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[Music] welcome ladies and gentlemen to another episode of the Apollo show. I'm your host Apollo, and I'm here with the beautiful He Marie. How you doing?
I'm doing great. How about you?
I'm so good. Now, we just did a great scene. We did. It was a really great scene. Yeah. And we specifically filmed it for PornHub, so you're going to get a good chunk of that everyone. You're going to see it. Yes, yes. Because I like to say it's community service. That's right. Doing something good for the rest of you. Giving something back. You know, giving something back.
So, how long have you been in the industry for?
Seven years. Seven years? Yeah. You're an OG. Almost. Were you before you were before OnlyFans? Right. So, when I first started the industry, I think I started late 2016, and in 2017, I think OnlyFans came onto the scene. So, like, right at the very beginning, honestly. Yeah. Perfect. That's like, that was the, the time to be doing it when everything was exploding.
Yeah, it really was. It's interesting. I like how I've seen the site evolve because I was on OnlyFans actually when there was not a whole lot going on. The very, very beginning? Really? Mhm. I just assumed as soon as it started, it was just flooded. It started gaining traction for sure, but I would say OnlyFans really took off like 2018, and then the pandemic as well. That was kind of, I guess, what most people would regard as like the golden age of OnlyFans. Yes. Where people had the money to burn, were home, locked, and just wanted to spend it jerking off. Yeah. And God bless you. Yeah. God bless. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Unreal.
Okay, so would you say that you, because you do a lot of pro, now, how much pro would you do compared to OnlyFans collabs in a month at the moment? And has that changed since you first started on Fans?
Yeah, absolutely. I would say right now, I would probably do way more pro scenes than, than OnlyFans scenes as far as the number goes. Maybe I'll have, if I have 10 scenes in a month, probably two or three would be, um, collabs these days. Yeah. And that's just me, honestly, been kind of lazy because when you show up to set, that's all I have to do. I have to show up, people do my makeup, they take the pictures, they do the camera, and I'm good to go. I just need to be there.
With creating your own content, you, there's a lot more you have to do. Basically everything. All of that. It's basically doing the production of the whole thing. You are the crew, you are the editor, you are the videographer, you're the script writer. It's a vibe. I like it because you get creative control and you can do whatever, like, whatever you feel is the vibe on the day or whatever you want to do. I do like it. And I think I like, like it, but in more of the, the camming sense. That's how I got started. Um, the industry was actually started on ChatterBait, and I've been on ChatterBait ever since. And I like camming a lot more. If I'm not shooting or trying to set up collabs, I will most likely be on ChatterBait.
Because, do you have like a, like a loyal and big spending following on there?
Yeah, they're pretty, they treat me pretty good. I can't lie. Good ChatterBait crowd when you're on your side, they're good. Mhm. Yeah.
So, how long do you normally cam for in one sitting? And how often a week are you doing that?
Well, these days, I try not to go longer than four hours per session. And I probably, if I'm lucky, I make it on twice a week. Okay. These days, it's because I'm shooting so much mainstream now. But back then, when I was like, camming extraordinaire, yep, I was online for sometimes up to eight hours at a time, almost every single day.
Does a cam show look like for you? Is it mostly getting to know your fans, chatting, and a little bit of like solo stuff at the end? Or are you just basically naked from the get-go? Or do you have like a goal list?
It's kind of that slow build where it's like going on, greeting everyone, hanging out, shooting the [ __ ] and then eventually start setting up the goals and get into sexier things. It's a really huge range. And what I love about camming is every single, single day is different. There are some days where people just take me privates, like I'm just doing in, uh, privates all day. And we're acting out all these different scenarios in a day. Very fetish heavy. Some days where people just want to listen to me talk about something that might be on my mind. Some days where I work my literal off. Yeah. You know, of course, every day is different. Uh, yeah. Unreal.
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You were saying that you are, you are pigeonholed at the moment in doing into doing a lot of like anal, your thing, like that's your vibe on your solo shows. Do you do a lot of, do you do a lot of anal play, or is that mostly like pretty straight up, let [ __ ] play?
No, I do both. I do both. I've done double penetration on cam too. So, yeah, pretty much. I try to use every single hole I got. Like, you know, spoiling the [ __ ] boys.
