of you stand for in that respect. I don't see that as the point of my being here tonight.

I was simply asked, why, on the telephone, the morning after the letter appeared in the Picayune, "Would you be willing to debate with somebody the point that you expressed in the letter?" I said, "Certainly, I'm willing to do that." And I am willing to do that, but I'm doing it from a biblical perspective. Now, I want to tell you one other thing about myself. Not that I want to emphasize myself because I don't. I want to magnify the Lord Jesus Christ in anything I do and say and think here tonight. But I do want you, I became a Christian 40 years ago. I was in my middle year of law school at LSU when I was led to Christ by a minister, a young Baptist minister. He had been witnessing to me for approximately a year before I finally received Christ in my heart, only repenting of my sins and trusting Him as my Lord and Savior.

Prior to that, I have been an arrogant, cocky, smart aleck cynic, probably an agnostic. I was never an atheist. I always believed there was a God, but it didn't follow me and it didn't interest me. I was an agnostic in that I couldn't care less about God and the things of God. But once I was reached for the message, with the message in the gospel of Christ, I gave my heart to Christ there when I was a young man, in my 23rd year. I'm 63 years old now, and I received Christ and I accepted Him. Since that time, I've been a member of Southern Baptist churches. The overwhelming majority of my church life, 35 of the 40 years, has been spent right here in New Orleans, in First Baptist Church of New Orleans. I'm a deacon in that church, and I'm a Bible teacher in that church. And that's all, that's all I present to you by way of qualifications for what we're doing here tonight.

As a practicing lawyer, having to be busy about my business in order to support my family, I did not have any time and did not spend any time because it didn't have it to prepare myself by going back and doing any research in anthropology or sociology or archeology or any of the history, ancient history, or any of the things that probably have a bearing on this issue. But as I said, my letter was primarily written from a biblical perspective, and that's all I feel at least somewhat qualified to deal with you about tonight, and that's all I intend to do. If that causes me to be regarded as the loser in the debate, so be it. And I'm not conceding defeat at the outset. I'm simply mentioning to you my limitations. I think it's important for you to know that I have those limitations. I don't come before you as somebody qualified in the same way that Dr. Khalid is. On the other hand, he may not be qualified in some of the areas that I'm qualified in.

Yet, now, I don't have any political agenda. There'll be absolutely nothing in my presentation that has anything to do with a human struggle. And I'm not, I'm not minimizing those things. I'm simply saying that's not on the agenda for me tonight. If it is on his agenda, then so be it. I'm not prepared to deal with that and probably won't, other than as I deal with the subject that I was given to come here and dialogue over. Now, having said all of that, I will go ahead and make my presentation to you.

Incidentally, I didn't, I didn't quite understand why there was a lot of laughter when, as I was being introduced, it was commented that I was at the red, white, and blue paper. And I didn't hear tropical laughter when Dr. Khalid was stated as being in the other table with other colors. I don't know the significance of that. But if it has anything to do with a denigrating of my Americanism, and I am an American, then I can't say that I care for that. I'm a citizen of this nation. I was born in this nation. And incidentally, I'm not a representative of slave masters. That was mentioned. I'm not a representative of slave masters, despite the fact that I'm white. Oh, white have no sympathy with slavery. Some whites may, but not all whites do. I do not, never did. I grew up as a child in this city and never had any such, such attitude.

I also say to you that, as best as I know myself, and we can often be wrong about ourselves, others see us better than we see ourselves, but as best as I know myself, I am not a bigot, and I don't have any anti-black racist views, despite the fact that I have a view regarding Jesus and His origin, His ethnic background, that has nothing to do with racism. That has to do with the way I interpret and understand the Bible.

Finally, I will say to you that so that you'll understand what I feel about the Bible, what I believe about the Bible. I accepted the fact when I became a Christian that this is the divinely inspired Word of God. I believe that entirely. I have no doubts about it in my mind. And I have no qualifications to bring to that stated proposition. I believe that the Bible is not only the divinely inspired Word of God, but because I believe that, I believe it's inerrant. I believe it's infallible. I believe it is without error. Despite the fact that human beings were God's instruments in writing the Bible, I don't concede that because human beings wrote the Bible, it can have any error. Because I believe that if God is overseeing in His divine way the production of what He intends to be produced by these errant human being writers, God alone can control the outcome. God can see to it that the outcome is one that is precisely what He intended. And that's what I believe about the Bible. Hence, everything that the Bible states to me is believable and is true, and is what God is trying to reveal through a written record, through a written word, to human time.

It was what I read in the Bible about Jesus that led me to put my faith in my trust in Him 40 years ago. I have only two main points in my belief. That Jesus was not of black African origin. And both of these beliefs, as I said, are not based on a bigoted point of view or any anti-black racism in my heart. They're based solely on my understanding of the scripture to reveal. First is that I believe Jesus is plainly shown in the scripture to be the Divine Incarnate Son of God Almighty, Jehovah, Elohim. I believe that that's who Jesus the Christ is. I believe He is the eternal, pre-eternal Christ, the divine, divine member of the triune nature that God has. A mystery that I don't understand. I don't understand how God. So I believe seriously that God has one, that God is a one, just one God, the ruler, the creation of this entire universe, the eternal Almighty being in this universe. And how He has chosen to reveal Himself in the person of the Son and the Holy Spirit is an enigma to my mind. I don't profess to be smart enough or eternal enough or infinite enough to understand all the parameters of that. But I do believe. I believe it because God's word in revealing.

So I believe that Jesus the Christ is the pre-eternal, second person of the triune nature of the Godhead. And I believe He came into this world in the plan, in the form of the servant, in the form of human beings, in the form of sinful man. So He Himself was not a sinner, never committed sin, never had any intention to commit sin. But I believe that Jesus was God incarnate and walked upon the face of this earth, lived on this earth for approximately 33 years. And His purpose in the coming and the first advent was to do the work of redemption and atonement for the sins of mankind at the cross, at Calvary, in order that human beings who would put their faith in their trust in Him would be able to have eternal life, would be able to have an eternal life after this life in the heavenly realm with God. And I believe that it's necessary for people to have their faith and trust in Jesus the Christ in order to be saved, in order to be saved from perdition and to eternal heavenly bliss.

Now, I believe that God had His own purpose. And I don't know His reasons for why He chose to pull out of the nations a man named Abram, later to be called Abraham, and made a covenant with Abraham. And among other things, gave Him a promise of a certain geographical portion of His earth called the promised land, Canaan. But also gave Him, more importantly than that, a promise of posterity, a promise of seed, a promise to seed, which God said to Abraham, "With bless all the nations of the world." He didn't limit it to any one nation. He says the blessing of that seed to the world would be to the world. And I believe that God has His own reasons for why He chose Abraham. And then Abraham is therefore the progenitor, the originator of a line, a genetic line, a line that descended from Abraham that comes all the way down to Mary and to the, the person that was born from the body of Mary, Jesus. But Jesus Himself having no human father, because the scripture reveals that the Holy Spirit of God overshadowed Mary and caused miraculously and supernaturally the conception to take place within a virgin. But it had mankind, and that is the human birth of the Lord Jesus Christ.

So I believe that these are the things that the Bible reveals to us about who Jesus is and how He came into the world. I believe that while He was on this earth, He was prepared for the, for the climactic event of the cross and the resurrection. The cross is the place where, ignominiously and being had largely disbelieved in and rejected and despised, He bore the penalty that you and I as human beings owe because of our sin. We are all sinners. I believe the scripture declares that we're all sinners, we're all four and short of the glory of God. We're all born under the condemnation of our sin and in need of being redeemed and saved by what Jesus has done. Jesus made it possible by what He did. And I don't regard Jesus as merely a very prophet. I believe that Jesus is the Divine Son of God. And to me, that's more than just son in the conventional sense. That Jesus is in a mysterious way that I don't understand, Jesus is God Himself incarnate in a second person of a triune nature, the Godhead, in which God has sought to reveal Himself to man. Other than by revealing the full eternal infinite attributes of the holy Almighty God, I believe would be impossible for God to reveal all of that staggering attribute about Himself to humans, to mere mortals, to mere human beings. That's why the Incarnation is such a special event for bringing God into the world so that He'd have a confrontation with human beings and a fellowship with human beings and a walk among human beings and then go to the cross and do the work of atonement in dying the sacrificial death, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.

And then I believe that Jesus was miraculously resurrected by His own power and the power of God Almighty, and not through any human intervention. And I don't believe you can explain the resurrection in rational terms. I believe that the resurrection is, is an, is a supernatural eternal act of the Almighty God. And Jesus was raised from the grave, glorified, no longer in a mortal existence, no longer in a corruptible existence, no longer destined, the way all flesh is destined to a grave there to corruption and permanently decomposed, but was raised glorified and in eternally equipped bodily form from which He walked the earth only another 40 days and then ascended back to the heavenly realm. And I believe that Jesus, in His glorified, in His glorified post-resurrection form, His promise, He Himself has promised to return to this earth at the end of time. And I'm not trying to get into the details of the return of Christ, if I believed them and as I understand them from the Bible. But I am trying to say that I believe in a risen Savior, a resurrected Savior, who is ascended and on high at the right hand of God the Father, now constantly interceding for all of those who have their faith in their hope in Him, and who is promised to return at the end of time. The exact time of which we know not. We are privileged to know some of the, of the general characteristics of the times so that we will at least know we shouldn't be fooling around if we're out of Christ. We shouldn't be fooling around if we have not yet given our hearts and our lives to Christ. But we don't know. No human being knows the exact time that Jesus will return in the, in the full glory of what the Bible describes as the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords, the Wonderful Counselor, the Mighty God, the Everlasting Savior, the Almighty, the Prince of Peace. He's coming someday in that way. And I believe that when He does, He will consummate the age and everything this temporal will become as well, just perish. The scripture says that this whole, this whole universe will someday just go up in the hydration, a perishing of baptism, which is merely material, a perishing of that which is temporal, as distinguished from eternal. And yet God will then lecture in the permanence of the new heavens and the new earth, as the book of Revelation speaks about. And the eternal kingdom of God will be forever and ever, never ends. Those who belong to Him through faith, those who have been redeemed by the shed blood of the Lord, and who have appropriated that shed blood to themselves by their personal repentance and faith, will spend eternity in their own glorified forms, having been resurrected from the dead if they died beforehand, and having been translated if they're living when those events take place and raptured into a translated form. I believe all of that. I believe it to the bottom of my toenail. And those toenails are about 76 inches away from the top of my head.

Now, I said all of that to say that I believe the Bible reveals that the line that God started with Abraham and brought all the way down through the annals of time to a point, thank you, to a point where a humble Jewish maiden. I believe in the virgin birth of Christ. I do not believe in Mary has been a grand-eyed human being who is somehow divine herself. I do not believe that. I believe the only divine person who ever walked the face of this earth was Jesus the Christ. And I believe that His divinity is co-equal with that of God the Father because He is, shall the Father in a revealed human's earthly time, in our era, in His existence. I can't separate the difference between God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, and not see them as distinct personalities, and yet not believe that they're three Gods. I don't believe in three gods. I'm not a polytheist. I am a monotheistic. Somehow, it doesn't bother me that my, which is the opposite of an infinite, divine, my finite mind cannot comprehend such an infinite concept as the triune nature of God, nor can it comprehend the virgin birth of Christ, nor can it comprehend many of the other mysteries that the Bible teaches us that are beyond the ken of human understanding, human belief. We can believe them, but human understanding can't necessarily comprehend all the details of those great mysteries.

So I believe that Jesus in the flesh, and so far as His fleshly person is concerned, came down from a line of humanity that began with Abraham and ended with Mary in Bethlehem that night, almost 2,000 years ago. Now, I don't see anything in the scripture that teaches me that that line just described is anything other than a line called Hebrew, a line called Jew, a line called Israel, a line called the seed of Abraham, a line called the, the fruit of Jacob, in the sense of the, of the inheritance, a line called a seed of David, a line called from the tribes of Judah, of the twelve tribes that Jacob has sponsored and progenitor. So I, I base my belief that Jesus is a Jew on the scripture that detailed that line.

I'd like to share some of those passages with you. In the Gospel account by Luke, he, in the first chapter, we read this in verses 26 and 27, and some other selected verses following that. "In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to the city of Galilee named Nazareth." That's where He was, that's where He was from, although He was born in Bethlehem. But His mother Mary and, and her espoused person Joseph, they had not yet translated their marriage physically. She was still a virgin. They have, they had what in those days was tantamount to a contract of marriage. They already belonged to one another and pledged their, their oath to one another, but they had not consummated the marriage sexually or physically, and she was indeed a virgin, according to the scripture. And the angel of God, a messenger of God, angelic beings are creatures. They're creatures of God. They're not divine. They're simply creatures, not of this realm, not this world. They're different from us. We're creatures called home and called human beings. Thank you. But this angel, this messenger of God, comes to Mary in a city in the province of Galilee, in the city called Nazareth. And verse 27 says, "It's to a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph of the house of David." And the virgin's name was Mary. And elsewhere in scripture, we find that Mary also is held a lineage of David. So both Joseph, who was not Jesus' physical father, don't misunderstand me on that point, that would destroy the doctrine of the virgin birth, and the Bible doesn't teach that. The Bible simply teaches that Joseph was her consort, as it was, but not having yet consummated their marriage. But both Joseph and Mary descend from the line of David. So in that sense, at least, a reputation of father of Jesus, because he has a reputation of being the father of that, of that family, Joseph did, was of the household estate.

Now the scripture goes on to say, "And the angel came in unto her and said, Hail, thou who art highly favored, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women." And then further on down, the angel said, in verse 30, "Don't fear, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you shall conceive in your womb and bring forth a son, and shall call His name Jesus." And Jesus is our English transliteration of the word, the name. But the name Yahshua in Hebrew is literally a word, my name was being savior. So Jesus, the very name Jesus refers to His saving work, His atoning work for centuries. And so it did. She was instructed, "You shall call His name Jesus." And "He shall be great and shall be called the Son of the Highest." The Highest is a reference to God Almighty. So scripture is plain, "He shall be called the Son of God, the Son of the Highest." And "the Lord God shall give unto Him the throne of His poor father David." Now, that doesn't mean a temporal throne. David is simply symbolic of a throne which represents the position of the Savior Jesus Christ. He is the King of Kings, He is the Lord of Lords, but He comes in the type of a previous king of Israel named David. And then the scripture goes on to say, "And He shall reign over the house of Jacob." House of Jacob is Israel. "He shall reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there shall be no end." You see, those are the words of perpetuity. Those are the words of His eternality. Those are not words of having a termination in history or a termination on the things of this earth. So these are descriptions of the marvelous earth, they are a heavenly kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ. All of this is prophesied before Mary even conceived and nurtured Him and then bore Him.

And then it goes on to say, Mary, this perplexed about how this could be because she had not had any relations with a man. And verse 35 says, "And the angel answered and said to her, The Holy Spirit shall come upon you, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow you: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born from you shall be called the Son of God." And then the scripture goes on in that first chapter of Luke to talk about these great things regarding the Lord Jesus Christ in verses 67 and following, where we read this. In the first, "This is the father of John the Baptist, who was a child born six months previous to Jesus' birth, by a cousin of Mary, and that father was named Zacharias. And it says, in his father, that means John the Baptist's father, Zechariah, was filled with the Holy Spirit and prophesied, saying, Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for He has visited and redeemed His people, and has raised up a horn of salvation for us in the household of His servant David." Asia is simply another reference to the Davidic lineage, the ethnic background of Jesus as a human being in the flesh. His fleshly person is from the line of David. And then He goes on to say things about the which clearly shows that He's the Son of God, that He's divine. And verse 73 in that passage refers to the oath which God had sworn to their forefather Abraham, showing the beginning of that, of that line.

Then I would come to you in the second chapter of Luke, verse 4. In the second chapter, it says, "And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, to Judea, unto the City of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the household and the lineage of David." There were circumstances, political as they were during that day, that led the family of Mary and Joseph, who married by then, being pregnant with the, with this fetus, which was the Son of God. And I might say one all, mostly, that's a, that's an aside. But in any event, they led them from, they were led from the town of their hometown to Bethlehem, the City of David, for tax purposes. And that's where Jesus happened to be born. All of that consistent with scripture. In Micah, the Old Testament book, is specifically prophesied that the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. And the book of Matthew and, and books of Matthew and Luke in the New Testament record that that was, in fact, the case.