That's good. That's good. All right. So, when you're doing mainstream, do you have, have you done much traveling for mainstream?
Yeah, it's actually taken me quite a few places. Yeah. Where have you gone? I would say the most interesting one was Japan. So that amazing. Japan. I've been to, um, Canada and all around the United States, like various places. That's more with feature dancing has kind of taken me.
Feature dancing? What's that like for stripping?
Mhm. Oh, cool. So you do a lot of pole dancing? I don't do pole dancing. I put on like a little burlesque routine. Um, because feature dancing is when a club hires you to dance for a certain amount of shows a night or a week. And you're not getting naked, or you are getting naked during that? Depends on the club. Okay. So, okay. I only just learned about this the other day because I interviewed another girl who was a feature dancer, but she wasn't a stripper. Like, she didn't take her clothes off. She was just at a strip club. Interesting. Dancing on, like, whatever you like. The platforms over. I've gotten completely naked and I've like fingered myself on stage before. But you, you have to go by the rules of the club. I think out here in Las Vegas, they're pretty strict, and it's mostly topless only. But there was a club that I danced at in Sacramento where if I wanted to, they said I could have squirted on the stage. I didn't get that crazy, but I had the option. They just like, go for it.
Don't you love that? Yeah. Unreal.
So, does your OnlyFans, is your OnlyFans PPV or PV3? How do you run your, your site?
If I'm being completely honest right now, I don't really do that much on OnlyFans. I'm still kind of trying to figure out what I want to do with my page. It's like in limbo right now. If someone wants to join, it's $10 a month, and you can check out the stuff that's there for now. There's no guarantee I'm going to reply right away because I'm just really busy right now.
Yeah, totally. It's so hard, isn't it? To do like a lot of draining in-person work, like mainstream, 8 hours a day, 6 hours a day, 10 hours a day sometimes, and then also try and be uploading, scheduling, writing captions. It's constant hustle for sure.
Constant hustle. So, you'd say, would you say that camming is your main source of promotion for both, like for you, your OnlyFans, for everything? And you don't really do a lot of like hardcore social media posting and stuff?
Pretty much. I would like to stay pretty active on social media, but I do like to drive a lot of my traffic to either my PornHub page because the more views I get on PornHub, the more bookings I'll probably get. And then to my ChatterBait page because if I'm not shooting, I'm probably going to be live streaming. And, you know, I think doing porn has really helped to grow my webcam audience as well. There's, you know, so many different people that say they come in, they've like seen my, they were just watching my porn, and now they're seeing me live, and they think it's so surreal.
That's true. So, yeah. Well, that's great. And so, once you see you're doing a lot of mainstream, do you get like on the PornHub front page a lot?
Every now and again. When that happens, do you see like a massive flood to your streams, sort of? Yeah, I would say there's definitely an uptick. Actually, this year, a scene that I did with Melissa Stratton was on the PornHub front page for a couple of weeks, and it's my second most viewed scene ever. It got like 20 million views.
Wow. Was it just a go-go? It was a boy, girl, girl. Okay. It was a very hot scene, and Shawn's very hot. Yeah. It was great. It was a great day. And that one, yeah, that one was on the homepage for a long time. Unreal. Definitely. They got a lot of people coming from that. Yeah. That's the goal. Like, PornHub is really like just another social media that can really work in your favor if you're putting good stuff on there and or getting featured by the big companies that have a big following already. It's like anything. If you work with someone with a company with 20 million followers on on a social media, and you get posted by them, [ __ ]'s going to happen. You're going to get some good, good traffic.
Yeah. I always ask the girls and the boys what their dating life looks like while they're in the industry because it either is is a raging disaster, or they are with who are they? You know, single, dating, failing, dating, failing, or they're in a long-term, very happy thing, or in some sort of open arrangement. Like, what's the, what's the go with you?
Yeah, so I am dating. Well, I'm engaged to another performer. His name is Kyle Mason. Amazing. And we've been dating for about six years. We've been engaged for a few months. And ultimately, what we both want is to make as much money as possible and to enjoy ourselves while we're doing it. I think that's the truth.
And you're in the perfect business to do that. And you're also in the perfect location. Like, you're, you're here in Vegas, but Vegas is just a short, short drive or even shorter flight to LA, and that's where most the work is. Do you do most of your work in LA, or do you do a lot of work here in Vegas?