Then in the tenth and eleventh verses of that second chapter of Luke, the scripture says, "For unto you is born this day." This is when the angels made their announcement to the shepherds who are in the field. "Unto you is born this day in the City of David, that's Bethlehem, a Savior, which is Christ the Lord." Jesus is His name. Christ is who He was. The word Christ is our English word from the Greek word Christos, which literally means the anointed. The anointed of God. And just as Messiah is the Hebrew word for anointed, so Messiah and Christ mean the same thing. They simply means that Jesus, by name, Emmanuel, by name, is the Messiah, the Anointed of God. And His anointing is for this primary purpose of being the Savior, human being, the Savior whom God provided in order to human beings who are sinners by nature and sinners by practice would not have to remain under the condemnation of their sins. But that's what, but by repentance, age could have an eternal life with God if they put their faith and trust in the one whom God sent to do the atonement for their sin.

And so then the scripture goes on in the 21st verse of the second chapter of Luke. It refers to the fact that after eight days, it's following His birth, His parents took Him to the temple for the rite of circumcision, which Jews had as part of their identity. And it says, "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, His name was called Jesus, which was so named of the angel before he had even been conceived in the womb." And in the Matthew accounts, you know, the angel even told Mary that His name would be also Emmanuel, which means God with us. Which is a reference to the fact that God has descended from the transcendence of the heavenly realms. God has descended in the person of the Christ to the world and tabernacled among us, tented among us, lives among us, abided among us, which shows that though God is transcendent, He is also immanent. Though He's far away in an eternal sense, He's very close in a temporal sense, in a human sense. And Jesus Christ is His, is the way in which God reveals those truths to human beings. Human beings need not feel any estrangement from Christ. Human beings should not feel or horrible, even human beings who have put their faith and trust in Jesus Christ should not feel any estrangement from God, regardless of the color of His skin, regardless of where He's from.

I'm here to deal with the fact that I believe strongly, because the Bible says so, in my opinion, that He was not from Africa, that He was from Asia Minor. And I believe that He was not a black person. He was a Jew. And Jews were not, are not shown in the scripture to be black persons. But I do believe that it doesn't really matter what His skin color was or where He was, where He was from in a geographic extent, so long as we understand He is the divine Son of God. So long as we understand that He has done, and He is the only one who has done, and the only one who can do the work of atonement and make it possible for sinners to be saved. And that's the abiding hope that I have. I believe that when I die, no matter what the circumstances, I believe that I will go to heaven, not because I'm good, and not because I, I'm worthless, and not because I'm worthy of it, and not because I deserve it, because I don't believe that I deserve it or am worthy of it. But I believe that I'll go purely and simply because the grace of God has said that if any sinner repents of his sins and trusts in God's provision for his salvation, the Lord Jesus Christ, he will be saved. Emphatically will be saved. And I've got, I'm thanking my eternal destiny on the validity and the veracity of that promise of God that I read from the Word of God. And 40 years ago, I put my faith and trust in Jesus as my Savior when I was just a young law student at LSU, and I haven't changed my mind over these years. In fact, as the years have passed, I've become more and more confirmed in my belief and in my hope for eternal life. And it's a hope, not in the sense that I have any doubt about it. It's a hope only in the sense that it hasn't materialized yet, and won't materialize until either I die and go to be with the Lord in spirit, or I'm translated if the Lord returns before I die, and I'm glorified and taken up into heaven in that way, the Bible declared.

Now, the scripture also has many other passages that I would like to share with you. In the first chapter of Matthew, you have the genealogy of Joseph. And that genealogy plainly shows that it comes all the way down. There's a very first verse in Matthew 1. It says, "The book of the generation of Jesus Christ." The generations, which you know, the word gen, gen-e-sis, come from a root which means origin, which means beginning. Book of Genesis means the beginnings of many things revealed to us in the book of Genesis. Genetic refers to human, to the beginning of human nature in the sense of that which makes us what we are as individual human beings. And on and on. Generator means something which is the beginning of for us to energy, power, and so forth. But anyhow, it says, "The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham." That doesn't mean he's literally a physical son of David or literally a physical son of Abraham, but it's just a way of bridging the gaps in saying Jesus all the way through a line that has David somewhere in the middle of it and goes up to Abraham. And in Luke's account of the genealogy of Mary, in the third chapter of Luke, you have something similar, but it runs all the way from Adam down to Jesus. So we have two genealogies, one of which takes you through the line of the Jews, and the other which takes you through the humanity that also includes that line of the Jews. The Luke genealogy is, is broader and, and more extensive than the Matthew genealogy. But the portion of the Luke genealogy that deals with the line from Abraham is still the Jewish line. And so Jesus comes through that means. I don't, as a Bible believer, I accept that.

And so let's make move now to some other things. He enrollments, the first chapter, the verses 3 and 4. The scripture says, "So this is everyone Paul productively works across the hall. He says, Paul, the servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God, which He has promised the floor by His prophets in the holy scriptures concerning His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh, and declared to be the Son of God with power according to the spirit of holiness by the resurrection from the dead." So the scripture again confirms that Jesus' earthly heritage is that from the seed of David, come from David. And the Old Testament had prophesied this. You know, we'll take the time to read it in Jeremiah 23:5 and 6. The scripture makes it plain that Jesus is of the household. Stated that Jesus as the Messiah was to come as through the throne of David. And in fact, be symbolically, the throne of David was a symbol of the throne of the Almighty God in His heavenly realm, which the Christ Jesus occupies.

And then further, there is passage of scripture, for example, Hebrews 7:14, which says, "For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning the priesthood." Simply meaning that the tribe of Judah was not the priestly tribe. Tribe of Levi was the priestly tribe among the Jews, among the twelve sons of Jacob, Jacob being Israel. But Jesus comes from the tribe of Judah. And both of the genealogies show this. And so He is a Jew from the, from the loins of Abraham, through Isaac, through Jacob, and then through Judah, one of the, one of the twelve sons of Jacob, and on down the line through the descendants of Judah, which the Bible clearly demarcates. I don't have time to read all those names, but they are there in the Bible, and the Bible plainly declares that line.

Then in the book of Revelation, in the fifth chapter, verses 5 and 6, say this. "And one of the elders said to me," this is John the Apostle on the island of Patmos, for the decline of his life, receiving certain revealed visions from God, which he then writes under divine inspiration into the book of Revelation. He says, "One of the elders said to me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book and to loose the seven seals thereof." And I beheld, and lo, behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God that God sent forth into all the earth. And then the book goes on to describe in verses 39 and 13 that the Lamb clearly is the crucified Christ, worthy as the Lamb, says the scripture. And says that the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, meaning that God had the plan of salvation which involved Himself becoming the sacrifice for the sins of man, in order to make atonement for the sins of man, rather than man being able to atone for his own sins, either through his good works or through his, his self-punishments. Man can atone for his own sin. Salvation, as I read and understand the Word of God, is purely and simply and totally by the divine grace of God. Were it not for God's grace, there would be no salvation. But praise God, in His grace, He has provided a way that all human beings can follow.

I believe that the scripture shows to my satisfaction, in any event, that after the flood, I believe in a universal flood. I believe that the flood at the time that Noah covered the earth. I believe that it, that all human beings except the eight persons who were in the ark, Noah and his wife, his three sons and their respective wives, were all perished in the flood. So that the only human beings that repopulated the earth after the flood were the three sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And the scripture gives a lot of details in the ninth, the tenth, and the eleventh chapters of Genesis, all of which I believe. I don't take those three chapters of Genesis as allegorical. I don't take them as mythical. I take them as actual truth from God to explain to us the origin of man. And in those passages of, in those chapters, the scripture makes it plain, I believe, that of the three sons of Noah, when God finally confused the languages at the Tower of Babel incident and, and scattered them geographically, because prior to that time, they all were in the, in the place on the, on the face of this earth where civilization arose. The Bible says that the Ark came to rest upon Mount Ararat, and that's somewhere in the vicinity of what is now Turkey, in the world, in the, in the Asian continent, the Asia Minor continent, is the call it today. And that the whole civilization in the next generations that came forth from these children until the time of the Tower of Babel incident that's described in the scriptures centered in that area. But God, because of the circumstances of the Tower of Babel and what it represented and what it meant, rebellion against God by human beings, God then scattered them and also confused the tongues, which means they didn't have any longer a single language. They had individual languages in the various places where they went.