It's 50/50, honestly. There's a pretty even split. Yeah. Is there a lot of companies here? What companies work out of Vegas? Quite a few. Brazzers is a big one that works out of here. There's Brazzers, there's Kink, Naughty America shoots out here. The VR sites that, uh, Tristan, the director, he shoots Swallow Bay and you, all those VR bangers. Yeah, lots of, there's quite a few VR sites out here. VR Hush. Yeah. I've worked for almost every Vegas-based company out here at least once. It always makes sense to me whenever I talk to girls about like why they live here. It's like, obvious. There's so many, so much money to be made out here. If you live, if you are right in the middle, if you're like a hard worker and you want the work and you're a good operator, you could be doing mainstream every week. Good collabs every week that are like going to be really valuable to you and seeing a lot of growth very quickly. I think my, the girl I'm staying with, Stella Sedona, she's a [ __ ] legend. And she was saying that she used to do this from Michigan. I think she said Michigan, and she would just fly out, stay in LA for a period of time, similar to what I'm doing. But similarly to me, paying rent back home still. And she was saying like her income basically doubled as soon as she moved to LA, just because you're saving on travel fees, but also able to just constantly connect with other creators who are wanting to work. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. There's a big creator pool out here too, in both places, Vegas and LA. And it's only a four-hour drive. Yep. Or one-hour flight, you know, so it's very easy.
So, good. Do you have like a, like a thing that you're, that sells the best on your page that you try and get like a lot of, like some people are like, I don't know, like you said before, anal, but like, some, some chicks love BBC. Like, what's the, what's the big seller on your page?
Yeah, I would say anal is probably the number one. Once people know that you're nasty and you do anal, that's what they want. I would say the second thing is the BBC stuff, which I understand. But after a while, and I talk about this on my cam show like all the time, the supposedly straight man is just so obsessed with [ __ ]. Like, you guys just love talking about dicks. They love big dicks. They love big dicks. They love big black dicks. They love all the dicks. You guys want to know what I think about dicks. Do I like your dick? Like, they, you guys just love [ __ ] so much more than me. Have you ever, have you ever seen, uh, um, Superbad, the movie? Yeah. That's what it is. You know, he's like, you ever seen a, you ever seen a vagina on its own? No, you got to have a dick in there. It's so, I don't know. I think it just completes the package. But like, you're particularly small for those of you who don't know. She's like, what, 5'2"? Something like that. 5'3". Very close. Close. Very close. And very small. So there is a thing where dudes like to see cheeks get [ __ ] railed by like big, big [ __ ]. It's not even just the getting railed part, though. Just want to hear me talk about [ __ ]. Which is so weird. And fine. You know, you can like [ __ ] if you want. It's just your guys' fixation is like, it's interesting. Yeah, because it's on your stream. It's not like they're going on to Dread's stream to talk to him about how big his dick is. He's like, he's like, hey, I want to use you as a medium to talk about dicks. Yeah. And they want to hear about the experience all the time because I, I have worked with Dread a couple times. And so, yeah, that's what they want to hear about. Like, what was his [ __ ] like? What did it feel like? Like, do you want to try? Like, do you want to know yourself? Probably do. Which is fine if you want to. But it's very interesting. You want to, like, I'm your proxy for that. That's right. It must feel straighter to talk about [ __ ] through a hot chick. Mhm. Hey, good strategy, fellas. Good strategy. [ __ ]. Yeah. So you, okay, you don't really use OnlyFans as vigilantly as you would like. Do you also have any other subscription sites that you maybe have, but you don't use as much that you'd like to use in the future, like Fley or ManyVids? Do you [ __ ] with any of that?
Yeah, I need to start [ __ ] with ManyVids again. I have like a big store. And back in the day, too, ManyVids, I think had like a golden era where things were just popping off in like 2017. Yeah. But also, I did recently just join Minks. So I'm still building my profile for that.
Tell the audience about that, because I didn't even know about it until recently.
Yeah, so Minks is a Sex Panther website. This is kind of like a, um, like a VIP tier of Sex Panther, which is really cool. And basically, you pay to send me messages. You can voice call me, video call me for a price. And because it's so easy to use so far, I'm like, kind of playing around with it and looking at the interface. I think it's something I might be comfortable using maybe in lieu of like my OnlyFans. We'll see.
Well, every girl I've met who uses Minks says that it is just such easy money and it's no [ __ ] around on your part about selling. Like, a lot of the annoyance that girls have, and me about sexting on OnlyFans, is that you have to sell the sexting. You have to be like, chat, chat, chat. Oh, hey, if we're going to continue this, this sexy chat, we, you know, drop a tip. Um, and then it can, you can have some weirdness. But that app is actually a sexting app. Charging message. So they have to pay. So I, if I was to message you on Minks, I would have to pay. Let's just say $10. And I can be like, hey, how are you? And then you respond to me for free. Then another $10. I'm so good. You have such a [ __ ] amazing ass. And you're like, thank you. Then another $10. So it's like, no, they already know the deal before they're getting on there. It's not like OnlyFans where they're like, I paid a subscription, I shouldn't have to pay extra or whatever it is. It's like, this is the deal. I can talk to the girl that I'm infatuated with online. Is this going to cost me these specific amounts of money? And it's all very clear. So, MH. I think it's [ __ ] great for girls who have like an OB, almost an obsessive audience, which I think Hamas can have that because they share so much of an intimate relationship with their audience in real time. That I think that's like a perfect, um, it works almost in, um, what's the word? Symbiosis, I guess, with what you're doing. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm just getting into it and it does seem like we very easy. So we love that. Mhm.
Well, that is what you want. Like, I don't know, most content creators I know, I'm no different, like to have as little barrier to entry when it comes to doing this stuff. So like, if it, if it's actually hard to do, if anything's hard to do, like ManyVids and PornHub, they kind of suck when it comes to trying to get the ID verification. And I'll just try it twice, then be like, oh, I guess I'll just not do that. You know? So if you're a company out there wanting us to do, use your app, or use your, whatever, make it really, really easy, and make it profitable, and you'll have a bunch of people talking about it. I think you're the third person I've talked to who uses Minks. Yeah. Yeah. It's very easy. I've never heard of it. Like, yeah, it's super easy. Yeah. And the verification process was, uh, was pretty straightforward. Yeah. We love that. We love that. Yes.
So, all right. Do you travel much, like, like on your personal time?
Yeah, I do. The last vacation I did was to Japan, where I, I did shoot a couple of scenes. Yeah. Was that in the Japan market? Or was that Brazzers in Japan? That was, so it's for a guy called Makoto, and he shoots all kinds of different things, but it's for the, a Japanese audience, Japanese and American, pretty much worldwide. Because he shoots all around the world, he distributes it in the US because then he doesn't have to censor the PO. That's, yeah, it's so true. So he doesn't distribute it in Japan, right?
What is the deal with the blurred genitalia? Like, I don't know, specifically what it is. Does anyone actually come to that?
Because, but no, I'm sure. No, there's some loser that comes to that. Totally. Yeah. There's some loser. Who are we kidding? Absolutely. Yeah. But I don't know the specific law about it. Must be a law because every Japanese porn I've ever seen has blurred genitalia. Yeah. And [ __ ] ruins the whole thing. But I saw a meme years ago now, probably like a year ago actually, saying that Japanese porn is desperately looking for male creators, like male porn stars. And is that a thing over there?
I really wouldn't know. All the porn stars I worked with were all Japanese. So they were, they were all dudes. Okay. So three different dudes, right? So it didn't seem to be like short of it. No. But I mean, oh, that's food. Who, oh my God. Coco. This episode brought to you by Blackwave Supplements. Go to their website, www.blckkwave.com, and get the best supplements known to man. Thank you.
Welcome in the Western world, where we put way too much like possessiveness on sex and sex with another person. Because if you think about it, it's kind of just like eating a meal. That's what sex is, sort of. Number one, it's enjoyable. Number two, you need to do it to survive. And number three, it's kind of just a passing thing that doesn't really last forever. You know, you eat a meal and you move on with your day. And it just kind of goes on like that. You don't really think too much about that meal unless it was really, really good. Maybe you want to have it again and again. But that's really how I view it. And Kyle and I, we have a lot more in common than just good sex, which I think is super important in a relationship. We do have great sex, but we also really enjoy, like, we go to school together, we have hobbies together, we hike, we ride bikes.