And as you track through the Table of Nations in the 10th chapter of Genesis, I believe, and I'm not the only one who believes this, a lot of people who are in disciplines and educational disciplines that I am not an expert in, who believes that it can be shown that the following are some of the people, not all the peoples, with some of the peoples, ancient peoples, who descended from Shem, one of the sons of Noah. These, the Jews. There's no question but that the Jews descend from Shem. The, the genealogies in Matthew and Luke show this clearly. But Jews, Arabs, Syrians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, are all people who are the nations and the peoples who seem to have descended from Shem. Japheth seems to have as his descendants those who ended up occupying the part of the world that we call Indochina, in India, and oh, I mean Indo-Europe, in India, and all of the northern countries in Europe, Russia, Denmark, England, Italy, Spain, France, Germany, all those areas, Scandinavian countries. The scriptures in the Table of Nations in the 10th chapter of Genesis seem to me to show that the descendants of Ham ended up being the following peoples. And there's nothing denigrating about these people. Some of these people had great civilizations and then were great nations, great empires. The Egyptians, the certain of the Sumerians, the Ethiopians, Africans, Phoenicians, Mongols, Orientals, Hittites, all the Canaanite nations that ended up inhabiting the promised land that God had given to, to Abraham. And that after the exodus under Moses out of Egypt, out of the Egyptian bondage where the Israelites spent 400 years in that bondage, they had to come back and cross over into Canaan and establish themselves in that promised land, a little leadership of Joshua and Caleb. They had to defeat the Canaanites, they had to get rid of the Canaanites, move them out of the area in order that they could be where God intended for them to be from the first place. But all those Canaanite nations seemingly are descendants of Ham. I think the scriptures show that American Indians and all the South Sea Islanders are descendants of Ham.

Now, what does that mean? It simply means that I believe since Jesus descended from Shem, one of the three sons of Noah, and not from Japheth, and not from Ham, and since the descendants of Ham seem to be the majority of the people, is of peoples of the world who are black in their in their skin pigmentation and blacks with some racial characteristics in that regard, Jesus did not descend from that line. That's why I say that Jesus is a Jew. And as a Jew, He's not a black. And because He was, He's from Nazareth and Bethlehem and Palestine, He's not from Africa. He's from a portion of the world that was not regarded as part of the continent of Africa, from a portion of the world that is regarded as part of the continent of Asia.

I might be a little bit short of my 45 minutes, but that's all I have to say in the opening. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, I present to you Mr. and Dr. Khalid Abu Muhammad. [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Applause] Giving honor to Allah and to His precious son, Black Jesus, and to the precious Black Holy Ghost. I am honored to have this opportunity to debate. Debate is very important. Debates happen. Attorney Brian has chosen the resolution that resolved Jesus was a Jew and was not of African art. Let's go after that, because white people do lie. We have a history during our 400 years here in America of the lies of the white men. The white man who has set up the racist doctrine to accept that his position of white supremacy all over the face of the planet Earth. So since Attorney Brian has started off by saying that, let's look at his coming. He has started off by saying, "I don't plan to use women. Not here to argue. Not competent to debate all matters of the Quran." I promise you, I won't use the Quran. But he says he does not intend to argue the point. Then he's just not have put it in the time. Nicu. And if he didn't want it, he says tonight, he wants to face much of his argument, all of his argument, on the line, on what he calls holding the both Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan teach us that holy be pure, undiluted, and untampered with in any ball that we need to see if the book, the line. And if you're going to use the Holy Bible, Attorney Brian, what quoted Bible are you going to use? Are you going to use the Fielders? Are you going to use the Philosopher's? Are you going to use the do it? Are you going to use the New World Translation? The Jerusalem Bible? Which side will the Catholic Bible? Bible? I don't want you to miss one in the Bible. Another 572 in the Bible with five. Whether you go to use here tonight, the audience of your heart. We've even got what is called the forecasting books of the Bible. We've even got what is called the law books of the Bible. And why do you, you gotta use compact? [Applause] You will come from the second chapter of Timothy, the third, the second, second Timothy, the third chapter, and the 16th verse. "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." But yet, in the first five books of the Bible, Moses, Dr. Body's own bureau and his own death and burial. I ask the question, is know about his death, his judo, and you all about the circumstances and details surrounding his burial? Let us look as a revived of the back. Are you with me? I intend to prove here tonight that Jesus, the Bible, was in a black African. I intend to prove here tonight that Attorney Brian is a liar and the representative of a lying, racist people, with lied to us for the past four [Applause] before we go through the revised and at version, the King James birth. Now, James, according to history, wasn't this daddy. He was a homosexual. Dames was switching all over Europe. James was in love with merely in the kingdom that the women were in love with a document many times in the kingdom. God does not make my holy book essences. The very book of the Bible from homosexuality and bagging around. But who was the King of that time? Yes, it authorized by him because he was a king. I wonder what James inspired of God says. This is the all and New Testament translated out of the original tone. Let's stop for a minute there. They tell your was translated out of the original tone. I'm here to tell you tonight from the most honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan that you man and you woman, that you are the original man and the original woman. So to take a dupe you, so that they could fool you, so that they could trick you and have you bow down to a blond hair, pale in buttermilk affections, blue-eyed award looking this brother is not Deva. This is nothing. This is nothing but a creamy head throughout three nights of ten great has buttermilk affection white male. This is the white man as.

The Bible said, "Sitting in the nipple of God, showing himself that he is the God deceiving all things." And for everything that it fights, it is all right. He teaches us an angel food cake is white, and never food cake in flesh. He teaches us everywhere whites the weddings, and we're well executed. He says, "If I don't something, all you have blackmail you. If I want to put you out of the church, a black hole you ain't yet go through the community cleaning like a white fugly." He says, "It's not good to live, buddy, but if you want so alive, it's alright."

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We can't even go into the pool ball of the billiard room for a family game without racism stereos in the face of shiny white fall on the table, knocking the hell out of the platform. The red and the yellow balls on the paper and the work follow the table is the flat fall out of eight balls.

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Well, the lying lawyer said, "Well, I, he came in your punk it up." Well, I, I, I'm not here to join so and I distances. We're not impressed by that. You didn't expect anybody to call you up, that's why you put it in the Times-Picayune. But this is a new black man today, a new because one of his conditions is that Jesus is a Jew. Jesus is a Jew. Well, I don't have no problem with that. Volume, Jesus was. But not a question. He Edwards, do black like me? Our view quite like you? No, smell mean nothing about Jameer bacon, the rest of films over there in the illegitimate criminal, criminal settler colony that is high-end realtor day. These the masses who do these are a train of white people with crawled out of the cage that healed of Europe and who was driven up from the scissors of power in what they call the Middle East for years. The white man lies told us in Egypt was that even in effort. No, we looking at is right on the mess and this practical. That's what I said. Told us that it was not in Africa. Egypt is indeed in effort. And at one time, that was what was called the kingdom of peaches. And another time, that was what we call the kingdom of Ethiopia. Now, we need to look at this Egypt according to the Greek represents a terminus etymological root, a capital, which means the lands of the planet. But the true name for Egypt in the hieroglyphics are the holy writings of the midst of nectar is and Kim. It means blessed. Easier for Ethiopia means the land of the black and the fertility paralysis. His own white history told him that the Egyptians were deaf black people, and that the Jews of that area were yet black pieces. But now, let's look at it even further than that. The area that is called the Middle East, at all, the area that is called the Middle East is really not East Africa, separated from the mainland of Africa by a white man-made bit taller to it.

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Ethiopia and he goes with Madonna. What just that they won't last and they have a black baby. And you can go to this very.