Do you, were you guys both in the industry when you met?
Yes, we were both already in the industry when we met. So that kind of helps to, we already have this like mutual understanding of like, how things work. Business is business. And, yeah, funny story, I actually shot my very first scene ever with him. We didn't start dating right away, but my very first porn scene ever was with my current fiance.
Wow. It's amazing. Mhm. Yeah. So he introduced you into into the industry, or was that just your first mainstream that you just got linked up with him?
That was my very first mainstream scene that, uh, yeah, we got paired together for. Love that. Mhm.
Do you have any choice over who you work with?
Yes or no? I, um, don't really have a big no list because I'm not a difficult person. I try to, you know, work with everybody and give everyone a fair chance. Yep. But, you know, there are definitely some people on my no list that just for like personal reasons. And it's usually not because they're like bad people. It's just, I think they're weird, mostly. So I don't always have a choice. Whoever's on my call sheet, I just say, um, yeah, you know, I'll do it. It's an honest day's work. It would have to be someone like really, really, like that's a hard no for me, me to like say to request a different talent. So, yeah. But it's never, I don't think it's ever happened before where I've gotten on the call sheet and said, oh my God, no. Like, I don't think that's ever happened before.
Yip. Good. Good. Makes, makes like your work life so much less awkward. Mhm.
So, what's the future look like for you? What's your current plans?
Well, me and Kyle, we are going to be getting married in April. So that's a big life change. Not too big, though. We've lived together for a long time already. It's just going to be on paper. Mhm. And from there, I'm going to school. Um, oh, what are you doing? I'm doing sociology with an emphasis in religion, just because it's something that really interests me and I like learning about the history of the world in general. I'm not sure if I'm necessarily going for any high degree. I just want to learn and use my brain right now.
Because it's, I was going to say, is there, is there a specific, like, end of the line kind of job, or not job, but like something you want to do with that degree, or is it just, I'm interested in it, I'm going to learn about it?
Mhm. Great. Pretty much that. And who knows, who knows what kind of job exists in like, so the sociology field in the next four years from now. You know, the world changes at a very rapid pace. And even the porn industry is like very precarious and weird right now. So I'm just trying to find whatever interests me at the moment.
Yeah. So you say the, the porn industry is precarious and weird right now. Like, what's changed that's made it? You mean like harder to, harder to work in, or more work to work in, or what do you mean?
Well, it's like quadrupled in size since I first got into the industry. There are many, many more people doing online sex work. Mhm. Which is good and bad. I think the bad part of it is that there was like the, the co golden age where everyone could do it and the, there was plenty of pie. Mhm. Now, there's still plenty to go around. It's just a little harder to get. And some people are kind of facing a rude awakening that it's not as, sex work is not as easy as it used to be. It's never really been easy, but it's been a lot easier to get traction, um, on socials for sure, between, but when it wasn't as saturated. But I would also say that everyone has a chance to create their own pie. So they're not necessarily worried about this famine mentality where there's not enough pie to go around. I think it's more, if you're not original enough and you're doing what everyone else does, then you're probably going to be running out of that same pie that you're trying to eat from, or, you know, that you're trying to be. But if you are, you know, your own thing with your own stuff going on, you've got a unique, a unique angle and you're the first to do it, which is hot. It's not easy to come up with like an original idea. But like, I was just, um, hanging out with Alexis Forks today, did a podcast with her. And I did her massage mistress social media. So that's her fully clothed, and she does, what's the word, like, um, educational massage videos, which are a little bit sexual. Like, she'll be like, she'll be like, this is the tricep rub, the tricep out, as she's like pressing her tits into my face, leaning over me to hit the tricep. So, and she gets hundreds of thousands of views on every single post. She does some in the millions. So, and there's no one. There was like two other people doing something similar to that, but she fully made it her own. So I mean, I don't know, like, there's no one taking that pie from her for sure. For sure. But it is hard if you're not original. There's plenty of people in the industry, and I was one of them for a long time, where I was just not being original enough, seeing what was trending and just copying other people. And that's no longer as good of a tool to to propel yourself forward at a fast enough rate to be satisfied. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. And just, as technology changes, the industry is going to change with it too, because that's how we consume. It's how we consume porn now. It's mostly we're on our phone now.