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In the here. And that the true cube is a flat your people. The first victory. Oh, you'll see the first victory. Oh, Jewish historian has to say it about you. Jesus himself. Now, the lawyer wasn't there, is that right? But Josephus, the historian of the first District AD, has distances. He deprived even as a man with a long face and underdeveloped feet, because those displayed as an early Christmas improving it to truly accepted this view. And the proper description of the scholar in the Messiah Christ seems to be all about you religiously, and the world, even black or white people, prepare and try to go in his hope. So Messiah Christ, hey boy, level 421 and oh, to all right, man. Just like the lion reviewers historian, he says, "The paintings of Jesus after the church was allowed to come out, it was offensive to the believing Christian white people, and they are have a little excited." And so the image of the white man, just like the story told us, nothing but that this was offensive to the white guy. And so they decided to make him welcome. Hello, have a beautiful of all. Hope you feel better.

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Let's go further. He chose another white man, Prince white man, a white man like.

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In his book, "The Research History of the Parsonage, the Personality Jesus, the Christ," page 21829, he says, "Nothing remained lost, minute of the exterior." And he goes on to say how the check, the white oath of that error changed upon the third of that particular period, interior with Michelangelo coming on the scene, that nothing retains the finish of the exterior appearance of Jesus. Whenever he was depicted, he was just that he was aloof. The revelation, I don't know if attorney prior Israeli or not. And in the book of Daniel says that Jesus would be a man with hair. You know, you are soon to be nested before you've got your character would be according to the white fellows that we excited his mother. And do we just know that the students over there is into your as they call it, the day is not the true Q is a blessing. Let's look at it in the further. If any would have speak an authoritative, it would be like Ross. And so it is in it. Up probably goes like, "Look like you've been burned in an oven." I'm sorry, but we can't go for the - Italy. We don't believe. Then they give us a picture with.

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Take these Pekka water up in your wall.

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Where's the woman? No.

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Then you wanna give up with a new muscle like Kentucky Fried Chicken way.

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We receive through the mass and the pitfall. That's a white man. The very in the last days of this world that is going up and a new to be an athlete at home, peaceable cop.

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Let's cleanse. Don't worry. We heard that the honor of the city of New Orleans, like people came out to hear this spider-man from God. He was enraged by this. He whispered his typewriter. He was threatened by the radiant Hill to write this article. Let me read with the cracker.

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Let's look at Jesus. Jesus was not like regular Negro, not worthy of African art. Would you please bring that black for try to ride on it with the bike shop?

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You ready? The King James Version has wings and turns the novelist monumental in its dignity, its power, its happy terms of expression, the music of its cases, and the velocities of its business. It isn't as no other folk add into the making of a personal character and the public institutions of the English-speaking people. We help you both in yes. King James Version has great beeping. By the middle of the 19th century, the development of studies and the discovery of many manuscripts were more action. There's also fun which the King James Version was faith made it manifest as these defects in the King James Bible are so minute and so serious, so what and so serious as to call for revisions of the English translation. The White Star was going to say that there are thousands in the Old Testament alone by Allison theologians. Just recently met a few months ago, and they determine that all of that is attributed to each needle fatal contradiction. And one right, second Chronicles of 36, Jeff in the night part, your heart keep quinoa Jerusalem was eight years old when he began to reign in Jerusalem. Second Kings 24, days, your heart, your heart beat the genie of Jerusalem was 18 years old when he began to reign in Jerusalem. Was the age I was 22? It to audience, two years old when he began to reign. That is he taking 26 - and 20. Oh, well, I admire when he began to reign for the body - ah - 22. Let's go on the further. God seen and heard. And I take away my pain. And don't be bashful. Exodus 33 and 22. And the Lord spoke unto Moses face to face. In the year I sitting upon acceptance. And the first person. Now, let's see what the rest of the Bible is a silly, stupid, infallible book, or a book that has bitten by and that God does not let anything happen to. And there's a white hand info click it so quick that he would be God. John, what do they see? You have neither heard nor seen nothing, baby. For there shall be no man.

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And they don't work. Professor Church, wooden heart is an evolution of religion, and the negroes were the real originators of the Christian religion. Jay Rogers also tells Professor Jenny Rogers, insectary, St. Augustine himself is what is not all the Christian religion has existed among the action, most at all, and was not absent from the beginning of the human race until Christ came into blender. From which time, the true religion which existed already begun became known as Christianity. Let's go through a love the others can see upholding not like ruins of in Cairo. Professor West's famous is deposited maintains that the Ethiopians are the first to get religious thoughts and aspirations to the world. The King commands come from 147 declarations in the African. Know what he was talking about, and it's all.

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He was not even to the quick thing. He was not reaching father's death. He was not falling free. Is not merely free. And what you call theft. And let me put it on the board quickly, because if he will buy your house, a black car.