So you said you did VR, like, like we've been doing a lot of VR porn.
Yeah, I've been doing a lot of VR lately.
I've never used it, but do you think that's like the future, or do you think it's just a novelty for now?
I don't know, man. I'm just going to say this year, the number of VR scenes that I've done have outnumbered regular, like 2D. Really? Or, yeah, 2D scenes. Wow. Mhm. Not sure why, but did a lot of VR scenes this year so far.
Must be popular. Must be popular. What, um, headset did is like most popular for that? Like, what do they use for that?
I actually have no idea. But I'm going to assume the Oculus Rift is what you guys use. Gamers, can you, can you tell any gamers out there? Can you tell us? I shoot this stuff and I don't even know like what you guys used to watch it.
I heard it's incredibly tedious to, um, to film because you're not allowed to move at all, right? The man, the man, the man, sorry, the, the dude. Yeah, you can't move. If you were, you basically just have to lay there and take it. For me, how horrible. Sounds horrible. Mhm. There's a little bit you can do. Yeah, you can thrust a little bit, but for the most part, you can't move. But I hear male talent say the hardest part about shooting VR is that they can't breathe because they'll hear it in. Oh, so they just sat there like panic breathing. They have to like hold their breath for. They say that's the hardest part about VR. And some of these positions are like five minutes at a time. So [ __ ] that, you know. [ __ ] that. That's crazy. Mhm. Not being out of breath, but, you know, it's all entertainment, folks. I think, I think male performers don't get enough credit. They really don't. Male performers go through a lot of [ __ ] literally and figuratively. Oh my God, choking on my food. Sorry, fam. Male performers go through a lot of [ __ ]. I mean that literally and figuratively. Like, they, they put up with some stuff. Yeah. It's some, it's a very intimidating job for me. Doing mainstream, I've never done it. Maybe I'll do it eventually, but it just scares the [ __ ] out of me because it just seems like a lot of eyes on you, pressuring you.
What a pressure. It can be sometimes. Sometimes it definitely can be. But if you find, you know, the right crew with the right energy, you know, it can be really fun. It's like, most of the time, it's a lot of fun to shoot mainstream. It's fun to kind of like play dress up every day and do something different.
Yeah. True. True. True. True. Do you have much script that you have to learn when you're on set?
Not usually. But however, there was one scene where it was a pretty lengthy script for me, and it was like 17 pages. Wow. So that, that was like the longest one that I ever did.
Wow. Do they expect you to stick to it pretty word for word, or is it like, you can just ad-lib, but this is the premise?
Most companies will say you can kind of ad-lib. This is the premise. But for that specific, the 17-page one, they wanted me to be pretty word for word, pretty close to word for word on that. Mhm.
True. Damn. Mhm. If nothing else, like, there's he, there's obviously heaps of pressure to perform and make it look good. But if I had to learn a bunch of lines before, and you're doing like multiple, some, some girls and dudes are doing multiple scenes a week, so you're, you're learning multiple pages worth of dialogue every week for three different scenes sometimes. Mhm. Crazy. It's not as easy as to think. I thought I was. Yeah, like, in my head before, like, not like recently while I've been in the industry, but before I was in the industry, I was like, yeah, they probably just rock up, ad-lib the whole thing, smash it out. Oh, yeah. Not always. And there's extras. I didn't realize there was porn extras. Yeah, extras. I've been an extra a few times before too. Yeah. It's always, it's a lot of fun when there's like a, when there's like a fun production. Like that. Brazzers loves their extras like doing goofy stuff. So, yeah, it's porn, you know, it's goofy at the end of the day.
Meant it. I think Brazzers in particular does the real accentuated facial expressions on purpose. It's made to be like very campy. Yeah. Like I don't even know how to explain it. Just like cartoonish. Cartoonish. Yeah. Animated. Mhm. Very cartoonish.
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What did your dating life look like when you weren't with your long-term partner? I suppose that you never were trying to date while you were doing porn because you basically started dating your first porn guy, is that right?