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Dr. Maulana Karenga. That's a very frigid. Dr. Richard Key. Dr. Naima. Dr. Francis Wellesley. That's James Bravo. We got Dr. Little, just a colossal justice, that just a civilian. I mean, let's go on and on. Dr. Fist. Dr. Cofer. So, let's go. Dr. Data. Doctor Hair. Dr. Noble. Dr. Kaar. And the white stars are many of them. I gave you the white, but I want to mention the fat ones in passing. I have to you that Jesus, yes, was it you? But that the original Jews are the original Hebrews. Let us go. Sigmund Fraud is blackness, hope to Abraham. The original queue up in the account in Genesis, disaster chapter 27, really night birth or Mesopotamia, which was easier palaces, the ancient Sumerian who just like them. He's right about one thing. Please, I didn't act all. And if you won't tell me, I'll break it. He's right about one thing, that is, I didn't know what I was coming into for a famine. I didn't know this. My opponent, we call me a lot. That's an insult to my integrity. He may think I'm wrong about some of these points. If I think he's wrong about many of these points, but I didn't have the indignity to call him a liar. And I don't come at all as I thought I would receive that kind of reception. I did not know that my integrity was on the line. And first place, to be a wife, you have to intend to deceive somebody by what you say, knowing is not to be true. And that is not the case with me tonight. I state that honestly and openly. I have a conviction. My convictions may not square with yours, off if it doesn't square with in. But my conviction is honestly born and it's honestly arrived at. Not to think it's not based upon any intention Steve. And I have no such intent. I still haven't been to dinner. I resent him calling me alive. Oh, I'm not letting matter of pictures of Jesus. I don't subscribe for pictures of Jesus. Nicky, you ran that picture. I didn't send that picture to my. Didn't authorize them to do it. They should contact me. I ignored the idea that put a picture of Jesus. I just happened to be a person. It does not believe in the art that comes out of the minds of man is what Jesus looked like. The pilot doesn't give us an adequate description of Jesus in terms of physical territory. And so I have to want to leave it high tolerance to put up pictures of Jesus and worship. Though I don't do it, never has done so. I don't stand for that. Others do. And that's a result of the towel is broken pieces on the floor. That's another matter. And has nothing to do with what I was here for. Time matter of which five. I have a King James translation. I have a fifty. No, the translation is my library. I don't. I don't agree with all of the translation. In fact, I'm a very conservative clo2. My theology is very conservative. And I don't believe that all the translations of the Bible are power in the market or faithful to those to the original autographs. I realize none of the original authors reference attack. Nobody has. But we have certainly an abundance of manuscripts, both ancient and resonation, which attest to the fits of the biblical text. We have both the Hebrew text in the Old Testament and the Greek text in the New Testament. And I'm satisfied that the King James translation is a reasonably accurate translation. That they may be some things in the in the friends not exactly correct. That's the matter of opinion. The matter is adjourned. But I do not subscribe as some of this, especially some of those versions of the bottle that he was referring to. I don't. I don't haven't even like the Revised Standard Version of 1946, because I think it's very liberal in sociology. I think it's liberal in its in issue of Scripture. I think it's liberal in its in its view of the divinity of Christ. And I have conservative buys. My students don't agree with it at all. Some of those versions. I don't for them to parade out all these other versions is simply to say, yes, there are other Christians in the world that have to provide the translation that they put great chocolate. But that has nothing to do with me. And it has nothing to do with anything I've said. Is my only presentation? So it really wasn't irrelevant. He took a lot of the truth. That wonderful thing he brought my artisan that appeared in the United Liners that are exploited as 11:50. You had an outcome of what I said. I granted the think you didn't had anything that I didn't say. I'll tell you one thing. He won't find in either the article or my letter, which he made much of, and that's his business of the hamper. I didn't say anything about the ham first. If I led it to the Heather, and he took great liberties with the truth in imputing that to me. And find out that you believe that I said that I did not say that. So it wasn't truthful when he told you that I did say that. In point of fact, the Bible in sailing hot and the first that has happened to be in the ninth chapter of Genesis at verses 25 and following. Everything to and no awoke from his wine and you were his younger son had done to him. And he said, hurt, detaining her, detainers, a servant of servants shall he be to his brethren. And he said, blessed be the Lord God of Shem. And Canaan shall be his server. God, so in Lawrence, Jason, and he chose well the defense of Shem and Canaan shall be his server. The Bible says nothing whatever, my God, firstly can. So the conference makes it very explicit about her Canaan, who was the youngest son, Sam. And it doesn't tell you exactly was the first. If what it says is he could be a servant of servants. In the next few verses, tend to explain that they say that the other two sons of North, the brothers of Champa, Pam, the uncles of Canaan, are Shem, adjacent, than it says, Jim Cathy west of God in a certain way. And Canaan shall be his further. And then it says, and Japheth shall enlarge his attention to the metaphoric meat idiom, which simply means he will be enlarged in terms of the scope of his of his population. But he'll also have a close consort with the promised descendants, those of Jim. But then said Canaan shall be his server. From what does that mean? Far as far as the different rewarded me. But at least one interpretation is the TAM will have a family, Canaan, and containers descendants will have a position of servitude to the descendants of both Shem and Japheth. And the descendants of Shem are and to include the Jews. And there are verses in the Bible plainly show that such servitude with the table. For example, in the a teacher in Joshua, nice gesture, the first birth described the people about on the nights after Christmas and refers to the Hittites, the Amorite, the Canaanites, and all of those who were collectively consisted a defense attainable. And then in verse 23, the Bible says, "Now therefore, you meaning the descendants of Canaan, for Earth, and there shall know that you see frees from being bondsman, spawn service, and hewers of wood and drawers of water, that were descendants of Canaan who ended up being in servitude to the Jews. That the Jews did have many rights from the Canaanites and conquer than many times and took sway along their congresspeople. That has nothing to do with hands. Has nothing to do with they believed that the gods heard Pam. And therefore, all black people are cursed and destined to slightly. I said no such thank you. You did not give me any such thing. If you go back and read my letter, as the stinking prison did not give you a copy of the letter that I wrote for them. If you want it, does not say any such thing. And I don't believe any such thing. Moreover, the Greek, the the word is attacked. The Hebrew words in the text, I'm not a Hebrew scholar, but I have whom helps in my life. Resident help me to breathe to gap on certain things. The Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible. And that translations made long before the time of Christ. And was made by Jewish prophets in the Greek language. The Greek words that appear in that fortune of the scripture where I'm just with from Genesis 9 or the words they are tais and thought if it's alive KTP heaven and and those two Greek words, firstly being a child and the sex that means household steward. It doesn't even have a concept of the bottom layers. Do I agree that the actual explain he had no freedom? It had to do with a childlike attendant or a household steward who had responsibilities. But he has a responsibility in subjection to someone who was the master of the household. It was a household service type thing. And all the Canaan was occupied by Noah is grandfather to have a long range down the line relationship to the Jews and those who would not defend the chamber, the dependency table in those regards. In the book of Judges, you also have in the first chapter 28, murder. And it came to pass when Israel was strong that they put the Canaanites contribute and did not are they drive them out. Tribute was the position of having to pay attack, having to pay a a stipend of money in order to go on living where they were living. In other words, the Israelites, the conquers, the Canaanites, and the Canaanites in a position of subjection to them. Both of those passages find many Bible scholars are regarded to be fulfillment of the prophecy in Genesis 9, Noah faith regarding king. But no, I didn't say one word about man. And a lot of people misunderstand that. Dr. Collier, these tights, all smart suspect in the right. I'm not familiar with those. I don't purport to be a scholar of his famous the option. We didn't study at the year. He speaks all over the world. As a matter of fact, on the Sunday begging incompetence here. I'm simply saying I'm not prepared in England those things to OH - a minor. In fact, the whole first particle is presentation - even he's here maybe 63 years over my ears aren't that good anymore. But until they put the microphone up here, I couldn't deal with humans. He certainly had no faith in God, kind of a religious perspective. So I don't see what Freud and so the secular writers that he referred to have anything to do with anything I said. That he doesn't quote a lot of what he calls a various viewpoints about my croissants and blacks Jesus in in various parts of the world and all sorts of ancient inscriptions. I'm not prepared to deal with those things. I'm not an archaeologist. I any formal training in these fields. I searched in spent any times as we keep trying to hold up on things like that. The first place, I didn't know those other things. I would have to encounter within any of this. I'd say this, there are there just as many scholars that have more scholars who take hostages and some of the things he quoted from the stars that he has then he depends upon those of matters that probably in human beings have been debating the through the centuries. I don't know that anyone has has an attendance among those. I would clearly like to see somebody who might Turner prepared than I in steel. Did Dr. Phil is prepared to take him on? I don't know who they are. Look, I'm a simple lawyer, practicing law and faith in the Lord. And I'm here because I did not have any fear of coming here. But what I'm saying is, I don't have the primary Jesus with that kind of information level off the top of my head. But our friends, many scholars be showing you this depth for him in the Hebrew word 3008 has Josephus faculty, is the Jewish historians of great knowledge in first century in the immediate in the comment clinic. Whether he said what doctors call it says he said, I don't know. I have a secret my home, but I have it. You know, I'm not on that point. I would have to go back to sleep. I just don't know. I will not stoop to the indignity of referring to Dr. Collins by anything other than his name, Dr. Ho. Is I'm not going to call him something comparable to him to refer to me as that lying lawyer, that lying Ernie, or that pale face practice, that kind of rhetoric to gain your applause and has been rocking and rolling with him. That's all right. I came here in good faith, believing we're going to have a dialogue on the simple issue of what he's a black African of black African origin, or was he not dealt with from the Bible? I tried to do that. I present it to you. I'm gonna let the Lord use it as he sees fit. And I'm gonna let the motorway. I just love attorney Brian said that he is not alive. That he did not deliberately say any of these.

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Every 23 hours and it makes its way around the sun. Every 365 and a quarter days, the planet Earth is two-thirds water and 1/3 length. And the honor teach us that a blast took place in a specific. But not flood could have taken place since the first is two-thirds water and one-third land. Not flood could have taken place that covered the entire coast. Where the rain come from? Rains is not.

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It comes back in some way that I like the rain that come from the clouds that come from. And the physic law. He doesn't want to think this all welcome. Why is it not that the two-thirds one-third where they come? The wound and the sun. Check the food in particular. Check the water without just watch her play. And the walk as well. The rain came home to one of the flowers already on the earth when it comes and wanna go. And their different accounts of this known story. One person led to two of every kind. Another versions changes at back. No, and this tale has. So we don't get mixed up with the sons of Ham, Jim, and Japan. You want me to believe that one comment, one daddy had three sons? Of these three sons represent all these different races of people? Now, there's some truth to that. But we are not black man, black woman. You are the original man and woman. You were here before North Valley, before help, before. So you don't come from one of Noah. But you are not through the line of Hams or Kanan. You are Hammond's Kailyn and Jo Beth and Jim. No, you're the father's mother. All right. You new album called death certificate. One side cause the first pattern. Another's back. All the deaths time. I closed out the death side and open up on the first side. And on the first man, they have no beginning, no end. They are before hoping. They can't fight is no perspective right there. They woman. But anthropology discover these leakiest Margaret Mead and others. They let it leak out. They found the remains of a black man or woman that represents 1 million 750,000 years of existence on our planet. And found out that even death head over 3 million years in existence. They can't find your pants are snore. Don't get hung up in the hell things you've been taught. Abraham. Don't get hung up in an ass. It's my own thing. All I can say about the black man and the black woman is anyone anything else. The Cambridge encyclopedia of England, where that there is really goes beyond death. That he was a Negro. Not only that, there's a full court in the Museum of India. Or once the corn is a black Jesus with nappy hair. And on the other side of the court is the river Justin. Justinian suspect with great hair. And the products might be featured on the hospice defense. And it is for about five papers, magazines. I mean, Cambridge encyclopedia that this is another form of proof that Jesus has to be a blessing. See the white power. These are scholars are from among his own people. He said here that he follows the King James Version. I just read the you whether white sea of origins and dollars and found out that even among the original manuscripts that the original manuscript all three. They found in one of the books of the Bible. And I said that Mary would give birth to a son. And his name would be called Emmanuel. But the early translations of this and the very person say that a spare fuse would give birth. And his name would be called in this. They went back to the manuscript brothers and sisters. And they found out that it never fell of her would have babies. And so then they pulled back. And now it says, "And a young woman gave birth to a child, and his name would be called." He's been doing. I want to show you something else. But I don't know if that line or you the dumb devil. You know, lay down.

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The 16 steps of mom talk about Jesus' ascension to heaven. They went back to the original manuscript. And there was no mention of Jesus ascending to heaven. So now the new Bibles that come out give you up to pay Blake. They took out all of verses after 16 chapters. Now, and that's the eighth verse. And they need a rest. The same place. They took they take the other several verses out. And they relegated to a footnote, all commentary at the bottom of the page, letting you know that the original manuscript shows that there was never an admission of an ascension under heaven. So they think we have to change this and take it out. Putting the rest of the same Blake. And they cut it off at first eight. What happens to the other? What about a lot of people who believe that way in the beginning? What about these lies and the dozens who have made.

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Brothers and sisters, I want to be clear here. We touched on the fact that Abraham was a black thing. We have touched on the back here, proven conclusively that Abraham was a blacksmith. And Jesus a blacksmith. That marriage, as he is call today, a platform. We have touched on the fact that God and they will fire white people in Europe as the Black Guard and a blackberry Arabic Allah and of likely this is to enroll. And in the problem is a very unattractive look. We believe in Jesus the Lord say in the matter. But don't rightly know to I failed kids.

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Like it's like high stress that has been hurt in and up. And I cannot accept anything. We are not here just to take him over as Minister Harold Bahamas is and just making black the taupe. We want to make it black. We're here because history proof because there's that he would have maybe I should read it. Let me read it. Let me go to Revelation. Greville Murray, what is it? The Reverend Reverend Mourinho, what is it? Ruby much Durio is coding it straight from the scriptures. Pastor Dan Shino, Revelation one. Let me get to it. In now, I give me the second. I chose one of these bangles.

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Let's look in Revelation, the first chapter, 14th. His head and his hair were white like smooth. And his white as snow. And his eyes were as a flame of fire. And his feet like unto fine brass. And sword have been burned in a furnace. And his voice of many waters. Did you get that? Now, when we go to Daniel, Daniel 7 at night tells us that his hair was like pure. Daniel 7 is 9. And in another judgment, Daniel says it was like man, like you and me.

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In the kingdom, to put it in the paper, they say, "No, we, we don't want it." I said, "You gave your problem to put here. This is paper. They active up. They make sure gather the things he said. He didn't give him a white jersey. But they came. They were white pitchers. And so they were traitors to the masses of take these crackers over your wall. Right. And single John Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy down off in a wall. Would you take these Africa is the cradle of symbolically? Right. I've got so many spunk, so much material up here. You don't really know.

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And I was just so you know how bad Peter Murphy. You are late. Whether you have stains on the wrists and ankles or five people on their plane. This is your slave master. Weeks before the wood is but a favorite cracker. When it comes to facing somebody who knows the Word of God and who knows the history of him and whoever knowledge yourself got. And bring me a picture back on it. Was being a sob. I looked at him. I said, "This is a big joke. They're not even baby devil with - whoa. I got all these. And we got a little too busy to talk about him like this. And I'm looking in the places of some of you with your tender heart. He didn't lie. Whatever reason while he put it in there, trying to make you think that Jesus is life. So that every time you close your eyes, you go see your crackers. You wonder why we don't get out of the condition we're in because you keep seeing the image of you're obsessed at your place. Have to give this tracker stay in a half. And he looks just like attorney Brian sitting up here. Have you put one of them old-fashioned funny? Take these. So I give you a flat fee. You say, "What difference does it make whether Jesus is black or white?" It was like asking me, "What difference does it makes, brother, is wrong?" All right. You don't want just anything. You want the truth. You won't set face a lot. You want to let Jesus because the flat field is a real piece of the white man. Is not a fair.

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Hey goats, devil under the ground. There is no devil under the crown with some red telephone and a pissed-off disco stick. You and Joe cute is that the first warning man that Africa's drunk and found it out. No devil under the cloud with a risk with the Rams pantyhose. Oh, little kids.

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You bring me your devil from under the ground with his red panty hose. Oh, and I'll scream winner. Ah, white devils plus half a butcher. One of the wards top of the crowd to heaven. And hell are not in the sky, under the ground. Heaven in hell of states of miles, thinks of being takes of this mysterious. Your heaven is your hell is right here. You ain't got no money, you broke hell. You ain't got no phone, you hungry hell. If one around you, you ain't got no teeth, you it's time. You ain't got no ass, you go you crazy. How cute that he'll be under the ground. The hurt that's approximately 8,000 miles in diameter. Kappa that is a thousand. The phone is 93 million miles away. Eight hundred and fifty-three thousand miles in diameter. Milton except the last hour of 785. Wow. And for comfort, then it burns at 15,072 degrees Fahrenheit. And they want us to believe on a hill weighs seven to ten times hotter than the sun. We agree that I just have for the kill exist for tau. About the way your heaven in your hair is right here. The planet Earth is spinning at 1037. Is not as well known. You get down on your knees, you think Alice here, your Sakura. That you think heaven is up there? For by the time the Earth rotates another 12 hours or more, your heaven is now rotated to hell. And your hand is now rotated to heaven. Kevin imperil of six of my six of being face of existence. In your heaven in your hair, it's right here on earth. And your death, it's right here. Jesus says, "Know ye not that you are the Temple of the Living God? That the kingdom of God is within you? That man and woman with just there's less than staying in mind that is in Christ Jesus." Be talking about the best revolutionary was 5. He says he wants eternal life because he knows that his people were only given six days of 6,000 years to whom the people of the earth. And to a person, to a beauty, and to miss you. He for eternal life. But there is no it. God, hey America today. And he intends to Primavera. They say they're waiting for Jesus. The Jews favorite seat at the table to me, the dog job during their feats of fader pain. And they're waiting for the Messiah that crates one who comes from the divine of divine to come in sit at the table. If a black man walks through the door, in step through the door, and when is took his pain, took his seat at the table of one of these so-called like so far. Because there, that's the true Q. You are fulfilling a prophecy. You are the chosen people of God. No, no people of God. If a black man took his fetus to space table, they would call that one would labor. Three is eight, nine, one, one is a joke to yoga. But if you call that one, one day coming good. It's like the God Jesus walked in the white church. If I said earlier that I'm fat and I'm black, be called nine one one. Get this.

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Here can't be Kiba. I didn't say Jesus for the.

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That Jesus is one of the original black sea. He comes from a black mother, who is the problem civilization, the queen of the planet Earth, and the god of the universe. Yep. Brothers and sisters, this is the greatest opportunity because of it. This is one of the most historic moments of all time. To find one daredevil enough to come out and evil condition. You gotta stand up. Get through with your work. Residences again. I am honored to have had this opportunity. He look over a couple of other points. He doesn't say too much. Oh, he told you - so my dad always talked about it. You mind it. But he never wants to talk about any as you made. You talks about a did you line up. Was never just an agent manager. There's 196 million 500,000 eight. But at one time, the whole everywhere to like men with me were already left to me to Mr. Preedy, Mr. Shah, are we until darkness. But we accept our prisoners, families. Look at everywhere. We had built up pyramid in Egypt. When he called Kidman's, but he called one of the wonders of the world, which means he still was how we were able to do. We give telomeres.

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And get you a little bit. That's alright. I'll be black when I come back in a minute. I'll show you the black Miriam because I want the black stone. Yo, you've got a problem with this.