Yeah, pretty much. So there was like a year that I was single in porn because I shot Kyle and I shot our scene, and he was dating someone else at the time. So, you know, we didn't date for about a year. He broke up with his other partner, and, uh, then, you know, we did start dating. But in that year interim, to be honest, I was enjoying being single because I was in such a shitty relationship before I got into porn, and I was loving the single life. I was tasting all the [ __ ] and just like having, having a ball. It was great. [ __ ]. Yeah, that's what we like to hear. So good for you. But I love being in a relationship with Kyle. Like, he's great. So it was very easy to settle down with him. Amazing. And you get both, best of both worlds, I guess, because you're still, we still work. Yeah. Still having great sex with with hot porn. We still have sex. We still set up content. You know, we all.
All right. What do, that's how we do it. What can men do to be better in bed?
Uh, I always say number one is to start working out because it just builds up your stamina in general, and it's going to help you in bed. And I really think men who work out a lot more, like they, they last longer in bed. True. That. And just, you look better. MH. Work out, boys. That's, that's my number one advice, to be honest.
Well, not only the endurance, absolutely. But allegedly, because you're getting your dick hard, it's all about blood flow. And if you've got great cardio, you can sustain a longer erection, a harder erection, because you have better, a better circulatory system. You can actually pump the blood in there a lot better and more consistently. So there are a few reasons why working out is fantastic for sexual performance. Yeah. I would say working out for sure will definitely be like the first step. Yes. Definitely, definitely. [ __ ]. Yeah.
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Anything else you want to go through while we're here? I'd love to know a little bit more about you. But I know what you like. What would you like to know? It's your, you were, you normally talk to other guests. But so you started in the industry. I started in the industry in 2020. Okay. 2020. But I was only really hardcore going for it, doing full sex boy, girls, all that kind of stuff from about a year in. I was doing a few sex, uh, videos with my partner at the time. But once we started collabing, that's when you started to see the mad growth. But I feel like I wasted the golden year of Co doing like, not softcore, but like being really strict with how much I give out. So like doing censored pictures and like all this stuff that people get the shits with because they're like, I want to see something. It can't just be like, everything's paid for, which I agree with now. But yeah, it was, it's good. And then did that for like, collabing in Australia for like two years after that. And you realize pretty quickly that the Australian market, although they're very beautiful women and they got everything going for them, the one thing they don't have a lot of the time is they're not full-time doing this. So a lot of the time they're like a nail tech that does this on the side or whatever.
That was my next question is, what are sex workers like in Australia?
Well, here we go. So a lot of those girls that I, I would be working with didn't, um, allow explicit promotion on Twitter, explicit promotion on Reddit, which wasn't a problem in the beginning when Instagram and TikTok were much easier to navigate. But as soon as Instagram and TikTok started to shut down thirst traps and all the, you know, showing like, just, just being sexy in general, then you realize like, man, if I can't get these safer work platforms to pop off and I can't advertise on Twitter and Reddit, then there's no point in really collabing because I'm not getting any traction from that video. No one's buying it. So it's great when now there's a lot more people who realize the value in doing explicit promotion as well as Instagram and TikTok. But I think that's because they're in the same boat I was where they're like, [ __ ] every thirst trap I do on Instagram is landing me on the shadow ban list. So once we did that two years, like things were going okay, but they're not like nothing like shot. I wasn't like making huge, huge money. And that's mostly because I think it's hard to, hard to market with people who I don't know. Like, it's hard to, when I come to America, I'm working with people with 200,000 followers, 700,000 followers, you know, every day is different.
Is there like porn production, like mainstream porn production in Australia?
No, there is. Like, there's dudes. There's nothing like, nothing like. I wouldn't say there's a lot. And the stuff that is, is not like, like no one's going on PornHub. This is the thing. I was to ask 100 people in the street, 100 men in the street to type in their favorite porn star or their favorite porn channel, even in Australia, you wouldn't get people typing in Australian porn stars or Australian creators. They'd be typing in American creators, people they see on PornHub all the time on the front page, working for Brazzers, working for Naughty America, working for whatever. So what I found was, as soon as I came here for the first time, the videos sold like really well. They got heaps of traction. That's how I started. And I feel like it's just been an evolution ever since. But I don't really know. I don't know what I'm going to do next. Maybe we go to Europe. I've been here three times now. This will be my third tour, which has been great. Australia is good, but it's, it's a much harder market as a male creator to to sell. I think. As someone who's done both, like, but that just comes down to if you're working with more well-known people, you're going to get more traction. Mhm. Same thing happens in Australia. If I work with someone who is doing like, maybe their first video with me, then you get a flood of people coming because there's demand. They're like, oh my God, she did a first video, you know. Mhm. I think it's just a different, a different market. Every, except like LA seems to be like Mecca. If you want to do porn, if you want to make money doing porn, if you want to work with other creators taking it seriously, as well as with huge followings who are down to work and promote everywhere, including PornHub. America is the [ __ ]. I know there's a lot of creators in, or porn stars in Europe, like in Budapest, but they, from what I've heard, they are mostly porn stars and they don't really do much content. Like, they're just not interested in it. Not that they couldn't, but they're just not interested. Mhm. Tell me if I'm wrong. I don't know. I don't know. Actually, I don't really know. But for sure, America is a great place to be if you want to do sex work. So, yeah, that's nice. That's nice that there's a part of the world where, you know, people aren't going to bug you too much about it. And let's hope it stays that way. But yeah, seems to be, seems to be like an attack on sex work every, every other month. It's starting to. I think they're going to make 13 states give ID to be able to get onto PornHub. Mhm. Imagine having to put your ID in to then search PornHub. So they're going to know exactly who is searching what. Imagine if that gets leaked. Like, who, like, I think if they bring in those, if they bring in those laws, sales are going to drop hard. And then the only things that are going to, the only views that are going to pop up are like illegal sites or sites that are using unethical porn. Mhm. The beauty of PornHub is that it's as ethical as you can get. But like, you try putting like a, someone up there that doesn't have an ID verified, doesn't last very long. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. I would say PornHub and OnlyFans, they're very much on their, um, on their game. Yeah. Ethical game. [ __ ]. Yeah. But yeah, no, that's, I'm like, I feel like I've gone like, the, the origin story of straight, like straight content creator. I, and I, I used to do a lot of male thirst, like a lot of like mean Speedos coming out of the pool, [ __ ] like that. It's been a real marketing degree almost since I first started because I first started doing male thirst, realized I was getting heaps of gay clientele. So then completely turned it around, started doing a lot more about the girls, lot more interviews with the girls, trying to do a little bit of thirst with the girls. But every, every thirst trap I would do with a girl in the picture as well would just get shadow banned. So it's, it's been a, I feel like I started when it was starting to get hard, and it's only gotten harder since. More strict, I should say. But I think the people who can look at that, look at the current climate, like social media climate, where Instagram, TikTok are really pushing for safe to work, safe for work, and if you refuse to do that, you get deleted. I think it's forcing a lot of us to be either smarter or go even harder on the explicit promotion, just leave those other apps behind. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah. So that's where I'm kind of at. But I feel like I'm starting with this podcast as well. Like, I've been like clipping, you know, a minute clip, get five or six of those clips out of a podcast past, and all of a sudden you've got stuff for Instagram that's actually safe for work, even though we're talking about things that aren't necessarily safe for work, they don't get, they don't get guideline violations. So that's good. Evolve or die, guys. Evolve or get deleted. That's the, yeah, that's how it goes. That's true. It's very true. Yeah.
Well, do you want to tell everyone where they can find you?
Yeah, guys, if you want to find me on X, formerly Twitter, it is @heXmarie. That's H-I-M-E-X-M-A-R-I-E. That's the same on ChatterBait. And if you want to find me on Instagram, I am @corndogorprincess.
What is the corn dog princess? Is that like, like corn dog looks like a dick?
Everyone asks about that. It's literally just my dumb Instagram account from high school because all my other ones got banned. So I was like, I, whatever. Like, all my friends are about to see me being a complete [ __ ]. But if they get mad, they weren't my friends to begin with. Exactly. But most of them cheered me on. Most of them cheered me on being a [ __ ]. So everyone loves [ __ ]. The people who don't love [ __ ], I'm, I'm more concerned. I'm judging them more than they're judging anyone else because [ __ ] are awesome. Yeah. We all love [ __ ]. [ __ ]. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Thank you so much.