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You don't have to leave the church. Church is one of the best places you can be. If the church is right, we just want you to keep your frustration right. And keep your contradiction the truth right. Because your people are people. That video people in you. Ha ha. And we are one thing. Are you opposed to a black dude in your home? White people all over your head. Are you close to a black married in your black? My whole question suit is only to you though. But give you the liberty of being old-fashioned of a warranty. I'm 63 years old. I have a right to be over. I'm just gonna call it with some verses of Scripture. If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be anathema, maranatha. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. My love be with you all in Christ Jesus. Finally, brethren, farewell. D completely be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace. And the God of love and peace shall be with you. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Teach speech to the Brethren, and love with faith from God Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ and sincerity. Imagine. That's what the scripture says. As a Christian, I love all the love. Or I don't know that the speaker on my right exhibited any love tonight. If I believe I'm gonna leave you with at one point that I tried. And God would be my judge whether I succeeded to show you that God stands for love among the people on the face of this earth. He doesn't stand for the time of the busyness that this man preach tonight. I don't consider that the face. I consider that I within a political Egyptian. And I just believe you. I'm not gonna take all of my time. I just leave you with a thought that regardless of how you feel about what the Bible declares, regardless of how you feel about the fire, some of you may not even believe that the Bible is the Word of God. I do. So my prediction is that the Bible simply shows that Jesus came down through a Jewish line. That I don't agree with Dr. Collins that the Jewish line itself is a perfectly clean. Has he flirted conclusively proven to be a black line? I think just the opposite is shown by the Father. Now, we're interested for that in my closing remarks. I too would like to go to the scripture to divide. I believe that it is survival. But I do not believe that it is the Holy Bible because I believe that it has been tampered with. And I believe that as I said earlier, and it is written in the scripture, and we would never get out of this condition unless we receive with teachers and the scriptures that sees such a teacher unless he be sent to us by God Almighty. The 13th, 14th, 15th, and God April. Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not there. And they shall forbid. And they shall afflict them. Will I judge? And they shall come up with great riches. We're the only people who've been imparted to the strange land among the strange people before her. I felt that did you fight them to commit. I've debated a white so-called Jewish rabbi. And all right, oh no, his so-called Jewish scholar and historian. They admitted that these are not things that are founded in time. But the seeds of things that have held that people together. They see we got a document. They're all wrapped in them. I killed it on Egypt seven times. And all of the library. I visited all studies. And going inside of the Great Pyramid of killing or hidden. And there is no record of any white so-called June ever having been in bondage in killing or eat you before. But let us turn to the Jews in the 8th chapter. The so-called Jews in the 8th chapter of Job, beginning with the 31st birth. And let's see what the so-called you have her face when she's talking to G. Are you with me? John, the 8th chapter, beginning with the 30th birth. And then sent Jesus to those Jews which believed on him. Who's talking? Jesus talking to who? The Jews who believed on him. Because it's you that all Jews. It causes a big noise. Is really they'll prostitute the Book of Revelations called him of the synagogue. Thank you. In says, "If they do like that, they would talk. But they are not." You turn to Revelation 3. Out of me. And none but here is the eighth chapter. John, beginning with the 31st girl. Then sent Jesus to those Jews which believed on him. If you continued my words, and you are my disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth. And the truth shall make you free. The Jews answered him, instead, we behaved for him. And we'll never talk about to any man helps a doubt that we shall be made for you. Jesus, if the son therefore shall make you free, you shall be free indeed. These would you think to kill Jews because my word in you? Jesus, that his word has no place in the Jews. I speak that which I have seen with my father. And you do that what you have seen with yup. No attorney right there. That they had to say that Jesus was the same kind of so halogen. Not affect you as we have proven that he was. But he was saying so all kinds of you as the apostasy. But here, Jesus said, "I think that what I am see no by far. And you speak what you have seen." You know that they got every death. That's all Jesus, man, under them. Yep. What did you say? Empty one. Abraham, sure to do with do the work from Abraham. But you think the kill me a man that has told you the truth, which I have heard of God? Said Abraham, what that's do to him? We be not born or on occasion. We have fun father, even God. Jesus said unto them, "If God were your father, you would love me. Probably before the Kings from God. These are came out because there's no cities. Look at you. That is only today. Is not the choo-choo. Is that the truth? Is but woman, you father - he threw. And the chosen people of God. In the juju, Jesus said they were of their father's death. He was the murderer of the beginning. He opposed that is the truth because there's no truth in him. When he speak of the line, because the result for he's a liar. Deuteronomy 18 chapter 18 verse says this. God raised up watching the midst of the people who would have been involved for 400 easy. And he would teach network. What the TCP? Malachi Transamerica. Malachi, the fourth chapter, the fifth and the sixth. Where is Malachi? The last book of the Old Testament. The fourth chapter, the last chapter of the Old Testament. The fifth and the sixth person. The last two persons of the Old Testament. The last thing that's always kept amiss is behold, you like to do the pasta goes when you fight you practice before the coming of the Great and dreadful day of the Lord. And he should turn the hearts of the fathers to the children. And the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with the good prizes. The coming of the most Elijah Muhammad. And now the folk silver and the extension of his works, the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. We did not create a white man. Oh, let's see how it would be like your Muhammad disrespect theology from being known in our lives to be under the spotlight. They would realize you were loving each and every one of us doing what we're doing today. So he has turned up from a white sheet to the right to a black. I believe the Bible has been tampered with. But I believe in the channel. And I believe that it can be a role. Forgiveness through our liberation and salvation. And I believe in Jesus as my Lord, say to master, and my repeat. But I believe that he was not years of black. The physics law says all energy of confidence just changes home. All energy toxins, it just changes home. So that means that's man, that's mind. That word of Jesus, that divides one who was here 2,000 years ago. In the inspectors coming in to come back. But he will be blessed when he comes back. And he won't look like he did 2,000 years ago. But they two months, two years old. Jesus won't look like he did 2,000, 2,000 because all images constant. Did just change in home. There will be a Transfiguration. And that's my. Let's power that thought. There was in in 2,000 years ago will return for the Bible say we see it all. I'm here to tell you that they're fast. Hey. And they're not just hope you would you think.

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You're right. The Son of God, God, maybe is the image and after the likeness of God. And just go home with me. Please have a seat. Please. Just for a second. I assure you that I will not wake up in the middle of the night. I will not awaken in the middle of the night. Vision, doctor, probably. Is there anything else? However, I want to. I just want to read. Well, I want to read two things to you. Two scriptures. The 8th chapter of John, from which he quoted extensively. In my opinion, is. And this is fruit by him. In the ninth first of that chapter, it shows clearly the Jesus times. Our 13th verse. That shows clearly the Jesus begin by talking conspiracy. The Pharisees were the unbelieving Jews. They did not accept him as the Christ. They did not accept him as the Messiah. They believed otherwise. Further down in the verses, it's about that Dr. Collins referred to. He quoted to you where Jesus, in verse 31, says, "Then said Jesus to those who believed on him, If you continue in my word, then you are my disciple." Jesus mentioned these things to the believing Jews. In those two verses, but they resumed what he said to the unbelieving Jews, the Pharisees, and all that self of us. You don't believe in me. And if you believed in me, you believe in my father. And all of this is Thomas theory about the devil being the father. All live. And they having the devil as their father. Where Jesus own comments to the unbelieving Jews. No believing Jews were castigated by Jesus in that fashion. And in other, in the third, in the fourth chapter of Galatians, accuses the third chapter. The scripture concludes this way: "For you are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There's neither Jew nor Greek. There is neither bond nor free. There is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you be pride, then you're Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise." No disease increases because they know to be black. And no white man really believes in God. The only God they believe in is the white face. And if he ain't white, they don't want no God at all. And they don't work. Though Jesus at all. That's what he is. Thoughts are like to convince you that he was white. If he's white, he was accepted. I want to ask him, since he asked for extra time, if you could find to be attorney Brian, if you could find that Jesus were black men. And you could prove that to yourself. If you could, hypothetical. Would you accept him as your face? Is that right?

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Lady Litton colonialization and dropping bombs, atomic bombs, and all of that. And killing the black, brown, red, and yellow faces of the earth. And destroy and much of has been done. And pillaging. You would not in innocence in saying that your people have acted as you.

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